The Metroid Prime trilogy

>>381712808
1 > 2 > 3

>>381713031
no shit sherlock

>>381713031
2>1>3
is objectively the only correct answer.

>>381713189
You're objectively wrong because that's a subjective opinion.

I played 1 and 2 back-to-back and 1 was better.

We can all agree 3 is the worst, right?

1>3>2 is literally the only possible answer

anyone who says otherwise is most likely legally retarded

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post god-tier Metroid music
https://youtu.be/xUWtSrG6xKU
https://youtu.be/mPOIX7g2kQE
https://youtu.be/YfGsArRQjKE
https://youtu.be/zBLbGYA6RTs

>>381715886
that scared the everloving fuck out of me the first time around

1>2>3

This is a trilogy that progressively got worse with each new game.

>>381713705
I don't know. It's probably not as good as 2, but I liked that it tried to do something different.

2 was an iterative sequel where I didn't like the things they iterated on. 3/4ths of the game is THAT level.

>>381717321
Funnily enough, the original Metroid trilogy got progressively better with each installment.

>>381717761
>inb4 implying NES was better than II

>>381712808
>trilogy
>there are 4 prime games
stop being retarded /v/

Other M is the best Metroid game
You know this to be true

>>381717761
no it didn't. gb version was fucking shit

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Fuck me, I just beat Prime 1 for the first time yesterday. That game is incredible. It still holds up super well to this day. It was my first Metroid, and I was blown away by it. Also, it's the only game I've ever played that really benefited from motion controls. 10/10

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>>381720793
That's good to hear, anon.

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>>381719301

>>381719301
Dobson pls go

Will MP4 be good? I'm worried since Retro isn't developing it now. I hope they at least have Kenji Yamamoto again.

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>>381720793

>>381713189
this

>>381713630
I played 1 and 2 back-to-back and 2 was better

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>>381713630
No, Prime 1 and 2 have the same amount of Level design greatness on it, Prime 2 has a higher difficulty and cooler looking bosses(including mother fucking Dark Samus).

Making your opinion objectively wrong.

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>>381720793
Glad to heard you had fun anon, now go beat Prime 2, it only gets better and harder from there specially if you play Hard Mode, expect to get rek more often than in Prime 1.

>>381722192
I hate how devs hide difficulty modes behind finishing the game first, he has to play normal before he can hard

>>381720793
I also beat it for the first time yesterday
Loved the 2d metroids and heard a lot of good things about prime, shit was fantastic

>>381722296
On the Wii version, there's 3 difficulties. Normal and Hard are unlocked by default. Hypermode is unlocked by finishing the game.

>>381722296
I through the Trilogy had it unlocked on the get go no?

>>381721681
MP1 was mostly Nintendo's game and Retro developed it for them. Retro had more freedom for MP2 and 3 and those games weren't as good as the first one. By 3 they were already trying to make it into a halo game.

So yeah I'd say MP4 will be fine.

>>381722686
Is hyper hard mode rebranded or an actual new and harder difficulty?

>>381722686
>>381722710
hypermode is hard, hard is normal. they renamed them to normal (easy), veteran (normal), hypermode (hard, only unlocked when you beat the game)

>>381722825
It's just hardmode from the GC version, AFAIK. Normal is the new difficulty, and Hard is the GC's normal.

>>381722742
>2 wasn't as good as the first one

implying

Is it me or does the first person in Prime feel awkward at times? I'm usually good at FPS stuff, but a lot of things in the Prime games seem really disorienting and that's made worse by the slow turning and narrow FOV.
I love 1 and 2 other than that, though.

>>381713705
For some reason, while I didn't like it much back then, I played it again in the trilogy and I think 3 is actually pretty good.
It's just vastly different from the 2 first first games in terms of pacing : there is much more action and much less exploration. I think Retro tried to change a bit the formula and that's probably why I was upset when the game came out. But now, I don't know, I think it holds its ground really well, in the end all 3 are at least very good games.

Nintendo must definitely announce the trilogy HD remake for the Switch though. Playing Metroid Prime on a handheld device is like a dream.

>>381721817
Its difficulty was bullshit. Dark World was both linear but because just being in there hurt you it never was fun being in there until you got the light suit. Which is about 2/3 into the fucking game. And unlike other Metroid games where you might just have to run through it once and get a suit to never worry about it again you are always thrown in there. 2 could have been great but it was just a slog to go through.

3 was awful because going to different planets and meeting the Federations never felt right for a Metroid game.

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>>381723485
>got to see more of the federation
>no aliens
>no luminoth

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Since Prime 4 was announced I downloaded Prime 1 GC version for my Wii, it's my first time playing and I have died a few times, is this game actually hard or I need to git gud?

>>381723209
It definitely feels weird at first (I was also used to "regular" FPS) but the way the game is designed with the lock system makes up for that type of controls. After some time, you'll get used to this control hopefully.

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>>381723209
>narrow FOV
Let's widen it up my dude.

Anyway though, I feel like there was some weird stuff with perspective going on at times, but other than that I never really had any issues with it.

>>381723679
The controls are not very intuitive at first, so that can explain why you're struggling. But yeah, MP1 is not extremely hard but still a bit difficult at times.

>>381722945
That pretty gay. But to be fair normal mode was pretty rough on the GC and Hard was raping at times.

>that faggot who was trying to sell "Metroid Prime Trilogy" on eBay and it was the two GameCube games and 3

>>381715743
The main theme of MP1 and MP2 always make me shiver...

>>381723909
Would this work for Oculus Rift?

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>Trilogy version of Prime 1
>Ice Troopers are now immune to missile shattering.

why.jpg

>>381724605
Well, this exists, so I suppose the answer is yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0Z2SBJUa88

I really don't like motion controls, does it make that much of a difference?

>>381712808
What's with all the Metroid threads lately?

>>381725441
I don't like them in general either, but they're actually great in the Prime games. IMO, they're better than the GC version.

>>381720793

I played through the Metroid series for the first time about 7-8 months ago, played Prime 1 and 2, then Super, Zero Mission, and Fusion, eventually got around to Prime 3 a few months ago. I honestly enjoyed the fuck out of all of them, both the 2d and 3d ones were great. Fusion was probably the weakest of the ones I played, it was fun, but I didn't like the linearity and level design of it. Prime 3 had a bit of a different atmosphere and exploration, but I still enjoyed it a lot.

>>381725680
See it's odd because I've only played prime 3. But that was awhile ago when I tolerated motion controls. I just like being in a comfortable position when playing my vidya

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>>381725586

>>381725881
same guy
How much better is prime 1? I fucking loved prime 3 but it's literally the only metroid game i've ever played

>>381726205
They're kind of different. Prime 3 is a lot more linear and action focused/cinematic from what I remember. Prime 1 is more about exploring the world, and there's very little focus on story.

>>381726205
>literally the only metroid game i've ever played
You got some catching up to do, anon. You should for sure try out Super and Prime 1 if you're interested in playing more of the series. They're both better than Prime 3, as good as that game was.

>>381712808
You mean tetralogy.

>>381717321
Again, 2>1>3. In fact, 2 is the best Metroid game.

>>381721817
>Prime 1 and 2 have the same amount of Level design greatness on it
This is objectively wrong, the difference between them is like comparing Dark Souls to Dark Souls II Prime 1 and Dark Souls are the only 3D games that have god tier interconnected world design and it's a shame they dropped it for the subsequent games.

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>>381726035

>>381727507
Playing Prime 1 right now, just got past the tutorial level. I've got a nice little 17 inch CRT to play older games on which is working real nice. I'll give super metroid a go afterwards.

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>There is no hope left for us. Soon, we too will be among the enemy forces. The last of us now stand before the brink of history's end, silently waiting out our final hours.
>I am Elysian, descendant of both the Chozo and the First. I am facing the last moments of my life and transferring my memory to the data pod.

I bought Echoes for GameCube as well as the official guide, so pumped to run through

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LudFV61zsaw

>>381723679
I think it's just your first time so you're not used to it. Git gud before MP2 or you're fucked

>>381728635
You should start by Super Metroid. It will make you see how wonderful they took the 2D elements and the game in general into the 3d perspective.

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Let's get some more polygons up in here.

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>>381730124

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>>381730124

is this science

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>>381730249
You will be tessellated.

>>381730332
Of a sort.

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Why does Super Metroid's NA boxart look so much worse than the JP one?

This looks like it could be a cover of an OVA.

>>381712808
I genuinely think the first Prime is a damn good game. The rest are just no where near as good, especially Echoes. Man what a fucking disappointment shit fest that game was compared to the first. Three was just okay. Honestly, I'm more worried than I am hyped for Prime 4.

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>>381730441
If you add normal maps to the textures, you can use the tessellation and displacement to do stuff like this. Unfortunately, the textures are generally too small to make it look good. But, in theory, this could be amazing.

>>381730802
That is really damn cool. Does Dolphin have support for higher resolution textures?

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>>381731089
Yeah, you can load in any custom texture you want.

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>>381730461

Poor Kraid.

>>381731217
Would the normal maps be more tame if you had loaded a larger texture?

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>>381731286
Most likely. I'm not an expert on it, but basically, Dolphin's displacement works based on the amount of detail in the normal maps. So if you have a small texture, there's not a lot of detail for them to work with, and you wind up with the vague lumpyness shown in the webm. Larger textures would probably allow it to make much more defined details out of the maps.

>>381715886
"Oh my god, it can attack the 4th wall!"

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>>381731610
That said, even just using maps to add specular lighting effects to the textures can, in some areas, have a surprisingly nice effect.

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>>381731837
I should clarify that that's the original snow texture, just with a specular map added in the second image. Here's another example. Top left has per vertex lighting, top right has per pixel lighting, bottom left is just with a specular map, bottom right is with that and a tiny bit of displacement, though you can see it still doesn't manage to look very good with how small the textures are.

I'll fuck off now because this is only tangentially Metroid related. But if anyone has the talent, I wish someone would make some high res texture replacements for these games.

>>381713705
3 was good

>>381725586
they just announced 3 new metroid games

>>381713705
Yes, but it looked the best and was still a good game.

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>>381719301
Sure anon sure

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Best boss fight in the Prime games. Yes or yes?

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>>381733014
Yes but only if you skipped the Dark Suit and fight him with 5 or less energy tanks.

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>>381715743
Patrician taste my nigga

>>381733014
Yes. Quadraxis is fucking rad. One of the few boss battles where you had to use almost all of your upgrades

>>381733316
Emperor Ing was fucking excellent as well. What a climax.

1>3>2

Love them all, but dark world is annoying to me
and 3 is better then most people let on

What are the odds of the Prime Trilogy getting a Switch port?

I'm just getting into the series and beat Zero Mission.

Prime 2 had the best boss battles and Sanctuary Fortress is the best area in the Prime games.

It's just a shame the dark world areas were meh for the most part

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>>381733568
>Prime 2 had the best boss battles
It also had the worst.

>>381733014
I agree with this, but for me Chyyka was a close second. That is an underrated boss fight

>>381721681

Retro not making it isn't a big deal. Most of the Prime staff including the series director got jobs at other studios.

prime 3 was only bad because it came out during the CoD and Halo era, and that was in back then

2>1>3

The boss design in Echoes was amazing. All areas of Torvus bog were absolutely fucking incredible. 3 was by no means weak, it had its share of amazing areas as well. GFS Valhalla was a fucking masterpiece of atmosphere.

>>381733653
I feel like that was the case with everything in the game. It had the highest highs and lowest lows of the 3 prime games

>>381721681

Almost none of the people that made the MP games are still even at Retro, so it literally makes no difference

>>381733653
>worst

I dont know if I would call that a bad boss battle, though. Difficult, yes. Maybe a bit of RNG fuckery on whether you got hit by the boost ball is arguable. It was very satisfying managing to get him down, though.

One thing I really appreciated was Prime's willingness to experiment with puzzle-bosses. Spider guardian and P-Bomb guardian were very clever, I thought.

>>381733529
10% chance. Not impossible, but unlikely.
It's more likely that we'd get metroid prime 4 announced.

>>381733653

I still don't get all the hubbub about this guy. Literally all you have to do is stand in place near the edge of the arena and Space Jump when he's boosting around.

>>381733720
Torvus bog and Sanctuary Fortress were fucking incredible. My only issue with Torvus was the lack of a save station before Alpha Blogg. If you die, that's a hell of a journey back to it.

Agon Wastes was pretty mediocre for me

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*blocks your path*

>>381733673
the series director is for the best, he's been on record saying he hated working on the metroid prime series and thinks they're terrible games

>see elitre pirate in a glass tube
>not sure if the fucker is going to attack or not

>>381733953
Spider Guardian was way more difficult

>>381733529
>what are the odds?
that really only depends on a few factors;
>how much effort would it take to port
>is there money to be made from the ports
>do we still have the source code in the first place

>>381733995
*lays a power bomb*

>>381734005

Was it this video or elsewhere?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbmxfTZvVCs

Is it odd that one of my favourite things about Prime 2 is that your ship is less damaged every time you beat a boss?

>>381733653
You can one shot him with a super missile

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>>381733668
correct

>>381734302
Several times he's said it.

Anyone else like the light, dark and annihilator beams from Prime 2 more than the beams from 1?

I think they get a bad rep because of the ammo system, which is admittedly pretty stupid, but the beams themselves were great.

>>381734479
Link?

why did they retcon all the original lore in NTSC
where's my beam effects and water rippling
the trilogy version sucks

>>381734387
Or a Power Bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA1edRgxXRw
>>381734480
>ammo system
Automatically garbage.

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>>381734554

NEVER FORGET LOREGATE

>>381734479

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/04/19/batman-meets-metroid-in-arkham-origins-sister-game.aspx?PostPageIndex=2

This says that he can't stand playing them due to burn out from developing/testing them and being unable to not think about mistakes he made making it, not because they're shit.

Wonder if he'll enjoy Prime 4.

>>381734514
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/22/ex-metroid-prime-dev-thinks-his-games-suck

>>381734623
Why'd they even feel the need to change that?

>>381734614
Again, the ammo system was shit, but the beams themselves were awesome. They should have had unlimited ammo like all the other beams she had.

Probably would have made the game more enjoyable overall

>>381733653
implying BB guardian is bad, git gud

>>381734480
The beams in Prime 1 barely made sense.

Wave beam doesn't go through walls/certain walls. (We later got it somewhat as the Nova Beam)
Plasma beam is fire and doesn't pierce enemies.

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>>381734554
>why did they retcon all the original lore in NTSC

Because it was a huge fucking plothole.

>hey the space pirates managed to snag metroid prime from the impact crater
>but how did they get in there without all the chozo artifacts?
>uuuuhhhhh

>>381734815

Maybe Sakamoto threw a fit at the idea of the Talion 4 Chozo only dying off just before Samus came.

>>381734803
Actually I never read that one before and it puts it in a different light than what I had previously read. This one implies that he just could only see the flaws in his work and was sick of looking at it. That's fair.

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>>381733668
Between Chykka Larva and Amorbis, Prime 2 had some weirdly phallic bosses.

>>381735157
I love how closely the final product ended up looking like a lot of the concept art.

>>381734942
Yea, I didn't like the wave beam or plasma beam all that much in 1, though incinerating space pirates with the plasma beam was fun.

I really liked the ice beam though and the power beam behaved like it should

>>381735079


I've heard other devs make similar complaints. They can't enjoy a game after spending years assembling and testing every bit of it.

I hope he plays and can enjoy Prime 4.

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>>381733668
Chykka was cool. Was nice to get an actual use out of the seeker missiles and the adult form design was great

>>381734827
Annihilator beam would have been severely broken if it didnt eat up more resources than your mom.

>>381734992
alright then explain to me how prime has pirate weaponry, faggot
it just makes another plothole
those logs were some of the coolest shit in the game

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>>381734382
wait seriously i never noticed that

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>>381712808
Pretty universally good suit and canon designs, A+.

>>381733681
Nah, it's actually quite dull and easily the weakest of the three. I replayed it a few months ago after replaying the other two with months of space between them and ended up with a bittersweet taste.
The attempt of plot with all the corrupted bounty hunters, the computer that wouldn't shut her stupid mouth up, the excess of gimmick shit like having to shake enemies instead of shooting them to death... Those are things that made the experience worse to me.

In fact I feel like Corruption is actually closer to Other M than to the other to Primes.

>>381712808
1=2≥3

I say this as someone who's had thr displeasure of playing Other M.

>>381735815

Go back and scan it every time you restore Aether's energy, it has a new scan and is less damaged every time.

>>381734623
DRESSED FOR WAR
DRESSED FOR WAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO4dDgp_tUA

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I fucking love the light suit. Anyone else?

>>381736086
It's breddy gud but I wish that the in game models used the concept art versions of the cannons for the Light and Dark suits.

>>381736086
the pointy knees are kind of odd, but otherwise 10/10 design

POUNDS AND POUNDS AND POUNDS OF BEEF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEuLRtAG8Lk

>>381735157
>Amorbis
I fought this boss for the first time a few days after attending an Amorphis concert. Was a very strange coincidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkRxjrlgzp0

>>381736158
can you spoonfeed us the concept arts please

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>>381735782
>alright then explain to me how prime has pirate weaponry, faggot

Could've easily been retconned into natural abilities if they went back and retouched the log entry. Not like you can see any actual pirate tech taped onto Prime's body anywhere.

>>381735407
I remember not having a clue about what to do for this boss for like 20 minutes, then I remembered the seeker missiles

>>381736086

The light and dark suit both did a really good job of making it feel like non-chozo entities designed those suits.

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>>381736375
Samus I'm authorizing concept art.

>>381736445
Probably the most useless item in the whole series.

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Who /hyped/ here?

>>381736445
Prime 2 should have done more with the seeker missiles and screw attack

>>381736538
I'd say they got it pretty damned close, all things considered.

>>381736553
I'm more hyped for the one with no gameplay footage yet, Samus Returns looks like a giant disappointment. Outdated hardware, choppy animations, jagged textures, oversaturated color pallet, TEAL ARM CANNON.

Prime 4 has a pretty low bar set for it now.

>>381736574
Not much you can do with the Screw Attack, it's just not an item that works in 3D.
Outside of the required areas it's only useful for one hitting Emperor Ing.

Flaahgra's full theme getting improperly looped in the NTSC versions is fucking criminal. Everything that comes after the beginning part that got looped is infinitely better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhnrH30411A

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>>381736393
>shoots missiles
>has the exact same beam specific armor the pirate troopers had
>not pirate tech
really makes me think

>>381712808
where's 4?

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>post yfw Kraid returns in Prime 4

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>>381736725
>all this time I thought her theme was just really boring and generically alien sounding

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>>381720793
From what I understand, the astounding effects on Samus' arm cannon couldn't be ported over to the Wii version for some reason. I want to try to motion controls, but the first time I charged up an ice beam and the arm cannon didn't freeze over, I think my heart would break. I missed out on the N64/PS era, so that was the first 3D game that I ever owned. I have those graphics burnt into my soul.

Comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGjgfSwOPw0&spfreload=10

>>381735782
>>381734992
How about this

Metroid Prime can come and go as it pleases because Metroid magic. Not like anybody knows how Metroids work anyways, also iirc they weren't supposed to be on Tallon IV to begin with.

It just chooses to stay at the crater because that's where the most phazon is.

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>>381736665
Word, I just think that it's cool that the concept art versions have the arm cannons match the overall suit aesthetics more.

>>381736868
>her

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>>381736858

>>381736981
>clearly based off a mantis
>hasnt been eaten by a bigger one yet

If flaaghra's a dude, I'd hate to see what the lady looks like.

>>381736553
The only thing I hate about it is that I have to wait three months for it.

>>381737140
>Morphology: Flaahgra
>This mutant plant is the source of toxic water in the Ruins
It's a plant and most plants are hermaphrodites.

>>381736008
kek the giant chozo ghost always kills me

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>>381738209

>6+ years old filename
>tfw I still struggle to run Dolphin this well because AyyMD

>>381713705
Yeah but it's still a great game.

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>>381738817
I have a RX470 and the game runs 99.9% flawless, what are you having troubles with?

>>381713630
2 is bretty gud though

>>381739429
I was under the impression that your GPU doesn't matter nearly as much as your CPU.

I'm using bulldozer which is poor for emulation.

>>381736872
They moved Prime 1 & 2 over to 3's engine

Prime 3's engine was downgraded in some aspects since Wii wasn't that much more powerful than GCN

>>381739527
Oh, you were talking about CPU

I dunno if they fixed things in 5.0, but I had to test for like 20 minutes into the menus until I got the correct configuration. Maybe it's something like that

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>>381730565
>Honestly, I'm more worried than I am hyped for Prime 4.
Because the devs all left for Bluepoint or Armature?

>>381739956

>leaving a company that produced some of the greatest games of all time to work on shovelware and ports

That's fucked up. I understand that the pay was probably better or something, but fuck, man.

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>>381719301
>Adam's face when he an hero'd

Post Adam's face when he committed sudoku

>>381740208
It's the Texan mentality

>We got bought out by the Nips? Better start leave for other Texan owned companies to remaster OTHER companies games!

>>381740239
That was the face he had when he authorised Samus take his semen.

>>381723679
Git Gud. It gets easier once you get double jump and Varia Suit to protect your ass. Then it's much easier...
Until Phazon mine where your sweet boi pussy is going to get stretched to the max by beam pirates and the omega pirate

Oh and if you enjoy it and get Echoes, don't sit on it. Echoes pretty much assumes you remember how to play so the difficulty ramps up muuuuch faster

Boost Guardian

>>381719301
I really want a new Other M game post Fusion with a few tweaks and a different map it could easily be the best Metroid

>>381740208

Making Prime was a shitload of work and they had to deal with Nintendo bossing them around too much for their liking.

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Where do I get ISOs for dolphin now that emuparadise's nintendo titles are kill?

>>381740740
So they decided to go to companies where they made such classic as
>Metal Gear Solid ""HD"" collection (Vita)
>Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate (3DS)
>Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate (Vita)
>Injustice: Gods Among Us (Vita)
>The Unfinished Swan
>Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (PS4/Xbone)

>Blue point:
>PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale (Vita)
>Flower (Vita)
>Titanfall (X360)
>various Playstation remasters

Wew, it sure must be good to have no company bossing them around

>>381740953

Buy the trilogy digital off of the eshop :^)

is coolroms still alive? Everybody I know who didn't use Emuparadise used coolroms

>>381734049
>You see an elite pirate in a glass tube
>At this point metroids and other shit HAS jumped out at you so you're worried
>Nothing happens
>Next time too
>Then one finally does bust out at you.
>"I FUCKING KNEW IT"
Prime games were so fucking good at getting you to think a certain way.

>>381740239
Everything about that scene is so comically bad, I almost love it ironically.
>Samus spends like 30 seconds before deciding she'll freeze the baby metroid.
>Adam shows up out of nowhere and shoots Samus in the back.
>a single shot from a GF freeze gun deactivated her power suit knocks her to the ground, making her vulnerable to the metroid.
>Adam explains he had to stop her from trying to freeze it because it might not be freezable since it's one of the GF's cold-resistant metroids.
>Despite the fact that he had just frozen it himself a few seconds ago after incapacitating Samus.
>Sector Zero is a whole wing of the space station full of Metroids that can't be frozen
>Oh cool maybe that'll be a cool Tourian-like final area
>Nope we're detaching it from the station and blowing it up
>"If there's significant damage to the sector, it's programmed to detach and self destruct"
>For some reason, Adam must be inside the sector to do this instead of using some kind of remotely triggered bomb or something
>Kills himself to kill the Metroids
>Metroids show up later anyway
It's fucking incredible in a way.

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>>381713189
MP2 is a 6/10 at best. Other M was better.

So I'm replaying super and I'm kinda stuck. I just go to the power bombs and the first thing I though the od was to go to Maridia and break open that glass tube. So I make my way in there bearing with the non gravity suit water physics, but I keep going and enter a section where the door behind me closed shut. So I keep going and end up in that room with the sand and water and can't get out. What the fuck?

>>381739956
>>381730565
I'm not worried. It's logically impossible for it to be worse than Other M so even if it's shit we get to justify it that way.

>>381742094
>Being this retarded

Find your way out. I don't know exactly where you are and it's too late for me to guide you out but you take your fat ass into norfair and use powerbomb to go through a door, explore that passage.

>>381740953
Getting the games that really use the wiimote to work with the 360 gamepad or mouse + keyboard is a bitch.

Ishiiruka is better than vanilla Dolphin.

>>381742094
Go get the gravity suit from the wrecked ship Anon. If you don't have it you have no reason to be in meridia.

>>381742094

Entering Maridia before you find the Gravity Suit is completely unnecessary unless you're doing some crazy challenge run bullshit. There's some Power Bomb blocks in one of the passages that led to the Ice Beam you can go to.

>>381713031
Yep.
>>381713189
Nope.

>>381742216
>the Other M is bad meme
lol

>>381722861
I hated that shit since it tricked me when I first played Corruption.
Calling easy mode normal is a god damn sin for developers.

>>381713031
1 > 3 > 2

2 is too inconsistent to be anything but last. Half of the time it's brilliant and half is a boring slog. 1 is brilliant nearly all the way through and 3 is really good most of the time.

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>>381742383

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>>381736872
>Ice beam charge shot doesn't ice over the cannon
>mfw

>Game known for cool as fuck little details
>Don't preserve some of those details in the remaster trilogy pack bullshit
why

>>381736872
The arm cannon effects are just static images, they wouldn't work with Wii controls where you can move the gun around.

>>381742714

Disc space and some of them being hardware hacks that would take months to port.

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>Get X-ray visor
>Lights turn off and metroids break out
Was never so terrified during the afternoon as a lad. Think the first person view of metroids latching onto my face traumatized me.

>>381742714
It's because the cannon rotates now with aiming. Yeah it sucks but honestly the motion controls are worth it. I really fucking hate the gamecube controls now. I'm probably in the minority here.

What is Retro working on

>>381742906
You mean Thermal Visor right? That was a fantastic segment.

>>381742970

New I.P, potentially about pirates was the last rumor I heard.

>>381742970
Cyberpunk Donkey Kong

>>381742970
Donkey Kong

>>381735621
It comes at the end of the game, like the Phazon Suit and Light Suit. Having a strong set up so you can go back through the world and stomp all over things was the reason introduced the Artifact and Temple Key hunts in the first place.

>>381743010
Oh yeah, that. It's been a while.

>>381743113
>>381743073
I'd like another one, but is there a reason you two think so?

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>>381742687

>>381743209
Donkey Kong sells better and is better than Metroid

>>381742548
you should be playing on the hardest mode available anyway

>>381740953
I find it weird that Coolrom has ALL games from Nintendo consoles removed while emuparadise ONLY the Marios, Zeldas etc. but the rest of Gamecube/Wii is still there.

>>381735880
like I said, when action fps's like halo 3 and CoD were getting popular, the art team changed the style from a lone wanderer to action paced intergalactic battles game

>>381739956
No wonder Prime 3 was so bad.

Convince me Prime 4's team won't be another 343

I just got the trilogy on Wii U Eshop

What am i in for with all 3 games? I heard they all take different design apporaches or whatever.

>>381743846

Prime 1 is the best game

It's Nintendo's idea made by Retro

Prime 4 is Nintendo with a newer team

It's going to be fine

>>381739956

Retro isn't making Prime 4

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>>381743312

>>381739956

I don't care whose left

The fact of the matter is that Current Retro managed to make a better DK Game with Tropical Freeze than the leftover prime devs did with Returns

>>381740740

Ironic given that Tropical Freeze was current Retro given free reign and they did a kickass job

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>>381744171

The Lords of Science were here.

Primals are losers.

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>>381744872

>>381743846
Why would it? As long as Nintendo keeps strict watch over what they do then there shouldn't be a problem.
If they managed to turn a disaster company like Retro around I'm not really worried about what they'll do with this new team. The best things of the Prime trilogy were thanks to Nintendo and Tanabe anyway, not the people at Retro who already left to have zero success elsewhere.

>>381742087
Shut up you fat fuck. You're one of the better JewTube reviewers, but that doesn't make you automatically right 100% of the time. Sonic 2 > Sonic 3.

>>381746303
>You're one of the better JewTube reviewers
His Sonic 06 review still remains the best review on YouTube, watched it all the way through four times.

>>381746497
>best review on YouTube
Ha, no. That distinction belongs to this little old number.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSB9SZvtP2I&t

>>381736725
Fucking christ, this gives me shivers from first playing Prime 1 as a kid. I went back and beat it but I still got spooked by Flaahgra's theme and the Chozo ghosts.

>>381720793
does anyone have a side by side by side of the 3 varia suits?

>>381734815
Because the Tallon IV Chozo split off while the Chozo were still warlike and wouldn't have known about Samus at all.

were the Prime games in 60fps?

>>381732434
>>381731837
>>381731610
>>381730802
>>381730441
>>381730124

don't fuck off, this is the coolest thing in the thread

>>381747314
Yes

>>381747314
Yes

>>381747519
>>381747536
How did the games look that good and run at 60?

>>381747682

Very competent art direction.

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>>381747682
The gamecube was a powerhouse. Too bad it had those shitty mini dvds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkKX-nU9fX4

>>381747519
>>381747536
God I love the Gamecube.

>>381747682
Because of how areas are loaded. When you shoot a door it triggers the next area to load. Certain tunnels are used solely as well designed loading screens for the bigger areas that require more processing power. It's the reason why the door to the Artifact Temple in 1 takes forever to load.

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>>381747323
Well I don't have much else to post about it anyway. Unless someone talented makes high-res versions of Prime's textures, that's pretty much as far as I can go with that. Otherwise, if we want to talk about prettying up Prime with Dolphin, the only other things we can do are increase the resolution, add AA, and use gratuitous amounts of shaders.

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>>381748543
For reference, same shot at native resolution without any of the bells and whistles. Worth noting that this is still Dolphin, so it may not be the exact same as the image displayed by a GameCube.

>>381713031
/threa

>>381748543
>>381748818
Love the HUD but I think the dof, especially on the arm cannon, is a downgrade. It looks like a modern indie game now though so that's neato.

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>>381749164
Not him but you can turn off the hud in the games options

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>>381749164
Yeah, the DOF is partially what I meant by "gratuitous" shaders. It's more of a neat little oddity than anything I'd actually play with, but I imagine it could lend itself to taking some nice scenic screenshots.

It can also be pushed really fucking far.

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MP2 was the best

>>381749301
I was talking more about the shader effects on the life display. The HUD easily lends itself to enhancing the atmosphere of the prime games.

>>381749381
Do you have a shader setup that you would actually play the game with? I think bumping the resolution is the least you could do without it being intrusive to the original experience.

>>381749454
Mario Party 2?

>>381749454
*worst

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>>381749381
Something particularly interesting though is that there's a fog shader as well as light scattering, so you can disable the game's native fog and re-add fog that allows for a somewhat better view distance while keeping the same feeling. You can even make it whatever color you want.

>>381749596
Some scene tonemapping, very minor bloom, less dense fog. That's about it. Just to improve the colors a little bit.

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>played the crap out of MP but never actually owned a copy
>wound up getting MP2 down the road
>still have a GameCube that works
>want to go back and play the first one, but there's no way to get ahold of a copy without playing disk quality roulette with eBay
Send help

>>381750190
Time to mod that gc boy

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>>381749906
An example of how those shaders look, by the way. Top is without any and default fog, bottom is with the aforementioned things I would use. Honestly, I'm not even sure if I like the bottom better than the top.

>>381750687
Looks so weird being able to see the sky in tallon overworld

>>381751332
It's weird that they actually decided to model the sky in Tallon overworld. Every other area just has a skybox that follows you. Tallon has an actual flat layer of polygons above every room with the sky texture. I'd guess that they did it that way because the sky's texture is animated, while every other skybox is completely static.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUWtSrG6xKU

>>381736553
GameSpot: "Do you think we'll ever see a 2D Metroid on Switch?"

Sakamoto: "We are always, always thinking about ways that we can excite the fans of the series and come up with stuff that they will want to see and play, and we love that challenge, but there's nothing we can discuss in terms of Switch at this point. Yeah, we'll discuss it. (laughs)"

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2017-metroids-producer-talks-mercurysteams-cont/1100-6450980/

I'm starting to really believe that Metroid Dread will be on the 3DS.

>>381754353
May be Nintendo wants him to stay on the 3ds to avoid another Other M fiasco

>>381755045
I'm fine with that, I hope they add GBA to the 3DS VC that way I can have Metroid 1-5 plus Zero Mission and Samus Returns.

>>381717321
So then why are you all excited for 4?

>>381750687
While I like that there's more details to see now that the fog is gone, I think it personally ruins a bit of the atmosphere of the tallon overworld. The original landing site really gives off this opening in the middle of a super dense and mysterious jungle feel with the overly dense fog. The desaturated colors also help this out.

It's a damn shame the fog covers the otherwise great looking skybox though. A true HD remaster of the prime games where these shaders can be implemented on a scene by scene basis would be great to see.

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>>381755381
Becase that was a Retro problem, and they are not making 4

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You know this game is gonna be federation force art style cause Sylux is gonna be in game.

if anything, 1/8 of the game will take place on a space station fighting alongside federation soldiers.

>>381755987
just use tpb

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>>381755538
Yeah, I think those settings are better suited to other areas.

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>>381756881
But wait, a new challenger approaches. I think this looks better than both of those. And this is the problem, you can tweak stuff endlessly and not be sure what's best, and it's different for every area.

Dolphin can't seem to run Prime properly, what gives?

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>>381755987
>>381740953
I just DL'd it like 8 seconds ago, please git gud fellas

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>>381756881
>bottom pic

>>381756387
Anything aside from the ~10 most popular games will either have no seeders or won't be there at all

>>381757790
Yeah I can't seem to fix the audio on mine

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>>381758375
The fuck are you talking about
I just downloaded this one

>>381746303
>Sonic 2 and all its cut content
>better than Sonic 3

>>381759680
>>381758375
The PAL version has is also there but that ones for nerds

I'm replaying Metroid Prime and it's not nearly as good as i remember. It may just be because I've marathoned the 2D Metroids a few days earlier but Samus feels really sluggish and the platforming feels awkward. Metroid is my favourite series and the reason is because Samus's movement is smooth and the maps are designed in such a way that you can get to any area in the map very quickly. In Prime, the exploring just feels sluggish and since the game isn't optimised for speed like the 2D games, it takes ages to get anywhere. I've only just gotten the space jump so it may get better, but i remember Prime 1 being my favourite out of the three so I'm dreading replaying the other two.

>>381712808
Oh yeah? What fucking about it?

>>381759771
>Game cut in half
>Better than a game that's actually finished from the start

>>381759867
The spacejump makes things much better.

>>381759680
Woah, lot of seeders

>>381760114
Woah, the point is that it is there and you can get it

>>381760253
Except I'm not that guy and I've had it for years.

Didn't the Metroid Prime team work on Halo 4?

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>>381760323

I'm going to be contrarian here

1=2>3

All of them were good though

>>381713031
/thread

>>381719492
still better than Metroid 1

>>381760636
I agree actually. I don't really like the beam ammo system 2 had. Nor the stacking upgrades 3 did.

>>381760471

Some members of the team, yes. Not the whole team though

>>381760636
>All of them were good though

Yeah.

People need to take off their MP1 goggles, honestly. Or replay 2 and 3.

>>381719492
Samus actually controls a lot better in Metroid II.

>>381760636
That isn't the contrarian opinion.

>>381760968
I've played the first two more than I can count. Prime 1 definitely has more lasting appeal.

>>381760806

I thought the ammo system was a neat feature at the time, but now I just see it as unnecessary due to the fact that ammunition is so readily available in the game. All it does is merely simulate scarcity, instead of actually being a source of scarcity. Though I guess it did prevent annihilator beam from being completely broken in the final fight, at least for me.

Stacking felt unnecessary as well. Should have just been like Prime 1.

>>381760968

I feel the same way. In fact I must admit that I like 2 just slightly above, but ever so slightly that they're almost equal.

>>381760976

People are always putting 1 above 2, and then there's the occasional person putting 2 above 1. Very rarely do I see anyone saying they're equal. At least on /v/ it feels contrarian because everyone here is always fighting over what is better.

>>381761238
I suppose there's not much in it, and whichever you prefer could change depending on what you're looking for at the moment.
Prime 2 improves where Prime 1 was weak and vice versa.

>>381761285

Yeah, you're right. Depending on my mood, I choose one or the other. I tend to treat Prime 2 like a more 2spooky Metroid, and when I'm in the mood for something horror themed it's always my go-to game in the trilogy (Dark Aether was spooky as shit in my opinion). When I'm looking for a more pure experience, a Super Metroid in 3D, I go for Prime.

>>381723909
Require FOV of 360.

Is it just me, or are Metroid threads becoming comfy again? Ever since Samus Returns was announced, it seems like we've gone back to the way things used to be.

>>381761545
There's still a lot of shitposting imo, it differs from thread to thread

>>381761585

Yeah I guess you're right. Though for me it does feel at least a little more civil. That may also be because it's night time /v/ as well, and the fact that this thread has been overall pretty slow.

When they move faster, there's more shitposters.

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>>381761545
>Metroid threads becoming comfy again?
Only if the OP isn't related to AM2R or MSR, it's pure cancer and shitflinging otherwise

>>381741742
>>381734049
It's funny how Prime series were practically horror games

>>381713705
3 is Other M before Other M.

>>381761794
But that's Fusion

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>>381759680
>NGC

>>381717676
>3/4ths of the game is THAT level.
That's basically it. You're right.

The beginning area in Prime 2 where you keep finding dead Federation troopers and reading the logs is one of the most tense parts in any game I have played, the fact that there is pretty much no enemy's around just makes it worse.

>>381761545
The Monster Hunter threads took our bile

>>381761841

This. But /v/ has too much of a nostalgia boner for that game to see it. I say this as someone who was 14 or so at the time of its release, Fusion is overrated.

>>381762370

Good, they can have it. Monster Hunter has had it pretty good for the past few years on /v/. It's their turn.

>>381762872
I suppose that's fair

>>381712808
Is it worth replaying Prime 1/2 using the motion controls on the WiiU?

Does it add much to the experience?

>>381712808
itd be nice if they ported/remade them for the switch

i abhor playing fps games with a controller, but, stereoscopic aiming is pretty great

>>381715886
My favorite one of these is when you see her eyes in the reflection of the glass

>>381763958
It's especially cool in Prime 3 as she gets progressively corrupted.

>>381763876
I never played 1 and 2 on the GC, but I really loved the motion controls. I can't imagine playing them any other way. And that's rare for me, because I'm not a fan of motion controls for most games, but this time they felt like an integral part of the experience.

>>381712808
Trilogy no more desu