say hello to the best controller ever made

how can I get it to work with my pc pls

>shitty dpad design

I don't think so

https://youtu.be/FOZ4EsGVBhM

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Hello Dualshock 4

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pic related is the best, but the switch pro controller is bretty gud tho I hate the way it looks

>>381691465
if your PC has bluetooth it'll connect and work pretty much immediately

>>381691509
there are a dozen flaws with this controller.

>>381691509
>DS
literally the worst on the market

>>381691675
It doesn't support x-input and therefore fails to work on most of my basic steam games

I suck ass at pc though maybe I should just figure out how to edit it properly

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>>381691392
>>381691509
>>381691547

And yet in most games a KB+M from 1980 would stiill destroy all of them

>>381691502
the best dpad

>>381691509
The dualshock design is bar none the absolute worst, especially this generation.

>>381691942
Not in racing games, fighting games, action games, third person games, etc. KB/M is only not trash for FPS.

>>381691392
this controller is pure kino
name 1 (one) better controller
protip: {spoyl4r)you can't[[spsadf}
name a more comfy controller
leave controllers to me.

>>381692937
xbone has a better D-pad

>>381691392
Wii U pro is better
>80 hours battery
>symmetrical sticks

>>381692937
*blocks your controller
This is a controller, say something nice to it.
Are you buying her controller, /v/?
KMB BTFO *sips controller*
How do we fix controllers?
What went right/wrong/indeterminable?
Pure controllerkino.

>using anything but a USB saturn controller
shit taste desu senpai

>>381693280
The glossy finish is shit though, that alone makes the SwitchPro better.

>>381691904
x360ce fixes all of that

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Most customization. Most accurate. If it it's played on a controller you're near guaranteed to get a better experience out of pic related. I hate Valve, but fuck they made the best controller ever.

Inb4 the uninformed are massively triggered

>>381691675
how do i use phone as bluetooth receiver?

>>381691392
why does this have digital triggers? That already makes it nonviable for a ton of 3rd party games.

>>381692450
Literally all of those but racing/flying games are better on KB/M than any controller. Its more intuitive and controllable than anything that relies on a joystick

>>381691509
I agree.

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>>381693717
I have 2 white controllers and they look pristine and clean all time.

>>381694123
>analog
useless

>>381691392
I wonder if I should return mine desu

dpad is shit and it has no headphone jack. $70 is pretty expensive too. joycons aren't that bad in comparison

>>381694045
You turn on bluetooth and connect to another device.

>no pressure sensitive triggers

Serious question; how will Rocket League work on the Switch? You can't accelerate, it's 0 or 100.. And you're supposed to be up against Xbone and PC players?

Switch owners will be fucked from the get-go.

>>381694171
>I have two white controllers
>>>/pol/

>>381691547
someobody give me a quick rundown on that dpad

>>381691392
The dpad is trash though

>>381691772
Such as...? I find it almost perfect except for the battery life

>>381694382
Imagine that you are pressing down on a fish.

>>381693971

Is that "dpad" good?

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>70 dollars
>20 dollars more than the industry standard for controllers
>Only features it has that the WiiU pro didn't for 40-50 was gyro, HD Rumble, half the battery life, and an amiibo scanner
>Gyro is in the DS4 and Steam Controller for 50
>HD Rumble is at the very least in the Steam Controller for 50
>WiiU Pro has a better battery life for 40-50
Only possible reason the price could be jacked up 20 bucks is the fucking amiibo scanner or Kimishima being a massive jew, guess which it is?
And to top it all off
>Paying 70 dollars for a Nintendo controller that doesn't have a Nintendo DPAD (See >>381691502's video for more on why specifically that's so shit.)

The Switch Pro controller is LITERALLY the worst first party controller on the market.

>>381693971
can confirm

>>381691509
start and select buttons are absoluttely retarded.
I'll take DS3 over this pos anytime

>>381693280
I love the Wii U Pro, but I still don't think it's better than the Switch Pro in terms of form factor and use in modern games.

It's amazing for virtual console, though. It's a SNES controller with extra buttons. It would be sweet if they updated the Switch to support it in the future when it eventually gets older games.

>>381694198
wow your reading comprehension is shit.

>>381691904
>what is DS4Windows
>what is steam's built-in controller support

Steam controller is best controller, though.

>>381694520

Care to explain why?

>>381694296
and that will send the signal to my PC?

>>381694171
it's a tragedy that this masterpiece was wasted on the wii fucking u. same with w101

>>381694490
t. sony fanboy

>>381694520
Excuse me, those are the SHARE and OPTIONS buttons. Are you blind?

>>381694465
takes getting used to for sidescrollers, but for everything else it's fine

>>381694465
It's not good as a D-Pad. Really good for things like Radial Menus and other miscellaneous in game keys. It's basically the Hotkeypad. That being said Valve should include a swappable d-pad somehow.

>>381693971
Don't you get the same level of customization if you use your DS4 in Steam?

>>381691509
Dualshock is the worst. You have to TAPE it to avoid it looking like a flashlight in the dark.

Dualshock 4 is like the Xbone. Has tons of stuff no one needs.

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gamecube controller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

>>381694465
Not great for dpad movement, but you should really have a dpad specific controller on hand even without the Steam Controller, none of the big 3's dpads are good for movement anymore.
But in games where you need to use the dpad for anything else like buttons it works perfectly fine. It really shines in games where you can do something like quick menus or radial menus with it.

Once you're in deep enough to the autism of the Steam Controller 3D analog movement on the pad is actually pretty neat though. I wouldn't recommended early on into getting used to the controller however.

>>381694703
Not even a little bit. I hate the DS4. I'm planning to look into using a WiiU pro as my backup for my Steam Controller that can do dpads and twinsticks for games that require them

>>381694198
Boy I sure would love to play racing games with fucking digital triggers.

>>381694854
its lacking buttons for movern games unfortunatly if they had made a version with two z buttons it would be much nicer

>>381694650
Do you think I'm a fucking wizard sitting behind your back?

>>381691509
God that's ugly

>>381694569
>in modern games
Well they both lack of analog triggers so neither are good for multiplat stuff and racing.

>>381695051
if i'm being honest the pro controller is pretty much that. pro controller is the true successor to the gamecube controller imo, although if they made one that looked like the gamecube controller i'd be suuuper happy.

>>381691509
>Dildo grips

>>381694301
Literally nobody cares

>>381693971
The customization could definitely be better (Less buggy, allow more fine tweaking of variables than just sliders, multiple modeshifts, combination presses, use of the center button) and it sucks that you have to do everything through steam.
It could also use 4 grip buttons instead of 2, the bumpers are a bit stiff to start with, the face button layout is a bit shit and the stick is vestigial.
I do really love those triggers though.

>>381694465
It's not really a D-Pad but it works well enough for 2D platformers if you only bind left/right to it.

>>381694646
Their soul purpose as a button is to be easily used. They fail at that.

>>381695003
Said no one ever

>>381693971
this is horribly incorrect

the right touchpad being used for a camera is fucking horrible. like trying to use a trackpad on a laptop, the buttons on the back are far to easy to accidentally press, the face buttons are awkward to hit, and the thing disconnects way too often

>>381691392
Its great
but fuck
i thought the DPad would be the best
Somehow I end up enjoying the joycon dpad more because the one I press ACTUALLY DOES WHAT I ASKED

Its a great controller, but fuck that dpad man.
Its good for a game with 8 directions/diagonals
but if its a 4 direction game, pressing left, and getting down is always a real possibility.

>>381691502
You have no idea how pissed off I was that I couldn't use that d-pad for Puyo Tetris because of all the diagonal inputs fucking me over. I've since gotten used to using the Joycon """""d-pad""""", but I still wish the Switch Pro Controller didn't suck dick

>>381694854
Its great
but its of its time
and games designed with it use it well
to use it for anything further forward is a waste of time, sadly.

>>381692937
Literally any other controller from this generation. Fucking hell, I'd take the Wii U Pro Controller over the shitty Switch one any day

If the pro controller was 50$ it would be great. It is a shit deal for 70$ however considering all its problems

>>381696647
Nah

>>381696752
t. Retard

Literally nothing about the Switch Pro justifies the 20 dollar markup over the industry standard. It's fucking highway robbery tier.

>>381696170
Brit fag

>>381696828
Not that it changes your argument much, but MSRP for the Xbone and DS4 is $60, not $50.

>>381696752
>Digital triggers
>Oversensitive dpad
>Not android compatible (Don't be lied to by the marketing this is a known issue)
Justify the price

>>381697250
Woops forgot one
>directinput

>>381695879
>The right touchpad being used for a camera is fucking horrible
What a shit opinion. Trackpads for aiming destroys stick. You personal preferences to remain on a fossil controller doesn't change the fact that trackpad aiming literally takes a hot shit on analog sticks.
>Better for small movements
>No turning speed cap
>Better range of movement speed for turning


It's literally nothing like a laptop trackpad
>Sensitive to the point it will detect your finger through an article of clothing
>Haptics allow you to feel where you're moving on the trackpads
>Doesn't have the heat of a laptop directly underneath it, which is what ruins the sensitivity of the trackpad on laptops after extended use at one time

>>381694453
>Such as...?
1. Still not ergonomic, or at least much less ergonomic than all of its competitors. Still has that Sony patented claw grip and finger tip balancening
2. Pointless flashlight on the back
3. Controller rests on shoulder triggers buttons
4. Shoulder triggers are much too sensitive
5. pointless unused and over sized track pad
6. options button crammed in between trackpad and face buttons, terrible location. No other competitor has anything like this issue
7. terrible battery life compared to its competitors
8. dual lower joysticks, still
9. Rubber thumbsticks are just worse than before, weird inset taper, small, rubber wears too soon
10. share needed a button i guess...
11. bar code on back always dog-ears and you can feel this constantly as you play
12. quite possibly the most fragile controller ever made. My work buddy literally broke his controller in half when he accidentally stepped on it
13. charging port is flimsy tends to break easily
14. charging cable is stiffer than a cum stained gym sock

inb4
>but I think it is fine

Anything is better than GameCube, holy shit is that a bad controller.

>>381694693
Not for me.
I got the mayflash adapter for it.
Still my favourite general purpose controller. Even over the Xbox One.

Im currently experimenting with the Steam controller since I got that on sale to try out. Kind of awkward atm but I hear it grows on you.

>>381694784
Note Quite, DS4 with steam inferface is close, but the Steam controller is way more flexible.

>>381697507
and I'll also add

15. segmented d-pad
16. face buttons still have 90 degree rotational symmetry when they are never used as directional inputs (same as Xbox1) where a button cluster like gamecube or a squashed diamond like switch pro allows more options for dual button input.

>falls
>breaks

RIP R2

>>381695625

No they dont, you hands are just deformed

THE DS2 IS LITERALLY PERFECT STOP ARGUING ABOUT THIS YOU STUPID FAGGOTS

>>381694490
DS4 is MSRP $59.99 for the standard black one. Other colors are $64.99.
Stores are free to sell them for less and the same applies to the Switch pro controller.

>Gamecube has the best controller! Go out and buy a Gamecube to go with it!
>WiiU has the best controller! Go out and buy a WiiU to go with it!
>Switch has the best controller! Go out and buy a Switch to go with it!
Keep trying, shills.

>>381696828
USB C cable on top of the already great build quality

>>381691392
I think it's one of the best for sure. Recently used the xbox controller while I was playing GTA and it didn't feel comfortable anymore.

>>381694152
that is bullshit and you know it.

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I personally prefer the nunchuck/wiimote combo, but I assume that I'm in the vast minority.

>>381694490
You're listing off different controllers that have one out of each of those features individually for $50 like it means that including them all at once would also total to $50. That doesn't make much sense.

>>381699124
Not enough buttons.

>>381691392
I think I like switching between each of my console's gamepads. They're all pretty nice.

>>381699337
Steam controller has all of the features of the Switch Pro (Hd Rumble and Gyro) and significantly more than that, except amiibo scanners, for 55. Goes on sale for 35.
I could buy two for the price of one Switch Pro.

The Steam Controller is basically a functioning testament to how jewish Kimishima's Nintendo is.
HD Rumble and Gyro are not fucking expensive. And if amiibo scanners are expensive why the fuck is there one in every controller? It's either retarded or it's greedy. But certainly not well designed.

>>381694490
>Trying to discredit switch pro by saying half the battery of WiiU
>When WiiU battery was black magic 60 hour craziness
>Ignores ds4 3 hour battery life

Kek

>>381694171
Does it have a headphone jack? Because that's literally a dealbreaker for me now that I'm so used to them.

>>381699028
>fighting games
>not excellent on a keyboard

Its just like a hitbox controller.

The fact Nintendo pathced the Pokken controller to be usable on switch but not the WiiU pro is fucking the ultimate Jew kike gook cunt move.

I get they want to sell the new controller but come the fuck on.

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>>381699715
>You hate Nintendo? B-but Sony
I hate Sony too faggot.
The Switch Pro controller is a piece of shit made to appear "luxury" and marked up as a result. It's literally fucking apple tier.

>>381694152
That's a claim made by someone who is too autistic to use anything but the device he's used to.

>>381698764
>b-but nintendo!

>>381699762
Nope. WiiU and switch both don't. Which sucks. I like using that too

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>>381699914
>Implying I mentioned hating Nintendo or Sony

I pointed out things you failed to mention in your shitty little breakdown. And then you failed to address them again when I pointed them out.

Shit d-pad.

>>381700107
I think this might be a remote?

>>381699914
>t-trust me I hate Sony guise!

>>381700107
>here, you're player 2

>>381691465
Wait for the next WiiNuPro release, should be out tomorrow.

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>I can't pass the controller bro

>>381699856
Can the Wii U pro controller use its cable for data transmission? That might be why it's not compatible.

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>>381694152
Boy, it sure is intuitive to use every digit but my thumb to control this crooked D-pad.

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This is one of the best controllers I've used.

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>>381700107
>SNES
>only in shape.
>Dpad on right
Fuck off with that trash.

Also, anyone that says "sness" and not "S.N.E.S." kill yourselves.

>>381700548
It is tho.

>>381700625
I still prefer it for RE4 and Metroid Prime and Echoes.

>>381694152
You're retarded. I love people like you that play on mbk with those games. Easy wins.

>>381694624
>Steam controller is best controller, though.
I don't hate the Steam controller, and even I know this is grossly inaccurate.

>>381700682
But your character only has digital movement, friendo.

Also: I played Botw with motion controls on, and I have to say, being able to tweak my aim with the bow that way doesn't leave me missing a mouse at all. I wish PS4 games would use sixaxis for aiming, too.

>>381691392
It ripped off the Xbox Controller.

>>381691392
They should have just kept the Wii U pro design and added all the new shit on top, not go back to that shit stick placement and shit dpad.

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>>381700548
>2017
>still not using RAGE

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>>381693810
I tried x360ce but not a single game recognized my controller, that program needs more documentation or something because it seemed hacky as fuck. Steam's big picture solution didn't work either because many games would try and recognize both the original switch controller and the x-input one steam is trying to fake, which fucked it all up further.

I guess I need someone to make me a retard-proof guide.

>>381694465
its good if you have it set to touch mode instead of pressing it down. worked really well that way for me in MKX

>>381699691
Steam controller also has no internal battery or integrated charging port. Naturally, it doesn't come with a USB-C cable, either. And it has one analog stick. There are certainly costs cut in other areas. If you're putting this all on Kimishima's Nintendo, then shouldn't the Wii U Pro Controller have had all the Steam Controller's features for $50 under Iwata?

>>381691509
This thing feels like shit. It's a downgrade from the DS3.
t. Touched in once in a store

>>381702323
>One stick was cut cost
>Trackpads are cut cost
You're retarded kid.

Iwata sold a controller that did everything a normal xbox one controller did, and had the best dpad and battery life, but for 10 dollars less than the Xbone controller or DS4.

>>381702946
And now they're selling a controller with what that one had, but with the addition of higher-grade bluetooth, accelerometer, gyro, HD rumble, NFC, and USB-C for $10 more than the DS4. The higher price isn't that strange for how much was added to it.

>>381699436
>12 buttons
>not enough

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>>381691392

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>>381691392
Richfag here, please explain to me why anyone would pay 60 quid for a fucking kids console controller. Im serious, its just too dumb of a purchase for me to justify.

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best d-pad, best sticks, best triggers, best face buttons, best ergonomics... Fighting game pros have won tournaments with this controller.

>>381704281
>And now they're selling a controller with what that one had
And Half the battery life.
>higher-grade bluetooth
Wow it's fucking nothing
>accelerometer
90% sure this is joycon only, if not, why the fuck is the waggle detector in the fucking pro controller where it will never do anything except jacking up the price
>gyro, HD rumble
Both standard in a 55 dollar controller
>NFC
Wow ANY controller can scan fucking physical DLC now? Oh fucking joy.
>USB-C
What does this even give the controller, faster charging times? This is a non issue on the WiiU Pro controller because it has a real battery life.
$10 more than the DS4

Dualshock is short bus tier. Beating it is literally not an accomplishment.

Like I've said before. The Switch pro controller is one of two things. Greedy or stupid.

>>381704646
>I only play mature games for mature gamers, sush as myself

My preferences > your preferences

>>381705189
You keep saying "half the battery life" like it's a bad thing. Half the battery life of WiiU pro is still 10 fucking times the battery of ds4

>>381705130
0/10 bait

>>381705130
>best d-pad, best sticks, best triggers, best face buttons, best ergonomics...
List reasons why they are better than its competitors. Until then see >>381697507

>>381704646
Buy one for your PC if you like it.

>>381694854
>shittest triggers ever

sorry nope

>>381705410
have fun playing mario kart with your "pro" controller bro

>>381697507
All of this. The only people who defend that piece of trash are life long Sony only consumers. Don't get me wrong, they all work just fine, but to completely ignore all the design flaws, the terrible ergonomic designe, the unforgivable dual stick locations is something that should be punishable by jail time or public humiliation.
>I think it's just fine
>I've never had a problem
1 year in the slammer
>but it has analog triggers
>pressure sensitive buttons
Labeled for life as a pedophile
>but it has the only good stick location
>asymmetrical sticks are impossible to use
Death
>you're holding it wrong
>use your fingertips you ape
Life long torture. Kept alive.

>>381705821
Not sure what this means

>>381700548
It is though.
How is three fingers on a dpad not superior to one finger on a dpad?

>>381705696
It works for PC? Well that changes things

>>381691392
>asymetrical analogues

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>381705516
And still an objective downgrade over their previous product.

>>381704646
Battery that lasts through 40+ hours of constant use
More comfortable to hold than a dualshock
The superior joystick placement (Left thumb on joystick, right thumb on ABXY by default)
Higher quality buttons than the dualshock
Superior D-pad to the xbone controller
Really, the only drawback is no analog triggers, but I can't think of a single game that has actually used that in recent memory. Basically you won't be able to play Super Mario Sunshine on an emulator with it.

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>>381706069
>People using 40 hour battery as a selling point when the last controller from this company had double the battery life
Marketer tier shit right here.

>no headphone jack

Nope.

>>381706212
>>381705980
Yet it's still up to 10x longer than current controllers on the market.

Shitpost harder.

>>381691942
There weren't really mice for regular consumers in 1980 but whatever you say.

>>381705940
It works for pc*
You just have to install third party software to spoof xinput that is buggy and will make the controller anything but plug and play.

>>381705976
Death

>>381706212
I owned a Wii U pro controller as well and I'm preeeetty sure it did not last anywhere near 40 hours of constant use.

>>381705976
Tier one
>dual upper
Tier two
>asymmetrical
Absolute shit tier
>dual lower

>>381705980
Because the upgrades and extra features add to the power consumption. It's not because they reduced the battery capacity or anything like that. That doesn't have anything to do with the manufacturing cost. It still has an extremely long battery life for a controller.

>>381705976
>Playing
>shooters
>on
>console
>unironically
Shiggy diggly digg nigg diggly doo

>>381706212
>>381706479
You're right, it probably lasted 60-80 hours. I use mine all the time for smash, 3+ hours after work every single day. I used to get confused when the low battery life came on.

>>381706536
Asymmetrical>>>power gap>>>>dual lower>>>>>>>>anything else

>>381706536
I want to mock a Sony fan boy right now but my brain can't create such a lie without massive anxiety attacks.

>>381694301
Tapping the button generally achieves the same effect. My friend plays with keyboard and mouse and swears by it

>>381694301
Tapping has worked fine in Mario Kart for years, as well as Fast Racing Neo on WiiU and the WiiU port of Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed.

You just tap it, it's the exact same effect pretty much. Totally workable but I doubt anyone's gonna be top tier and playing on Switch.

>>381697507
>inb4 but I think it is fine
As opposed to your "I don't think it's fine?"

>>381705589
>he actually quotes and references himself
I'm fucking crying

>>381707861
But you're right, it is only "just fine", which is still the worst aside from some features that make no difference in game play.

>>381707861
>le I think it's fine
Nice counter argument to 14 legit design flaws DS4 has compared to its competitors.

>>381705189
Higher bluetooth gives it better reaction time and more range. Switch controllers can work from about 37 feet away. To compare, the Steam controller has a range of about 16 feet.

Accelerometer's used in Zelda, at least. Ensuring symmetry between a double joy-con setup and the pro controller is important to avoid problems that the Wii U had with controller compatibility. If you want to criticize Amiibos, feel free to, but that's not something you can blame Kimishima for. And if gyro and HD rumble are standard in a $55 controller, why were they missing from the Wii U pro controller? Where are they in other controllers at that price that don't have other things cut?

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>>381693810
>A shitty broken per software emulator
>Fixing anything

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>>381708070
>all these things are the best on DS4!
>can you explain your reasoning?
>HAHAHAHAHAHA HE LINKED TO HIMSELF IN A REPLY CHAIN

>>381691392
can i connect this wired to my pc
don't have a bluetooth adapter, and don't want to buy one just for this since there's a chance it won't work since i accidentally fucked up my ds4 drivers

>>381694382
its good for fighting games

>>381702323
>Naturally, it doesn't come with a USB-C cable
It does though. You can't charge with it, but you can plug it into the computer directly.

>>381692450
>fighting games
better with keyboard. ever heard of a fightstick? or a hitbox? it's the same thing. much more reliable than controller.

If only it had analog triggers. I will most certainly buy one if I get a Switch, but I would love to use it as a PC controller too. But I would miss the analog triggers for PC games.

>>381708070
Reddit tier post

>>381710115
>But I would miss the analog triggers for PC games.
Other than racing games, do there even exist games that make use of analog triggers in modern times?

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Hello

>>381711489
Just racers and GTA. I want the feature, though.

>>381709953
Steam controller comes with a micro USB 2.0 cable, not USB-C. USB-C is more modern and more expensive.

>>381711585
I'd rather have the buttons colored if they're going to put an ugly color guide in the middle of the buttons anyway.

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>>381711530
What the fuck is that left thumb
What is that angle
What is that bulbous base

>>381694382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gzj0f9SrBs

>>381700625
That ABXY layout is grossly underappreciated, but from what I remember the C-stick and D-pad feel kinda shitty. I'd like to see a modern controler with a similar layout.

>>381713061
The C-stick perfectly fine, and in fact feels tighter to me than the normal joystick. I agree the D-pad feels off on the gamecube though. I don't know, is that maybe just because gamecube games rarely use it? Is it because of where it's positioned? It's definitely not because of its quality, I can tell you that much.

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>>381711530
I can't tell but something very wrong about this

>>381691392
D-Pad is fucking piss, likely worse than the 360 controller, and it costs $70 while not even having analog triggers

>>381691509
they managed to do worse than the previous dualshocks.
truly greatness awaits

>>381714295
>D-Pad is fucking piss
>I haven't tried it though
confused anime girl with interrogation mark over her head.jpg

>>381691547

Can confirm. The price is stupid but it's the best controller I've ever used.

>>381714463
No, I own it. And Nintendo somehow screwed up the one thing they have had right in control input on every console and handheld beside the Gamecube.

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>>381691547
So amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gzj0f9SrBs

>>381714695
I got confused by your using the word "likely"

> I don't know, is that maybe just because gamecube games rarely use it? Is it because of where it's positioned? It's definitely not because of its quality, I can tell you that much.
It's the position and how small it is

>>381691392
> no analog triggers
> no headphone jack

nope

>>381694650
No anon. No.

>>381697250
does it now work on android? huh thats weird, the joycons do at least

>>381714831
Oh. I haven't picked up a 360 controller in a while and never really used it in a platformer or fighter, so that is why I added in "likely"

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>>381691392
>shit d-pad
>best controller ever made
HAAAH!

>>381694490
>Steam Controller
But then again, why would I buy one even if it was cheaper, had HD Rumble and gyro if it's otherwise a piece of shit? Why would I buy a DS4 even if it's cheaper and has gyro if it's worse ergonomically, has 5 times worse battery life and no HD Rumble?

I think my ideal controller would be a PS4 controller made with better plastic/weight, the steam controller grips, and Xbox button mappings.

Really, I love the touchpad but I hate that I have to sacrifice a D-pad/right stick to have it on the steam controller

>>381714970
>what is wireless headset
>meme analog complaint
Pony

>>381700021
>asymmetrical dents in analogue sticks
>that weird fucking dpad
>plastic xbox bubble in the middle doesn't do anything

>>381697507
The only real points there are 1, 5, 7, and possibly 13 (if it's true). It's not that great of a controller but you're reaching with the rest of your complaints.

>>381706212
Yeah man I mean wow how cou- oh shit hang on, gotta change out my batteries again

The fact that the Switch Pro Controller has such an imprecise D-Pad really hurts.

I had wanted to get games like Sonic Mania on the Switch for the portability novelty, but now I think I'll just prefer PC so I can play with an actual D-Pad. Can't imagine trying to play a fighter on Switch.

>>381715963
At least the Pokken controller is compatible.

>>381715963
It would probably be good to make some noise to Nintendo's tech support about the d-pad and try to get a response about the issue, like what happened with the left joycon thing.

>>381716883
I feel like that only works if you manage to get a bunch of youtube celebs to notice the problem and raise awareness
Companies never seem to give a shit when its just a bunch of nobodies on their forum.

>>381711530
Thank you for reminding me I should pawn off this shit to FUCKING GAMESTOP while the credit is decent

>>381700107
what the fuck is that

>>381711716
>ugly
take that back!

>>381717479
Well, they acknowledged the joy-con and random HDMI signal issues and issued fixes. They say that they want people on their help lines to help them gather information if there's anything to report. Only a fraction of Switch owners have pro controllers, and there may not be enough people reporting about it to register to them as a significant issue.

>>381701742
What's this RAGE shit nigga?

It's pretty nice but I honestly preferred the Wii U stick placement, as well as the price being cheaper because no gyro shit and no fucking amiibo sensor, as if that was really needed.

>>381720150
Gyro was necessary. Like hell I'm playing Splatoon with those shitty joycons.

>>381715490
They're not complaints, they're facts about a shity controller

>>381697507
>8. dual lower joysticks, still

In what world is this a problem?

>>381722673
In the world that offers much more ergonomical options. It's literally worse in every way.

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Hello I'm actually the best controller ever made, just like how I go to the best console ever made.

>>381722931
But it's not though.

>>381723304
What is better about it?
>muh digital triggers
>muh I don't have wireless headset

>>381722673
Thumbs kissing!

>>381723870
I didn't say it was better, I'm just saying it's not a problem.

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>>381722673
The world where holding both thumbs in the same position like this is more comfortable and the majority of games you're going to play mainly use joystick + face buttons

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"Hello"

>>381705937
>How is three fingers on a dpad not superior to one finger on a dpad?
Try to do circles around WASD with 3 fingers.

Now try to do circles around a dpad with your thumb.

it's pretty fucking easy to understand why the dpad is better lmao.

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>You can be Player 2 bro

>>381724914
>The world where holding both thumbs in the same position like this is more comfortable
Wait what? Your "comfort" for your left thumb is affected by the position of the right and vice versa? You need to have 'em in the same position or you're uncomfortable? How the fuck does that even work?

>>381691392
It would be the best if it weren't for its trash D-pad.

>>381723074
This, the dualshock 2 will never be surpassed

>>381693280
>symmetrical sticks is a good thing
Fuck off, Sonyfag.

>>381723074
The tacked on as an afterthought position of the analog sticks sucks.

>>381694301
>keyboard and mouse have analogue triggers
I never knew.

>>381726045
>>381726140
Fuck off niggers Katamari Damacy doesn't make any sense with the sticks diagonally. Sorry you have fat fuck meat paws that can't hold a cultural product as simple and beautiful as the Dualshock

>>381691392
I actually just bought this today. It's definitely one of the more comfy controllers I've used and the buttons are awesome. I think the highlight of it are the trigger buttons. Absolutely flawless how good this is.

>>381726269
>defending the worst controller because of one game that would've been fine with a sensible controller anyway

>>381726378
0/10 bait

>>381726470
not bait but I genuinely enjoy it

eat shit

>>381726569
Then you're either retarded, haven't used the D-pad, or both.

>>381726045
Not a sonyfag, the Wii U pro controller is superior to the dualshit because it has a wider spacing between sticks and having both at the top make it super comfy for adventure games like Zelda or rpgs.

>>381699762
No, it would be pointless waste of money making the controller more expensive,

>>381726664
>le hate d-pad meme

g1 m8

Barely any games to actually play while using this controller so who fucking cares? The controller doesn't even come with the base system. Say it with me: "it's okay when Nintendo does it."

>>381726045
>t. shitter who never tried using a momentary claw grip to utilize the Dpad while still using the sticks

>Nintendo makes X
>Omg this is the best X thing ever

>>381691392
That's not the Dualshock 4.

>>381726674
I agree, but I prefer unsymmetrical sticks even more.

>>381726740
>actually thinking the Switch Pro Controller's D-pad isn't absolute garbage
Your beyond hope.

>>381727038
What point are you even trying to make here?

>>381727146
>Anon makes post
Omg this is the most retarded post ever

>no headphone jack

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

The joycons not having them too is a crime! If you are going to make a $90 controller, at least put one headphone jack in it... Only one on the left joycon would be fine

>>381727372
This. Nintendo fucked up everything audio with the Switch, especially with the voice chat fiasco.

Is the DS4 worth it for the touch pad in PC games?

>>381724403

It's not a problem in the same way that living in the Australian Bush isn't a problem. Sure there is practically no water, it's hot as fuck, no trees, and poisonous fauna is ubiquitous , but the aborigines have been living there for thousands for years so obviously it's just fine.

People who are ok with the dualshock are gasoline sniffing subhumans

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Wired XBOX 360 controller is the fucking best for PC gaming.

>>381699124
It was fantastic for first person games

>>381727797
Don't be silly, everyone knows the real gasoline sniffing subhumans are people who put a space between the end of a sentence and the following comma.
>ubiquitous , but

>>381727546
It's a bit finicky to use. If you're using it at your PC, you'll just end up taking your hand off the controller and using the mouse because that's so much simpler and more comfortable. I rebind the touchpad, if I use it at all.

But if you plan on using it for playing on the couch or something, I suppose it would be really handy. Just be sure to use DS4Windows.

>>381701894
run x360ce exe in the game's directory while your controller is on and connected.
Do this for each game.

>>381728329
also, once you are done setting up your controller, hit save and close x360ce exe it should not be running at the same time as the game. it uses dll injection to work.

>>381691547
>plastic internals
LOL people actually fell for this.

>>381694171
Is it really that good?
They're only 27 eurobugs

>>381725134
Both are trivially easy.
Are you retarded?

How often do you need to do fucking circles as a fucking input anyway?

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>>381691392
That's not the Xbox 360 controller.

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>>381700107

>>381691547
>concave
FUCK YOU

>>381728574
>Both are trivially easy.
It's significantly easier to do circles on a d-pad.
>How often do you need to do fucking circles as a fucking input anyway?
The point is that you can move between one input from another much faster on a dpad, and objectively so.

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Why is there no modern version of this except for those weird input mappers like the chronusmax

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>>381691547
>tfw bought one on ebay for $20

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>>381691509
4 hour battery life

>>381691392
Best controller ever made are the joy cons.

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>>381729082
There, 8 hours now.

>>381693971
remove stick
replace with d-pad

nobody buying a steam controller should be wanting a stick, they're bad input devices

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>mfw it's been like 3 times now they tried to allow cross play between pc and consoles
>made each time it's cancelled and put under the rug
>results for it was "team with any/more pic players win 98% of time, exceptions being directly related to if the team with lesser pc players having one reaaaallly good pc player"
>had to fucking gimp pic players to death or give console players juggernaut advantages just to break even

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>>381729246
There, infinite now.

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You literally cannot comprehend how good this controller is until you've tried it.

>>381729423
>year of lord 2017
>using cables at a non competitive level

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>>381691392

it looks like an xb1 rippoff made by sony

>>381729524
>MORE input lag, gibbmedat

>>381729524
yeah not gonna lie that killed my boner a little bit

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>>381691509
Dpad is awful here too. If they used the Vita's D-Pad it would have been god of gods tier.

>>381729515
I will never get this meme. The d-pad is shit.

>>381729624
Everybody copies the best

>>381693971
It's a nice controller but it's not perfect.

If it has better positioned bumpers, less hard to press buttons, and 4 grip paddles instead of 2, THEN it would be perf

>>381729703
You're probably not using the right version. There are multiple versions of the saturn controller that have slight differences, and one specific one is amazing as a fightpad.

>>381697507
2, 4 and 9 are literally the only legitimate complaints. The rest of these are complaints due to preferences for a different controller (1, 5, 6, 8, 10)or just plain something only autists care about (3, 7, 14)

11, 12, and 13 seem like blobhand/retardhand problems

>>381691392
Fucking nintenbro shut up and stop over rating this overpriced shit.

ds4 v2 is better

>>381727069
>having to do backflips for a simple input that comes completely natural on all other brands

No one is saying it's a terrible controller. It's just worse than all the other options out there. Congrats on mastering the claw grip tho.

>>381729515
Is there anyone who's compared this to the Pokken Pad? Which has a better Dpad

>>381730308
The saturn of course

>>381729703
You must have used one of the shitty chinese knockoff USB ones, huh?

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>>381730278
All I know is when I was playing BotW and I wanted to switch weapons on the fly, I would have to take my thumb off the stick and stop completely in my tracks to do so, which was really annoying, and I'm not an autist that wants to control the stick with my index finger when I claw grip.

This "asymmetrical is better" meme needs to fucking stop. The Dpad must always be on top of the stick no matter what.

>>381711907
Battery life is shit sadly

>>381730771
How would changing the position of the stick affect your ability to change weapons? You would still have to take your thumb off the stick to press the D-pad button anyway.

>>381728549
Yes and it also works on PC with wiinusoft but no analog triggers.

The Switch Pro Controller is actually a big disappointment. Not only is the d-pad terrible ( >>381691502 ), but the sticks are also shit. When you flick in a direction the stick bounces back the deadzone and inputs the other direction as well.

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out of my way fatshits

>>381731573
>the sticks are also shit. When you flick in a direction the stick bounces back the deadzone and inputs the other direction as well.
Wait, seriously? This is the first I've heard of this.

>>381731681
Here's a shit video I made where I recorded this. I can't play PPT at all with the thing, had to go back to joycons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqfcb2oPpMk

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>>381691502
>Sneaking up on an enemy in BoTW
>Realize I don't have a powerful enough weapon equipped to instakill on a sneak attack
>Press Right to switch weapons
>Link fucking whistles

>>381729291
I agree with this. I haven't found anything I'd want a stick for that the pad didn't do a great job replacing, but this thing is absolute trash for any game with 2D platforming and awkward with menus. The "dpad" is no dpad.

>>381731573
>When you flick in a direction the stick bounces back the deadzone and inputs the other direction as well.
This is honestly the biggest crime to this controller. I can forgive the shitty D-Pad since I can just play platformers with the sticks but the fucking deadzone is just way too small for this shit.

>>381731754
That's kind of hilarious, actually. Along with the D-pad, did they just not test this?

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>>381732182

>>381731465
It's easier to claw grip touch the Dpad with my index finger when the Dpad is above the stick.

Thumb always on the left stick and bring out my index finger to use the Dpad whenever. Can't do that if the Dpad is below the stick because I'm not gonna stretch my index over my thumb like a freak.

Why can't people understand this.

>>381691547
I would buy it if the pricing wasn't so ridiculous

>>381732364
That's the most retarded thing I've heard all day

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>>381733794
the only retarded one is you my friend

what about this doesn't make sense

>>381734565
Not every game utilizes the d-pad, though.

>>381734565
Dude. Just put your right thumb on the d-pad, your right index finger on the stick and the rest of your fingers on the face buttons.

>>381734565
I think whenever I had to press the dpad while using the stick on the 360 controller, I would swap my index finger onto the stick and use my thumb to press the dpad.

>>381727148
>worst controller this gen is best!
Ponys

>>381727038
>That time you were so mad you went online to post three completely different and irrelevant sentences.
Whew lad

>>381728713
You can put convex sticks on it if you want.

>>381691547
I heard of that thing breaking constantly.
For the price they're asking for, the moving parts should all be metal

>>381729853
>thread is about controller preferences
>completely discredit legit complaints
Being this deep in sony's pocket

>>381694152
Have you ever actually played something like Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto, or Just Cause on a mouse and keyboard? It's like you're controlling a sack of potatoes with tons of inputs that require you to hold other inputs. It feels like shit. The same applies to platformers and especially 2D platformers, it's absolutely terrible.

You want another example, the newer Deus Ex games, they're fine in first person and then you go into third and now you're controlling a clunky sack of bricks which doesn't happen when you're on a controller since you feel like you're at the same speed the entire time.

Yeah, M+K is great for sims, FPS, RTS, flying sims, and possibly fighting games, but I'm not touching any other genre on it with a ten foot pole unless it's exclusive, and even then I'll opt for controller. You don't know how shit Witcher 1 feels to control without a controller, especially after you've played 2 and 3 with one.

>>381734565
What. The. Fuck.
You're right, they should have made 99% of game time worse so 1% of the time you could successfully play like an autistic 3rd world sub human garbage eating piece of filth.

>>381691547
I have read this thing has serious quality assurance issues and that it's not worth the price tag whatsoever. Shame, I wanted one for my PC but opted for a 20 dollar Bone controller.

>>381734565
Any game that requires this grip style is a bad game.

>>381691392
Hello!

>>381706263
This. Why didn't they put a headphone jack on the controller?

>>381727360
>N-NO U
Fuck off nintendildo

>>381694490
its funny though that even with a worse battery life than the wii u pro controller the controller still lasts at least 5 times longer than an xbox or ps4 controller.
because why have good battery when you can have a useless lightbar

>>381729423
What is this?

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>>381700021
i fucking love the duke
and i grew up with mostly nintenbro consoles-.

>>381691392

Hello baby :3
I love using you.
I love it when you ticlke my hands with your subtle HD rumble.

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>>381693971
hmm where have I seen this shilling before? Oh wait, here https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/I%20hate%20Valve%2C%20but/
>the shilling is real

>>381691547
don't buy that POS, it has known issues with the bumpers breaking, get a xbox one s controller instead

>>381693971
a huge fucking d pad and some shit looking circle looking thing and no right analog stick, why do people fall for such things as this?

>>381706406
>3rd party software
it connects via bluetooth

>>381691502
Did I get lucky with my dpad? I haven't had a single issue with it.

>>381734565
There's a reason for the right analog stick. The only game where this is required is monster hunter 1 because for some reason they didn't know there was a right analog stick and you could only use the dpad for the camera.

>>381744457
Why do people make comments on things they have no knowledge of?

>connect this to PC and test it by playing SFV
>analog stick doesn't input diagonals

Anyone else have this problem?

>>381697556
Gamertag xbro?

>>381693971
those triggers and grip buttons alone make me never want to use anything else

>>381693971
The list of games that natively support it is embarrassingly low and configuring it to work with other games is an exercise in frustration.

Great controller, though. Just needs more time.

>>381727945
The 360 controller is all around the best controller ever made. There is literally nothing that comes close.

>>381691392
i honestly think i love this controller.
it's only lacking analog triggers.

>>381746550
>shit d-pad
Yeah, no. It's good, and better than any piece of Sony garbage, but it's not the best.

>Conjoined D-pad
Utter trash.

>>381746550
Wii u pro maybe

>>381723074
>literally the Ps1 controller in every single way

>>381691392
pretty much yeah

Where's the standards institute here.

Imagine buying a separate TV or speakers for each console.

I literally can't afford to get back into gaming because of all the extra costs.