nierA

>>381770379

I think underwhelming is the word you were looking for.

>>381770749

Elaborate.

>>381770379
I wasn't that impressed. Sure it has some good moments, weirdness and some surprises, but overall gameplay is very dull.

Open world is empty, ugly, uninspired and boring to traverse, and combat is very simple with repetitive enemies. Especially when you need to hack stuff on second playthrough.

>>381770379
Would actually be spectacular if it didn't keep white screen crashing on my computer. Even with all the fixes available for it and the FAR mod that does fuckall about the issue for me.
Really ruins the moments when you beat a boss and the game decides to shit itself.

Honestly contemplating just playing something else until it's actually fixed.

>>381771739

I don't know why I got Platinum if all the enemies were going to be the same clunky and slow machines. Such a waste.

>>381771191

>combat
In the beginning, you're awed by the fluidity and weight of motion, the beautiful weapons and responsive controls. Then you realize the combo variations are non-existent and there's no incentive to ever swap weapons. This ain't no bayonetta.

Also the hacking mini-game gets old super fast. It'd make for fun spice, but half the game relies on it with no alternatives and it stops being fun.

>quests
Mostly the same "kill monster x/fetch item y" galore as any other rpg ever, that makes you feel like a goddamn machine backtracking all the time (the deepest lore). This is pretty bad when questing makes up about 80% of the content in the game and it's a pain in the ass.

>story
You get solid build-up in the two first routes, but the payoff is ultimately rushed and shallow, depending on secondary sources to appear meaningful. And screams of budget issues.

tl;dr The game makes big promises but barely delivers. 72/100

>>381770379

>This game is a solid 7/10

Fixed the for you.

>>381770379
the music is the only thing that kept me playing, every other aspect is downright mediocre

>>381770379
I reached third route and I just couldn't take it anymore, this game sucked. /v/ is only shilling it because of oversexualized anime girls.

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>>381772234
>Then you realize the combo variations are non-existent

This isn't true. The only problem is there's never really any time to use it as enemies literally just stand around.

>want to play Nier
>It's PS3/Xbox 360 ONLY
Fukk

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>>381772649

>I reached the only good part of the game and couldn't take it

yeah okay

>>381772913

that's what annoys me about this game the enemies are so shit and you're so fucking OP it's ridiculous - the fucking shades in the first game presented more of a challenge, and I'm not even joking

First game is miles better.

>>381772984
wait a bit, a remake will come to ps4.

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>it's another Automata shitpost thread

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>>381773087
>First game is miles better.
Contrarians, everyone.
They're about as good as each other- but have different strengths and weaknesses. Lest I remind you that Nier is a fuckugly game; people give this game shit but it has great background art direction.

>>381773290

>anyone who disagrees with me is a shitposter


>>381773346
>contrarion

It's called an opinion. Nier had better locations, towns, characters, music, and story in my opinion. Automata feels like a flashy imitation with zero substance. Having the break the 4th wall to delete the saves was weak. Ending credit interactivity was neat, but that's about it.

>tfw game keeps crashing at some point in the tutorial
would be nice if squeenix fixed the fucking game but nope

>>381774195
Let me guess, you have an old nvidia gpu?

>>381774297
Not him, but does it matter?

I have GTX 1070 and i7, game still runs like shit with frequent drops to 30-40 frames from 60. The port is horrible.

>>381773087
>First game is miles better.
I always like this type of contrarian shit eaters crawling out from bushes when virtually any game in any franchise gets a second instalment despite the fact it's an objective improvement in many aspects not even touching subjective ones.

>>381772080
It won't actually get fixed. This is how I fixed it or at least all the things I've done to the game.
>Use farmod and turn down the global illumination crap.
>use windowed mode with "borderless gaming" software. Full screen causes everything to be blurry, even the start screen.
And the most important part.
open task manager and under processes tab or whatever, right click nier. Set the core affinity to have every other core disabled.
So if you have a 4 core, disable cores 1 and 3. This is what actually stopped the game from white screening on me, especially during the tutorial. Farmod and borderless gaming just made the game run and look better.

I honestly just refunded my copy and later pirated it once I found out it was cracked. Still had the same issues but at least someone told me about the cores thing.

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>There's no porn of best alt. outfit

Disgusting

>>381773087
>First game is miles better.

The first game's gameplay is the digital equivalent of dog shit.

>>381770379
Not enough A2 screen time desu.

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A2 is spectacular

>>381774442
There's a notorius white screen crash happening when you play for a little while, AMD fixed it with new drivers so the remaining people having this problem are most likely to own an old nvidia card.
Yes the port is garbage, but it's not much better on console. Have you tried the FAR mod?

>>381775156
No I don't install malware

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>>381775018

>love at first sight
>think route C is going to be her story and crown the whole plot
>the shitty manlet steals half her screentime
>have to read anemone's diary to learn her "story"
>A2's character arc is just 2B's repeated at triple speed and makes no sense

My biggest problem with this shittyass game

>>381775290
>malware
You can directly look at the source code you moron

>>381774941

Second's gameplay is good but it has no use as enemies are not any sort of a threat.

>>381774637
>it's a sequel so it's automatically better in every aspect

This is just as stupid.

All it improves is visuals and combat. Even then again Automata's enemies are what brings it down the most.

>>381775516
>A2's character arc is just 2B's
except it isn't

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>>381775516
Pearl Harbor DLC soon Maybe

>>381775290
Considering that its not a piece if software you install to your computer, I don't see what you're talking about.
The port is still trash don't get me wrong but at least you'll get better frames when you lower the global illumation. I hear the consoles use like 16 and on pc it's set to like 1024 or one of those high numbers.

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Who was the new kind that were gonna replace the machines and yohra? The AI?

>>381775610

>machines are evil
>I must kill all machines
>"plz don't kill me"
>omg he doesn't want to fight maybe they're not evil
>dies

The same shit that happened in route A

>>381770379
I was going to buy this game because the lead female was a bad ass Android. But then all people associated her with is her ass so it really ruined her character. Not to say it wasn't inevitable and not that I don't like the porn but did it have to happen so soon before I got to develop my love for the characters existence other than just 2Booty?

>>381775156
I have a GTX1070 and tried FAR, game still keeps crashing after like 15-20 minutes of playtime.

>>381775608
>All it improves is visuals and combat
And also the narrative structure as route C is an actual new content and ending E is actually in the fucking game and not in side materials.
And also the OST as it combines 5-6 arrangements of the tracks from the first game with a huge variety of top-quality new ones.
And it also ties up all major themes of franchise and leads them to a logical conclusion.
And also gives all main characters depths instead of just Kaine.
Both Nier games are great but saying that first one is miles better is just a sign of enormous shit eating contrarianism.

>>381775913
Good job completely misunderstanding 2B's entire personality.

>>381775635

Taro ran out of money, plot DLC never ever

>>381775913
you're retarded or sociopathic.

2B wants to kill all the machines because its her mission directive, the reasoning for it doesn't matter to her.

A2 wants to kill all the machines because she's an angry emo teen and wants revenge.

>>381776154

I know she was fed up with fighting because she loved the manlet but you don't know that on route A, you goddamn mongoloid

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>>381776190
The streaming pile of garbage that was DoD 3 got DLC and this unique little butterfly won't?

>>381776264

You're retarded. I'm talking about the mechanical structure of the story as it is presented in the game, not the underlying emotional implications that you won't learn until way after, and which were so badly presented I'm not even going to talk about them

>>381776086

Yeah, this. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I've is not MILES better than the other.

Honestly my only beef with A is the map, and the enemies being boring fodder to androids that can move a million miles an hour. Nier was annoying as you had to play half of it like 5 times. Nier A letting you choose chapters is so much better.

>>381776074
This is the Actual fix.
>>381774663

>>381772913

whoa whats going on in that webm what's that rope thing he threw out

Is the demo on ps4 a good way to know what the game is like. I'm really anal about spoilers so I don't want to watch gameplay, and I don't trust reviews.

>>381774663

What's this borderless gaming software?

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>>381776423
>won't learn until way after

once again, retarded and sociopathic. It was pretty obvious right from the start 2B didn't have any personal grudge against machines, and that A2 did.

>>381777819
Yeah, in fact it's just the prologue of the main game, the first half hour or so

>>381777901

>the game starts with 2B slaughtering a shit ton of machines while her comrades die around her
>"obviously nothing personal"

You have some guts, calling other people sociopaths, you fucking imbecile

>>381778371

lmao rekt

>>381773290

I just wanted to discuss how spectacular it is....

Love that pic though

>>381770379
A spectacular what though? It's not a spectacular game, that's for sure.

>>381779667

Elaborate.

Pick up Emil's mask?

Yes
No

>>381778371
She gave no shits to her comrades though.
9S is the only important person for her and she holds no actual personal grudge to machines to a point when Adam hurts him.
In fact, the one she hates more than anything is the God who put her into a shitty situation where the only way for her to be with a guy she loves is by fulfilling her awful duty.

Yoko Taro and Platinum need to work on a Drakengard game sometime. Would love to see that messed up world with good gameplay.

>>381780458
This is pretty much an "are you an awful person?" test.

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How do you think the androids felt as they watched last humans finally flicker out? Love? Hatred?
What would it be like to see God die?

>>381780761
some were obviously crushed by it
smarter ones said "fuck humans" and fucked off to Australia according to timeline

>>381775516
Fuck that bullshit, this is why this game will never be above 7/10 for me.

>>381780872

cunts

>>381782376
I'd rather they try to create their own existence than mimic humanity forever.

>>381780543

Am I?

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>>381771231

It's good, but the critcism abou the game's enemy variety is legit. Outside of the bosses, there is the robot, the bigger version of it, the version that looks like the standing centpede thing from Mario (and others) and the snake thing which is the only true different enemy type

>>381770379
why is every summerfag talking about this game now, 16 threads in 3 days, its so hard to resist baiting ffs

Did they fix the Nvidia crash?

>>381770379
that's correct

>>381770379
Looking back on it I'm really glad we got a true sequel to NieR, not some unrelated mainstream rubbish you would expect Square to involve themselves in.

>>381785283

It's as if it's a fairly new game that's on sale on both Steam and PSN or something.

Fucking retard.

>>381770379
I was considering playing this, but then I read that 90% of the time you play as 9S and not 2Booty.
If Im going to play the game for ass dont bait and switch to a manlet.

>>381772234
>This ain't no bayonetta.
No fucking shit, the game is called Nier Automata. It's its own fucking game, stop comparing it to platinum's other works.

You platinum fanboys are the most insufferable cunts on this site, completely dismissing this games merits because it doesn't compare to something like DMC or Bayo. NO FUCKING SHIT. It's a Taro Yoko game, not a game directed by kamiya. Platinum just programmed it.

>>381777882
literally borderless gaming

>>381773087
they were challenging because the gameplay sucked, not because they were legit tough enemies
also
>having trouble with shades after the first hour of gameplay
>in a game OP af spears

>>381775608
>Second's gameplay is good but it has no use as enemies are not any sort of a threat.
Can be said with the first as well.

>>381785283
For people with jobs, finishing a 40 hour game takes time.

to piratefags, CPY release his crack for nierA if you're interested

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>>381770379
Yeah, Route B was pretty slow but I genuinely enjoyed it.

>>381786260
Does it removes Denuvo?

>>381786213

Shades actually moved around and had swift attacks compared to the machines.

>>381786415
yes

>>381786501
And they still missed a ton of the time. The game is easy mode once you learn the controls and how to play efficiently, it's not a difficult game by any stretch.

>>381786501
That doesn't mean they weren't piss easy. If you had any trouble at all with the shades you're fucking awful. Even Shadowlord was fucking pathetic. Also why do you keep posting this in every thread

>games with stun lock and limited saves in 2017

Fuck this trash game

>>381786952
I got 90 hours and I can't remember being stunlocked once

>>381786952
>getting hit

>>381786952
>what is anti-chain damage chips
retard

>>381786952

That thread was hilarious.

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>>381785751

I felt like you when I first played the game. I beat route A and quit playing for a while because I didn't want to play as 9S. Keep going, 9S is still fun to play as, and when shit goes tits up and 9S realizes they are fighting an unwinnable war and he's a disposable hero with no hope, shit gets crazy.

9S is the most psychotic murdering nihilistic monster in the third act, so much so you'll almost forget he started off as a cutesy "ma'am" saying boy toy. This story really throws a lot of emotional punches at 9S and you have to see it for yourself.

If you ever replay the game, you will see Route A in a completely different light after learning more about 9S. 2B is an interesting character and has a couple more fun combos, but 9S story is just balls to the wall crazy. What an unhinged killing machine.

>>381770379
Combat is terrible and repetitive, dialog is cringe tier, only thing it has going for it is dat ass. But what can you expect from a weeb company?

>>381774637
Pretty much happening with persona 5 and shitters thinking 4 was better now.

>>381786952
Git gud, faggit

Just bought it
The game is too easy on normal, ever easier when i purchased a few support chips or whatever

is hard...too hard?

>>381787721
To not cater to complete retards. Its working as intended.

I need to know RIGHT FUCKING NOW: can I plug up my Dualshock with DS4 Windows and be good to go or what? I'm not playing this shit with M+K.

>>381787669
>9S is the most psychotic murdering nihilistic monster in the third ac
You make him seem so much interesting than the actual game does.

>>381787969
I just played Normal, but didn't bother using some of the best chips.

>>381787721
>cringe
>dat
>japanese company=weeb

I keep on telling myself that summer is just a meme, but it's posts like these that prove me wrong. Do you think Sony and Toyota are "weeb" companies too?

>>381788028
>Dualshock with DS4 Windows
no

>>381788119
He's also got a wicked sense of humor.
>>381787969
Hard has mobs 2HKO you and bosses 1HKO you. Chips can potentially offset this. Eh.

>>381788028
I just plug my 360 old controlled and im good to go

>>381788226
>Hard has mobs 2HKO you and bosses 1HKO you

nah, fuck it then, I just want to relax and enjoy the ride

>>381788028
Yeah, shit works fine.

>>381785885
t.Tarocuck.

Levels are shit probably shouldn't have existed or scaling should have been worked on more
Don't really know what to think about chips, indifferent I guess
Combat is mediocre
Enemy variety type is shit
Music is 10/10
Story is okay

Good game for hobo budget, May or may not be taro last hoorah. He tried to go mobage but sinoalice sucks dick

>>381788181
DS4 works well with steam big picture

>>381788119

He turns into a psycho for real though.

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I really want to get 100% on everything before I re-play ending E and delete my save to help other players and all I have left is the fishing log. Has anyone else gotten this? I'm at around 60% now but I go to the locations of the fish I'm missing and just catch the same shit over and over, is there some sort of trick?

>>381788659
Didn't bother trying to complete fishing. Just a lot of luck involved.

>>381788631
Yeah, but it's boring to watch.

It really was something special

If Nier Automata had come out in 2014-16 people would have been abuzz about it for the full year. But it dropped in a fucking great year like 2017 so it's just one of many greats this year

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>mfw I went through ending E one minute ago.
Thanks to the guys who made it possible, I'll join you after I'm done with emil and the dlc.

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>>381770379
I'm so dogshit at bosses, and I fucking hate it. Why do they respawn you with all of your items used up? Why do they make you fucking corpse run when picking up your chips renders you vulnerable for X seconds?
The "right" move if you die to a boss is to just Alt + F4 and run back, which is tedious as fuck.

>>381788119

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Personally I found it quite amusing and simultaneously awful that the plucky, cheerful character is harboring the most hatred deep inside.

Maybe I haven't played enough story driven games, as I usually play Metroid and other similar silent protagonist, exploration heavy games, so I didn't find Automata as cliche as some other people do. It reminded me of the wackiest animes where you just sit back, dont ask questions and get lost in a strange world. I also found the gameplay to be fun which made unraveling more of the wacky anime plot to be enjoyable to me. Nier:A certainly has its weak points like reuse of enemies and areas due to low budget, but overall I found it to be quite the ride. A video game that isn't afraid to be a video game, and tell the story it wants in a creative and fun way.

>>381788410
t. cuck

>hard is too hard
>normal is too easy
EVERY TIME

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>>381789292
T-take that back!

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all the people who were trash talking about this game because muh reviews muh opinions from /v/ now you see it for yourselvesretards this is potential GOTY faggots.

>>381789302
hard with a max health chip is the best difficulty

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>>381789483
fuck you

>>381772913
too bad you're never fighting 1 high health enemy to style on. it's always swarms of fodder

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>>381788840
Godspeed anon.

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>>381788770
Dunno how someone can find that boring, from the point in which he enters in the last tower it was basically a trip in hell, A2 reveling that he already knew what was going on basically meant that he went through that crazy shit many other times. Couldn't even blame him for basically being the final boss that killed A2 and almost ruined everything .

>>381788181
>>381788484
Hmm? Is this an issue specific to Nier? I've played everything on borderless fullscreen and every time i've had to use DS4Windows and the game hasn't outright refused to work with it it's worked fine.
>>381788386
Thanks!

>>381790394

He's never actually gotten that far.

Finished the whole game with a very underpowered gpu (hd 5700).
Used FAR, set priority to heighest and did the every other cpu core affinity thing.

Had to play on 720p with everything on lowest but game didn't lag.

>>381789287
I just couldn't get involved in Automata's main story. I wish I could've, but something about it kept me at a distance. I liked a lot of the side-quest stories though.

>>381788847

Are you playing on Hard?

If you are, I recommend speccing lifesteal chips and melee defense against bosses. Staying at full HP so you don't get OHKO is vital.

If a boss hands your ass to you too many times, don't be ashamed to turn it down to Normal to get by. The bosses have patterns to their attacks that are easy to dodge when you have learned them, but going into a boss on Hard blind, you will probably die a few times.

If you think this game is bullshit, never try Dark Souls. Now there is a game where they will make you replay 20 minutes of gameplay to get back to the boss who kills you in one hit. Fuck.

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>some people still try to compare it with the bayo and the other classic platinum games.
I know that most of you are just shitposing, but should it be beyond obvious that they are completely different genres? A fair comparison would be with Berseria and other standard ajrp, not with fucking character action games.

>>381791430
I've beaten Dark Souls at SL 1. The way Nier does it is just a little more tedious, with the game sapping away at your items and basically forcing you to retrieve your body.

I like the game, but the design is a little grating. Especially when you have to sit through the "story" components every single time.

It's servicable but fluid gameplay. Importantly it's satisfying. Not every game needs to have the depth and breadth of combat of a Bayonetta or Dark Souls (lit git gud braise le sun xD)

People liked it for the sheer surreality of the world and the story.

>>381791609
shouldn't* it be beyond obvious

>>381770379
It is. Don't listen to the shitposting brigade. Best game of this decade by a signifficant margin.

>>381791430
>don't be ashamed to turn it down to Normal to get by

you millennials truly feel no shame

>>381791942

Considering we had a thread about someone dropping it because they died it the tutorial, it's legitimate advice.

>>381792273
so there's no shame in genuinely giving up at a fucking tutorial? i want to get off this ride

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I'm tired of discussing this game 24 hours but I still hate that 9s and 2bfag

>>381792420

Yeah, nobody actually cares about your e-peen.

>>381791942

I was born in 1990, does that make me a millennial?

Some of the bosses in this game are bullshit on Hard if it is your first time playing, lets be honest. Eve in particular can OHKO you with many of his attacks and its so hard to see with the sandstorm going that a first time player is going to get hit.

I grew up playing Nintendo hard games, don't try and play the age card on me. Fact is there are a couple boss fights in this game that will frustrate new players if they get killed in one hit over and over.

>>381792420
Tutorial on hard is indeed a bit unfair.

It was probably one of Taro's pranks. He likes to fuck with people and reviewers. The tutorial does feel like you're supposed to play on Normal and humble your ass.

>>381792273
That guy clearly didn't play the game though.

>>381792420
Jesus anon, go to be that obnoxious in a dank soul thread. And it's a platinum game, hard mode isn't first playthrough friendly in the first place.

>>381792863
so is that a problem with the game or with the people playing it?

>>381792863
>I was born in 1990, does that make me a millennial?
it sure does

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>>381792273
>>381792872
That faggot who said he got "stunlocked for 2 straight minutes by 2 wheels" on normal? It was funny, but he couldn't have actually played the game.

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>Gamescum or TGS
>Now on the PC and Ps4
>Drakengard 3 + Nier remastered
>yfw

>>381791918
Impressed by your irreparably shitty taste.

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>Start my second playthrough
>Accidentally ending G
What the fuck

>>381793265
Yeah, that one was a faggot.

lmao git gut praise le sun :PPPPP

us sunbros? git gud right?

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>>381793434

the joke endings are great

>>381793434
That was my first of the joke endings. Got a good laugh out of me.

>>381793434
same, it was pretty good. I regret grinding the endings at the end because they weren't as surprising/funny.

>>381770379
Gameplay was pretty fun, art direction was interesting.

I'm honestly not sure why people love the story so much though. I've played Drakengard and the first Nier, and it still just felt like the story in this one was just a vehicle for the gameplay. I had a hard time connecting to the characters and didn't really feel anything in regards to their romance.

Still an excellent game, but I do think it's becoming a bit overrated

>>381777620

It's a pod program (Wire IIRC).

>>381794939

How exactly is it overrated if you're saying its excellent? Is it not worthy of the praise it's receiving?

>>381795237
It's excellent, just not for the reasons people say it is. They act like it's story defies the medium and redefines video game storytelling when it's really just another vague, disjointed Taro game. There is nothing revolutionary about the storytelling in this game.

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>>381793328

I'd love for them to give 3 some gameplay polish.

I really liked how the weapon swapping worked it's just that everything thing else about it was a dumpster fire.

I also feel that D3 was the least played by all people (especially to completion), and it being the one to have a super blatant connection to Nier and Automata stuff (Accord) makes me think more people should have the opportunity to play it.

>>381795790
Not him, but that's about par for the course. The Last of Us didn't have much going for it but the story that was serviceable yet safe, but Naughty Dog's rep elevated it.

>>381795790

Oh, never heard that before. Probably people who's first Taro game is Automata.

>Dragon boss fight with Inuart in Drakengard
>He starts chanting Furiae's name in a really weird way
> fu - re - uh - fu - re - uh - fu - fu - f....
>Wonder why the fuck he does this for years after finishing the game
>Just now realizing that he was trying to sing her name, but since he sacrificed his "song" to form a pact with the dragon, it just comes out as a broken chant.

If Taro actually intended this he's a genius

>>381796128
Honestly I think that game turned a lot of people off within the first 2 hours. I love Taro and his games, but Drakengard 3 is fucking annoying for the first 2 hours. It's nothing but non-stop shitty forced puns about dicks, balls, sex, boobs, gore, ect. Not to mention the plot makes little sense and the gameplay isn't great.

Once you get to the part where she turns the disciples back into their original forms, the story really starts to pick up. I thought the stuff with Accord was absolutely fascinating, the way she seems to be puppeteer everything on behalf of some mysterious organization to ensure the best possible outcome.

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>>381796580

Oh shit, that's pretty cool.

I have something like that of my own, where either Taro is pretty smart about some shit or just REALLY good/lucky about pulling shit out of his ass.

One of the first things Weiss says is "blood is sound, sounds are words, and words are power" which not only plays into all of the stat-alterning words you can find in Nier (while sucking up the BLOOD of shades, which makes a sound like garbled words), but also the blood=Intoner magic=singing stuff in D3.

>>381796940

I liked it, but I'm also the sort who thinks a lot of j/rpgs have failed to include what is essentially meaningless party banter, which I consider something necessary for me to get into the not-gameplay parts of a game.

But I see your point and do agree. Plus the whole "getting to ending A and thinking it's over" thing that has put people off his games before.

>>381771739
I watched a friend play. I thought the world looked really cool. But the enemies are definitely lacking variety.

>>381771191
Yoko Taro.

>>381797180
In regards to that "Blood is sound" stuff, scientist actually discovered that DNA has a harmonic frequency. Not sure if it has anything to do with it but it's just what came to mind.

>>381797180
I do not understand that image.

>>381797456
See this is exactly why I have no desire to revisit the first Nier.

Shades were shitty enemies before. They're even shttier now that I know what they are

>>381772984
>wanna play Drakengard 3
>PS3 only

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>>381794223
The only one I found naturally on my first playthrough was death by fish.

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>>381797758

Armaros fight.

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>>381796940
Yeah, the gameplay and framerate issues were rough, but it was the character writing and awkward attempts at comedy that made D3 hard to get through for me.

The tragic highlander premise had a lot of potential, but it felt more like a parody of Drakengard 1 than a successor.

I deleted my save file and only slightly regret it.

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>>381793434
>>381793975
U is by far my favorite joke ending

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>>381791349
I think It's a really unconventional story for vidya standards and many people saw it from point of views because of that.
For example there is no hero journey, actually the is no hero at all, the only character who got an actual heroic role got it in a not canon ending, or how the the edge isn't the actual edge of twisted personalities, it's sheer desperation of feeling completely lost, empty, and meaningless. The actual character driven contents got put in the side events and materials, leaving in the game only hints and the direct solution of what was going on, causing this kind >>381794939 of reaction.
It starts from "the world is tumbling down but the glory of mankind is still alive and will save it from the warmongering aliens thanks to its glorious proxy", but the truth is that the world already tumbled down, leaving an oppressive, melancholy vibe. The actual story uses induvidel chracters and existences but use them to talk a lot about the 2 races, androids and machines, sad children without any parents, the abandoned scraps of humanity and of an alien race, and what are are able and unable to do about and in a world that tumbled down. Most of the twists of the story were related to that (like the fact that machines can't learn, which has a fuckton of implication), the fact the overwhelming majority of the people who bitch about the story only talk about the lack of character driven shows that they didn't pay attention to the rest. But even in the final 9S Vs A2 confrontation there were lines like "even if I know the truth I still long for humanity", and the whole ending D was about the conclusion of the sci-fi plot, with 9S that curses the YoHRa androids existence and and new hope for a new kind of evolution in another planet gave by a being that is made by both the craps of both race.

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>>381799621

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>>381799621
Yeah, I'd either give it to that one or the one where 2B just buggers off to become an AWOL fisherman.

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>>381799708
and many people saw it from wrong* point of views because of that.

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>>381793975
>Ending S
>No joke, just leaving Devola and Popola to die
I didn't ask for this.

>>381799708
cont.

Then ending E masterfully put together everything, themes, sci-fi, personal drama.
What we saw was the utter failure of both races, androids and machines, and the complete victory of the being who is both a machine and the ghost of humanity but at the same time doesn't actually belong to either. But that failure led to another kind of evolution, of a "race" that wasn't even taken into consideration by anyone, the evolution of two little observers who were being fed by the same events the played watched, the implications there go both into the plot and full meta, which was masterfully used for the final "boss".
It was thanks to those failures the YoHRa android race that "doesn't deserve to be loved by this world" got a second chance.

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>>381800123
I wish in the ending in which you keep fighting with them there were some extra scenes and dialogue instead of "they died, the end".

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>>381802403
>9S kept fighting long after he was expected to stop
>It was far too late to stop.
>No one stops

>>381770379
maybe if you're a fagboi

>>381801470
It's interesting to note that if you count side materials into discussion, it was Number 9 who gave N2 direct access to all android data via backdoor which in result massively kickstarted N2 evolution and allowed it to evolve to a point it took off the planet. It's a failure in his way of thinking (as he still considered machines to be untermensch compared to androids, unable to learn and evolve) which in the end surprisingly gave the setting a second chance with a fairly peaceful next 500 years.

>>381780481
If these are her actual characteristics then it's equal as an negative perspective of her character and I hate this kind of person. She's selfish and all of her actions makes it look like she's not but she is

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>>381801470
To add one last thing, you >>381791349 said that you liked the the side-quest stories, but most of the interesting ones were complementary with the main plot in the sense that they were there to characterize the two races instead of strictly telling stories about individual characters (the fact that they are nameless also helps that), like the 2 stories about suicidal machines and the ones about the machines or the ones about the memory deletion fuckery of the androids, for example.
I seriously think that you should replay the game looking at the story from the point of view I tried to explain, I believe that if you liked the side quests' stories the main story told by this game is definitely your cup of tea.
For the character driven materials, part of the ones that weren't put in the game and were used for other events can be found here
http://nier.alwaysdata.net/index.html

>>381770379
torrent where

>>381777901
>I NEED TO POST THAT CUTE 2B AND 9S PICK ANS SPOIL IT
>ALSO A2 IS JUST A BITCH NO ONE LIKES HER LOL
that's you

>>381777901
>It was pretty obvious right from the start 2B didn't have any personal grudge against machines, and that A2 did.
So is A2 before pearl harbor.

>>381803521
The no one stops line, the library, Kaine's shack etc.
Those who didn't play Nier are missing out of so much.

>>381807854
I agree, the first game is very central to understanding a lot of Automata

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>>381807854
>finding Fyra's wedding mask

>>381807854
I have a ps3, but after the "we have aggressive plans for the west pc fanbase" I'm hoping for Replicant translated on PC so I can keep ignoring Gestalt's existence.
Out of curiosity, the xbots say that the 360 version is better, in what way?

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>>381809293
>ignoring Gestalt's existence.
Never.

>>381809293
Replicant is for degenerates.

>>381809293
t. the dude who claims jap VAs are better than dub overall

>>381770379
I died in the tutorial level twice and kept having to restart from the beginning. I was about to pass the two hour mark so I just refunded it.

>>381810403
You knew that you can change the difficulty mode in the menu whenever you want, right?

>>381770379
your opinion is wrong

>>381810403
good for you

>>381810403
I don't want to sound like a dick, but why do I keep hearing about people dying on the tutorial? Are they all just playing on Hard or Very Hard? Because I thought I was doing terribly when I first started the game, but I still got through without dying in the factory.

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>>381811563
It's the new casual filter

>>381811563
I think half of the posts complaining about it are just bait. It's pretty hard to die at the start with auto-heal on.

>>381811563

I died on the normal tutorial because I didn't realize how lenient the dodge button was going to be. It's not like it was hard to shoot back on through it though. I was properly embarrassed at myself and went on.

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>>381811610
>7E
Now what's her story?

>>381811563
In hard it's pretty unforgiving for first playthroughs.

>>381809293
Gestalt is better, and by aggressive plans they may not be referring just to NieR but other franchises as well

>>381811563
>Are they all just playing on Hard or Very Hard?
Yes. Welcome to /v/, where too many people try too hard, in this case both metaphorically and literally.

>>381811846
No one left behind, if you know what I mean.

>>381811563
I died to the robot fight at the end, but it never did any attack other than the bullet hell one and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing and kept jumping into the bullets. The other times I've fought that boss it hasn't done that attack again even once. I didn't die throughout the rest of the game.

>>381770379
>>381770379
Should I continue this game? It's been pretty boring to me so far.

I dont even bother to change weapons because it seems like the first kataka is the best. Nearly all the quests are fetch quests, enemy variety sucks, etc. I just got to the part where adam and eve tell you about the aliens getting killed by machines and feel clocked out. I have been doing a good amount of sidequests. Should I just completely stop and go for the main missions?

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>>381811846

One of the sidequests is finding out one of the other units in that pic had plans to defect, so the E unit was probably there to kill her if she did.

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>A2 cuts her hair off before you even get to play as her
>you have to pay real money to get the DLC to get the wig item if you want it back

Can someone "take care" of Square Enix please?

>>381772234
>story
>You get solid build-up in the two first routes, but the payoff is ultimately rushed and shallow, depending on secondary sources to appear meaningful. And screams of budget issues.
I'm with you only on this, your 2 other points are complete bullshit, especially the quests one.

>>381812276
>I dont even bother to change weapons because it seems like the first kataka is the best.
Different type of weapons mean different movesets, of fucking course you should try them.

>Should I just completely stop and go for the main missions?
Sure, you can complete them later if you want, there is a chapter selection menu after you finish the game.

>>381812715
you get A2's wig by beating ending C or D doe

>>381812715
>you have to pay real money to get the DLC to get the wig item if you want it back
But that's wrong.
The whole game has themes of switching consciousness between bodies, you were 2B, now you're A2. The hair cutting symbolizes that, even if it was an awkward anime cliche moment.

>>381812715
You don't need DLC for the wig buddy

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>>381812276
If you absolutely hate it I don't know if the rest of the game will change your mind, but I found things a tad underwhelming until I got to the real meat of the final story route.

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>>381812538
Mission success I guess.

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>get to Copied City
>cant beat faggot boss
>quit and go back to Overwatch and Souls shit

no fucks given. The boss fights in this game are a total cancerous pain in the ass and hands down the worst part of this game

>>381812538
Oh, right, 11B, the lesbo one.

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>>381814007
>Overwatch

>>381813241
Same here. It recontextualizes everything.
It even makes the A/B ending cutscene somewhat poignant in retrospect, instead of weirdly melodramatic and empty.

>>381814007
How can you live with yourself being this much of a shitter?

>>381814397

by playing games that actually focus on gameplay and boss fights that dont have Shonenshit dialogue scattered in

>>381814397
By beating Dark Souls many times.

>>381814007
I actually learned his patterns and fucking destroyed him even though he's always one hit away of obliterating me

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why my swords now launch this fucking wind shit?
what did I do?
im too overpowered now

>>381814852
It's the Shockwave chip

>>381814852
You installed a shockwave chip, dumbass.

>>381814719
He's right, you know, trying to belittle the game isn't going to make you look better.

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>>381814234
Yeah, it's kind of a recurring thing in Taro games that it's hard to recommend the most interesting aspects of the story without spoiling everything about it.

>>381815073
DoD3 was trash throughout, though

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FUCK

>>381815226
Treat it as black comedy.

>>381814920
>>381814949
I didnt install that shit.
I installed the chip that heals you everytime you kill something. Thats too fucking OP

>>381815301
Freaking neat.

>>381815059

sorry, facing 3-4 bosses in a row that can OHKO me in 3-4 different ways just wears me down and makes me not want to play the game. Which is a shame, because Ive enjoyed the hell out of this game with the exception of these Adam/Adam & Eve boss fights. Its charming as hell, and I love the atmosphere, NPC dialogue and music. Idk when I will ever put it back in again

>>381815406
You probably retrieved a body then, they give you temporary effects.

>>381815465
The Alien ship fight is actually timed, you just wait for their dialogue to run out. So just mash dodge and you're good to go.

>>381814007
>Go to Copied City
>Can't believe how easy this boss was.

Really?

>>381815465
Jesus, read these
>>381810565
>>381793076
>>381812002
I swear, you people are a bunch of tryhard masochists.

>>381815756
This, what the fuck?
Was I too over-leveled?

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>>381815226
Yeah, I find D3 harder to defend.

Outside of Two, Cent, and maybe One, I found everyone pretty grating from start to finish.

>>381815961
Am I the only one who liked Mikhail? I thought he was cute.

>>381815406
> Thats too fucking OP
That's most chips in the game. It's fucking ridiculous how broken a set-up you can get.

gotta hand it to them - it's my first foray in philosophy and I can't say I understand all what's going on but it's some deep level shit and my teacher is constantly amazed by the stuff I come out with.. thanks to this game

>>381816108

The very first scene outside Zero's hut ruined him. Without that he would have been cute.

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>>381815961

I loved everybody, but D3 is just very hard to recommend to anybody.

"it's fucking garbage but if it's the kind of garbage you love you'll love it"

Decadus was on to something, I think...

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>>381815961
Octa's novel is Taro at his finest.

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>>381816108
I kind of liked the idea of Mikhail, being a young innocent child forced into be a war machine.

But the piss jokes, slapstick humor, and way that he never calls out Zero on any of her shit kind of ruined him for me.

Made me miss Angelus's intelligent cynicism.

>>381816750

Mikhail could have been played straight and he still wouldn't have been nearly as good as Big Red.

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>>381816750
Honestly Taro's more restrained stuff is way better than outright edgy and tasteless.

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>>381816545

Octa is so damn cute.

>>381817241
People like to meme on about Caim being a psycho, but honestly he's a lot more restrained then I was expecting. Also he has never killed an innocent.

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>>381815301
>9sfags think their GOD can do this
Just watch..

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>>381816345
Yeah, humor's definitely subjective.

But I was more of a fan of Taro's humor in Nier. I can't really remember anything about Decadus's character outside of him moaning about masochism every two lines.

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>>381817594
Caim really liked his job. But he did have standards in regards to whom he was mass murdering.

I have a lot of questions about mainly the machines.

1. How was Adam conceived and then how was Eve conceived afterwards?
2. Is there an explanation for why Eve turns back in appearance?
3. How come there's such a discrepancy in machine design? You have machines like Stubbies and Bipeds, Goliath Bipeds, and even Engels that have this rugged, industrial appearance, but then you have machines like the Boku-Shi and Grun that look straight up Alien.

>>381815301
nothing personal...... kid

>>381817594
>>381818098
He killed kids that were FORCED into service or else they'd probably be killed. When they begged for their lives and tried to get away, Caim slaughtered them all. If standards mean, "Kill literally anyone who has any affiliation with the empire," then yes.

>>381818137
>1. How was Adam conceived and then how was Eve conceived afterwards?
Machines were analysing broken androids you can find near their birthplace and produced most humalike machines possible by assembling a mini-factory by linking to each other as inside they are very complicated beings.
Eve's birth is just a religious throwbacks as machiens were re-enacting Bible.
>2. Is there an explanation for why Eve turns back in appearance?
They found the info about Watchers and Legion, his tattoo is attempt to copy them.
>3. How come there's such a discrepancy in machine design? You have machines like Stubbies and Bipeds, Goliath Bipeds, and even Engels that have this rugged, industrial appearance, but then you have machines like the Boku-Shi and Grun that look straight up Alien.
All the most alien machines are the strongest ones. They are big guns only brought in case machine network decides to be serious for a change. Stubbies and other simple robots are designed to be weak so they wouldn't wipe out the androids completely.

Besides, all -Shi bots are related to major hubs of machine network as Eve emerges from Boku-Shi which means it was something akin to his guardian and So-Shi/Ro-Shi are the final line of Tower defence and most likely hubs of Terminal Alpha/Beta aka N2.

>>381785885
Yeah, and it has bad gameplay

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>>381818137
>How was Adam conceived
This cannot continue. i.e. the endless conflict with the androids.

So the machines basically melded together to form a miniature molten factory, emulating humanity at the apex of their evolution to create the most advanced form they could muster in a supposed attempt to fight back.

> Is there an explanation for why Eve turns back in appearance?
The reason Eve has a spreading tattoo of the cult of the Watchers is kind of left up in the air. Adam apparently had him get it to emulate an important symbol from humanity's past, but the only one who had access to the world that the cult symbol came from is Accord.

So she might have brought information over from Drakengard's world and the machine network absorbed it at some point while learning about humanity.

>How come there's such a discrepancy in machine design?
Different machines subjected to different elements of evolution and/or being developed for different purposes.

>>381770379
I really wish I could like this game
I had such high hopes for it but then it peaked completely 3 hours in.

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>>381817241
Anyone got like a gif of them falling

>>381818943
Umm no sweetie
See here >>381815301

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>>381818662
That was kind of a kill or be killed scenario. When Leonard tried to show a child soldier mercy it turned out he was already possessed by demons and/or Watcher magic.

Though there are several instances where it's implied that Caim keeps fighting and pursuing the enemy beyond what's necessary.

Post 2b lewds

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>>381818137
Boku-Shi and the other balls machines looked like directly built and controlled by the red girls, while the others were the original models designed by the aliens, I guess.

>>381819302
>punching bag enemies that do jack shit while you mindlessly combo different attacks together that look flashy instead of actually needing any skill
Shit like that is no indication of good gameplay, fucking lmao
Same thing with DMC4, you can have your le ebin cool combos all you want but you're still doing them on hopeless punching bag enemies that can't defend themselves worth a shit. Its just boring.

>>381819302

But that proves me right?

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>>381819668

>Shitty character action game that's boring as hell but gets a pass because of robot waifus and Yoko Taro silliness
The word you want is "overrated," not "spectacular."

>>381770379
GOTY for me. All crashes are fixable.

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>>381819683
Wasn't it implied somewhere that they started modeling themselves after Emil when they saw what a superweapon he was?

>>381820952
>character action game
You are a fucking idiot.

>>381821481
>its totally an rpg because it has a leveling system that does nothing and """"quests"""" that are 99% fetching rusty nuts and bolts
Fuck off

>>381821698
Actually, the leveling system does do something. It breaks the game.

>>381819696
They literally do defend themselves. Obviously one medium biped can be a punching bag, like how any one enemy in an action game can be a punching bag. That webm is just trying to demonstrate potential combos. In encounters with multiple enemies you have literally flurries of bullets being hurled at you, forcing you to carefully consider your movement, andd enemies of different varieties attacking you from every direction. Some have shields to block your ranged attacks, some use EMP aoe attacks to discourage you from attacking head on etc. The game constantly encourages you to change playstyles and play stylishly.

>>381821698
>it has a leveling system that does nothing
What? Are you ok anon?
> """"quests"""" that are 99% fetching rusty nuts and bolts
You are right, rpg usually don't have fetch quests.

>>381821698
It's an RPG because Taro said so, because he knows that it sucks ass as anything else

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>>381822091
>that miqote
fucking
want

>>381818137
>How come there's such a discrepancy in machine design?

Because there was.
I'm not fully up to date on nier lore but I imagine Grun was of alien decent. Stubbies & etc I guess were machine network built using 'human' factories.
The -shi's origins are a bit more interesting if it has relations to the novella 'The Flame of Prometheus' in which Beepy journey's out of the junk heap mountain had him adding and replacing machine parts to his body. By the time he, and other machines he had converted, reached the surface they were all spherical as it was deemed the most optimal form.

>>381819683
So/Boku probably belong to Adam/Eve as their primary designation is being a big machine network hub.
Ko/Ro are obviously Red Girls. Also suits the whole theme of internal conflict within network when they start fighting as one wants to destroy androids and another to keep them alive, and balls are white/black.