Post games with the greatest combat systems. I'll start.

The Witcher 1

Gothic 2

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>>381775360
bahahahahahahaha

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Underrated

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>bullet time
>leaning
>bicycle kicks
>no ADS shit
GOAT FPS combat system. Hasn't been beat since.

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>pic not related.
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>>381775439
also, definitley not related.

>>381775568
Most of the guns in FEAR still zoom when you right click, which might as well be ADS. And all the machine guns are shit because they can't fire less than four or so bullets at once.

>>381775568
>Best shooter combat
>Great A.I that makes you feel like you're actually fighting trained soldiers
12 years and still nothing even close to it

>>381775545
My nigger

>>381775672
Blade is great and the combat is satisfactory af. Maybe the controls didn't age well, I can give you that

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>>381775439
This

>>381776434
Its so boring though

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>>381775545
Two Towers too

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>>381776603
Definitely, loved everything about these games

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>>381775841
I dunno, the Imps in the DOOM reboot had a pretty ridiculous set of AI options.

Most of the enemies in that game were fancy wandering turrets but those fuckers you could write a white paper on.

Still the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0u32KjfD30

One of those combat systems that if it got reused verbatim by every game of its kind for the next decade, I would be happy.

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how is this not the first post

>>381775439
Gothic's combat is really one of the best and hardest

Dark Souls players always say that their combat is hardcore and requires lots of skill.

Then there's Gothic which just completely shits on them and stomps them to the ground because it's dark souls but the enemy attacks aren't slow as fuck giving you shit ton of time to "press X to roll and avoid all damage from invisibility frames". The enemy attacks are fast as FUCK and you have a fraction of a second to react to them. And there's no healing during a fight, no roll or dodge with invisibility frames, only well times blocks, parry, sidestep and backstep

>>381776434
I don't know if it's all that great but I'd certainly like to see more of it. I just can't think of how it could be improved.

>>381777289
DbtS had bad controls even for their time.

>>381775841
they aren't as clever as you think and can only do a couple of things but it all meshes nicely together
>>381777031
nope the only difference between the imps and every other braindead enemy in that shit game is that they will run back and forth occasionally between waypoints in a room they also constantly get stuck on genometry and run into the player if they just happen to be in the way...
>>381777289
YES

>>381777385
So Gothic's combat is better because it has more artificial difficulty. Right.

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>>381776395
no sweetie, THIS is great combat

>>381777464
I think what makes the Imps interesting is that they have their own navmesh separate from the player's that lets them scale walls and traverse surfaces that other enemies can't, so the route they take between destinations isn't the one that you take.

They also lead you with fireballs surprisingly well.

You'd think it was as good as FEAR if they shouted "flanking!" "Reloading!" "On the left!" and other such shit; half of what made FEAR's AI seem impressive wasn't the things it could do, it was how it constantly reminded the player of those things.

>>381777548
>it has more artificial difficulty.
there is nothing artificial in Gothic 2. It's all based on your skill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOwqqehMlag

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This and God Hand.

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Fuck you, it was fun

>>381777717
>The enemy attacks are fast as FUCK and you have a fraction of a second to react to them. And there's no healing during a fight

Sounds like artificial difficulty to me. I imagine being ganked is a real issue. Nothing like have to attempt the same fight over and over for a dozen times because fighting anything more than one enemy at a time means getting raped. I'm all for hard enemies that require an understanding of the game's mechanics to defeat but that kind of demand should come with other options such as being able to heal yourself or not dying in a hit or two. Otherwise the game becomes a quicksave/quickload slog.

>>381777717
wow, sure looks hard. Back step, Back step, M1, M1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eClHj56wP88

>>381778761
Go on and try the same thing on that video I guarantee you will fail horribly

Doing that requires PERFECTION at timing and if you do something even a fraction of a second too late or too early you get one shot

>>381778761
In another game that would be a good example of how well a game's combat is designed, in that you can compensate for level/power disadvantage by utilising the game's combat in a skillful manner. But the Orc's AI lets the game down in this instance.

>>381779192
And I guarantee I would have that shit down pat within a day or 2. Shallow and easy as fuck.

>>381775228
Great fucking game, but it becomes babby mode when you realize you can just spam your strongest combo. Too bad it runs like shit on modern machines and needs like a billion fixes.

>>381779371
>And I guarantee I would have that shit down pat within a day or 2. Shallow and easy as fuck.

No you wouldn't
Play the fucking game first, then c

>>381779573
damn, how would I ever learn to m1, m1, and use invincibility frames to my advantage? It's basically dork souls except slightly faster timing but the enemy only has 1 or 2 attacks to memorize, and retarded AI.

>>381777219
underrated post

>>381779827
>and use invincibility frames to my advantage?
there are no invisibility frames

And like I said, you can talk all you want but if you actually played the game you would get raped by the wolf which is the first enemy you encounter and rage quit after 15 minutes

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Still to this day I love the lightsaber combat.

>>381775568
>that lighting
>those effects
>that shotty
>them grenades
Shame the series peaked at game one, could have been something great.

>>381777385
i'm playing through Gothic 1 right now and it's way easier than Dark Souls my man. no dodging or anything, i just spam left-right combos and kill everything.

>>381780287
>no modern Jedi Academy equivalent yet
Hopefully after Last Jedi we'll get something.
I'm assuming either that's one of the projects we haven't seen yet by Respawn/Visceral/the new team or EA has been briefed to not touch that subject matter until after the movie.

>>381777219
Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnxgQMSsc8c

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>>381777621
I love MH, but this is autistic, and I play since freedom unite.

>>381780637
Problem is they will just turn down the combat system for the normies.

>>381775568
Recently played through it again.
Why is there no better FPS-AI yet?
Everything is way too scripted nowadays....

>>381780637
What about Blade Symphony? Or Absolver
https://youtu.be/JdtSiJTe_KE

>>381780695
Kek at that panic dive

>>381780196
Honestly, learning how to cheese 1-2 orcs at the same time really isn't difficult. You could have that shit down after an hour of practice.

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>>381776603
Bitches, please

>>381776504
If you aren't shit and play against other people who aren't shit, it's not.

>>381777621
Tri was the last MonHun with a good atmosphere and setting.

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>>381776936
Mein neger

>>381780601
Gothic 1 is really easy

Gothic 2's combat is MUCH harder

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>>381775568
Love F.E.A.R. but not that big on slomo since it cuts out actual twitch skill and on your feet thinking.
I think it even regenerated, wich gives the same result as regen health (wait around to remove skill and reset chances)
I also thought the movement speed could be just a bit faster than it is vanilla. I don't need to be able to strafejump at the speed of light but making the game a bit more quick would make flanking and a bit more aggressive playstyles more encouraged without just going slomo errwhere making all of that unnecessary.

I must say playing through it again it isn't that exciting as i used to think it was, but then again it was the third time i replayed it that year because i loved it so much.

>Dark Souls
>Gothic
>Severance
Kids, meet your grandpa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3Vqppd2Gg
Be on your best behaviour; gramps may be old and falling out of memory, but he was a hard-ass son of a bitch in his day.