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PlayStation is dead

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How can they ever recover?
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>>381670501
They can't
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>>381670417
Well my dad works at playstation and says your dads a fag
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>>381670417
>xbox one x can run a source engine game in a really big resolution

wow nobody gives a fuck
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>>381670417
Doesn't change the fact that you still have to aim with a fucking joystick.
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>>381670417
What hell is 6K? I thought the next step was 8K?
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30fps tho

>for reference bloodborne us 45fps
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>>381670417
>EXCLUSIVE
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>>381670945
5760 horizontal resolution most likely
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Too bad it won't save my favorite multiplayer shooter from being a dying game.
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WOW! NOW I CAN TOTALLY PLAY THIS GAME ON MY 6K TV AND NOT FEEL AS IF I WASTED MONEY ON IT!
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>>381670417
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>>381671386
Xbix has always been playing catch up. They run ahead sometimes but PS always runs ahead next gen.
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>>381671013
no, it's not and you know it
even saying 30 is generous for BB
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>>381670417
>all that hardware power
>it's only being used for graphics
>still no games
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>>381672149
no, it's not and you know it
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>>381670417
Fails to mention that the game uses a dynamic resolution scaler, if the action becomes too intense the resolution will drop to keep the framerate.
So that means that it *may* run at 6K in some very specific scenes where nothing is happening but most of the time it will drop to a much lower resolution.
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>>381670417
Oh boy, I can't wait to not give a shit unless it offers a proper downsampling so that I will actually see a nicer image on my 720p tv than had it been native res.
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>>381670417
>m-muh 300K
call me when that piece of shit has a worthwhile game lmaoING IRL
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>>381672262
i love the game to death and spent around 300 hours on it, how can you even argue with the fact that it's 30 fps? It's not even something that can be argued, it's a fact
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This also the same person who said Titanfall can't run on the Switch
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who the fuck owns a 6k TV
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>>381672431
no, it's not and you know it
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>FORZA 2018 TO RUN AT 20K RESOLUTION
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4K TVs aren't even a standard as most households have 1080p TVs, and it won't be for at least 5 or so years from now, so why give a shit about 6K? I want this race for numbers to fucking die already, it's embarrassing.
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>>381672472
They don't have to. Higher native rendering will give a nicer picture on lower res screens as well if the image is scaled down with proper bicubic sampling.
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>>381672474
fuck you
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>MADDEN 2145 TO RUN AT A RESOLUTION ONLY MICROSOFT BRAND AUG-EYES CAN SEE
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>>381670417
>console
>working 60fps let alone 30fps in 6k
Yeeees
sure
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okay sure but why

isn't the whole point of 4k that you don't need AA
just seems like a waste of potential framerate really
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>>381672547
6K will still be visible as a better picture than 1080p on 1080p televisions.
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You forgot an important detail OP

>6K everything on low-medium with 15-30fps
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>>381672618
fuck you
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>>381672713
And most people won't even be able to tell the difference. It's not a 30 vs 60fps argument, here.
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>>381672716
>low-medium setting
>on a console

Is this actually a thing nowadays?
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>>381672876
It's been a thing since the 6th gen.
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>>381670417
Neat. Glad to see Xbox finally recovering from Don Mattrick's trainwreck and focusing on delivering quality hardware again.
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>>381672876
>he doesnt know about the battlefield 240p resolution drops
heh
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>>381672793
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>>381670417
Cool, can anyone let me borrow their 6k tv? Im sure there are plenty around.
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>>381672974
that was just a bug that got fixed shortly though
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>>381672795
They absolutely will be able to tell the difference just as well as they would between 30 and 60fps.

Bicubic downscaling from a higher internal rendering resolution not only makes sure more details are visible for clearer textures and better draw distance, it also gets rid of jaggies without phoney postprocessing AA.
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>let's bump up the resolution even more instead of using the power for something else
why
why
why
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>>381672964
>>381672974

Dear lord.
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>>381672353
This. The XB1 version CAN run at 1080p, but to keep 60fps it usually hovers around 720p. Sorry xfriends, not today.
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>>381673170
It will unironically improve overall picture quality, even for people with non-UHD displays.
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>>381672259
>still no games
>EXCLUSIVE
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>>381672389
They already said the one X supports down sampling on all games that run above 1080 if you dont have a 4k tv.

Funny how a win10 box can do computer things a little easier than the others.
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>>381673368
Well that's nice at least.
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>>381670932
Console titanfall 2 Is funner desu
Going fast with a grenadier lets you meme all over slow with shitscan.
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>>381672431
Xbox tf2 is 30fps?
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>>381670417
This stupid competition with resolutions is getting more stupid as time goes.
Fucking Spiderman was announced to go at 4k but was forced into 30fps because of it, do people really care that much about resolution?
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>>381673497
Lol saying a FPS is better on a console than PC. Good one.
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>>381670417
>oh yea lets "render" a "game" at 6k that no one even has
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>>381671013
You lie convincingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6jxhgMteB4
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>>381671013
what is it with retards on this board that claim games run at framerates that are not multiples of 30?

it's 30 or 60 you fucking niggers
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>>381673646
Funner = / = Better
How can nintenbros be this dumb?
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>>381673598
Yes

I can stand 30fps in games if its smooth. Shit image quality is not okay and 1080p was never good without tons of AA.
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>>381673598
>>381673658

see
>>381673162

It's not a complete waste, and normies REALLY don't care about going about 30fps most of the time.
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So the game runs at a better resolution than copies sold. Good for them.
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>>381673740
As if you will notice a big difference between 4k and 6k. I prefer my game to go as smooth as posible even if it has to go at 720fps.
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>>381673693
It would be a hassle. But it's not impossible, and some have done it.
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>>381673740
Nothing about 30 fps is smooth. It also objectively means the devs cared more about visuals than gameplay.
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>>381673497
>Going fast with a grenadier lets you meme all over slow with shitscan.
You can do the same thing on PC, though. Just faster.
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>>381674124

Oh great, one of these guys.
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Too bad Titanfall 2 on Xbox doesn't even have 6k players
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>>381670417
Does that mean the 4K tv I don't even own is already outdated?
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>>381673308
Yes, I know what supersampling is and how it works. It's nice. I also know how higher res textures and better lighting works and I'd take those over marketing meme resolution bumps any day.
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>>381673931
You will between 4k and 1080 which is what I was saying. The 6k clickbait is more to show that it has tons of power to spare so newer games can look way better than current stuff like horizon.

Also you can have perfectly smooth fps at 30. So that doesnt matter to average players. I prefer more shadowing and fidelity at the cost of FPS in some game but things that are response based I always tweak settings for 60fps.

The real question is will the xbone finally have enough features to not have screen tearing?
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>>381673961
>and some have done it
no, they just leave the framerate unlocked, and it literally never happens anymore
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>more power instantly kills the competition

when will this meme end?
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>>381674349
>hurr
Its not super sampling for one you idiot that would cost a shit load of performance and for 2 look at DaS1 in 4k. The texture work is immaculate on many pieces of gear, moreso than das3 in certain aspects.

>muh 4k doesnt do anything
This meme needs to die already, actual pcbros have been downsampling from 4k or any fucking k for ages.
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>>381673170
This.
Fuck higher resolution, I want better gameplay mechanics and technology in my games instead.
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ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING RESOLUTION WARS

I DONT GIVE A SHIT IF YOU CAN RENDER AT 4K OR 6K OR 30K WHEN THE FRAMERATE ISNT 60FPS
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>>381674557
Yeah I meant downsampling instead of supersampling, woops. Who the fuck said 4k doesn't do anything? It does, now leave it be. Focus on getting there without meme upscaling first. Nobody needs 6k memes right now.
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>muh flip flops
>muh 500k!
if it doesn't have 60fps it don't mean shit.
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>2018 - 1
>still not 8K

step it up senpai
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>>381674736
>nobody needs 6k
Except it will instantly improve the IQ for 80inch 4k tvs and its massivly important if the one x is going to do VR at all. Thats NOT THE POINT though.

The point is that it can runs games that killed the current gen with tons of power to spare, so much so that they achieved 6k.
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>>381674965
>with tons of power to spare
[citation needed]
I bet the thing runs at 20fps with drops for that cinematic experience.
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>>381674965
Oh I see you're an xbot. Say hi to Bill from me.
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>>381675097
>im retarded
It runs the game at 4k with room to spare because Titanfall 2 is an older multiplat titles.
Do I have to fucking spell it out?

>>381675256
>hurr memes because this guy is using big words
PSVR is awful, the Pro is useless and the original xbox one was an unmitigated disaster. The one x has no games but at least it can run the games that are out and look similar to a PC presentation.

The thing is though, its probably checkerboard rendering
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>>381675913
No need to greentext anon, we know you're retaarded.
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I forgot Titanfall 2 existed.
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>>381670417
What, at five frames per second?
6k is an awkward, non standard resolution that nobody uses anyway, it's like bragging that you use beta instead of vhs.
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>>381672713
>I have literally no fucking idea what I'm talking about
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>>381677390
Really though. I do.
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>>381672465
it can't, though
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>higher resolutions mean more processing is required
>more processing means more waste heat
>more waste heat means stronger fans
>stronger fans AND more processing means more electricity is required
>more electricity required means my electricity bill will be higher
FUCK 6k. Give me a 1080p option, and I will be happy.
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>>381676837
Who could blame you.
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>>381678226
In a rather broad sense, it genuinely can't, as there is no build of Source for Switch's chipset that I know of.

But there's no reason it shouldn't be possible.
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>>381674557
Rendering at 4K on a 1080p display is literally 4x supersampling AA.
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>>381670417
Who except xbox fags really gives a shit about resolution pass 1080p?
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>>381670417
oh god we really have gone back in time, everyone's measuring their dick on numbers, a decent Sonic game is coming out and Atari's making another goddamn console.

WHAT THE SHIT.
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>>381678576
Switch has 32 gigs of internal storage, it wouldn't fit. Compression only gets you so far.
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>>381673727
>Funner = / = Better
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I'd rather it be native 720p with more power being used for little additional visual details and better performance. It's like playing a PC game at 720p at high settings vs 6K at low settings. The former looks better in about every way
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>>381670417
>Checkerboard 4K 30fps

kek
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>>381680142
>Titanfall 2
>30 fps
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>>381673727
What?
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>>381673727

>nintendohaters assimilate the worl fun with "Nintendo"
>in their heads, saying that is not positive merchandising for Nintendo

How can you guys be this dense?

Also, a game have to be fun. If it is not fun, why bother?
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>>381679580
What is external storage? Consoles since the 360 have allowed installing large games onto USB drives
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>>381680096
I'd rather the game looked like a PS2 emulation and ran at 120 fps

Actually, I'd rather the entire game untextured and all the visual fidelity was the lighting and color-scheme
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>still pushing the 4k and 6k memes

they are both pointless formats
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>>381680498
A game can be not-fun but still be engaging; I really like The Vanishing of Ethan Carter

Conversely, a game can be fun and I'll still not like it; I stopped playing Distance, DeadCore, Infinifactory and tons of other indies.

If a game is fun though it's really likely I'll pick it up again, even if I wasn't that invested to begin with. It's highly unlikely I'll play TVoEC or Stanley Parable again.
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>>381670417
15fps.
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>>381680681
That's about what it will look like wasting all the system resources rendering native 6k
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>>381674834
This. You could raytrace every frame at any arbitrary resolution you choose but it doesn't make the game playable or good.
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>>381674834
>>381682281
But Titanfall 2 is 60 fps.
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Why is there such a push for the 4k meme ? It seems they're just trying to sell a new generation of expensive monitors and don't really give a fuck about their consoles anymore.
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>>381680683
It's weird to me how much it's being pushed. It's too early. It's like if Sony tried to push 1080p with the original PlayStation
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>>381682438
Remember the 3D TV fad? Same thing here.
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>>381682482
This
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>>381682404
It may or may not be-- not really the point being made. The point being made is that claiming it is rendered at [arbitrary number of pixels] does not make the game inherently better.
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Everyone on /v/ that jacks off to how important 60fps doesnt even play multiplayer games, where its most needed

I know this because its always sonybros and we all know their online is shit
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>>381670417
According to my ass at 6k the game runs like ass.
Screencap this so when it'll be clear that I'm right you will have to worship my ass . The 2B's reign is already over.
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>>381670417
This is getting ridicolous, what's next? X can run some game 9001k?
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>>381682694
The most annoying part of this is they've yet to do 1080p particularly well. Do well with the technology almost everybody has and by the time you are doing well with it the adoption rate of newer technology will be sufficient to justify trying at a higher level of fidelity.
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>>381682798
It's important everywhere because shit FPS makes most genres significantly less enjoyable. There's no reason to play a game if it's not as enjoyable as some other title you could be playing instead.
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>>381670417
xbox can't even do 4k competently
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>>381682438
>don't really give a fuck about their consoles anymore.
I'd say that's clear.
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>>381670417
Will it boost Titan Fall 2 sales? It didn't sell well from what i hear, less than when it was an exclusive.
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>>381683073
Forza is 4k native
Crackdown is 4k native
Shadow of the mordor is 4k native
Project cars 2 is 4k native
That platformers games are 4k native
ESO is 4k native
Halo 5 sound in 4k native
Gears of wars 4k native
Ori 4K Native
Super Lucky thing 4K native
Maybe you are speaking of the PS4 pro? Yeah you're right.
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>>381682438
to sell 4k tvs
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a shti game in 6k is still a shit game

Now if it was Titanfall 1...
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>>381682721
Epic damage control PCfart
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>>381683401
>Titanfall 2
>Shit
Nice shit taste
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Jesus, Microsoft is really a pro at starting shitty harmful trends.
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>>381683125
Because the first game was a good exclusive, the second is a shit multiplat

I'd go as far as saying the first game was one of the best multiplayer games in a long time, while the second is worse than post-BO CoD
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>>381670417
Meanwhile I'm hear on PC playing 8 instances of Crysis at 128K. Step it up Xcucks
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>>381680509
The switch isnt physically powerful enough
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>>381683591
>I've only played Titanfall 1: The Post
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>>381683510
Titanfall had the potential to be amazing, instead it's CoD with 2 sizes of dude and parkour. I think new CoDs have parkour too, so it's mostly CoD with 2 sizes of dude.
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>>381683557
>Sony releases PSPro for """""""4k""""""""
>Microsoft does the same
>WOW MICROSOFT RUINING EVERYTHING!!
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>>381683694
Sure it is. It would just take actual effort by the devs to selectively downscale certain things. If they could get Crysis to run on 360, this could be done too
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>>381683826
ok
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>>381670417
>MUH PIXELS
Undoubtedly THE most important thing to consider when judging the quality of a videogame. The Order 1886 is literally hundreds of times better than any PS1 game due to having hundreds of times more pixels, you can't argue with this logic, it's scientific fact.
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>>381684182
I'm glad you agree anon.
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YOU DAMNED FOOLS. WE'VE GONE TOO FAR

>2K
>4K
>6K
>12K
>24K
>401K
>Y2K

DON'T YOU SEE?! SOON EVERYTHING WILL BECOME MORE DETAILED THAN US. WE'LL BECOME DATED AND UGLY, WHILE VIDEO GAMES TAKE OVER. THEY'LL BE PLAYING US. THE XBOX AND PLAYSTATION CONTROLLING OUR EVERYDAY LIVES BECAYSE IT'S MORE DETAILED AND ADVANCED THAN HUMANITY.

SOON WE'LL BE NOTHING MORE THAN THE ESCAPE FROM REALITY.

WE WILL BECOME THE VIDEO GAMES.
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>>381670417

>Renders at

not

>Plays games at

Absolutely pointless clickbait article. All this is saying is that the hardware can output at that resolution. If it can't actually do it fast enough, whats the point? You'd be better off with a powerpoint presentation of screenshots.

The only thing that this means is that bullshots are going to be crisper.
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>>381683917
>I'm an idiot, please explain every detail.
The problem isn't the possibility of playing at 4k, or having better performance by paying more buckets, you tard. The problem is how fucking hard microsoft is trying to push it, from just being a neat extra for people with enough money to wastte it's becoming the main flagship of microsoft marketing, and as other people have pointed out it feels like we are back to the sterile "everyone's measuring their dick on numbers" war.
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>>381683269
>Forza is 4k native
Looks like a 360 game
>Crackdown is 4k native
Looks like a really shit 360 game and is 30fps
>Shadow of the mordor is 4k native
30fps
>Project cars 2 is 4k native
Nope.
>That platformers games are 4k native
LOL indies
>ESO is 4k native
LOL mmo
>Halo 5 sound in 4k native
Nope.
>Gears of wars 4k native
30fps.
>Ori 4K Native
Indie game.
>Super Lucky thing 4K native
LOL you don't even know the name, and it looks shit.

Fuck off, Nobody.
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>>381679580
Even the Wii U allowed you to buy and download games that were bigger than the internal drive allowed. Step up senpai.

And in any case, that wouldn't prevent a physical release form existing.

>>381683694
Let's have some data on that, because I don't believe it.
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>>381683754
I put 25 hours into the multiplayer of Titanfall 2, plus some 10 hours in the beta

Also, Zampella himself said they were going more CoD with TF2
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>>381684932
>xbox can't even do 4k competently
>some anons shows him the truth
>GOES IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL B-but it's bad!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T85Fshj2eiY
Get the fuck out
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>>381684932
>Looks like a 360 game
Yeah GT sport looks like a Xbox 360 games, that's not the case with Forza 7.
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>>381684932
Has anyone else been this visibly butthurt lately?
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>>381670417
>90% of the 8th gen console market will FOREVER be the cheaper Xbone/PS4 models
>XBONEXXXxXXX VS PS4PRO wars

Who cares? This is irrelevant
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>>381673693
Because games frequently are supposed to be 30 but struggle to maintain even 20

Therefore it is logical ro assume a game that is supposed to be 60 struggled to maintain even 50
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>>381684789
>WHY IS MCIROSFT MAKING FUN OF US!! ITS NOT FAIR!
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>>381686582
>Competently
>30fps
>Medium textures

But here's another Forza that looks the same as the piece of shit that came out four years ago.

May as well link the video to Lucky's Tale.
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>>381670417
>PlayStation is dead
Has Microsoft been given the ability to cancel PlayStation games too?
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>>381684932
>Forza looks like a 360 game

Show me the 360 game that looks better than pic related
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Fuck 4K give us 120+ fps
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>>381687282
>l-l-l-l-looks the same !!!
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>>381682438
Getting ready for next gen (which will come between 2020 and 2022)

-More 4K TV adoption from the start by that point
-Upscaling techniques will be perfected by then with all the current experimentation going on right now
-HDR will finally be standarized by then and all devs will know how to do it well, rather than the current mish-mash of good and shitty HDR implementations (in games) and TVs
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>>381687490
>Same jaggies

Even when you cherry picked you fucked up hahaha
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>>381687662
Man you're blind as fuck, Forza uses photogrammetry now and has 4k textures. Even if you compare Forza Apex to Forza 6 the difference is yuge and now it's even bigger.
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Nah. Xbox will run supported multiplats even better and thats it. Its exclusives library is a joke.
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>>381687823
>4K textures

Oh dear, Pajeet's trying to sell the marketing meme again

>Dufference is yuge

You're better off plugging that "power of the cloud" shit with Crackdown 3's multiplayer. It might make it look better than the singleplayer shitshow.
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>>381688335
Le resolution is a meme mayday.

Higher res is the future m8
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>Renders
Oh boy, here we go.
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>>381688335
My question is, what the fuck happened to all the destruction they were shilling with this game a few years ago?
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>>381690410
All that's restricted to 10 minute long 5x5 multiplayer matches.
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>>381690907
Are you shitting me?
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>>381691089
Nope. Maybe if MS never 180'd four years ago the cloud destruction would still be in the single player but it's a non-starter now.
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Lol at people actually being upset about this
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>>381670417
>6k

y tho
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>>381684357
I wanna be the cutest video gaem
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>>381692208
we're laughing at you and your spin, retard
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>>381693006
Yikes
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>>381684789
Its actually a pretty smart move when you have nothing else to push.
Sony did it with 3d tv's when they had no big games, and at the end of the year last year after Horizon got delayed.

When you have nothing impressive you might as well push yourself as the best place to play multiplats.
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>>381670417
Nah, my wife's son renders that shit better.
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>>381687490
The weather effects are nice but holy shit those car models are awful. Also look at the in car view the dash is horrendous and the sound is bland.
Plus these fuckers biggest push is esports.
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>>381670417
>6K =/= Checkerboard 6K
Also
>30 FPS
>Buy our console goyim
I just hope that when consoles die and everybody switches to PCs, this kind of shit stops.
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>>381694154
So never ever?
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>>381670417
Guys, my ps4pro isn't working after reading this thread. Should i buy a xbox x?
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>>381694312
>Consoles will never die
They're already going into a 2 year life cycle.
A PC for $800 can last about 6 if you really push it.
>>
>>381694348
Buy a PC and good videocard and print some xbox logo, install some shitty anal services and buy games from microgoyim store. I swear you get same experience in 6k, 20k, really good shit
>>
>>381670932
>I can't respect that people have preferences so I'll just be mad forever.
FTFY
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>>381670417
Who needs this shit anyway?
>game is shitty
>"BUT HIS HAS FUCKING GREAT GRAPHIC N SHEEIT!!"
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>>381670417
I play this on PC with a GTX 1080 at a locked 4K60. By the way, this game is absolutely beautiful. I don't know if XOX compares to my GPU, but I'm sure in some of the calmest scenes it will actually hit 6K. There are some moments that my rig will actually drop to 58 or something, such as the dropship sequences where you see the whole map at once. So I wouldn't expect the 6K experience to be consistient. But you should, at least, get a solid 1080p and above all the time with this game. I think it's wonderful that console graphics now compare better with PC. It means more games will be made with THIS level of power as the common denominator, and the PC versions should benefit as well. Although if you had any sense you'd play Titanfall on mouse and keyboard.

>>381673497
It's only more fun for you because you don't have the skill to meme on PC players. That's fine, but you shouldn't recommend that train of thought to others.
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>>381687380
pffffhahahahaha
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>>381684932
pc + wii u owner and i'm laughing at you
don't damage control so hard
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>>381683484
>A comment from a literally who and a game already nobody cares about.
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>>381673497
yeah console overwatch is more fun as a torbjorn main

don't get your point
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>>381695343
>wii u owner

WHEW
>>
>>381683484
why doesn't he just make movies
>>
>>381695579
wii u is hands down the best "we have people over" console
sorry you don't have friends
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>>381670417
You Xboners are hilarious.
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>ctrl+f fps
>30 fps
>30 fps
>30 fps
yeah right, try 5
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>>381674648
But it is 60 fps my dude
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>>381695987
>Titan fall 2
60 fps
>>
Should I apologize to this guy for buying Titanfall on outdated 5 years old PC.

Dude I am so sorry for insulting you by buying your game. I am really sorry dude. But dont worry I will make sure to buy XBOX in order to play this awesome indie prison break game that cant run on inferior hardware.
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>>381670417
Lmao sure x-friend I'll believe it when I see it.
Also great premise for a quality console war shitposting thread.
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>>381670417

>WITH XBONEX YOU CAN PLAY A GAME WITH NO PLAYERS AT 1587K


WOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>381673497
>Funner
>>
>>381671013
Titanfall 2 is a 60fps game. why would they compromise that for 4K/6K?
>>
why are PC fags saying it's 30fps?

TF2 is 60fps.

6K 60fps on XBoneX

1440p 60fps on PS4 Pro
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>>381698095

>pcfags

You mean sonybros posing as pc users because the xb1x shits on their ps4 pro and sony in general?
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