Sonic Mania

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13280012

Take your pick. I want shit levels remade just to hear Tee Lopes amazing soundtrack, god fucking damn it Aquatic Zone.

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Shoutout to the fucking crazy anon who made this. God damn I want Marble Zone to get MANIA'D so hard.

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God tier anons who keep updating this.

>Post yfw both Sky Sanctuary and Stardust are in
>Sky Sanctuary is exclusive to Knuckles instead of Death Egg for Sonic and Tails
>Sky Sanctuary functions as a level with wind ducts, and a boss rush of every Egg Robo
>Eventually reach the master emerald
>Fucking Mecha Sonic just appears from the ground, already defeated years before, rusted
>Breaks the master emerald, absorbs it's power
>FIGHT A PERMANENTLY SUPER MECHA SONIC

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>>381759413
How does one kill, which cannot die?

YFW Sonic/Tails/Sonic fuse into a new form, Fusion Form and go full fanfiction to defeat him.

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>>381758526
Don't forget this image that basically accompanies that one.

Haven't bought a game in years, preordered this, hoping for the best.

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Never been so excited to see a god damn cutscene in my life, I need to see the intro and outro of mania and hear what music they use.

>>381761965
Good thing about this kind of game, is that you're getting what you see, it's fucking sonic but on steroids and amazing

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>>381761974
>This art style was never used for anything but CD and the OVA

Thank God Mania's bringing it back. It's the best animated Sonic we've ever gotten

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>>381762184
look how fucking cute he is, and he fucking knows it the blue little SHIT

>>381758369
God DAMN that's good.

>>381758369
>i hate it when they rehash greenhill zone :(((

Shhh now child, everything will be okay

>>381758369
Do you have this in higher res?

>people begging Whitehead and team for a demo
>Team replies with it will take development time away from the actual game, and we want to work hard on he game so it is perfected
>People complain

people are so used to devs who don't actually care for the shit they're putting out, this is obviously a passion project with more love then anything that has came out in video games for the past 10 years

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFtuOKomaM0

So how about that updated Studiopolis?

>>381766259
I dig how it was touched up a bit, I honestly didn't think Tee could make it sound any better. That being said I'm hell of a lot more impressed by Mirage Saloon Act.2's song being updated, I really enjoyed the original but he made that one feel so revamped & improved. I wish there was a clean rip of it.

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>>381766259
fuck me boys now that is /comfy/.

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>>381766259
God fucking damn it Tee. Wait, so we haven't heard Studiopolis Act 2 yet?

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>Just realised we're getting a remix of Stardust Speedway Bad/present/Good future by Tee

I'm not even sure if I'm more excited for the music this game will have, or the game itself

>>381767026
I'm afraid not. And seeing how they are pretty much done with reveals till launch, It's hard not to feel pain.

>>381766259
I like what Falk added to it. It's sick how one of the guys behind Before/After The Sequel's soundtrack is actually working on a mainline game's music.

>>381767336
This team making Mania is basically an autistic version of an Avengers team up. It has all the people who have dedicated themselves to each part of a Sonic game, the designers the music, the artstyle, everything is hand picked fans who just love Sonic.

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>>381767194
I'm hurt I won't hear it, but excited to hear it when we actually get the damn game. Imagine the boss music to Studiopolis. The boss for Studio is in the preorder trailer briefly, you know it is going to be fucking insane based just off that 2 second shot.

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>>381767454
Sounds like a passion project to me.

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really made me think

Forces will still outsell Mania, god damn it.

>Never been a Sonic fan
>Never disliked Genesis Sonic games just never really had a Genesis to really enjoy them as others did
>3D always looked like it played like shit so I never cared to even touch them
>Actually getting excited about Mania
Actually hopeful for a Sonic game and feels weird.

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>>381758198

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T O P H A T
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Give me that fucking new magic theme/casino level, FUCK. Imagine the music, it is going to be GOD tier.

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>>381758278
H Y D R O C I T Y Z O N E
So how do you anons pronounce it; hydro-city or high-draw-city?

>>381769983
replayed sonic 3 the other day, it really is one of the best designed levels

>>381769983
Great tastes, that zone is really the 1 zone I'm begging for out of any of them, I hope it returns. Also Hydro-city for me.

What are you hoping the special stage is? Rank the 3 Genesis ones.
2>1>3

>>381769983
It's a mix of Hydro and Velocity.
So Hydr-ositee.

>>381770503
I hope its none of them, each special stage is all aids

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>>381770503
I hope it's done in the Saturn version of 3D Blast's special stages' style. Since they're going for the Saturn vibe and all, it'd be perfect to have low poly Sonic and friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np76lPXKfCo

Dunno if I necessarily want the half pipe since it's been done to death, though.

>>381770503
I want the special stage to something new & uses the Sonic Jam kind of 3D models.

3=CD>1>>>>>2
I fucking hate 2's special stages, they're dull as fuck & just a minute or 2 of going left & right with no way to control how fast you complete them.

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>>381770706
that fucking music, and then remixed be falk and tee

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>>381770590
>It's a mix of Hydro and Velocity.
Where are you getting that impression from? Was it officially stated by a dev somewhere? Because I've never thought of it as anything other than "hydro + city"... because it's an underwater city.

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>>381770706
>half pipe
>AGAIN
Dear God NO.

I really hope there's going to be a non-vinyl soundtrack. I don't think we're retro enough to own record players...

Also I bought the game twice, sorry.

>>381769983
>>381770590
It's Hydro city.

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>>381771069
Yeah, that's why I said I don't necessarily want that type of special stage, just the aesthetic style.

Taxman said the special stage is unlike anything we've seen before, so I have a little faith that they actually got creative with it and did something new. I don't discount Iizuka rearing his ugly head and forcing a half pipe for nostalgia purposes though.

>>381770968
it has to be that way because it justifies my pronunciation :)

>>381770968
Because game is about speed.

>>381770968
>>381770391
This. The Katakana in the Japanese manual confirms it should be pronounced Hydro-City.

>>381767114
I cannot wait to hear a remix of this https://youtu.be/21ZSrPIFETg

>>381771365
That's also why the other stages are called Speed Island, Marble Speed, Speedy Carnival, Ice (Speed) Cap and Rocket Speed Base

>>381770503
Blue orbs > half-pipe (without Tails) > UFOs > spinning maze > half-pipe (with Tails)
Since this game is supposed to be designed around the Saturn, I'd like some low-poly 3D stuff. Maybe not UFOs 2.0, but something that has you running around a small 3D environment, maybe collecting rings or fighting against Metal Sonic.
>>381770706
Seeing that low-poly Sonic makes me want Sonic R again.

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>>381758198
Underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFpmmDQtn54

Taxman recently mentioned on Retro that he and Stealth originally wanted to release the S1 and 2 ports on console, and bundle a new small game with it. Iizuka instead suggested making a game that has old and new zones.

We could have had the definitive Sonic 1 and 2 versions on Steam/console.

Mania's going to be 10/10 but I can't help but feel a bit salty about this

>>381771587
ohhh das comfy

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>>381771236
>>381771460
Yeah I'm pretty sure "Hydrocity" was a typo that never got fixed. Generations calls it "Hydro City Zone" under the music section.

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>There are people ITT that will play the game in any order except Sonic -> Knuckles -> Tails
First Sonic for playing the game in the intended true way, then Knuckles for the alternate routes, then Tails for easy mode and breaking/exploring the levels in new ways.

>>381771735
New game with new zones+remixed old zones(with new bosses, layouts and gimmicks)>>>New small game+definitive versions of the old games bundled in

>>381758198
>>381766848
>>381771817
There's that word again.

>>381772650
What's wrong with it?

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>>381772650

>>381772650
What is wrong with being comfy? Don't you ever feel that way, anon?

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>>381772703
It's a "meme word" which ultimately just means that it annoys some autists on /v/. Nothing wrong with it when it's used in the correct context. Watch out though, our contrarian friend here is probably about to bully us with greentext and maybe even a smug anime picture if he's feeling particularly nasty.

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>>381773017

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I've been thinking about the old sonic games lately.

Sonic 1 is far from perfect but I enjoy it overall. Labyrinth Zone is some bullshit at times but aside from that I can't really think of anything in 1 that I actively hate.

I don't think I've ever actually finished Sonic 2 and I can't say I want to. When I was a kid I was a dumbass that couldn't get past chemical plant but as an adult I just fucking despise Oil Ocean. I dont' know what it is, maybe it's just a mental block or something, but every time I get to that level I just don't wanna play anymore. Even when I just use level select I don't get much farther since Metropolis isn't any better. Up until then I'd say 2's better than 1 but I mean shit man I'd rather have 5/6ths of a good game than 3/5ths of a great one.

Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles are just amazing all around. Only real gripe is Sandopolis and that's just more boring rather than outright bad compared to my issues with the previous two. I think Launch Base is underrated as fuck on the whole as well.

Sonic CD's my favorite though. I dunno what it is but something about it just clicks with me. I used to hate Wacky Workbench but now I don't know, I kinda dig it honestly. Not as much as the other levels but still. I'd play it over Oil Ocean any day of the week.

>>381765868

I'd love a demo but I'd love to not have dataminers spoil what's left of the game even more. Hell i'm upset that they already revealed things like the green hill boss. Can you imagine how sick that shit would be if nobody knew going in?

>>381770503
3>1>2

>>381773447
The bosses are only gonna escalate from there, wait till you see the Chemical Plant boss, if you haven't spoiled yourself with it yet.

>>381773792
WAIT

what?

Chemical Plant Boss is leaked? I missed that one

>>381774076
Allegedly it plays like a game of Mean Bean Machine/ Puyo Puyo.

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>>381774179
Why spoil it, m8?

>>381773324
I feel you on Sonic 2, it drags a little at the end. e Especially metropolis zone right after oil ocean, that may have the worst enemies in any sonic game, the green grass hopper throwing metal arm things, it is just a terrible level. Also metal sonic and then right into the final boss with zero rings is hard as fuck

>>381769983
It's a city of water
Hydro City

>>381774267
In my defense, I'm not the first person to bring it up in these kinds of threads. But I apologize anyway.

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I just pre-ordered the collector's edition for the Switch that I'm not buying until the Fall

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>>381775336
I pre-ordered the collector's edition for the PS4 which I don't own, fuck you SoE for not giving us the option for the PC version. Doesn't matter much because a friend agreed to buy the code off of me and I already have the Steam version anyway. Have the rest of you done your part yet?

/v/, help

Just as you start the first level of sonic and knuckles 3, look right up, there is a platform above with a yellow spring on it

HOW THE FUCK, do you get there? the mushrooms don't send you high enough, I honestly have no fucking clue

>>381771735
Well who says it means it'll never happen? Maybe they wanna wait till development on Mania is done before they worry about the porting job.

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>>381775667
>sonic and knuckles 3
>first level
>mushrooms

>>381775659
What are /v/'s thoughts on Sonic CD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bN8JBwk_s
Get Funky! Be Funky! Get Funky! Yo! Hustle Hustle!

Post good music

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>>381775659
For Sure.

>>381775336
>>381775659
I'm getting the CE for PC due to possible mods but I still plan to buy a Switch version eventually since it sounds like it could be comfy.

>>381775798
You get mixed opinions on it just like most places, personally I enjoy it a lot.

>>381775768
what? the zone is called mushroom hill zone anon

>>381775667
My dude, use momentum and logic.

>>381775798
3&K>2=Taxman CD>1=Original CD

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>>381775659
>>381775336
>pre-ordered on Xbone
>pre-ordered on Steam
>pre-ordered on PS4
>pre-ordered CE on Switch
>gifted here twice
>intent to try before I buy Forces, if at all
I've more than done my part. I just hope Metal Sonic is the boss fight in Stardust Speedway and that there is a good reason for Tails and Knuckles to be collecting those emeralds.

>>381775887
Then what do you mean by sonic and knuckles 3? If it's Sonic 3 & Knuckles then Mushroom Hill's the seventh stage.

>>381776021
>Forces

Are they deliberately releasing games that tribute everything that went right and wrong with the Sonic franchise to make Mania look better by comparison?

I wish that we could do a two player playthrough with sonic and knuckles. Being a second player and being stuck with tails is kind of disappointing.

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>>381776146
I honestly don't know what the fuck Forces is. I think it's more along the lines of.

>They liked Boost right!? Give them boost! Generations and Colors were well regarded! We're doing that! Character creators are in vogue and there's tons of OC's! Give 'em that! Ah shit, they like the resistance freedom fighter stuff from the comics? Why not! Darker tone we hinted at in Adventure and had in Shadow? SURE! ALL OF IT!

Without even trying to focus on making something cohesive or fun in level design in the first place. Which is frustrating because they were so close, Seaside Hill Modern in Generations was a tease at what they could do if they were on the ball and looking at Forces actively annoys me.

>>381775798
Not the best, but very solid. 7/10

>>381775798
level design is sub par

music is ascended god tier we're not worth with our human ears tier

>>381775798
CD is a good game if you like chilling and exploring in your sonic games.
It's the only one I can think of wehre gettitng lost or stuck on the levels is possible.

>>381775798

JP>US

>>381776795
>>381777516
You 2 have perfect tastes, Sonic CD's JP OST gets my dick going no matter what.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcepPj0Ee1k&index=28&list=PLiTEJ3hsQZa5I7FwMpCdMio2Cdwo6GycT

>>381777920
If Hydrocity isn't the Sonic 3 pick i'll be bummed out.

>>381776795
So a Normal Sonic game?

>>381778212
It seems like they're using the same picks from generations.

>>381778212
What if it's one of the multiplayer stages instead?

>>381778359
I don't think so, if the 15 zone theory is true than I think we'll be in gold in terms of variation

>>381778359
But only Sonic & Knuckles got any representation in Generations (that goes for both console/PC versions and the 3DS version), Generations never had a level for Sonic 3. Also Flying Battery wasn't in Generations.

true horrific gaming sins below, beware

I...I go slow. I never go fast in Sonic games, I always pace right inch by inch to make sure I never lose all my rings, I just love collecting as many rings/getting as many lives as I can, I inch forward to make sure I never run into a enemy by mistakeTHEM GOD DAMN GREEN FUCKING GRASS HOPPERS IN SONIC 2 WHO THROW THERE FUCKING BLADESFUCK forgive me father, for I have sinned.

>>381777920
Act 2 theme is so much better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR3Eh_516JQ

>>381778549
>if the 15 zone theory is true
See: >>381758526

>>381778212

I feel like it's a safe bet since all the other levels either overlap with something else they've already shown thematically, suck, or are locked up in MJ music rights issues.

>>381778359

3 didn't have a rep in Generations since it was bundled in with Knuckles, and besides that they used Sky Sanctuary whereas Mania's using Flying Battery.

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>>381778594
>Going slow
[VGN]

I'm still hoping that they're hiding shit from us and one of the "remix" stages is actually a Classic recreation of something from Adventure or Modern era sonic.

>>381758278
It's Marble Garden, not Marble City.

That's by far my favorite Sonic zone though.

>>381778957
They're definitely hiding shit from us. Taxman has acted coy about shit in multiple posts on Sonic Retro and they've basically said they're done revealing shit until release, on top of the minor leak we got on the Chemical Plant boss, i'm betting we're going to see some worthwhile
and unexpected surprises.

>>381778957
It'd be more fitting to take something from the Advance games.

Fuck I'd kill for a remake compilation of the GBA games with expanded field of view.

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What was your first exposure to Sonic? Mine was Sonic Underground, but shortly after that the classic games starting with Sonic 1.

>>381780410

my family got a genesis in 1999 and it came with sonic 2

>>381780410
My older cousin had a Genesis and Sonic 1 and it was one of my very first exposures to video games. Years later I got the Y2K proof PC version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles and played the shit out of it.

>>381780410
I'm late to the game admittedly, I either hopped aboard when Adventure 2 Battle came out or when Mega Collection came out. No regrets were made though, I fucking love Sonic 1-3K so much, Mania is extremely exciting to me.

Reminder that Forces will outsell Mania.

>>381781019
Only because Forces will be physical. How'd they drop the ball this hard?

>>381781019
Please don't remind me of this harsh truth.

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>>381781019

Honestly as long as Mania sells well enough for Sega to let Taxman and co. keep doing their thing that's good enough for me.

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>>381758198
>tfw pre-ordered it for $8 from Nuuvem

>>381781019
Yeah but Mania will be a good game and is guaranteed to be far better received.

>>381781019
This.

>>381781305
>2Dfags actually think this.

>>381781019
>autism creator
>physical release
No shit.

>>381781368
>2Dfags actually think this.
Well, there's already some truth to this: >>381768492

>>381780410
My next door neighbor had Sonic 3 on his Genesis, I don't think he owned any of the other games. Neither of us could ever figure out how to get past that goddamnCarnival Night barrel, so our runs always ended there. At least we were good at speeding through everything before that.

>>381781368
Forces is lazy, doesn't seem to improve on Generations in any meaningful way and the OC creator reeks of desperation to attract the Deviantart audience.

>>381775840
I always liked the US version of Stardust speedway better, both are amazing though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7pK00Us3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYZX74qgFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcR0v6I_w8

Alright, worst sonic level, go. I'll start.

Aquatic Ruin Zone. Much like most terrible levels, god tier music.

YOU KNOW THAT ARROW THAT I JUST SHOT ? THAT IS GOING TO KEEP GOING, AND YOU'LL BE HIT BY IN IT 10 MINUTES, FUCK YOU.

or the fucking sand sniper scorpions in sandopolis, eggmans best fucking invesntion, those fuckers always get me, FUCK

>>381780410
Sonic 3 & knuckles on PC

>>381781683
>HE ACTUALLY PREFERS THE INFERIOR OST
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381781683
If I get Mania, and when I finally get the Stardust, and the tee lopes remix is the fucking US edition

the salt will be unrivalled, I will do a fucking IRL spindash into moving traffic

TEELOPES, REMIX THE JP VERSION YOU FUCK, DON'T BE INFLUENCED. DON'T FUCK AROUND.

>>381781636
>Boost gameplay still relies heavily on 2D shit
>Classic Sonic is utterly pointless because of Mania
>OC looks more like gimped Boost gameplay than anything good
>More fucking Wisps

Forces is probably just gonna be Heroes-tier mediocre but damn it lacks no effort. They're relying so hard on nostalgia pandering that the game that's actual nostalgia pandering is showing it up

>>381781874
>>381781884
Hey, the US OST is actually pretty great. In the case of Stardust I think JP is superior, I agree to that.

So I know Sonic fans are analytical as fuck when it comes to 2D Sonic level design, so I was wondering what you guys think of Mania's. What do you think of this game's level design from what we've seen? Do you think it's on the same level as the classics?

>>381781683
I will say this, the US Good Future music fits the Metal Sonic race wayyyy better than the JP Good Future version does.

>>381781768
Sandopolis always has & always will bore the ever living shit out of me, I mean I guess it's not a bad zone per say but I just wish that zone wasn't a thing in S3&K and they built a zone all around that ghost mechanic in Act.2 since that's the only thing that appeals to me.

Otherwise, I gotta say Metropolis & it's enemy placement is the worst zone I can think of, I don't get what the hell they were thinking with that zone but they can go fuck themselves with it.

>>381781768
Metropolis, Marble Garden, Sandopolis or Labyrinth

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>>381781884
>If I get Mania

>>381782161
These. I think Metropolis is ultimately the worst of the worst though.

>>381781884
What if, and I know that this is a weird one and potentially impossible, but what if...Tee Lopes found a way to remix both tracks into one cohesive track?

>>381781368
AAAAND derailed.

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>>381771587
The god damn Sonic Jam vibes though

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>>381782047
Looking as good as 3&K.

>>381782158
REAL TALK. I'm replaying Sonic and Knux right now, just got to sandopolis, it is shit, but

you know when the second act goes completely dark? that aesthetic is so, so fucking good. shame the god damn ghosts ruin it, the colours look so perfect when it is pitch dark like that

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>>381783068
>mfw I liked all 3 of those but didn't like S3&K

>>381758278

I want Ice Cap zone and Lava Reef zone (ESPECIALLY act 2). Give me that, and I'll have all I need.

>>381783234
I totally agree with that, besides the ghost mechanic appealing to me I always liked that color palette used for when it goes dark. I wish I knew how to skip releasing the ghosts to just keep it dark but I'm not that good to pull it off.

>>381781768
Metropolis. Holy shit what an terribly designed level. I feel like all the normies who say that 2 is the best in the series only played the first few Zones and then quit.

>>381781768
Hill Top Zone because of how boring it is

>>381781884
Hoping they give a choice so no one will bitch. I like both tracks for that stage.

US nails the stardust
JP nails the speedway

With that said for the levels I like the JP soundtrack more, but US for Metal Sonic

Why can't this be on PS3? I keep my PS4 downstairs for after work play and my PS3 upstairs for comfy Sega Mega Drive HD collection play before bed. I want Sonic Mania to be part of my blanket comfiness, not my couch. This has ruined the experience for me I have cancelled two of my pre-orders.

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>>381783782

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>>381783068
>>381783296
>Mfw I liked all four games and 3&K is one of my all time favorites

>>381782257
>>381783782
>he doesn't like having enemies coming out of nowhere and having attacks that will always hit you

>>381784302
Sonic's sprite in 3 was the worst thing about the game. So glad they're going back the the original style

>>381781768
>Sonic 1
Marble Zone- this isn't a mario game get that shit out of here
>Sonic 2
Metropolis Zone- just remember it being tedious
>Sonic 3 & K
Sandopolis- Every time I replay it I either just stop the game their or just want it to end
>Sonic CD
Wacky Work Bench- ironically its the only level I really remember from the last time I played it, but it was terrible with the bouncing floor shit

>>381758198
Man that trailer music is fucking horrendous. I hope its not in the game

>>381780410
Sonic 2 was my first (and probably everyone else's) first game ever.

>>381784302
Why are Tails' tails still question marks?

>>381784650

My first game ever was Sonic 1 on the Master System II. My mom says all I used to do was run left until the first enemy moved into and killed me over and over, but because I was literally two I still had fun.

>>381784606
>>381781768

Each game's water level always ends up being the worst. Labyrinth, Aquatic Ruin, Hydrocity, and Tidal Tempest

>>381784650
My first game was apparently Mario All Stars according to my older cousin but my first memories are either Sonic 1 or Yoshi's Island.

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Daily reminder

Complete Mania, 100% everything, collectibles, secrets, whatever.

4th Character Unlocked! Avatar! Entire Sprite based OC character creator for Mania.

MARK. MY. WORDS.

>>381784868
Hydrocity is one of the best though.

>>381784868

>Tidal Tempest

I have information for big Sonic fans who want to know everything about Sonic. I was playing Sonic CD recently, and went to the past in Tidal Tempest. There is a part of the music from there that is used note for note in one of the battle themes in Sonic Chronicles. I've never seen anyone ever mention this.

>>381784606
>MARBLE ZONE

that hurt me anon, but the music

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>>381782158
>>381782161
>>381783782
>>381784606

*blocks ur path*

>>381784868
Hydrocity is the exception, it is one of the best sonic levels

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>>381785097
TRIGGERED

>>381785037
>>381785132


No, it isn't. It almost ruined Sonic 3 for me

>>381785261
I THANK FAKE GOD above that I don't have opinions THIS shit

>>381783323
>Lava Reef zone (ESPECIALLY act 2)
my nigger

Replaying as an adult, are there any parts you guys still find difficult? I can beat them all without dying, except for the final boss of Sonic 2 which I can't seem to understand the hurt box of.

>>381785354
>I THANK FAKE GOD

This explains so much

>>381785457
don't worry I'll be judged for it when I die anon

>>381785518
Yes, but it also opens a door into the mindset that possesses someone to think Hydrocity was good.

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>>381785097

>>381785518

>tfw my name means god will judge

Just how unpopular is Sonic in Japan anyways? Is he a D lister there or is he just completely unknown?

Because this might explain why Sonic Team is the way it is.

>>381785623
well everybody loves hydro, I don't know what to tell you, i think u need to replay it, its fucking great

>>381784302
>Mania Knuckles isn't smug

DROPPED

>>381785870
UNLIKE SONIC HE DON'T CHUCKLE

>>381777920
>Progressively getting closer to the Death Egg during the whole Zone
I fucking loved the little details like that. I hope Mania has a ton of shit like this.

>>381785785

I don't dislike Hydro City Zone, but I've never understood why everyone loves it. I think it's just another regular zone. Can some anons who love this zone explain to me why they think it's great?

For me for example, I understand a lot of people dislike Carnival Night zone even besides the barrel, but I love it. I like the music and the candy cane colors, and I like bouncing off balloons and shooting out of cannons. I also like the feeling of being very high up when you fight robotnik, because you zoom up through a long tunnel, and then you end up in the only part of the zone without background elements so it feels like you're on the roof.

>>381785097
>>381785246
>>381785626
Asterons are fucking nothing. Slicers on the other hand.

>>381781768
From each game:
>Labyrinth Zone, just fuck it
>Ignoring Sky Chase for being a two minute auto-scroller, Metropolis Zone simply for being a bitch
>I love all of these zones, but Marble Garden might be the weakest overall
>Ignoring Hidden Palace, and again I love these zones, but Sandopolis is the weakest (because of act 2)
>Wacky Workbench; fuck trying to 100% that zone with all that fucking bouncing
Worst zone overall? I'm tempted to say WW, it's just that annoying of a level, but Labyrinth is the classic "oh god not this level" zone of Sonic in my opinion.

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>>381786410
But Anon, look how cute it is!

I hate them too, though.

>>381769024
Looks like we're only getting 5 new zones. What a shame.

>>381786703
you know what I've just realised?

This fucker is the reason for my very first rage quit, I can specifically remember as a kid just going fucking insane for the first time and being FUCK IT, JUST FUCK IT etc

>>381784302
Why is Knuckles always pink in the classic games?

Man I'm going to love drinking up all the tears after this game turns out to be shit.

>>381786410
They can fuck off as well, 9 times out of 10 those fuckers fling blades at me just as they come on screen while i'm bouncing off the wall. Fuckers.

>>381786859
this isn't a Forces thread anon

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>>381785097
>>381786703
Hey bro! Did you just climb up that long vertical shaft? Too bad, let me punch your skull in, causing you to lose 20 seconds and all your rings? I'll see you at the next vertical shaft! And the one after that! And the one after that! And the one after that! And the one after that! And the one after that!

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Alright you blasted blue hedgehogs, post best common Badniks.

>>381786795
I don't think I even remember getting past Metropolis as a kid.
>>381786979
But these things. Fuck these robotic Kingler looking motherfuckers

>>381786859
refer to this
>>381768492

>>381787210
I want to have this as a pet, and it just requires love to survive

>>381786265
I like it since it's a high speed water level where you burst out of walls, go up high ramps out of the water (and if you're good enough it'll net you a special stage), have to ride fans to go upward in the level and run over water by going down ramps. Basically it's pretty fun and I think it's the first water level where I actually enjoy the water since you're not at a slog and the Bubble Shield makes the stress of drowning become very minimal. Like Aquatic Ruin & Chemical Plant reward you with skillful play by letting you avoid the water and while Hydrocity can offer you the option to do that, I don't mind actually going in the water in that stage since it's still fun regardless. The color palette/visual design of the level I find to be very cool-blue & the music gets me pumping (especially when Act.2 hits and the moment is enhanced with a wall trying to crush you), there's also the boss which while still as easy as any other boss I find to be creative since you're using his bombs to reach heights to hit him kind of like Starlight Zone's but with a neat twist of you using the explosions to go upward as opposed to you using them the bombs like a seesaw.

remember that boss in sonic and knuckles that that is a giant capsule, you jump onto the yellow button and two giant maces come out? I can assure you mania is going to have moments like that but turned up to fucking 11 and on steroids, just complete what the FUCK moments

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>>381787210
H-hey, Motobug, am I common enough to hang with you Green Hill guys?

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You know Tee Lopes/Falk are gonna make something god tier for this zone.

>>381787380
You forget what actually powers these things

I hope both games succeed. Getting Mania for Switch and Forces for PC.

Do you think we'll finally get a sonic game without a 'oh for fuck sake' level? Every Sonic game is plagued with that one fucking level.

>>381780410
Sonic 1 was my first game along with Alex Kidd in Miracle World since my parents had a MS and Genesis when I was born. As I got older they got me 2/3/K which I loved. Then I got an SNES when the Mario All stars+World bundle came out.

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>>381788273
The badniks are sometimes portrayed as sentient. Is it right to end one life to save another? Who are we to decide who shall live and who shall die?

>>381787865
No, go to the scraps in Flying Battery.

>>381758198
Sonic Mania seems waaaay too Sonic CD flavoured. Hopefully it's met with mediocre reactions.

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>>381789481
As a CDfag I don't know how you come to this conclusion. Everything about Mania is 3&K as hell.

>>381789180
Id say they highjacked their sentience so, like somrbody who highjacked electricity, they deserve none

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>>381789481
>Sonic Mania seems waaaay too Sonic CD flavoured. Hopefully it's met with mediocre reactions.

This is one of the worst posts I've ever read about anything

>>381780410
Sonic Mega Collection. I lived in a Nintendo house growing up so I never got exposed to SEGAs library.

>>381758198
>work a retail job for the summer
>see mentally challenged manchild walking with wrangler
>has sonic shirt on
>not even surprised

seriously what is it about sonic that draws them to it? is it the bright colors?

>>381789481
>Level design is S3K-esque
>Only one level is from CD

>>381789180
Just use a new power source, problem solved.

>>381789481
t. clueless pleb

See: >>381783068

>>381781768

Oil Ocean

>>381781768
I had more fun in Metropolis than in Marble Garden. Fuck that zone.

>>381790182
Simple character designs that try to be cool.

>>381789481
If you're talking aesthetics then yeah, I agree although I'd say it's mixed with Knuckles' Chaotix quite a bit and I don't see any negative to this. If you mean level design then that screams Sonic 3 & Knuckles and I don't know where you're getting this CD part from.

>see thread
>decide to give sonic 2 another shot
>enjoying myself up through mystic cave
>play oil ocean even though it's kind of a slog
>force myself to go through metropolis (which is bullshit of the worst kind thanks to literally everything fucking you up the dick with projectiles)
>get to wing fortress
>get buttfucked by the boss
>eventually run out of continues and just give up rather than doing the entire game again or even just level selecting because I'm so fed up I don't want to touch my genesis ever again

Wow, Sonic 2 just goes off a fucking cliff after a certain point. I don't even think Wing Fortress' boss is that bad I think it's just that the combination of metropolis' general awfulness and my frustration at all the bottomless pits I fell in leading up to it made me lose all patience I had with the game up until then. Didn't even bother with the actual final boss but I don't remember particularly liking it much either.

>>381789481
if it looked anything like CD I wouldn't be excited for it. Visuals are more like Chaotix except not shit too.

>>381789180
Generic badniks have no sentience, they just follow their masters orders.

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>>381787579
>Find a capsule at the end of FBZ act 1
>Oh boy this again huh
>Jump on the yellow pad
>Eyes pop out
>Mace arms pop out
>Heh nice callback, time to fight this old idiot again--
>Then it sprouts two more mace arms
>Oh okay swee--
>And then it sprouts legs and stands up
>Uhh--
>And then it sprouts a radar dish and a magnetically propelled grenade launcher
>...
>And then it bashes the floor and you both fall into a pit full of scrap metal and broken badniks
>And THEN the boss fight begins
Sonic is going to be a CUH-RAY-ZEE action game next, just you wait.

>>381790764
Chaotix is just CD with more detail though.

>>381758278
Being greedy I want Ice Cap, Hydrocity and Lava Reef.

But I'd settle for Ice Cap

>>381791041
yes, and Mania has that level of detail without looking like complete shit.

>>381790682
Yeah you didn't miss anything really, I drop the game after mystic cave myself when I replay sonic 2 from time to time

>>381784965
>Sprite based OC character creator
Infeasible.

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>>381768492
I'm looking forward to finally getting an exact count of how many Sonic fans do and don't suffer from autism

>>381790962
You know what, you've just called it anon

it will be this

>>381791041
Chaotix is CD with more detail and even worse level design

>>381758198
they fucked up tails eyes

>Sonic Mania level
>Song grabs a ring, it attaches to tails
>game becomes chaotix for a single level

deep down in my soul, I know this is going to happen.

>>381765387
Mapanon here (was asleep till just now so just saw thread)

in case you're still here, here's the most complete version of the Mania map I have
https://i.imgur.com/YgNMDzz.jpg

>>381785049

That's because nobody gives a shit about sonic chronicles.

I mean, you know that one song everyone always posts? The really fucking bad one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08

Yeah that's Diamond Dust Zone from Sonic 3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHa0D1aUJwk

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The Mania dev team just came to you asking for you to pitch a brand new zone idea to them. What's the zone called and what's it like?

>>381785097

Those guys aren't shit, if only because they're fucking broken and half the time don't even go off. Those mantis cocksuckers and the crab motherfuckers are a real bitch though.

>>381791860
The city from the Daft Punk music video, One More Time.

>>381785748

I can't pretend to know a lot about Japan or how they see certain franchises but I mean if I had to wager I'd say that Sonic is about as popular in Japan as Fire Emblem is in the states.

>>381781768
>hating Aquatic Ruin and Sandopolis
nah fuck you

But to answer your question:
>Oil Ocean
>Sky Chase (doesn't really count)
>Wacky Workbench
>Marble Garden
>Carnival Night

>>381791931
and it's called... Daft City.

>>381766259
Still fantastic but I think I prefer the previous version. The synths in the last part of the song are too in your face.

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>>381787210

Motobug is easily the best but if I had to pick a number 2 it'd be this guy.

>>381791860
I haven't played every Sonic game ever, so perhaps it's already happened, but I'd like a hull blown amusement park. Roller coasters and such.

Any speculation on what the special stages may be? I hope to god it's getting blue spheres.

>>381791041

You realize Chaotix is running on 32 bit hardware, right?

And that Mania's design philosophy is basically "what if a 2D sonic game came out on the saturn?"

Which is another 32 bit console?

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>>381791860
can't think of a good name, but a zone that takes place inside a giant mecha fish

>>381791557
CD has the worst 2D era level design.

Chaotix was just hold left/right.

>>381789807
>>381790189
>>381790229
If it turns out to be cd-esque shit, I'll fuck you all in the ass

>>381789654
>CDfag
kill yourself

I've beaten 1, 2 and 3&K more times than i can count, but I've never played any of the ROM hacks. Are any of them worth it or are they just memes?

>>381790962

oh god please yes

>>381792254
>hull blown amusement park

You mean full, we've already had that.

>>381791326

Works just fine in Fire Pro Wrestling

>>381792010
Aquatic ruin is fine because you can skip the water with the top path but Sandopolis is just bleh

>>381792283
Sonic 3K had a bonus stage that was a throwback to the Sonic 1 special stage.

Taxman teased Blue Sphere in widescreen with Mania's color palette. Implying that Mania will have a bonus stage that is a throwback to 3K's special stage.

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>>381791860
Big Bad Badnik Factory
Have the first act be where individual parts are being made, and scrap from broken badniks and bosses are melted down into new parts. Have Egg-robos working on parts while you have to struggle around factory machinery like crushers, fire, incinerators, blades, water, so on so forth. Second act is where the larger badniks are built, so have it feature more notable badniks from the series and have them be unpainted or only partially built.
Have the end boss be an egg robo piloting semi-complete versions of egg-mobile bosses from past sonic games. That or a broken Silver sonic or something similar.

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>>381758278
I want them to surprise us with a remade spinoff level.

>The Machine
>Diamond Dust
>Jungle Zone
>Crystal Egg

Really any game gear level would be cool. I just want something more surprising than the remade classic levels.

>>381792532
I've never had an issue with Sandopolis Act 2, but I can see why people do. Same with Marble, Labyrinth, and Metropolis.

>>381787579
I don't think anything will top that moment. I mean, you're never going to be 5 again and play that moment for the first time ever again.

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>>381792403
>CD has the worst 2D era level design
You mean the best. Go for generators you shit. Besides like I said it looks like 3&K in its level design. Maybe actually watch footage and compare you pissant.

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>>381758198
Reminder new episode came out with even more fan pandering

>>381792403
>If it turns out
Just look at the available footage, you blind faggot.

>>381766848
Isn't that the wrong hand?

>>381792691
It looks like a mix of both. It has 3K's density, with CD's verticality.

>>381791707

>level

bonus stage, calling it right now

>>381792576

I would love to see an all original game by these guys.

But Sega has to fucking let them first.

>>381792403
Cd level design is made so you explore the level to find and destroy those weird machines that make a bad future and past signs. If you ignore that shit then CD just seems like a oddly short short sonic game with a time travel gimmick. Mania from what I can tell is just get to the goal.

>>381791860
Heinous Anus Zone

>>381792848
They were going to do an all original game. Then Iikuza suggested/insisted that they add MORE to it.

That's what we're getting. The original game we were going to get is still all there in Mania, we're just getting a fuckload of extra content.

People are literally complaining about extra content.

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>>381780410
Got the mega collection as a kid and loved it. Just around the same time, I discovered Newgrounds and fell deep into the hole of teenage cringe.

>>381792404

If you're ever in the mood for Sonic 3K again make sure you pick up Sonic 3 Complete

>>381792404
They're shit fan-levels.

>>381792691
>You mean the best. Go for generators you shit.
Get cancer.

>>381792371
awesome idea

>>381791860
I want to go to an underwater base, all metalic but with giant windows in the background that just show off fish and sharks and all the deep sea creatures, and then the MANIA gets involved and at one point in the level, theres a leak and water starts filling the stage. Stage ends with you taking a rocket fueled pod through the water blasting out of the water and landing on land, into the next zone

>>381781768
I never really liked Carnival Night. It felt way too crowded and gimmicky. I never had a problem with the barrel though.

>>381780410
I literally don't remember. I've been playing Sonic 2 since before I can remember. There's a picture of me at 1 or 2 years old with a Genesis controller in my hand.

>>381758198
I hope we get an animated intro like Sonic CD.

>>381792494
>You mean full, we've already had that.

Which one. I remember levels coming close like Carnival Night but not quite what I wanted.

>>381793079
>Get cancer.

might just from talking to someone as retarded as you

>>381792942
>Cd level design is made so you explore the level

Doesn't mean it wasn't shoddily designed. I remember being so amped to play the game for the first time since I never got the Mega CD attachment. I was incredibly disappointed with both the bizarre colour palettes, unsonic music and the shit level design, not to mention the shit 4 hit bosses and annoying jump sound.

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>>381786979
These motherfuckers. I can jump over Slicers just fine but these assholes always get me.

>>381780410
I can't quite remember, I think it was an older game. Might have been on a cousin's genesis.
Sonic Gems Collection is what cemented it for me, before that I had just played them off and on.

>>381792691
Sonic CD has the highest highs but Wacky Workbench is the lowest low for the series. There's no defending that tedious slog.

>>381792404
If you want something that's pure gameplay and difficulty, go with Sonic VR. Takes a real understanding and mastery of Sonic's physics and abilities to beat.

>>381767564
I want to see Sonic and Crash combine their spinning powers.

>>381791486

Children play games too, and they will probably go for Forces over Mania.

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>>381791860
I'm terrible with names so I'm going to have to just call it MUSIC TOWN!

Entirely music based level, piano keys, trumpets, bouncing off violin strings, spinballing down guitars. Just an entire act based off intruments and musical parts

End boss is a giant robot with a saxophone which fires missiles and musical notes which hurt you, but every time it plays it syncs with the music and it's funky as fuck

>>381793336
>unsonic music

I can agree to disagree with most complaints about CD but what man? CD's music is the fucking definition of Sonic.

>>381793459
Who will either end up hating Sonic or grow up with autism too.

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>>381793016
I know that feel, luckily no one knows about those newgrounds/deviantart accounts I once had, and they never will.
Never

>>381793534

so basically planet sonata from ristar but in sonic? I could get behind it

>>381793336
You're not making any substantive complaints about the level design.

>>381791860
>Badnik Badlands Zone

A giant junkyard full of scrapped badniks and old Eggman machines. It would have a random selection of badniks from all 3 games, segments where you either manipulate or outright control the old mechs to progress and a boss fight featuring a giant Frankenstein monster made out of old badniks.

>>381793603
I KNOW ANON. AND I'M JUDGING YOU FOR IT.

I KNOW

>>381792567
>Egg Robo pilots multiple poorly made replicas of some of Eggman's more famous egg-mobiles
>Each one break in two hits before it moves to the next one because they're unfinished scrap heaps
>After you defeat it, you hit a conveniently placed self destruct button and have to escape the factory as it blows up

Imagine living in the Sonic universe? Like, you have to commute to work in that city in the background of Chemical plant zone or the one in Starlight zone?

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>>381793336
>disappointed with the colour palettes
>unsonic music
>shit level design
>shit 4 hit bosses
spot the pleb

>>381780410
My nana found a Genesis at a yard sale for me back in 99. First console I ever had and I enjoyed the fuck out of, because she was the head manager of a video store and had tons of games.
RIP everything in the above sentences.

>>381793862
Maybe sonic only traverses through the rough and treacherous areas because hes the hero? maybe there is nice places to live

>>381793961
> First console I ever had
>99

You must've been super poor.

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>>381793781
fuck

>>381794032
Yup.

>>381793971
If unleashed is anything to go by, the rollercoaster twists and loops are built into everyday roads and buildings. I think most parts of Sonic's crazy ass world are treacherous.

>>381794151
I was poor but even I had an N64 by 97.

I would've bought a Saturn but I didn't know it existed due Sega's terrible, terrible advertising in the UK.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgOcFIo0kE

Daily reminder that the person who animated this is now animating for Sonic Mania, and did the animations for the preo rder trailer. Also got a gig with the Sonic comics for a while.

Daily reminder that you live in the meme timeline, and that if you dedicate yourself to something, even Sonic the Hedgehog, you will be rewarded ten fold.

Aw yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j0q2DbXgAc

>>381794534
>starting Act 1 with the Act 2 intro
Tee Lopes fucked up

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>>381794534

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>>381794589
Act 1s of the returning levels are mixes of Act 1 and Act 2s of their original maps. Green Hills kind of an exception since it has 3 acts, so its third act slips into Act 2 of its Mania version.

Act 1 of Chemical Plant is Act 1 and 2 of the original mixed into one big map:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52UGIIIp9WE

So basically, most Act 2s are all-original.

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>>381794518

that whole comic is 11/10 but pic related is a 12

>>381794589
But the act 2 intro makes it ten times better, it's so fucking good. Plus there's that subtle electricity shield sound effect they tossed in too.
Think of it this way; if they put the act 2 intro into the act 1 remix, then the act 2 music itself may be an even crazier remix.

>>381794841
The instrument they use for the main tune kinda sucks.

>>381791860
something with magic tricks and deck of cards and shit, flashy and showy

>>381794518
I mean, Sega has hired the people that have a love and understanding of the franchise.

>>381794841

>been mostly avoiding watching actual footage of the game because I wanna go in fresh as I can
>decide to watch this anyway
>see sonic just catching a ride from tails
>realize you can use this with drop dash

oh

oh shit

oh shit this game is just getting better every second

>>381794987
Holy shit, that got an actual laugh out of me when Ken Penders showed up.

Tyson Hesse is a blessing.

>>381794518
>Daily reminder that you live in the meme timeline, and that if you dedicate yourself to something, even Sonic the Hedgehog, you will be rewarded ten fold.
I could if I fapped less

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>>381794987

>Thank you Ken Penders!

>>381795348
you could turn fapping into a career

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>>381794987
>Sonic's disguise
>DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, SONIC!
>Ha
>NO LAUGHING NEAR THE EMERALD!
>Thank you Ken Penders!
This comic is fucking great.

>>381758198

Why is Sonic CD so shit? Tried playing it because I'm hyped for Mania and I can't get over how bad the level design and art...

>>381791860
Farmland Zone
Eggman has made a ton of mechanical farm animals for you to defeat. Cows stand up and shoot with their nipples like machine guns, chickens will run past you and lay egg bombs (they really hate Tails), you eventually get stuck on a track where you have to outrun horses, pig pit is very slippery and they'll punish you if you're not careful, and the farmer bot boss has dog minions that you can pop for a coin during the battle.

You can run into haystacks, get stuck, and slow down until you run it off. Tractors will shoot said haystacks at you. Pitchforks are used like seesaws to get you to higher places. Loops are made out of wood. Wooden barrels can be ridden on (while running backwards), otherwise you'll get hurt by them if they roll over you.

That's all I can think of.

>>381795451
It's so fucking insane it might be the greatest

>>381794987
Since Tyson draws for SEGA now I consider this canon

>>381794987
>eggman's reaction to being seen by knuckles, and the next panel hes fucking gone

mein kampfen sides

>>381791860
Mania level where you become Robotik for a level, and you have to create the robot which will be the boss of the next stage you play as sonic, it's like a tetris mini game but you're building a giant fucking robot and each playthrough it can end different

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>>381758198
Who is the 4th playable character going to be /v/?

>>381796272
It's going to be Amy, but the CD version, any other answer is false.

I want it to be Metal Sonic

>>381795445
There are the 3 main dudes that made the sonic games, and Sonic CD was the vision of one of those main dudes. Nakamura or something.