ITT Casual Filters

>>381657778
Just do a hard tilt and ball jumps over the fence over to the exit

>>381658017
Yeah this is easy as fuck OP I dont get it. Took me like 30 seconds. I did it in Cemu too.

How the fuck is this a casual filter when you can just leave the shrine?

If anything is worthy of being called that is the weapon degradation system. Hell, even people that play games all the time were bitching about it (despite it not being that bad).

It was hard as fuck in cemu

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>>381657778

just turn the fuckin controller upside-down

>>381658713
my life is upside down.

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Pity it was at the end of the game

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>>381657778

>mfw I just flipped it over and used the back

>>381658595

What was it about this one that made it so hard for all of us? Is it just the distractions of what's going on?

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can't wait for Redux so I can play this shit all over again.

>>381657778
What, you didn't play that old Labyrinth game on Windows XP?

>>381659298
I used this very map for sector E. Fuck you, I don't care anymore

>>381657778
except botw is literally a casual normie gamie for ninten-babies and little kids starting to get into video games.

>>381659780
then why do people die so much at it?

>>381659780
>>381659837
It's the dark souls of zelda.

>>381659780
What games do you like and consider for adults, anon?

>>381659890
Dark Souls is the Zelda 2 of 7th gen.

>>381658889
Then turn the controller right-side-up dummy

>>381659780
Ah no actually if you go around there are tons of complaints about the difficulty, especially on normie sites like facebook

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>die twice in a row
>game offers to switch to Easy
The salt on /v/ when DMC3 was released was amazing.

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>>381657778
The gift of the godhead cometh!

>>381657778
I did this shit on a moving bus. Was frustrating as fuck.

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>>381659024
>mfw I did that too

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The bad kind of casual filter
>too early, pretty much chapter 2.. and a chapter is usually 1-2 dungeons + boss long
>in the first game of the series when you are still understanding the game mechanics
>requires an item(Life Rings) that becomes available right before the dungeon
>Life Rings cost some credits and force you to do a few side-quests

An experienced Nep player knows how to handle turn order and give the right priority to things(like which items to buy), making the fight not hard at all - but a novice will be very easily crushed

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>>381657778

>Tiny section of a kids board game
>That is casualised
>"Casual filter"

>>381661720
And I forgot the most important thing

>You fight a bird boss right after this one without healing in-between so you can get wiped in one fucking turn if your party isn't ready after the previous fight
You can cheat it making sure you are going to level up right after the boss bird though since there is level up healing

>>381660107
>casual filter
>L I T E R A L L Y the last level in the game

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Hi

>>381658230
>not being that bad
>quickest weapon degradation in vidya history
For the record I'm not saying that it made the game hard, just annoying as fuck

>>381659298
"How" to play this game?

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>>381657778

>>381662571
what do you mean ''how''?

>>381659218
The action causes the balance meter to shunt to extremes and timed in a way to trap you if you were not near dead center when they happen.

>>381662704
Sorry, which version would you recommend; is there a PC version?

>>381662146
This

Casual Filter means an E A R L Y an O B L I G A T O R Y(read: not the last level, not an optional boss, not a side-quest) section of the game where the difficulty suddenly spikes enough to filter out who has been playing the game casually and didn't master the mechanics(at least the ones available for the challenge, of course - not the whole game) yet

What is a casual filter
>early hard level, like if a game has 100 levels, you expect the casual filter to be one of the first 10
>early enemy or boss fight that is considerably harder than the first ones and requires more skill in the first sections of the game(read: the first 10 levels out of 100)
>early hard puzzle or mechanic that requires more thinking/practical skills

What is NOT a casual filter
>any optional content
>a level in the middle of a game that is a huge difficulty spike BUT DOESN'T HAPPEN EARLY
>the last boss
>a common enemy that is hard to deal with but appears considerably later than the first sections of the game
>diffculty spikes in general, they are filters only and only if they are in the early part of the game

>>381663357
No it isn't. Casual filter is just a sudden jump in difficulty that a player wasn't expecting, doesn't matter where it happens, as long as it's not a part of steady difficulty curve..

>>381657778
>Casual filter
IF you mean doing it the slow and intended way. Sure. The easiest approach is to just fling it over with power.

>>381663561
You are a retard

The point of the casual filter is, like the word says, to filter out casuals right at the start of the game and NOT just have a sudden hard section - the word you are looking for is "difficulty spike"

>>381663561
Yes it is. An endboss or a last level or 100%ing a game can't be a casual filter, because an endboss et cetera is supposed to be hard and you expect a sudden jump in difficulty.

>>381663740
Why does it have to be at the start of the game? The word "filter" does not imply any early placement, it just means a place casuals couldn't get past, that could be anywhere.

>>381663228
It's only a DS game.

>>381663816
But likewise, an hard boss in the middle of the game isn't that surprising since you are supposed to be accustomed to the mechanics after the first sections of the game

>>381663859
Again, this is "difficulty spike"
It makes absoutely no sense to call it a casual filter when you have reached the middle or the end of the game already and you ARE SUPPOSED to know how to play the game even if you are a complete casual at this point

>>381662582
Yeah desu I know many people who gave up at this point.

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As always

>>381658643
>>381662582
I only played through Stalker once, but is this the place where you have your first encounter with a lot of bandits and you end up save scumming and fighting the place for many ingame days while shooting with guns that doesn't seem to do anything?

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>>381657778
>Q's you
>Q's you again
>Q's you a third time
>You're dead and so are your forts.

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You know this one

Made me switch from Lunatic to Hard in the very first gameplay of Conquest... thought I was ready to play in the hardest difficulty and I was doing well before it

>>381664331
that's the first mission in the game
it's easy honestly just knife them

>>381657778
My sister beat this in her second try, what are you talking about.

>>381658454
try to bounce the ball high or wait for it to drop down on repspawn then WHACK the shit into the goal like you're playing pingpong

>>381663561
Retard

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>>381659024
me too desu

>>381663859
A casual doesn't finish games, you silly

>>381663228
Emulate it

>>381663996
It doesn't have to be surprising, it just has to be hard, like an endboss. A casual will never get past this part. Nowhere does it say it has to be early on or whatever, what a stupid thing to get uppity about.

>>381664884
Refer to >>381664815

>>381664429
>having trouble in an FE game
>the most casual kawaii uguu waifu FE to boot
The fuck's is wrong with you? Better not play any other entry cause you might get lost in the title screen you disabled retard.

>>381664923
Of course they finish games, what are you talking about?

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Honorable mention: hauler beasts

>>381664974
>Conquest
>Casual
You are thinking about Birthright or Revelation
Conquest on Lunatic is notoriously very difficult

I have played previous entries and they were actually incredibly easy, especially the GBA ones

>>381665312
Fuck off, Rekka no Ken on Hector Hard mode completely shits over nu-emblem fates.

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>>381662202
>2 Bishop

>>381665392
No. Rekka no Ken has been a snorefest and Hector hard mode was a bit annoying but nothing compared to this bullshit and the chapters after 20

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i kept tapping the sticks, not holding them in the direction

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>>381665607
HAHAHAHAHAHA, a single optional chapter in any of the GBA or SNES games makes your overrated garbage a joke.

>>381665704
>optional

>>381665312
isn't that the game where you can buy dlc to train your units?

>>381665764
>t-t-t-that doesn't count because I say so

>>381665794
Yes, but of course I am excluding the use of DLCs

If you use them everything is easy even in Conquest

>>381665872
You are comparing an optional chapter to obligatory chapter 10 in Conquest

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People usually post Yakuza in these threads but Serris is probably a better example of a casual filter.

>>381665969
>Yes, but of course I am excluding the use of DLCs
So the game is easier than past entries then, regardless of your irrelevant exception rules, good to know.
>you are comparing
But nothing in Fates compares to it, optional or not.

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>>381657778
Just turn it upside down, lads.

>>381666039
Hell no, even a casual mouthbreather like woolie managed to beat him.

>>381665607
Talking about FE7...
>last chapter
I remember that was also pretty fucking hard, but abusing Athos worked wonders

>>381666080
>exception rules
DLCs are optional as much as your chapter.
Remove them and Conquest becomes harder unless you pay to win

>>381666716
I don't get this one

You can capture Mareep and it will learn a fighting move iirc... other than that Static has a good chance to paralyze it and indeed happened in my game

>>381667256
The fact that so many people had trouble with her implies they didn't know/do that, anon.

>>381666039
>Serris
>difficult
Naw man. Yakuza gets it not because he's hard, but because you have to have decent mastery of the controls to be able to aim missles up his head hole fast enough. We all know casuals crumble under pressure

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>>381665615
naw mane, this was the real casual filter

>>381658148
>Cemu
I wonder who is behind this post

>>381660168
>Play DMC3 on launch
>Have to get gud but do
>Beat it and go through the other difficulties
>New version out is easier
I never did play the special edition, but damn. It bothers me that they were playing on easy mode when going through normal.

>>381667603
who?

>>381665084
Motherfucker

>>381658017
>>381658148
There's another version of this shrine that looks similar at first but it has spikes on the underside, so you can't do that trick.
They actually anticipated people flipping the board over that they made an identical one where you can't. Pretty clever

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I was born in a crossfire hurricane.

>>381667256
It's because once you realize your mistake, rollout can start sweeping your team. Usually you're a few levels under so bursting a bulky mon can be difficult. It's overrated but still probably one of the few places you could lose in a non crit-related way

>>381667863
Never mind I was thinking of the trick where you flip it over completely and it removes the maze since it is just flat on the other side. I'm a fucktard

>>381667941
>one of the few places you could lose in a non crit-related way
I agree but what were the others?

I could beat Red with LV.60 mons, none of the elite 4 were challenging in the slightest and the champion was spamming Ice Beam and Blizzard

>>381668239
Pretty sure most people that picked charmander couldn't beat Brock the first time in r/b/y and had to go back to train/catch some mons.

>>381657778
>>381658017
>>381658148
>>381658713
>>381659024
Is Switch gyro worse than the WiiU gamepad?
Because I had no problem doing ball mazes the "legit" way but that is on WiiU.
However the golf shrines suck ass.

>>381660168
>>381667654
>play DMC4
>smash head against boss
>finally win
>feel good
>complete stage
>rewards screen shows enemy handicap

>>381666716
i beat this piece of shit in my first try with my second evo totodile, i seriously don't get why so many people had trouble with it

>>381664331
no, it's where you either git gud or git out

>>381659492
>looking up a map online
>not drawing the layout of the teleporters on actual paper
fucking lazy faggot

>>381669656
you can draw the map in-game on the touchscreen, anon, like etrian odyssey.

>>381661720
>>381662069
What you described is actually the best kind of casual filter, since actually knowing how to play the game allows you to not get shit on. I guess it being too early is an issue, though.

>>381669719
The game draws your map automatically as you walk and I don't remember if I found it easier to mark the teleporters on an actual piece of paper or if you actually can't mark anything on the map

>>381670019
>The game draws your map automatically as you walk
That too, but you can draw things you see in the distance, not to mention walls which the game doesn't keep track of.
> I found it easier to mark the teleporters on an actual piece of paper or if you actually can't mark anything on the map
You can, there's tons of icons you can use to mark things on the map including stairs and teleporters.

>>381669771
The main issues are 2

Life Rings cost an amount of credits that forces you to play some side-quests and it's near to impossible defeating her without wearing at least one of them since you constantly risk a OHKO

If you haven't played previous Nep games you don't know how turn order works because it's never explained in-game; basically you have an hidden delay meter that will make your turn come later if you end your combos or move from your position before attacking/using a skill

In that screenshot I will only get 2 turns for Neptune and for IF before the boss if I don't move and don't finish combos

>>381666080
>Irrelevant exception rules
>If you don't pay money to make the game easier your opinion is skewed and invalid
wut

>>381670889
That anon is just
>muh old FE are better than new FE waifu there is no way they can be actually more than waifu reeeeeeeeeee
Ignore him, was my fault even answering to him after that message

>inb4 samefag

>>381665704
>GBA fire emblems
>hard
brainlet pls

>>381671421
To be fair FE7 last chapter is pretty bullshit, but you have Athos who can take care of most bosses with few support

>>381671421
saying that something's harder than nu-emblem =! hard

>>381671616
wot.

Hector can curbstomp all the bosses from how overpowered he is and you can leave super eliwood for the dragon even if you never trained him before like I did.

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9 games, still a casual filter in each and every one of them.

>>381671734
I don't remember much, it has been years I played FE7 but I sure remember struggling in that chapter

>>381667917
Nothing was particularly bad in the English version.

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>>381657778
It took me too long to realize how the gyro works.

>tilting the gamepad almost at a 90 degree angle but the momentum is completely shit, ball just drops down
>mfw my brother comes in and tells me to try tilting faster

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I figured SM had the same difficulty as XY. Boy was I wrong.

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>nintendo kiddies consider this hard

>>381672271
You're right, SM is far easier. It's braindead difficulty with barely any (if any) trainers having more than 3 pokemon.

>>381666039

Snoozefest of a boss. Boring as shit with hype music in the background

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Strangely, I never had problems with Whitney, she was fairly easy for me to deal with as a kid with Silver and as a teen when I played Soulsilver. Morty however kicked my fucking ass. because Hypnosis and I never bothered to use a Normal-type.

>>381657778
I never had any trouble with this, and I have a hard time understanding how anyone could. People whine about the gyro not being accurate, what are they waving the controller around?

Some people just seem to lack the patience and coordination to play vidya properly I guess.

Even the Katosa Aug Apparatus, I think it was, where you control the putter and golf an orb around the bend into the receptacle. Got it on my second try. I watch videos and people are waving the mallet around like a fucking fairy wand and flipping their shit. I just don't get it.

>>381672981
Because you're a superior human being.

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>>381664315
>he looked up how to get Uzume and then grinded to 18 to beat Matador

>>381672904
>because Hypnosis
>getting fucked that hard by RNG
pfft

>>381672492
This. I get to the last piece of land in the entire game, Poni Gauntlet, and there are still trainers with only one fucking Pokemon. Never mind that I'm already over-leveled as fuck by virtue of simply fighting every trainer I come across. They're just EXP capsules, pretty much, more than any other game in the series.

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Phase 2.

>>381673635
>uses fire attack
PSSSH NOTHING PERSONNEL DUMB SNAKE

>>381673694
>rng random status effect attack turns your MC into rock and is an instant game over
haha have to do the whole fight again.

>>381673221
Not gonna lie, I actually grinded my Inugami until it evolved. It was the best thing I had on me.

>>381668385
If you only use char you easily have the levels to sweep brock as you'll most likely be charmeleon at that point. If you don't, chances are you caught a caterpie and by the time you're at the first town it will be a butter free and you'll be on ez street with poison/paralyze powder

>>381660212

I had to have my friend be p2 and use the star to hold enemies and shit at the end. That was so fucking hard.

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>>381673116
T-thanks I guess

>>381674151
>If you only use char you easily have the levels to sweep brock as you'll most likely be charmeleon at that point
I've never seen this happen, every single first time playthrough has people having trouble with him because charmander can't handle it so they have to go back and grind.

>>381666039
I love Metroid but Speeed is by far my most hated powerup.

>Trying to 100% Zero mission

Fuck you.

>>381673037
I think that's a bit late in the game to be a casual filter
Skullman would be a good one if he wasn't optional

>>381674524
It doesn't matter how far it is, it's the only remotely non-easy part of the game, if it weren't for that part a casual could steamroll the game.

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>>381664315
>get Uzume and/or Nekomata or the force magatama
>shit all over him
Matador and Minotaur have to be the memeiest bosses in Atlus games or people just fucking suck

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water blast.

mirage.

>>381663357
I would actually go even further and say a casual filter isn't necessarily "hard", rather it's an obstacle of some kind that can't be overcome with casual "tactics" (button mashing, ignoring game mechanics, etc.)

>>381657778
This whole game is for fucking babies. Nothing in it is a casual filter

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>>381673747

literally me

>>381677587
then why do people keep dying in it?

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>>381657778

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>>381677748

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>>381657778
just flip it over.

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You know I'm right.

>>381663357
I usually consider mid game stuff casual filter too, as long as its obligatory

I mean it stills weeds out casuals doesn't it?

>>381677702
does this scene have a name?

>>381677818
how the fuck do people fail monkey clock, it's one of the least complicated minigames in the series.

>>381678345
the rhythm, they can't feel it, especially when the purple ones appear.

>>381658230
>weapon degradation system
>casual filter

How the fuck is that a casual filter when you can just not fight enemies? There are like 5 enemies in the game you HAVE to fight to progress, everything else can't keep pace or notice you 5 yards away.

How do you even have casual filters for the most casual game ever created?

>>381658230
if you leave the shrine that makes you a casual

>>381673747
WAIT A MINUTE

>>381678580
>How do you even have casual filters for the most casual game ever created?
Kirby's Epic Yarn?

>>381676527
https://youtu.be/11Ee0lmGgjQ
>defending Minotaur

>>381678612

Do you know what a "filter" is?

>>381678264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FSKTndbwVo

>>381678719
Last I checked, that has a failstate.

I'm not sure what theoretical peak casual would look like, but I'm pretty sure it'd be some mindnumbing "press button get pleasing but meaningless light and sound" thing. Like, take Guitar Hero, move it to smartphone, remove scoring, make the notes suggestions so nobody feels bad if they miss a note, and always give a rating of "perfect" at the end. Then make each song cost 99 cents for a hundred plays.

>>381679103
>Last I checked, that has a failstate.
what.

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remember this shit

>>381679174
/v/ confirmed for casual.

>>381679264
You gotta' admit though, on your first time playing through the game, that dude's a good spike in difficulty.

>>381679383
No because by the time I got to him I was like level 25, I didn't pick the open-everything-key at the start of the game.

>>381668537
It's harder to control because the gamepad is larger.

>>381678719
Never played it, but I'd be willing to bet BotW is more accessible than even Kirby. I mean Kirby at least requires timing, to a degree.

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Any of you guys know any good puzzle games that get the noggin throbbin? I really need a good memory game.

>>381679493
There's no healthbar, you can't die.

A single botw guardian is harder than any boss in the entire series.

>>381679174
Honestly you could probably point to any "first boss" in a soulsborne game and call it a casual filter.

>>381679620
Silent Hill 2

>>381678910
the shrine "filters" casuals from getting the spirit orb if it's too hard for them. this also counts if they give up and leave

>>381679620
Actual puzzle games?
Try Atlantis and Myst.

>>381671873
Any boss counts too.

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>>381679620
Fucking Atlantis 2: Beyond Atlantis, there's no puzzle game harder. You will have to actually decipher ancient Aztec math system for one of the puzzles. Also visual design is gorgeous.

>>381679620
Talos Principle. It's not a memory game though.

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This point in the game in general, not just this one enemy.

>>381667586
>Lightning attack
>Lightning combo
>Lightning combo
>Dodge shit he throws
>Repeat until QTE

>turns controller over

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>>381664315
This guy too. Great reaction image.

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>>381680317
>not just this one enemy
EXACTLY THAT ONE FUCKING ENEMY
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

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the first enemy.

>>381658643
People had a problem with this? Must be people who donat play fps much

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Looking for Baal?

>>381679638
BotW's autosave feature isn't much worse, and the bosses in Epic Yarn seem neat from what I've been reading. Guardians are optional. ALttP Ganon is harder than anything in BotW and he's not even THAT hard

If difficulty is derived by numbers than something has gone wrong. Yeah, enemies in BotW tend to one hit you (before you figure out within 5 hours how to exploit elixirs without even trying) but they're stupid and slow, Guardians included.

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Thanks senpaitachi

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Since most people go to Moscow first they have to face him with no powers and shitty weaponry.

>>381678118
I shit my pants every time. If only it came a month or two later.

>>381679620
Spacechem is one of the hardest puzzle games I've ever played. First game to make me feel dumb.

La-Mulana has pretty fun and insane puzzles too, but you also have to be a fan of metroidvania style games.

>>381681203
You can't be serious, everyone beat lttp when they were like, 6 years old, people today, adults, are complaining that Botw is too hard and you can see people dying hundreds of times.

The single fact that you can DIE already makes botw harder than any Zelda game (where dying was non-existant unless you're egoraptor and have cerebral palsy) except maybe Zelda 2, but then again the only hard part in that game is death mountain cause of the crossroads and a bullshit difficulty spike.

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If you can't get past turbo tunnels you are a casual.

>>381669656
>not drawing the layout of the teleporters on actual paper
Glad this thing went the way of the dinosaur. Its not a good mechanic, its tedious an boring as shit.

>>381680751
Man this game had some cool ideas.

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>>381680181
*blocks your progression*

>>381678118
This is such an amazing experience on your first time