3 > 1 > 2

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>>381782068

>>381782068
>not 1>3>2
>I don't care about your opinion, btw.
well i dont care about yours either.

/thread

2>1>3 always

>>381782068
You're right OP, the whole Prime series is trash.

>>381782685
Fuck off, Dobson

>>381782481
I still explained my opinion and it's superior to yours since I can pose arguments and you can't.

3 > 1 > 2

>>381782068
>I don't care about your opinion, btw.
>/thread


Go back. Stay there, this time.

>>381782893
Stop bumping. I won.

>>381782068
I liked 3 more than 2.

>>381782068
Also the music is quite different from prime 1 and 2. It's got Epic Vowels which some people don't like. It doesn't have that Metroid-y feeling to it (the music).

>>381783821
Hell the music didn't even have a space/alien feeling to it.

>>381782068
Prime is fucking shit.
At least we got a real metroid game and also a trash metroid game for halokids

>>381782068
All I care about is SkyTown, Elysia in this game the more I think about it.

>>381784013
No one cares, mentally ill freak. Kek.

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>played the 3 in order 6 months ago
>had to force myself to finish 3

It's clearly the weakest of the bunch.

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>>381784013
What drives someone to be this desperately in need for replies? Fuck em i feel sad for you. Here. Have it. I will even include a picture just for you.

Prime 1 also looked like shit and LITERALLY had N64 water. I never understood why people creamed over its graphics back then.

>>381784207
>I have shittaste and cannot even pose one argument
>please care about my opinion

>>381784207
>Play three long-ass games that are mostly the same back to back
>Get tired by the third
Gee I wonder what happened

>>381784429
>Prime 1 also looked like shit
haha

>>381782068
I don't know anything about Metroid; how's Prime Hunters compared to the rest of the series? I played a level of it a while back and absolutely loved it.

WRONG

PINBALL > THE REST

ABSOLUTE PINACLE OF GAMING

>>381784471
No I think he is right. I didn't play the series back to back and even I got bored of 3 like half way through. I did manage to beat it though and I go back and play every prime game again once in a while when in the mood, and even then I still have to force myself to play 3 despite 1 and 2 still being so easy to plow through in a day just because they are so fun

>>381784675
>haha, 100% static world and N64 water that's literally two overlapped textures is good for GameCube standards

>>381784739
Campaign was eh. Multi was fun.

>>381784883
That's not 100% fair, though. Maybe Prime 1 is more fun on the second playthrough since you know everything and it's satisfying to speed through the ideal way instead of facing those dead ends.

Most people won't finish the games more often than maybe twice or even once, though.

>>381785076
I know pretty much everything about all three games and played each multiple times. I still like prime 3 despite thinking it is the weakest and the hardest to play when comparing to the other 2

>>381782068
>2 just has horrible music and art style with boring as fuck locations and annoying kind of difficulty.
Never got the people who hated on 2's music. It's almost just as good as the first game's, and the good stuff there is some of the franchise's best.

For example, I never got why everyone always goes on about MP1's title theme when the second game's was better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCeNFmqRjLY

Posting MP3's is laughable considering that there's only a few good songs and it's definitely inferior to the other two.

>>381785545
>Posting MP3's is laughable considering that there's only a few good songs and it's definitely inferior to the other two.
Every songs posted in the OP are better than the entire Prime 2 OST.

>but muh title theme
Cool, have fun sitting there and listening to a title theme.

>>381784935
kek

>>381784739
oh man, you should play the Primes then, Prime Hunters, while still ok is easily the weakest campaign-wise.
They're pretty good games to be quite honest family

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2 > 3 > 1

>>381785889
You either Love prime 2 or you think it sucks. I think it sucks but i can see of course why people like it.

>>381782068
>I don't care about your opinion, btw.

>/thread

And what made you think we care about yours?

to me it's 2 >= 1 > 3
I'm pretty happy a new studio is developing prime 4 because it really looked like retro was tired by the end of prime 3

>>381785676
>Every songs posted in the OP are better than the entire Prime 2 OST.
Um sweetie, no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Qv9v2S1Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqitTmFEiH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2KcYcSR64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X515nglsa9k

>Cool, have fun sitting there and listening to a title theme.
'k, have fun sitting there and listening to a blatantly inferior soundtrack.

>>381786446
not to mention the god-tier final boss ost for Emperor Ing, that was crazy

>>381783129
>I won
congratulations

>>381786446
>joke is on you
>I have shittaste

Cool. First song literally doesn't even have any melody, it's LITERALLY (yes, literally) just noise.

You probably have autism.

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>>381786446
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX2KcYcSR64

>>381782068
3 is shit because of waggle.

>>381782068
>time-wasting bullshit like text messages literally popping up to tell you "you don't have the item to enter this place yet, go back (40 minutes walk)". Game also always telling you where you have to go.

You know you can turn the hints off, right?

>>381786820
You're right, you do have shit taste. And your opinion is in the minority. Stop projecting your autism onto us.

>>381782068
I'm replaying it just now and the wiimote aiming tech has not aged well. It's uncomfortable as fuck, and full of gimmicks.

Not to mention the constant interruptions to give you instructions.

>2
>bad art

2 had the best art. I loved the look of that place that was all technoy also those enemies who hack you were cool.

>>381787262
I unironically liked wiimote aiming. I'm sad Nintendo abandoned Wii style controls desu.

>>381787282
Post some prime 2 art, then.

>>381782639
This.

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>>381787474
What exactly are you looking for? In game areas? Title screens? Concept art?

>>381788292
C O N C E P T
and cool looking areas

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>>381789316
Well if it's concept art then I don't know how you think Prime 3 even has a chance but ok

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>>381789316

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>>381789725

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>>381789950
wew

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>>381789316
.

does it bother anyone else that people play metroid games and don't want to explore them

they talk like the entire point of a video game is to get to the goal that the game arbitrarily sets up for you

I don't like or trust other people who play games, I think most of them are normies who should never have been allowed to play easy games

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>>381790096
Prime2 fags BTFO

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>>381789950

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I'd say 2 is probably the weakest of the 3 but it's still really good

I haven't played the trilogy version though, if 2 had 3's gameplay then 3 would probably be the weakest

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>>381790205
lol is that the best P3 has to offer?

I agree with op.

>>381782068
>40 minutes walk

Pretty gross exaggeration, it never took that long to get anywhere.

I liked 2 the best

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>>381790423

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>>381790656

>>381790656
PRIME 2 FAGS BTFOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>381790721
Quadraxis is an overrated bossfight, come on you know it.

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>>381790748
>>381790656
samefag please

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How are prime 3 fags supposed to recover after this one?

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>>381790868
>come on, you know it
just cause you want it to be doesn't make it so

>>381790205
Those guys were badass and it was fun as fuck to kill all the robots due to their physics/animations actually reacting to your projectiles.

Prime 3 >>>> 1 and 2 shit.

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>>381790995
You were saying?

>Game called Metroid Prime 4
>Metroid Prime (Dark Samus) was permanently put down in 3
???

>>381782068
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDz2fp9e0To
Holy shit.

>>381791125
So what's the best Prime bossfight? Not your favorite, the one you think objectively is the best.

>>381791330
Meta Ridley from the first Prime.

>>381790656
I have to admit that while 3 was a bit boring sometimes, it had an amazing texture work in some areas such as this one and skytown too

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>you will never play metroid prime games for the first time ever again
HOLY SHIT WE ARE GETTING A PRIME 4
JESUS CHRIST IS REAL. GOD IS REAL
I WAS 14 WHEN PRIME 3 CAME OUT
14
IT IS HAPPENING. THANK YOU NINTENDO

>>381791560
I have also to admit to you that prime 2 has probably the best atmosphere overall.

>>381784429
If you're playing the Prime Trilogy, the water effects were changed and made worse for some reason (noticeably no ripple effect). The original had decent water effects for the time.

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>>381791330
Don't really have a fav but I always look forward to fighting the Chykka

Kinda sad that Prime 4 is releasing on what is effectively 2006-era hardware. Yes I know, it's extremely powerful for a handheld, but for a console it's still barely better than the Wii U which was barely better than 360/PS3. I would have loved to see a huge leap in fidelity from Prime 3.

>>381791789
>Chykka is 50 meters tall
HOW
it looks like 5, tops.

How do you beat Corruption on hyperdrive though?

>>381782068
Sounds like all the problems you have with 1 are you being shit at the game.

>I don't care about your opinion, btw

Keep telling yourself that, faggot. No one will ever believe you. 3's title theme is more Zelda than Metroid.

>>381791824
Oh come on, there will be a huge leap from the wii hardware to the switch hardware.
BotW looks fucking amazing and it's open world. I learned to trust nintendo again after close to a decade of fuck ups.

>>381792038
>>381791824
BUT, yes, i would love to see it give my rx480 a hard time.

H O W
T H E
F U C K
DID NINTENDO WIN E3 WITH JUST ONE LOGO?????????????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFbDmTjS_MI

>>381782068
>Prime 2 had bad art direction
Who actually believes this for even a second? if anything, MP1 is the weakest of the trilogy in terms of art, most of it's just Ruins/Caves and machinery, Phendrana being the standout.

>>381782639
2 has some great high points but it is inconsistent and has many more low points.
1 > 2 > 3

>>381791145
prime 3 honestly had the worst suits

>>381792934
D E L E T E
Yes, i agree

>>381791145
In this situation, you're supposed to post a suit that would counter his argument, not support it

>>381782068
>2 has horrible music and artstyle
Unironically kill yourself

>>381782068
OP is a faggot

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>>381785889
Good example of Prime 2 being poorly designed. Once you enter the Sanctuary Fortress, you can get cut off from the rest of the game, behind a save point and a very poorly designed boss since it focuses on a part of the game that has very finnicky controls. If you missed any Energy Tanks or anyrthing you're shit out of luck and can't explore or try to get any stronger, breaking core design philosophy.

>>381782639

1 NA Original > 2 > 1 NA Player's Choice/JAP/PAL/Wii > 3

>>381791330
Meta Ridley in 1 overall.
Chykka and Amorbis in 2 are great fun too though.

>>381791939
It's a fucking gigantic room
Like probably the biggest in the series

>>381793208
Is this true?

>>381793208
When do you get cut off?

>>381793028
It's too bad really, i think the main problem
is that they went fucking haywire with the different colors and parts which made them look bad

>>381782068
1=2>3
In my opinion (・∀・)

>>381791694
Nah, that is 1.

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>>381793037
>>381792934

>>381793402
>>381793380
Pretty sure he's talking about the point just before the Spider Ball Guardian fight

>>381793547
Don't you have to exploit to have that happen?
Like I remember you have to actively try to get it to crash if you want it to happen

>>381793514
this one is alright compared to the first one you posted (with the green canon and the new shoulders) but fuck, that thing on her chest is just disgusting

>>381793514
Honestly the pev suit is GOAT but the other ones aren't super great

>>381784471
I took my time and MP3 was trash is what happened.

>>381793805
>Pev
Ped
I need some sleep

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>>381793380
>>381793402
Dark Samus blows up the bridge out of the Fortress after you go in and you need Spiderball to get back out.

>>381793664
No, not the crash for trying to leave the room after you start the fight. You don't need an exploit, the way back out of the area once you've visited the room for the light of Aether is blocked off, I believe. It's been some time but I do know some part of the way back out of the fortress is sealed off after you enter and you can't leave without Spiderball.

>>381793965
should add that I played the game on its hardest difficulty. Not sure if that makes a difference. Boss fights were pretty miserable, though the last one was fun if I'm remembering right.

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>>381792934
>suits
It's literally only the PED suit. Acid rain armor just changes the shoulderpads and the suits color becomes bluer the more corrupted you get.

>>381793998
it's 19:41 here in germanland. Where are you from las?

>>381794053
fuck you for reminding me of that fuck up

>>381794053

Dark Samus only destroys the bridge after you obtain the Spider Ball when you leave to get the Power Bomb.

>>381794173
What level of corruption did Samus get to in MP3? I really liked the parallel to Dark Samus, even if it's incredible obvious what they're doing

>>381794334
I think it was stage 4 during the final fight

>>381794334

It increases throughout the game.
I believe it goes
>10% after Norion
>25% after Mogenar
>50% after Helios
>75% after Meta Ridley
>100% on Phaaze

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>>381794334
I can't remember the exact percentage but you can check it inside your ship. Only goes up whenever you beat another leviathan since the process of destroying the core usually overcharges you with phazon.

>>381794202
Then it's the room by the Light of Aether area. You drop down and need Spiderball to get back up and are locked into a relatively small area.
If the savepoint was on the otherside of the cut off point it wouldn't be so bad but it's on the wrong side of it and I feel that goes against very core design philosophy espoused by Retro, along with the general poorness of the design of that boss fight.

>>381794582
And on Phaaze you can't go back to your ship since it doesn't recognize you anymore.

>>381794608
I don't know what you're referring to, I'm afraid.
There's the reactor core and the save room. You enter the temple, and you can't go back. You beat the spider guardian, and then you can either leave from his room or go back the way you came.

>>381794710
Kinda funny that it wouldn't update her genetic passcode as she became mutated.

>>381794460
>>381794437
>>381794582
>try to get back onto your ship on Phaaze
>literally wont let you in because you're too corrupted for it to register you as Samus

>>381794835

When you reach phaaze you're 100% corrupted.

>>381794173
I know it just hurts me even more to admit there was only one additional suit in the whole game

>>381794935
Obviously not, considering she still has free will

>>381794608
Pretty sure that's wrong too, if you're talking about being stuck in the general area that is the Light Version of Quadraxis boss fight room then no, you can still get out, there's a canon in one of the rooms next to the Quardraxis room that gets you back to the main branch

>>381794823
That's right. If you enter the temple, you can't leave the area until you beat the Spiderball guardian.

>>381792027
>Sounds like all the problems you have with 1 are you being shit at the game.
I read the OP and not really.

>>381795359

That isn't a problem at all. There's literally nothing to do there except beat the Spider Guardian. The first trek into Phazon Mines is worse.

>>381795463
It is a problem because if you missed anything before hand you can't go get stronger or explore, and the Spiderball guardian itself is a bad boss.
Echoes was a rush job and at times it really shows more than others.

>>381795012
AND you get it at the beginning of said game
baka

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>>381794179
Not a masochistic shithole.

>>381795463
Phazon Mine is purposeful though and well designed. That first trek is harsh but it is beautifully set up in a manner to be that way.

>>381795676
Oh I remember what you're talking about now. Yes, there is that Spider Ball track preventing you from returning before you beat the Spider Ball guardian.

Yes, that thing is kinda bullshit.
Even if you keep the Spider Ball from the start of the game by skipping the item loss cutscene, that Spider Ball track is the only one in the game besides the Guardian's room which doesn't work. It only activates after you beat the boss.
Fortunately, a ghetto jump lets you escape.

>>381795012
Prime 2 had nice suits but it spaces Dark and Light out too far.

>>381796072

The Dark Suit shouldn't even have existed, and the Light Suit should have been the Dark Suit instead. Prove me wrong.

>>381796072
Yeah but the underwater backpack upgrade for the Dark Suit was baller.

>>381796175

>Get a super powerful triple jump for underwater
>Never use it again

>>381796173
this would've been pretty cool, but what would replace the light suit then?

>>381782068
It's literally just an illusion of no handholding and non linearity in 1 and 2. Casuals love this, makes them feel less casual while they're actually still casuals in their comfort zone. That's why they prefer 3 over 1. No fake shit to brag with in 3.

>>381786820
How bad are your heaphones/speakers that you can't here the melody in the first song?

>>381796304
>Prime 1 isn't nonlinear
You either need to git gud or stop playing the garbage rereleases

1 NA Original > 2 > 1 NA Player's Choice/JAP/PAL/Wii > 3

>>381796304
Collecting the Artifacts and Sky Temple Keys in any order I want isn't an illusion and having multiple options to get to the same area in the first Prime isn't an illusion either.

>>381796304
There's no illusion of no handholding, unless you turn it off the game will point out where you should be going.

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>>381796296
Actually even better question imo, what new suit
do you wish to happen in prime 4 (or any other metroid game for that matter)?

>>381796474

The Sky Temple Keys are awful, I don't know why you would present those as a good example of nonlinearity.

>>381796474
Artifacts > Sky Temple Keys

Easier to get more naturally through just exploration and get them as you go through the game, rather than them being double invisible in dead end dark aether rooms that the game discourages you from exploring due to the constant damage until the end of the game.

>>381796516
One where you can become liquid or extremely flexible like an octopus

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2 and 3 have the merit of being more their own thing that Prime 1 just being something of a westernized Super that's really slow.

>>381796679
>that's really slow.
git gud. Super and Prime are slow if you're a casual, and fast if you bother to master the mechanics.

>>381796625
You have some weird fetishes.

>>381796625
ooh so kind of a continuation of the fusion suit?
Like she's a squishy metroid and can go through cracks in walls and stuff?

>>381796679
>Echoes
>Metroid with the lightworld darkworld cliche

Not its own thing at all, that shit was everywhere at the time.

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>>381796516
Maybe no new suits besides recolors like in Prime 1 but have it so every upgrade has a visual change on the suit.

>>381796835
Hai Hai, so desu

>>381796853

Echoes was good at this. You had the Space Jump, Gravity Boost and the Space Jump.

>>381796467
I have no idea what your point is or what changes you mean but I played the original.

>>381796474
>shit fetch quest that wants you to backtrack through the whole basically 100% completed world again

That's like saying Wind Waker is non-linear because you can get the Triforce parts in any order.

>>381796901
don't forget the space jump

Friendly reminder that Prime 4 is not made by retro

>inb4 its not even first person

>>381796901
Too bad all those sort of became integrated into the Light suit and you could no longer see them.

>>381796725

Keep up faggotron, I never implied that Super's slow.

>>381796863
Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

>>381796980

That sorts of explain why Nintendo only has a logo to show while Retro's been busy working on something for 4 years. The Deus Ex composer says it's really cool, at least.

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>>381796931
The good version of Prime 1 is just as nonlinear as Super - perhaps more. All it takes is the skill to do the right dash in the right place and you can cut out entire hours of gameplay.
It may even be better than Super in that regard, keeping in mind that there's no meaningful sequence breaking until you reach Red Tower.

>>381797027
It is, if you suck.
It isn't, if you're good.
Just like in Prime.

>>381796853
recolors alone are boring
How about they do recolors of the varia but also change the overall design a bit (but not as much as, say, the suits in prime 2)

>>381797060
This is one of my friends' favorite japanese lines. I read it in his voice.
Harry?

>>381796624
The fact that most the Sky Temple Keys are gated behind the very last upgrade you get is the number one reason why Prime 2 is the worst of the three. You can get half of the Artifacts in the first Prime before you even get the Plasma beam.

>>381797232
> You're weeb-lord harry
also no

>>381796963
dude remember when you got the space jump?

sick

>>381797192

>Just like in Prime

Being good in Prime (As if that's anything to write home about) doesn't erase the fact that Prime games are slow as fuck when you compare it with any 2D Metroid.

>>381797230
I was only saying recolors since if each suit had a unique design they'd also have to redesign the upgrades for each suit to match its aesthetics.

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>>381797192
>dude, just use glitches and unintented shortcuts xD

I knew it, Ocarina of Time is the most non-linear game ever made.

Seirously, there is almost no non-linearity in Prime that is not linked to a dead end and backtracking.

>>381797376
>Prime games are slow as fuck when you compare it with any 2D Metroid.
Patently wrong, scan dashing gives you more momentum than any other Metroid game.

>>381797470
>that kid who scan-dashed to school

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It completes the dark suit.

>>381797470
they're not referring to one single fucking movement option you dolt

prime 1's intended route was a lot slower in its pacing, requiring you to go deep into phendrana for the boost ball then all the way back to tallon iv for the space jump

shit like that

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>>381782068
Those tracks are amazing and much better than what I could remember. Why isn't this getting more praise?

>>381797470

All the scan dashing in the world, (which looks fucking retarded, by the way) isn't gonna make you any less wrong.

>>381797376

You still don't understand. Prime becomes blazing fast once you learn how to scan dash and are able to manipulate the level design to that end.
Just as Super Metroid allows you to go fast so long once you are able to maintain running speed and jumping momentum using your knowledge of the placement of platforms and general level structure.
Both games are equally slow and equally fast. All it takes is gitting gud.

>>381797432
Intended or not, it's a part of the game. Bunnyhopping was never meant to be part of Quake but the game is far superior because of it.

>>381782068
Haven't played 3 but 2 was better than 1. Pretty similar in ways, but it has more atmosphere.

>>381797651
Super had you leave Norfair and go all the way through Brinstar almost to Crateria after you got the ice beam, to get the power bomb.
And then it made you go all the way back again to get the grapple beam.
And then all the way up again to enter the wrecked ship!

>>381794874
Yeah, that was the first time I was like "fuck, phazon is actually a problem".

>>381796980

Friendly reminder that the director, main designer and art director all left Retro after corruption and everyone who stayed did not want to make more Metroid games despite Tanabe's forcing his Sylux boner down their mouths.

>>381797651
>Intended route
>Metroid
Fusion might be more your speed.

>>381792223
Wait for the inevitable emulator a decade down the line :/

>>381798036
>sequence breaks on your first playthrough

>>381798036

Super Metroid, Zero Mission and Prime 1 clearly have an intended route. It is up to the player to have the skill to break free of it.

>>381782068
Atmosphere = 1

Boss design/combat = 2

Level design = 3

They all had their ups and downs, but 1 is objectively the best all around.

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>>381797651
>he doesn't scan jump to get space jump early

>>381786861
The nostalgia is too strong...imo the torvus bog theme really conveyed the sense of wetness/dankness.

>>381798221
i'm actually a pleb who has the player's choice version

tfw i could never keep the fucking combat visor lock-on from the jelly thing in the hallway ahead and if i did i fucked up the dash/positioning anyway

tfw i climbed all the way to the top of the geothermal core just to see a big ol' fuck you locked door

hate that fucking version dude

>>381798221
>He doesn't L-lock spring jump to get Plasma Beam early
>He doesn't simply jump on the right terrain to get Ice Beam and Power Bombs early
>He has never completed a Varialess Magmoor Run

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>>381798151
>Level design = 3
Objectively wrong.

>>381798578

The world design was better than 2.
Prime 2's world was segregated as fuck, but then it asked you to backtrack to get a bunch of powerups. At least Prime 3 recognized it was linear.

>it's a glitch exploiting tryhard retards ruin thread episode

>>381798578
Subjectively would be the correct word in combination with that picture, anon.

3 Surely has the best level design when focussing on specific rooms, platforming, puzzle-solving art etc. though.

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>>381796173
>implying they aren't both great suit designs that step out of metroid tradition

>>381798562
>Plasma Beam early
>Just L-lock spring space jump

took like five of those things, onto a specific monitor onto a tiny stalagmite onto the first platform, into some sort of gimmicky weird boost ball without boost ball shit, into a ghetto jump up the spider ball tracks into more gimmicky weird boost ball shit into walk along this fucking metal ring that half exists and half doesn't exist then do three more ghetto jumps and another l-lock spring space jump

fuck

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>>381798707
There's no shortage of Metroidvanias.
The Metroid series is unique in that its best games not only permit you to sequence break, they teach you to do it and encourage you to do it. They hide secrets in their level design to accommodate it. There are sequence breaks for every single skill level, letting you hone your skills without ever hitting a cliff.
I have yet to find a single other series that scratches this same itch as elegantly or interestingly.

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I know it's super casual, but I was kinda letdown that in the trilogy version, sending satellites from Elysia didn't retroactively give upgrade locations in the previous 2 games.

>>381798851
Metroid has always been about the macro design, something that Super and Prime 1 nail perfectly.

hat's what sequence breaking for. Why are you complaining about sonething fundamental to Metroid?

>>381798860
I don't have a problem with the designs, I love them both. I'm talking about gameplay.
Quadraxis is so much more exciting when you only have the Varia Suit to protect you.

>>381798892
I always wait to have the boost ball before I try that skip. In that case it only takes one L-lock spring jump and one ghetto jump - possibly two additional ghetto jumps if you don't have the spider ball.

>>381799131
That would have been amazing.

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>>381799083
>I have yet to find a single other series that scratches this same itch as elegantly or interestingly.
Aria of Sorrow is on par with Super Metroid.

>>381799083
You are exploiting glitches like fucking speedrunners clipping through walls and other shit. You can do this in fucking every game, doesn't make them the actual level design, the formula and concept the designers had in mind, any less linear.

>>381799425
I've played Aria, but it's not obvious to me what sequence breaks are possible.

>>381797565
i just imagine it hooking on to those two little prongs on the suit's back

>tfw the spider ball upgrade ruins the illusion of the shoulders becoming halves of the morph ball

Prime 3 is too linear

>>381782639
This

>>381799482
>You are exploiting glitches like fucking speedrunners clipping through walls and other shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6AL3Vml40s
Wall jumping, bomb jumping, shinesparking is no glitch.

>>381799586
Prime 2 is just as linear, every environment is isolated from the others and has a very clear progression of Agon -> Torvus -> Sanctuary Fortress.

>>381799315
you spend such a short time in the varia suit in Echoes, so yeah that's sad.
I have yet to do a suitless run, I would've liked to do so in the GCN ver for true hell, but alas it is lost.

>>381799315
>Quadraxis is so much more exciting when you only have the Varia Suit to protect you.
honestly the biggest issue with the various MP2 bosses is that they drop to much energy refills
If quaddy didn't drop as much energy as he does the regular run would feel a lot closer to how the varia run does nowadays

>>381800626

I disagree, the dynamic is quite different.
Without the Dark Suit, the Quadraxis fight is about being able to consistently deal damage so you can get the health pickups. It's not so much about beating him quickly, but about never letting the pace of the fight slow.
If health pickups weren't around then it would simply be about speed.

>>381800826
the health pick ups are large and easy enough to get that they remove much of the urgency of the fight, but also sadly much of the challenge

if you've been collecting health tanks properly it's extremely hard to lose even if you consistently fuck up

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>>381798562
>>He has never completed a Varialess Magmoor Run
That is impossible in the PAL version
I know, I did comparison and the energy drain from the heat is much faster than in the INT version
You cannot, cannot do a Varialess run in the PAL version
Which really pissed me off because I liked playing with the Fusion suit and that pink/yellow colour scheme is fucking ass

>>381782068
1 is different colored tunnels. 2 is desert canyons until you hit SF. 3 is more and more SF. When I think back on all these games, thats the only thing I remember. The first 2 games felt like a burden I had to go through to appreciate and understand Prime 3. I had to visit different colored holes through all these alien planets. And then I got to SF and there was something to look at. After that the games are nolonger about being in a hole.

>>381801179
Prime 2 and Fusion are the only Metroid games where death is even a remote possibility, complaining about difficulty in a Metroid game seems strange to me.

>>381801350
>2 is desert canyons until you hit SF
You seem to have completely forgotten Torvus Bog.

>>381801210
It's possible (but not practical unless you're a TASer or have Biospark-tier skills) to do a VMR in the original NA version with three tanks. It's technically possible to get 5 tanks before entering Magmoor without the Varia Suit. So that means it would have to be more than 50% faster to be truly impossible.
The Wii version is rather easy, it's even possible to do a 2 tank run the long way around.

>>381801537
Is it the one with water, plants and pipes in a hole?

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>>381801926
Yeah that's the swamp.

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>>381803615
Why would anyone bother to leave floating rocks around?

I feel like since nobody mentioned it it must some autism speaking but the missiles in prime 3 were just unsatisfying to use. They packed absolutely no punch.
Anyone else feel that way?

>>381804352
they were fine desu senpai

>>381804352

No super missiles.

>>381803701
Psychic bird people

>>381803701
So they can get places unnaturally without really taking over nature with things like stairs.

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>le hurr, From Software should develop Metroid

Anyone else annoyed by those retards? Even the worst Metroid games take a hueg shit on all Souls games when it comes to level design, art, music, gameplay, polsihing, framerate, difficulty fairness, verticality, platforming, puzzle-solving etc. Like, what's even the point of the comparison?

>>381806823
Not even Souls has music this bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgjmbVE8FLs

>>381798578
You don't know what level design is.

>>381807874
t. Prime 2 shitter

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>>381782639

>>381806823
So you're annoyed that the character reacts to the fact that his swing hits the wall?

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Will Kraid ever appear in another Metroid game?

>>381809628
I really want this motherfucker to appear in a 3D Metroid game.

>>381810521
I just wonder how the fight would go.

>>381808767
Why doesn't the character change his swing style to adapt?

>>381810727
Dropping stuff on his head.

>>381810727
The Golem fight from 3 was basically just an adaption of their plans for 3D Kraid.

>>381810752

Why don't you start writing with your left hand?

>>381810752
Because weapons have fixed movesets, either try to attack with another button, switch to 1 handed, or do some other action that causes said weapon to do a swing that doesn't bounce off the wall, or swap to another weapon you have equipped on your right hand.

>>381810976
I am ambidextrous.

>>381812375
>dark suit ball with varia suit samus
lol

>>381812829
It's probably because he got the Spider Ball. A similar thing happens in Prime 1.

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>>381812958
Actually, getting the Spider Ball doesn't do that in Echoes. The cutscene after killing Quadraxis just always loads the Dark Suit's morph ball, because it assumes you have the Dark Suit. Then when Samus unmorphs it actually checks what suit you have and loads the right one.

>>381813363

It's probably a nonstandard morph, then.
For example, you might obtain the spider ball when you already have the gravity suit. The first cutscene shows the two plates of the morph ball coming together, which have the varia suit colours. Then the camera switches to a different angle, and you suddenly have the gravity suit colours because this is a real morph ball and not just morph ball pieces manipulated in a cutscene.

>>381813807
Yeah, it's just the cutscene thinking it knows what to load instead of actually checking what it should be at the start.

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>>381814876
Makes me wonder how the game would handle this scene if you somehow didn't have the Phazon Suit.

>>381815530

I did something similar. It was on the save file where I skipped the Gravity Suit; I can't remember exactly what happened, unfortunately.

Usually the game thinks of suits in a sequential fashion. If you beat the Omega Pirate with the Varia Suit, then for the remainder of the cutscene you will appear to have "Varia+1" which is clearly the Gravity Suit. But then the cutscene ends, and you have the Phazon Suit again.
In the same way, if you skip the Phazon Suit and fight Metroid Prime with the Gravity Suit then you will appear to be wearing the Varia Suit after your suit is stolen. Until the cutscene continues outside the artifact temple, when you have the Gravity Suit again.

>>381794053
What's hard about the spider guardian?

>>381816813
Terrible physics on the ramp in the last section.

>>381816813
Imprecise controls.

>>381782068
>I don't care about your opinion, btw.
>/thread

wtf is this faggotry?

I thought I was the only one who really liked 3.

It is generally the most hated on /v/ though so you are not getting anything here.

Also no reason to shit on the other prime games. Even though I think prime 3 is great I don't think the other ones are bad you faggot.

>>381791591
>he thinks Metroid Prime 4 will be ANYTHING like the first 3 games.

Nigger, there's a reason Nintendo stopped making these. The people who made Prime are gone - replaced by kid coders who are more often than not sjws.

>>381792038
>BotW looks fucking amazing and it's open world

it runs like garbage though and honestly could look a lot better.

>>381806823
Fromsoft seems like a good fit for it and they were on their dev list

Assuming they would get a nintendo IP to work with I think Metroid is the best fit. I don't even like from that much but I can see the logic.

Why are you so against it?

>>381784013
hi dobson

>>381816064

Oh, and a few other interesting tidbits.
If you manage to make it to Thardus without the Varia Suit, then the Spider Ball will have Gravity Suit colours.
Interestingly and like Super, the Varia Suit seems to be the only powers which are "inherited" by having the superior suit. With only the Gravity Suit you aren't damaged by heat, but having the Phazon Suit doesn't grant you free movement in water.
With the Gravity Suit your visor still steams up before entering a heated room, and you still get the warning messages. But it's perfectly safe to enter them.
Similarly in Prime 2 you can have the Light Suit without the Dark Suit. You will still hear the hissing damage sound when you enter Ingswarm or the poison gas clouds, but no damage will occur.

TRILOGY > 1,2,3

>>381784820
Such a shame that the pinball era is long gone

>>381817863
wrong

>>381793305
casual here, whats the difference between 1 NAO and 1 NAP?

>>381782639
Third post best post

>>381818135

Various sequence breaking patches. Space Jump First is much more difficult in this version of the game for example, and is totally patched out of the Wii versions.

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>>381817863
US GC Prime 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GC Prime 2 > Trilogy > PAL GC Prime 1 > Prime 3

>>381818135
The lore was neutered. Some of the changes regarding Metroid Prime arguably fixed plotholes though.

>>381818642

Patrician taste right here

They're all great games, but I think only 2 and 3 have notable cracks in them. I really can't think of any flaws that the first game has.

2 has the bullshit beam ammo mechanic and has the least amount of map inter-connectivity in the trilogy. 3 has useless waggle mechanics and a story that's a bit uninspired and gets pushed in your face way too much for a Metroid game (second only to Other M in that department).

3 is fun for about 75% of the way through, and then feels like a slog up until the end afterwards. The other two games feel great all the way through, even with the beam ammo mechanics in Prime 2.

3 > 2 > 1

I genuinely think they kept getting better.

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>>381818642
pretty gud show until he died desu

>>381819105

Prime 1 had rather weak combat. Prime 2 is top notch - beam ammo is a complete non-issue, it actually makes fights more interesting.

>>381818642
>The version of Prime 1 with the wonky inconsistent lore
>Better than the version of Prime 1 with proper and fully consistent lore

wat

>>381819105
>I really can't think of any flaws that the first game has.
Remember how scanning looked in Prime 1?

>>381798190
FED: Divine Demolition

>>381819251
>Prime 1 had rather weak combat

Not from my experience. If anything, I felt that combat in Prime 2 was actually a bit easier, especially due to things like Seeker Missiles.

Only notable exceptions in Prime 2 being some of the minibosses in the original release of the game. I'm sure a lot of people in here have vivid memories of original US release Boost Guardian.

>>381819335
not him but I liked it well enough

>>381819484
I liked it well enough to overlook it.
I liked aiming in 3 well enough to overlook the stupid moments with unnecessary waggle.

I think it is retarded to say one is a flaw and the other is perfect.

>>381782068
1 > 3 > 2 for me

>>381819251
>beam ammo
Automatically garbage, this alone is enough to make it the worst of the three. It's the complete antithesis of Metroid and added nothing to the game.

>>381819481
I rarely found a good time to use seekers desu, supers always seemed more useful.

besides that, a lot of Prime's enemies weren't very fun to fight. The beginning of the game is terribly boring, no game should be proud of having a garbage disposal unit as a boss. Even the "real" bosses are quite boring - Flaahgra is stupidly simple and Thardus is dragged out so long it becomes boring. Echoes is not only packed with bosses, they're all interesting.
Even regular enemies sucked. Chozo Ghosts are practically a meme but even Beam Pirates are stupid annoying.

I still think Prime is better than Echoes (just as I think Super is better than Fusion) but Echoes and Fusion both had some fantastic boss fights and had generally superior combat.

>>381819335
I never had an issue with it, to be honest. It's not hard to find a bright orange or red icon to scan. I can understand some people being annoyed with it though.

>>381819937
Echoes has the Dark Space Troopers where the doors will lock until they're gone, you can't defend that especially if you're going to complain about Chozo Ghosts.

>>381782639
correct

>>381820046

Dark Pirates can be killed with a single charged dark beam followed by a missile. You can also track them with the Dark Visor which you get way earlier than the X-Ray Visor you need for the Ghosts.

>>381820038
It looks worse and was a definite improvement in the other games.

I just hate when people don't give credit to the improvements and how everything has to fucking extremes here.

>>381820170
Ghosts can be ignored entirely except for one of the Artifacts in Flaaghra's chamber.

>>381782068
>He finds Chozo Ghosts to be annoying

What? They're pretty fucking fun. I actually love fighting them personally.

Never had a problem with them. Is this some new meme I'm not aware of?

>>381820170
I thought Chozo ghost can be killed with one super missle. Which you get really early.

>>381820307

They have awful music, turn invisible and dart around so you can't find them, and infest the entire Chozo Ruins after getting the Ice Beam.
Fortunately, you don't need to return to Chozo Ruins after the Ice Beam until the artifact hunt.

>>381820416
It's one super followed by one charge shot. Not too bad but still rather expensive.

>>381820508
>awful music
It's actually one of my favorite tracks in the game.
>turn invisible and dart around
What is the X-Ray visor? Switch that shit on and lock on. You'll never lose them.
>infest the entire Chozo Ruins
Yeah, and you can actually ignore most of them. I actually like fighting them though.

Again, this has to be some new meme I don't understand. Maybe a bunch of newbies playing Prime for the first time and being bad.

>>381820961
>It's actually one of my favorite tracks in the game.
Is your favorite Crashed Frigate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LudFV61zsaw

[Sp] I have only played 3 and loved it should I bother emulating the other 2? [/sp]

>>381821437
ctrl+s

And yes you should. Shitposting aside all of them are great.

>>381821437
Most people would say they're better.

>>381821437
Fuck I need to quit being a newfag

>>381821214
It's certainly up there with Phendrana Drifts and Phazon Mines.

Those 3 are better than the Chozo Ghost track though, but I still really like the hecticness of the track.

>>381821591
>Phendrana Drifts
My fucking nigga. God such a great track.

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>>381821591
Phazon Mines is a seriously underrated track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwHcH8cKf6k

>>381821591
I find it incredibly grating. Every 5 minutes through the chozo ruins and you get that nails-on-chalkboard screech and some headache inducing mayhem for BGM.

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>>381819257
Later prime isn't consistent, the plot hole is worse because now Prime has space pirate technology somehow without ever breaking out.

>>381782068
completely agree OP, 3 was underrated as fuck. Was the first Wii game to show me motion controls can be fun as fuck if done right

>>381820508
No, one super downs a ghost on normal mode.

>>381822964
Maybe it's different in different versions? Keeping in mind that the Wii version changed the difficulty settings a bunch.

>>381822853
I'm pretty sure that was also implied by the "OG" US lore as well.

Hell, there are a ton of lore inconsistencies throughout the whole trilogy, Prime 3 being especially guilty for muddying things up.

>>381801210
this is still the cutest picture of samus ive seen

>>381823297
what did Prime 3 do?

>>381823297
In the first version they experimented on Metroid Prime, had some nice foreshadowing and explained some of its features and abilities. It was great. the only issue was how it got out of the impact crater and back in, so they removed all the references but then it still has all the abilities that were put into effect with those references in mind.

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>>381823450
>Implying this isn't the cutest picture of samus

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Prime was never good.

>>381824439
Did Fedora Force really bomb that hard?

>>381798578
>Phazon mines connect to Magmoor caverns
i.. i dont remember that

>>381824839

It's a very useful exit for when you need to get the Plasma Beam.

>>381824439
Just a reminder that Fusion is still the worst 2D game.

Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

>>381825073
Worse than 1 and 2?

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>>381825073
>Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good.

>>381825157
Yes, actually.

I really don't get the massive issues that people give 1 and 2 besides "MUH GWAFICS"

Even then, there's Zero Mission and AM2R if you really can't stand 8-bit for some reason.

Fusion was just a stale experience. There's really nothing memorable about it, outside of the ties it has to Other M (which is not a good thing).

>>381786446
Torvus Bog Theme beats almost everything in the first Prime.

>>381825595
I was going to write a response to this, but it's midnight and
> There's really nothing memorable about it
you already made up your mind. Even if you don't like Fusion, this is plain wrong.

>>381825920
>this is plain wrong

Tell me then, what's memorable about Fusion?

Is it the bland level designs? Is it the boring and generic story? I could maybe give you SA-X if the Prime series didn't pull off the concept of an evil Samus clone a lot better.

>>381825595
>There's really nothing memorable about it
I am not too crazy about fusion but what about the SA-X?

Your oppinion sucks

>>381831382
So does your spelling.