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Sony hopes Spider-Man will push PS4 to 100M units

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Well /v/ can the web head do it? Given the current popularity of the MCU, everyone and their father will want to play this game.

http://gamingbolt.com/can-spiderman-really-push-ps4-sales-past-100-million
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What other Marvel heroes do you want to see games from?
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>>381665959
>spiderman selling 40m
lol
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>>381665959
>“Well, like I tell my sales guys, the first 60 million is the easy 60 million. To get to [100 million], it’s about how do we grow the pie?”
>“But for us in the US I think the biggest chance we have to broaden that pie is with a game like Spider-man,”
Do you even read the clickbait you post?
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>>381665959
>press x to hero
>selling 40 million consoles
are sonyfags really this delusional?
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>>381665959

Has ANY game sold more than 40mil on PS4?
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>>381665959
So now we know why Sony are in serious debt. they know fuck all about running a business.
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>>381665959
Why are Sonyfags hyping up this game so much?
It's literally just a reskinned Bamham game but with Spiderman instead and it somehow still manages to look even worse.
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>>381665959
Spiderman won't make it sell over 100 million but remember that Sony has great third party support such as KH3, VII remake, Code Vein, Dragon Ball, Ace Combat, MH World, etc and games such as God of War, Shadow of the Colossus remake, etc.

100+ million PS4 consoles sold is a given.
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>>381666067
Fuck Marvel.
I want a Green Lantern game where you can choose which fraction you're on and go to space war with the other lantern corps.
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>hyping up a Spiderman game only because it's exclusive

We've hit rock bottom
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I think PS4 is the worst console right now, but I gotta admit Sony really nailed the appealing to normalfags shit this gen. Their fans being almost walking advertisements also didn't hurt. Credit where credit is due.
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>>381667060
>I think PS4 is the worst console right now

I guess you mispelled Xbone but that's ok.
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>>381665959
I hate Spider-Man, but shit looks fun as fuck. I'll buy it.
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>>381666984
>literally who: the games
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>>381666067
The Punisher.
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Doesn't the chinks fucking love spiderman for no fucking reason?
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>>381667170
>literally who: the games

No idea if you're just a plain idiot or being sarcastic
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>>381667169
>hating based Spidey
>liking this garbage tier "game"

I shiggy diggy do
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>>381667170
This is what you wanted, isn't it?
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>>381667307
Cry about it.
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>>381666558
Obviously, yes
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>>381665959
>sonyfags not understanding market saturation

The wii was lucky because smart phones were just getting their legs.
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PS4 is going to sell over 100 million no matter what happens. It's been an inevitability ever since M$ and the No Games One decided that repeatedly punching themselves in the dick was a viable business strategy.
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>>381667681
>>381666897
>>381666179
>Not realizing they aren't tackling America so much as China.
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>>381667681
The PS3, with all the horrendous issues it had with it's launch and lifespan still managed to do 80M in 7 years, why can't the PS4 manage to hit 100M considering it hit 60M in under 4 years?
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>>381666984
Fifa 18 will sell more than all of those combined.

Face it Sonybros. Fifa and cod will push your garbage system to 100m units alone.

If GTA gets another version then it will get to 120 million. The PS4 is still a piece of fucking shit. And I say this while I'm literally playing one as I type this
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>>381667924
Why so butthurt bro?

>PS4 is a piece of shit and yet i'm playing one right now xDDD
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>>381665959
Then they should have copied Arkham Asylum in a better way.

I hope Sony fully fails, just like they have already failed with almost all of their Spiderman movies.
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>>381666067
GIVE ME IRON MAN
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>>381665959

Sales are still going up for the PS4, as the price goes down. The slim model is already $249. PS4 now must be near 65-70m, it'll naturally be 100m in two and a half years, if it keeps momentum. Spider-Man will only be released late 2018 / early 2019, by that time the number of consoles should be around 85-90m worldwide.

The console literally is the PS2-2.
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>>381667840
Then why isn't it called Spidel man?
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>>381668249
What the fuck is wrong with normies
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>>381666984
>KH3
>Code Vein
>Dragon Ball
>Ace Combat
>MH World
All of these will look and run better on the Xbone X or PC. There's no reason for someone to buy a PS4 for these unless they want to play the inferior versions.
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>>381666984
I have a feeling KH3 and VII won't be released for ps4
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>>381668365
They keep falling for marketing that is based on nothing but hype time and time again and Sony mastered that craft.
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>>381668407
Those will sell the best on PS4

Xbots don't care for weeab games, PC is full of fags who only play DOTA 2 and that garbage.
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>>381668249
how did ps3 sell more than 360 when it had no games in the first year, hell the first 3 years
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>>381667884
The PS3 was a cheap bluray player, dont underextimate how many sales that earned it and the PS2 for dvds. Thats not a draw anymore so its just a netflix machine that everyones TV/roku can already do when its not gaming.

I have a ps3, but the ps4 is an awful upgrade for a media center. Somehow xbox became the best console for that for a number of reasons.
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>>381668561
how did ps4 sell more than Xbone when it had no games in the first year, hell the first 3 years
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>>381666067
Cable, it would be something like a modern day Psi-Ops with a little more action.
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>>381668641
>The PS3 was a cheap bluray player,

No, it wasn't
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>>381668249
Does that count Pro sales?

Because thats retarded if it does.
>hey all these people upgraded their hardware it totally counts as more people!
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>>381668769
Not him but yes it was. When it came out a bluray player by itself was almost the same price.
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>>381668769
>hurr im an idiot
Go back to 2006 and try again retard.
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>>381668501
All other companies literally do the same anon. The PS4 just has the most games and the most appeal.
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>>381668872
They were still expensive, and people still watched movies on DVD's, hell, lots of people are still watching DVD's.
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>A recent remark by PlayStation America boss Shawn Layden pointed to Spider-Man as Sony’s biggest potential hit to broaden the appeal of the PS4 to wider audiences and demographics

Go damn they want my grandma to get a ps4 the madmen!
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>>381668849
Any console sold adds to the total. Since when has this never been the case?
The 3DS has 8 different models and they all count for the same thing. The PS4 is going to pass it with less iterations and less years on the market soon.
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>>381668967
Yes but relatively. If you were in the market for a bluray player when the ps3 was launched there was literally no reason to buy one over a PS3.
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>>381669135
I don't think so, even the PS3 struggled a lot to sell at lauch. People weren't really that interested in Blu-Ray.
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>>381665959
>PS4 to 100M units
lol
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>>381669210
>I don't think so
I don't care what you think you teenage faggot, the rest of us were there and remember it.
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>>381669376
Ok....
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>>381668849

Should we not count the X360s that were sold to people who bought new ones after their consoles RRoD'd or the multiple 3DS revisions, including the New 3DS which was a literal hardware revision that added new buttons and more power to be sold to old 3DS owners too?
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>>381669101
The wii didnt.
I'm just saying they need to stop acting retarded when they sell "100m units" and only get 2 mill in game sales.

For fucks sake the NES had 60 million and that was before gaming was even popular like it is today where every single person has to be playing whether its on a phone, tv screen or monitor.

>>381669553
Absolutely, pretending an upgrade is another user is a bad marketing tactic since servers going down on launch to get free publicity. Its bad because it leads to situation above where huge devs dont make enough money because their projections are so fucking skewed.
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>>381669780
>pretending an upgrade is another user is a bad marketing tactic and as bad as the shitters who use servers going down on launch to get free publicity

Damn I cant type, missed an entire part of my sentence.
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>>381666897
>sony
>in debt
When?
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>>381668561

The biggest misconception people have is that the X360 sold more than PS3. That was only true for the first year. Once Playstation got their PS digital store, trophies, weeb games, PS+ and started marketing the "instant games collection", the tide started to shift. MGS4 announcement and exclusives like Uncharted 2, God of War 3 and inFamous brought a lot of people on board.
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>>381666750
i think the highest selling exclusive was uncharted and that didnt even reach 9 million
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>>381669885
>he doesnt know sony is more than just playstation
Theres a reason you dont see sony phones or TVs anymore.
The camera and finance divisions are doing alright though compared. Finance especially.
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>>381669376

I worked a circuit city back then and yea people bought it for the bluray. PS3 was the casual machine. Why is that hard for niggers to believe?
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>>381665959
I want them to start a MCU for video games.
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You can pinpoint the retards that visit this board by checking the posters that, after reading that news article, think Sony expects Spider-Man to sell 40m.

It shows a severe lack of reading comprehension.
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>>381669908
What about multiplat?
Does cod sell on ps4?
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>>381669891

It just sold more in in the US. It also took more than a year to catch up. Xbox live was far better than psn for a few years there desu.
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>>381670343

I completely agree, I'm just saying people here sometimes think the USA scenario accuratelly reflects what happened in other parts of the world. Europe has been Playstation territory for more than a decade, Xbox 360 had no presence in Japan even though the PS3 wasn't selling very well there, Latin America was leaning more towards X360 but still had a good amount of PS3s after they released the first slim model etc.
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>>381670325
highest selling overall game is GTA V at about 15 million
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looks fun
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Anything that isn't FIFA or Madden isn't worth mentioning when it comes to the ps4. I feel bad for consolewar faggots and especially sonyshills.. Sad losers.
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>>381671039
you might as well say the same thing for every console
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>>381671039

What have you been playing this year in your platform of choice while Sony fans had like 8+ exclusives and all multiplats to choose from?
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>>381669991
Their fiance division is what makes the most money. They're far from being "in debt"
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>>381666067
Deadpool
:^)
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So many retards in this thread who are misinterpreting what Sony said.

The video games that have been released so far are normal video games that cater to the same people. But with Spider-man being exclusive to PS4, Sony now has a chance to cater to a specific broader demographic.
This is simple logic.
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>>381671039
Why are you pretending madden sells well? Fifa is the only sports games that sells over 10 mill consistently because football is the biggest sport
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>>381671215
They were in the red for a long time with almost all their divisions floundering around them.

Maybe if you could read you would know I wasnt talking about the current situation but before they started to pull their shit together.

>sony
>in debt
>When?
When they were in debt. They wised up since then and are starting to let others do all the hard work while they reap benefits.
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>>381670629
>Europe has been Playstation territory for more than a decade,
UK was 360 clay though.
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what's with that spiderman suit. don't tell me they are making him have web shooting machines
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>>381671294
>hurr

We all know that idiot. What demographic will spiderman be for? Because last I checked ps4 already had them all covered. Thats why it has 60 million sales
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>>381671452
And that's just one nation
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>>381671671
It's also 25% of relevant Europe.
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>>381665959
If it's good a sm2 it will to bad it won't be.
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>>381668019
It is though. PS4 hardware is fucking garbage.
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>>381671818
Nigger it's $250. What the fuck do you want?
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>>381671738
And it too is PS4 territory
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>>381671903
>>381671818
Still way better and more powerful than the Switch
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>>381671990
As is everywhere, but we were talking about ps3/360 you homo.
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>>381671521
No you are wrong. A lot of these games doesn't require Sony's platform. This game caters to people who doesn't have a PS4 and who loves spider-man. I am talking about the kiddies who only have their smartphone or who only have an xbox, toaster pc or a handheld console.

That is quite a big market and there is bound to be a sizeable chunk who has public blind love for a big franchise like spider-man.

It is quite a big opportunity. Even if it only sells them 2 million consoles it is still very very helpful for Sony in their current position.
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>>381665959
Nah Marvel comics are shit. If you like Marvel garbage buy a gun and shoot yourself.
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>>381672058
why
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>>381672052
>More powerful than a handheld using a mobile chip

Wow Impressive
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>>381672132
It is tho
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Playstation's biggest exclusive is Uncharted 4 with 8 million units, and that was in a fucking huge bundle, what the fuck makes them think that they're gonna get 100M units off this thing? It would have to be one of the biggest-selling games of ALL TIME for it to do that good.
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>>381672124
Marvel = Better heroes
DC = Better villains
But good villain > good hero
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>>381672284
The failure in basic reading comprehension is astounding.
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>>381672078
>I am talking about the kiddies who only have their smartphone or who only have an xbox, toaster pc or a handheld console.
But no one has an xbox. Are you even paying attention? PS4 already won, this wont do anything. because its marketed specifically for normies who have literally always been sonys target on the ps4 since the xbox flopped so hard.

GoW and LoU2 will on the other hand because they will draw gamers from other platforms. A silly capeshit game wont move units like so many are pretending.

Oh wait I forgot how batman was totally crucial to the sales of last gen.
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>>381666067
Pre-Gold/Blue 80s X-Men Inferno/Mutant Massacre NYC Open World Co-op Brawler.
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>>381668769
Underage.
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>>381672434
Not him but I literally bought a PS3 so I could play Arkham City. I had sworn off vidya for a couple years prior to that i was busy being addicted to heroin
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>>381669210
I think so. I was there. Unlike you underage faggot.
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>>381672783
We all get a console because one game pushes us over to pretending spiderman is in that list of games for 40milliopn people is actually retarded.
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>>381672381
I read the article numbnuts, some American Playstation nobody thinks that Spider-Man has the staying power to push units as if people haven't fucking played a Spider-Man game before. Newsflash, geniuses, there have been DOZENS of fucking Spider-Man games at this point, and most of them have been shit, with the best-selling one (and the one that everybody will say is better than the new one) is Spider-Man 2 with like 5 million lifetime units. Sony's got 40 million units to hit, and if they think that a fucking Spider-Man game is what's going to push them over the mark they're betting on the wrong fucking horse.
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>>381665959

The ps5 will be out before they even SNIFF 100 mil

Matter fact the PS5 slim, then PS5 PRO will be out before they even sell 100 million Ps4s
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I've been playing Just Cause 3 again and it's a lot of fun tethering shit and bamboozling bad guys. If Insomniac gives you that freedom to be creative with your webs then we could get something special.
Right now it looks like the webplay is mostly environmentally context sensitive for the most part.
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>>381672873
>>381673097
You're overlooking the fact that Spiderman won't be out for probably 2 years and by that point PS4 will probably be sitting at like 80 million plus units already.
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>>381665959
>Sony hopes Spider-Man will push PS4 to 100M units
Is this a goal now? is this what gaming has become? Just hoping for enough console sales via exclusives? What does this proof? it's literally ad populum
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>>381673219
So what your saying is that they will one move 20 millions with these wider audience games and their projections are a load of shit
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>>381666067
Moon Knight.

Also Dick Rider.
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If they had Spider-Man ready for this year they would have made bank if they timed it with the release of the movie.
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>>381665959

>Headline
>SONY BELIEVES SPIDER-MAN WILL PUSH PS4 TO 100 MILLION UNITS

>Article
>Quote from a rep saying that they have a variety games lined up that should expand the demographic appeal of the PS4 and pushing it to the magical 100m mark, with their most promising title being Spider-Man.
>The writer makes a baseless claim. He later says he was making a making a wild assumption about what the rep meant (despite the rep clearly saying exactly what he meant). He then writes a paragraph restating the exact same thing the rep said earlier, as if he was trying to decipher hieroglyphics.

>/v/
>LMAOTBHFAM! BLACK SPIDER-MAN WILL NEVER SELL 40 MILLION! SONY WILL NEVER REACH 100M! IT'S OVER! SONY WILL DIE THIS GEN! BANKRUPT! THERE WILL BE NO PS4! PC PORT WHEN?! FUCK THE GAMING PRESS!

This shit is going to be Dragon's Dogma $10 million sales forecast all over again. You morons bitch about clickbaiting gaming journalism but you eat their shit up all the time.
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>>381666067
Avalanche needs to make an Iron Man game with suit customization and Just Cause's destruction physics.
A high-concept side-scroller/stealth 'em up with Daredevil "seeing" the level through his 5 senses would be a great indie project. Each sense could be represented by a different color. I could see an indie studio like Mark of the Ninja's team pulling it off.
Get From Software to make an Ant-Man game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQDP7camllw
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>>381666067
X-Men.
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>>381668561

Because the Xbone didn't have games for it's last couple of years

Around the Kinect reveal, Microsoft stopped giving a shit
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>>381673692
Sony doesn't want their games to compete with big titles like Battlefront II, COD, etc


That's why most of Sony games like God of War are coming early 2018
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>>381665959
lol

spiderman
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That's pretty unrealistic unless something drastic happens. Like the PS4 slim getting another price drop to $200 or something.
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God, I want this to fail so bad.
I know Insomniac is getting a free pass with the capeshit license, but just once I want to see normies snub one of these and bring the bloated market crashing down.
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>>381674473
A less homosexual person would hope that the game was good so that they had something they could enjoy playing.
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>>381674615
Fuck off Ted Price
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>>381674473
>I want it to fail because it's not pandering to me
How are you different from feminists who cry everytime a girl shows too much cleavage in a video game?
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>>381674473

Super Hero action game market is hardly saturated

We have Batman games and fighting games. That's about it.
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>>381669210
I literally bought it for this
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>>381674737
I would suck thousands of dicks for a decent Green Lantern game.
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I love capeshit, but
>ps4 only

I am not going to buy a shitbox just to play one game. I'm not a dumb FROMshitter.
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>>381674452
>it's unrealistic that the PS4 will sell 100m
nah, rdr2, destiny 2, tlou2, yearly fifa/cod/battlefield/battlefront/, etc. will guarantee that the thing sells 100m within the next two years
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>>381668249
>The slim model is already $249.
I'm planing to buy this one and there's nothing you can do to stop me desu!
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>>381674473
Anon, you're faggotry is showing.
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>>381675330
>one game
what's this? like the 10th "one game" for PS4 now? wonder when you retards will learn to count to two.
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>>381665959
Nope, current install base will buy it. It will do 3.5-5 million lifetime sales at best .
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>>381675551
What's the appeal of the slim? Am I the only one who thinks the OG PS4 is the best looking model (especially the all matte black version?)
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>>381675672
The rest of the library is uninteresting and bland. Everything interesting is multiplat anyways, I know you shitters don't like when people say that but not everyone is a flaming faggot that devotes their soul to a chink company.
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>>381675848
Cheaper, only reason i'm considering it. Look-wise i've always preferred the bulkier consoles.
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>>381675957
Can't find a preowned one on craigslist or anything for cheaper? Gotta be able to find a fat for 150-200 now, right? Not like there's a RROD or YLOD risk nowadays.
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>>381674107
Do you really expect anything more from the underage redditors that plague /v/ these days?
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>>381675908
You sound like you have incredibly shit taste.
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>>381676264
I can do without cinematic blobfest games.
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>>381676139
I don't trust preowned stuff from people in my country, especially tech stuff. They are the kind of savages that grab a cds/dvds like a frisbee.
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>>381675442


you're forgetting that people ALREADY have Ps4's. The people who want one probably already have one, and the ones who don't probably aren't going to care about some random games.
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>>381671039

>sports games

How i know you're turbo casual
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>>381676457
Of course you can do without games, that's why you're in this thread crying about more games you can't have.
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>>381676457
>Yahoo!
*bing*
*bing*
*bing*
>1-UP
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>>381665959
Never ever
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>>381672370
Agree, Marvel villains are so shitty that they mostly use heroes as villains in their big Events
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>>381676530
Tough luck there m8. Brazilian or some other kind of monkey people?
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>>381676457
Right, which is why you play multiplats.
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>normies would buy a PS4 for a fucking spiderman game but not the greatest game of the generation
I sometimes wonder whether i'm the one with the shit taste
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>>381668249
Where are the Wii sales?
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>>381677416
>monkey people?
Denbts people. Or Greek if you prefer.
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>>381677590
>FROMshit
>great

When will this meme end? Here's a (you).
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>>381665959
Based sony.
>nintenbro think it's impossible because their wii U died before the fucking vita
LMAO
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>>381677690
You'd think being broke ass would have inspired some of your countrymen to take better care of their shit.

Incidentally I was just in ruined Greece (aka Turkey) last week. Seeing all the beautiful shit the Turks destroyed was honestly a little heart breaking.
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>>381677038
Magneto and Dr. Doom are two of the greatest villains of all time.
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>>381677736
It is though, sorry you're that autistic that you'll disagree with popular opinions no matter what they are
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>>381677842
It sounds crazy when you put it like that but then that's exactly what happened.

Did we ever get a decent answer from Sony as to why they hate the Vita? It's no PSP or 3DS (only due to lack of piracy) but it's a fucking top notch handheld. I love it.
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>>381665959
>Sony hopes Spider-Man will push PS4 to 100M units

no way fag.
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>>381665959
Bamham 2 sold 10 million and I find it unlikely that this will sell more. That was a highly hyped sequel to a game that was a proven success. Any new franchise will be met with a certain degree of skepticism, especially in this case seeing as most previous Spider Man games have been mediocre as fuck.
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>>381678168
Vita was shit because no monster hunter but im glad we aren't stuck on handhelds anymore.
T.sonybro
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>>381677926
Well ok, i kinda exaggerated a bit. They've gotten better over the years but i'm still kinda scared, but that's probably me being autistic.

>>381677938
Doom crying for 9/11
Almost ruined him for me, almost.
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>>381678469
I love my Vita and do not care about Monster Hunter, although I'm glad you're happy. What I was curious about was if Sony ever commented on why they so very clearly hate their own product.
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>>381666067
A cute Gwenpool game :3
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>>381678591
Is the slim 250 yurodollars too or is it more over there?
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Considering that even the worst capeshit sells millions nowadays, I would'n't be surprised if this QTE fest was a financial success.
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>>381665959
why is spider man so popular ? super heroes are cringe
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I can see it happening.

All of the normies I know that love the MCU/"geek" culture went nuts for this trailer.

I've been asked twice already if a "PS4 is worth it if I just want Spider-Man".

That's my own experience, fuck knows if that's a global thing or I just happen to know a bunch of gullible normies.
Or both.
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>>381678958
>super heroes are cringe
Fuck off and take your gay tumblr speech patterns with you, you homo.
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>>381678816
Cheapest one is slip 500G for 238€ and after that it's the slim 1T for 272€.
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>>381672370
Both are shit. Comics are shit. If you like comics you're a piece of shit who should hang yourself.
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>>381678653
Vita is shit bro. What games are even on that thing?
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>>381679096
272 for a 1tb sounds pretty good but
>mfw looking up the VAT in Greece
Sweet baby Jesus wtf!? Yall need to get the fuck away from Fuhrer Merkel's 4th Reich yesterday.
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>>381672370
DC Vertigo> all of Marvel
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>>381679184
So far I have:

Uncharted Golden Abyss
Assassin's Creed III Liberation (which is way better than OG AC3)
Persona 4 Golden
Killzone Mercenary
God of War 1 and 2
Playstation All Stars Battle Royale
World of Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy X/X-2
And a bunch of indies and PS One and PSP Classics

I fucking love it. It has an assload of games.
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>>381679605
Yeah, all those games are not worth paying $300 or something dollars for
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>>381679754
Who said anything about paying $300? I traded in an old 3DS XL and got the slim model and a 4gb card for 93 burger bucks out the door.
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>>381679340
Ahahahaha yeah, we're fucked. Honestly, the only reason i'm still staying here is for my family. Also because i'd hate to be another "refugee" desu.
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>>381680103
Seeing shit like that makes me glad we still have our guns. That's bullshit what they did to you guys just so Merkel and Hollande's Jewish banker buddies could collect their usury.

Oh well, at least there's still vidya.
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>>381679974
So you traded a handheld with actual games for a handheld with no games? Man, ya probably just have bad taste then.
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>>381678991
>if a "PS4 is worth it if I just want Spider-Man".
>buying a console for one game
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>>381680761
>no games
I believe I just listed multiple games.

And no I didn't have to trade in any of my 3ds games, I still have all of them. I'm upgrading to the new 2ds XL next month. If you think a Vita and a 4gb card for 93 dollars is too expensive you must be a non-white.
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>>381665959
It's coming out in Holiday 2018 so going by their current momentum it should hit right around that number even without spiderman anyway.
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>>381681353
All those games are on other platform, and you're clearly the non white because only a dumb fuck would actually buy a vita lmao
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>>381681716
>All those games are on other platform
No.
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>>381667840
If that was true they would not have included Miles Morales.
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>>381668249
If PS4 is selling pretty much the same as PS3/360 did in the same timeframe with 60M units, and the Xbone has somehow sold about 30M units then it looks like the console market is in a better place this gen than it was last gen. Guess all those people saying consoles are dead or dying were wrong.
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>>381665959
>an Insomniac game having proper commercial success
won't happen
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>>381682135
>and the Xbone has somehow sold about 30M units
Seriously how? Did Phil buy half of them himself?

Anyway I think what's helping this gen is that the price drops happened much sooner than last gen and we didn't end up with a worldwide depression shortly after both consoles launched. But yeah, people who predicted the end of consoles were, and will continue to be, pants on head retarded. Knowing this it's no surprise a great many of these people are employed by Microsoft.
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>>381666558
Remember, this is the same company that banked on a Ghostbusters remake being the big cinematic release of 2016, and scrapped Genndy's Popeye movie for a 90-minute Emoji advert.

Speaking of which, despite how well the PS4 has done thus far, Sony still needs to sell plenty more to make up for how abysmally their other departments have performed recently. So them saying "we need to somehow sell 40M more consoles with Spiderman" kind of checks out.
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>>381682285
What do you mean by this? Besides like two black sheep games, the company usually is successful when putting out a passion project.
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>>381666067
Heroes for Hire beat em up
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>>381682857
Not all of Sony is doing that bad anymore. Really just their phone and film business are fucked at this point. The music business is doing well, as is the camera business, and their tv/bluray have started to turn it around. They also have a large financial services division in Asia that's done well.

But yeah, their film studio is a shitshow of epic proportions atm.
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>>381682570
I think it's the price drops too for why the Xbone sold. I mean if you're already on the market for a Bluray player and a roku, you can pretty much just get a current gen console instead for about $100 more than that which is a really good deal.
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>>381683860
Maybe that's why Xbone finally started to sell a few units once they released the S. If someone was simply looking for a bluray player and a netflix box the HDR and HD bluray support would make it a much better buy than the PS4.

Think you might have hit the nail on the head.
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>>381684205
People honestly don't care about that shit anymore like they use to 10 uears ago, Xbox s sold because it wasn't a huge fuck, cheap and sold entirely on brand name
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>>381682883
after Resistance 2 they had nothing of noteworthy success, other than the first weeks of the RC remake and A Crack in Time
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>>381684479
Then why didn't anyone buy it before the S was released? There had already been some significant price drops before the S came out.
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>>381665959
>Sonyfags are so delusional because the company they worship is delusional
Suddenly it all makes sense.
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>>381684205
And since most casuals only really care about multiplats like Fifa, Madden, AssCreed, etc then the cheaper Xbone S bundles would be a better deal.
Forgot to mention but with their added 360 backwards compatibility I bet people with 360s that had theirs die recently whether through age or RRoD just bought an Xbone to replace it. So that price to play their old games, new current gen games, DVDs/Blurays, and streaming apps is a very, very good deal.
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>>381684871
>Most a game on PS4 has ever sold was around 15 million
>Sony thinking that Spiderman alone will sell 40 million UNITS
>Not copies, but UNITS
I can't wait for Sony to get a firm backhand to the face when the new console generation comes around so they can come back to reality. They're the ones that need it the most.
>Only PS4 exclusive in the top 10 is Uncharted 4, and that's only because it was a bundle
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>>381684969
>I bet people with 360s that had theirs die recently whether through age or RRoD just bought an Xbone to replace it.
This is a very good point also. If I ever end up buying an Xbone that's exactly why it will happen. I even caught myself pricing one out at gamestop the other day for that very reason.

I hope I never have to because I have a 360 S, which are less likely to RROD, but I do always have that in the back of my mind when I'm using it.
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>>381684746
>Then why didn't anyone buy it before the S was released

Because of the initial E3 fucking up, S was released when that drama calmed down and the slim came out and was re-advertised with new games like Gears 4 and Forza and other bundles at a cheap prize and ya know, it was new.
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>>381668249
Based sony, the king is back after such a shit 7th gen
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>>381672132
>More powerful than a handheld using a mobile chip
>Swith is less powerful than a soon 5 years old console
wow, this is fucking pathetic even for nintendo
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I would have brought an Xbone too for scalebound since they're cheap as fuck but they had to fuck up.

When will they release a big budget RPG exclusive for fuck sake, they had to cancel the original fable project
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>>381685287
>being angry at a corporation because it isn't your preferred corporation to take your money
>having any emotional attachment to corporations one way or another
>ever
What's it like living with a mental disability?
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>>381685287
>asshurt xcuck
Damn bro it's okay
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>>381685635
>>381685642
>Sony does the most anti-consumerist shit and gets away with it
>People still defend them
It's like I'm really on Neogaf
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>>381685397
Did normies really pick up on the E3 shitshow though? I guess I always just kind of figured it went right over their heads.
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>>381666067
Heroes for Hire
Shang-Chi
Nextwave
Nova (preferably an Annihilation game in general)
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>>381685723
Hey man just because sony is destroying your platform of choice doesn't mean you have to be so upset cuck, also this is nintendogaf sweetie.
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>>381685930
But I'm an idort. I like my PS4 but Sony are a bunch of fucking assholes.
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>>381685582
>When will they release a big budget RPG exclusive for fuck sake,
Never. M$ is too stupid to understand tbe point of any game that isn't an always online micro-transaction fest or 6-8 hour dudebro shooter with easily micro-transactionable multiplayer components.
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>>381685723
Yeah, I don't know what's with this much amount of retard either.

I'm all on Sony this generation, bought a PS4 and don't plan on buying a Xbone, but Sony has its head way up its own ass with the backwards compatibility thing.

Microsoft is currently dominating the subject, and if they sleep on too much we might see a ps3-360 situation again in the distant future.
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>>381665959
Why do Sony fans always hype average to above average exclusives that sell 3mil tops over the actual fun games that sell well over 5 million? I hear so much here about Bloodborne and it barely just recently cracked the top 40 in sales for just Sony games.
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>>381685759
Na, after E3 the xbox fuck up spreads tons of memes on the internet so people who didn't even watch it was aware and then through word of mouth so normfalfags were aware and once they saw everyone getting a ps4 it was over.

Then the S came out when people moved on from that shit
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>>381686026
And microsoft and nintnedo isn't? You do realize microsoft is being more consumer friendly is because they're anally getting ass fucked by sony. None of these corporations are your friends,
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>>381685723
>Sony does the most anti-consumerist shit
Please explain how Sony could possibly be interpreted as less consumer friendly than Nintendo or M$. I'm not defending Sony but I'm curious to see what kind of mental gymnastics you've deluded yourself with to think that either of the other two are anything other than horrible to their consumers.
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By the time it comes out the system will possibly be at 70 or maybe even 80 units.

I don't think spiderman alone will sell 20m, but combined with days gone, god of war, and TLOU2, absolutely a feasible thing.
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>>381671039
This is true. My PS4 is a multiplat machine. I don't own a single exclusive. When my bros are online we either jam on Rocket League or play smash on WiiU.
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>>381682857
>and scrapped Genndy's Popeye movie for a 90-minute Emoji advert.
It's not hard to see which one of those would be more profitable though.
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>>381671112
Other consoles have good exclusives. Actual system sellers
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>click article
>obvious clickbait literally who site
>SONY BOSS SAYS THEY WILL SELL 100 MILLIONS SPIDERMAN GANES
>click hyperlink
>no mention of 100 million from him and pretty much talks about how they plan to move forward
>/v/eddit are still talking as if OP was serious
People still pretend this board isn't filled with children.
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>>381671039
>asshurt nintenbro upset his shilling couldn't save the wii u
Lmao!
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>>381685723
Sony didn't advertise dozens of timed exclusives at E3
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>>381686239
>consumer
If M$ was smart they would have named the Xbone S something other than Xbone anything. The Xbone name itself was complete shit and I'm amazed it even sold as well as it did.
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So far it looks pretty good. Even if the web-slinging isn't quite the same as SM2, if it feels fun enough that'll be good enough for me. Combat might take some getting used to, but I am digging how you can yank a lot of environmental stuff to smack around the bad guys.

And why the fuck is the damn captcha not working right?
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>>381671818
>PS4 hardware is fucking garbage.
Yet it's 4 years old and still had better hardware than the 4 month old Switch.
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>>381686562
/v/ just wants shit to throw doesn't matter if it's real or not.
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>>381686623
>Meanwhile the only worthwhile thing at Sony's conference was SotC Remake
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>>381686798
Well atleast sonyfats had games to play in 2017 regardless

>xbots literally only have halo wars 2 to play for this year
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>>381677590
Nobody gives a shit about exclusives in the grand scheme of things. If BB didn't exist, the PS4 would still sell just as well as it's doing. Only the autists here care about exclusives. I would know, my PS4 was a BB machine for years until I got another 2 games for it.
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>>381687002
Can't you just play that on windows 10?
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>>381685723
For one, most people who are big Sony owners still have their old fucking PlayStations, so it hardly inconveniences them if they still can't play Spyro 2 on the PS4. While it would be nice if Sony stopped skirting around the issue and just go through with BC like they had tried with PS3, it's not like there isn't anything going for the current system itself.
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>>381686798
GoW, Spider-Man, and days gone.
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>>381687124
>days gone
lmao
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>>381686702
My PC has better hardware than both, Switch at least has/will have some good games I can't play on PC. PS4 is pointless unless you really want the three or four good exclusives released in its four years on the market.

Consoles in general are selling less than they did years ago, 6th and 7th gen were unprecedented highs and 8th gen probably won't even match 5th gen totals. PS4 is the only console that sold well, Wii U was dead in the water from the start and Xbone has likely reached a point of saturation.
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>>381687124
>Days Gone
Is this a joke? That game looked genuinely horrible.
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>>381665959
>no pizza delivery missions
they wish
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>>381687180
Yea, I need to see more of it, but it could be interesting.
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>>381687180
>>381687230
>it doesn't count because we don't like it
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>>381687180
>>381687230
>Salty babies upset they won't be able to play unless they have a sony system
Lmfao
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>>381687009
>Nobody gives a shit about exclusives in the grand scheme of things
I don't know about that. The only reason I bought a 360 was to play the exclusives I couldn't play on PS3. Now when I buy multiplats for that gen I usually get them on 360.

Same thing with the bone: if they would just come out with a few exclusives worth a damn I would absolutely buy it at the current price point. But as things stand now they only way I'll ever buy one is if my 360 RRODs.
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>>381687124
None of those were new announcements, and two, if not all three, were shown at E3 last year already.

The only new stuff shown was MH Worlds, which is multiplat, and the SotC remake, which is, obviously, a remake and not a new game.
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>>381687264
>Hear kids screaming
>Swing into vicinity to see what's wrong
>"Our balloons!"
>[Grab as many balloons as possible within the time limit!]
>One of the trophies is retrieving every balloon
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>>381687216
>My PC has better hardware than both,
Holy shit, really bro?
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>>381665959
Why are we pretending movie games are no longer shovelware?
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>>381686702
This. Pc+ps4 is the best combo. Switch is okay if you like babby shit games, hell i almost bought it for monster hunter but lmao based capcom is releasing it on pc and ps4. The only thing i might have to buy a switch for is SMT 5
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I honestly love reading /v/ 's destroyed asses over and over throughout the years.
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>>381687389
Shit I guess if they already showed them I can't be interested in them anymore.
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>>381687568
Because occasionally one comes out that is actually good.
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>>381687568
Because this isn't a movie game.
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>>381687613
You type like a faggot and your shit's all retarded.
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>>381687009
Core customers and hobbyists do, norimes don't.

Once the normies move on, the core/hobbyists will still be there and they've been turned off in a big way by th mass-market appeal consoles have taen in recent years. Publishers and console makers are appealing to an audience that may not stick around in such large numbers in the long run at the cost of alienating those that will.

8th gen convinced me I no longer need to care about Playstation or Xbox, the vast majority of what they have is also on PC. So while exclusives won't net huge short-term profits from "normies" and casuals, they keep long-term hobbyists interested. The western industry has been too focused on the short-term, and their business models are just not sustainable and are actively alienating hobbyists and long-term customers.
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>>381687617
Nintendogaf is always wrong.
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>>381687756
you seem butthurt nintenbro
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>>381686459
>It's not hard to see which one of those would be more profitable though
Yeah, one is actually an iconic symbol for a whole generation and Emojis are just shit people use when they want to be lazy fucks.

Trust me, my mom and dad would have went to the movie theaters for it in a heart beat because of the fawn memories they share watching it together.
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>>381687816
>The western industry has been too focused on the short-term
Welcome to Capitalism
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>>381687864
>nintendogaf

retard spotted
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>>381687631
Well they sure as shit didn't "win" E3 with games I already knew about, a single multiplat and a remake. MS had dick too, but I'll still give them both credit for at least sticking to games and not talking about other bullshit. However, Nintendo announced several new and exclusive games, some of which had a decent amount of gameplay footage, so they had the best showing this year.

Spiderman was also pretty disappointing, the combat looks very stiff and scripted, much like the Batman games. One thing I noticed, the player in the E3 demo never seemed to move around independently while in combat, he would be standing still or would trigger a scripted dodge/attack animation. So correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure I never saw Spiderman actually walking and moving independently during combat, which struck me as odd.
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>>381688202
When was we talking about winning e3, and how gives a shit if they didn't, they still have games I'm interested in.
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>>381688143
Well then its just bad use of capitalism, its not sustainable and will ultimately lead to less money for these publishers and their investors in the long run. Capitalism isn't inherently evil, we're not in high school anymore.
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>>381688202
m8 that spiderman trailer wasn't gameplay, it was 100% CGI.

Next you're gonna tell me you thought that "gameplay trailer" of KH3 where sora's being chased by so many fucking heartless it looks like a trackmania replay was real too.
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>>381688194
Hey nintenbro you still upset about monster hunter worlds?
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>>381688202
They said the demo was altered for the presentation so it looked more seamless with the cutscenes and combat. Actual game will have open-world and more to do in it.
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>>381687346
I own a PS4 and have no interest in buying any of those games.
Days gone looks like a shitty cover based shooter with zombies instead of mutant plant monsters in TLOU.
Spiderman looks like Arkham WB shit when everyone wanted Spider Man 2-2: Electric Boogaloo
GoW is the worst just from the camera angle change and the combat slowness alone. Holy fuck they actually ruined GoW one of the best games from the last 2 gens is now cinematic bullshit because Sony are massive retards.
I honestly want to sell my PS4 especially since the number of good games is basically equal to every first party I have for my Switch when PS4 is more expensive and you have to pay $60 for online. Fuck Sony, I'm not going back unless they make online free again.
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>>381665959
game could be utter shit, it doesn't matter as they they keep pouring cash into marketing it will happen
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>cod, fifa, battlefront, destiny

all of these will still assrape spiderman, also spiderman is coming at the same time as RDR2, hahaha everyone is gonna spend their money on that
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>>381688396
It was in-game though. It was just presented in a very cinematic way.
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>>381669852
Although I don't like the idea of buying a slightly better better version of something I already own, a sale is a sale. If someone bought a Pro while already having a PS4 or slim, then they liked it enough to warrant the sale.
Same with the rrod issue on the 360, I wouldn't have bought a new one after a manufacturing error, but my friend bought 4 over the course of the consoles lifespan, he clearly liked it enough to purchase another. A sale's a sale. The amount of actual users doesn't actually factor in.
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>>381686281
no cross play
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>>381688536
>also spiderman is coming at the same time as RDR2
No retard
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>>381688728
they're both early 2018 you retard
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>>381688489
Damn, i guess you have different taste from other people because millions of people will be buying these and will actually enjoy them.
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>>381688384
>Its only not about winning when Sony isn't, baby

I just think Sony's presentation was disappointing, sorry.

No big reveals beyond MH, which again I don't need their console to play, and a lot of the games they showed just looked boring. I was hoping they'd finally convince me to buy their shitbox, but they didn't.

Fine if you think Days gone and GoW look good, but I don't agree. Gameplay looks like the same third-person scripted shit we've had for a decade, if you showed me a brief snippet of the MC in either of those two games or TLOU2 I wouldn't necessarily be able to tell the difference beyond knowing that Kratos is covered in ash. Too much focus on IP and story while gameplay stagnates and panders to the lowest common denominator in an effort to sell as many copies as possible. Spiderman fell victim to the latter bit there as well, combat looks even more scripted than BamHam was, with more QTEs and less direct control.
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>>381688697
But it has crossplay with Steam and did it for years
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>>381688697
Sony does have crossplay on a lot of titles though. Also on PS Now.
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>>381666067
X-Men Action RPG
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>>381665959
They could do literally any other marvel character and it would be more interesting.
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>>381665959
I bought mine yesterday, I wonder how am I gonna afford the PS4 new releases tho.
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>>381688859
Same year =/= Same release date
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>>381665959
No wonder the game looks so derivative and uninspired.
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>>381688859
Wrong fucktard. Summer 2018 assuming it doesn't get delayed (which it will).
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>>381689082
>>381689169


it comes out before spiderman retard, no one cares about the 10th spiderman game
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>>381665959
They don't even need Spiderman to reach that.
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>>381688468
That in and of itself is a red flag though. Why would they even do that? To appeal to people who don't play games and would be put off by the fact that the game looks and plays like a game? If that's who they're designed it for then I'm dubious for that reason alone. Its also just confusing, I'm put off by the footage they've shown but am supposed to have faith that it wasn't the REAL gameplay? No, I'll remain skeptical, no one gets the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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>>381665959
I bought a ps4 pro for spiderman, of course i wanted to play shit like BB and other exclusives too. Spiderman alone won't make it sell 40m consoles but it will help.
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>>381666067
>All these posts and still nobody got it right
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>>381689219
>I-I-It comes out a little before it!
>An-and nobody would care about it anyway!
Nice goalpost shift there.
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When will we get the Spider-man game we've all been waiting for?
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>>381689334
that was my goal the whole time? why is there hype for spiderman now? Sonygros with no games? I didn't see anyone talk about the spiderman games last-gen
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>>381666067
A sequel to punisher no mercy
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>>381689219
>it comes out before spiderman
So does every game every released so far, what's your fucking point? Doesn't sound like the same to me.

They aren't even being released in the same quarter.
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>>381689239
Just how game are presented these days, mate. It's sad, but true. Before it would just early footage spliced with high-end "cutscenes" to hype people up, but nowadays it's just spectacle with little gameplay until the things are ready to drop on store shelves. But at least Insomniac has confirmed the game won't be as on-rails, and we'll be able to sling around New York to our heart's content.
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>>381687216

>Consoles in general are selling less than they did years ago, 6th and 7th gen were unprecedented highs and 8th gen probably won't even match 5th gen totals. PS4 is the only console that sold well, Wii U was dead in the water from the start and Xbone has likely reached a point of saturation.

PS4 is doing better than PS2, apparently Xbone is doing fine, hell even the piece of shit known as Switch is doing fine
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>>381689471
>I didn't see anyone talk about the spiderman games last-gen
I did during the Xbox/PS2 gen. You probably weren't alive yet though.
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>>381668140
This
>you will never be able to customize your own mech
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>>381666067
Marvel is fucking garbage outside X-Men and they've pretty much been excommunicated at this point.
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>>381689471
Because most of them weren't all that good. Web of Shadows had some decent combat chops to it, but looked undercooked even on the PC. Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time were fairly forgettable, and both ASM games were pretty poor compared to SM2.
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Since it's the first PS4 game, it might do well in sales.
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>>381677736
Not an argument
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>>381677736
Nice goalpost shift
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>>381689810
Not sure what you mean? It's certainly not the first Spiderman game on the PS4 if that's what you're talking about.
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>>381688957
nice blog post. if only you put this much effort into your life, you wouldn't be arguing about video games on the Internet
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>>381689219
They said the first half of 2018, idiot. RDR2 is slated for after.

Stay retarded.
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>>381690207
It was just shitposting.
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what did they mean by this
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>>381689872
>>381689975
>>381677995

Just because a game has a meme difficulty level and requires you to autistically memorize enemy moves doesn't mean it's good.

Hell, even the worn out arguments like "i-it's just like le good old NES games" don't cut it, because back then, a game with clunky controls, no proper tutorial and directions was considered dogshit.
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>>381690698
Not even going to read what you wrote because it's clearly contrarian bullshit and retarded.
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>>381666067
A Dazzler rhythm game
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>>381690779

>HE DOESN'T LIKE LE BEST GAME OF ALL TIME
>HE'S A CONTRARIAN
>REEEEEEEEE

Here's your (you), now fuck off, soulshitter.
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>>381665959
Sonybro here

That won't happen. People are NOT that interest in capeshit.
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>>381691139
>Here's your (you)
Ironic, considering the shit you write sounds like nothing but fishing for (You)s and not actual opinions worth debating. Stay retarded, kiddo.
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>>381689737
>>381668140
there are already 3 Iron Man games
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>>381688000
>Yeah, one is actually an iconic symbol for a whole generation
Unfortunately emojis ARE an iconic symbol for this generation and guaranteed to make far more bank than Popeye.
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>>381691179
Someone is buying all the tickets to these neverending capeshit movies.

God only know who..but someone.
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>Questioning Sony's level of delusion
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>>381691401
There were batman and spider-man games before the AAA ones. What is your point?
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>>381691797
What the fuck did I just read?
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>>381690698
>meme difficulty
Not an argument
>autistically memorize enemy moves
Never been a thing with the games. Come up with an actual point against the game.

It seriously sounds like you aren't even trying and are just dismissing the game on a selfish bias.
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>>381691179
>People are NOT that interest in capeshit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
/v/ lives inside such a bubble
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>>381666067
Wouldn't mind seeing a new Hulk game. Been so long since Ultimate Destruction.
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>>381693267
Could be cool. Guess it would be like a beat em up?
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>>381693632
I guess, basically take what UD did, but make it bigger and better in every way possible. More buildings to smash and crumble, more enemies to pummel into the ground, and capturing what it means to be the Hulk
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