>Tanabe in charge of the game >Retro Studios is not involved

>>381613953
>Retro Studios is not involved in the project
Is there a source for this?

Can you read? It says freakin METROID PRIME 4
THATS WHY WE ARE EXCITED

Tanabe produced every single one of the Prime games. Also produced every single one of Retro's games.

>>381613953
Tanabe was co-producer of the first game and the producer for Echoes and Corruption, he'll do fine here.

>Always wanted a Prime game in at least 1080p 60fps
>will have to be grateful if it at least runs 720p 30fps due shit hardware

Why live

>>381613953

>Tanabe in charge of the game

He's been in charge of all of them.

>none of the original developers are involved

The original developers left Retro a long time ago.

>a brand new developer is on charge of the project, all of them are japaneses

and? all of Nintendo's best games lately have been done by teams of all new developers. You seem to forget that Retro was a new, unproven studio at first as well.

>Tanabe already talking about fucking with the timeline as new "gameplay" mechanic

He mentioned it years ago and likened it to the dual world gameplay of Metroid Prime 2. He also said that he might NOT do it because people didn't like that attempt. Calm the fuck down.

You know what game also used this mechanic, though? Ocarina of Time.

>>381613953
Even if Retro did work on it, none of the Prime team are there anymore, so it doesn't make a difference.

Reminder that Retro were basically shitters before Nintendo gave them Metroid.

>>381614320
If you want prime in 1080p60, fucking emulate it. You have no right to be shocked that Nintendo used shit hardware for the third generation in a row.

>>381613953
>fucking with the timeline

He was talking about a time mechanic like the Timeshift stones in Skyward Sword.

>>381615054
Nintendo has never used good hardware
Even the N64 despite using a cutting edge GPU they managed to fuck up with some serious design choices. I'm not even talking about the cartridge medium, which is a whole other can of worms

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>>381613953
>Tanabe is a boogeyman
His track record says otherwise. Literally the only reason you people don't like him is because of Paper Mario and even then he's more of a scapegoat because the idea of Miyamoto doing anything wrong is traumatizing to anyone who beheld him to be 10 feet tall, et cetera

>>381614320
I still have faith they can do a 60fps Prime game on the Switch. Might be 900p unless Nintendo are gods and can make Odyssey run in 1080p like some speculate.

>>381615394
Odyssey has already been confirmed 720p with fucking frame drops

Yeah it's not finished, but that doesn't mean they're going from 720p to 1080p. It just means they'll get rid of the drops.

>play as child samus with bird people as time mechanic

Why would you fuck not want this

>>381613953
Why even the hype?! Prime 2 and 3 are shit what makes 4 any special?! 1st one is a classic though..

>>381615548
Remember when Arms was "confirmed" 720p right up until people actually got the full game?

>Yeah it's not finished, but that doesn't mean they're going from 720p to 1080p. It just means they'll get rid of the drops.
It doesn't come in 4 months, so why not both?

>>381615561
Because that's not on the menu, you'll get a planet with Skyward Sword time shift mechanic if at all and you'll like it.

>>381613953
>all of them are japaneses

[Cetacean Needed]

>>381615886
>Remember when Arms was "confirmed" 720p right up until people actually got the full game?
No? ARMS was never confirmed for anything, you're thinking of Splatoon 2, which as far as we know is still 720p/540p with DRS

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>>381615259
>Nintendo has never used good hardware
Bullshit faggot.

The N64 was a graphical beast. Nothing on the PS1 or Saturn can touch games like Majora's Mask or Banjo-Kazooie.

The SNES blew the Genesis out of the fucking water in every single way, and the GameCube produced THE best looking game of the 6th gen with Resident Evil 4. It wasn't until the Wii that Nintendo produced shit hardware.

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>>381616168
>you're thinking of Splatoon 2, which as far as we know is still 720p/540p with DRS

Jesus christ, anon. What are you talking about? It was confirmed 1080p/60fps at the last Treehouse event, you silly.

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>these people supporting Tanabe

Look he's definitely a damn sight better than Sakamoto, but he's a total fucking moron. Go back and read the interviews they did with him when Prime 1 was coming out. Almost all the ideas he had were utterly retarded, and if you read the corresponding Retro interviews, they shit on him (in the politest way possible) for throwing wrenches in the project constantly.

>>381616334
The Genesis had a much better processor. And remember, it was meant to compete with the NES and PC Engine.

The fact it could compete with the SNES at all is a miracle.

Sakamoto isn't involved, so I remain optimistic.

>>381616168
>540p with DRS
???

>>381616334
>The N64 was a graphical beast
and it was bottlenecked as shit.

>>381616334
You are exactly correct sir, the superior version of RE4 exists on GameCube

>>381616591
Dynamic Resolution Scaling.
720p/540p are target resolutions, but it dips lower if the framerate can't keep up.

is this a sequel to superior federation force game?

>muh original developpers
go play ReCore you faggot that's where your precious original developpers went

>Tanabe in charge of the game
This is good.
>Retro Studios is not involved in the project
This doesn't make a difference at this point because most of the team that created the original Metroid Prime no longer work there, and new developers at Nintendo have proven themselves in the past.

Sorry, can't join you on your "Everything sucks!" crusade just yet, /v/.

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>>381616695
540p
I'm curious as to where you got this from.

>>381616509

>[cetacean needed]

>>381616591
>and it was bottlenecked as shit.
No, actually it wasn't. Majora's Mask looks better than many PS2 games. The cartridge format was fine and was only a issue because there was no room for CD-quality audio, but from a visual standpoint, it was fine.

>>381616908
In handheld mode. You can determine resolution by counting the jaggies. Just google Splatoon 2 540p

>>381616621
Yep, it's the only way the game should be experienced aside from the Wii version. The PS2 version is such trash. The poly count was fucked into the dirt.

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>>381615297
>conveniently forgetting about Mario vs DK, Chibi Robo and Federation Force

He might was good 6-10 years ago but we're talking about today's Tanabe

https://youtu.be/R5INxySBmDo?t=10m3s

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>>381616962
Here ya go.

There was a rumor when Federaton Forces by Next Level Games came out that Tanabe was not on "good terms" with Retro

http://nintendoeverything.com/rumor-kensuke-tanabe-and-retro-no-longer-on-good-terms-sakamoto-could-be-new-ncl-producer/

>>381615548
>720p with fucking frame drops
It drops from 60 to at most 58.

You're a fucking ass.

>>381617036
OH, right, I think DF mentioned that.

But what about the latest build?

>>381617245
he also produced tropical freeze and it was amazing

>>381616979
>The cartridge format was fine and was only a issue because there was no room for CD-quality audio,
There were game engines that ran shit in MP3 format or so.

The N64's native sound processing was often compromised because Nintendo had this crazy idea the CPU or GPU could do that instead of having a devoted sound chip. A shit business decision to this day, but not many developers understood how to use the memory properly for textures until the damned end of the console's lifespan. Would have been nice if devs were privy to tricks like that beforehand.

Also
>Majora's Mask looks better than many PS2 games.

I mean wow.

>>381613953
Its gonna bomb...HARD! It seems like it will suck so much and the proof is all set up here!

>>381615869
Yeah! Why do people say 4 will be good when we all ready know IT SUCKS HARD?!?

>>381617245
That feeling when 4 is confirmed to suck because of modern Tanabe... DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN!!!!

>>381617456
IT SUPER SUCKED BRO! Stop making excuses!

Frankly the Metroid 2 remake sets off more red flags to me

>Sakamoto getting his hands on the one game he had no original involvement with and holding interviews talking about the opportunities he has to expand the story
>the development team responsible for Castlevania Lords of Shadow and Mirror of Fate making another 30fps melee-centric action game on the 3DS
>super special edition in Europe to coax fans into buying it and accusing non-customers of entitlement/letting the series die

Honestly I just see this going the way of Star Fox Zero, fanfare and pomp leading to a 6.5/10 product.

>>381617289

considering nothing predicted in there ever came to pass, I'm gonna assume it's horse shit.

>>381617538

>melee centric

she can hit enemies with her arm

that's it

>super special edition in Europe to coax fans into buying it and accusing non-customers of entitlement/letting the series die

literally what?

>>381617245
Chibi Robo wasn't a bad game though.

Also, MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE RESORTED TO MAKING A PLATFORMER IF YOU GUYS BOUGHT THE ORIGINAL GAMES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

For fucks sake, Chibi Robo has six goddamn games. Yet nobody bought a single one of them.

>>381617770
>literally what?

The game's getting a special edition bundle in America and a More Special special edition bundle for Europe with added shit.

>>381617538
THIS!!!!!! U ppl say metroid isnt dead well THINK AGAIN!!!!

>>381617770
NA gets a dumb music disk. Europe gets the disk, concept art, and the original Metroid 2.

>>381618484

Yeah, like a billion other games

what the fuck does that have to do with accusing people of entitlement. When did that happen?

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>>381613953
Exciting! I hope it's just as critically acclaimed and loved by the fans as SimCity (2013)!

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>>381618545
>Europe gets the disk, concept art, and the original Metroid 2.

They always get the better stuff. Probably because they're better customers overall. I'm still mad about Fatal Frame 5.

>>381618675
>pic
That is exactly what will happen to MP4 and we all know it now that its confirmed to be horseshits.

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I'll get excited when they give us any actual info.

Unless they announce that it's developed in-house.

>>381618579
>what the fuck does that have to do with accusing people of entitlement. When did that happen?

Metroid fans on social media, 4chan, NeoFAG, Twitter etc pulling the usual "you're not a real fan/letting the series die if you don't mindlessly support this" lecture, not helped by (a) the people still miffed at the fangame remake getting C&D'd, and (b) the creator of said remake saying that shouldn't be used as an excuse to not buy the game.

>>381618838
>new development team
So it will be bad shit then?! These cucker have literally no experience on making games, hence there "new", so why are we hyped!?

Zero hype. Modern Nintendo is garbage. Compare the best games Nintendo has today to games 20 years ago. HUGE decrease in quality. They thought Metroid Prime 3 was a success.

>>381617834
literally I have all of them (even the New Play Control one) but

>Patrol Park was Walmart exclusive, no EU release
>Okaeri, the actual sequel of Chibi-Robo, was JP only
>Photo Finder was trash due to shitty hardware
>Zip Lash was only made because Tanabe thought that making a shit game and selling it with an amiibo was enough

>>381614916


This. Miyamoto literally whipped them into form.

>>381618675

Games like SimCity got shit for really weird anti-buyer decisions and the producers/devs/journalists digging their heels in the ground over said decisions, on top of the gameplay itself being above-average at best. A better comparison would be something like Star Fox Zero, a franchise out of retirement with a lack of recent innovation.

>>381613953
I want to see japs tackle FPS, possibly bring up better movement options. God knows the west can't do it.

>>381618938

oh my god

FANS ARE ACTING LIKE ASSHOLES

what a bold and shocking development

how can I assuage your shattered ego anon?

>>381619060
Retro had no experience when they first made Metroid prime

What's your reaction when the dev team for MP4 turns out to be From Software?

>>381618838
He said a source not a picture.

>>381614916
They were Turok staff, hardly shitters. And really, when was the last time Nintendo shaped any studio into form? Their partnerships always end up with mediocre games lately.

>>381619498
See above.

>>381613953

Honestly no joke no trolling I would of liked a Other M 2 or sequel on better hardware and more fan service.

>>381619618

Splatoon, Breath of the Wild, and Mario Odyssey were primarily new teams, and they seemed to have worked out well for them

>>381619517
Oh great, a sub-30fps with drops game!

Or maybe it'll end up like Steel Battalion Heavy Armor. LITERALLY FUCKING UNPLAYABLE.

>>381619697
>Other M 2

Dumb shill

>>381619123
This this this this this! Thank you based anon for being the few sane people in this thread! We are all anti-hyped for the gay gimmicky cringe game that is Metroid Prime 4, or as it will be called Federation Force 2!

>>381619517
Itll be gearbox or Blizzard probably. The gay Metroid2 remake is all handled by Mercury Steam!

MERCURY STEAM!

>>381619756
>Splatoon, Breath of the Wild, and Mario Odyssey were primarily new teams
And there all shit and bad!

Splatoon is shovelware

BotW is a Ubisoft Towers fest

Mario O is Sonic 06 with a Mario skin

>>381618938
>(b) the creator of said remake saying that shouldn't be used as an excuse to not buy the game.
It really shouldn't. You should be concerned about fucking Mercury Steam and this modernized action shift.

>>381619756
Partnerships, not internal teams.

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>>381619476
>Ask for clarification
>Get mad at the clarification

I don't know what to tell you anon. My gut instinct tells me this looks like a 6.5/10 game.

>>381619886
>It really shouldn't. You should be concerned about fucking Mercury Steam and this modernized action shift.

Yeah, I mentioned that but it was brushed off before. I'm still not sold on the developer pulling a great game out of their ass.

>>381619886

what makes you think MP 4 will be a partnership?

also, Smash 4 was a partnership with Bamco. Intelligent Systems is also third party. Say what you will about Fire Emblem but they've managed to turn that into sales.

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>>381613953
The original Prime team hasn't been at Retro for years now. Shit, some of the core Prime team wasn't even around for Prime 3.

I'm wary, but so long as they have direction and don't go Next Level on the game, it'll at least be a solid Metroid title.

>>381620171

You made it sound like it was something Nintendo had done, shaming fans for not supporting it. I'm sorry I don't sympathize with your struggles with something that happens every day on the internet.

>>381620072
beautiful

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>>381615297
Go away modern Nintendo shillers, 4chan will never be hyped for this garbage shit.

>>381619123
So much this. I'm boycotting this fake garbage.

>>381620262
>what makes you think MP 4 will be a partnership?
Nintendo is spread awfully thin, I'm thinking they'll offload this to someone especially since they don't consider Metroid a big hitter.

>Smash 4 was a partnership with Bamco.
Well, yeah. It was mediocre.

>Intelligent Systems is also third party.
Don't ever recall them being in bad shape, but I never followed them too closely. Haven't they tagged along with Nintendo for like two decades anyway? My point is their recent offloaded titles were mediocre, seems they have a hands off approach now.

>but they've managed to turn that into sales.
With years of Smash wankery and waifus. I can't really consider that their merit.

>>381620756
You don't speak for 4chan. No one does. The fact that you think you do means you're either 1) very very new, 2) underage, or 3) highly stupid/autistic.
Maybe a bit of all 3?

>>381621206
You done messed up now. I was hoping this guy was going to be ignored, that way he realizes he's wasting his/everyone's time.