We never even learned the name of the continent Fates was set on.

It was called NotCanon

Remember when Fire Emblem had Dignity?

>>381744374
Waifuria

>>381744374
We can safely infer that it is a parallel-world Archanea

>>381745203
Why is the flat sister so unpopular unlike >>381745621

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>>381745702
Because people have shit taste

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Hinoka is just made for cuddling and gentle sex.

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>>381745702

Some characters are just made to be inferior, prime bully material for other characters.

>>381744374
Nohr

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>>381745702
>Why is...flat...unpopular

Did you even read what you just typed? Because you answered your own question.

>>381746910
>>381745081
why are the retainers better than the main characters

>>381744985
There is literally no difference in the amount of "dignity" FE has now than it did 20 years ago, oldfag

You lot are the niggers of these threads

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>>381747131
Who knows

>>381744374
it was set on my dick

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>>381747131
most FE lords are pretty bland shits

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The husbandos were good in Fates as well.

>>381747459
Fates had it especially bad because Corrin was such a borderline downie

>>381747459
and yet they're the most popular characters. I don't know how that manages to be

>>381747481
I love Lobster Nii-sama!

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>>381747739
Both are good. Aniki's were made for lewd.

>>381744374
>>381744985
>More people crying about the 3DS games

It's literally autistic shrieking, I swear.

>If you hate them for being too easy, why don't you also hate 8, 9, 10 and 12?

>If you hate their stories, why don't you also hate 6, 7, 8 and 10?

Really, you just hate them because they're new.

>>381748003
Shh don't try telling oldniggers that their games are clunky and shit, they get cranky

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>>381747530
all of them have it really bad, Hector was the only one I liked that much
>>381747638
MC's are almost always the most popular, ESPECIALLY in japan

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>>381748115
I want to praise Kagero for her art.

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>>381744985
Saved. The. Series.

>>381748202
Get that disgusting slut Orochi away from Kagero.

>>381744985
I would love to fucking hear what you mean by this

>>381748338
The comic where Ryoma fucks Xander and then Shiro fucks Xander is hot.

>>381748246
Just imagine how many orgies Orochi has peer pressured Kagero into.

>>381748440
No thanks, Orochi is disgusting. Like she ruins all her supports she would ruin any attraction that would bring.

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>>381748332
Best girl.

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>>381747225

you can argue quality has improved if you want, but there is absolutely no denying that Fire Emblem panders to lonely otaku (of both genders) way the fuck harder than it used to, which is what I assume that anon meant by "dignity."

>FE7
characters can support specific characters that have a connection to them, either through backstory or personality. player is given the option to create a tactician self-insert who main characters will occasionally address (often with a compliment), but who has very little bearing on the plot. game functions perfectly well if the player chooses not to create a tactician.

>Fates
main character is a self insert who is also explicitly a paragon of virtue and strategic genius and amazing fighter and also half dragon, and is the main thing that everything in the plot revolves around. the story's main conflict is basically two different parties fighting each other for your affection. every single member of the dozens-strong army can be married off to your self insert, and then brought to a lounge where you rub their body and they say sultry things directly into the camera.

I hope nobody here has deluded themselves into thinking there isn't a massive difference between these two systems, or that the fact that Tiki exists as a character in FE1 is somehow comparable to marrying Nowi in Awakening, or anything similarly ridiculous.

>>381748440

But both Orochi and Kagerou are virgins, as confirmed in the official FE-Fates additional comic.

https://exhentai.org/g/925945/7a9dc1b5fa/

>>381748681
wow that was a waste of time on your part

What a lot of nothing

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>>381748589
>???
M-masaka

>>381748681
>characters can support specific characters that have a connection to them, either through backstory or personality.

(lol

Play the game before you comment, please.

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>>381748202
>only Corrin can be gay
bullshit
>>381748003
most of the older games are not really anything special though I feel like a remade Genealogy would be really, really good.

IF they could ever manage to do proper fucking remakes

>>381748681
Sure you can marry everyone in Fates, but for the most part you can make everyone marry everyone else.

>>381748792
This faggot never even played Fates, obviously. None of that shit is real

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>>381748681
The supports in echoes were much better.

>>381748905
holy fuck

Dumbest post of the year

>>381748905
What supports? They might as well not even have been there for the lack of anything interesting or any development in them.

>>381748905
hahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>381748905
Holy shit, don't ever post in these threads again you idiot faggot

>>381748905
Damn, baby got back.

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>>381748718

imagine being assblasted by simple facts. lonely otaku detected - not that there's anything wrong with that, but try not to let it cloud your judgment or make you mad. Fates is one of my favorite FE games btw

>>381748792

not sure what you mean by this post. in GBA era / PoR, support convos were only written in specific instances where the writers thought they would be interesting for whatever reason, as opposed to Awakening/Fates where support convos are systematically assigned to basically every pairing of characters imaginable. the older games have drastically fewer supports as a result

>>381748825

this is true, but I don't think it really refutes my point. it just increases the games potential as some sort of Shipping Manager 2016

>>381748857

u wot? amie is real and I remember being able to marry every female member of my army + Niles.

>>381748905

haven't played Echoes.

>>381748905
Celica was a fucking moron.

>>381748681
>>381744985
>Remember when Fire Emblem had Dignity?

Do people actually need this shit spelled out to them?

>5: The last good FE game.

>6: Entire game is a rip off from earlier, literally zero ambition from the SNES days.

>7: Holy rehashed sprites and mechanics. The game is a quick 1 year rush job and it shows. The maps are average, the mechanics are literally copy-pasted from 6, the story is by far the worst in FE History so far and in future is rivalled only by Conquest and RD. A female lead is shoehorned in to give the western audience a tutorial, then dissapears entirely from the plot to never be mentioned again, none of the lords have even a drop of character, characters join absolutely randomly and the ending retcons the entire game.

>8: Holy rehashed sprites and mechanics AGAIN. Another 1 year rushjob, take everything about 7, tone it down a million notches and make the easiest game in the series so far. Boring, shitty casual, baby's first FE game. Tries so hard to recover from 7's failure of a story that it plays it completely safe, the literal "Fire Emblem Plot".

>9: Baby's first FE Game v2.0. Literally so goddamn mindnumbingly easy that you have to put self imposed challenges in to even stay awake. Animations are terrible, actions are painfully slow. Only good part is the story.

>10: And everything good about that story is quickly ruined in the mostly unnecessary sequel. Apparently 9 wasn't easy enough for all the shitters, so they literaly let you save and reload whenever you want. It's literally impossible to fail, anytime a unit dies you just reload. Again, only way to stay awake is with self-imposed difficulty. If you complain about Hard Mode you're showing you literally don't know what you're talking about . Competes with 7 for the "Worst Story in a FE Game so far" award, but can't quite take it.

>11: (lol rehash, who gives a shit

>12: (lol rehash, who gives a shit

>>381749212
Imagine being this much of a fucking whiner. Just get the fuck out

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>>381748905
The supports are really hit and miss, but at least the memory prisms pick up some slack for them.

>>381749258
This. The 3DS entries brought some fucking ambition and quality to the series. There's a reason why they saved the series, but good luck convincing niggers about them

>>381749212
>not sure what you mean by this post. in GBA era / PoR, support convos were only written in specific instances where the writers thought they would be interesting for whatever reason, as opposed to Awakening/Fates where support convos are systematically assigned to basically every pairing of characters imaginable. the older games have drastically fewer supports as a result

Oh yea man, Dart's supports with Wil were just fucking mind blowingly good! They added SOOOOOOOOO MUCH to the game. And Farina with Kent was just MIND BLOWING!

Why can't these nuFE shitters realise that all the old games were literally perfect!

>>381749212
So what if it is shipping manager? You don't have to pick up the kids or not. Some people like it, some people don't. You don't have to marry anyone yourself either.

>>381749358
>0+0 = ??????????????????

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>>381748003
>10 and 12
>Easy

>>381749421
Awakening/Fates's worst support is ten times better than anything 7 had

>>381749528
That isn't true, and I like Awakening and Fates. Both games have hit or miss supports.

>>381749473
>10
>Hmm, I've only got a 40% chance to hit this enemy, better save before I attack him.
>Missed! Damn! Reload!
>Okay, let's try that again!
>Yes! Hit! And I levelled up, aww, it was a bad levelup... Reload
>Yes! Hit! And a good level up! Perfect!

Oh man, wow, that's... Yeah, man, that's so fucking hard, wow... I can't even, the intensity of the difficulty is just... Maaaan.

>12
>Difficult

Shitter detected

>>381749610
God you are such a faggot whiner

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Faye is the sexiest FE girl

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>>381748003
Can I be cool with Fates and dislike Awakening?

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>>381749528
fucking hell, this shit opinion

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>>381749275

(lol

it's video games discussion. maybe you should stop using this board if it's making you feel uncomfortable. I hear reddit has etiquette rules in place, they might prevent you from getting your feelings hurt.

>>381749421
that's not even remotely close to what I was trying to say. I'm just saying, the game caters to the otaku demographic more heavily than it used to, and I backed up my claims. I never said that all of 7's supports were good. I never even said that they were better than Fates'.

>>381749440
I'm not complaining about it, but some people act like Fire Emblem has always been exactly the way it is now re: fanservice. It absolutely has not been.

>>381749528
no way.

>Saizo / Belka
>muh pickles

>>381749610
Except that oldFE has all trash/boring supports

>>381749759
>let me shit on entertaining/character building supports while supporting all the nothing supports in FE7

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

>>381749773

I liked Matthew / Guy. and all of Serra's supports

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>>381749701
I didn't like awakening all that much either, felt like a weird stop gap between RD and Fates.

>>381749759
Says the barafag nigger with reddit spacing and reddit opinions

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I like each game for different reasons.

>>381749759

Here's what you said:

>characters can support specific characters that have a connection to them, either through backstory or personality.

I pointed out that you're wrong, that many of the supports were just funny, stupid conversations that added little or nothing to the game. Just the same as the current iterations.

Most of 7's supports were crap, there were a handful of good ones and about 2 I'd consider great. Awakening/Fates, likewise had many average or meh supports, a good handful that were good and a few I'd consider great. Exactly the same.

You're looking through rose tinted goggles because 7 was the first FE game you played and you didn't see the flaws. You're exactly the same as the people who wonder why we laugh at them when they say Golden Sun was a good RPG, no, it was just the first RPG they played.

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>>381749848

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>>381749942
This
Except Shadow Dragon. Fuck Shadow Dragon.

>>381749942
>I'm a fence sitter, please suck my dick for being so superior!

>>381749759
>Saizo / Belka
>muh pickles

See, it's shit like this that shows you're only getting your opinion from other people.

Saizo and Belka's support was legitimately pretty damn good, it's easily in the top third of supports in Fates, the B and A supports are strong enough to carry it even with the shitty C support Treehouse gave us.

And Pickleman had some of the best supports of any of the children, including the absolute best support with F-Kana around.

>I'm not complaining about it, but some people act like Fire Emblem has always been exactly the way it is now re: fanservice. It absolutely has not been.

This, however, is true.

Fire Emblem has been about otaku's and fanservice since 5. Every game after 5 has been trash because of that.

See above for why.

>>381749837

I challenge you to point out the specific line where I shitted on Fates supports, or said that the old supports were good. All I'm saying is that the motivations of the developers, and the audience that they are targeting, has shifted, and that you can see that shift clearly demonstrated in the factors that I described. I'm not saying that the fanservice is bad - just that there's objectively more of it now than there used to be.

take a deep breath and maybe get a glass of water. I'm not attacking your favorite game, sperg.

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>>381750056
Inferior Honkers

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>>381749985
>Not using this pic instead

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>>381750037
There is no need to be upset.

>>381750106
>spergs out
UH NO YOU ARE SPERG DURR DURR I HAVE DOWNS

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>>381749942
me to, except Thracia
Thracia can fuck right off

>>381750106
>Comes into thread to relentlessly dicksuck the old games
>I-I like the new games too! It's just the old games are better! WHY ARE YOU ALL LAUGHING AT MY TERRIBLE OPINIONS!?

(lol

>>381750254
fucking wreck him

>>381750212

Everything about Thracia is fantastic, except playing it.

>>381750106
>objectively

God you ARE retarded, what a stupid nigger

>>381750106
>All I'm saying is that the motivations of the developers, and the audience that they are targeting, has shifted

Well you're an Ikeposter, so let's see...

>Fates has better mechanics than either of Ike's games (or any other game in the series tbqh)
>Fates is far harder than either of Ike's games (and the vast majority of the series)
>Fates isn't casual baby shit like Ike's games
>Fates story is about as bad as Ike's second game

Yup. They sure have shifted their demographic. They're now targeting people who're looking for a challenge, rather than "Baby's first Tactical RPG: No need to understand the mechanics Edition"

>>381749907

putting line breaks between separate replies is not "reddit spacing", dumbass.

>>381749952
>characters can support specific characters that have a connection to them, either through backstory or personality

I guess I phrased that incorrectly, so I was wrong. What I meant to say was this - the creation of any given support conversation was based on whether the writers actually came up with something they thought was worthwhile, rather than fulfilling a mandatory support system across almost the entire playable cast.

as a result there are drastically FEWER (not necessarily better) supports and pairing options in the old games, when compared to 12/13. the shipping has become a more highly emphasized part of the game, and that fact is reflected in dev time allocation.

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Flora did nothing wrong

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>>381750319
I'd say that's Genealogy because FUCK those big ass maps where only horses fucking matter but man I love the story and some of the characters are really well done.

Arvis is easily my fave villain in the series

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>>381750525
She burned herself out too hard.

>>381750481
>as a result there are drastically FEWER (not necessarily better) supports and pairing options in the old games, when compared to 12/13. the shipping has become a more highly emphasized part of the game, and that fact is reflected in dev time allocation.

Yeah, they've instead spent their time making the games an actual challenge and putting in interesting mechanics.

Rather than the booring snoozefest that was the casualised older games.

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Why can't we ever have a nice FE thread without mudslinging about the different games?

>>381750861

Too many autists creaming over the old games that almost killed the series

>>381750861
I know. Oldfags truly are the niggers of these threads. We'll never be able to enjoy ourselves without them-

>Lilina

-without you.

>>381750861

Because the older fans have spent literally years making sure that anyone who came into the fandom has felt as unwelcome and unwanted as possible.

>It would have been better if FE died!
etcetc

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>>381750254

you'd think I posted something like "this series sucks now, FE7 was way better." I didn't, Conquest is my second favorite FE game after 4. I'm legitimately stunned by how overly sensitive you're being.

>>381750475

pretty strange to jump to the conclusion that I'm a hardcore Telliusfag from a single image.

but that's not actually refuting any of the points I made regarding shipping, fanservice, or the treatment of the player's self-insert. a game series can become less casual, and pander to otaku more at the same time you know? that's exactly what happened

>>381750348
>>381750181

these are also not refutations, in fact they're not even attempts at refutation, so I'm just going to assume that you realize the point about increased fanservice is true in your heart of hearts, but don't want to make a post conceding that it's true because it would deflate your ego. feel free to spend your next post accusing me of saying that the old games were better games, even though I'm not.

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>>381750861
Because elitist oldfags and Conquestfags both have a superiority complex.

>>381749619
>Savescumming
I think you're the shitter, anon. Especially since it seems you haven't played anything past 12 H1.

Goddamn, everyone is a whiny little cunt.

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>>381750861
never ever

>>381750861
Because oldfags. If you just chase them out, the thread become more comfy.

Like this faggot nigger who won't leave:
>>381751017
God I wish I'd been given that janny position

>>381751019
Conquestfags are never a problem in these threads

>>381745702
Because Hinoka is boring. No backstory, no looks, no good voice actor. Nothing.

>381751017
we're all reporting this shitposting, right?

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>>381751075
>tfw Heroes threads are the best because every thread about the main games turns into this shit

I like all FE games....

Am I a bad person?

>>381748684
>tfw it seemed like there'd be a sequel to this but nothing ever came of it
fuck man I just want more porn of charlotte and peri

>>381751261
You just have kinda shit taste, just don't post about the old games

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>>381751261
No.

>>381751295
>getting triggered at the mere discussion of older games

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>>381751148
As soon as anybody wants to talk about Echoes, Conquestfags are always the ones to start shit.

>>381751219

I'm curious how you would interpret that as a shitpost, or worthy of a report. not only is it on-topic, but it's also worded fairly politely, especially by the standards of this board.

>>381751081
>>381751071

you're taking this so poorly that I almost feel like I should apologize for making you upset. I really like Conquest! really, I do. I didn't mean to make you feel self-conscious just because you enjoy a game that panders to otaku. I also enjoy it.

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I can't tell whether this thread is oldfags trying to trigger new fans, new fans falseflagging as oldfags to trigger new fans, oldfags falseflagging as new fans to make them look worse, or all of the above.

Tiki's tikis!

I really wish I could kill certain posters just by thinking about them dying since they won't fucking leave. Just like niggers, always loitering about where they aren't wanted.

Jesus this board and these threads have gone to shit

>>381751017
>Come into the thread and complain only about the new games while slobbering relentlessly over FE7
>Get called out on it
>Make a millions posts crying about this
>I'm legitimately stunned by how overly sensitive you're being.

(lol

>>381751446
Aside from Echoes being an abomination and complete shit, you can't prove a single part of that post

>>381745702
She has no role in the plot
She has no plot
She is less useful as a unit
The most relevant thing she ever does is come out as an attack helicopter

>>381750525
That's only because, luckily for both you and the writing team, being retarded is not a crime.

>>381750861
Heroes threads are actually surprisingly decent, because everyone can agree that Heroes is ass.

>>381751717
Keep it up, I hope he kill itself

>>381751017
>pretty strange to jump to the conclusion that I'm a hardcore Telliusfag from a single image.

And you've yet to refute anything about the fact that, despite your own made up insistances that the games have changed demographics, that they've markedly improved over the previous casualised shitfests.

You're just whining because of nostaliga.

>>381751041

The game literally tells you to play like that. But please, keep talking about how 10 is somehow difficult.

Why does Hoshido have one sister and three brothers when Nohr has two sisters and two brothers?

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>he fell for the conquest is good meme
No, faggots, it's not. The gameplay or maps are not fucking good.

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>>381751586

I'm the one who keeps getting accused of being an oldfag, even though I like Conquest better than almost all of the other FE games. I'm not trying to trigger anyone but apparently if I point out that 12 and 13 were heavier on fanservice than the older games (and btw I like them better), people just trigger themselves somehow.

>>381751651

you don't own this thread, or the board. I wish you would leave, too, because you haven't really contributed to the thread with images or discussion, just constantly complaining about oldfags or niggers. but it looks like we just have to share the board with each other

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>>381748224
>Saved the series.
Tharjafag in complete denial on how shitty he's whore is.

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>>381751959
I haven't been paying attention to the argument, but just from quickly skimming over the reply chain, I can't anything that really seems like you're trying to trigger new fans desu

>>381751631
They ARE very nice.

>>381752138
For what it's worth, Thotja still >>> Camilla. And Lucina >>>>>>>>> both.

>>381751857
>>381751717


how clear can I possibly make this? when I say "the games pander to otaku more now," I'm not complaining. I am not saying that this is a bad thing. I am not saying that the new games are worse than the old ones. I am not defending the old ones. the games have gotten better, AND there is more fanservice and otaku pandering than there used to be. these statements are both true.

>>381751790

you win the prize for "angriest poster I have ever seen on 4chan". I will go to bed tonight satisfied in the knowledge that I made someone as unpleasant as you are furious, and that I did so completely effortlessly and unintentionally

>>381752218

you're right, I wasn't trying to. but as you can see, this guy >>381752123 did managed to get himself intensely triggered, and has descended into incoherent shitposting mode, despite the fact that I wasn't trying to trigger him. I'm not really sure how that happened.

>>381752280
>Two entire games built around sucking Ike's dick
>No, you see, it's LITERALLY okay when I played them as a kid

(lol

>>381752423
Holy shit he get mad maybe kill

You are a god dude

>>381752218
>Lucina
>Good
Girl Marth is so boring it's painful.
I always romanced the Merchant or the Christmas Cake.

>>381752423

what did he mean by this?

>>381748905
Echoes supports were trash, dude.

>>381752218
>Lucina better than anyone
That's a good joke but the 2x4 that pretended to be Marth is shit

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>>381752423
what are you even talking about

>>381745702
To add to this >>381751763, she's as flat as cardboard in terms of character, and just generally has an unappealing personality.
Saying this as someone who found her more attractive than Camilla, Titty Sister ended up being the far more interesting and fleshed out character. Of course, all the Hoshido nobles suffer from this, generally being less interesting than their Nohr counterparts.

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>>381752024
>have a paid sex/findom fetish
>two sexy moneygrubbers in the two recent games