This game is so fucking slow holy shit

>>381615786
Everything about that game that wasn't vehicles or their physics was trash

>>381615786
You playing the MCC or PC? This shit's good either way, unless of course you ask the arenafags.

>>381616147
But Halo is an arena shooter

>>381615786
>>381616032
>>381616081
*hands you a contrarian medal of honor*

>>381616081
Not true.

The first half of the game is some of the best singleplayer FPS around, it just falls off a cliff once you meet the oracle. It's slower, but it was designed for a controller afterall.

>>381617273
>Calling Halo out for being the sack of shit that it is is considered contrarian.
Last I heard, it was considered being older than 12.

>>381616147

Halo is a arena shooter, its just slower.

Halo CE has the greatest FPS campaign of all time

>>381619050

The first half, maybe.

>>381615786

The things that really stuck with me from Halo were the set pieces, the music, the sense of exploration and discovery and to a lesser extent the story. The gameplay was certainly just "okay" special but I still loved it because everything else was so good.

>>381619050
Any of the Duke Nukem 3d campaigns are better than the entirety of Halo

>>381619050
Underage b&

>>381618814
Nice Shitposting
>>381615786
Still better then 5, and 4

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>thinking halo was some great online shooter when dozens of excellent half-life mods had been out for years

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Why was the score so fucking good?
This guy is literally a composing god

>>381620687

I'm 29

>>381621016
>cs
>popularized casualness to appeal to a wider audience and pretty much every other shitty thing in modern shooters
>outclassed in every way by the things that were directly inspired by it like halo and cod

>>381621265
I think the fucking music score was great.

the problem with Halo/Halo's legacy is that besides that abortion of Halo 2 for Windows Live/Vista, the only PC release was HALO:CE -edition (not counting the 343-forge editor for windows 10).

Microsoft fucked up there, I kind of liked Halo for windows, it's engine was nice, though I wish the playercount had been higher for multiplayer games

>>381621421
CS has shit ton more depth than Halo and CoD you retard

>>381621621
>outclassed by HALO and COD.

agreed with your first point, but this is just bait.

games like the original Rainbow-Six, Ghost Recon, along with a few others in the "tactical"/"realistic" shooter genre did it much better,
COD was outclassed however by the later Red Orchestra mods for UT2k4, which basically were able to create situations similar to COD's scripted campaigns in a more organic multiplayer scenario.

>>381622060
whoops meant to reply to
>>381621421

>>381621714

CS has like 2 mechanics lol

>>381615786
putting the "fight" in "firefight"
go back to cod faggot

>>381615786
That's why console kiddies love it so much. When in reality it's just an average, casualized babbys first fps.

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>>381615786
Narrative wise I thought it was a good game that set up a lot of breathing room for excellent writers like Eric Nylund, plus it gave us quite a bit of excellent music.

Not on the same boat as the lot of you with the latter half of the game though, I don't mind back tracking through those levels. I enjoy the familiar space and seeing everything deteriorating into chaos around you, it's fun and makes it feel as if you're rushing to escape every situation.

>>381622296
t. silver

>>381622592

What does that have to do with what I said?

>>381620687
>game game out 16 years ago
>somehow underage

fucking retard

What a surprise; a console fps that came out over 15 years ago feels outdated?! Who would of ever thought that.
I really hated the library for being so god damn boring.

>>381622620
Well, you clearly know fuck all about the game

>>381615786
>>381616032

>its a "DUDE HALO IS BAD BECAUSE ITS POPULAR IM 16" episode

>>381615786
It's good.
Halo 2 is good.
Halo 3 is good. ODST was a blast.
Halo 5 is pretty alright but holy shit fuck that campaign.

These are the good halo games. Honorable mention to HW and HW2, but those are totally different.

>>381622060
i was talking about cs and those two specifically because they were the big things after cs died down but get most of the flak for things it made popular.

>>381622709
What difficulty did you play it on? Heroic or legendary makes it more fun because you're actually scrounging to survive and stuff. Legendary is pretty unfun though since the flood is infuriating on that setting.

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>>381623041
Halo: ODST was the weakest narratively speaking out of 1, 2, 3 & even Reach.

The forced love story between Buck & Dare was fucking cringe worthy. They were watching Earth (their last stronghold / colony) being glassed and all they could think of was whether or not they were still dating.

Best part of the game was when you were by yourself with The Rookie.

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>>381622709
The Library on Legendary was infuriating, but I still had fun playing it.

> The two big blast doors shut and the room gets Flooded, pic related

>>381623313

this. So tired of faggots pretending its the best story when its basically a generic TBS original series, especially compared to the more dramatic trailer for it.

Reach was better because it at least kept a consistent tone of "this is a serious threat"

>>381623313
That's the only part of ODST I wasn't a big fan of. Frankly I think Nathan Fillion is becoming a cancer upon video games- his characters always seem to push the needle on the cringe gauge.

>>381615786
>>381616032
>>381616081
Samefag

>>381623034
No, it's bad because it's a casual console shooter you fucking retard
It's literally a step down in every way from games like Unreal and Quake, and its popularity infested the industry with these games for literal drooling down syndrome fucks like you

>>381622907

Enough to count the number of mechanics

>>381623614
My man.

And Nathan Fillion? Is he some lead writer for ODST or something?

>>381623495
Hell, I wouldn't even say that Reach kept up that tone. The beginning of the game they were pretty casual about the Covenant knowing where Reach was, if we're talking book lore they'd have the entire regional fleet on point at the first sight of a Covenant presence.

Shit's no joke, they glass most human planets within hours of discovering them.

>>381623313
Why I only love Halo 1-3's campaign.

>>381623313
>The forced love story between Buck & Dare was fucking cringe worthy. They were watching Earth (their last stronghold / colony) being glassed and all they could think of was whether or not they were still dating.

I take it you've never been around codependent narcissists? Their entire identity and sense of self worth relies on precariously balancing all of their bullshit against eachother. So when the shit hits the fan and knocks one of the tent poles over, the entire thing comes crashing down, and they revel in it, despite making a huge fuss over it.

It was great writing for the characters that they were; the boot fit. If you're going to hire high budget actors, might as well rip into the sort of people they tend to play.

>>381623694

>parroting shit you dont even understand in a pathetic attempt to fit in with the average /v/ contrarian

>>381623810
>The beginning of the game they were pretty casual about the Covenant knowing where Reach was

I could believe spartans being stoic about encountering a covenant scouting party on reach as opposed to "ah fuck!" reaction. What I cant buy is any type of soldier making casual jokes and being flippant and gossiping about old relationships when earth is being invaded

>>381623180
I believe it was heroic. I just remember that I died maybe twice towards the end and feeling really bored just because it doesn't give you much of interesting playing field. Halo: CE has a pretty big hard on for big boring open blue arenas.

>>381623694
I bet you never bothered to beat the games on legendary

>>381623935
Great argument you pathetic shit stain
NEVER reply to me again

>>381623034
>popular
lmao, last game sold 10 times worse than cod or fifa. New gen doesn't care about this dinosaur crap.

>>381624278
Let me just get in here before he goes on about "artificial difficulty" like it's a good point.

>>381615786
>snailo

>>381624328

>moving the goal post

>actually trying to pretend Halo wasnt popular

youre literally pathetic. Stop posting you newfag

>>381623842
I haven't, so I can't say I'm familiar with the personality type. But you have to think contextually about their situation. This is Earth, their last planet that they have. If it falls, humanity is pretty much done for, for the long haul that is.

There are more impractical characters in the Halo lore that have gone jaw down from the situation they were in. I'm a faggot for saying this but it just breaks the emotional weight of it for me considering the ad campaign they were trying to run for it. Even the music was moody / depressing.

>>381624196
Really? The most expected reaction I'd say was from Jorge, he was pissed off that they had found the planet. Most Spartan IIs considered it their home given the fact they were raised / trained there with the rest of the Spartan IIs.

It's bad news for everyone if the Covenant have Reach in their nav data, that's their main Military HQ. Stoic is fine, but I mean tactically they were too casual in response.

>What I cant buy is any type of soldier making casual jokes and being flippant and gossiping about old relationships when earth is being invaded

Agreed.

>>381621714
>CS
>depth

Hoooooly fucking shit you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no way you have played all 3 series at their peak and have that opinion

>>381624403
was. key word - was. Lmao go play dos games or smth grandpa.

Halo: Combat Evolved? More like Combat Devolved ha.

>>381624207
Budget limitations are a bitch mang. Those dudes ran through their original budget making parts of the project that got scrapped. The end product was made for about 40 bucks and a bag of cheese flavored bugles.

>>381623313
The scene where dare kissed buck is literally ripped right out of the Chicken Run movie. There's a video putting them back to back somewhere

>>381624278
Don't make me laugh
The only difficult thing about Gaylo is having to get used to aiming with an analog stick, that shit is piss easy with m&k for anyone that doesn't have the reflexes of a 80 yo granny

>>381624476
Explain.

>>381622535
Name me some good Nylund books, anon. He seems to be the only dude who wrote good halo books. I read some of Dietz's stuff and it was hit or miss.

>>381624449
>ad campaign
Dude never give any weight to any ad campaign. See Halo 2, or Halo 3's Believe for related examples. It's all bullshit fake hype.

ODST was supposed to be a $30 DLC and Microsoft forced Bungie to make it a $60 full release out of pure greed. It was just supposed to be a creative offshoot to fill the void of the cancelled Halo movie.

I agree that them getting upset is stupid and impractical, but honestly it's part of what made it so real. If you're talking emotions, it worked. People are flawed and selfish at the worse of times. If it's the end of the world, you'd feel hopeless enough to just air what you really thought of people. Wouldn't matter in the end.

>>381624721
Did they waste alot of money developing the mac version before they got bought out from Microsoft?

>>381623694
name another game like halo that's on consoles right now

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>>381624935
To be fair, ODST had enough content that it could stand as its own game.

In fact, I'm pretty sure ODST had a longer campaign than 3 did.

>>381623810
>Nathan Fillion

He's that guy who voices Buck. He was a fairly popular TV actor back in the day who made his name on a Joss Whedon show. He now rides that pony to the bank playing quiptastic characters in games. That wisecracking robot man in the trailers for Destiny 2 is played by him.

>>381624728

holy shit lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fpn3reY5I

Halo had really good AI that would have been better utilized in a different game.

>>381625241
Call of Duty Infinite Warfare

>>381625032
Yes, also I believe they dedicated significant money to trying to get the Mac version of Halo to work as well. The reason it wasn't working was because it was way too ambitious and a shitload of assets and stuff got scrapped. There's no official figure that I can find on the budget, and many people think the big figure that floats around was mostly marketing money and had nothing to do with the actual game's budget.

How come its so hard for 343 to fill in the void made by Bungie? They seem to think that no matter what they do if it still has spartans in it, its Halo

>>381624915
Aw shit, Anon. I'll even put them in chronological order for you.

The Fall Of Reach, The Flood (Halo One novelized with some Covenant perspective, pretty great), and First Strike. I've yet to read the rest of what he's written, I've heard Ghost Of Onyx is pretty good.

>>381624935
Fair enough. Never knew it was originally meant as DLC, have a source on that? Don't need it but I'd like to read more about it. On the same boat with this guy. >>381625296

Yeah, but what ruins it is that it's badly written characters. So while it may be realistic, I just don't care about the characters and rather I care more about the larger scale events that are happening. Buck could have been in the city while it was being glassed and I could have cared less.

>>381625338
Damn, a voice actor really has that much influence with the industry?

>>381625552
This is how I know you're trolling, or just haven't played those games. They're extremely different aside from the fact that you shoot people.

>>381625296
ODST was 2 hours long, Halo 3 was about 8-10 hours long.

>>381625296
>>381625581

Lots of choice quotes in here. It's pretty big, but feel free to ctrl-f ODST and Recon.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/xwqjg3/the-complete-untold-history-of-halo-an-oral-history

>MARTY O’DONNELL
>The plan for the expansion pack was to put it out cheaply in the spring of 2009, as we’d finished it the winter before, and to under-promise but over-deliver. People would think, wow, for a $30 expansion pack, this is almost as good as a full-fledged release. We had Halo 3 in the title so everybody knew it was an expansion pack, and for an entire year of talking about it to the press we’d say, “Yeah, this is a campaign expansion,” and tell them to expect some extra fun in the Halo 3 engine.
>They looked at their 2009 Christmas release schedule for the Xbox and they came back and told us it had to be our major Halo release for the 2009 Christmas season. We were on our knees, begging them not to do that. Now we were over-promising, with the threat of under-delivering. It was the opposite of what we wanted. It’d be a gem at $30. But as a major release, it was going to get dinged. And it was.

>>381625581
I read the halo books, anon. i like them a lot and was just wondering if you'd read anything Nylund has written aside from his Halo stuff.

PS- Nathan Fillion doesn't really influence the industry, he's just been typecast into playing the same character in every game he's in, and that character is annoying. He's the game equivalent of "Fuck it let's just put Chris Pratt in it" except he's got about 10% of the charm.

>>381625573
They probably will when Halo 6 is released, they finally realize people want Master Chief, split screen, lan, and a good mp with ALL the features at launch.

>>381623694

Just because an FPS isn't Quake or Unreal does not make it bad

A game doesn't need to be SANIC fast, it can be slowed down like Halo and still be very enjoyable

Your argument is flawed because you're an autistic faggot who needs everything done quickly

You want quake? Play fucking quake, what's the point for other games to copy the formula? Have some variety in your life

>>381625680
They're both casual shitfests compared to their PC counterparts.

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>>381625886
Ohhh, my mistake... I've done a few reports on him, but I've never read much of his other works. Can't say if his alternative reads are any good.

>>381625836
Thanks, man. And fuck, that's painful to look at. Big money publishers are ran by complete shit heads.

>>381625573

They dont get halo. They dont understand why people loved it or really understand the lore of it plus they are probably rushed so they dont even have time to think about it.

Microsoft should have asked bungie for a "Halo Bible" or something so 343 could study it so they stop making Call of Duty: Halo

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Wasn't the AI one of the selling points of the original trilogy? I always found it pretty neat that you actually had to pick and choose your weapons for the situation, especially in Legendary where that shit actually matters.

>>381626210
Has anyone ever understood why people loved Halo? Because each release might as well be a new IP.

>>381626210
343 already has the Halo Bible on them.

>>381626392
Bungie stopped giving a fuck after Halo 3, which when their games started declining.

>>381617453
I actually liked the library for the sheer gunplay.

The rest was pretty trash though yea, that's what happens when you just recycle levels for literally the entire rest of the game....without even changing the reverse order.

>>381626521
The games were always on a decline though.

>>381617453
>>381626525
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/xwqjg3/the-complete-untold-history-of-halo-an-oral-history

Just some food for thought.

>MARCUS LEHTO
>There was no way we would be able to build everything for the story, which worried us. We were up against a very hard deadline. So I floated the idea of reusing some of the environments—and we shamelessly reused at least three or four, played through backwards and modified a little bit. But we really needed to do it

>PAUL BERTONE
>And the designers worked really hard to make each area unique. Take the two Pillar of Autumn levels, in the air and after it’s crashed. The artists worked their asses off to make that look and feel different in almost no time. It was like, you're going to have like three weeks to take that initial geometry, crack it open a little bit, make it look like the fight is done, like a whole side of the ship got blown out. It was a moment of pride for people.

It was fun editing the weapons. An assault rifle that shot plasma grenades was nice.

>>381626579
Not him but I'd say some things were better and some things were worse from halo 1 to 3. But after 3 everything consistently went down without anything ever coming back up

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>>381626579
Sales wise it didn't start until Reach which only sold 7 million which was disappointing after Halo 3's 10+ million. It didn't helped that Reach's sales stopped at 7 million while Halo 3 went on to reach 14.5 million sales.

>>381626767
Reach had better community content than 3. And arguably better weapons overall.

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>>381626690
For being a level that retreads old ground, The Maw is still one of my favorite maps in the franchise.

>>381625927
Let's take chess
And remove half the pieces
And cut down half the board
And let's make sure when a player tries an advanced strategy he gets disqualified
>HURR IT'S NOT BAD IT'S JUST DIFFERENT
>ORIGINAL CHESS SUCKED ANYWAY
Fuck you and your ilk

>>381624915
He's only written 3 halo books, and there's a sure a hell of a lot more of good halo books then those 3

>God tier
Silentium (343)
Contact Harvest (bungie)

>Great tier
Ghosts of Onyx (Bungie)
Broken Circle (343)
Cryptum (343)
Last Light (343)
Evolutions (343)
Shadow of Intent (343)

>Good tier
Fall of Reach (Bungie)
Primordium (343)
First Strike (Bungie)
Hunters in the Dark (343)
Saints Testimoney (343)

>Okay Tier
Glasslands (343)
Cole Protocol (Bungie)
Thursday War (343)
New Blood (343)

>Ehh tier
The flood (Bungie)

>Shit tier
Mortal Dictatata (343)

there's been more recent ones I haven't read yet

>>381626715
>tfw when you make a the warthog turret shoot Scorpion round and the game crashed

That was so much fucking fun

>>381626885
So every board game that's not chess is bad?

>>381626835
except reach outsold Halo 3, stop parroting bullshit

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>>381626878
Agreed.

Shame about the fucking level design though.

>>381626843
Idk man I rememeber having ten times as much fun with custom games in 3 than Reach. I really can't recall one custom game type from Reach that wasn't just carried over from 3.

>>381626690
Holy shit, well that explains everything. XD

>>381626984
Not every board game tries to be chess. Halo is a failed arena shooter abortion.

>>381626885

>why is Risk bad?
>BECAUSE ITS NOT CHESS!

This is you anon. take the L bitch nigga

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>>381627037
No it didn't, didpshit

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/games/halo-3
>14.5 million
Maybe you should stop revisioning history, faggot.

>>381627350
*dipshit

>>381619050
Agreed. Only thing that competes is half life and even then halo feels much more complete.

>>381627304
Refer to
>>381627235
And promptly kill yourself

>>381627530
that doesnt even make sense because youre a very stupid person who thinks saying "dude halo sucks!" makes you fit in

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>>381627235
>halo is supposed to be an arena shooter

Have you actually played a Halo game?

Halo is my favorite game behind Mario 64 and donkey kong country. It's not that the game was super amazing, but it's the fact it gave me a social life. My circle of friends stayed up God knows how many nights playing halo. I still get goosebumps thinking about waiting for the weekend and deciding whose house would we stay at and have a lan party.

Go ahead and mock me. Halo wasn't my first fps, goldeneye was, but halo introduced me into the social aspect of games. I'll be 29 in July. Using the "baby's first fps" meme no longer applies here. The game is 16 years old. If you're using that to somehow brag then you need to get off 4chan because you're probably in your mid 30s at least. Hell, I need to get off but here I am sadly. Admit it, /v/, only a shit posting contrarian would crap on Halo now...or you're way too old to be on this board.

People BORN the year Halo came out will be 18 in less than 3 years time

How d'ya feel?

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>>381627823
Stop

>>381627773
Don't worry bud, I had the same experience.

Met a lot of people through Bungie, including a few of Bungie's guys themselves.

Didn't get on with all of them, and don't talk to most now, but the game and its community took me from being a wimpy shit that wouldn't dare pick up a phone to someone willing to fly overseas solo to PAX to meet online friends.

26 in July, and miss the golden Halo days frequently.

>>381623694
>Thinking shooters need to be stupid fast like quake and unreal
I want this meme to die already. Halo may be down syndrome shit but speed like quake is pure autism

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i sped it up for u bro

>>381628221

why...

>>381624904
He probably thinks everyone using movement scripts to avoid making noise and having gigantic nade explosions is high skill.

>>381619050
>Halo campaign
>good

It is just recycling the same fucking hallways over and over again, and most missions involve backtracking. It was fucking horrible, it was the reason I stopped buying games at full price because the demo was the only good part.

>>381627823
The 8-year-old squeakers screaming into the microphone during Halo 3 are likely posting in this very thread right now.

>>381623313
Well odst isn't canon

>>381628608
>made by bungie
>not canon

your fucking books aren't canon, the games are

>>381628221
What the fuck has happened to Halo

It's like something from a japanese dev now

>>381615786
Every 3D game that is 15+ years old feels slow now. If you played it at release you wouldn't think it was nearly as much of a problem.