>This game is AMAZING >Why? >Immersion

>>381648397
Why is that a bad opinion?

>This game is DUMBED DOWN from the previous game
>Why?
>Because they took out this shitty thing that nobody actually liked or used in the last game so I hate it because there isn't enough bloat

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>>381648397
>dude I love this game it has cute girls

>>381648534
At least cute girls exist

Immersion, from what I understand, is the player thinking the game world is actually real life and he is inside the videogame

>>381648672
I thought we were highlighting funny circumstances in new contexts. My bad.


>immersion
>cute girl shrugs independently
>sensible chuckle.jpg

>>381648672
you don't understand what's immersion

>>381648672
You don't literally feel inside the game, your mind is distracted and you feel invested in it which leads to that feel when an hour passes really quickly without you realizing, which isn't limited to video games

>>381648842
>Dude turn off the hud, it increases my immersion
>This is so unrealistic, it broke my immersion
>It took me out of the game!
What does it mean then?

>>381648861
Such a shit tier term tbqh

>>381648397
Sauce

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Ludonarrative dissonance

>>381648919
It's a form of intrigue that is parallel with enjoyment. Reading a book comes with a cognition that affords your imagination and ability to create new ideas fluidly. Running for a while becomes like second nature and your body's response to this high is to adapt to the environment so that your mind can focus on other things. Video game immersion is like that where your ability to enjoy the content is directly influenced by the content's ability to disengage your senses of disbelief and re-establish the connection between the audience and the content beyond the superficial layer.

It's like playing Sonic 2 with the music off, you don't know what's ahead but you kind of know somehow anyway

>>381648987
Don't bother, fakku deleted it from the internet

>>381648397
>implying IMMUSHUN gaems aren't comfy

Have fun trying to force retards to articulate why exactly they found shovelware enjoyable

>>381649175
>fakku
just search in exhentai

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Thats why I loved SMT4. The music, the characters, the Tokyo overmap. Strange Journey also hit me with that "immersive" feel. That game really picks up a little before Eradinus.

>>381649175

You can grab it from the fakku packs on https://sukebei.pantsu.cat/

Just search for "fakku"

>>381648397
What happened to this artist?, I really enjoyed this "series", but there seem to be nothing new.

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>>381649502
Kike Overlord Jacob owns the copyright. Check >>381649453 or some alternate online site.

>>381648987
[Inoue Kiyoshirou] Houshi-iin no Oshigoto

>>381649568

Reminder that this kike has a notification bot set up on IRC that alerts him whenever "fakku" is mentioned on 4chan so the defense force can jump in to shill.

Very glad the cartels hold over nyaa is gone now that pantsu is around. /g/ preserve us.

>>381649568
>copyright a hentai book from japan
What?

>>381649693
Go to Fa kku and find out. He got the rights for several porn publications.

>>381648462
>This game is amazing

>Why?

>Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords

>>381648861
In that case Mario Bros is the most immersive game ever to me. Just having fun with that running through levels and holy shiy it's midnight

>>381649453
>downloading porn
Sorry, I only read online galleries

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>>381649878
And now its removed and you will never see it again. Whoops.

>>381649819
Why is immersion a buzzword? it's just a computation of all the elements of the game to make you feel like it's a coherent word

>B-But it's comfy!

>>381649847
It can be, thing with the term "immersion" is that it's a vaguely defined subjective experience that can be caused by a large number of different things. A game of Tetris can be more immersive than STALKER or whatever else people usually bring up when talking about immersive games.

>>381648397
>This game is bad

>Why?

>I'm too stupid to understand why people like it.

>>381649878

Online galleries download temp files to your computer idiot.

>>381649956
Sorry, I'm not going to download lolis on a device connected to facebook and the NSA, and neither will I drag my desktop in the bathroom

>>381648397
She looks like animu Zoey.

>>381650065
It's not stupidity, it's plain stubbornness doubling down or autism at that point.

>>381650053
I don't think the type of immersion you get from focusing on a game of tetris is the same you'd get from playing something like Metro 2033. People who call immersion a buzzword are probably the same people who actively fight against it and don't bother playing in the dark with headphones on

>>381650065
>This game is bad

>Why

>[give reasons]

>You just hate things that are popular
>You're a fanboy
>[no response]
>Wow so edgy!
>[smug reactionface] git gud

>>381650293
You don't think yeah, but can you actually clearly distinguish the two types of immersion and define them? That's what makes the term shitty, it's a feeling you have that can be caused by many different aspects of a game from sound design/graphics, a well written story, deeply engaging mechanics or high but well designed difficulty. They're distinct aspects of a game but all fall under the label "immersion".

>>381649453

Which pack specificially, i've checked through them all and none of them list that one by Inoue

>>381648672
I bet you only play mobas and other multiplayer shit.

>>381650424
?Why do people like this game?

>[Give Reasons]

>BUZZWORDS, BUZZWORDS. YOU'RE ALL LYING AND DON'T ENJOY THIS GAME BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING PEOPLE CAN LIKE!

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>>381648397
>when you don't understand a concept and make a b8 thread so smarter anons explain it to you

>>381650646
No, I hate mobas, and don't play multiplayer games anymore

I am also mentally sound and don't think I'm actually Geralt of Rivia riding a horse through a real swamp, but playing a videogame

Anyone noticed the more normies get into gaming the frequency of posts like op increase?
They don't want lore or a story
They don't want atmosphere or immersion
They dont even care about good graphics
They just want some shit like lol or dota or to pew pew things without thinking.

>>381650825
Besides a few genres most games have been primarily gameplay oriented for decades, story/immersion faggotry only became big in the 00's

>>381650825
Thats LITERALLY what normies want you fucking retard

Last of Us, the new God of War, Skyrim, Fallout, Witcher etc are all loved by normals because of "muh immersion muh story"

They hate gameplay if anything

>>381650293
its not a buzzword its just a word associated with a bad argument because vagueness and subjectivity, like people who defend a game because "its fun"

>>381648502
I see you've been to the MHW threads too.

>>381651014
You're wrong and showing your underageness.
The games in the 90s were bigger on these things then the games now. They were dripping in lore, atmosphere and the best graphics of the time.
This is what people want even the normies want this but are too dumb to get it as they favour games where this stuff is priority.
No the fact is normie casual gamers are pigs who conciously demand slop.

>>381649175
You can find it anywhere you cuck. Fuck fakku

>>381651150
Fuck off Capcom shill.

>>381651110
Dumbass you don't get it the normies don't want anything they don't even want good gameplay.

>>381650634

Search for "The Job of a Service Committee Member"

>>381651243
Most games in the 80's and 90's were influenced by the arcade design mentality, it's only in genres like rpgs, niche adventure games and some pc stuff did you get a lot of story, even then things like dungeon crawlers existed which were very gameplay-oriented. Do you even play games from the time or did you play a few classic RPGs and called it a day?

>"This game is bad."
>"Why?"
>"It focuses heavily on combat and player skill, but enemy AI is rudimentary and trivialises the entire experience unless the player very consciously limits themselves to make the fights challenging."
>"lol git gud kid"
Seriously don't get this logic.

Sorry y'all niggas are so jaded you can't relate,

>>381648672
Was it autism, /v/?

Honestly immersion is very much overrated.

>>381651472
>>381651243

I'd say the ratio is about the same now as it is today.

>>381651472
Wrong. You never played games in the 90s you hipster.

>>381649160
hmmm
so it is a meme buzzword

>>381651150
no thats pretty much all of the RPG codex shill's complaints about RPGs

>>381652054
I meant real games not PC garbage

"Lol we have boobies xD"

>>381652079
I guess if you wanted to be jocular and bubbly about it, sure.

>>381652139
You're rambling now. Dumb kid.

>>381648397
>doujin got banned from ex-hentai

what the fuck?

>>381652139
>gets called out for being completely wrong and born in the 2000s
>immediately tries to ruin the discussion with platform war bullshit

I'm not surprised.

>>381652245
Jews.

>>381652154
mm yes, quite so.
excuse while I go re-establish the connection between myself and the content beyond the superficial layer of my japanese cartoons

>>381651980
If you take indie shit into consideration then maybe. But games from devs with an actual budget have gotten much more story driven. It's only in the past 3-4 years have games started to embrace their arcade elements openly again, can't imagine a game like Doom 4 coming out in 2009.
>>381652054
Not an argument

>>381652205
>Look at my cool c64 game it has 4 colors and loads for 20 minutes
>Silly Larry you can't touch those boobies, haha
>Copyright protection, better look up which funny face I have to copy from the manual
>Beep boop skreech, my favourite tune

PC gaming was always shit

>>381652356
You didn't have an argument when you said 90s gaming was arcade.
You fucking reddit cretin.

>>381648397
Immersion is a very personal feeling, I don't think someone can give that as an aspect why a game is good

>>381652518
It's common knowledge idiot, why do you think most action games had continues? FPS games even had scoring systems ffs

>>381652097
>Rpg codex shill
Care to explain who are you referring to?

>>381652356
The other thing this doom4 is xD arcade shoot em up is more reddit retardation.
You are oblivious like a pig to the lore, atmosphere and graphic derail of the game and think its just pew pew and power ups "arcade"
Nevermind that fps games do not have their origin in arcades but pcs and this style of game has existed since the 90s you underage reddit scum.

>>381652627
Dear god you are an idiot. Fps games came from pc not arcades.
Fps gameplay is not arcade gameplay you mental reject.

>>381652356
>But games from devs with an actual budget have gotten much more story driven

Not really. Breath of the Wild is more gameplay focused than any other 3D Zelda, MGSV is more gameplay focused than MGS, Resident Evil 4-6 are more gameplay focused than 1-3, etc.

>can't imagine a game like Doom 4 coming out in 2009

What about Serious Sam 3 or Hard Reset? They came out around that time IIRC.

It sounds like you're just completely ignorant of games tbqh.

>>381652784
Yes and console action games "came from" consoles yet still had continues, scoring, even scoreboards. Why do you think this is? Could it be because they were influenced either directly by arcades, or other games influenced directly by arcade games? Same applies to FPS games, you thick headed goon

>>381649453
Thanks bruv

>>381652923
>Resident Evil 4-6 are more gameplay focused than 1-3
What? No they aren't. You could make that case for 4, but even then it has a huge focus on set pieces and cutscenes. BotW was praised precisely because it embraced its gameplay oriented roots, because people have been getting sick of cinematic shit.
>What about Serious Sam 3 or Hard Reset?
Serious Sam has always been a weird low budget series, indie games even at the time had bigger budgets than SS3. But yes obviously there are some exceptions, they don't disprove the overall trend.

>>381648672
That is the most autistic description I have ever heard of immersion. It's a simple matter of being absorbed by the game enough that your mind is completely in it. The reason you think of it as a buzzword is because there are so many elements that go into achieving the effect and most of them are subtle, so it is hard to describe just why a game is immersive. There of course is a level of subjectivity to it, but on a general basis games that are considered immersive will have quite a few things in common.

This isn't even limited to video games either. It can happen with books and movies as well. It's a completely normal thing. I'm sorry you've never been captivated like that, maybe these forms of entertainment just aren't for you.

>>381650634
https://nhentai.net/g/124787/

>>381652937
You're just a product of the hipster gaming culture that thinks everything gaming is pixel art and arcades. You don't understand where things come from.
Three big genres do not come from arcades fps, rts and rpgs. Neither do adventure games. The recent moba trend is a spin off from rts.

>>381648397
It was a great series until they got to the monster dick part. That was pretty retarded.

>>381650042
Just fucking try and tell me this isn't objectively comfy anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G01LEdKV9VU

I don't see the point of these threads where you try to justify if people should care about subjective concepts.

>>381653109
>What? No they aren't. You could make that case for 4, but even then it has a huge focus on set pieces and cutscenes.

Yes they are. The originals are full of cutscenes themselves and half the game is spent reading files. The other half is spent running around occasionally shooting enemies.

>BotW was praised precisely because it embraced its gameplay oriented roots, because people have been getting sick of cinematic shit.

By "gameplay oriented roots" they mean the original LoZ you retard, not 90s Zelda. LttP and OoT are just as linear and story focused as most Zeldas that came between them and BotW.

>But yes obviously there are some exceptions, they don't disprove the overall trend.

A trend you haven't made a real case for.

>>381653465
It's just yet another thinly veiled porn thread. I haven't even read OP's post. Just report it if it bothers you so much.

>>381653239
I already listed some exceptions, learn to read. Yes not all genres stem from the arcades, that doesn't change things in the slightest because they were still massively influential in the 80's and 90's but largely irrelevant now outside of smaller developers.

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>>381653217
Does anyone else get a huge unclosable blank page window popup for 10-20 seconds after opening an nhentai page? Nhentai would be pretty usable if this didn't happen every damn time.

>>381652245
Blame Fakku. It's still on other hentai sites that don't give a fuck though.

>>381653569
The most infuential games in gaming in the 90s WAS NOT arcades get it into your ignorant head. That was an 80s thing.
The 90s were not called the golden era of gaming for nothing. You should try learning before engaging in such ignorant shitposting.

>>381649819
>Why?
retarded question. If you expect objective criteria fuck off from creative mediums and go discuss structural engineering

>>381653701
Even if that were true which it isn't for the first half of the 90's, it doesn't change my point in the slightest and is just a desperate nitpick from a dumb faggot who has nothing of substance to add

>>381653518
>Yes they are.
You can look at cutscene compilations on youtube to see that this is wrong, especially for the likes of 6 which probably won't even include the slow "atmospheric" walking sections
>By "gameplay oriented roots" they mean the original LoZ you retard, not 90s Zelda
No shit, when did I even mention the 90's specifically?
>A trend you haven't made a real case for.
Gameplay oriented genres like fighting games, beat em ups and shmups have faded into obscurity. The genres that take influence from said genres (DMC, GoW, Bayonetta, etc.) are filled with cutscenes and qtes. FPS games have been getting more and more linear and set piece driven ever since Half Life came out, when's the last time you played a shooter without forced walky talky sections or waiting around for an elevator? Tomb Raider has become a movie, Max Payne has become a movie, Wolfenstein has become a movie.

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>>381648397

>This game is awesome
>Why?
>The story is awesome

>>381654226
>You can look at cutscene compilations on youtube to see that this is wrong, especially for the likes of 6 which probably won't even include the slow "atmospheric" walking sections

Those cutscene compilations probably don't include reading all the files and don't take into account that the gameplay in 6 is mostly all combat and has the most developed combat mechanics in the series while the gameplay in the originals is mostly backtracking with nothing actually happening.

>No shit, when did I even mention the 90's specifically?

Here:
>>381651014
>story/immersion faggotry only became big in the 00's

And here:
>>381651472
>Most games in the 80's and 90's were influenced by the arcade design mentality

>>381654608
>files
Thing is that those were completely optional, you could skim through them and get the info you needed. You'll find that to be a trend in the story elements of older games, it's non intrusive. You won't have Half Life 2 style unskippable cutscenes in every shooter for instance. Also having solid combat mechanics doesn't mean your game doesn't suffer from the modern game dev mentality, take a look at Max Payne 3 which has excellent combat but is 50% cutscenes or some other type of cinematic nonsense. Furthermore, old RE games were focused on somewhat non linear exploration and puzzle solving rather than combat so it's a pretty shit comparison.
>quotes
So somehow you took me saying "not 00's" and thought I meant "only 90's"? The fuck is wrong with you.

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>This game is approved by father
>Why?
>DOOSHA

>>381654936
>So somehow you took me saying "not 00's" and thought I meant "only 90's"? The fuck is wrong with you.

No you fucking retard. You said it became big in the 00s, that makes the 90s the cutoff point for proving you wrong. Obviously games a more story focused today than they were in the 70s and 80s. But not the 90s.

>>381655174
Because OoT, a game that came out at the end of the 90's had similar amounts of story to pretty much every action adventure game that comes out today? Get real.

>>381655442
Yes. Once again, you're not really making a case for yourself.

>>381648397
OP what do you think the appeal of games like Metro or STALKER are?

Genuinely curious

>>381656435
Already brought up some basic examples which you conveniently ignored. That's in addition to the pure arcade genres I listed largely dying off in the 00's after many high quality releases in the 90's. Are you trying to just win an internet argument at all costs at this point?

Dorf fotress is the most immersive game ever made, try to prove me wrong.

>>381657193
I can't because immersion is entirely subjective and preferences dictate which games you will find immersive.

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when was the last time you've played an actual immersive game, /v/ ?

Gameplay is the actual meme buzzword, every game has gameplay even if you don't like it or you think it is too basic/complex

>like a game for it's gameplay
>everyone else hates the gameplay and likes it for its atmosphere or story
>i have literally no one to talk to about the game
This would be real sad if it weren't for the fact that I can just play the game again and have fun. Even if I couldn't play the game or didn't feel like playing it I could just listen to taeko ohnuki or takako mamiya and forget my problems for a while.

If you can guess one of the games I was thinking of you might win a prize.

>>381649819
immersion is an actual thing, and is one of the keystones of game development, and has been such since the late 90s.

You wanna know what the real gaming buzzword is right now? Graphics. Oh, or better yet... 4K.

>>381657660
Yeah you tell them, no reason to have anything more advanced than lines of text.

Only 'meme' about higher resolutions are marketing terms like '4K' and people like you calling things buzzwords and memes.

>>381657371
I replay Thief 1&2 every couple of years, so not that long ago.

>>381657635
Vagrant Story.

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>This game is AMAZING

>Why?

>It's fun

>>381657558
>every game has gameplay
For now. Soon.

>>381649819
>Video games are literally escapism
>Immersion doesn't matter

>>381648397
Atmosphere is a pretty big part of game enjoyment to me these days. That's why the dark soul series are among my favorites. The atmosphere is just amazing and pulls you in.

>>381657958
That's actually a pretty good guess, but no. Most of my interest in vagrant story is the art. I kind of like the combat but every time I play it I just think to myself "why didn't they just make it a full on realtime arpg".

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>This game is AMAZING

>Why?

>Nintendo

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>This game is fantastic
>Why?
>It's comfy

>>381657371

World of Warcraft back in 2004. I wish I knew how to get immersed again in gaming.

>>381658403
This is exactly how I feel about Life is Strange, I'm sorry.

>WAAAH YOU LIKE THE GAME FOR WRONG REASONS BE LIKE ME WAAAH!!!!

You're an absolute fucking retard

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>>381648397
>This game is AMAZING
>Why?
>Tiddies

>>381658173
Immersion matters, so does fun. They're just shit explanations because they are vague experiences that others might not have.

>>381658526
I basically agree with ACfag on the whole a game can't be good if threads discussing it are just cute/sexy picture dumps thing. I mean Raynes' body in Bloodrayne 2 was an absolute masterpiece but that game sucked. If people made Bloodrayne 2 threads I would enter them for the sole purpose of looking at various drawings of her butt.

>>381657371
New vegas still gets me immersed every once in a while. Immersion mods help a lot.

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>>381658597
>just shit explanations because they are vague experiences that others might not have.
>others might not have
It's almost like certain people like certain things about certain games.

>>381652245

I think the ehentai owner is a cuck that's afraid of being sued. Wani only sends takedown notices and have never acted upon it, look at how many sites host wani shit and Jewcob has no money to sue.

>Why don't you like this game?
>[reason]
>That doesn't count/that's subjective/not an argument
>[OK well why do you like it then]
>Because I just do, I don't have to justify myself with an essay

Damage controlfags are just as bad as the haters they claim to be annoyed by so much

>>381658481
Same, guilty pleasure of time. But fuck episode 5 and fuck Chloe.