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How does everyone here feel about this great game not getting the sequel it deserves?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8IguhQqhAg

Looks good to me.
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>before BGE2 was announced
"gee I wish they actually made a sequel this game deserves"
>sequel is announced
"gee I wish they actually made a sequel this game deserves"

You people can't be pleased.
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>>381714896
>>381714784
But its not a sequel, Its a prequel
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>>381714958
I'm interested in the world. I don't care about Jade our Peyj.
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>>381714583
I don't understand the point of ruining franchises by making ...whatever this is.

Just make a different franchise or whatever. This new aesthetic is disgusting.

>>381715114
>>381714784
>>381714896
Gosh, the alarms went off quick over at HQ
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>>381715717
>I don't understand the point of ruining franchises by making ...whatever this is.

This was always what BGE was meant to be.
Michel Ancel talked about it in 2000 interviews.
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>>381714784
>never goes down to the city because there's literally nothing in it
>no npcs, no quests, no nothing
>just an early access indie survival tier procedurally generated wasteland
>scale of the planet is completely fucked, maybe a thousand mile circumference
>looks good
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>>381715812
>This was always what BGE was meant to be.
and yet no one asked for it
they wanted a sequel to the game we got
not a follow up to some concept art
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>>381715972
>and yet no one asked for it

The original creator wanted it.
Why should he care about your random shitty opinion?
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>prequel

WHY

FOR WHAT REASON

>hey guy we should make a game, I propose this high anticipated game people really want
>but instead of the squeal they want lets do a prequel
>XD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381716058
they obviously do care since ubi is going full damage control
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>>381715812

So this is another George Lucas situation, huh? What a shame.
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>>381716148
>ubi is going full damage control
How so?
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>>381716205

That's what they're paying you for, isn't it?
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>>381716204
The prequels are better than the trilogy.
Go suck your uninspired star wars 7 risk-free "lets not upset the fans" movie.
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>>381716294
You didn't answer the question
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>>381714583
>That song
God my expectations are low but i HOPE the soundtrack is even remotely as good as the first game
>The entire opening sequence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZHqh19LQdo
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Every part of fight music in this game is just fucking amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP0EdWLB-dM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1yTwpU-2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZHqh19LQdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipLL26lpRh4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26DILdAU-us
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>>381715943
It's a tech demo of the engine they spent the past three years building.
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>>381714583
ive just finished this today since the e3 reveal i wanted to see what the fuss about the first one was.Im a little confused looking back at e3 after playing the original game...

why are they making a prequel when the game's ending hints at a squeal?I thought they had a teaser trailer with Jade and peyj at e3 years ago?


what does the many buzz words ubi stated at e3 have to do with BGE ? other than the anthropomorphic animals what does it have to do with BGE? what about Jade and Peyj wouldn't people want these returning characters?
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>>381717561
People are mad because the first game ended on a very obvious cliffhanger. Instead of addressing it, they're doing a prequel in the style that Michel Ancel always wanted.
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>>381717716
what was the style he wanted?
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>>381718084
The style we're getting in BG&E2: large-scale and even more open world than the first game was. Technology wouldn't catch up to Michel's vision until extremely recently. They spent three years working on the engine alone that the game will be running on. Now that the engine is functionally ready, proper development of the game can actually begin. That's what all the mentions of "day 0" of development are referring to.
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>>381718304
I believe it was mentioned a few times that what we got in BG&E1 was the closest compromise to what Michel wanted and that even the first game in its entirety wasn't a true representation of his image of the game.
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>>381718304
>>381718439
i did get the feel they wanted to be open world and was held back for example when you get the ship there is only one new location that the ship gives access to other than the moon.

but it didn't harm the games story or characters and it ultimately become a cult hit without it.It just seems silly to ignore fan favorite characters with an unfinished story for an open world prequel.
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@381716317

Too obvious, not even worth a (you).
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>>381714583
How do I feel?

I am wait.
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>>381719062
If I were in Michel's position, I would do a prequel so as to gauge interest and see if people still want the franchise. I mean, with PS4 Pro/Xbox One X coming, it'll have been three generations since BG&E1. You have to see if the market is still there.
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CARLSOOOOOOOON.....
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>We're going to get a 2018/2019 remix of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjZCIsPyRGc
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>>381719373
I can see that but it was always a cult hit.You divorce BGE from Jade and peyj you really are running on a gamble and the edition of an open world is not really a unique experience this gen

Im getting a real mirror's edge catalyst vibes from it lots of noise only to go with a wimpier on release.
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>>381720065
>the edition of an open world is not really a unique experience this gen
Not at the seamless scale Michel is pushing.
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I'll buy it but I don't see the point of making it a prequel and then slapping a 2 on it. What happens if it actually warants a sequel?

What do you call it then?
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>>381714583
I will stand by my opinion when I played this game back in 2011 that it was ok. Not amazing, not great, not bad just ok.
Dont care for a prequel but if it is really good I might consider it.
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>Black pirates use monkey skull as symbol and one is literally a monkey

This is going to cause a shitstorm with the SJWs. I'm surprised they aren't already reeeeeing about it.
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>>381720173
>you've never experienced an open world like this!
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Never had hope in Ubisoft, so it's fine.

Also, BG&E already had a bunch of diversity bullshit (Hispanic A.I. that speaks english with a spanish accent, the resistance only has 1 white male if you count Double H, etc.)

It's just Ubisoft in it's deaththroes from getting gtaken over.
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>>381715943
this was the early inklings of a game in development. you won't see it for another 2-3 earliest. He was just conceptualizing the direction he wants the game to go in. A lot of that stuff might not even be in the final game or even better maybe the game lives up to the promise. but he was just demoing the engine of the game.
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>>381716317
>being a contrarian
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>>381720174
> What is MGS3
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>>381720516
>I am uncomfortable if my video games, and my life, aren't just groups of white men defeating baddies.

With that attitude, life is going to be hard for you.
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>>381714583
Personally, i find all the negative reactions quite unreasonable. The new game looks like a pretty clear follow-up to the original.
Visually, tonally, design-wise, everything looks like the obvious next step.

The visuals of the original game were clearly only cartoony to accommodate the available tech at the time. The original visuals have aged quite well because of this. But just look at jade. she's not a cartoon, she's a realistic character who's design was modified to suit what the tech was capable of. She's not mario or sonic or a looney tune.

Tonally, the game was always a mix between grim dystopia and whacky, rather juvenile humour. It's very French. Even the animal people in an otherwise realistic and gritty world is nothing new, look at Blacksad. Look at L'Incal or anything by Moebius, that's what they're going for. That's what they were always going for. The swearing is only new because hey, it's [Current Year], they can get away with it now.

Design-wise, the original is a Zelda-clone and even actual Zelda has gone open world, so of course bg&e has. It IS made by Ubisoft, after all. Upping the scale to spaceships instead of hovercraft just makes sense, if they can pull it off.

Which leads me to another thing, a lot of people are drawing comparisons to Molyneux, no man's sky, even fucking star citizen. This is bullshit. The game is clearly at a very early stage, and all we've seen is a cgi short film and a tech demo. A lot of what's being described by Ancel is pie in the sky stuff that might not end up in the final game. But you know what the difference between this and star citizen and no man's sky is? No one is asking you for your money. They aren't running a kickstarter. they aren't taking preorders. The game is years away, and yeah, they probably shouldn't be talking about it this early, but putting Ancel in the same category as Sean Murray or Chris Roberts is nuts.
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>>381717716
It wasn't a cliffhanger. It was a sequel hook. Quite different.
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>>381721012
>The new game looks like a pretty clear follow-up to the original.
>not a sequel
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Was I the only person who watched the trailer and got turned off by how blatantly it parroted Fifth Element?
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What are you talking about?

This game looks awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDfWAr8ut_I
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>>381721012
Also, Ancel is pretty realistic about the stuff he can do and get away with.
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>>381717561
>I thought they had a teaser trailer with Jade and peyj at e3 years ago?
The game has clearly been attempted and cancelled a at least a couple time over the years. This is not the same game that that teaser was for.
At this point, we only have a longer teaser trailer and a tech demo, so who's even knows if this version of the game will see release. It could just be another false start.
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>>381721012
Copypasta has gotten quite boring these days.
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BGE wasn't nearly as good as everyone made it out to be. Expect an injection of people now that the new game has been announced and the original was in the summer sale.
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>>381720970

There's no way you can tell me the AI with an accent in a game full of people without accents makes sense.
You want to make a brown AI? Fine.
People/creatures with accents? Understandable.

But then not bothering with anyone else having a spanish accent and programming an AI to have one just sounds dumb. Does spanish even exist in that planet/environment? Are there other accents AIs can have?

I'm just bringing up the diversity bullshit because that was a complaint about BG&E2 that actually wasn't fair, considering the diversity bullshit in the first game (Black female governor).

Also, don't worry about my life. I'm a white male, I'll be fine.
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>>381719872
JA
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>>381721746
It was a passable Zelda game with a couple unique gimmicks (photography, stealth, etc), but a lot of people loved the setting and atmosphere and characters more than anything. No one is holding up BG&E as a treatise on game design, but as an enjoyable and compelling experience overall.
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>>381720065
The game will almost certainly feature Jade's parents and probably a young Peyj'.
The Pirate captain in the trailer has green eyes and black hair, odds on her being Jade's mum are very high.

From a financial standpoint, making a sequel to a game a lot of people didn't play is not a wise choice. A prequel is more friendly to new players while still allowing them to use the same world and story elements.
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>>381720174
BG&E3.
Wow, that was difficult.
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>>381714583

Why is this game called "Beyond Good and Evil"?

>Game starts
>Main character is almost immediately harassed by soldiers from the oppressive regime controlling the planet
>Our plucky underdog heroes try to uncover the truth behind their oppressors
>They're controlled by evil aliens

Seems like it doesn't go beyond that at all.
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>>381721896
thats a bit unfair on BGE it was created before this diversity bullshit had really taken hold.

I really get the impression they wanted to create something different rather than it being created due to a mandatory moral obligation.

sure its a left leaning game about people power and journalism.But it was a more innocent time.To compare it to modern pc game rubbish is a bit like like comparing a working class British labour voter to a raging sjw American college girl
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>>381720345
>I'm pre-emptively whining about about other people possibly getting mad about something when they actually haven't

Wow, It's almost as if you just are just desperately looking for something to be offended by, even when there's nothing there.
Almost.
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>>381722367
You expose who is controlling things behind the scenes. You go beyond, in the eyes of the population who reads your paper.
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>>381721216
Prequels are still chronologically made after the original. They are still following the original. Is English perhaps not your first language?
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>>381716058

Because we're fucking dumbass faggots, how could we sperg about Michel Ancer falling into the fanservice pit if he continues to make games the way ha wants to be.

The way he has to produce good vydias since 1995 is annoying, c'mon it's 2017
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>>381722000
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>>381721332
Yes, you are. It's a French sci-fi setting. It would be weird if it didn't have Moebius as an influence. Moebius, of course, worked on the fifth element and his comics were the largest visual influence of the film. I'm sure you knew that.
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>>381722000

That wasn't the response I was hoping for.
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>>381723401
>Ignore the point that no one wanted a prequel
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>>381723854

>no one wanted

Absolutely nobody cares.
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Why do these companies always copy each other?

A couple of years ago every video games featured a young girl that followed the protagonist around.

Now every game features a black woman with an afro. It's creepy - stop doing tha.

Are we going to get a flood of burqas next years?
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>>381721896
Do you not realise how ridiculous you sound? Oh my god, an a.i. has an accent stop the fucking presses!
I literally do not understand why you think that is worthy of comment. Maybe someone just thought it would be cool. Get your head out of your arsehole. Is that really all it takes to set you off, a single character having an accent? Mate, have you considered, that if that's all it takes, you might be fucking racist? Just a thought, mate, just a thought.
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>>381723979
this is precisely why a game like this will bomb then
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>Only tech demos and a cinematic trailer have been shown
>your retards are already complaining.
You're obviously only bitching because there is a black woman and a monkey on the trailer. Stop being a whiny bitch and wait for a legitimate reason to complain.
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>>381723854
Is that the point you were trying to make? You might need to work on your communication skills there buddy.
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>>381724126
>Now every game features a black woman with an afro.
I literally cannot think of another game that has that. Go back to /pol/ and stay there.
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Has anyone here actually signed up for the Space Monkey (read: feedback/alpha test) program yet?
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>>381724715
There were at least four games at this year's E3 that explicitly featured a black woman with a giant afro, including BG&E2 and Wolfenstein 2.
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>>381714583
Not mad, just disappointed. Ancel will probably make a good game, just not the one I want.
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>>381723401
>a continuation or repetition of something that has already been started or done.
A prequel does not "follow-up". You're trying to play semantics but you're the one with the poor grasp of English.
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>>381715114
>I'm interested in the world. I don't care about Jade our Peyj.
What a retarded post, Jade is what make's the game what it is.
Its like saying I want a Price of Persia game without the prince.
Reeks of gaff desu
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>>381724392
You know No Man's Sky was a success, right?
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>>381720063
That doesn't exist yet.
>>381719872
AND PETEEEEEEEEERS
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>>381725085
Ancel pointed out there were several easter egg shoutouts in the E3 trailer to the first game. Mammago's was one of them.
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>>381725067
naw pic unrelated pic just mirrored previous post
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>>381722367
It's a reference to a quote about journalism.
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>>381724715
>Wolfenstein
>BG&E2
>A Way Out
>Uncharted
>Detroit

There's 5 from this past E3 alone. Not including the 2 sheboons from Far Cry and Dishonored, since they've got perms insteasd of an afro.
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>>381722263
>From a financial standpoint, making a sequel to a game a lot of people didn't play is not a wise choice.
They already released a damn HD remaster. There's no excuse at this point.
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>>381714583
>beyond caring
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>>381724797
>wow, four whole games!
>can only name two
>One is set in the fucking 60s/70s

>explicitly
>As opposed to it being a fucking secret?
>oh no a black person in a game trailer, truly this is white genocide!

Wow, it's fucking nothing.

I repeat, go back to /pol/ and stay there.
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>>381724392

Absolutely everyone cared about NMS, though
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>>381725598
>>381725224
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>>381725542
>Outright ignoring the post that proves it's not only more than 4 but all of them were shown within hours of each other
I bet you're a nigger
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>>381725542
id feel a bit annoyed if my ethnic group,s women where all portrayed the same in every game.
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>>381724948
Yeah, okay buddy.Prequels come after and are clearly a continuation of something, but they are completely not a follow-up, which is totally different. Uh-huh.
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>>381725045
You know, the prince is different in most of the POP games.
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It took me some time to realize Metal Gear Solid 3 was the same shit.
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>>381725938
Prequels aren't a continuation. They aren't a follow-up. Stop confusing "is made after" for "comes after". This is embarrassingly basic English that you're struggling with here. I sincerely hope it's not your first language.
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I feel pretty hype about it finally getting the sequel it deserves tbqh
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>>381726681
It's not a sequel.
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>>381722837

People whining doesn't offend me, and I don't even care about BGaE, I'm just speaking my opinion on what will happen based on how people have behaved in the past.

And you know I'm likely correct.
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>>381726867
You're arguing sematics. A new entry in a preestablished franchise is a sequel.
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>>381726997
You are outright illiterate
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>>381716392
Oh, that anon did answer the question. A different matter is your retarded shill repertoire coming up with an original response instead of simply whining and spamming "not an argument" over and over.
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>>381720345
Sjw's are dying.
It's all coming to a close.
Like every other time people went PC during history.
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>>381714784
I'm not going to write the sequel off this early in development, but what's the appeal of such an insanely huge map?

It just leads to massive procedurally generated environments with no real variety or structured sense of story.
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>>381714583

>modern ubicuck

This is the only possible outcome in 2017.
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