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New Dragon Ball Fighter Z interview!

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>Are there plans to have characters that are different from the line up?
>For the six characters we have shown so far, maybe Majin Boo is unique, but the other characters are similar. Although we want to say who the new characters are we can promise they are very unique and not standard at all. Please look forward to that.

>Does Dragon Ball FighterZ take a character’s power level into account? For example, could Yamcha actually beat Goku in this game?
>We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.

>Does that mean there are some characters with supportive assists that can buff another character or heal a character instead of fighting?
>There aren’t characters that are only specific for assisting, but basically each of the characters have different supporting skills. We can’t go into the details because we can’t reveal the entire roster. We can tell you it isn’t just coming out and dealing attacks and it is very different across the characters.


http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/23/dragon-ball-fighterz-producer-creating-core-fighting-game-character-variety/

OH SHIT. All the other characters are going to have very unique fighting styles and some will even be more geared towards assists and supportive roles within the 3v3 battle system. HYPED
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>characters that are better at assisting
No thanks. I don't want a roster with dead weight in it
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also Taopaipai fags btfo

>Can you tell us one character that definitely won’t be in the game?
>[Laughs] One that defiantly won’t be in the game… we’re not going to have Taopaipai in the game.
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>>381656798
like every fighting game
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>>381656798
fuck off fag, more gameplay variation and unique mechanics is way more welcome than the plain old thing
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>>381656809
Tao always had the problem of having a much better design as a regular person, but having more utility as an ugly cyborg.

That and being jobbed into irrelevancy prior to DBZ.
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>>381656798
>Krilling solar flare loops
>dead weight
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>>381656809
FUCK.
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No Caulifla, no buy. I swear
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>>381656809
Wow, what the fuck?
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switch version
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>>381656809
Its a ruse, he's hella in
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>>381657478
And nothing of value was lost
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>>381656736
Yamcha is going to be the joke character like Dan, cool fuck Yamcha
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>>381656798
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My boy Trunks was basically guaranteed a spot anyway but I'm glad he was confirmed and now I need Gotenks to be confirmed to have my team of Cell/Trunks/Gotenks
It would also be nice to have Hit or Zamasu or Magetta for Super representation
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>>381656736
>power level
How to ruin your fucking game. Fuck powerlevel autists who get triggered that Krillin can beat Goku.
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>>381658807
Wouldn't that contradict their plan of being a competitive fighting game
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>Bad characters have good assists
>Good characters have bad assists.

>No 50/50 or unblocakables on incoming characters

It's everything I wanted from UMvC3 AND I FUCKING LOVE THAT GAME!
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>>381658430
Shut the fuck up. She is literally the only good thing to come out of super
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>>381656736
>weak character could destroy Goku.
why is this a problem? immediately dropped. fuck this game. confirmed blunder
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I haven't played an ArcSys game, do they do floaty keep out characters? I'll be kind of irritated if Piccolo ends up like Dhalsim.
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>>381659076
you're just a homosexual neo /a/ retard from r/anime. continue watching your cartoons made for japanese little girls, queermo
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>>381659317
>I'll be kind of irritated if Piccolo ends up like Dhalsim.
ill be fucking happy if he does, more unique gameplay mechanics the better. the idea of characters having strong assist and support roles is fucking awesome too.
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>>381656798
it makes sense for a Dragon Ball game
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>>381656809
Damn. He would've had the best character intro.
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>>381659510

Not saying the style shouldn't be in the game, but Piccolo is a personal favorite and I've never liked playing Sim type characters. Game footage so far has looked fast as fuck though so that sort of thing might not be viable anyway.
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>>381659062
>No 50/50 or unblocakables on incoming characters
There is apparently a snap back mechanic that does allow for incoming mix ups.
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>>381659317
ArcSys keepaway are more full-screen lockdown focused than just sitting still and making your opponent come to you.
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>>381659885
well in guilty gear, dhalsim style characters are still fast as fuck. closest thing would be axl, i think that would be the best playstyle for him. hes still fast and brutal.
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>>381659950
There are snapbacks but those cost meter just like in Marvel. What sucked was having a character die and then the first thing you have to do with your next one is guard an incoming mixup that the player already winning has a million years to start setting up.
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>>381656736
>It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku.
Game will be garbage.
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>>381659376
>calls me homosexual
>doesnt want this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy5dWkBSzvA

hmmmmmmmmm
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>>381656736
>>Does Dragon Ball FighterZ take a character’s power level into account? For example, could Yamcha actually beat Goku in this game?
>>We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.
So, this is the proof that she don't know what she is talking about.
Too bad for the "easy" Switch port.
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>>381656736 (OP)
>It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku.
bullshit everyone knows The Champ can beat anyone
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>>381656809

First letdown of the game.

>>381656736

I'm 99% sure it's coincidental, but I find pretty curious how this seems to tie with the current Super arc, Since characters are not only being picked by raw power, but also because of the skills they could add to their respective teams (or at least that's what U7 is trying to do).
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>>381659598
It really doesn't. Dragonball is all about waving the biggest dick. There are many situations that could have been solved by a xcom tactical style approach but muh saiyans.

Odd though, Raditz and Nappa were the only fights that really had asymmetrical combat going on. Guess Toriyama found it hard to pull off that sort of choreography.
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Will Legendary Buff Waifu be in?
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>>381661028
nope
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>>381656809
I bet fucking Edgelord Pink Goku got in over him.
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>>381661083
Filthy ningen
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>>381661083
don't forget the purple donutsteel dude
super has shitty as fuck characters
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>>381660084
Jesus, how does that work? That sounds horrifying in theory.
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>>381661276
Time to make the doughnuts
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>>381656736
>>We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.
Fucking dead on arrival, holy shit. Why does every dbz game have to balance based on power levels, it's the most cancerous shit ever. Have fun playing with only 1 viable team.
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>>381661393
such a shame
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>>381661393
Yeah it sounds really stupid. Hopefully she was just saying that so casuals are happy. It would really suck if you can't use Krillin against Goku because you'd get aped by high damage attacks 24/7.
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>>381661393
fuck off casual shitter. having massive variety in mechanics and strategy is fucking godlike.
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>>381656736
I can't wait for based cat to get revealed
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>>381661562

>massive variety in mechanics and strategy
>if you put Yamcha or Krillin on point you're playing the game wrong
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>>381661656
Just wait until they are solar flaring shit up from the sidelines
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>>381658114
Fuck off, a whole 2 people buying it will not justice porting it to a dead console.
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>>381661638
Gene best GoD
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>>381661778
Game has much bigger sales potential on the switch than anywhere else desu.

People like their cartoony games on the nintendos.
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>>381661638
Ah yes another MvC'killer''. We all know what happened to the SFV ''killers'' so dont delude yourself. Nothing can beat Capcom.
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>>381661778
>a dead console
lmao
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>>381661656
>having a great match with your friends or something
>Lineups:
>Gohan/Piccolo/Cell for your friend
>Cell/Krillin/Videl for you
>it's down to the wire
>videl actually is weak as fuck and her only use is a GOAT tier assist.

What then? I hope that the producer meant that some characters who are more bottom tier get the top tier assists, not that their only usefulness relies on their assists, because once they tag in, they're dead weight.
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>>381661656
keep proving how much of a casual retard you are. this is a 3v3 game. this means you get to balance your team and your strategy however you like. this is GODLIKE compared to merely having a 3v3 tag with every character being a boring equal footing character.
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>>381661873
Its called anime, and its not a cartoon
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>>381661638
>spics and nogs are the main demographic for mahvel vs capcom
>spics and nogs love DBZ
>DBZ gets turned into a 3v3 fighter with assists by arcsys and it looks like xrd instead of a mobile game
I hope MvC stays dead
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>>381661886
Capcom shills are too strong sadly.
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>>381661924
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>>381661873
>Game has much bigger sales potential on the switch
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>>381661886
MvC infinite doesn't even have good visuals, and it's only 2 vs 2
it's going to suck and die, and DB FighterZ will take MvC's place at EVO
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>>381661985
Maybe ASW shills should actually play their games rather than do nothing but shitposts 24/7.
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>>381661562
>having characters that are better than others
>not a trash idea
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>>381661778
So why are they making a version for Xbox One then?
Literally double digit sales in Asia.
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>>381661910
Yeah ok, nice come back.

Switch users are the same idiots who believed the Ouya would give them AAA games at an affordable price.
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>>381661990
ye.
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>>381661913
>What then?
what then? that just proves youre shit and you lost. next time choose your strategy and your characters more wisely or practice so you can win with the support + core strategy you seem to be obsessed with. what kind of stupid argument is this?
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>>381661915
>having objectively inferior options makes it more strategic
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>>381661915
I have to agree. If say, Krillin's assist is a Solar Flare, and if used mid-combo is an instant stun, then you could use that to set up for a lvl3 immediately and wipe out 50% of your opponents HP.

It seems like the weak characters will have assists that are extremely useful. And each character is unique, so they must have some viability on the battlefield.
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>>381661886
Like how Pokkén outsold SFV on a dead console?
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>>381661656

Hopefully it's more subdued than that, but I'm alright with some characters being not as good in straight up fights but having good support abilities. Krillin dishing out solar flares and senzu beans from the sidelines is definitely fitting, and I doubt they'd waste the effort on making the character if they're garbage when it's time for him to actually fight anyway.
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>>381662157
Does Pokken still get played?
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>>381662172
Don't forget Destructo disc/kienzan
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>>381662036
>>having characters that are better than others
>every fighting game
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>>381662036
>better than others
clearly you are underage if you think a "support" character is made to be intentionally "worse" than a dps character or something. how pathetic are you?

>>381662123
>having objectively inferior options makes it more strategic
its not objectively inferior, in any other game the team composition with a support will always beat the team composition full of shitters like you who think only DPS matters. keep proving you havent finished puberty retard. its actually incredible how low IQ the reddit faggots on /v/ are.
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>>381662198
It will be when the switch version™ fixes all of the problems
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>>381661915

In the end, we will get another Dr. Doom situation.
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>>381662157
Oh NOW sales matter for Nintendo kiddies lmao.
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>>381662245
have with your shitty meta where only 1 strategy is viable
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>>381662198
Pretty sure they had Pokken at EVO so there has to be at least 2.
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>>381662258
>in any other game the team composition with a support will always beat the team composition full of shitters like you who think only DPS matters.
lmao
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An unbalanced cast where each character has a niche to benefit your team comp in different ways >> homogenized roster where characters are balanced but play more or less the same

If you think otherwise, you're literally a shitter
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>>381660338
Fucking underage, leave this board, it's 18+. DBZ Super posters are the biggest cancer walking on this planet

>Goku lost his best friend, a whole planet got blown up, was nearly dying, turned into a SSJ in the last moment

>DBZ Super some fucciboi looking faggot from a parallel universe saw Vegeta turn into a SSJ, goes back home, "HOL UP CHECK DIS YO UNEED TO JUST GET MAHD BRO "
>Female (SJW) turns into a SSJ after only 1 minute
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>>381662330
Pokken already dropped out of EVO.

Pokken sold a lot because its based on one of the biggest videogame franchises, but it had no lasting power.
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>>381662157
Yeah the Pokemon children bought a Pokemon game. How many of those are hardcore fighting fans now? How many still play? Yeah thought so you dumb bitch. Nobody played it on Dead-U and nobody will play it on Switch.
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>retards trying to theorycraft and figure out how a game will be played before it's even released
this shit happens every fucking time a multiplayer game is released and you're always wrong
loving every laugh
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>>381662354
>An unbalanced cast where each character has a niche to benefit your team comp in different ways >> homogenized roster where characters are balanced but play more or less the same
This.
Before this announcement, we could have all assumed most teams are going to be characters that are just really good on the battlefield, and with maybe a character like Frieza who has an instant juggle assist. Now teams are going to be comprised of a mixture of that and Weak/Strong characters based on assists and team composition.

Game sounds much better now.
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>>381662436
I don't think I've ever seen /v/ right about shit like this, but they are still more accurate than /vp/
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These faggots who are saying "Hurr support means they're intentionally weak" are exactly the type of fucking QUEERS who obsessively pick Hanzo in every game in Overwatch no matter what your or the enemy team's composition are. Holy shit you need to kill yourselves.

Thank God this isn't a team game and I can make control all my characters, or else you'd have these faggots obsessively picking Goku every game no matter what characters you or the enemy has.
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>>381661305
Look up Axl competitive play in GGXrd. Dhalsim is slow, but has a teleport and focuses on close to mid-screen range. Axl doesn't have a teleport, but his moves focus on mid to full screen. Better summary: Dhalsim waits for you to come closer to punish. Axl actively tries to push you as far out as he can.
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>>381662524
>online will be filled with only the most viable team
into the trash it goes
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>>381662015

Man, I want DBFZ to succeed, but MVCI 2v2 with the free tag seems way deeper than UMVC3 and DBFZ 3v3. You should look some good matches before saying that kind of thing.
But nothing excuses the graphics, and if they don't fix some models, even I will wait for the game to be on sale.
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>>381662627
>overwatch
LMAO
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>>381662701
>being this predictable
LMAO go home Hanzo fag
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>>381662401
It still gets regular tournaments retard. The only reason it didn't get to EVO because there were a shit ton of new games this year and it got outbid by fucking Mahvel.
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>>381662771
>overwatch
LMAO
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>>381662352
this is pretty true. well for mmos, mobas etc
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>>381659757
>Cinematic of him riding a falling log into battle
Fuck, that would've been sweet
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>>381662771
>playing Overshit

lmao
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>>381662809
It didnt have many people showing up last year so this year they put it up for a donation drive, but nobody cared enough to show support.

The tournament scene for Pokken is generally tiny.
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>>381662645
Online will probably be filled with people who don't know the meaning of team composition, and just pick their favourite characters.
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>>381662645
>implying that there won't be different teams with equal viability based on play style.

You still have to understand the game. Maybe most assists won't work while blocking, use Piccolo as a Zoner and just keep distance so you always have a chance to block, so your enemy can't assist you out.

Maybe even theirs characters where if their assists aren't that great, but if you use both assists at the same time it can rival characters who have great standalone assists. ie: big bang vs big bang kamehameha
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soon
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>>381662809

EVO has Melee and BlazBlue.
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>>381661924
>its not a cartoon
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>>381662915
to be fair its not like a game of dota where the characters have no backstory

i dont care if mary sues like future trunks or reddit characters like vegeta are OP, i couldnt enjoy playing them because of how lame they were in the tv show
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>>381662391
not defending him or super but how do you explain goten and trunks then?
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>>381662809
You are one dumb motherfucker. It barely had anyone show up in last years EVO. Your gay ass homemade tournaments made up of your 3 friends dont count.
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>>381662627
>Comparing ASSFAGGOTS with a fighting game
Please, nobody wants their fighting games to play like a shitty fucking moba.
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>>381661083
I hope Black makes it in, stay mad. The second they fused into Fusion Zamasu the entire arc went to shit.
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>>381656809
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>>381663194
the good thing is if you want to be a Hanzo shitter who only picks EPIC DPS then you can do that, no one is stopping you because you arent affecting us in this game Hanzo shitter. but you will lose because youre a shitter. have fun getting your world turned inside out without being able to pretend it was your teams fault HANZO FAGGOT
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>>381662354
Having a balanced roster does not mean they all play the same.
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>>381663276
>wanting more goku reskins

its not his character really, i just dont want more than 2 atmost gokus/gohans
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>>381656736
Dragon Ball fags are the fucking worst. I really hate when in a fighting game they make certain characters overpowered because "he's like that in the show!".

If you follow the story of any fighting game, even staples like Street Fighter, it's clear that some characters are many times more powerful than others but everyone has a fighting chance when used because it's a GAME. It's meant to be fun and competitive; the one who plays better should always win, not the one with the better character.

I can't think of any other fighting games than the DBZ ones where they blatantly fucked this idea over in favor of "gotta be just like muh show!". In Budokai stronger characters have many more default ki bars and in Xenoverse and the like all stats are better on strong characters.
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>>381656798
>Roll with Team Satan, Tenshinhan and Krillin
>Tenshinhan and Krillin keep assisting with Kikoho and Solar Flares to stunlock the enemy
>Satan does all the heavy hitting because he's the strongest, obviously
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>>381663147
Heritage: When they had them, their fathers already had managed to reach the SSJ stage. So they sort of passed the ability on and made it easier. This is true for Goku > Gohan > Goten and also for Vegeta > Trunks. This might mean that the base power level of their sons is higher than their.

Generations: The more you go on, the stronger they are. Gohan is stronger than Goku and Vegeta. He gets weak only because he doesn't train enough. Goten and Trunks are even stronger.

Blood purity: It is unclear, but it seems that hybrids are stronger than pure-blood Saiyans. Apparently, hybrids lack the will of combat these have, though. And indeed, Gohan doesn't train as much in peace time.
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>>381663393
This.
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>>381663385
black goku doesn't even fight like goku
the power level thing would also make sense for him and zamasu, since he took strong attacks for black with his immortality but was weaker than him
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>>381663393
its not saying characters will be more useful in a competitive setting. in marvel there are many characters only picked because they have sick assists but suck once its their turn to fight, itll be like that
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>>381663393
Except they're not making certain characters "overpowered". Read the article again, idiot.
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>>381663385
Goku Black has pretty unique moveset after he masters Goku's body and goes Rose though.
It's the non-Rose Black that is a Goku reskin.
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>>381662846
Seriously.
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>>381663651
>It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku

Literally saying that someone comparatively much weaker in the show can't really beat Goku in the game and needs to resort into being in a supporting role.
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>>381663791
Just like MvC you retard, as others told you already.
MvC has characters that have amazing assists but suck as their own characters.
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>>381663393
>Xenoverse
Except in Xenoverse 2 characters like Videl and Raditz have some of the highest natural DPS and are viable choices against some of the lower-top tier characters.
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>all that powerlevel talk
>tfw I'm a Magetta main
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>>381663791
>Literally saying that someone comparatively much weaker in the show can't really beat Goku in the game

THAT'S NOT WHAT "LITERALLY" MEANS
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>>381663997
that doesn't mean shit when everyone picks either hit or goku
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>>381663493
>Goten
>Gohan's son
Bait
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>>381661886
Can't kill what's already dead anon. These aren't the nineties anymore.
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>tfw they can make Whis how they want, since he will be just pretending, like in Xenoverse
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>>381664068
Magetta or Pilaf Machine has to make it in if only to fill in that Sentinel slot.
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Which Brolly are they going to add? Classic male or new Female?
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>>381656736
>There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku
This makes me sad. Catering to MUH POWER LEVEL autists ruins the fun.
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>>381664201
>Magetta colorswap with Pilaf Machine
that'd do it.
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>>381664185
Whis is a huge flamboyant faggot, I liked him until he basically said he gives 0 fucks and has no problems with throwing everyone, Beerus included, under the bus because he won't get erased due to nepotism.
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>>381664231
bio
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>>381663983
>MvC as the golden standard of fighting games

>>381664074
How delusional are you that you're going to deny the quote that says in verbatim that characters who are canonically weaker will not be able to beat stronger characters. Are you a superfag?
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Better question is, who will be the Wolverine character?
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>ruining the fucking game, because of powerlevel retards
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>>381664185
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>>381664351
>>MvC as the golden standard of fighting games
UMvC3, SF4 and TTT2 are the pinnacle of fightan.
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>>381664371
Videl, obviously.

or burter
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why are they treating goku like he's disney character levels of sacrosanct
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>>381664371
Hit with his timeskip
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>>381656736
>It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku
>outright stating the cast won't be balanced
There goes the hopes for a good fighting game.
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>>381664482
Because Japan even has a national holiday literally called "Goku Day", which is on the same day as Piccolo Day was in the original DB manga/anime, May 9.
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>>381664371
Only the coolest human who mastered the most devastating attack of all time, Wolf Fang Fist.
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>>381660213
You are casual. Incomming mixups is a part of marvel. Forced neutral reset is just one of many things this game is made for casuals instead of real fighting game fans.
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>>381663493
>Heritage: When they had them, their fathers already had managed to reach the SSJ stage
vegeta fucked bulma without being super.
You are a faggot
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>>381663276
The arc was shit from the beginning my dude
Goku Black had too retarded a backstory to be good in any way
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>>381664673
>my dude
Filthy ningen nigger detected
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>>381664397
>"It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku"
see that statement worried me. what does that mean exacly? WILL krillin and yamcha be made to do noticeably less damage than goku?
And by that logic, shouldn't lakers freeza insta kill on hit?
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>>381664581
yamcha's fighting style is so cool
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>>381663276
>goku with shitty pink hair
>muh different moveset
still a fucking reskin like lucha libre pikachu in pokken
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>>381664819
Goku Black has different outfit than Goku, try harder.
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>people unironically like pink/blue goku reskins
wow you retards managed to impress me
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>>381664575
But all the best and most fun fighting games have fucking terrible balance.
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>>381664962
he's basically a hysterical woman
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>>381664351
THAT'S NOT WHAT "VERBATIM" MEANS

There's no quote saying "Weaker character wont be able to beat Goku". Just that weaker characters are going to be balanced using the 3v3 system.

You're literally retarded. I can only believe that you're going to just reply to me calling me a superfag without any good argument.
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>>381664896
I honestly don't get of you are being honest, don't know what you are saying or just incredibly delusional.
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>>381664962
NINGEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381664729
Permavirgin weeb who has such shit taste in anime that even the weeb girls won't go near him detected
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>>381656809
why was she so defiant bros
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>>381664837
go back to /a/, christ
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>>381664810
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>>381664962
autism
thats why many people like him since they can relater to him with his autism
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>>381664962
because he knows whats up
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>>381665049
Mad projecting nigger detected.
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>>381664873
So does Pikachu Libre.
It's still a Pikachu.
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>justin wond would rather play MvCI to DBFZ
lmao
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>>381664962
Because they're disgusting
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>>381664793
>WILL krillin and yamcha be made to do noticeably less damage than goku
I hope not. That's how every Tenkaichi game was. Xenoverse 2 changed it, but in Tenkaichi games power levels determined damage output.
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>>381656736
>It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku.
oh boy DB lore fags ruining it already. who gives a shit wtf
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>>381665182
small dick whiteboi detected
go prep the bull
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>>381664837
What the fuck is this? Why are their 2 Goku's both with retarded hair? What the hell went wrong with DBZ?
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>>381665151
>not liking pikachu libre
leave
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>>381665131
Triggered weeb detected
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>>381665040
I honestly don't think you play fighting games.
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>>381664962
He went to a history museum, saw some prehistoric dudes be a little rowdy and decided all NINGEN were bad. Then he happens to meet that fucking dumbass Goku be his usual dipshit asshole self and that only fortified Zamasu's beliefs that he should wipe out all sapient mortals before they ruin shit any further.
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>>381665276
>liking reskins
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>>381665206
>tfw DB lore fag
>pissed because games should just be fun
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>>381665034
>Haha you used a word wrong
The actual quote is "It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku"

You're retarded if you think that means anything other than canonically weak characters won't be able to beat canonically stronger ones and will be forced to play as support characters and not fighting directly.
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>>381664312
He said that, but he's still going out of his way to train them and give them advice.
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>>381665250
>What the hell went wrong with DBZ?

Nothing. It's literally not Dragon Ball Z. It's Dragon Ball Super.
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>Every team online will be Super SSJSS Goku, Beerus and Whis
>fags will still insist that it's balanced
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>>381665318
I will not call myself an expert, but anyone can realize that balance is always important simply because fighting games should give you the option to play with who you want and being able to use it decently.
Devs always try to do it as best as they can with different playstyles, these guys aren't even trying right now.
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>>381664630
>Incomming mixups is a part of marvel.

Good thing this isn't Marvel.
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>>381665404
Because he has to as it's his job and Zeno would flay him if he didn't. He's still a huge sellout faggot.
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>>381665548
>hanzo shitter still giving his hot opinions
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>2017
>People STILL get hyped for another yearly release of a dbz fighting game

I just dont get it.
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>>381664793
>WILL krillin and yamcha be made to do noticeably less damage than goku?

Is this a bad thing? We don't even know their fighting styles yet or how their assists work. While in a 1v1 one match, we can assume a Krillin playing would have a disadvantage against a Goku player, but this is a 3v3 fighter. Even when it's Krillin/Yamcha/TIen vs Goku/Buu/Vegeta it can still be balanced with assists and other character gimmicks.

And even if weaker characters do less damage or aren't as good at fighting, it's not impossible to win. Your normals would need to do 0 damage for it to be impossible.
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>>381665670
I don't even play Overmeme you assmad lorefag. Stay triggered knowing that I'll be right though.
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>>381665548
>>fags will still insist that it's balanced

MvC2 had the same problems but people still played it for a decade or so.
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>actually trying to copy MvC
>remember I don't even like MvC
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>>381665804
enjoy getting stomped online because you think picking 3 hanzos is super epic strong. cant blame other players this time though, queer.
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>>381665738
Different developer, it supposedly has a greater combat depth.
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>>381665738
>Why are people excited for a series they like
HMMMMMMM
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so this shit is going be like pokemon where you only will see 1 single team with a slightly different 3rd character in tournaments
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>>381665759
>Is this a bad thing?
Yes, we already played Extreme Butoden, where SSGSS Goku, SSG Goku, and SSJ Goku were viable.
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>>381665865
Still don't play Overmeme.
Keep on projecting.
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>but the other characters are similar.

Dropped
Who am I kidding who gives a shit about DB in fucking 2017
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>>381665250

Pink Goku is Zamasu, a kai in training who came to hate mortals after meeting Goku, since Goku is retarded and way more strong than the kais, so he asked Shen Long to swap bodies with Goku, since Goku is strong as fuck and his image is what is wrong with the mortals. His hair is pink because of his kai soul, or because he is a swag motherfucker and choose pink.
Blue Goku is Goku as a Super Sayan beyond the regular Super Sayan God with red hair from the movie.
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>>381665819
this. The marvel crowd will probably be pissed if the game is too balanced.
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>>381665738
>Sees thread
>Sees that it's a DBZ game
>Autism kicks in and forces you to enter thread
>Shitposts

How bored are you?
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>>381666006
I want to cum inside that cunny
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>>381665649
What? No it's not. He's an attendant to the GoD but he has no obligation to train Goku for the tourney, or convince the other fighters to go along with the Frieza idea.
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>>381665981
>Dropped

You must not like DBZ then since a bulk of the characters trained with the same people and fight in almost the same way except for a few color coded special attacks.
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>>381665981
>who gives a shit about DB in fucking 2017
Oh no. What do you weebs have to say to this man?
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>>381665548
>Every team online will be Super SSJSS Goku, Beerus and Whis
I doubt it. Team comp would be ass. If a team doesn't have one weak character, it probably has shitty assists.
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Did the producer just confirm multipleassist types per character? That would seriously put it as the real Mahvel successor.
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>>381665919
This. Extreme Butoden had characters balanced based on power levels and literally categorized them into tiers. Do people actually want more of this? Characters like Krillin or Nappa get killed in 3 combos by SSG Goku.
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>>381659317
hehehehehe he doesn't know...
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>>381665919
You're honestly just jumping to extremes without paying attention to what the producer is trying to say.

They're actually trying to balance this game. It's an unconventional balance, but it might work out.
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transformations distinguished only by color was a really bad idea for a black and white manga
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Autistic roster incoming

21 Characters separated into 3 classes. You might only take 2 of the same class into combat. That a character is primary from one class doesn't preclude him from having abilities pertaining to other classes, i.e. Krillin has some Special tricks.

>Powerhouse, top tier close combat warriors
Goku, Cell, YA Gohan, Kid Buu, Yamcha, Trunks, Dabura
>Skirmishers, ranged glasscannons with high mobility
Freiza, Vegeta, Tien, Krillin, Android 16, Bardock, Whis[not really trying ala Slayer]
>Special, the ones who pull tricky shit
Piccolo, Videl, Ginyu, Babidi, Fat Buu, Master Roshi, Hit?

plus three possible final bosses depending on route/score, Beerus, Broly or Zamasu. Each one is both absolute top tier in their respective class and highly competent in the other fields
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>>381665548
I don't think Whis will be playable
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>>381666327
The yellow hair made it so they could spend less money on ink since they didn't have to color in any of the Saiyans' hair anymore.
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>>381666239
>being able to do this with piccolo's hellzone grenades
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>>381666049
I wana see her lay and egg and fuck 3 dogs again.
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>>381665919
>>381666229
I swear they put out a patch where you could unlock everyone at level 7
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>>381666327
>black and white manga
SSJB uses those undertones that are like really small dots with spaces between to make it look gray.

SSJG uses that same thing, but adds white highlight and a black shade to the hair to make it pop out more.

It's really hard to be confused by them.
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>>381666543
>again

what
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>>381666370
>Powerhouse, top tier close combat warriors
>Yamcha

autistic is right.
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>>381666370
>Goku
>most average character
>top tier power house

>Yamcha
>making it into the game with literally 0 manga material to pull from
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>>381666666
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>>381666736
>>Goku
>>most average character
Are you retarded?
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>>381666895
just how fucking new are you? jesus christ
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>>381666239
this could be a good moveset for or wiss.
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>>381666943
In the game that's precisely how they designed him in their own words
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>>381661990
Lego City Undercover sold better on Switch than any other platform. Switch is starved for games, it'd absolutely sell well on it. Don't be a mouth breather who's too stupid to put the pieces together.
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>>381666641
>It's really hard to be confused by them.
admittedly it really would be in this scene because goku points how vegeta's switching between them, but at a casual glance i don't think i'd notice those shades of grey were appreciably different. or i'd just chalk up the lighter shade to the aura illuminating vegeta

i liked it better when the saiyan forms were distinguished by stuff like buffness, hair spikiness and aura electricity, or hair length. i understand ssg and ssb originated in movies where color isn't an issue, so i guess it makes sense
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>>381666980
not his fault that only /v/ is shitty enough to not have dubs
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>381656736
>Although we want to say who the new characters are we can promise they are very unique and not standard at all. Please look forward to that.

Pride Troopers DLC when?
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>>381667291
Muscle is fine to an extent but Z got way too fucking reliant on it from the Cell Saga onward. The nightmarish USS forms, Gohan the ripped 11 year old, everybody was just a goddamn mountain of flesh, and Buu Saga continued the trend with SSJ3 and Gotenks the ripped 8 year old. I like both Gohan's ultimate form and SSG because they're very simple, Toriyama taking a step back and going "you don't need a ridiculous appearance to give off a sense of power".
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>>381667419
I just want the buff ayy lmao
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>>381667291
now post the part were Toriyama makes sure vegeta loses that fight and goku steps in to save the day for the umpteenth time. And then after that he gets the privilege of watching goku fuck bulma. Then he is diagnosed with cancer.
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>>381660251
This makes me cast a little doubt on it to be honest.
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>>381664837
Lazy animation has ruined the Dragon Ball franchise. The Trailer for the new FighterZ game is 100% time better than the entire DBS series. Fuck you Toie and Toriyama for shitting out this garbage cash grab.
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>>381667264
>Game for children sells well on a platform for children and manchildren
Who would have thunk.
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>>381661886
t.combofiend
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>>381667750
That actually doesn't necessarily happen this arc, Vegeta beats up Black, Goku tries to seal Zamasu away, it fails and then they fuse

But then Goku manages to fight the fusion equally somehow
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>>381667750
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>>381660213
>There are snapbacks but those cost meter just like in Marvel.
So far it doesn't.
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>>381667750
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>>381668170
>But then Goku manages to fight the fusion equally somehow
>>381668331
Every.Fucking.Time
what the hell is japans beef with vegeta and just underdogs in general?
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>>381668331
>the heal
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>>381667750
i don't have such a thing, please accept this instead
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>>381668331
Why do they always treat Vegeta like shit? A lot of other characters have an extra technique to make them even stronger but not Vegeta.

Trunks - His god sword
Goku - Kaioken
Gohan - Mystic
Freeza - His meditation shit let him be perma transformed
Androids - Suddenly just as strong as SSB without using their full strength. This hasnt been explained yet
Vegeta - Fucking nothing. He is barebones.
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>>381656809
>defiantly
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>>381661393
Yamcha will still be top tier anyway.
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>>381666327
>>381666641
SSJ hair is actually just colored white, with SSB being gray
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>>381668823
Majin
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>>381668823
didn't gohan lose mystic?
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>>381664962
Literally pic related but you know swap out nigger for ningen and whatnot.
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>>381668805

Fuck yeah Gohan, king of the cucks.
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>>381669143
he got it back for the ToP
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>>381668970
>Majin
I seriously want this in. As a buff or separate I don't care. I NEED that self destruct super.
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>>381667419
Who's Cyber-Bong? He looks cool.
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>>381669143
Piccolo helped him get it back
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>>381656736
OKAY BUT WHAT ABOUT KI BLAST BUTTON MASHING?
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>>381668970
I wish he would use it again. That was the coolest vegeta has ever been.
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>>381663393
nice blog post. if only you put this much effort into your life, you wouldn't be arguing about video games on the Internet
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>>381661393
Yeah man what the fuck? This killed my hype faster than anything else they could have possibly said.
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>>381669185
Some dumb ass who almost abandoned his entire universe to being erased so he could save a fucking cat.
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>>381669185
cant remember his name, it's based on Cassarole, though.
i think it starts with a k?
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My friend and I basically anticipated this while talking about the game already; we expected Krillin to be more of a support character since otherwise he doesn't have a lot to offer gameplay-wise. Solar Flare, Senzu Beans, Destructo Disc assist, designed to be hard to catch when he's actually fighting since he's shorter than most of the cast (I think he's even a bit shorter than Cell Saga Gohan).
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You are ALL fucking retarded.

The game will not have Krillin or Yamcha or any other fan-wank meme character like Tao Pai Pai in the game. Arcsys purposely chose STRONG characters for this game so it will kinda fit in the canon, so expect main arc/movie villains and post Buu Saga good guys from now on.
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>>381661393
fucking this
meta will literally be goku, vegeta and freeza
if you choose anyone else you lose automatically
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>>381661393
>>381669327
She is not from Arcsys, she is a fucking Producer from Bandai.
She don't know what she is talking about, she even contradicted herself on this subject with other interviews.
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>>381669529
But Golden Freeza is in the game and he is the strongest character in Super right now. Like the powergap between him and Cell and all the others is massive. This means Freeza is top tier will be picked 99% of the time.
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Game should've gone for a Namek-saga vibe.

You still get all of the alien motifs and the super saiyan bullshit but its not over-the-top to the point where a bunch of characters need to be turned into jokes.
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>>381669205
What do you mean? If you press the special button once you fire one Ki blast, if you mash it you fire a bunch more but not an infinite amount, and you can block or deflect them into the background.
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>>381669638
The power gap is big, but every sane person would choose Cell over Krillin or Yamcha just for the sake of fan service.
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>>381669797
>Namek-saga
No thanks, worst saga.
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>>381669609
Well I sure as shit hope so.
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>>381669940
All of DBZ is shit, faggot.
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>>381670012

All of Dragon Ball is shit.
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>tfw my favorite fights tend not to be the world-ending battles but instead the battles between characters we know aren't on top of the world.
Piccolo vs. 17 and Cell vs. 16 are my favorites. Tien attacking semi-perfect cell is also good.
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>>381669940
Buu Saga was much much worse. So many dumb transformations and fusion cancer. Fusions were a terrible idea. Like god damn it would have been fine if it ended with Vegetas sacrifice but no they kept fucking going. Every time a new fighter came in Buu ate him and fused AGAIN. Seriously if you liked that shit you are a fucking faggot.
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>>381669797
>Game should've gone for a Namek-saga vibe.
Fuck no. If anything the Namek saga is one of the most overrepresented sagas in terms of games. Fuck that.
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>>381670079
Everything with Dragons is shit
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>>381669590
>meta will literally be goku
What's up with this meme? Goku is the most average character in the game and he wasn't even the best in the demo, Frieza and Gohan had better asists, and Gohan and Cell had better moveset and damage.
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I forget what does the Z-fighters do daily? Live off of Capsule Corp. handout? Mooch on Mr. Satan's money?
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>>381670226
You are right there. Most tend to deal with namek for the longest, probably because Namek is super fucking long and has a lot of unique fighters in it.
>Zarbon
>Dodoria
>Vegeta
>Krillin
>Gohan
>Goku
>Nail
>Piccolo
>Entire Ginyu force
>Frieza and his forms
Lots to cover there
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>>381670216
>Seriously if you liked that shit you are a fucking faggot.
That's why Fusion Reborn >> Buu Saga. It picks up a little after Buu saga starts going to shit and basically makes it 100% better.
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>>381670142
>Piccolo vs. 17
My nigga
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>>381670216
The Buu saga had absolutly retarded moments and the whole "Buu crisis" was entirely avoidable but it still had interesting moments like the one you mentioned.

Namek Saga had fucking nothing.
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>>381670342
krillin's a cop
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>>381670363
>has a lot of unique fighters in i

Which is another thing, the fighters look unique but they fight the same for the most part except for maybe
>this guy transforms
or
>this guy has one special move that looks kinda weird and isn't a beam
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>>381670440

>Namek saga had nothing

Yeah sure, as if it didn't have several of the most iconic moments in the franchise.
>>
As long as this game has a neat roster like Super DBZ did with cool little surprise characters like Chichi and King Piccolo I'll be fine with it.
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>>381670342
Piccolo makes rent as a babysitter.
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>disliking namek

What the hell? I loved seeing Vegeta taking down Freezas goons. It made it exciting because sometimes he was not strong enough and got his ass almost killed so it kept it interesting. And when Goku finally arrived, holy shit so much hype. I fucking hated Cell saga though.
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>>381670342
Goku is a radish(Raditz) farmer.
Gohan is an intern at a college or some shit.
Krillin is a cop.
Vegeta has a rich wife.
Piccolo meditates at Dende's Lookout.
Trunks has foursomes with himself.
Tien lives in the mountains with Chaozu, and he used to live with Launch.
Yamcha lives in an apartment with Puar and does yamcha shit.
>>
Would you like Goku revisit all the locations and people on his childhood adventures?
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>>381670440
the namek saga had the Ginyu force making it automatically great
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>>381670627
>because sometimes he was not strong enough
And then literally every time he got a kill he was much stronger than his enemy due to zenkais left and right.
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That applies to everyone in the whole series.

It's not like anything the characters do that isn't a ki blast or magic matters.

Actual physical attacks stopped mattering after Piccolo Jr.
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>>381670342
Well we know that 17 is a park ranger, not sure about 18 she might just be a stay at home mom. Dunno how much money Piccolo needs considering he doesn't have a house to upkeep and his species can live off water alone.
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>>381670575
>Yeah sure, as if it didn't have several of the most iconic moments in the franchise.

Depends on what we're actually referring to when we talk about the Namek Saga. Namek, Ginyu, and Frieza sagas are separate and apart of the overall Namek arc.
>>
Are the Android episodes and Cell episodes all considered the ''Cell Saga''? Because I loved the future trunk and Vegeta going SSJ episodes but when Cell arrived it all got boring.
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>>381656736
>>Does Dragon Ball FighterZ take a character’s power level into account? For example, could Yamcha actually beat Goku in this game?
>>We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.
Why is it that DBZ fans always throw autistic rages over this type of shit? It's a fighting game. Fighting games need balance.

No DC fanboys are bitching about the fact that Flash isn't a hard counter to every other character to the games he's in and marvel fags aren't bitchy because Hulk and Dr. Strange can be defeated, yet if you have a game where Mr. Satan can body Vegeta, DBZfags lose their godamn minds.
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>>381670627
Nah Namek was fun overall, but it's just been done to fucking death.
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>>381670748
>Actual physical attacks stopped mattering after Piccolo Jr.
>Recoome
>Burter
>17
>13
>Broly
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>>381670750

Does the Namek, Ginyu and Frieza arcs all happen in one day in universe?
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>>381670627

>hated the Cell Saga
>not liking Cell being a horror villain and sucking people up through a straw
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>>381670808
first form cell was awesome
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>>381668823
Vegeta isn't treated as shit. It was simply a matter of Goku's workaround for SSJB's energy drain being more effective against Merged Zamasu than Vegeta's just like how Vegeta's was more effective against Black.
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>>381670873

>Broly
>13
>canon

Also none of the guys you listed were major villains.
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>>381670808
I thought the stuff up until Cell was the "Android Saga."

Also that entire story went through some development hell. Originally Gero and 19 were supposed to be the main villains, but the editors hated them so new villains had to be made. Thus, they made 16, 17, and 18 to be more interesting, but the editors hated them too. So because of this, they made cell, and higher ups disliked imperfect cell because he was gross, so they hurried his transformations.

This is pretty evident by the fact that Gero is really strong one chapter but becomes nothing a while later, the fact that the androids didn't do much but beat people up, and that semi-perfect cell lasted like, 2 minutes.
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>>381671023
Broly not being canon literally does not matter. Dude will get in regardless.
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>>381670784

All of the shit that happens on Namek is the namek arc, let's not make it complicated.
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>>381670891
Nah, I think it's a few days. Like a week or something.
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>>381671023
>brings up canon in DBZ
>back pedals m-muh major villains!
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I like Brolly. Fight me.
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>>381671051

Yeah, executive meddling the arc.
Though to be hones 19 and 20 were pretty damn lame.

I wish they would have stayed with Cell's first form though.
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>>381671116
No we'll get his new female counterpart they're pushing. We won't get Raditz, Nappa, or Bardok. We'll get the U6 crew of Cabba, Kale, Colifla

Which suchs because aside from Colifla I hate all of their designs and also because NO. FUCKING. TALES.
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>>381671219

Me too but he's missing a great ultimate move. Needs more oomph
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>>381671195

Am I wrong or not?

If not then what are you arguing for.
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>>381671125
>All of the shit that happens on Namek is the namek arc
Totally. But not the Namek Saga.

Either way, I agree a lot of interesting things happened on Namek, but I personally see no need in returning to it in the form of a video game.
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>>381671219
Broly looks cool and fights cool, but his character is ass.
It's a shame because dbz villains tend to have really fun personalities
>Frieza is sadistic, spoiled, and short tempered
>Cell goes from calculating monster to a pride arrogant prick because of his endless success
>Buu is a child who doesn't know any better, and slowly learns over time
But Broly has nothing. I like him being in games because he looks cool, and fights cool. But whether or not he is canon is kind of worthless because he never does anything interesting.
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>>381671361
You are wrong.

>physical attacks stopped mattering
>yet they have killed or stopped villains
>m-muh major villains
Proven wrong, and started back pedaling.
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>>381671325
it'll be a big eraser cannon called the super eraser cannon
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>>381671270
>Not wanting Gero in and for him to have drain moves and be counter and punish heavy with some good command throws.
Literally my perfect character and he'll never be in a game and no one will ever have a play style like that.
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>>381670216
>>381670368
>>381670440
>they didn't realize that the Buu Saga was dumb on purpose
Toriyama literally fucked his "Z" fanbase who wanted a serious story with dumb power level, that's why Mystic Gohan, SSJ3, Fusion and Potara are useless.
Buu Saga is more like Dragon Ball than anything we got between the arrival of Raditz and the end of Cell. At the time, Toriyama finally obtained the right to end his manga after years of unwanted works, so he wanted to go back on what was Dragon Ball: fights, jokes and no sense.
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>>381671383

To be honest, Dragon Ball is so huge now, I do think they need to start making games Saga by Saga.

It's really the only way to do any sort of Justice to them.
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>>381671319
That stuff is too new for DBF. I bet the Super content will be up to Black and maybe just a bit beyond, but anything else is gonna be saved for DBF2/XV3.
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I want a one off manga based off Injustice, were Goku goes full apeshit dictator and Vegeta has to stop him.
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>>381671219
Why should I my /bro/?
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>>381671439

Physical attacks have always killed weak characters, but never major villains.
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>>381670635
>Yamcha lives in an apartment with Puar and does yamcha shit.
Like spend his time shit posting on the internet, fumbling around with random trash, waiting for his "friends" to call, and crying himself to sleep.
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At least we all can agree the Super Saiyan Bardock is the dumbest shit ever.
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>>381668630
Vegeta is a literal genocider who will go to hell
Any punishing is too little
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I always liked the Big Guy Big Hits characters like Nappa, Recoome and Broly. Nappa was cooler than Recoome though
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>>381671659

You know some autist in this fucking thread is going to love it.
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>>381671319
>We'll get the U6 crew of Cabba, Kale, Colifla
You are fucking stupid.
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>>381671414
>but his character is ass
Disagree. His character was great in the first movie. He was the first pure psychotic character who only cared about destruction, a complete change of pace.
>inb4 m-muh kakrot
Mind-control Broly is the one that can't stand Goku, LSSJ Broly doesn't care about Goku at all; and he's the popular one.
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>>381671659
>Its been almost a decade since that movie
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>>381671325
I don't think you can get much more "oomph" than the attack he used at the end of his second movie.
>>381671414
His character is only ass past the first movie where they make him a blithering retard. He certainly had a lot more going for him than the other movie villains in that regard with him being an actual sadistic psychopath rather than just an evil asshole like most of the other villains. Only one that really tops him is Wheelo but then again World's Strongest blows every other movie out of the water in most regards.
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>>381671589
a fellow /bro/ly?

welcome my friend
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>>381671736
>He was the first pure psychotic character who only cared about destruction, a complete change of pace.


Are you stupid?

Every fucking villain is homicidal and psychotic.

Just because Broly has the least amount of substance to him you find it unique?
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>>381671219
I'm ambivalent on him as a character but his design is great and he is 100% guaranteed to be the most fun character in the game.

Super armor on EVERYTHING, a command grab or two, massive normals, and his damage is MAXIMUM. He'll basically be my stand-in for Hulk who I mained the fuck out of in Marvel 3. Now I hope Piccolo is a Dormammu-style keepaway character and 16 is in as a Sentinel-like.
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>>381671659
It was stupid, but I like his role in DBH and XV2, and if it weren't for that special Bardock wouldn't have this cool story he does now.

Base Bardock best Bardock
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>>381670814
DBZ has a very vocal and autistic fanbase that's centered around the time honored (and irrelevant) powerlevel meme.

And while Injustice has the "power pill" explanation (which doesn't account for Flash not one-shotting everyone) DBZ could easily use the "holding back" excuse that's so prevalent in the show or any number of other things.

If there's a story mode to this, I hope it's some alternate tales stuff and not the usual tired old retelling of the main story so at least we may see some interesting things on that side for once.
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>>381668331
I will never forgive them after Goku stole Vageta's Frieza kill. Vageta should have been the one to kill Gold Frieza by all rights. That was HIS kill. He deserved to be the one to deal the final blow.

But instead they had to asspull to make Goku the hero AGAIN. Fucking hell. Dragon Ball is trash now.
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>>381671659
It only made sense in Xenoverse because they mentioned they kept feeding him power that he normally wouldn't have.
Even then him going SSJ3 is really forced.
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>>381671502
>Toriyama finally obtained the right to end his manga after years of unwanted works,
This meme needs to fucking end. There isn't a single interview where AT says, in plain text, that he wanted to end DBZ at any specific time. Throughout it's production there were many point where it could have ended, but each and every time he saw how popular shit was getting and came back to it.

He even came back and worked on fucking DBGT of all things.

>on what was Dragon Ball: fights, jokes and no sense.
It had literally always been that.
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If Broly were to be in the game, it'd be cool if legendary super saiyan was a 5 bar powerup but permanent. Faster dash, unga normals, powered up special moves, access to new super and command grab, etc. Pure rushdown anchor.
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>>381671868
>Piccolo is a Dormammu-style keepaway character
>not wanting Piccolo to be unga Super Skrull with a projectile

>>381671942
A full on what if story with Xrd's presentation would finally dethrone Budokai 1's story presentation as being one of the best.
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>>381671319
The game was greenlit at least a year ago, man. When they decided the roster they probably had just introduced Goku Black. Even then they've said Golden Frieza is in the game because the form is from a movie with the Z subtitle. Super will be at a minimum at launch and will be added later.

In early 2019 they will release SUPER Dragonball Fighter Z and they will add 4 Super-only characters in that version.
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>>381671667
who did he genocide, a bunch of insects? Boo fucking who.
And it's not like he didn't help fight for the earths sake on multiple occasions saving who knows how many lives.
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>>381671713
>There's no way they would put characters they're trying to push from a new series they're trying to push into a game for marketing purposes and as a way to add some women to the game since Z had none so they can better draw in the waifu crowd for neetbux
ok
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>>381671838
>Every fucking villain is psychotic
Wrong.
King Piccolo is evil because he was Kami's evil purged from him in physical form but he is far from psychotic. He wants to rule, not destroy.
Vegeta being raised poorly is an understatement and it's all he knew.
Frieza was a galactic overlord that ruled with fear. Are you going to tell me every ruler in history was a psycho? The people he genocided were nothing more than ants in his eyes and was just him going through the motions.
Buu's just evil incarnate given a physical form. His fat form simply didn't know any better and Super and Kid Buu are the only others that could be counted as psychotic.
Try again, antibrolyfag.
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>>381671701
this. I hope one of them appears as the designated grappler of the game.
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>>381672137
i'd buy it because i want caulifla to rub her feet on my penis
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>>381672137
see >>381672050
XV2 literally had to rush Black in for launch because he wasn't in the plans at first. U6 won't make it for the base roster at all for the game's launch.
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>>381671838
>Every fucking villain is homicidal and psychotic
Every other villain has noticeable emotions. Broly never cried like Vegeta, begged for mercy like Raditz, took shit from superiors like Nappa, had the attitude of an uncontrollable little girl like Frieza, never got scared shitless like Cell.
Broly was the only one before Kid Buu who only cared about harming his enemies and laughed at that fact, no other villain was as hell bent as he was. That's painfully obvious.

>least amount of substance
His character is easy to follow, not every villain needs to fall back on themselves and get scared when they realized they fucked up like all of Namek villains and henchmen, or every "evil" Saiyan.

Even Kid Buu and Janemba got scared when Goku/Gogeta started to hit them with the instakill bombs. Broly is the only villain aside from Hatchiyack who never caved.
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>>381672045
I'd prefer he be a cross between Dormammu, Marvel 2 Dhalsim, and SFV Dhalsim. Maybe a bit of Guilty Gear's Venom with Hellzone Grenade as somebody in this thread suggested.

I like zoners that have to think about their placement and can just FILL the screen, but only if the player has good multi-tasking. Piccolo could easily be that kind of character, but replace some of Dormammu's projectile variety with stretchy limbs. If he has a stretchy arm anti-air command grab, he's on my team no matter what.

Basically I just want Broly/Piccolo/16 to be my Hulk/Dormammu/Sentinel team, although Piccolo & 16 are awesome characters in general.
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>>381672095
>who did he genocide, a bunch of insects? Boo fucking who.
And even that was filler.
He did kill some Namekians if I remember correctly. He also blew that stadium the fuck out, and even though they were wished back, I don't think the laws of who goes to hell give a shit about that.
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>>381672095
>And it's not like he didn't help fight for the earths sake

He never fought for the Earth's sake. No saiyan fight's for any other reason than to fight.

Goku's continued reckless and irrational behavior supports this.

People seem to forget, but unlike Goku, Gohan never loved to fight. Most of his childhood was watching his family and friends die in horrible ways, why would he like fighting? That's one piece of characterization that I feel Toriyama did right.
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Captain Ginyu with the rest of the Ginyu Force hard-coded into his moveset when?
>Intros and Victory poses with the entire force (including when you change bodies with your opponent)
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I hope 16 (If he's in) is closer to someone like potemkin or tager. I dunno how much source material of 16 fighting there is though.
Also, there's the problem of his self destruct as a move, but I think I figured out how you could balance it. If it did damage according to how much health you have left, that could work. That way you wouldn't just self destruct at 1% and take off 70% of theirs. It'd be a metered command grab too so that factors in, and I think a cap on how much hp you can lose using it / damage you can deal using with it should be necessary. But this is a 3v3 fighter so maybe not.
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Do you think Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist will be one input, or will you have to input the whole thing manually?
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if Ginyu is playable will he have Body Change
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>>381659757
Oh shit you are right.
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>>381672050
This which is unfortunate because Super actually has some pretty cool characters like Hit and Zamasu that would be great in a fighter let alone what the tournament that's about to start today will bring.
And then if ArcSys is ArcSys we'll constantly get new characters as expensive DLC or a new version relitivly frequently like they always do, but it's only bad when Street Fighter pulls this shit.

>>381672045
It would be great to see a Raditz story where he ends up surpassing Vegeta in power and goes SSJ only to get his shit slapped effortlessly by someone like Roshi or for Yamcha to lose at everything and then go back to baseball again and be comfortable with it and have everyone cheer him on or for Cell to become the most retarded deviantart-tier mary sue by absorbing everyone.
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>>381672339
This would sadly not be possible. They'd need to model the other 4 members of the Ginyu Force and shade every frame of animation involving them.

Even Body Change might not be something we get, as then they'd need to animate and shade every frame of EVERY CHARACTER doing Ginyu's poses.

As fantastic as the visuals are, they stop stuff like that from being viable unless they were to be given a lot more time and money. Maybe if the game is a big success characters with more complex ideas like that could be DLC or in a later version.
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>>381672445
>16
>not broken
>Start mach and rocket punch zone tech
>chip off like 10% health
>use krillin/tien assist of solar flare for stun
>Self Destruct at 100% health
>insta win
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>>381659062
Why is zero black?
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>>381672482
Probably would just swap your HP.
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>>381672461
Simplified rekkas. The initial motion then simple button press (with maybe a direction).
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>>381672445
He did a surprising amount in his one fight with Cell.
>charging shoulders
>rocket punches
>body slams
>fucking hell's flash
Just supplement it with some more wrestling moves and we're golden.
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Should Fusions be individual characters or should they be a special assist command? I don't think they'll want to make Goten and Kid Trunks separate characters when their move potential is so low.
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>>381672657
>Just supplement it with some more wrestling moves and we're golden.
Save that for Broly. 16 could still get a command grab though, but Broly should get the hit grab wrestle moves.
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>>381672786
They will be individual characters or else they'll be useless.
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>>381672786
Separate characters is the way to go. But I don't think they'll do fusions outside Gotenks and maybe Vegito.
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>>381672657
>Stage destruction animation with Hell's Flash
Please yes
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>>381672950
>The regular throw to the ground is his command grab
>metered follow up for hell flash
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Beerus hakai finisher when?
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>>381659598
>it's a feature
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>>381672657
>>381672794
Fuck, I really want to play both of them. 18 is a lock and 17 is probably more likely but dammit I still really hope 16 gets a spot. I'd buy him if he was DLC too, for sure.
>>381672786
Gotenks will be a normal character. Better potential than Kid Trunks or Goten by a mile and pretty popular. If Vegetto WAS in, he'd be done by doing some sort of Level 7 input with Goku & Vegeta still on your team, or maybe as a standalone in SSJB so you could cover that form in the game.
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>>381659076
>Mary Sue
>good
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>>381663461
>kikoho
alriight thats fine
>solar flare instead of kienzan
come on mate, at least be consistent
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>>381664185

I pray to Christ that Super garbage stays out of my DBZ game.
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>>381672794
>Broly
>wrestling moves
The closest thing to a wrestling move that dude has done is a bridge on kid trunks and clotheslines on literally everyone.
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>>381673137
golden freeza is already in the game
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>>381673134
Solar flare would be a better assist move.
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>>381673137

>Frieza can go Golden form

Too late for that, bub
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>>381673137
>Beerus and Whis
>from super
>not from the movie that revived the Dragonball franchise and got Toriyama interested in it again
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>>381673137
I can't wait for you to literally shit your pants when Black/Zamasu gets in like the autist you are.
>>381673215
>b-b-but muh Z in the movie title
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>>381673197
And don't forget the face grab n' smash. Nigga made that into his own thing. Haven't seen another villain do it yet.
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>>381673215

Golden Freeza existed before Super, why does everyone pretend this isn't the case?
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>>381673215
Golden Freeza is from a Dragon Ball Z movie.
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any one else hate golden freiza at first but then start to like him
took a long time but I finally think it doesn't look like trash
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>>381673382

I still think it looks trash, I also hate it because it retroactively makes it so we will never see his other form ever again.
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>>381672029
>This meme needs to fucking end.
>Throughout it's production there were many point where it could have ended
I'm not saying he wanted to end it at a specific point like a lot of people claimed.
I'm saying that Dragon Ball was not supposed to be this long and at some point, it was not a pleasure for Toriyama to work on it, that's a fact.

>each and every time he saw how popular shit was getting and came back to it.
>he
Yeah, you are stupid or you don't know how the Shueisha works.
He was pressured by them to continue Dragon Ball and when he was at the edge, they let him do what he wanted to end his manga, that's why the Buu Saga is not serious and not about power leves bullshit.
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>>381673309
The "iron claw" or whatever you want to call it hasn't been used as anything but a joke in wrestling since the 70s, at least.
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>>381673394
>people think this is Super

Who cares about the name? It came way before Super, and Super completely butchered its adaptation.
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>>381673382
I love the huge obnoxious flash of light and the music that plays whenever he transforms.
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wait so the game is forcing this stupid 3v3 marvel shit?

i cant just play 1v1?

fucking dropped
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>>381673382

I love it. It's so incredibly gaudy, it just fits Frieza's personality perfectly. Of course that faggot would develop a form where he's literally made of gold
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>>381672279
Hope not, for one they don't even have throws in the game to begin with. Make one of them designated hyper armor punchers, like when Nappa glows then punches Tien's hand off.
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>>381673134
Taiyoken. Kienzan is destructo disk.
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What are the chances of him getting a golden form too?
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>>381673484
a lot of things stop being funny when you have superhuman strength though
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>>381673482
>that's why the Buu Saga is not serious and not about power leves bullshit.
>people who unironically think that the core of Dragonball is seriousness and power level bullshit
It's a fucking gag manga.
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Janemba better make the roster or I swear to god. Dude has the most interesting moveset out of all the movie villains and comes with a kickass stage.
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>>381673721
And he is the least used character in Dragon Ball games. I dont know why.
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>looking forward to new DBZ fighting game
>looking forward to a new episode of DBS weekly
>drawing DBZ fanart again

It's like I traveled back in time 15 years. All I need on the roster are Krillin and Gotenks and I'll be satisfied, but anyone out of

>Arale
>Videl
>Chi Chi
>Bulma
>Roshi
>Yamcha/Tien
>Mr. Satan
>Yajirobe
>Ginyu/Recoome

would be fucking sick too
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>>381673594
It's still lame as fuck and would be in Broly's case if he was actually grabbing them for the sake of grabbing them rather than just using it as a tool to smash them into more things.
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>>381673564
Hopefully 0 since it would be more interesting to see hi get Coolers final form instead.
It won't matter though because he's getting bodied.
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>>381661393

This is the most bizarre fucking thing they could even entertain? Why would the image of Dragon Ball be "destroyed" if I fucking played a game?
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>>381673721
janembros unite
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>>381661873
>people wanting to play fighting games on a system with no fight sick support at 30fps on a pad.
Lol no
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>>381673792
True. If anyone would be grapple-based I imagine it'd be Android 16. But who wants to play with that loser?
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>>381673482
>He was pressured by them to continue Dragon Ball
Pressured =/= Forced

>that's why the Buu Saga is not serious
It's about as serious as any other arc.

>not about power levels bullshit
Except it was? It's not like Yamcha was the last person to beat Buu. It was still a combined effort from the two most powerful characters in the show/manga.
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>characters can't even fly
why are people interested in this again?
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>>381656809
Would have really liked him, Yajirobe, Yamcha, Roshi, Gero, or Saiyaman to be in, but I doubt I'll get any of them.
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>>381673791
Krillin is going to be 100% guaranteed
he's even getting a power up in next weeks episode
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>>381673847
pretty wrong in general.
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>>381673867
>16
>loser
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>>381671736

If that's true, explain the second movie he's in then.

I mean he's gets triggered when he sees Goten since he looks exactly like his father, so that kind of shoots that idea out the window.
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>>381673721
Step back oc donut steel villain, real threat coming through.
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>>381673956
You'll get Saiyaman. He's popular in japan.
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>>381669208
Yeah I wish Vegeta was still like he was in the frieza saga. Still a bad guy by fighting with the Z fighters because he had to
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>>381674294
He was stronger than Freiza but Freiza was still the leader. Why?
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>>381674390
Pretty sure Cooler had only recently obtained access to that form at the time of the movie.
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>>381671659
The TFS version is really good imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0JME7eodTk
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>>381673993
>"Gohan, there is nothing wrong wi
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>>381674146
That's the biggest problem. The 2nd Broly movie is what fucks his character over. Everything about the 2nd and 3rd films ruin the idea. The first movie was perfect if you could understand why each event happened the way it did and see past some confusion, but the 2nd movie makes him a retard and the 3rd movie literally makes him a mud monster.
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>>381672137
Yeah, you are fucking stupid.
Those characters are IRRELEVANT, do you understand that?
They have NOTHING to make those characters, there is no fucking materials because they have like 10 minutes of screen time right now. Holy shit, you can't even wait that they do anything in the anime before pulling your dick out? Your shitty Caulifla didn't even fight one single time, she just turned into a SSJ2, that's fucking nothing to make a character in a fighting game.

That's why everyone hate Superfags, you are just a bunch of dumbass.
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>>381674546
>the catalyst for one of the best moments in the series
>not a based nigga
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>>381674613
Teen Bulma > Loli Bulma > Cake Bulma
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>>381672137
Caulifla is a retarded character.
Kale is a stupid attempt at trying to mimic Broly's success.

Superfags are worse than GTfags.
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>>381674817
t. GTfag
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>>381674294
Cool design aside he ain't shit. And his movie sucked too.
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>Thread starts out about balancing the game and whether or not it's wise
>Devolves into Super vs GT and general Super shitposting because one anon can never fucking help themselves

Like fucking clockwork
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>>381674876
it is a really, really good design
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>>381674654
what I don't get is why he even appeared to have a conscience when all the other androids were just straight evil.
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>>381674390
Different Organizations?
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>>381656736
>series ended 22 years ago
>still gets milked
kek, Toriyama must be laughing all the way to the bank
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>>381675032
He was a faulty model which is why Dr Gero had him turned off.
Then the others found him and turned him on.
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>>381674654
The nightmare of Perfect Cell crushing the skulls of Chi-Chi and Piccolo while a powerless Gohan looks on is the catalyst for Gohan's rage. It was lost in the US version for shitty reasons which explains why alot of kids that were watching it at the time were, while understanding, frustrated that 16 of all fucking people was what got Gohan's mojo flowing.
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>>381675032
>all the other androids
How about Android 8?
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>>381675025
It only just occurred to me that he is a reverse frieza, going from slim to big and spiky.
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>>381674876
>his movie sucked
Was better than the Frieza arc.
>inb4 m-muh vegeta characterization
SSJ Goku vs 100% frieza > Goku SSJ vs Cooler > Goku vs Cooler > Frieza vs Goku > Salza Squad vs Everyone > Ginyu vs everyone
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>>381675032
Androids can have feelings too. It was only the white bastards(and arguably Metallitron) who didn't display any sort of emotion.
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>>381675220
>The nightmare of Perfect Cell crushing the skulls of Chi-Chi and Piccolo while a powerless Gohan looks on is the catalyst for Gohan's rage. It was lost in the US version for shitty reasons which explains why alot of kids that were watching it at the time were, while understanding, frustrated that 16 of all fucking people was what got Gohan's mojo flowing.
You mean filler was the catalyst for Gohan's rage?
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>>381673137
Beerus, Hit, and Zamas/Goku Black have good chances
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>>381674390
King Cold liked Frieza more?
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>>381675348
>Was better than the Frieza arc.
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No18 no buy
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>>381675032
The theory is that Gero designed him after his dead son so his personality may be a part of that. He probably couldn't bring himself to erase that personality so he simply called 16 defective and sealed him.
>implying 17 and 18 in the past are inherently evil
They literally did nothing wrong.
>>381675220
That nightmare was the catalyst for his SSJ transformation in the Time Chamber. Gohan either wouldn't have gone SSJ2 or he would have done it after a couple of his friends were murdered had 16 not *buddhas at u* to Gohan.
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>>381674817
>>381674613
the fact that beerus is probably getting in is just as infuriating
he's a shit character and an easy way to benchmark where the series, the new age, went wrong. right at the start.
besides, we've barely even seen him fight anyway so they'll have to make up most of his specials
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>>381668630
Son Goku is Beauty personified, really no one can compete
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>>381675662
>Son Goku is mary persueified, really no one can compete
FTFY
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>>381675637
>the fact that beerus is probably getting in is just as infuriating
I don't mind Super, but it shouldn't take over the roster. Hit is a great addition for unique moves. He's the only Super character I would let in.

Beerus is a waste of a slot though. So many potentially better characters, even filler non-canon characters could have better work put into them.
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>>381656736
fuck that shit im still gonna style with chchi and put ki user to shame
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>>381675637
Beerus is sick though.
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>>381676087
Only if it's loli chichi with her forehead laser and boomerang cutter.
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Ok serious question.
I don't know about the US because we have Dragon Ball 10 years before you.
But here, even if people don't like GT (now), I remember that they were all over Super C17 exactly like Broly.
It was the same for you? So the question is, why people wants 17 instead of Super C17 which is obviously way more intersting to make a unique moveset?
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>>381676361
Because everybody tried their hardest during decades to forget GT ever existed.
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>>381676361
As far as I remember, people thought the design was ok but he had the personality of a rock and trashy fights.
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>>381676361
guy always looked like a metal fan retard
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>>381661638
I hope the game will be db and dbz. Maybe gt but no super shit
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>>381664837
And there you are, AGAIN.
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>>381656736
>yamcha/tien/krillin v cell/frieza/buu
kek
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>>381676972
>solar flare x100
>tri beam
>professional baseball skills
those villains don't stand a chance
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>>381676275
Too bad, you're getting adult Chichi. Wearing the exact same loli Chichi outfit, and it barely fits.
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>>381676361
Super 17 is a trash ass design and GT as a whole was a mistake (with decent ideas). Really, the only things worth including from GT in this game are Omega Shenron, Pan (but only if they're really that stretched for females), and SSJ4 (if only because it's really one of the most unique and iconic things about it). But really GT content should be down in the list of priorities.
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>>381677193
we need a draw fag in here
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>>381676817
This, but swap gt with movies characters
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>>381677198
>are Omega Shenron
U meant to say Nova right?
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>>381677198
I'd be fine with SSJ4 Goku as a GT rep and nothing else. GT is a constant stream of disappointment where great designs and cool ideas get fucked by piss poor execution one right after the other. Super on the other hand has a few neat moments that make you think it won't be abysmal and then pulls the rug out from under you.
t.ex-GT apologist
Trust me superfags, I know. But please don't make the same mistake.
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>>381656798
This.
Into the fucking trash it goes.
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>>381676972
>>381677158
>Krillen on assist with solar flares for stuns and chaining
>Yamcha on assist with bat swings for wall bounces with easy follow ups
>Tien on point
I want it. We'll get DBZ Yamcha if we do get him though, which sucks because DB Yamcha and Super baseball Yamcha are far superior and lend themselves to more interesting play styles. He'd probably end up a rekka character either way which I'm ok with.
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>>381677614
>The one GT rep in the game is Gogeta
>He has x10 Kamehameha, Final Shine, and Big Bang kamehameha
That would be much better than any Super character that isn't Hit.
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>>381676972
>/tien/krillin

Yeah sure laugh because the show makes them look stupid and weak but in reality they have the potential to kill a lot of strong villains.

>Tien uses solar flare
>Krillin uses destructo disc and cut them in half

I dont know why they never thought of this. DBZ could have ended in the Vegeta and Nappa episodes.
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I have always been curious about the Z fighters sex lives. Legit serious here.
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>We’re trying to balance that out with the 3v3 aspect. There may be characters that are better at assisting or supporting than fighting. It could destroy the image of Dragon Ball if, for example, a weak character could destroy Goku. Thanks to the 3v3 feature we can balance that out with the Dragon Ball universe.

This greatly worries me. I don't want someone like Krillin being relegated to a support slut (Like MvC 2 Cyclops) just so power level autists can be happy
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>>381677854
You know, I'll allow it. Perfect loophole for GT content + superior fusion design.
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>>381677854
Hit could lead to some interesting gameplay I suppose, but I like Zamasu far more and he lends himself to a more interesting play style I feel.
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>>381677854
Actually that would be way better. Although it depends if he'd be taking a slot away from a good Z choice or DB rep. As shitty as it is, any single GT rep would probably be better off as DLC. Although if they make him like Raven in Revelator, where you can get him in game or get tired of RNG and pay $4.99 that would be fair-ish.
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>>381678016
>Cyclops
>MvC2
>a lowly support slut
nigger you fucking what
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>>381677854
>Gogeta
>can go SSJ4
It's just about the only way I'd be okay with GT worming its way into this game.
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>>381677993

well clearly Goku, Vegeta, and Krillin have gotten some. Piccolo reproduces asexually and doesn't even have a dick I don't think despite what the daily dose leads you to believe. Mr. Satan isn't really a z fighter but he's also clearly gotten some.

Unless you mean specifically how they have sex. Like do you think Chichi asks Goku to go Super Saiyan?
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>>381676817
This, but swap GT and Super
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>>381678364
>Like do you think Chichi asks Goku to go Super Saiyan?

This. Who initiates? How rough and kinky? Is there cosplay and roleplay involved? Krillin is a manlet, is 18 satisfied with his dick size?
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>>381677993
I'm convinced that Goku is only pretending to not know what sex is. In DB I get it, he's too retarded to not be pure. But between that part in the Buu saga where he tires to bribe the Elder Kai with lewd pictures of Bulma, (who let's not forget is his first friend ever, the two have a history), and literally conceiving Goten right before the Cell games, I don't buy his obliviousness anymore. Watch, Master Roshi's on the sidelines knowing full well that his best student learned more than just martial arts from him.
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>>381678547
funsexydragonball
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>>381678364

> Goku, lets wrestle!
> Yeah!
> On the bed! Naked!
> Yeah!
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>>381678692
>Goku ends up literally wrestling chichi and breaking her arm
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>>381656798
Yeah, having characters that specifically suck in 1v1 is kind of retarded design.
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>>381677198
>But really GT content should be down in the list of priorities.
It should be DBZ > movies > Super > DB > GT
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>>381678639
He only bribed Elder Kai because it worked with Master Roshi. He got lucky that his strategy actually worked.
>>381678692
>>381678753
>Goten is conceived via a Rolling Cradle
No wonder he could go SSJ at age 5.
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>>381678639
>We probably won't get SWOLEshi in the game
It would be fantastic.
I'm bulling for shit like him, Yamcha, Gero, etc because I'm tired of the same shit time after time making it in games and getting attention.
I don't want a Saiyan barginbin and want to see some new and interesting shit.

>>381678692
>>381678753
No, all she has to say is that it's some sort of special stamina training that only works if you're married to the person and that if you're good enough at it it makes a baby.
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>>381656798
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>>381679018
Felicia is cuter and thus better.
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>>381659062
>Good characters have bad assists.
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>>381678908
>He got lucky that his strategy actually worked
>lucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW0Gf3vxOac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQWR86l_78
He knew exactly what he was doing. He surpassed Roshi because he's subtle about it.
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>>381660931
Blue and Red fags on Namek too.
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>>381677193
>dbz gets unJUST chi li
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>>381679270
Why not hire a prostitute?
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>>381663493
There isn't a trait that makes it easier to go super saiyan retard.
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>>381679160
>tfw Doom's assists are not only good but he also stands further away than regular assists.
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>>381659598
No because this shit is what leads to the shitty unchanging rosters of Saiyans, big villains and Android 18 in every fucking game. Maybe I want to use Videl or Zarbon or Burter or something.
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>>381679629
Didn't Bulma actually do that for Roshi in Super?
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