JUST

>15 years

You don't count the total number of years when a project gets scrapped and rebooted. The current incarnation had at most 4 years of work and thats pushing it

>>381624153
So you're telling me nothing that was in the game in 2005 made it to the final release?

Retard

XV was fine, it wasn't VII, or IX, or VI, but it was better than X and XIII, worse than XII(Zodiac) though

>>381624718
>but it was better than X
Patently false.

>and XIII
Event this is up for debate.

>>381624215

a few names and concepts but nothing substantial

>>381624815
Then it still counts

>>381624813
X is utter garbage.

>>381624032
>FFXV has all that going for it
>not even that good
>had to patch story back in
>used cutscenes from the movie because :^))))))))
good one

>>381624889
b8

>>381624215
You really have no idea how the design process works do you?

>>381624952
Yes, and for FF15 it was a process that took 10-15 years.

>>381624032
XV.

>>381625958
evening XV-kun

>>381624032
XV was only in dev for 3-4 years proper.
Stormblood is DOA. Even Episode Prompto looks better than Stormblood.

>>381626085
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA JUST

>>381624215
Nothing but a 1 minute CGI concept teaser even existed in 2006. Noctis didn't even have a name back then, and his design along with the soldiers in that trailer also changed design. Only the basic concept of someone who can teleport, summon weapons and that location we saw in 2006 was kept but that wasn't even game assets, it was CGI concept.

You might as well say Stormblood started when FF14 started development.

>>381626319
>You might as well say Stormblood started when FF14 started development.
That's not how expansion packs work, retard.

FFXV started development when it was announced as 13 Versus. Your mental gymnastics won't convince anyone with a brain otherwise.

>>381624813
>Event this is up for debate.
No it is not.

>>381626415
It literally is. I've seen people debate numerous times if XV is better than XIII or not. That should tell you how shit XV is.

>>381626415
You're right. XIII is objectively better.

>>381625028
>10-15 years
Apparently only existing as a concept sine 2006 was 15 years ago, even though it didn't become a game until 2010 at the earliest, and didn't become XV until 2012 when it actually started proper full development with 200 devs, a budget and a new engine.

>>381626592
You keep using that word "proper" as if it excuses the years of development before that.

>>381625981
Are you in some sort of denial?

>>381626723
No, XV-kun. Are you?

>>381626173
Yeah, just fuck FF14s shit up.

>>381624032
FFXV.

>>381627449
>>381627461
So why was FF15 such a failure?

>>381627449
Reminder that FF15 only existed because FF14 kept it funded.

Sad!

>>381627461
No, the joke here is that FF15 will always be known as a failure only liked by contrarians while FF14 has had a solid success thus far.

>>381626414
>That's not how expansion packs work, retard.
And XV while keeping concepts from Versus is still a whole new game. You don't know how rebooted projects work.

>>381627664
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

To be fair between XV 1.0 and XIV 1.0 id rather play XV.

>>381627664
Stormblood's development process started in early 2016

FF15's development process started in the mid-2000's

These are facts. Get over it.

>>381627752
Too bad FF15 won't get better like FF14. FF15 will always be shit.

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>>381626459
No it is not. The only people even trying to argue that are braindead lightningfags. That only tells you how desperate Lightningfags are. XV is easimly among the best FFs yet and it shits on 13 in every single aspect.

>>381626512
XV has better characters, music, combat, world, monster designs, dungeons, exploration, story, lore, ending, animations, graphics and more than XIII. There isn't a single thing XIII does better than XV, other than say XIII being a corridor simulator. Even the most linear part of FFXV in chapter 13 is like a maze compared to your average FF13 map.

>>381628001
How many hours a day do you try to convince people to like FFXV?

Whoever wins we lose.
You are funding Square's never ending string of bad decisions.

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I like both. And I also liked 13.

>>381626676
Because it didn't exist as a game in 2006, or 2007, or 2008, or 2009. It only existed as a game in 2010 after FF13 was done and they formed a skeleton crew of around 20 devs, including new hires like Wan Hazmer, Sun Prasert, Roberto Ferrari etc, and one of the lead engineers for crsytal tools then created a heavily modified version of crystal tools they dubbed ebony engine, which is what they used for versus starting in 2010, and they created stuff in 2010 for a few months until in late 2010 when FF14 tanked, they were forced to put Versus on hold for 2011 through to mid 2012. And it was in mid 2012 when they rebooted Versus into FFXV, gave it 200 member dev team, a full AAA budget and they started migrating to a new engine with Luminous.

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>>381627517
What failure? You mean breaking high sales records for the franchise and getting more GOTY awards than any other FF?

Meanwhile 14 was a disaster that almost bankrupt the company, XV literally profited and SE reported their best financial year alongside XVs sales report included since the merger happened.

>>381627556
Mobile profits funds almost everything at SE.

>>381629084
Can you explain why most people thought FF15 was shit?

Why are you comparing a mainline final fantasy to some off shoot MMO?

>>381627593
While the reality of the sitaution is that XV is known as a massive success from the get go while 14 is known as the game that almost tanked SE and forced them to put other games on hold just so they could rebuild it into not being a complete and total piece of shit. And now it's just a generic wow clone ff themepark.

>>381629084
m8 did you even read SE's last investor meeting? XIV and DQX were much more profitable than FFXV

>>381629206
That's the joke. An expansion pack for an offshoot MMO ended up being received better than a high-budget mainline title developed over a decade.

>>381629290
>Received better

Stop using /v/ as your only source of news.

>>381629350
>/v/

It even has better reviews, retard

>>381627731
Are you? By your own fucking logic Stormblood started when FF14 started.

>>381627791
FFXVs development process started in 2012 when it became XV.

By your own logic Stormblood started in 2005 when FF14 started.


>>381627837
Good thing XV is already better than 14, and 14 will never get better while XV is constantly getting better with every update and DLC episode.

>>381629223
>living in the past

Meanwhile in the present everyone has forgotten about FF15 already.

>>381628743
Why are you arguing with a retarded person?

>>381629426
Are you seriously trying to convince people that XV's development process started in 2012?

Nocht as a character existed BEFORE 2012. How fucking dumb are you?

>>381629132
They don't. Most people think it is good but nothing more than that.

>>381629426
>Good thing XV is already better than 14
No one even plays XV anymore lmfao

>>381628078
How many hours a day do you try to convince people to shit on FFXV?

>>381629554
0 because people do it without needing to be convinced already.

>>381629447
Why did you reply to your own post?

>>381629529
From what I've seen most people have called XV medicore, at best "good"

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>>381629084
>literally who awards
>there was too much empty space so he filled it with random pictures of the game
>implying the aggressive, deceptive marketing and ten years of exposure aren't huge contributors to the sales numbers
>implying a main-line FF is ever going to sell poorly in today's market, especially when it's open world

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FFXV is all the proof anyone needs Square Enix is a joke. You can just tell ARR's profits went to fund that turd and its awful movie when it should have been spend on Stormblood.

>>381629206
FF14 fags are desperate

>>381629084
b-but xv bombed?

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Is there anything that more accurately captures XV than this webm?

>>381629775
FF14fags just got a good expansion pack. Meanwhile XV is dead, only kept alive by a handful of shills and shitty DLC.

Who's really desperate here?

We're starting the night early for FFXV-kun, aren't we?

>>381629841
even has a shill trying to convince you it's good

>>381629841
IT'S FUCKING RAW

>>381629664
Stormblood is better than HW so far though.

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>>381629239
Did you?

HD game sales for them GREW from 58.5 to 92.8, while their MMO sales SHRANK from 31.6 to 22.7.

You are full of shit and literally can't read.

>>381629290
But it isn't.

>>381630296
It has better reviews and fan reception. How doesn't it? Curious.

>>381630238
>ffxv strong sales
more like western shit they publish to prop up the xv blunder lmfao

>>381630296
It objectively does. Better critic scores and fans of FF14 are saying SB is good. FFXV got lukewarm reviews and fans of the mainline games said it was a disappointment.

>>381629376
>has literally only 1 review.
>it's a 9/10 from Destructoid
>Same exact score that Destructoid gave FFXV.

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If you told me in 2012 that FFXIV would become good and FFXV would flop, I'd be surprised.

How did SE let this happen?

>>381629435
That must be why you're trying to compare FFXV to some shitty MMO? Wow so forgotten.

>>381629447
Couldn't help myself to wreck him.

>>381630650
not him but that shitty MMO is actually playable, refunded XV after 5 hours lmfao

>>381629476
Are you seiruosly trying to deny the fact that FFXV started as FFXV in 2012?

>Nocht as a character existed BEFORE 2012
And? Versus was nothing more than a concept, XV while reusing some concepts is still a whole new game, hey just like ARR is from FF14 1.0.

The hyur used in the promo trailers for FF14 1.0 is STILL used in every trailer for any of the expansions for 14.

>>381630650
That's OP's point. That "shitty MMO" manages to actually be good with a small budget while FFXV barely manages to be playable with a $300m budget.

>>381630792
not him but you're fucking rertarded if you think XV's development process started in 2012

>>381629579
So you're trying to convince everyone every day while samefagging but failing at it.
>>381629132
Most people think FFXV is great, not sure what rock you're living under.

>>381630792
FFXV took 10 years to make. Get over it.

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>>381630927
>Most people think FFXV is great

>>381630927
>Most people think FFXV is great
you're trolling, right?

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>>381630927
>Most people think FFXV is great

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>>381629656
>t-these don't count
>t-those pics don't count
>the game had advertisement that doesn't c-count
>forgets ff14 1.0

MY FUCKING SIDES

>>381624032
XIV is better despite the MMO aspect but understand that both are cancerous bloatware that not only delayed each other but other major projects at Square-Enix.

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>>381630927
>Most people think FFXV is great,

>>381629664
First of all mobile stuff is what funds games at SE, second of all Sony funded the movie, thirdly why would it even matter if profits from ARR was used to fund other upcoming games at SE, when that is what the company should be doing in the first place? Also DQX in Japan makes more money than FF14 does worldwide.

>>381631089
>>forgets ff14 1.0
Most people have because unlike XV, the game actually improved over time.

>MMO
Discarded. That's not to say XV wasn't hot garbage.

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>16 posters
>88 posts

>>381631229
At least it succeeds at being an MMO while XV couldn't even manage to be good at one of the simplest genres.

>>381629841
How is that even remotely accurate? Fuck man even the food within XV is more properly cooked that that shit.

>>381631367
it tastes like shit and XV was shit

>>381629862
You mean FF14fags just got a mediocre expansion pack while it's DOA, while XV did better than 14 did in total and has actual good expansions and new content people care about coming.

You're the desperate one here.

>>381631487
Keep convincing yourself.

>>381631487
>actual good expansions
XV's rushed DLC isn't "expansions"

>>381631487
>XV did better than 14 did in total and has actual good expansions and new content people care about coming.

More like blatant content cut out to sell as DLC

>>381631205
FFXIV's ideas, QoL improvements and content updates are mostly lifted from DQX anyway.

>>381630323
No it doesn't.

>>381630403
SB has literally 1 review being from destructoid and it's the same score they gave XV, 9/10.

>>381631731
better reviews on the playstation store too

>>381631731
General fan reception has been better for SB too.

>>381630362
>financial report specifically mentions XV as being the main reason for HD games profiting
Man you're denial is fucking hilarious.
>inb4 b-but they're lying?!

>>381630601
But FF14 isn't good and XV not only was a success but had record high breaking sales for the franchise.

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STOP MAKING FUN OF FFXV

IT WAS GOOD

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>381631880
>MUH SALES

that's literally all you have, XV-kun. Give up.

>>381631880
sales won't make XV not shit

>tfw FFXIV looks really good, but MMOs turn me off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLr1c27r78

>>381624032
>autist lolicon nip

You just described the optimal game developer, going by /v/'s retarded definition of autism.

>>381630728
Standing in line for hours is your definition of playable for SB?

All you're proving to me is you haven't even played XV while you're just here to shill XIV. XV is actually playable while SB has you standing in literal online ques.

>>381630801
The point is that the shitty MMO is worse than XV while XV is better than the shitty MMO, you can stop samefagging while you're at it.

>>381624032
damn

>>381632102
Sorry dude you're not convincing anyone.

>>381630854
XVs development process did start in 2012 because that is when it started as FFXV.

>>381630948
FFXV took 3-4 years to make. By your logic Stormblood took 12 years to make because FF14 started in 2005.

>>381630990
>>381631071
>>381631030
>no argument so let me post a reaction image
So you agree. You can see this everywhere and anywhere on any site that discusses XV.

>>381632314
>>381632102
The absolute state of this anon

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>>381624032
>20 ips
>110 posts
man mods where

>>381632314
>>381632102
>m-maybe if I keep calling XV good people will agree!

>>381632382
Shilling for XV isn't against the rules, unfortunately.

>5 posts per person
Looool

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>lalas
>loli
lolno

This is what an mmo designed by a lolicon looks like

>>381631218
But XV has improved over time, which you'd know if you had actually played it. It also making profits for the company while FF14 almost tanked the company.

>>381631326
XV succeeds in being an ARPG, while 14 failed at being an MMO which is why it almost tanked the company and they just copied wow in the end and slapped an FF skin on top.

>>381631419
XV was great, nice denial.

>>381630990
>>381631071
>that obvious samefagging

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>>381632658
you

>>381631524
>This denial

>>381631567
Episode Prompto looks better than anything in Stormblood. The fight against Gilgamesh and Cor in episode Gladio are better than any piece of shit auto battle fight in 14.

>>381631591
You really don't know what cut content is.

>>381632584
Serious question, what do you get by doing this? You're not convincing anyone that XV wasn't shit.

>>381632824
Try something new, XV-kun.

>>381631831
Prove it.

>>381631934
>>381631978
>tries to act like 15 bombed
>gets BTFO
>tries to act like 15 was received poorly
>has more GOTY awards than any other FF
>tries to act like SB has more higher reveiws than XV
>The only review for SB is from Destructoid and it has the same exact score Destructoid gave FFXV, which is 9/10.

>>381631978
Playing great games won't make your taste not shit I see.

>>381632951
>Prove it.
Higher fan meta critic scores, higher score on the playstation store, etc.

>>381632824
Don't worry, I know what cut content is

>>381633017
>double negative

Does this confirm XV-kun is an ESL?

>>381632836
Are you expecting a serious answer from a raging fanboy like him? His XV folder is nearly double the size of my porn folder.

>>381632951
Now try and prove XV doesn't have clunky, shit combat.

>>381632179
>>381632345
>>381632891
>>381632394
The irony.

>>381632836
I could ask you the same thing, why are you trying to convince people that XV somehow isn't great while trying to shill stormblood?

>>381632951
Not an argument. Stay BTFO cuck

>>381633157
>The irony
Prove it.

>>381633157
I don't even play FFXIV but I can tell it'd be more fun than FFXV was.

I'll never understand XV-kun's autism.

Why XV? Did he do this for XIII and XII as well?

>>381630238
This is misleading in regards to XIV because it cites a profit loss on copies sold going into March 2017 and doesn't specify profits made by ongoing subscriptions which is where the MMO's make most of their profits.

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>>381633129
>was in a thread with xv kun a while ago
>unironically tried to say XV has better combat than Metal Gear Rising
>webm he posted with that was literally just holding square to block a couple attacks
>mfw

>>381633038
First of all metacritic means nothing, second of all SB only has 26 fucking user scores submitted, meanwhile FFXV has over 3000 user scores and it has far more positive scores than SB does.

>>381633048
And how is Gladio going to fight Gilgamesh somehow cut content when they said 2 years before the game was out that they never had any plans to put Gilgamesh in the game in the first place? How is Prompto who is seperated from Noctis cut content when you are playing as Noctis during ch12 of the game?

You do know that the episode DLC are just parallel side stories that take place while you are already doing stuff as Noctis in the game, right?

>>381633636
>First of all metacritic means nothing
red flag of someone who's defending a shite game

>>381633636
>>381633157
>>381632951
>>381632824
>>381633742

get in here

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>>381633636
The sad thing about all this XV-kun is that you'd probably actually like XIV better. It has an actual story, exploration, and developed characters that XV failed to deliver on.

Unless you like XV for the action combat, which in that case, you just have shit taste and are beyond saving.

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>>381633129
The combat is great and depending on the weapon types you use you attack fast or slow, if you attack slow it's because you're using a slow weapon, if you attack fast it's because you're using a faster weapon.

Now here's the part where you just ignore anything and everything I just said and post and continue to act as if XV is somehow clunky or shit, because you have no actual fucking argument.

>>381633193
>>381633273
>>381633296
Trying too hard.

>>381633439
It is not misleading at all.

>>381634030
is that webm supposed to be impressive?

do people actually like that shitty, floaty, teleporting combat?

>>381634030
No an argument.

>>381633693
>Fails to read the whole post
Red flag on a dipshit who has no argument and is desperate to shill metacritic.

>>381633909
No I wouldn't, because XV has an actual story, actual exploration, actual characters you can care about. 14 is just a generic MMO with an FF skin on top.

>>381634091
It's more impressive than anything you can do in the clunky MMO shit """"""combat"""""" you call gameplay in FF14. But hey you have no actual argumet just like I said you fucks wouldn't.

>>381634405
>XV has an actual story
Alright there's no way you're for real.

>>381634454
He is
He believes everything he says

>>381634505
He's either the most dedicated troll I've ever seen on /v/ or the most autistic guy I've seen on /v/. Either way, impressive.

>>381634454
>XV somehow doesn't have a story
Alright there's no way you're real.

>>381634505
Because I'm right and you know it, are you seriously trying to say XV doesn't have a story?, also why'd you reset your IP?

I don't give a fuck if you like the story or not, but trying to say XV doesn't have a story just exposes you as a lying piece of shit who hasn't even touched it.

>>381634617
>most autistic guy I've seen on /v/
You got it
Also fun fact, this isn't the only place he does this. He bragged about doing this on other places like gamefags and neogaf.

>>381634761
Are there any screencaps or archived threads about this guy? I'm morbidly curious. I want to bask in his autism

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>>381634030
It is misleading for the reasons I just said. Look at the report yourself. They cite steady performance profit-wise on the MMO front, which is due to subscriptions but also cite a loss in cost and net sales due to no expansions.

One other thing to note from >>381630238 is that HD Games market increased more between March 2015-2016 than March 2016-2017 (XV's release) meaning that Dragon Quest Heroes and Builders increased market share more than FFXV.

>>381634761
His username is Bazztek if you want to check it out

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I'm gonna have to go with XV

>>381634617
How am I a troll when you are the one shitposting and spouting shit this entire thread? You literally just tried to fucking say XV doesn't have a story.

>>381634761
>>381634829

>He's actually responding to himself again
>he's going to deny it and post a screencap as if that proves anything, when you can easily modify out a (you)

>>381634831
I have looked at the report and that is literally one of the slides from the report. You're in denial. You really have no idea how fiscal year works do you?

>>381634913
You're not an investor. "Winning" is whichever game is better.

>>381634913
>he's a score whore

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>>381634829
>Are there any screencaps
Plenty
>archived threads
m8, I don't think you truly understand. He's been doing this almost everyday. For 4+ years

>>381624032
>FF14 is good now
No we shit on every FF after 10

>>381634931
Is this his twitter?
https://twitter.com/_bazztek?lang=en
>>381634931
Is that your twitter?

>>381635005
>we
Fuck off, 12, 13, 13-2, and XIV:ARR/HW/SB were objectively good

>>381634956

Take it by high scores and GOTY awards, which XV has plenty of

>>381635048
Too bad XV didn't have good gameplay

>>381634831
>44.3 to 58.5 is somehow a bigger increase than 58.5 to 92.8

>>381635048

Take it by GOOD GAMEPLAY, which XV has none of :^)

>>381635048
I'll take it by the fact that I played it for 6 hours before returning it.

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>>381635006
Yes it is, he's shared it with /v/ a few times

>>381635101
>>381635117

Definitely had some problems, but i enjoyed it :^)

>>381634931
>In denial
The evidence is plain as day. You're clearly demonstrating you don't know how fiscal year reports work. You probably don't even know that their fiscal year ends April 1st. You're also in denial over XV getting BTFO by DQ Builders.

>>381635219
>some

>>381635163
>utorrent
Why am I not surprised?

>>381624032
None. One's the shittiest genre in gaming (MMO) and the other is your typical JRPG shitfest ever since the PS2 gen started.

>>381634989
>>381635006
>>381635163
>He's still reponding to himself reposting his same old meme images https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/9ihhHOED6T6eWUJhIy8SpA/

>>381635101
>>381635117

>>381635224
The evidence literlaly shows an increase in HD games falling in line with XVs release with Matsuda specifically mentioning XV as the main reason for the increase in HD game profits, while you can plainly see the MMO net sales have shrunk.
Good thing XV did have good gameplay.

>>381635332
Do you have a job (besides shilling XV, of course)?

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>>381635259
He's also an aussie shitskin, so there's that

>>381635407
this explains so much

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Sup bois

>>381635548
WE WUZ A GOOD GAME AND SHIIEETTT

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>>381635548
Sup

>>381624032
Ehh, XIV had more love and care put into it. At least that team learned from their mistakes.

>>381635332
>The evidence literlaly shows an increase in HD games falling in line with XVs release
Smaller increase than the previous year with the release of Dragon Quest Builders

>MMO net sales have shrunk
Yes due to no expansions but you'd have to be retarded if you can't correlate the annual reports citing of "steady financial performance" with monthly subscriptions.

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>>381635704

>Ehh, XIV had more love and care put into it.

>>381636114
This gif sure put up some compelling arguments

>>381636114
kek thanks for reminding me the XV DLC literally had "fake news" and "alternative facts" memes in it

>>381635548
>>381635637
>>381635407
apparently I'm three different people, only the picture I posted myself of me giving the finger was me.

>>381635970
You literally cannot fucking read. It shows a bigger increase for 2017FY compared to the 2016FY for HD games, like are you fucking blind or something? Do you seriously think going from 44.3 sales to 58.5 sales is a bigger increase than going from 58.5 sales to 92.8 sales? Are you ignoring how XV was specifically stated as being the reason for profit?

>Yes
And that's that

>>381635704
Lol no.

>>381636538
do you have a job or nah

>>381624032
Too many cooks spoil the broth.

>>381636561
>can't counter arguments
>b-better ask irrelevant personal questions

>>381636221

You never really presented one to start with

>>381636694
People have given up on you months ago, XV-kun. We're just curious as to how you tick now.

>>381636727
Not an argument ironically

>>381636736
>we're just shitposting for the sake of it
At least you finally admit it.

>>381637171
>he thinks this changes how wrong he is

>>381637171
Nah XV is still and always will be shit. I just want to know what an autist like you does for a living.

>>381637340
Good thing I've been right this entire thread.

>>381637424
Nah XV is still and always will be great. But you've never played it and just want to shill XIV instead.

>>381637562
How many hours do you have in XV?

>>381637704
Well over 100.

Is this the part where you say "durr i have a billion hours in 14 so it's better" or some shit?

>>381637704

>How many hours do you have in XV?

Not him but i have about 80 hours, i enjoyed every minute of it

>>381637815
>>381637869
That's all?

>>381637815
>over 100 hours

What the hell are you even doing? I platinumed it in 80 without a guide.

>>381637925

>That's all?

What do you mean? 80 hours for one playthrough(i'll definitely do another) its alot of gameplay

>>381638029
>alot

>>381637991
he spent 50 of those hours afk shilling on /v/

>>381638104
kek

>>381637991
What does platinum have to do with anything when the majority of the side content has nothing to do with trophies?

>206 posts
>31 IPs

BAN HIM ALREADY

>>381637925
What do you mean? For a single player mainline FF that is standard.

>>381638279
inb4 he starts up another thread when this one dies

>>381638079

Yes, it's alot, whats your point?

>>381638490
He'll probably get on your case for saying alot instead of a lot.

>>381638350
I had over 150 hours in FFX and FFXII

>>381638659
And?

>>381638727
those games were good unlike xv

>>381638780
XV is good, nice try.

>>381630174
HWs standard battle theme was completely unfitting for over half of the areas in the game, the fact that SB has a more thematically fitting one for both Mhiggerland and Weebland is a huge advantage alone.

And im not that far in but i doubt they gonna do a "THE FALL" plotline cancellation again, dear god that was a wet fart.

>>381639459
If only they tried with xv, it might've been good

XV sucked and so does XV-kun.

>>381633401
He spent about 3+ years shilling for the game >for free as well. You cannot recover from that, all you can do is dig down and shill even harder to try and save face.

>>381639549
>if they kept the vXIII story/DMC combat this could've been amazing
>instead we got this

feelsbadman

>>381639459
>My rushed, unfinished game is as good as a normal, finished mainline final Fantasy
>if you don't agree you're baiting
XV fags are really retarded. We got more out of even XIII. We got a full fucking story with a codec and beastiary. It was even well paced and the story could be summed up in a single fucking game. XV was a wreck that was rushed and rewritten over and over and even after they finish all their updates and DLC it'll still be unfinished. The only thing the game has going for it are the characters

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Reminder that this guy is so damn insane that he actually goes through the archives for threads that were up when he wasn't on /v/ at the time.

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>>381639964
Holy shit
Defending xv is literally his entire life now.

ITT: "No u"

>>381639964
Seriously what's his deal? I refuse to believe he actually likes XV this much.

>>381640280
That's been XV-kun's MO for about 4 years now. The guy can't into banter at all which shows he's not even a real Australian, most likely a shitskin import.

>>381640343
I'm 100% convinced he is actually insane. Not memeing, not insulting, genuinely diagnosed by an accredited Doctor. There's no way someone does this for all these years just because. Even the most dedicated shitposters on /v/ give up about a couple months after a game releases.

>>381639549
They did try and we got the best FF yet, nice denial.

>>381639650
No.

>>381639750
The story for Versus was never finished and it was never DMC combat, the vast majority of basic combat actions we see Noctis do in the 2011 trailer are still in the game with the same animations to boot.

>>381639908
It isn't any more rushed than FF9 was, you are full of shit and baiting because you're triggered that XV was well received and sold well. Faggots like you are retarded, we got far more out of XV than 13 ever hoped to shit out. 13s story is such a clusterfuck of retardation that no one wanted more, XVs story is straightforward and simple and people are begging for more because it's actually interesting and has good characters. 13 isn't well paced at all, it's 10 codiroors in a row, then a flat grass plain area with only monsters on it, then you go back into 2 more corridors to the end.

XV has a whole open world continent with multiple regions in it, different dungeons, settlements and outposts, various wildlife you can observe in their eco systems, and then the story ramps up once you go to Altissia and keeps going on the trajectory of intensity and build up, and it's why it has the most emotionally impactful endings in the entire franchise because of how well the characters were done.

XV wasn't "rewritten over and over" any more than any other FF was. FF7s original concept doesn't even resemble the final FF7 at all. And the DLC stuff in XV is just adding sidestories for some of the other characters, the main story itself is already told and resolved within the game.

And FF13s ending is so bad that SE literally retconned it in FF13-2.

>>381640419
You can stop shitposting already.

>>381640830
What's your second favorite FF game?

I wonder why this xv fanboy's posts never bump the thread

>>381640830
Post proof that you've played it then.

>>381640937
FFV, then FFVI.

>>381641014
I already have in countless threads.

>>381641545
How many times have you had sex?

>>381641610
Why ask that, you know he'll probably lie

>>381640830
At least with FF9 we go a full length game that didn't take 10 hours to beat. XV sold well based off hype alone. Trust me, I fucking bought the Deluxe edition day one. And XV had good pacing until after the shit show that was chapter 9. And yeah it was rewritten over and over more than any final Fantasy. It was even rewritten twice after the fucking episode duscae demo. It was changed and abandoned and rewritten on and off for ten fucking years.
Also, XIII's ending wasn't retconned senpai. XIII-2 takes place like right after in a world where everyone forgot about Lightening and assumed she sacrificed herself to save cocoon too, when really she was chosen by Etro to fight in Valhalla

>>381641545
>I already have in countless threads.
Then you can post it again. I'm not autistic enough to crawl through the archives like you.

>>381641679
He picks up FFXV Cosplayers at cons.

>>381641778
You can beat FF9 in 10 hours so I don't know what the fuck you are trying to bullshit me here.

XV sold well because it was good, they even had to restock on units in January because retailers ran low from the original 5m stock SE send out being almost sold out, which is why SE even sent out an additional 1m in January to begin with.

FF7 original concept
Detective Joe is a hot blooded detective in a 1999 NYC who goes around solving murder mysteries

FF7 mid concept
Cloud Strife "Ex Soldier" in a dieselpunk setting who is chasing after Sephiroth who is Tifa's brother (The character of Aeris was at this time called Tifa and used Tifa's design), Cloud teams up with Blow

FF7 final game
Cloud Strife "Ex Soldier" in a dieselpunk setting who is chasing after Sephiroth, he teams up with a girl he knew as a kid Tifa, a girl he just met Aeris, and a guy named Barret

FFXV original concept
Noctis is the prince of Lucis, his father Regis is having a peace treaty with Iedolas in order to end the cold war between Lucis and Niflheim, however Niflheim steals the crystal and launches a full scale attack, Noctis was inside the city with his bros Ignis, Gladio and Prompto when the attack happened then left the city to go on his roadtrip around the world, making his way to Niflheim to get the cyrstal back. He just met for the first time a blonde girl Stella Nox Fleuret from Tenebrae. People worship FNC gods.

FFXV final game
Noctis is the prince of Lucis, his father Regis is having a peace treaty with Iedolas in order to end the cold war between Lucis and Niflheim, however Niflheim steals the crystal and launches a full scale attack, Noctis was outside the city with his bros Ignis, Gladio and Prompto when the attack happened, they decide to go on his roadtrip around the world, making his way to Niflheim to get the cyrstal back. He was childhood friends to a blonde girl Luna Nox Fleuret from Tenebrae. People worship Cosmogony gods.

XIII-2 literally retcons XIII.

>>381642484
>hey want to go to my room later
>Ew, no
>NOT AN ARGUMENT. FUCKING CUNT, KILL YOURSELF.
I'm not so sure

>>381642523
It's not the same thing at all you turbo autist. You're comparing words and doodles on paper that we only learned about 10 years later because of Ultimanias and interviews to full blown trailers and marketing that was presented to the public, most of which were still changing all the way up to the release of FFXV and the kicker is that it still fucking is changing a year later.

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>>381642613
I can actually see this happening.

>>381624032
Both are garbage, just end this shit and move on SE

>>381643478
Why would SE move on from FFXIV considering the success it's been and continuing to grow?