>feeling burnt out on games >put in mario sunshine >extremely

What if water is wet?

>>381706437
>What if most modern games are just bad?

Explain why you're playing a shitty game then.

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>>381706437
Sunshine is pretty bad too but I liked it.
>the fucking blue coin stars
>fludd
>those fucking bullshit red coin stars

>>381706437
I can definitely say you have shit taste.
But as long as you have fun, no problem.

>>381706802
You don't need to do all of those things to get a satisfying ending.

>>381707183
Im well aware of that im just listing a few gripes that most seem to have with the game.
I personally enjoyed it and really liked the tropical theme and bowser jr.

>worst mainline Mario game is better than games today because OP played Sunshine as a child

>>381706437
I'm playing oot v1.1 right now. 100% completing this is more fun than any multiplayer game I've played in like 7 years.

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What's with the whole Sunshine is bad meme I've been hearing lately? I remember that game being incredible. What are the main complaints people have?

Maybe other games are just too stressful for you.

>>381708287
The platforming levels are fantastic. Then you realize they're only one minigame and the 90% of the missions are playing the dentist, moving watermelons and literally cleaning shit.

It's Mario game that forgot entirely what the series was about.

>>381708287
Its people that were born in 2001 who's 1st gaming experience was on the 360/PS3.

>>381708287
>Blue coins
>Red coins
>Yoshi is more of a liability then an actual help
>levels are really linear compared to 64
Also doesn't help that /v/ has become increasingly distasteful of Nintendo ever since they were permanently btfo'd by Breath Of The Wild.

>>381708287
Its the weakest 3D Mario, even 3D World is better

>>381708772
Absolutely wrong.

What i like and don't like about most modern games is that they're made with the intention for you to play them consistently for a long time. I prefer the way they were made when i was a kid. Beat one, onto the next.

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>>381708772
Hold up, do people not like 3D World, either?

>>381708829
3D World has platforming, which is kind of the whole point of Mario. I can't say the same for Sunshine.

I think with modern games its a hit or miss a little more than it used to be. Especially if you look at games that EA puts out, pay to unlock the rest of the game, im currently playing Shatae half genie hero and its nice throw back to good platforming, but i do find my self burnt out on games at times until i stumble on a gem.

Modern games are focused around competitive play and trying to make gaming into a job ie esports. Older games were pretty much only created for fun. Even halo 2 was just designed around having fun.

>>381708983
It's honestly a shame that the best movement mechanics and overall control (aside 64's) are locked away in sunshine, since in most other ways it is rather inferior to the rest of the 3D titles. But, its highs are just plain higher than almost all the rest purely thanks to how it controls

Op, checkout a game called blasphemous. It looks really fucking good for a 16bit indie game

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A common problem is that modern designers are simply bad at their job. That or the producers are wilfully melting gamedesigns into a minimum risk product - essentially shrinking the game to something that won't really blow you away but will probably be liked by a good amount of people.

Pic related came out in 1985

It literally implemented features that Skyrim used for marketing almost 30 years (!) later. Namely NPC day/night cycles. And ontop of that, the implementation in Skyrim wasn't even much better.

So how is that fucking possible?

It's either designers or producers.

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>>381708697
Mario Sunshine is the game of choice for underage Gamecube kiddies
>my face when kids who started with 6th gen think they're hot shit now

>>381709834
The gamecube came out in 2001

>>381710198
yes, and? my brother was born in 2000 and he remembers playing the gamecube. god 6th gen kiddies are the fucking worst.

>>381706437

Maybe you've just been playing shitty modern games OP. There's always and will always be shit games released annually. You just have to dig a little deeper to find what's good/interesting to you.

>>381710487
I want a platformer with as nice motion as sunshine, in a cheerful and fun environment

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>>381710315
>projecting this hard about your hatred for your brother
Why don't you just have sex with him like every other annoyed older brother does.

>>381708287
>Lately

Sunshine has always been seen as one of the weakest games in the series

>>381710739
????????
i dont hate my brother?

>>381710776
>talking smack about "gen 6 kiddies" like your brother
Just admit you want to fuck him and get on with it you raging homo.

>>381710867
what is wrong with you?

>>381710453
I wish I'd bought this game when I had the chance. I borrowed it several times but it was too late to find it in stores.

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>>381710914
I'm the one who should be asking that question mister.

>>381706437
>What if most modern games are just bad?
That is only half the problem. It also has to do with all of us growing up. When you're a kid, life is carefree and you want to see cool and edgy shit. So you're attracted to all these repetitive shooters and "story" games that are 2deep4u.

But as you get older and step out into the real world, you realize its shit and all you want are your feelings of innocence and happiness back. This is why games like Mario and Pokemon still sell well, cause you can just sit down, block out the world and go to a place that is more positive than real life.

I don't know about you, but I don't want to come home from a grueling day of bosses yelling at everyone over stupid decisions and only making your life worse just to play a boring rehashed shooting game.

>>381708772
>>381708981
Which one is the 3ds one?
I have 3d world or land on the DS and that game is fucking awesome

>>381711308
That's 3D Land
>fucking awesome
That's kind of sad, Anon

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>>381711425
>3D Land
>Bad
(You)

>>381711043

>>381706437
is there a way to play this game in 4K on PC?

>>381708287
It was a painfully rushed game.

If you said Mario 64 I would have believed you
Luigi Mansion was better than sunshine

>>381706437
I was also bored the other day and had some Odyssey hype left in me so I popped in Sunshine for the first time in years against my better judgement, but it only reminded me of how it enhances the boredom you might have and I quit before even grabbing the second shine.

>>381706802
Why did Ubisoft stick BJ's upper jaw so far out? He looks like a cartoon crocodile.

>>381710941
Emulate it.

>>381711308
If you loved 3D land that much then you'll be glad to know 3D world is an upgraded version of it in every way

>>381711510
>literally nothing but jumping and a single roll
Is this supposed to be impressive? You can do the exact same thing in literally every Mario game.

>>381712082
Are you implying that Luigi's Mansion isn't a masterpiece? Hands down one of the most fun games I've played and top 10 for the GameCube.

>>381712593
Yeah, 3D Land/World are easily the worst.

>>381712639
Mansion was good
I said Luigi game was better than Mario one in the GC

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>>381712973
>3D World
>Bad
?

>>381706802
So is Bowser gonna show up in that game or are they really gonna skip on the opportunity to have rabbid-Bowser?

>>381708287
It's the only challenging Mario game since jap super Mario bros 2. People shitting on it are plebs and casuals

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What games do you roll through at least once a year, /v/?
>FF8
>Paper Mario 64 and TTYD
>roller coaster tycoon
>Earth Worm Jim
>Medievil
>Spyro 1
>Rocket the Robot on Wheels
maximum comfy

By all accounts, sunshine should be objectively the worst 3d Mario:
>a good 40% of optional shines are trash
>even 10% of the required ones are shit: sand bird, red coin bloopers, red coins in general, chucksters, corona mountain
>game completely changes styles or takes away mechanics on a moment's notice
>saturation of level thematics
>Yoshi is unlocked by beating one specific mission that the game never tells you where to find
>Yoshi and fludd nozzles are pretty gimmicky, would have been better if you could keep them permenantly
>repeats level mechanics all the fucking time
>blue coins are a garbage mess, being mission-specific sometimes
>some 100 coin shines are mission specific
>camera is worse than sm64 somehow
Despite all this, its my favorite 3d Mario. It has some magic to it that only 64 comes close to. Galaxy and 2 are great, but for different reasons

>>381712250
Because Ubi is a garbage developer that hates fun.
>>381713253
Dunno. Im still in disbelief that M+R exists.

>>381713347
Yeah I'm sure it has nothing to do with the blatant unfinished state of the game and half the missions being terrible.

>>381713420
Either sunshine or TTYD
Pikmin 2
Pokemon emerald
SA2 or shadow
I'm mid-2000s loving trash and I love every second of it

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if you think modern vidya is shit, why are you using sunshine as a comparison? lmao
besides having the best controls at that point, the majority of missions suck ass in that game compared to 64 and I hate 64 too
a lot of them are just copy pasta cancer like chasing shadow mario or red coins. They even reuse bossfights.
Not a single area in the game has mostly good missions. Every area fucking sucks to play unless you run the game in the backround just for music.

Where is the last red coin on the sand bird?

>>381714506
The one on the tower
You might have forgotten the tail if not

>>381714506
There are only seven on the Sandbird itself, the last one is on the pillar in the middle.

test

>>381706437
Games are more fun after you've already played them

>>381713126
Best 3D Mario level I ever played right there.
I just don't know how they will tople that.

>>381714736
>>381714672
Woo thanks guys!

>Sunshine isn't fun
I don't know about whether or not it was a good game since the last time I played it to completion was when I was a wee lad, but the game is undeniably fun to play and even watch.

It's not modern games being bad, although there is a lot of mediocre garbage being released. The fact is that there has always been more mediocre garbage than actual good games in the industry, and in the moment people will often prefer the mediocre shit they're familiar with than the actual top-tier shit. The wheat and chaff is only filtered out through decades of retrospective analysis. That fact holds true for every single industry that has anything to do with entertainment. When people talk about the best console RPG's of all time you often hear them talk about Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6, but there's not a word to be said about the absolute dreck that sold quite well around the same time.

TL:DR Sunshine is a good game, you're just mistaken in assuming that it was only because of the time it was released.

i was feeling similarly but got every half life game for almost nothing (£3 instead of £43), and i can honestly say that modern games haven't even come close to the level of enjoyment. gonna play the first 3 COD game campaigns next.

>>381716026
+ i do however think that >>381715940
is probably right

Can I emulate this game no problem? I want to play it again, but my copy is bugged in one blue coin, so I cannot 100% it

>>381706437
>Mario shills
I swear to fucking God you guys are the worst. Mario fucking sucks. Get over it and tell Nintendo to learn some new FUCKING TRICKS ALREADY.

>>381711510
seems like they really really liked the user created levels in portal2

I think it stems from the fact a lot of the older talent are retired. Look at Bioware. Their older games, while not perfect, did a lot of cool shit and tried stuff. Their newest stuff is done by new people who grew up on MMOs and it shows.

>>381713420
>Armored Core: Master of Arena
>Shadow Hearts
>Viewtiful Joe
>Super Castlevania IV
>Metal Slug games
Reminds me of better times.

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>>381710914

>>381716225
Yeah man just download dolphin from
https://dolphin-emu.org/

And here's the wiki for the specific settings you need to get the best experience
https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Super_Mario_Sunshine

>>381709834
Gamecube was my first console and I think that Sunshine is irredeemable garbage

>>381706437
Nintendo's older stuff is much better than their newer games. It's prob why your enjoying it more.

>>381717353
Mhm that might be it, might just be nintendo.

Manta ray was the best boss.

>>381717353
Nah Sunshine is just a garbage game

>>381709834
I'm 25 and I like the game you underaged frogposter

>>381719328
This.

>>381717042
young and dumb

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>>381712250
> He looks like a cartoon crocodile.
he pretty much is one

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If anyone says /v/ isn't a bunch of counter-culture hipster cunts, show them a thread about Super Mario Sunshine. One of the best, most unique, most innovative, well polished, and best controlled main series Mario games. They hate it because they're counter-culture hipster cunts.

It surpassed Super Mario 64 in polish, control fluidity, level design, and level variety. The one thing it's definitely not is a rehash of 64. Rehashes being something that /v/ vehemently hates.

It's not perfect. You're retarded to think any game is, will, or should be perfect. A handful of blue coins are obtusely hidden and a few of the levels straddle the line of difficult and obnoxious. You can enjoy a game and recognize its flaws, you retards. Most of those flaws aren't applicable if you're not a 100% completion nutter, anyway.

>>381722737
I've thought Sunshine was the weakest of the 3D Marios ever since I played it on release, I enjoyed 64 more and then when Galaxy 1 and 2 came out I enjoyed those more

Sunshine is just really flawed despite having a unique concept and there's no getting away from those flaws

>Sunshine
What if you just have shit taste OP?

>>381713420
Half-Life

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Quick, one of you contrarian faggots tell me what to play, I can't decide.
>Mother 3
>Metroid Prime 2
>Twilight Princess HD

>>381708287
It's the worst 3D Mario

>>381723175
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare

Mario 64 >Mario Sunshine > Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario 3D land > Super Mario 3D world
Never played Galaxy 2, how is my taste?

>>381723557
3D Land and 3D World have nothing to do with the other four

>>381723708
The Galaxy games are way more similar to them than to 64 and Sunshine.

>>381706802
I know you are baiting from red coins, they wernt an issue

>>381706570
What if I'm wet?

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>>381722737
>It surpassed Super Mario 64 in polish
64 was finished.
>control fluidity
Correct.
>level design
Pic related, more than half of Sunshine's missions are garbage.
>level variety
64 had fifteen levels whereas Sunshine had eight.

The only one being contrarian is you.

>>381724778
and? TTC was fucking boring, every single star was just you climbing the same tower.

>>381724886
Sunshine was boring, every single shine sprite was spamming FLUDD and walking around a beach

>>381724886
I'll take any Star from Tick Tock Clock over cleaning Sirena Beach, cleaning the eel's teeth in Noki Bay, getting thrown by Piantas in Pianta Village, endlessly ground pounding to get a Durian in Ricco Harbor, popping balloons in Pinna, moving a watermelon from a hill to a shack in Gelato or the dreadful boat level from Corona.

Tick Tock Clock also had actual platforming elements, something absent from much of Sunshine's missions.

>>381708287

It has some flaws like too much padding out the game with blue coins, but I still love it a lot, I love the whole feel and aesthetics of the game.

>>381725048
Those are all fun tho.

>>381723175
Twilight Princess.

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>>381725639
Thanks, senpai. Hope it lives up to the hype.

>>381706570

FPBP

obvious

actually also SPBP
>>381706604


pretty obviously true too

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>>381725774
Not him but just be warned that the game has a notoriously slow start.

>>381724325
I personally disliked some of the red coin stages but yes you are right most of them were not an issue.

>>381709834
I'm 22 and I played it when it came out. Do you know what year it is Anon?

>>381706437

I'd say you're not looking hard enough.

>>381711694

Yeah, Dolphin

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Bumping with PTSD