Just got this on Steam. What am I in for?

RNG

Death,loss and getting angry at RNG
And lots of skills you will never use

RNG and suffering

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>>381796330
Having RNGesus fucking you over
Having RNGesus bless you and becoming invincible
Stress
SKELETON WINE
fun
Also pro tip get a fuck load of torches.

A pretty neat game from a graphical standpoint and some decent atmosphere. From a gameplay perspective, though, it's the absolute worst type of RNG bullshit inagibeable. The devs literally broke the game multiple times out of spite so that certain strategies and setups couldn't be relied on anymore. Honestly not worth it.

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>>381796398
>>381796434
But isn't the RNG aspect an integral part of the game? It was described to me as a sort of board game.

>>381796517
You forgot the CRITS and the diseases.

>>381796578
I just beat the game a few days ago, never really had the harsh RNG some people would complain about

>>381796546
>get a fuck load of torches

How many torches are too many? How much food should I be taking? I always feel like I'm wasting inventory space/money buying provisions.

I was thinking of getting this, but the idea of getting fucked over for something out of your control and having to grind back to your previous point sounds tedious.

>>381796830
I always go overboard with it.
I usually get 12 food and a 4 stack of food
8 torches
Having the light be really high can help you not get fucked over by RNGesus, so I always keep it radiant.
You can get by with less torches if you have a move that increases the light while in combat.
Also food heals so it's always nice to have along, plus you get money back for extra when you complete the quest.

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>>381796330
Hey man, if you see me, lit me up, kay?

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>>381796830
>How many torches are too many?
I usually go with 8 on short, 12 on medium, and 16 on long.

>How much food should I be taking?
About 2 full stacks

I also hate that this is a random event, EVEN AFTER BEATING HIM

What are some games like Darkest Dungeon? Really liked the experience and want to play something similar.

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>>381797078
B E G O N E

>>381796330

boredom

>>381797015
>Also food heals
Is there any way to heal outside of combat/camp? It seems idiotic that my healers can't do shit outside combat encounters.

10 hours of fun before you drop the game. If you want to beat it expect another 40 - 80 hours of grinding out dungeons with no challenge other than the occasional bullshit rng fuckover. Not worth it at all. Nice art though.

>>381797198
using food

>>381797198
Outside of food, no. It's for balancing purposes, naturally, since there's no mana system or something similar. If a healer could heal out of combat then there's nothing stopping them from full healing and full stress healing after every single battle.

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>>381797198
Nope. Food is the only way.
PROTIP: The occultist has a healing move that can heal up to 12, but has a chance for bleeding. Pair them up with a plague doctor who has battlefield medicine (which heals and removes bleeding if they get any)

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One of the best narrarators in modern vidya.

RNG is simply something you have to plan and manage around.

/v/ always makes a huge deal about it for some reason.

>>381797198
nah, if they could heal outside combat fights would be pretty easy.
If you're low on HP, try to stall the battle by using stun moves while you heal.

>>381797389
the Occultist now has a unique trinket that lowers Bleed chance by like 25% (or was it higher)

>>381797389
put a bleed skill chance reduce on occ healer to drop that bleed chance on his heal

REMIND YOURSELF THAT OVERCONFIDENCE IS A SLOW, AND INSIDIOUS KILLER

>>381797605
SHARP IS THE WEAPON THAT CUTS ON IT'S OWN.

>>381797407
It's not like XCOM where you can always plan around it. How could you plan around the following scenario: party is jumped allowing enemy first turn, one party member receives a crit from full health which brings them to no health other enemy hits the same party member and they have a heart attack and die.

>>381796330
Why does everything in this game take SO FUCKING LONG. 30 minutes for a goddamn short/medium dungeon. I can't be doing with this.

Also I rage quitted the game when I found out I couldn't take my level 5 guys on lower quests.

>>381796330
>What am I in for?
You'll be reminded that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

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>>381797546
it was 25%

>>381796330
Grinding and RNG that determines what level of fun you're allowed to have.

>>381796330
Best game of 2016

>>381797692
the game even says it about making the best of a bad situation.

>>381796830

Better to overspend than to jew it up and die halfway in. You can also use stuff like holy water and other supplies to interact with otherwise dangerous objects such as corrupted shrines.

>>381796546
>get a fuck load of torches.
>not playing without torches to save money and get more loot

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>>381796330
RNG
fuckery
lovecraftian shit
skellingtons
and feels

>>381797809
That doesn't answer his question.

>>381797809
Sure, but having a party member which could have taken 3 hours to level instantly die isn't fun.

Make sure to get the DLC. It adds to the experience.

Remember to take things slow. Its a super long RPG. Also you're going to lose quite a bit of people, maybe even restart more than a few times.

However that's part the learning curb. Is to figure out what works for you, what doesn't. There's no hand holding in the game beyond the tutorial.

You're limited on space, so you need take bare essentials to survive a dungeon. Healing diseases/afflictions & distressing eats up a lot of costs early on. Not to mention needing a few thousand gold just to go back into dungeons safely.

However once you got few reasonable groups. You can start doing farming runs.

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>>381796546
>using torches in green dungeons

>>381796330
Is it me or have there been too many thread asking this same questions? Feels like shilling desu

>>381798347
I just want to get reynald and dismas to the final darkest dungeon

>>381797715
>I've been spoiled by modern gaming where everything is beatable in 2-3hrs.

Strap in son. The game isn't like your CoD or Halos. You're looking at a minimum 100+hr RPG, with DLC that adds on to that.

As for the not being able to take high level dudes in low level dungeons. Its balancing. You're suppose to recruit fresher faced heroes along the way.

Having a full roster is a must.

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>>381796330
Glittering gold. Trinkets and baubles. Paid for in blood.
More dust, more ashes, more disappointment

just confirm to me one thing
the stress symbol is the ancestor's house emblem?

>>381798519
>people discussing good game relatively often since DLC was just released
>they must be shills
Fuck off

>>381796330
Korean MMO grinding

>>381796398
>>381796505
Git gud.

>>381797078
Hillariously easy on green difficulties

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>yfw CRIT on your hero already on deaths door

>>381797398
Is it just me or is the new dlc narration voice lines not as good as the originals?

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>>381797078
>activating that not knowing what it does

>>381797692
>It's not like XCOM where you can always plan around it.
Neo-XCOM has much worse RNG the fuck are you talking about?
In Darkest Dungeon it's not even hard to have a lossless run. Good luck doing the same in XCOM.

get the ps vita version. You can kinda cheat and close game during a dungeon if the rng screws you, it then restarts you back at the start of the dungeon. Eases the pain a little.

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>>381799107
I never prepare for the Shambler

but I can fuck it over

luck is also a skill

>>381798070
Hahahaha How the fuck is dying even real Hahaha Nigga Just retreat from the fight like nigga just press the flag button in the top left.
Retard.

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>>381798684

>>381798540
Green dungeons are often pretty easy without torches. You should try it out sometimes.
>insane crits
>money money money
Just remember to press your advantage and give them no quarter

how hard is it to mod in this game? i want to make some trinkets.

>>381796330
Literally all the damage bad rng in this game throwes at you can be minimized with proper planning and group comp. If you just run in with no real idea of what your groups strengths and weaknesses are and don't equip skills and trinkets to compliment them, you will get rekt. A lot of the grinding people complain about is their fault for not fucking reading what skills do and what resistances enemies have. The game isn't just about combat, it's also heavily about rng management.

>>381796330
Regret

>>381799176
XCOM is also easy to not lose a soldier. The only RNG is missing and enemies landing shots. Both of which can be planned around. Never take a risky shot that leaves a soldier in danger. Break LOS to not get hit.

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>>381798940

>its my Flagellant

>>381799465
>retreat before you have a turn
what? you can't retreat before an enemy turn when you're surprised

>>381800357
So pretty much it's only difficult at the beginning when you don't know anything and ends up like every other turn based rpg ever where the game either becomes boring after that point or relies on throwing unexpected things at you for brief moments of excitement?

>>381796434
>>lots of skills you will never use

This is why you suck at the game. Pretty much every skill save for a few basic attacks on support characters are useful in the right party comp. Swapping out skills based on what adventures you are using and going for a specific party dynamic will stop a lot of the bullshit.

>>381800721
>>relies on throwing unexpected things at you for brief moments of excitement

Why else do you play rougelikes?

>>381796660

sometimes I think the majority of /v/ is just genuinely bad at RPGs. See all the whining about the turn timer in xcom 2.

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>>381796330
Am I the only one who gets exhausted playing this game? The first few missions of a campaign I can blow through easily but now I always close out after a single mission no matter how short it is.

>>381800956
>DD
>rougelike
In what universe

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>>381796330
getting cucked by RNG
and being told your not faggot enough, or too much of a faggot to go on missions

>>381800956
Darkest Dungeon is not a roguelike, and roguelikes usually allow for various race/class combinations to make for new runs.

Am I a retard or are Flagellant OP as fuck?

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Should I reset?

>>381801317

He is op as fuck, that is why you cant take two of them

>>381801052
>>randomized dungeons and encounters
>>use resources pulled from said dungeons to advance overall progression
>>perma death for heros and permadeath for you on hardmode
>>not realizing most people don't give a shit about ASCII characters to care about the difference between rougelike and rougelite

Are you simple boy?

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>>381801438
>dying to prophet
>with a fucking occultist in the party
>no one to hit the backlines

yes. you should not only reset but uninstall the game.

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>>381801552
People like you make words lose meaning. Permadeath and inventory looks like Skyrim where you delete your save when you die is a roguelike.
Look at games like DG:SS, Nethack and Rogue itself, they don't belong in the same genre as binding of isaac, DD, nuclear throne. Kill yourself you braindead fuck.

Is offence still the best defence?

tell me about the dlc

>>381802032
always has been

>>381802003
language is malleable and changes with the times, don't be a linguistic prescriptionist.

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>>381801847
The occultist was my backline hitter.

Did they ever fix the bullshit surprise attack that your heroes sometimes do? It was way too annoying getting fucked over by something that is supposed to be good for you, but ends up being a nightmare as it lets the enemy go twice in a row.

>>381802032
Yes. Focus on taking out the stress dealers first.

>>381802245
>have two words to describe two distinct things
>use one and lose the distinction between the two for no reason
The distinction hasn't changed. It's like calling a game like League of Legends a third person shooter because it has third person perspective and sometimes you use a gun. It's retarded and so are you.

>>381802245
>It's fine to misuse words! Let's just make genre definitions even more useless than they currently are!

>>381797539
>Giving bad advice

Question: is it possible to make an op team that doesnt die at all?
I kinda dislike having my dudes die on me, I want to hire a few and stick with them to the end.

>>381803302
you could play a different game

Million/10 art direction but the gameplay is grinding.

Fuck this game you can even get ambushed when you camp.

>>381801552
XCOM is a fucking roguelike if you want to use proc gen and perma death as what makes the genre. Just look at this and Nethack. The game lacks quantized turns/tiles, there's no actual dungeon to explore just encounters relative to what the dungeon has to offer, no item ID system, it's not grind based, and you don't control a single character.

It's like calling Portal an FPS because it's in first person and has a portal 'gun'.

>>381803302
It's possible, but different parties work best in different dungeons due to them having certain enemies and debuffs. For example, the crusader works best in the ruins because of his ability to do extra damage to undead enemies.

>>381796330
RNG and grinding.
The RNG is the fun part, once you figure out proper risk mitigation you're left with hallow, endless grinding.
Game seriously needs more content.

>>381802256
nigga why the fuck would you use the occultist for anything other than weak spam to make even bosses harmless or crit heals for 50 health?
there are way better backline stunners and hitters than him

>>381796434

git gud

the only skills in the game that approach that are hands from the abyss and the antiquarians stab
and maybe toxin trickery

and i'd bet you could come up with good uses for those three too, i just havent

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>it's another 4 sycophants who thirst fuck your noobie party

Just fuck off you mosquito faggots

>>381803302
Yes. It's not even that hard if you are properly prepared and don't do retarded shit like sending a Bleed team into the Ruins.

>>381796330
it's fun but you really have to git gud. Prepare for lots of losses and frustration, your heroes will be going bananas at each mission or complain about food.

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>First time againts the bird
>"this must be easy, didnt even have to fight my way to it unlike Vvulf"
>Oh fuck it has shitloads of actions per turn
>Pecks my graverobber like a sewing machine
>Crits all around
>Graverobber falls on the first death check
>Fucking useless slut
>Bird says "Nothing personnel kid" and flies off
Say it with me: OVERCONFIDENCE

what's the best class?
And what's the shittiest one?

>>381796330
A long grindfest in the midgame that makes it not even worth it in the end

I've been having fun mixing classes and trying different types of parties, but fuck it. Some classes like joker and antiquarian seem like they're a waste of space.

>>381804998
jester
jester

>>381804937
IS

>>381803679
You're mixing up mechanics and genres. Mechanics don't define genres, the reasons why people play them do. So what DD doesn't have tiles and turns, so what it doesn't have an ID system, people play Nethack and DD for the same core reason, random encounters and permadeath. People don't play portal because it is first person, they play it because its a puzzler. You're proving my point.

>>381804937
Was that a champion bird? This faggot has over 60 dodge, holy shit am I angry
>>381804998
The best one is clearly the bounty hunter.

>>381796330
Grinding, grinding, grinding

RNG will fuck you and the punishment will be more grinding

it's a shit game at the core, if you love that kind of grind you have shitaste and the simplistic combat makes it even more boring to swallow

I was suggested to make plenty of "suicide missions" with shitty characters. Hire a group of idiots win a couple of battles, loot stuff, retreat, disband them and repeat. That's the best way gather resources in order to then develop a proper team

>>381805332
>simplistic combat
the mechanics are cool though

>>381805372
Discarding low-level guys if they get too stressed from 1-2 runs is usually a good idea. If they dont I leave them in my team

>>381805295
Genres like metroidvania and roguelike are defined by the mechanics of the games they reference.

DAZED

Stress control is the worst part about this game. It will fuck you over and since you're required to go on a quest (read: explore a dungeon for 20-40m) in order to heal your characters, you'll be grinding for a long time.

>>381804998
All of them have their uses. If you just care about combat performance then Antiquarian is the shittiest, because that's not the reason for taking her.

>>381805181
>Jester
>not god tier
Antiquarian is meant for getting Gold and Trinkets, not fighting you retard.

>>381805295
>Mechanics don't define genres

Drown yourself in formaldehyde. People like you are why MMO, RPG, and Metroidvania are fucking worthless now to describe games.

The reason I brought up Portal is because there's people who think it's an fps and argue it in the same superficial way you're arguing for DD being a roguelike. You ignore the context of other aspects of the genre, especially a genre defined by its mechanical relation to the game that spawned it, and how they work with one another to form its core. Even outlier titles in the genre like Cataclysm have more in common with Rogue than DD.

>>381805295
>play advanced wars for tank and infantry combat
>play company of heroes for tank and infantry combat
>they're the same genre according to you
????

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>>381805295
>Mechanics don't define genres
What did he mean by this?

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is the DLC worth buying it?

Darkest Dungeon looks like something I'd pay for as a mobile game.

>>381806620
Heard the DLC just added frustrating mechanics

>>381804998
hound master
antiquarian (but u get more gold)

>>381804998
best is a fierce battle between leper and abomination

worst is abomination cause he cant go with any holy members.

>>381806910
Wtf is this shit about antiquarian giving more gold?

I don't have the dlc btw.

>>381806620
it's good, but I would get it/activate it after you beat your first level 5 dungeon. You can start the DLC any time in your campaign.

>>381806620
It's good, but it lies by saying the campaign can be played alongside the main story. If you do that, you get rocked. The courtyard is long as fuck and bodies weak heroes.

You're up for some fun, OP.

But what's with the RNG suffering-meme, the game is actually pretty easy when you know what team comps to take to each dungeon and how to counter certain enemy compositions.

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>>381807039
when u interact with objects of interest you occasionally get antiques which gives you gold at the end of a quest. Also gold has a higher stack number

>>381807015
She finds you extra treasures each battle.

>>381806916
>not getting rid of that restriction
We're diving into deep shit in these dungeons, if someone can't stand alongside someone due to "muh religion", they don't deserve to be there.

>>381807172
meant for >>381807015

>>381807137
And like every turn based rpg ever, it becomes mundane after that point.

>>381797903
>when you're so mad that you got stabbed that you manage to slice clean your opponent's head off with a fucking mace

>>381807137
People get wrecked once by RNG and remember it. People don't remember when the game is largely fair or tilts the game in their favor.
I think radiant mode helps a lot with that. Makes losing progress not so devastating

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>whole party becomes abusive
>a death spiral of bitching, refusing heals and healing, and smacking each other around
>party refuses to retreat from battle
>somehow survive intact out of sheer cussedness
>party refuses to abandon quest
>party wipe from consecutive heart attacks
GG

>>381804998
Best is doggo master, who is versatile enough to have a role in any team.

Worst is Antiquarian, who pretty much drags down any team they're in, which is sort of the point of the character.

i'm about to fight the flesh
anything i should know/bring lads

>>381808021
Like everything in the warrens bleed it out. Multi-target bleeds are especially effective.

>>381798347
wut mod is that

>>381808021

Vestal/Jester/Houndmaster/anything except occultist or antiquarian

>>381808317
Just looks like a jojo panel with DD UI

>>381808021
It bleeds, so you can kill it.

>>381808916
A bunch of slack jawed faggots around here

>>381809405
got more?

>>381807924
Something similar just happend to me. I had a paranoid party member and two others received death blowsfrom this terrorized fuck. Then he suffered a heart attack and the remaining hero refused to abandon quest and suffered a heart attack. Fucking hell.

>>381809650
that's the only one.

>>381796330
One of the few absolutely stellar games to be released in the last few years.

>B-B-B-BUT RNG!
Bullshit, preparation and game knowledge negate any "RNG" you come across.

Just get fucking good at the game.

>>381796330
*takes one step*
YOUR TEAM IS HUNGRY, eat or else die.
*takes another step*
YOUR TEAM IS HUNGRY AGAIN
Why dont they fucking add a cooldown or a timer or something on that shit

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>>381809840

>>381800674
>he doesn't heal up
>he goes into a fight at low health/at death's door
Fault.

>>381801438
The fuck did you expected to do with that party?

>>381810058
This seems bullshitty. I've never had to eat more than once in short dungeons or twice in medium ones.

>>381810935
read what I wrote. crit from full health. The scenario I described happened twice while beating the game.

>>381796330
>What am I in for?
A game that triggers autists who view videogames as nothing more than some kind of puzzle to be solved.

>was going to get this
>read that it's feast or famine type RNG bullshit

Whew, dodged a bullet. Thanks senpaitachi

>>381806620
It's fun. Can be challenging through.

>>381811451
Well whoever told you that is wrong. Nice to see you're taking retard's opinions on games.

>>381811194
I don't know how you fucked up, but it's still your fault. It always is. No way to tell without a video though.

>>381811687
You're retarded. I actually like the game by the way. You blindly defend the bullshit RNG even though you can't actually think of a way to plan for the scenario I described. Read the thread before you post.

bestest team 3 antiquarians 1 arms master, speed trinkets all round. surprise round dodge and speed buff, every turn after stabbity stab. Makes assloads of cash every time. Get gud 4chan.

Man, the ending is very unsatisfying. I get that it fits with the Eldritch themes and lovecraftian storytelling, but all the work being for nothing feels like a waste. I'm not expecting a happy ending, but something beyond "now you're the demon, after spending years of your life fighting the beasts for some reason would be appreciated. Especially after that amazing final boss.

>>381796330
>>381796398
>>381796434
>>381796505
>>381796517
>>381796546
Not him, but is the game good or bad? I'm looking for some new nice rogue-like game, hopefully one that gives me a feeling of progression too.

I feel like the narrator forgot how to do the voice because holy fuck is it obvious when he's doing new lines

>>381813259
Yeah because you haven't heard them 6 million times.

>>381813156

It has progression but requires some micromanagement if you're into that.

>>381806620
Only if you rush the vintners building. Otherwise prepare for your dudes dying out of the blue.

It's really makes Stygian difficulty harder as well, as you have zero blood at the beginning.

>>381813156
You can play like two hours on steam and the ask for a refund.

>>381813531
Nice, so lot of unlockables by playing the games? I remember one I played a little while back where you'd unlock new classes, characters, etc by playing the game.

Grinding

>>381812142
You're retarded. Enemies in low level dungeon can't reduce you to 0 HP in a single crit and in high levels you should have upgraded armor.

>>381813156
It's not a roguelike.

>>381813745
You unlock upgrades for characters and such by upgrading buildings. Classes and such are randomly sent to you via stagecoach after every mission. You also get trinkets, which often have positive and negative qualities. You mostly progress by ranking up heroes, taking on bosses and upgrading buildings.

Do Lepers provide the most hype surprise crits?

>>381814018
Even with appropriate armour, are you seriously trying to pretend you have never been hit with a crit doing 60+ damage?

>>381801438
>Facing prophet with little to no backrow hitters

Oh shit nigger what are you doing?

>>381799062
New bloodsuckers theme make up for it quite well

>>381814218
That sounds quite interesting indeed. So basically even if your characters die your base is still there but you gotta recruit new ones?

>>381814493
Not yet.

>>381814682
so you've played for like 5 hours max then

>>381814493
there is like, literally 1, maybe 2 enemies in the game that can crit for 60. Even then, after the first time you should be prepared and bring a fucking occultist to the area, or just stun the fuck out of it.

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>>381814790

>>381815131
read the thread before responding

>>381813008
You don't become the demon, but one of your descendants down the line will eventually shit the bed and start the whole thing again.It's a weird one because where the countess came from isn't explained but it was through her that the ancestor learned about the beast beneath the manor.

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what the FUCK does RNG mean?

>>381815454
Only the good games produce high quality memes.

>>381814653
Yeah, your base remains upgraded, so if you get bodies in a mission you build up from new heroes. It's neat and I like it a lot.

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>>381815454

>>381815447
Random Number Generator
It's what your compooter uses to do something "randomly"

>>381814653
In some ways the game is built around dying.
You level up fast and higher level characters don't want to go into lower level dungeons. If you are good and lose no characters, you may end up with lower level bosses you need to kill and no characters that want to do it, so you need to dismiss leveled characters to get new unleveled ones.

>>381805254
A

>>381817898
FAST

>>381813156
You have some good progression until you get to Champion dungeons. Then suddenly you hit a brick wall.

>regular enemies with 100s HP
>Suddenly your best heroes hit for shit doing 5-10 damage and never crit
>Deaths door after two waves

>>381796330
SHOULD I BUY THE EXPANSION

>>381800674
Being surprised does nothing else other than scramble your team.

Speed is still a factor in who gets to go first.

Only your team is allowed to go first when the enemies are surprised.

>>381796330
Get some mods that give you more inventory space.

>>381801438
>>381814607
>>381801847
I just beat Prophet with Leper, Crusade, Pleggy, & Occultist.
Plegs buffed damage on lep & cru and they chopped pews like insane lumberjacks until Prophet got in swinging distance and occultist marked him.
Plegs died but got rezzed in a town event ^ ^

>>381818032
AND

SOOTHED
SEDATED

>costs alot of money to get rid of bad traits
>also takes them out for a week
Some of this shit only exists to waste your fucking time

>>381800767
Say that to a HWM.

>>381818421
It makes you lose the first turn. Plus, I don't know if I'm bullshitting or not but I feel like when I surprise monsters they often get TWO rounds on me. Is my speed too low?

>>381819587
Yeah, I feel like this sickness healing aspect of the game is just fucking bullshit. If you could pass a week without going into a dungeon the mechanic would be fair. But having to play for 30m so your character can heal is quite unappealing.

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>>381816050

>>381820327
What's in that fucking wine cup?

>>381820398
Skele Juice

Keeps you boney

>>381820398
wine so old it's rotten, scary stuff.

>>381819587
>can have like 30 guys
>can't use one of them
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>381811451
they're exaggerating. There's an optional mode that shortens the game by doubling XP, so there's no grind

it's fun even if you don't beat it because the final dungeon is gated

>>381820543
Sometimes several guys will get sick, and sickness are immensely punishing.

>>381820667
And? Even if it's all 4 of them you have 2 dozen other characters waiting.

>>381819587
No it exists to force you to have a diverse stable of heroes since they can die at any moment

>>381819954
Some of it seems like poor design. Its better to recruit people to throw away in a dungeon for a week than take a run seriously. You pass a week, get whatever they had in a no-provision run, and you didn't get stress or anything on people you give a shit about.

>>381796330
>playing mobile like game or paying for flash like game
Hahaha, young people are dumb nowadays

>>381820398
At first I thought it was full of blood, but it turns out it's full of old, "tainted" wine that they've had since they died.

>>381819339
INSIDIOUS

>>381821292
KILLER

>>381821137
It's much higher quality than mobile/flash games, and your statement is telling of your age, both your wording and the point in itself.

Teenagers shouldn't be allowed to post.

I probably just suck at rpgs but all of the skills and moves you can do confuse me at times, as in I'm not sure if it's more efficient to try and stack bleed or just go for damage in a given situation (same with blight). Dismas's self buff seems like it isn't worth wasting a turn on as well.

>>381821015
>Some of it seems like poor design. Its better to recruit people to throw away in a dungeon for a week than take a run seriously. You pass a week, get whatever they had in a no-provision run, and you didn't get stress or anything on people you give a shit about.
You only do that if you are bad.
Tha

>>381822432
>Tha
oh shit I think the Collector got him

>>381799713
They removed darkness crit bonus.

>>381819954
>pass a week without going into a dungeon, but you pay a little gold
what's the problem exactly

>>381822432
See you when the Collector sends out your head to fight me, anon.

>>381822835
No they didn't.

>>381822835
WHAT
FUCKING WHAT
NOW IS THERE ANY REASON FOR ME TO NEVER BRING TORCHES

>>381822889
Say you want to take on a hard dungeon but three of your main heroes need healing. You'd need to take on a dungeon, go through all of it and only then you could take on the hard dungeon. The alternative would be to do a kamikaze run, which is stupid.

>>381820398
Presumably old ass wine but infused with the fucked up eldritch corruption coming from the manor

>no one posted it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GW-Y445jUc

>>381823148
you should have multiple teams. you're being all weird because 1 of your teams has to take a week out due to disease like they do with afflictions and shit

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Frustration you say?

>>381820398
period blood

>>381823454
>jester on ruins
deserved it
why the fuck would you bring a bleeder to a place full of skeletons with 200% bleed resist?
he wasn't even using finale what the fuck

>>381823864
i barely use bleed on my jester, i just have him finale the worst enemy and then be a stress removal bitch for the rest of the fight

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>>381823864
>it's a bounty hunter is the only one with mark episode

>>381824079
also apparently he didn't know that even if he killed the necromancer he would need to kill the three skeletons because they DO NOT DESPAWN AFTER HE DIES.

it was a lost cause since the start

>>381824173
if you kill the boss but wipe after the fact you get the quest reward but not the stuff you looted in the dungeon

>>381796330
Ancestors.

>>381824316
>>381824173
retreat would have been better. The heroes are worth more than whatever prize the dungeon offers, and you got a boss sitting behind 3 proxies that only your vestal can attack.
>modded so that finish him attacks the fourth space

Glad he died.

>>381824025
>>381823864
This. Jester does two things. Open with Finale then de-stress. If there's no stress play the ballad of move up two steps till he can use finale again.

>>381805671
REELING

>>381805295
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Something has gone terribly wrong in our school system if it produces people that think like this.

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29hrs into the game and I'm bored out of my fucking mind by the game. Can't go longer than 2 dungeons anymore before turning it off.

What do I do?

>>381823454
>not just having the healer attack when the Necromancer was at 2 health anyway
Its what I would have done. Unless being at Death's Door guarantees your hero to die if they try to come back to town.

I want to say that I hate the game, but it has some of the most satisfying RNG passes I've played. That moment when a character's resolve is being tested and then

POWERFUL

Is pretty fucking hype.

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>>381824981
I disagree. By itself it's a pretty boring and slow strat, you use ballad once, get a minor debuff and then fuck off to the back before you can really stack anything. Jester strats should really involve using his movement attacks to shift your line and put characters into advantageous positions, like say, man-at-arms if he's in the fourth slot: Finale can push him into the 3rd slot, where he can use retribution and then slide back to 4th position when the jester uses dagger. Jester teams are great at fighting shamblers because you don't have to spend empty actions to move. You can reshuffle your line and still get value from it.

>>381825570
mods.
though it's hard to find good mods mostly because trying to copy the game's artstyle is a fucking daunting task

>>381825898
We're after the same thing though. Jester, while he does HAVE bleed attacks and they are useful when you're in the right dungeon, is primarily a shuffle with a fun ultimate attack and high utility moves.

COME ON HEALER

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>>381826048

I don't think I'm going to be able to beat this. The leveling is far too slow, and when you lose a level 5-6 character cause of the new Wulf event or Shriek event, there goes hours of prep time, upgrading and leveling.

To put it into frame, I got my first Wulf town raid event, go with my 6s thinking it will be like Shriek so I only pack food and torches not realizing the tons of rubble and champion fights along the way.

Lost 1 before the boss, then one more once I retreated and I've only beaten 1 of the champion bosses with another 4-5 left. I'd say I'm looking at about another 10+hrs of game time before I clear it. Not a fun prospect.

Getting killed by RNG and having to relegate to broken combos for a chance

>>381826171
Yeah bleed is the cherry on top, if you have other characters who can move as well, jester starts to do very well because bleed helps compensate for for his damage debuff after finale. And I mean, even in the ruins you still fight ghouls and bandits who are susceptible to bleed attacks, so you can still get value. He also has an usually high crit rate, so, that's something i like. I guess I'm just a jester fanboy, I like DOTs, movement attacks and crits.

I enjoyed and beat the game February of last year. Is it worth starting a new save with the DLC?

>>381826474

It's time to cheat. You can mod the game easy by editing the text files.

Anyone have the big explanation sheet of all the characters and their pros/cons? It was posted in a thread last night and I forgot to save it.

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ATTENTION NON-SHITTERS

Is the DLC worth the money? I started a replay of this game at an appropriate time it seems, give me the "I'm a /v/ nobody and here's my opinion anyway" rundown please

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>>381826798
Funnily enough I do, because I saw it in this thread last night and remembered to save it.

Have a nice day, anon.

what's the fucking point of the barbarian
she doesn't deal any more damage
but nearly each hit debuffs her.

>>381796330
I can't remember what difficulty I put mine on but I had a setup of the warrior chick in pos 1 crusader 2 occultist 3 vestal 4 completely maxxed go into the final dungeon and first encounter the dudes with tentacles for stomachs instantly ganged up and killed my crusader in one round

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>>381796330
mistrust

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>>381826874
Thanks m8

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>>381827057
>everyone just slides over

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>>381826913
Medicinal Herbs make the barb broken.

Revelry is the best stress debuff in the game. If it bleeds and AOE stun attack = get out of town. Iron swan is free and has huge crit percentage. The biggest problem for barbs is all her skills are great and you need more of them.

>putting on brawlers gloves

NIGGA NO

>fighting swine god
>level 6 flagellant gets crit to death's door
>92 death blow resist he'll be fine
>gets killed by wilbur's squeal right after
FUCKING BULLSHIT WHY THE FUCK DOES THE SQUEAL DO DAMAGE FUCK THIS SHIT

>>381826913

In the first position, she can hit any target. She out-damages the mass majority of people. She also has double stun.

>>381823105
Again, they didn't. You still get the +3% crit in pitch black.

>>381796830
12 food on short, enough for 3 hunger checks
20 food for medium 30 for long

>>381826806
If you enjoyed the game sure
It's not the biggest expansion pack and the initial difficulty curve for the new content is awkward but everything in the DLC is pretty top quality

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>>381826474
For lulz take 2 arblests and two hound masters and just spam guard all day in dodge gear. You can laugh as every attack wiffs your 86 dodge doggies.
Throw in an antiquarian for added laughs. I call it, Pact de Loup.

>>381796330
i used to play this a while back, never actually got into the darkest dungeon though
hows the expansion? worth 10 bux or should i wait for a sale?

>Courtyard is biggest dungeon in the game
>You can't camp in it
>Missions involve backtracking

haha yeah once again these retards make retarded design decisions that people will defend because muh difficulty

worse than soulsfags

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>>381815454
>Plague doctor is a trap
pls no

>>381828467
>You can't camp in it

you can, you just need to find the campfire wood

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>>381814790
i'm also calling bullshit

>>381828467
Take a jester

>>381828519
its just memefags

>>381814493
worst i've gotten hit with was ~50 by prophet

>>381796398
I don't get the RNG bitching, my main gripe with the game isn't the difficulty but rather the pace. It takes way too long to gather enough heirlooms to upgrade the various buildings of the estate.

>>381828595
>cripple yourself with a useless party shuffler

no thanks

>>381828467

You can camp as long you find the wine crates, the real kick in the balls is how regrouping doesnt advance the week which fuck you up alot

>>381828785
>useless

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>realize i cant get rid of the 2 ecto and 1 giant ecto
>try to prevent their deaths
>retreat from battle
>2 of my party members have heart attacks and die

Can someone tell me if the cinematic after the first clearing the first level of the court is suppose to be muted or is it on my end?

>>381828785
>jester
>useless
pick one

>>381828864
>party buff that does nothing
>a bleed
>stress reduction

yes it's fucking nothing

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>>381820398

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WHO HERE MUSKETEER?

>>381829005
>stress reduction
>nothing
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

>>381829103
houndmaster is better

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>slowly move through area bit by bit
>lmao gotta backtrack now
>fucking 6000000 tile maps to slowly move through while wading through vermin

I always redownload it after a few months of dropping it only to drop it again not even three days later.

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>>381828785
>>381829005

>he doesnt know

You dont need to be such a shitter anon

Nigga, everything in the courtyard bleeds so damn easy and finale is the best now

>>381829286
shuffle comp is the fastest way to get your shit rocked because shufflers have the resistances of a wet paper towel

abom is pretty fun desu

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>medium map they said
>the entrance was in the middle and the map was literally half on each side, making it become a huge map because of the backtracking
>hunger hits TRICE during my backtrack to the first room so I could explore the other half, I run out of food and lose 50% of my party's HP
>run out of my 8 torches
>no food left, decide to camp and try to continue
>SUDDENLY MAGGOTS ATTACK
>they get the first RNG strike, all of them
>they gank my best guy up
>insta killed in their attack phase
>mfw

Holy shit FUCK YOU RNG

This game is refreshingly fun tho

>>381829681
>bringing only 8 torches to a medium quest
baka senpai tnh

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>first playthrough
>time to take on the apprentice necromancer
>take dismas reynauld and a vestal because I'm boring
>take houndmaster because I got tired of putting up with the jester's memey shit
>literally one space away from boss's door this monster called the Collector shows up
>two heroes get resolved tested and become masochistic
>still pull off killing that thing and the necromancer with only one guy going to death's door

>>381829681
>achievements for sucking
Fucking hate those.

>>381829681
>medium
>8 torches
stopped reading there

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>vestal develops nymphomania

>>381830218
nice

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>>381830406
>put her in brothel
>see her say "I pick you, you, and you. It's been a rough day."
>"I think I pulled a muscle on that one"

>>381830218

She is a secret nympho, check the new trinket she got

>leper
>rabies

wat do

>>381830945
Waste away in style

>>381830945
celebrate

>>381830945
pray

>>381830218
>jester can only meditate

>>381831331
>spends the entire time thinking up shitty gags to pull on his party members

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>>381830218
>PD has deviant tastes

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>leper in the brothel

>>381796330

Eventually you stop angsting over the heroes you recruit. Shortly after that veil of "omg permadeath everything is depressing" stops having an effect on the way you play, the game becomes less fun in turn.

With enough investment in infrastructure you can always come back from major losses, but eventually you may hit a snag or feel the game has become a slog as you keep re-preening your best heroes until they're all ready to go out again.

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>>381797078
>mfw activating one for the first time not realizing what it did

>>381796830
Just follow the wiki
http://darkestdungeon.gamepedia.com/Expeditions_Guide

>>381829681

>Short
12foods, 8 torches
>Medium
18foods, 12torches
>Long
24foods, 16torches

Run with more torches if you have people with items that give them benefits with high light ratings.

>>381831920
wow, I can't imagine someone taking the fun out of a game this much

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>>381832168
>Darkest Dungeon
>Fun

this is a game for autistic minmaxers, there is no fun to be had for casuals unless they're literally so underdeveloped that they enjoy losing over and over

and for that kind of life play a moba or be a republican instead of playing DD

Literally unplayable trash with such a bad RNG system you're better off playing blackjack in a Trump casino.

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>>381797078
that boss was stupid easy, killed him with 3 level 1s and and a level 2 highwayman
the dlc class is too strong and god bless point-blank shot

his summons were more annoying than him

>>381832286
Maybe it's just because I'm still at a low level and there's room for mistakes but I'm playing on the "normal" difficulty without any guides and I haven't had a single death yet. It's not like I've been particularly lucky either. I think playing on the edge on what you consider "safe" for yourself when it comes to supplies and other things is where a lot of the fun comes from.

>>381797898
>sending your entire party to delicate boy pantie time therapy after every round saves money

>>381823692
wtf did you kill off all your original team?

>>381832496
You're being lulled into a false sense of security, that's what the game does

It's why everyone drops the game at their first death, because it's usually completely unexpected.

>>381813156
If you like roguelikes and you like having to prepare and plan carefully, you'll like it.
If you go into it thinking "I love JRPGs~! I'll just run into this dungeon with my best guys even though they have no synergy" you'll rightfully die a lot.

>>381816050
does anyone have that picture with a bunch of charts?

>>381832745
I'll only be mad if it's Dismas or Reynauld.

so like did they speed up the gameplay yet?
im tired of waiting for the computer to make their moves
if im fucked then ill be fucked if i have to wait a year for the animations to play through or if they all finish in less than a second

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>>381796546
>people assumed skeleton wine was blood.
>Crimson court comes out
>vamps don't like it either

>>381832938
>Start up the DLC
>Lose Dismas to stress right after beating the Crocodillian
>Havent touched the game since
The feel is real
One of these days I'll get the two of them to the Heart

Why was the ancestor such a fucking retard
>oh man I can't wait to be a piece of shit and delve into all these ancient secrets
>OH FUCK IM FALLING DOWN ALL THESE PORTALS OF ANTEDILUVIAN EVIL

Alternatively
>disregard bitches
>acquire Nyarlothotep

>>381832364

Point Blank Shot and Duelist Advance. Both hit really hard. Before I used it myself, I thought duelist advance was weak, since all other characters with a reposte ability hit like papper, but Duelist Advance hits as hard as a regular attack AND can reach all rows. Paired with Blank Shot and you got some good shit.

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>>381832898

>>381833410
yea mane that back and forth can be pretty deadly

>>381814259
The Arbalest does.

>>381801030
It's that hesitation of losing heroes, I understand it well.

>>381829005
>party buff that does nothing
I don't even care for the Jester personally but you're fucking retarded; Battle Ballad is the best buff in the game.

>>381814259
Leper is straight up my favorite damage dealer
Crusader is pretty cool but them fucking crits
Plus Quarantine is really useful

>>381831654
>"keep the tip"

>>381811194
You took a risk with having someone afflicted because they need 100+ stress to put them on the path of getting a heart attack. If they weren't afflicted then no matter what the stress would cap at the first threshold at 100 stress.

You gambled with an afflicted character, and you lost them.

>>381833945
eww

>>381833509
thank you anon