Spelunky > the binding of isaac
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Nobody disagrees, /thread
binding of isaac
>get god tier items and the game plays on autopilot
>or fail to get any damage upgrades and the game is gratingly slow-paced
spelunky and nuclear throne
>you can die at the drop of a hat even if you have the best items; items make little difference. it's all about skill. and it's fast.
rogue legacy et al
>lol grinding
>permanent progression is a slap in the face of what makes rogue such a compelling genre