MONSTER HUNTER THREAD

I've seen that fake logo before

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>>381797550
>Monster Hunter World is going to sell BIG NUMBERS, IT HAS SO MUCH HYPE!!!

WORLD A SHIT

MOVING WHILE USING ITEMS A SHIT

NON-SEGMENTED AREAS A SHIT

GREEN AND BROWN COLOR SCHEME A SHIT

GENERIC MONSTERS AND ZAMTRIOS RIP-OFF A SHIT

ANIME MOVESETS A SHIT

HOOKSHOTS A SHIT

monster hunter thread indeed

favorite weapon

favorite monster

favorite area

favorite game

go

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>>381797765
MHWorld is casual trash

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>mfw not nindrone

>>381797765
>all the nintendy videos have a thumbs up
like clockwork

>>381798291

STEALTH!!!

>>381797994
>bone
LOL

>>381797994

>XBone/Switch combo

not the best idort combo but I fucking hate the fact that people have to take purity tests just to be ALLOWED to critique MHW.

>>381798353
>Not having a 4K TV
>not watching 4k blurays
>not wanting to play RDR2
poorfag

Switchfags are quickly becoming the most cancerous community on /v/.

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>HM threads will never be good again
Thanks faggots. To all you Nintendo fanboys, what the fuck do you play video games on? There' no way a 3DS and Switch are the only consoles you own. How on earth do you not have a PC/PS4/Xbone? I would assume you're all "PC + Nintendo Master Race!!!" retards but in that case this would have no effect on you what so ever.
I own everything so I don't give a shit what is exclusive to where.

>>381798532
>Those shittastic animations
Reminder that this game has been in development for 4(FOUR) years

reminder that we've had storing items on quests since P3rd with the barrel cat

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>>381797919
>Maps are too big, bring back segmented areas
>Fast traveling for free
>Moving while healing
>Moving while eating
>Moving while gathering
>Dark Souls-esque online system that comes off as just being able to summon people whenever you want
>No paintballs, instead we get magic fireflies that track the monster for you
>No flexing
>No belly patting
>The people complaining about X being anime now love that anime is baked into the moveset
>Sound design is shit
>Music isn't very good so far
>Looks like a Monster Hunter game made by a western company
>Muh immersion meme
>More ledges than 4U and X combined
>Map looks like an ant hill that'll take forever to traverse if you aren't fast traveling
>Monsters stop paying attention to you the moment another monster shows up so they can do a canned animation against them
>Tons of environmental shit around that does damage for you so you don't have to
>Stealth looks laughably bad, literally walking in front of a monster and having them not notice you
>No cooking jingle

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>mfw World finally gives me the chance to try MH for the first time

Hopefully it's worth the hype.

>>381798414
>the huge payoff is bringing down the monsters which takes maybe 10 minutes
?

So how's XX? I've been waiting for transmog for so long.

>>381798339
Its not stealth
>>381798291
Right up till he shoots it in the face with his nut gun, the monster doesn't consider him a threat.
Using sound he lures the monster closer to an area he wants to fight in, then triggers it like that one guy who keeps posting the "Youtube Statistics" and then zips off to the area.

Fighting a large monster in a fairly enclosed space is probably really fun, but not good for demos.

>>381798604
Eh, MH3 and MH4 were in development for 4 years+ too.

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>that map
Fucking hideous.

>>381798821
They didn't look this bad where monsters literally skip animations

>>381797550
Wait I thought Worlds was supposed to be 5

>>381798485
>why are you defending it
because it is random whether or not los will be there, so wasting your fucking time to get nothing isn't a guaruntee like you retards are making it out to be, and even then the math doesn't work out that well

>150 per hit with the charged great sword
that piece of shit was doing nowhere near what things like the LS were doing. with the ls it would be 8 mediocre hits per person in a full party with shit spirit. Again likely on a mediocre LS.
>so at least 30 seconds worth of damage
and in what universe is 30 seconds worth of damage worth spending more than 30 seconds to get that damage?

>>381797765
It's a monster hunter game. It ain't gonna sell shit on any platform it is on.
Ain't going to prevent me and my friends from getting it though.

>NOOOOO, WHY ISN'T MH A REHASH ANYMORE, STOP PUTTING ACTUAL EFFORT INTO UPDATING THE GAME!

>>381798735
If you are good. The payoff is making the game click and understanding how to play it, which takes too long for most casuals

>>381798797
No, it is stealth. He covers himself with monster shit while in the bushes so that the monster can't see him. then it ends up running out but the monster still can't see him afterwords.

>>381798735
The real payoff is making 15 traps to cut off a tail 7 times in a 20 minute fight to slightly upgrade your weapon

>>381798453
Then why did you get a bone?

>>381798797
He also doesn't hit it, it missed. Watch the video again retard.

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>>381798402
It's a strange time, and honestly really fucking irritating.

>>381798867
Okay

>>381797994
Hey thate a pretty cool xbone controller.

>>381798965
>OH, I know, a strawman argument will shut them up!

>>381799084
I LIKE YOUR RED DUAL SHOCK ANON!

>>381799067
hmm? As far as I know, PS4 doesn't play 4k blurays

>>381798453
>wanting to play anything more from Jewstar and their P2W bullshit

>>381798702
Cooking jingle is in.

>>381799296
>playing R* games for their MP

>>381799286
As far as I know Xbone don't play games.

>>381799393
Kinda fucked up that GTAV didn't get any cool DLC like IV did in favor of shitty online updates.

>>381799318
SO TASTY is the only thing confirmed.

>>381798410
NUTHIN PERSONELL
kid

>>381799393
>implying it won't taint the shit out of single player in order to push more people to play online.

>>381798410
Holy fuck, I didn't even notice the clipping
AHAHAHAHAHAHA DEVELOPMENT FOR 4 YEARS

>>381799502
I'd honestly be very surprised if they kept SO TASTY but didn't keep the song

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>>381799243
Thank you. Magma red a best.

>>381798410
>mounting is still in
>it's even more of a QTE now than it was before
>it's also longer
Fuck Capcom.

>>381797959
tru all

>Blango destructor

>Garuga

>Pokke Farm

>MHFU

>>381799292
I don't get it, someone posted a webm without context, and you immediately assume they are trying to complain about it? are you projecting your secret thoughts about these webms there anon?

>>381799605
>he's never seen a Monster Hunter game before

>>381799119
Thanks, it's the Deep Blue

>>381799748
But I thought this game was only possible with the power of the PS4, not constrained by the inferior Switch hardware?

>>381798767
Its generations with g rank.

>>381798702
>segmented areas
retarded
>fast traveling for free
not in combat, and a result of the larger map
>moving while healing
the only valid criticism, yet subject to possible balance changes they could make
>moving while eating
meaningless
>moving while gathering
not all gathering, and gathering has been changed to where you have to actually find the thing you want, as opposed to nodes
>dark souls esque online
lol, it's literally just allowing people to join you mid quest, a change that is nearly objectively good
>no paintballs that track the monster for you, instead we have a mechanic that tracks the monster for you
>no flexing or belly patting
sad but whatever
>world is just as anime as x
functionally retarded
>sound design is shit
it's not, the music isn't that great, though it hasn't been since 3rd gen outside of shagaru
>looks like monster hunter by the west
as opposed to a grainy piece of shit
>muh immersion meme
not an argument
>more ledges
if it bothers you enough you can lure them to any of the superflat areas
>map looks like an anthill
because it resembles a twisting forest
>take forever to traverse if you aren't fast traveling
hence the fast traveling
>monster stop paying attention to you when another shows up
makes sense and older fans will recall not liking the fact that the monsters ignore each other
>canned animation
as opposed to doing jagged looking moves on them made for players?
>environmental shit that does damage so you don't have to
debunked repeatedly
>stealth looks bad
and optional, something is better than nothing in this regard
>no cooking jingle
and this is the icing on the cake, because you retards have literally no idea what you're talking about

>>381798402
He has a pc, look at the speccy.

>Used to be worried about stuff from the Chink developed MMO would seep into MH
>Then THIS shit happens
I didn't know how bad it could really get but ... at least we still don't have tonfas.

>>381799753
The fuck is that and why hasn't Frontier guy made a video on it yet?

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>>381799886
>debunked repeatedly
Source?

>>381799664
>even more.
Besides the added slamming your actual weapon into the monster and the monster running into that tree trap by itself. It is pretty much the same exact same as 4 and gen/x. You just see the buttons you normally press on screen because it is a demo. That shit won't be on screen and you will have to figure out the timing your self via the bar again.
>it's also longer.
Looks like other hunters can help it go faster now instead of even the slightest tap and you get bucked off.

>>381798797
why would you deal with a non dangerous bag of shiet

>>381798850
looks good to me
multiple ways to get around with the map reflecting that

What would you like to see as a new weapon from the series /v/?
Would it be enough to make you change from your current weapon?

>>381799502

>not ITAKIDIMATSU!

>>381799881
I skipped Generations but heard there were issues. DId XX fix anything?

Also I heard they nerfed CB into the ground, is that still the case?

>>381799886
>ad-homs
>MEANINGLESS
>RETARDED
>NOT AN ARGUMENT
>IT'S OPTIONAL JUST DON'T USE IT
Nice try faggot.

>>381799318

Same faggot said Styles were out.
>Aerial Style is in


LIES AND SHILLS

>>381800071

>even the slightest tap and you get bucked off.

thanks for proving you didn't play X shitposter

>>381800071
You can help the mounted players in X/XX as well. It's not like 4U

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>>381799983
Blazing zero dragon, Elzerion. It's not out yet.

>>381800126
A fast thrusting weapon. Like the lance but without a shield and focuses more on dodging
A rapier or spear kinda thing
And no, I'm too big of a greatsword fag

>>381799558
Then why are you still here?

>>381800334
Just to suffer.

>>381800126

the whip sword from the early manga. Also a Wind element.

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>>381799753
>>381800047
Wait. This shit is actually MH?
Fuck me, i am glad i didn't play after MHFU.
This is straight out of a shitty anime developed by koreans trying to be japanese

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>>381799502
>not 'WOOHOO! THIS IS PERFECT'
One job, Capcom!

>>381800049
yes

my posts in the last thread

the math doesn't work out to going out of your way for the environmental effects, and things like rathalos are never guarunteed like it was in the demo

it's going to be just like they described: "oh that vine trap thing is here let's use that"

maybe they'll even make constructed traps less available

>>381798702
Not that other dude but I'll tackle this
No they're not, the maps were too small before, now they can actually host big monsters naturally. There's more and fun ways to travel too.
Moving while etc is balanced by all the other changes I refuse to believe I STILL have to go over this.
What? It's not like Souls at all. Not everything is Souls, it's the same MH but you can join people midquest if they want, how is that bad?
Scoutflies are more involving than the old methods ever were, when can people look past their kneejerk prejudgment?
They're probably gonna be gestures
You honestly can't tell the difference between a ground move done after jumping with momentum compared to X's supers? I guess Akira and Sailor Moon are the same too. Someone please post the webm of that dual sword drill move.
We can barely hear much but it sounds fine so far, all new but par for the course and just like the series before.
HD doesn't mean western.
More verticality is a good thing.
Grapple, exploring is fun.
Not really, and it's not always grab moves.
You have to actually be in the area, know of and find them, then be able to use them at the right time and take advantage of them. Hardly doing it for you, and I bet they change per quest too.
You're confusing stealth with the monster not being hostile. They're actually sophisticated for once, stealth isn't an instant escape like zoning out if you watch the demo.
The jingle is in.

>>381798850

Man, I thought the Sphere Grid looked ugly a few consoles ago.

>>381800468
it's frontier and the direction the series was headed in before world

>>381800194
>IT'S OPTIONAL
But that's a valid complaint you fucking idiot.

>B-BUT THE HOOKSHOT IS OP CASUAL GARBAGE
Don't use it.
>BUT STEALTH...!!
Don't use it.
>WHAT ABOUT THE MOUTING!?!?
Don't use it.
>THE MONSTERS DO WAY MORE DAMAGE TO EACHOTHER
Don't use them.
>RECOVERY ITEMS WHILE MOVIE IS DUMB
Don't move while healing then

>>381800194
you're welcome to explain why any of those aren't fitting you mentally ill autist

>>381799753

>Gill from 3rd Strike procreated with a Stygian Zinogre

Fucking hell mate.

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>>381800468
Yes it's MH

>>381800653
>World has anime moves in the weapon moveset
Also, not an argument

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>>381797550
No Marm
No Buy

>>381799886
>makes sense and older fans will recall not liking the fact that the monsters ignore each other
Be fighting a Rathalos
Steve shows up
Steve is a predator of Rathalos
Steve and Rathalos proceed to team up like Blood Angels and Nekrons and wreck the fuck out of everything

I'd love to see some actual prolonged fights between monsters.

>>381800628
>Man, I thought the Sphere Grid looked ugly
Opinion discarded

>>381800126
>>381800285
something like this or another greatsword esque weapon that it simplistic

they probably won't ever do stabbing though

>>381800892
Why is she so charming? Literally what got me into MH.

>>381800709
>JUST DON'T USE IT ANON IT'S OPTIONAL
Shittiest argument ever. When the game is built around all this optional shit it's not really that optional anymore. Go tell someone to play Batman or Witcher without Detective vision. Go tell someone to play Pokemon without using any kind of restorative items or go tell someone to play Ape Escape and never touch any of the gadgets.

>>381800872
>has anime moves
>they don't blind the screen and are limited
>severe i frames notably absent
>also not an argument
it was never intended to be an argument, autist

>>381800164
Main complaints with generations I've seen were lack of g rank and people not liking the hunter arts. I still enjoyed it.
CB did get nerfed a bit, they lowered its motion values and changed its move set a little so it takes a little more thought and timing to get your swings in, but I haven't been too bothered by it so its still my main weapon unless I wanna be super cuhrazee, then I go insect glaive with aerial style.
Also, XX adds G rank, a couple new hunter arts, palicos can now jump off monsters, some diablos variants were added, and a new monster. Some other stuff too that I don't remember off the top of my head.

>>381799886
>no paintballs that track the monster for you, instead we have a mechanic that tracks the monster for you.
The Bugs are a low tier Psycho serum.
They don't know where the monster you are going to fight is at the start of the quest. You have to let them find tracks and markings the monster made before the bugs can find it. And you can find tracks of multiple monsters on the same map.
>world is just as anime as x
Monster hunter has been anime since it's conception. You are fighting fuck huge anime monster dinosaurs with fuck huge Swords and hammers and shit. Get off your high horse.
>sound design is shit
You watched a maximum of 35 mins of clear footage from a game you ain't getting for at least 8 months. You don't know it's fucking sound design.
>no cooking jingle
Confirmed to be in. Just not shown at E3.

He is desperate to hate this for whatever reason.

The only criticism I have for this thing is the Stealth shown in >>381798291 is kind of busted in your favor. The hunter is standing right next to the monsters face on multiple occasions and then straight up stands in front of it with out the monster reacting at all.
Doesn't even have the ghillie suit.
and seeing as that monster is like 40% nose you think he would smell him.

>>381801147
>They don't blind the screen
You're right. The damage numbers, red jelly screen and particle effects from EPIC ENVIRONMENT INTERACTIONS blind the screen

>>381801082
>Go tell someone to play Pokemon without using any kind of restorative items
That's entirely doable, though.

>>381801082
>shittiest argument ever
no, it's only shitty when applied to your point of a game being built around it

pretty sure monster hunter is built around stealth

>>381800627

>you can join people midquest if they want, how is that bad?

shitters can now be carried to endgame

>>381801236
I think the monster is simply passive, it only seems to attack when it's provoked. It's not that it doesn't detect the hunter, it just doesn't care.

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>>381801428
>pretty sure monster hunter is built around stealth

>>381801272
>le moving the goalposts
so you concede your retarded "it's 1:1 anime" argument and will never repeat it then?

haha of course not

>>381800263
I just soloed the story on generations since none of my friends wanted to touch it for whatever reason.
I did notice such little changes such as that due to nobody to play with but randos.

>>381800709

>LOL DON'T USE IT XD

ignoring shit in the room doesn't negate the fact that it still stinks.

>>381801503
Nice damage control. The great jagra also avoided the monster. Was it also passive?

>>381801432
Not any more than they already have been.

>>381801503
So if that's the case then why did they bother activating stealth shit before running up to it? It's clearly aggressive, if it wasn't they wouldn't have bothered with the stealth.

>>381801518
type, meant to say isn't

>>381801432
yes, as opposed to now when they can't

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>>381801432
>now
I take it you never played any of the games online?

>>381801432

My concerns are twofold. This is one of them:

>Shitters dropping in on your ELITE HUNT and carting and making you fail as a result.

The other is basically They 'casualize' this so much that they enable bonafide 100%
trading. GOODBYE DIFFICULTY, HELLO HACKERS

>>381801536
Nope, it's still has anime moves just like X/XX and there are even more obnoxious particle effects

>>381800709
>using the exact same argument that people used to defend how shitty X/XX were
Really gets the noggin joggin'.

>>381801672

>trading rubies

if they enable this in the game I'm trashing the franchise forever

>>381801672
>shitters dropping in
don't use the flare

>>381801675
I'm a different guy. I just wanna play monster hunter, but have we seen the movesets for weapons besides greatsword?

>>381800627
>Moving while etc is balanced by all the other changes I refuse to believe I STILL have to go over this.

because it's still relevant. Ignoring the fact that we have seen literally nothing to suggest they had to make this change, if more content does necessitate the change in healing, then they shouldn't have made that content in a way that causes such a fundamental change to combat in the first place.

>>381801564

>LOL I DIDN'T PLAY WITH OTHERS IN GEN/X (even though i did in 4U)

goalpost.jpg

>>381801954
yes. We've seen the Bow, The Lance, The Longsword, and the Hammer.

>>381801672
people cannot drop in unless you enable drop in during your quest.
If you want to party up with buddies you can do that before you start the quest.

>>381801675
>it still has anime moves just like x/xx
the arts aren't even remotely comparable to the new moves

>even more particle effects
lol, people actually believe this

*dual sword drills through you*

>>381801954
yes, they all have flashy moves where they jump high in the air and HBG can also move while shotting

>>381801672
You realize you have to activate the flare for people to drop in, right? If you don't want people dropping in, don't use it.

>>381801837

I'll always have the marm and 4U if I ever really get that hunting itch.

They fuck up that bad, I'm back on the Caravan for another 200-500 hours.

>>381797550

who is ready to quit defending Worlds if it gets a Season Pass with no G Rank/endgame difficulty extender

>>381800627
>Moving while etc is balanced by all the other changes I refuse to believe I STILL have to go over this.
So how are they balanced?

>>381802106
Yep, they are pretty much same thing and we've seen the particle effects firsthand
Also, not an argument

>>381801962
>fundamental to combat
it's not

>>381802153
If it gets any pre-order tier DLC I'm dropping it like a rock.

>>381800653
Holy shit, i guess there goes MHW for me. if it is this weird shit it can fuck right off

>>381802047
>>381802108
I'm assuming it was from a stream? I don't see a video on youtube analyzing the weapons.

>>381802213
>hyperbole
not an argument

>>381802308
Yes.

>>381801968
I did in 4 because my friends had it.
I made the mistake of playing with randoms in 4 and that made sure I never did in gen when I had nobody to play with.
never moved no goal posts. Just assumed it was the same since I never personally experienced it and don't frequent Mohan threads.

>>381800627
They confirmed gesture actions.
Would consider dropping if it has no Stomp and or Prance gestures.

>>381802271
>"before world"

>>381802356
>can't refute facts so has to resort to using buzzwords
Still looking for those scans in /mhg/?
>>381802308
Yeah, just watch the stream

>>381802110

>doing an urgent
>activate flare for randos
>leechers everywhere
>I'LL HELP IF YOU DO MINE NEXT
>they're all in shit starting gear or mismatched armor with no skills

at least in earlier games you can judge their merit before they join the quest.

>>381802469
There's still lobbies, anon. The flare is literally there just for shitters who realize they need back-up in the middle of a hunt.

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>>381801010
She just seems genuinely happy with her job and role + shes fairly well written

>>381799850
He literally stabs the sword into the monsters back on purpose you dumb fuck.

>>381802153
Depends on how DLC's are managed.
They'll have to really fucking try to make it more jewy than G-version maximum turbojewery though

>>381802153
Watch them create potion and tool kits for beginners with varying price ranges. Then remind yourself all this shit has been free for the past 10 years.

>>381802469
Lobbies and stuff are still in as usual
This is just an emergency drop in thing

>>381802457
hyperbole isn't a buzzword and describes exactly how you're talking
>pretty much the same thing
the only things that are "pretty much the same" are the muted things like the LS attack

none of the i frames abuse or cuhrazy shit is in, the worst offender is the hammer attack and that's barely worse than the spin it has

so yea, hyperbole

>looking for scans
what?

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Okay fagets, enough of your faggotry, let's play some Monster Hunters. I got 3U, 4U and Gen ready to play. One of you set up a room so we can hunt instead of just shitposting.

>>381802901

>They'll have to really fucking try to make it more jewy than G-version maximum turbojewery though
>remember Street Fighter V

we're fucked aren't we?

>>381802914
Free here in the west, Aren't those things sold with magazines in Japan (as is the case with the Neptunia games for example)

>buy a switch because it's everything I would have wanted in a MH console
>Capcom isn't bringing MHXX here
After MML3 I should have known better.

>>381803163
I fucking wish it was like street fighter 5. I'd have no problem unlocking everything with playtime

>>381802454
ye, but if they don't change direction and bring shit like this bad

>>381798145
Oh my god, they're so fucking obvious. This shit is hilarious

Alright, I'm putting this hurr anime bullshit to rest. Yes, Monster Hunter has always been anime to an extent, like just about fuckin everything else that's came out of the literal home of anime. Funny how that works.

HOWEVER, the series' design philosophy has always focused on a more practical style. Larger-than-life weapons and acts always have some functional visual basis in how they work. The most obvious example is the iconic greatsword being literally a reshaped wyvern skull and the hunter showing the sheer weight of the thing in each animation. Other examples are how the bowgun and even the switch axe has mechanical designs. Even the damn crafting reflects this.

Essentially what I'm saying is that there has to be some visual justification for how the acts or creature are possible, even if it takes a little stretch, they've always had that grounded element. So when someone uses the momentum from a sliding ledge and the heft of a hammer to spin and strike, the connection is made. Or using a long blade stuck in a monster as leverage to get some height and bring it down. But leaping from solid ground into a dramatic flying rapid slice? There's no connection with anything previous, which makes it stick out like a sore thumb.
This shit should be obvious that has any understanding of theming or has just been playing the games.

>>381801635
I don't follow the MH series so I don't know if that monster made an appearance before, but is it maybe bad in dark places? It seems the only place he was running around is the cave.

>>381803227

Tri had paid servers and japan had various promotions evetywhere in a lot of games. Star Knight Armor in 4G/X for example was only able to be received by going to Universal Studios Japan and downloading it at a spotpass.

>>381803518
It's a new monster.

>>381803489
>with any understanding of themeing
these are people that counter arguments of art, coherency, and themeing with
>MUH IMMERSION
they have autism and I'm not joking

>>381802238
>healing immobilizes you as to discourage just chugging potions right in front of a monster without timing it well and knowing your openings
>time it poorly, you get punished
>now you can almost run while doing it or straight up dodge out of the animation
>this is somehow not a fundamental change

>>381803518
>maybe it's bad in dark places
So then it wouldn't be able to see anyway since they're in a slightly lit cave? So then why would they need stealth if it couldn't see anyway? If you watched the stream you can clearly see them fighting in another cave and the monster see's just fine. you can stop arguing now.

>>381803518
Its a new monster to the series.
It seemed to be relaxing in the tunnels before going out to hunt.
I assume in non super scripted missions it would wake up and hunt before going back to the tunnels or its nest to sleep.

>>381798709
>Chance
>MH has been on PSP, PS2, PS3, Wii, WiiU, 3DS and PC for forever

Are you an xbox only person? you've had "Chances" to jump on forever.

>>381802776
I mean Najanath clipping into the ground you imbecile. Did yo uwatch the webm?

>>381800160
That's wrong you retard. If you're gonna be a fucking weeb at least learn the words

>>381803873
I don't know dude I just asked, I literally just said I'm not familiar with the series, why are you so fucking pissy about this? Holy shit man calm down.

>>381803650

>Star Knight
>remember how assblasted Gaijinhunter was when people were hacking 4U because you literally couldn't certain fight monsters in G Rank because they were gated DLC

Gold Rath being Quest Event Exclusive in G Rank was fucking stupid and everyone knew it.

>>381801962
Gaining open areas (something the series has been crying out for since the first game) and all the interesting mechanics it provides is more than worth a change to other mechanics that is done to retain the game's original pace. You're basically arguing things should never change because it lets other things change while citing an easy mode version of a tutorial where we can still see that if anything it doesn't take away the threat due to the heal being slow and fully cancelled by damage.

>>381804081
So then if you don't know anything about the series why are you even trying to argue in defense of something you have no knowledge of?

>>381803775
yea, it's a fundamental change to healing, not combat

don't get me wrong, I hope they have more to mitigate how it's easier, but it's not a fundamental part of the game

>>381804081
Its a reasonable question really.
One of the main stays of the series, the Khezu, is actually blind and detects you only through smell and sound.
If it makes a return to world that will probably change up how its AI works by quite alot.

>>381799886
This

>>381804268
>Its a reasonable question really.
No it isn't The monster has eyes and we've see it in action. It can see just fine and it isn't blind.

>>381803775
You still have to sheathe to do it, and the healing isn't instantaneous anymore. So no more chugging a max potion from a sliver of health and then tanking a tail swipe.

>>381804173
I wasn't arguing about anything you self-absorbed prick, I was asking a fucking question, you know, with a question mark, because I wanted to know about the monster, you know ,the one being discussed. What the fuck is your problem? If you hate the game then fuck off and do something else, the rest of us are allowed to ask questions about it. Excuse me for not being a fucking knowitall lifeless fucking virgin that jacks off to monster hunter.

Fuck, what a prick.

>>381804048
>game is 8 months away from being released
Keep hating the game nintenfag

>>381803775
>Monsters are faster and more aggressive which negates being able to drink/eat something quickly.

Case closed.

>>381802171
Egg carrying speeds, the heal is slow and over the full animation, it gets cancelled on taking damage, there's no zones and monsters aggressively pursue and move between attacks more fluidly. Can someone just cap this or something?

>>381798546
They will be good, the Nintendies won't be butthurt forever.

>>381804241
healing is part of combat you word twisting fuck, stop playing semantics

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>>381804367
>No it isn't The monster has eyes

>Things with bad eyesight don't have eyes.

>>381804458
We've seem the streams moron, they're not.

>>381804468
>move between attacks more fluidly.
It's dont

>>381804414
You were 100% arguing that there was no stealth and that the monster is just blind or non-aggressive or something despite the stream 100% proving otherwise.

>that anger
And you tell Me to talk down? you're the one getting pissy here. Go take a nap kiddo.

>>381803775
>we want the Dark Souls audience

Roll
Roll
Wahoo
Estus
Roll
"Stamina management"

>>381798291
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HEALTH AND STAMINA BAR

THAT'S CROSSING A LINE, CAPCOM

>>381804551
We've SEEN it track things without smell. We know it isn't blind based on the stream.

>>381799147
That's what people are whining about though. Things change, new features are added = MH WORLD WILL FUCKING BOMB

>>381798719
Ah it makes sense now, the retards complaining about MHW are retarded Trumpcbros

>>381804578
>You were 100% arguing
I think I know what I was doing better than you. Maybe you should fuck off to /x/ with your paranoid consipracy theories.

>And you tell Me to talk down?
Oh yeah, excuse me for not being a font of wisdom and understanding when some faggot keeps making up conspiracy theories about me just because I asked a fucking question.

Grow the fuck up nigger, if you don't like the game fuck off, the rest of us have a right to ask questions about it. Fucking jackass.

>>381804551
Bat's aren't blind.

>>381797765

Japanese title, mostly Japanese views. Japs don't upboat.

>>381804876
LMAO, already proven wrong

>>381804660
Not shown till they're in use.
people think this means infinite stamina while outside of combat.
You can see them in the other webms in the thread.
They're smaller than I'm used to.

>>381804682
>its not blind because we've seen it use its nose.
What? Are you seriously this retarded or are you fucking with me right now?

>>381804867
>Bat's aren't blind.
Maybe you should read that post again, I didn't say they were blind.

>>381804519
I didn't say it wasn't combat, I said it wasn't a fundamental change to combat

you fucking retard

if you honestly think healing has been difficult to anybody over a certain low threshold skill level you should fucking kill yourself

the entire point of healing before is that you would separate yourself from the combat to heal, and it wasn't hard to do so

a fundamental change to combat would be something like removing dodging or giving souls dodge frames or making the weapons not cut through shit, or something like that

changing it from:
>wait for a long monster animation then hit a button
to
>hit a button less cautiously and evade while doing so
is not a "fundamental change to combat"

>>381804834
Don't get mad at me, you're the one who made a retarded argument that gets BTFO if you just watch all the videos about the game. Hell, even the 2 minute reveal makes your argument fall apart. You don't even need to be a MH "fan" to see that stuff. You just need to not be dumb.

>tells me to calm down
>proceed to get angry and screech like a retard non-stop
Seriously, to take a nap kid.

>>381804574
Rewatch the footage and see if you can see how often Anjanath does the classic "turn in place to find my target" animation. He very smoothly goes from charging to biting to stomping when you're close and so on. He's just on the E3 tutorial so you don't see it give the player any pause.

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>>381805132
Thanks for the life story, nerd.

>>381805025
Do you not know how to read? I said we've seen it track things WITHOUT smell, not with it. Holy fuck get some reading comprehension.

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>>381804126
>G Rank Goldie

I love Goooooollllllllllld

>>381805025
>Maybe you should read that post again, I didn't say they were blind.
The entire argument was talking about blind animals then you posted something that isn't blind so it's a terrible example to use.

>>381799084
>>381799243
>>381799663
white > all

>>381805261
>>381805350
Cool story bro but "the whole argument" came from my question.

>>381803518
>but is it maybe bad in dark places?

I literally said nothing about it being blind. Or having bad eyesight, or whatever you kids wanna twist this shit into. I just wondered if the creature can't see too well in the dark places.

>>381803757
I have no idea what you're trying to say here but it disappoints me that this thread will end and people will still act like it's all one and the same and mine and any other posts made will be ignored because everything is just shouting into a void.

>>381805371
I also have white

>>381805371
>>381805517
>>381805527
>>381805537
Not an argument

I think moving while consuming items would have worked better as a skill but I'm not really upset about it
Getting hit while chugging doesn't happen incredibly often for me so at best this just lets me now reposition myself if the monster falls while I'm drinking

>>381805517
>>but is it maybe bad in dark places?
So you're a retard who doesn't understand how English works? If you say that what else would you expect people to think of other than saying the monster has poor eyesight? So if you weren't talking about its eyesight what the hell were you even talking about, and why did you not say that sooner? You really are dumb.

>>381805537
I think you misquoted your meme at me but thanks for proving my point in a roundabout way I guess.

>>381804568
>An E3 demo build is indicative of the full game

Was that your first E3?

anyone down for some XX? HR/G turns?

>>381805591
>>381805992
Shut the fuck up.

>>381806113
the game comes out in 6 months and
>2017 Capcom

Please download the MvC:I demo on PS4 to see the incredible work Capcom is going to release in September

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>>381806374
>Finish demo
>This comes up

>>381806113
IIRC they said the game is 60 or 65% done.
Its not like LOW RANK quests are inficative of the full game either.

>>381806374
Yes, but it's a different studio.

>>381806113
>It's just the DEMO
>I'm going to believe the game is things I havent' seen yet instead because I have brain damage!

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People who complain about the healing changes aren't thinking about the other additions and changes. They're trying to fit the new healing system into the old games and of course that seems OP as hell.

Please, before complaining about healing take the following things to account:
1. BALANCING. Quicker healing while moving? Could very well heal less or slower than the potions in the previous games

2. Monsters have more fluid attack patterns. Standing still while healing could simply be too hard to pull off with the new monster behavior, resulting is elongated chases where the hunters would have to find a safe place to heal. Not fun.

3. This gets said a lot, but the maps not being segmented is a huge part of this. Previously running to another area to heal, buff and sharpen was the go-to strat, but with that gone a more fluid way of healing is welcome as a way to mend that.

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>>381806113

>>381806113
>game comes out early next year
>which means maybe 3-4 months more development
>they're going to make massive changes to monster AI in this time
Remember how you were damage controlling before the leaks by saying "JUST WAIT UNTIL WE SEE GAMEPLAY"? Now you're saying to completely ignore what we've seen. You're doing a terrible job.

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>>381797765
>>381804876
Yeah, this image is a little embarrassing that someone that they were doing detective work when in reality, this is just how Japanese youtube videos are. Japs hardly like/dislike/comment, thats why you'll find comment sections and likes disabled on so many official Japanese youtube videos because if a Jap viewer does have something to say, it's often because they got so heated that they found it necessary to post an angry comment.

tl;dr this image is retarded and you should feel really stupid for posting it

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>>381806609
You missed the point entirely, didn't you

>>381806113
well we haven't seen anything to indicate a necessity to add moving to healing yet, so it most definitely isn't case closed.

>>381797550
>monster hunter world is hugely successful
>monster hunter finally takes off in the west
>normies demand all monsters have healthbars and simplified crafting instead of grinding for rare drops
enjoy the last monster hunter game boys
rip monster hunter 2018

>>381806964
see
>>381806557

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>>381806557
N-NANI!?

>>381806710
The entire image is about the English trailer, you complete fucking moron. Japan has their own separate trailer.

>>381797994
you own an bone your opinion is irrelevant

>>381797959
>ZAMTRIOS RIP-OFF
I didn't see any of the monsters inflating.

>>381807074
Yes it's gradual and slower than healing in all the other games but it's still fast and being able to move around while doing it makes avoiding monsters while doing the heal even easier. Timing isn't really necessary anymore. Just pop the fucking potion then move around so the monster can't hit anything. It's slower than instant heal but it's still fast.

>monsters have more fluid attack patterns
We've seen nothing to show that this is the case even based off of the streams.

>>381807125
?

>>381806557
>zoning out was the go-to strategy to heal
Every single retard who somehow believes this either hasn't ever played a single game in the series, or is complete fucking shit and never got beyond low rank. Tell your employer to give you different arguments.

>>381797550
getting really sick of criticisms of World being deflected as 'salty nintendo fanbabies'

the series was on Sony systems first, no-one expected the games to be exclusive to any one set of systems, the PSP was still getting the portable games even after Tri came out.

I guess what I really want to say is, the problem isn't that MHWorld is getting criticized, it's that people are trying to say that the people who have been playing the games, are for some reason less valid in their criticisms.

even if everyone criticizing it was a Nintendo fan, you saying 'they're just salty Nintendo fans' implies you haven't played any of the titles that came out on Nintendo systems, and yet you're somehow more qualified to defend a game you've yet to play than they are to criticize it for seeming so different than what any of us up to this point are used to? It's not wrong to be skeptical of a game that openly announces that it's focusing on the western market, when the series up to this point has been eastern focused, it however IS wrong to act like you can ignore any and all criticisms of the game simply because you think the person complaining doesn't have access to playing the game themself.

>>381807125
Wait what the fuck? Since when was there a fucking facebook button?

>>381807229
great jagrass has the inflation gimmick like ice frog shark

>>381807501
Do you have some footage?

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>>381806557
>facebook

>>381807496
I can only see it on that image, it's weird, and on some images there's a deviantart button near it, 4chanx is becoming sentient with it's search algorithms

>>381806113
As someone who was right about all the bad changes to the Nioh alpha from as early as the E3 demo after it, at times it can give warnings, and it's best to assume it's how it is so they actually hear it needs to be changed.
However in this case it was both the first showing of the game and a clear tutorial quest, and besides, there's plenty of other obvious signs and if you're watching closely you can tell, why bother going for this argument?
>>381806557
In regards to the first point (and what I've said like a million times already along with the other two), the heal is changed from an instant heal halfway through the animation to a slow gradual one over the entire animation, with the heal itself getting removed if you're hit during it. To be honest I can't wait for people to think they can heal in a monster's face and start carting.

>>381806557
just watch the japanese live demo man, it's Dark Souls. Roll, mega potion, roll. you don't even need to gulp the potion down health gets added instantly. probably going to let you slam 2 potions while swinging in midair.

>pro soulsborne player here where's the pvp lmao
this is our future

>>381807575
it's right there in the e3 demo/jp footage, the first thing you see is the yellow fucker eat a aptonoth whole and inflate like a balloon

>>381807393
you say this as if a common accusation in these shitty threads isn't alleging MHW defenders being new and not having played any of the games

stop acting like a victim you fucking vagina

>getting sick of criticisms being deflected as salty nintards
the majority of the criticisms are baseless and retarded anyway sprout

>>381807763
>inflate
while that's the effect we see, it's probably more intended to be like a pelican

>>381807292
>We've seen nothing to show that this is the case even based off of the streams.
Shows how much you know. The Devs have stated that this is the case, not to mention that in the gameplay trailers the monster's movements are far more 'lifelike' than any previous titles.

>>381807387
I've played G-rank extensively. Zoning out to heal, buff and sharpen is the safest way to cheese the system. I'm really glad to see it gone in World.

>>381807763
That's having an expandable stomach, but it's not actually inflating.

Damn, that sure showed him, right sonybro?

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>>381797765
>"monster hunter isn't nintendo exclusive anymore so it's shit"

>>381797550
>Implying that Vita will get anything besides anime shit

L O L

>>381807920
>devs said that the monsters are more fluid
Everything int he stream implies otherwise.

>>381808043
But MH was always shit. They've been recycling garbage since the PS2 era and no one says a thing.

>>381807393
So are you just gonna ignore all the valid and informed explanations given in the thread, as well as all those times where literal lies were being spewed about the game. I call a spade a spade and don't care about brand loyalists of either side but there are some curious patterns going on.

>>381798291
.>stealth
monster would already detect you before reaching this close

>>381806710
>>381804876
That's the english trailer you dumb ass. The jap trailer is actually legitimate based on a multitude of factors.

>>381798410
wow, mounting now takes longer, this will give me nough time to drink potion, sharp my weapon, take some pills, increase my stamina and even prepare well done steak

>>381808202
You need to pay attention to the stream. It is stealth, I just cut out the part where they activated it.

>>381798691
this is royal luddroth, right? it can't be a new monster when it has all the looks of a roal luddroth

>>381807920
>zone out every time you need to heal
>fight takes 2-3 times longer because you're wasting massive amounts of time instead of using what few brain cells you have to know your openings
>monster flies away to the other side of the map to eat and you waste even more time chasing after it
I reiterate, you're complete shit.

>>381808348
You could do all that with the previous mounting system anyway

>>381808136
Fluid animations being attacks doesn't mean the thing is a flying mess of hitboxes and the hunter should always be getting hit to show it. Look closely at it's attack choices.

>>381808587
>more fluid attacks doesn't mean the hunter is going to get hit
So moving while healing is OP like that one guy said and this fluid attack shit is a non-factor?

>>381808482
But if you kill it in the end anyway who cares? What incentive is there to do otherwise, and risk losing all that time by dying. If anything this just makes shitters have to git gud. And you still have to due to the rest of the changes made.

>>381808464
It looks similar in its design sure but if you look at the two monsters side by side and can't tell the difference you need to get your eyes checked my man

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>>381808482
>>zone out every time you need to heal
When did I ever say this? It's a viable option when you need to safely heal, buff and sharpen.
>>wasting massive amounts of time
15 seconds is 'massive amounts' to you? Kek
>>monster flies away to the other side of the map to eat and you waste even more time chasing after it
Not if you do it fast enough, and if it does fly away it was going to anyway

>I reiterate, you're complete shit.
Keep telling yourself that lol. I've had a load of fun with these games regardless, I bet you're one of those kids who complains about 'muh honor' in games like Chivalry and For Honor too

>>381806541
That could also apply to you. We've seen 25 minutes of one quest of undetermined rank.

>>381808842
It's funny how you think that's a clever post.

>>381808842
Yeah dude just shut the fuck up already. It doesn't matter what's shown in the stream if the devs themselves stated otherwise. Demos don't mean shit because we already KNOW that the gameplay is faster.
>b-b-but the game is coming out in a few months!
Doesn't mean shit bro they can just change it they have plenty of time.

>>381809067
>ITS JUST A BETA

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>>381809067
>what you actually see yourself is completely wrong, shut up
>but what i'm saying that contradicts what you actually see yourself is right

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>>381806557
>Monsters have more fluid attack patterns.
>fluid attack
>new monster behavior

>>381809260
Yeah now i'm just convinced you're one of those butthurt nintenbro fanboys.
Everything in >>381798702 was proven to be wrong anyway. Just watch the stream you mongoloid. its literally the same game as other Monster Hunters except they're actually trying to improve on the things that matter: THE GAMEPLAY.

>>381809246
Actually it's a tutorial and the monster still shows more aggression and moves between attacks smoother despite that. But keep using that guy as a strawman since his argument sucks and pretend that there only exists two states, getting hit nonstop and never getting hit ever.

>>381809714
>Everything in >>381798702 was proven to be wrong anyway
No it wasn't.

>>381809714
>no actual argument
>resort to console war shitposting
>claim that every single criticism is just a lie
>leaks and stream confirm many of them to be real
>still claim every criticism is just a lie
You should ask to be reassigned to MvCI instead of World, you're terrible at this.

>>381810029
Such as?

>>381810108
Basically everything that the guy replied to with ad homs or no actual arguments, so everything except segmented areas, immersion, and the cooking jingle. Everything else is a legitimate complaint and if you think it isn't you're a fucking retard.

>>381806557
>could
>could
>could
>fluid

>>381810029
Guy that replied to it extensively and got next to nothing in response here, how dare you. 80% boils down "it's different so it sucks" and doesn't take into account any of the other mechanics of the game.

>>381810502
You got almost next to nothing in response because more than half of your post is nothing but ad homs or complete non argument like "meaningless" or "retarded. You don't reserve a thought out reply.

>>381810619
>assuming I'm the one poster that you can attack easier by diverting to word choice so you don't have to actually address the post itself
lmao

>>381811085
So then which post was yours?

>>381810502
>>Guy that replied to it extensively and got next to nothing in response here
>Entire argument boiled down to "lol no" or "ur rong"
Hmm... Really gets the noggin joggin'...

>>381808482

>monster flies away to the other side of the map to eat and you waste even more time chasing after it

This shit is why I took up HBG. One day I got sick of Rathalos being a bitch, and dropping it out of the sky is still my biggest hunter-boner to date.

Rathian's just unlucky and is easily plucked out with normal 3's by comparison.

I don't get the "monsters move faster and are more fluid so mobile healing is needed" argument, Frontier has insanely fast monsters bordering on unfair and yet doesn't have mobile healing to compensate

>>381809714
literally nothing is being improved gameplay wise unless you consider rolling: the game to be an improvement. everything shown are qol improvements like sharpness meter visually decreasing. the actual changes are rolling out of tons of shit you couldn't do before to capture the God Eater/Dark Souls feeling of braindead combat. fucked up your GS charge lol who cares nigga press X lmao

>>381811551
Should be obvious really, only two people wasted their time on making a relatively sizable reply. Been wasting my time in such a way this whole thread actually, getting nothing but meme replies while every other thread will have the same old song and dance despite me attempting to refute and discuss it. Can't wait till the next "omg MHW is anime" thread.
>>381811885
Don't forget that this is all on top of the seamless areas as well. It seems reasonable to have a shuffling about of how it works to maintain the pace and the threat. Also this is the tutorial and while I haven't played it, I've not heard many good words spoken of Frontier.

>>381812907
You already got BTFO with your stupid section of "You're confusing stealth with the monster not being hostile". The monster is hostile, and the webm showing off stealth was mine and I already talked about how it IS stealth, I just cut out the part where they activated the stealth but it is stealth non-the-less. Even then if you're just talking about the reveal trailer the monster is still shown to be hostile. If the monster was NEVER hostile why would they even bother by using stealth? why would they just just walk up to it and attack it? You've done nothing to show that the monster isn't naturally aggressive and you just say shit like "it's more sophisticated now, it isn't hostile". Get a fucking clue retard, your arguments are all paper thin in how strong they hold water.

>>381812907
World is borrowing a lot from Frontier actually, the fast travel using Halks and some moveset adaptations like LS spirit thrust, it's a good game but heavily bloated and has a lot of feature creep.

I really do hope that that large movement speed and sprinting while using items is an armor skill, while a small amount of movement ala DS3 or something coupled with the being hit wastes the potion would be fine, I feel it's really out of place in a mainline MH game

>>381813380
Ok, I'll reply directly about the webm, since I didn't say any about that beyond that post. I assume you mean this one? >>381798291 This is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about, he's cautious when getting close but by the time random loud noises start happening around the monster it's far more concerned with those than the small thing moving at it's other side, like it is it's own animal. This speaks to the monster having multifaceted behaviour that changes depending on multple factors of it's surrounding rather than just some stealth on/off toggle, and that is really fucking exciting. Also I can't believe you're actually asking why they're showcasing new mechanics in a stage demo, but it's par for the course for someone that targets only the last point made in a long list and claims they're BTFO.

>>381815214
>he's cautious when getting close but by the time random loud noises start happening around the monster it's far more concerned with those than the small thing moving at it's other side
you're retarded. read >>381798981 and >>381808362
It doesn't react tot he player because it can't see him because he's using a stealth ability.

>>381815214
Also if the monster wasn't hostile and didn't give a shit about the hunter, why did it suddenly attack him when the Hunter ran out of the cave? So is it Hostile now or not? Because when the Hunter ran out it didn't do anything to warrant hostility. If the Monster was truly passive it would have ignored him completely and gone back to sleep.

>>381815214
Also in the reveal trailer the Monster is clearly hostile. why would it react so aggressively to a potential presence of prey? In the trailer the Hunter ends up finding the monster and it's clearly aware of his presence even when he puts on the Ghillie suit. A passive, non-aggressive, monster would warrant that kind of reaction.

>>381815578
to offer a counterpoint, a lot of wild animals in real life will not give a shit about you or be cautious about you but will flip the fuck out if you make sudden movements or run really fast away from them or at them

>>381815214
And if it wasn't aggressive or hostile towards hunters, there would be no need to be cautious around it even when it's sleeping. Every time the presenters bumped into it sleeping. they were overtly cautious around it. Even int he webm posted ITT they use a stealth ability before fucking with it so that it doesn't immediately attack them. If it wasn't a hostile creature there would be no need for stealth.

>>381813635
Frontier has multiple base camps and big areas too? That sounds cool, though without the seamlessness it wouldn't be as good.

You don't move very fast at all using items though, it's egg carrying speeds, and the full heal does in fact get cancelled on hit. I didn't watch to see if the item is used at the start but I'd be willing to bet it is, although even if it's not you still get into serious danger. It'd be out of place if it was a skill though, it likely wouldn't have all those drawbacks since it has to be worthwhile, but that would make it actually OP.

>UM THAT'S NOT YOUR TARGET

This is the biggest dealbreaker for me. I'm an adrenaline junkie, when a second monsters joins the fray I'm not the type to run away or dungbomb. Fighting multiple monsters is like the highlight of the fucking franchises, completely down the drain because casuals can't multitask.

>>381815908
Like what? Give some examples of predators what are purely passive and non-hostile in any capacity until they see a person running.

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>at minimal another year before release

How do you ease the pain of waiting?

>>381816195
by shitposting about it endlessly

>>381816184
I'm not sure about most places, but where I'm from, you don't want to make sudden movements around snakes if you find yourself around one, they'll attack you unless you back away slowly from them

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>>381797959
>favorite weapon
hammer
>favorite monster
narga or a. rath
>favorite area
flooded forest
>favorite game
4u

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>>381807037
>Game doesn't sell
>Long time fans hate the changes and simplicity
>Normies don't play it because it isn't the Assassin's Creed or FIFA
>Capcom sees this and kills the Franchise altogether
I have seen this before and I wouldn't wish this fate on any series
RIP Monster Hunter

>>381816137
>>UM THAT'S NOT YOUR TARGET

What does this mean? You cant just go into the game and kill every monster you see or something? Hvaent looked at too many videos

>>381816184
All of them? It triggers their predatory instincts, seeing a prey run.

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>>381816041
Actually, Frontier areas are on a whole smaller than the average ones, and most quest favor the arena-style quests as well.
The game goes out of it's way to cut out the fat and just give you the fight.

They do makes some very nice regular style areas though, the newest one in particular, Painted Waterfalls, looks real nice.

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>>381816598
Fuck you MH Wiki.

>>381816591
Are you fucking stupid? walk up to a Lion or a Bear and it will rip your fucking throat out. Even if you don't piss it off it will kill you. Even animals in captivity are extremely aggressive.

>>381816591
You know what else triggers their instincts? Seeing something smaller than it that can fill its belly. Predators don't only kills things that are actively running away from them.

>>381816857
A bear might be spooked by you walking up to it, actually. Humans are strange and don't really appear in nature so animals prefer to stay the fuck away. And yes, running away from predators that weren't previously hostile (Which they always aren't) can trigger them to chase after you.

>>381817109
See
>>381817002

>>381816857
>>381817002
Not really. Lions are lazy shits and dislike open confrontation, but if you run like a retard the females will chase you down because that's literally all they do. Just like cats, Lions hunt their prey by stalking them down and taking them at night.

The great apes are even more prone to fuck your shit if you run. Just sit there, lower your head and pray to god you're no on their shitlist that day.

You're thinking of bees. Run from bees. Because bees are idiots.

>>381817109
Yeah and even just being there can make it want to murder you. That doesn't mean they aren't hostile or aggressive creatures.

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What exactly is the System of MH:W going to be like?

Is it basically like Diablo where you just join up with a few other players and load into a map to fight monsters?

>>381817215
>implying every predator will always bother to kill anything smaller than it.

>>381817246
>Lions are lazy shits
Only the male Lions. Females are the hunters and a male lion will get angry if an outsider comes near its pack. The only way you're going to be able to get near a lion or a group of lions without having them want to kill you is to train them from birth to recognize you are a friend and not food. Even expert lion trainers are aware that one day the creatures that they trained might end up killing them one day.

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>>381797959
>Environmental hazards and grappling hooks

>>381817419
The same system as always, you get a quest, you depart on said quest and you hunt the monster.

>>381815419
By "he" I'm referring to the hunter. Once there's a more important thing to be concerned with (loud noises) the monster doesn't care about him, but once it gets shot in the face and sees him running out in front, it puts two and two together. There's no toggle state for this specific monster to be either always angry and detect and make a beeline for the hunter, or to roll over and do nothing. It has priorities over what to do and when to attack based on what is happening. Hence sophisticated.
>>381816137
>>381816520
In the demo, the tutorial girl says it when you run into another big monster just to remind you to stay focused, but there's nothing stopping you from going after it and they do exactly that in every demo so far so I dunno what he's on about.

>>381817419
hunter hubs are confirmed to be back, so it'll be a lobby system where you can join and then set out on quests, hopefully the PC release will get dedicated server type lobbies

>>381817569
You're still ignoring the fact that the monster doesn't SEE the hunter int he first place. He's hiding in a bush when the hunter throws a rock to get its attention. You seriously need to watch the stream again, everything you've been saying about monster interactivity and stealth has been proven wrong multiple times.

>>381817569
The monster also doesn't get shot int he face, that misses completely. It turns around at the last second and the rock misses its head. It never got hit int he first place.

>>381817524
No. The females are nocturnal too, so during the day they're all lazy shits. That why all the nature documentaries show them lying around with the occasional ambush against gazelles who just wandered too close to them.

In Africa it's illegal to track lions at night. Because odds are the lions will track you. Their K/D ratio against humans is the highest in the animal kingdom for a reason.

>>381817585
I'm gonna be really pissed if there's still a 4 person limit on hubs.
If Frontier can do 100 people in a lobby at once time, World can at least do 20. And it even has more a purpose now with drop-in play.

>>381816598
Ok that sounds much worse and kinda pointless, if they're smaller then fast travel is meaningless and it just sounds like Monster ... But that place looks nice I suppose, though what's the point if you don't properly explore it.

>>381818003
I guess that'd be cool if you like to play with randos. I don't know why you would, but I guess it'd be neat

>>381818230
If the purpose of the game is to ruin MH, why not go all-out and ruin the experience entirely?

>>381818483
Why does having a larger player limit ruin the game? I play with friends so I wouldn't use it anyway, but it'd be there for people who want a large lobby.

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>>381818072
I wouldn't call an alternate Farcaster fast travel really.
It only goes one way.

But at least I don't have to walk down hallways for 30 seconds or more to get from one place where action occurs to another.
Boy, would that be really tedious.

>>381818678
>Being carried is good

To be honest I think it has potential.

The open worldish meme was always gonna be a natural evolution on the previous formula, and although I liked the loading screens and their design applications, this is kind of an obvious change.

>>381818823
I don't understand how a larger player limit in a lobby makes carrying any easier. Are you confusing lobbies with actual in-hunt player limits?