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Which one will win GOTY?

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Which one will win GOTY?
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>>381601092
BotW. It's the best Zelda game in a while whereas Odyssey likely won't surpass Galaxy.
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>>381601092
arms
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BOTW will be the better game but Odyssey will sell more over the Switch's lifetime.
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Breath of the Wild.

It will influence open world, action/adventure, and Zelda games for years to come. I promise that every even remotely open world game for the next five years will be influenced in some capacity by BotW.

I have no doubt Odyssey will be great, but it will be remembered as a great Mario game, most likely.
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Odyssey is certainly to be better but /v/ wouldn't understand good taste.
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Mario, the fanbase is larger than Zelda
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Horizon Zero Dawn
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>>381601092
Most likely one of them.

It's hard to tell when it comes to Odyssey though given how the game isn't even out yet.
Breath of the Wild is a tested and truly amazing game. One thing one can say about Odyssey though is that it'll most likely have a recency bias in its favour. Provided DLC pack 2 for Breath of the Wild isn't something truly special much like the base game.
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>>381601709
Deluded
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Neither. They both are early access shit with little content. Open world strikes again!
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>>381602129
So what WILL win?
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>>381602129
>early access
wgat
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>>381601092
Both, but BotW will win most of them no matter how GOAT SMO is. BotW will always have more impact because it's an open world game. Mario doesn't have any competitors, he's the one and only, really. The only other platformers are basically made by Nintendo themselves.
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Botw will undoubtedly win it.

And it is so goddamn undeserved.

>tfw only open world games win goty nowadays
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>we'll never get a good solid zelda game again with story, good music, dungeons, and a full adventure experience

Well there's another franchise down the drain.
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>>381602657
Then what a hell did we just get?
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>>381601092
Mario is that "family friendly" game that's good but doesn't win the biggest awards because of it even if it is recognized.
Zelda is the one marketed toward the hardcore community so it is probably going to win.

Other than those two, I don't think there is no competitor with enough quality AND fame to compete, unless that AC is somehow good of course, but I seriously doubt it considering its record.
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Bannerlord
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>>381602795
You got a sandbox game with Zelda slapped over it and they forgot to add actual places to find in their open world.
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>>381602657
This Zelda was the best at being a full adventure experience, the music was good and the story was as good as your average Zelda goes. Dungeons were also pretty well designed but it is true they were too short.
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>any enemy that even blinks in Mario's direction, he can just possess until he jumps it off of a cliff
BOTW will be far superior
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>>381602928
>go back to Zelda 1 roots
>sandbox game with Zelda slapped over it
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>>381602928
>forgot places to find
Nigga wut. Did you even play the game?
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>>381602970
>full adventure experience

Except there was no adventure on this experience. There's no point in exploration if I dont run into actual dungeons to explore or fantastical places. Botw was dragged down by half assed development and likely a stumped budget, or at least a budget aimed towards presentation rather than content. I know a well made game when I see it, and Botw is not one of them.
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>>381603081
Zelda 1 was not a sandbox. It was an action adventure game. An actual sandbox are the old crpgs which were on systems with better specs that can handle the breadth of content they supplied.
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>>381603118
>into actual dungeons to explore or fantastical places
Did you never got off the plateau or something?

>I know a well made game when I see it, and Botw is not one of them
Sorry video game expert, I'm sorry to go against the word of such a wise man.
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>>381603104
You found two things: either a korok mini game or a shrine minigame. And often times, the shrine was either a combat challenge or nothing at all. Kinda retarded to pass up the moment to add something truly captivating like a full fledged dungeon from old zeldas. There's no excuse other than Nintendo got lazy and stopped trying.
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>>381603240
>It was an action adventure game
Just like BotW then. Zelda has always been more open world than not, BotW just took the final step.
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>>381603507
Zelda took ten steps back instead of the final step of having an actual breathing world. How come, after so many fucking years, and a highly rated game to go off of, why the fuck did Nintendo decide to take all the elements of their best zelda games (lttp and Ocarina), then throw them away as if they were not making the games successful? Tell me why the fuck they decided it was a good idea to throw away the very features that made their games the best.
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>>381603381
>You found two things: either a korok mini game or a shrine minigame
You continue proving you didn't play it.
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Got bored of Zelda, Mario just looks like pure fun.
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>>381603817
I dont need to prove shit to you. botw is a bad game. And anyone who makes an open world game in this day and age should kill themselves
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>>381602796
But super Mario galaxy won goty in 2007
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>>381603772
>the very features that made their games the best
Like?

Also, funny you mention Ocarina, because one of the main features it had at the time was the big world to explore. People flipped their shit with just Hyrule field back then.
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>>381603943


>wahhh my contrarian opinion. Wahhh listen REEEeeeeee. Kys.
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>>381603943
you must be one of those new gamers that likes to have choices on how the story goes.
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>>381604043
If you have to ask what Botw is missing that their older games had, then you weren't a zelda player to begin with.
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>>381601092
Mario, because of recency bias
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Mario, because the VGAs are incredibly biased against Japan and they will not tolerate Japan surpassing them in every regard to a genre the west created and popularized (open world). West can't do 3D platforming worth shit so they'll just give it to Mario out of spite for Zelda.

Oh yeah, and Persona 5 will be snubbed in all categories it's nominated for since Horizon will be in those categories as well.
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>>381602129
>early access
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>>381602245
>>381604483
Doesn't come with hard mode
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>>381601092
BoTW though /v/ will say neither of them deserve it
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Woah

Hey guys
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>>381601381
Xenoblade 2 isn't influenced by BotW.

BTFO!
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>>381604852
>>381604474
>Persona 5 will be snubbed in all categories
Good. An overglorified visual novel with an abhorrent plot and even worse characters doesn't deserve to win anything.
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>>381604474
>Persona 5 will be snubbed in all categories
Should win on RPG at least. There is nothing else competing this year.
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>>381601381
Lol there's always someone who says this. It's really not going to happen. Zelda is the one playing catch up here. So fucking cringey how Zelda fanboys try and romanticise BotW as this huge epic comeback in videogames, as if it's fucking swept up the industry and made everyone stop what they're doing or something. It's so cringey.

Look, mate. You're just projecting what you WANT to happen. Because you're a Zelda fanboy. Well, it's not going to happen. There's no big epic comeback for Zelda. Seriously, just stop being a big fucking nappy wearing man-child. There's too many games and and too much opinion in videogames these days.
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>>381605578
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>381601092
Mario will, because it'll be more recent in their minds, as well as more accessible to more people. A ton of the fun of Zelda is in exploration and fun with mechanics and physics, where Mario is more catered and traditional.
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>>381603381
>You found two things: either a korok mini game or a shrine minigame.
As opposed to what?
Either a Gold Skulltula or a hole in the ground? A Link to the Past didn't even have that much and only had caves and holes.
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Zelda will solely because it marked all spots on the current industry fads list. Mario to them would be a "boring" choice because it's Mario.

I fucking loved BoTW and think it should have awards but GOTY awards aren't about a games quality. It's about whatever panders to the judges and audience watching this shit.
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>>381601092
BotW
1) Mario may be more popular, but I think most people can agree that Mario is kiddy, usually unoriginal shit. Mario has a huge record of being the first to do X, but everyone else ends up perfecting X. Most people can agree Zelda games are better than Mario games.
1) 3D Zelda's are usually masterpieces, imo this one was too. Great story as always, some annoying game mechanics this time, but still fun. There were only two problems with it. It SEEMED too short, and empty in that too big and not enough stuff to fill it. But who knows, DLC might fix that.
3) Zelda seemed too short but it actually wasn't. Straight story mode, yes. But all the shrine quests, memory quests, and side quests made it decent length. Plus all the upgrading and koroks. I bought it March 3rd, I would play for 4-12 hours every day and it still took me until like March 28th to finish, and I still have like 700 koroks to find and like 5 outfits to fully upgrade. Usually Zelda only a week to beat, and takes me a month to 100% it.
4) Mario may fuck up. The only difference I see with this one is the hat trick, New York City, and better graphics.
Zelda had new story, new artstyle and graphics, new weapons & items system, new game mechanics, and was fucking huge.

TL;DR
Zelda wins. Mario is doing the same old shit as always, only mario fans and kids will like it. Zelda almost completely recreated itself.
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>>381606883
You've been crafting your bait well I see.
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>>381602657
Twilight Princess was almost as good as Ocarina.
Just a few dungeons short and the music wasn't as good.
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>>381602657
what emu / rom / whatever is this

i want it
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>>381604852
This masterpiece right here.
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The fact that these are both coming out in the same year means that the one that wins is... Us.
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>>381607189
>Twilight Princess was almost as good as Ocarina
And WW was better than both.
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>>381601516
I can't imagine it being worse
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Has a 3d Mario and 3d Zelda game ever come out in the same year before?
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>>381605578
I hope it will be the personal goty, but let's be honest at most it will be the best 2d platformer.

Anyway for me it's botw.
Mario Odissey is shaping up to be the best mario since a while, but botw was just too fucking good.
Now if only they make bigger dungeons next time....
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>>381605718
*yawn*
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>>381607546
Yes, but only on Japan. Wind Waker and Sunshine both were released the same year there, Wind Waker wasn't released until next year outside Japan.
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FUCK NINTENDO

It's quite obvious that Zelda needs to win.
It will reveal huge anti-Japanese dev bias if the press don't shower that game with GOTY awards. Nothing else coming out this year is even close.
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>>381601162
>BotW. It's the best Zelda game in a while

Well, since A Link to the Past.
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>>381607857
That sounds like a great year. Wish it was still like that
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>>381605513
Horizon is an open world action RPGs with crafting and a female lead, no way it loses to Persona 5 at the VGAs. The only Japanese support they give is to Kojima, because Geoff and Kojima are butt buddies and because he's the most "western" jap dev.
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>>381607968
25 years isn't a while, Arin?
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>>381601092
zelda, but odyssey will be the better game
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>>381601381
>It will influence open world, action/adventure, and Zelda games for years to come. I promise that every even remotely open world game for the next five years will be influenced in some capacity by BotW.
you're such a fucking redditor. botw innovated nothing.
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>>381607973
zelda and mario come out in 2017 too
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Zelda will win.

Rockstar has to put in something like a chemistry engine into RDR2 now because of BOTW. Remember they were so confident, then when Zelda came out they were all muh delays?
Yeah they know they're gonna be underwhelming if they didn't work on it harder.
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>>381608136
Those were good though
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>>381601092
It'd be basically impossible to top BotW this year, but if any game could do it, it'd be Mario.

Still, I think what it'll come down to is Mario being an amazing game with fun and polish in spades, but I can't see it impressing me the way BotW did.
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>>381608071

Sorry - I completely got the title wrong.

Since A Link Between Worlds.
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>an actual good game
>kiddy gimmicky shit

gee, I wonder
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>>381608119
lol he mad nigga
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>>381607968
>ALttp

I still find it the most dull and drab of the 2-d Zeldas sans Oracle of Ages. Maybe its just me but I much preffered LA and ALBW over it.
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>>381608213
you must have pretty shit taste to rate WW over BotW... or any Zelda game except SS
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>>381608353
that's cos it created the formula
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>>381608013
Horizon shouldn't even compete on RPG category, and Ni no Kuni already won if my memory doesn't fails me.
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>>381608146
maybe it'll be just as good but don't want to compete with zelda for this year's goty
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>>381608372
Botw really is that bad though. Makes skyward sword almost look good by comparison
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>>381608723
What makes your opinion more valid than anyone else's?
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>>381602886
never ever
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>>381604474
>>381608013
We will see how biased they are this year, there is practically nothing decent from the western market this year besides Horizon, which will compete against Zelda of all things, and hopefully Wolfenstein.
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>>381608723

I guess I never thought of it like that. Probably because I'm not buttfucking retarded.
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>>381601092
Odyssey will be the better game, but critics creamed themselves over BOTW and it'll win GOTY because it's open world
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BotW is not just GOTY, but GOTD.
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>>381608986
Nah you're just a normie who fell for the open world meme
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>>381602502
Overwatch won GotY last year though and i believe Hearthstone won GotY when it released as well.
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>>381607394
WW was absolutely shit. Fuck that game and fuck all its dick riders
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>>381601709
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>>381609290
Now those are some undeserved GotYs
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BOTW is so due for a hype backlash
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>>381609237
>>381609330
You still haven't told me what makes your opinion more valid than anyone else's.
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>>381601092
Daily BotW hate threads even 4 months after launch lead me to believe that it'll take GOTY no contest.
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>>381609427
>caring about validation on the internet
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>>381601092
Odyssey just looks too good.
BotW might get the higher metacritic score, but Odyssey will be GOTY
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>>381601092
Depends what one the normies latch onto the most
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>>381609473
Then why bother trying to convince others that BotW is a bad game in the first place?
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>>381609290
>Hearthstone won GotY
It didn't, Dragon Age won that year.
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>>381601092
Zelda but Odyssey is the better game. BOTW is fun but loses its luster after the 20 hour mark.
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>>381609532
Why doesn't anyone bother trying to explain why it's good?
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>>381605513
Xenoblade 2 if it comes out early November.

Also Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.

Pretty sure Nintendo will win Developer of the year based on large amount of exclusives alone.
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>>381609434
This, the anal anguish alone cements its legendary status.
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>>381608582
That's just if Rockstar really really cared about GOTY awards. They obviously don't, nobody does except numale devs.

They just recognize that Zelda pushed a new standard of open world and in order not to look dumb they delayed the game to get that nextgen physics and chemistry engines in.
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>>381601092

>the witcher III was last year's GOTY.

Who cares.
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>>381609684
Because I don't care about validation on the internet.
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>>381607394
>WW dungeon camera guide.webm

Also TP was too hand holdy to be even on par with OoT.
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>>381609593
>Dragon Age won that year.
Fuck that year. Shadow of Mordor should never have won vs Bayonetta 2 for Action GOTY and Dragon Age Cisquisition should never have won GOTY period.

That year was Bayo's year and they didn't give it votes because muh sexism.
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>>381609743
I'm really struggling to imagine how you'd implement a chemistry engine in what is basically a third person shooter and have it be at all meaningful. Sure every game that doesn't have lightning start fires that get extinguished by rain will look like a technological dicklet, but that kind of thing really only becomes meaningful in an action-adventure like Zelda.
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>>381609708
I forgot about Xenoblade, that looks good but still a bit more generic story and artwise compared to Persona, I suppose it could still be a competitor though.
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>>381606883
>mario fans

why do people keep talking about "mario fans" like they're anything special nigga everyone likes mario
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>>381609290
To be fair, what GOTY material we had last year?
There was DOOM maybe but what else?
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>>381608372
Even at its worst WW is still my fifth favorite Zelda
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Why is Nintendo so powerful?
How come they release the TWO only serious goty contenders?

What is everyone else even doing?
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>>381601381
> a game that doesn't have a difficulty setting or rebindable controls is game of the year

Has gaming hit rock bottom?
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>>381610251
I feel like this thread is forgetting how much casuals expect Destiny 2 solely because of marketing, it could easily win just with that.
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>>381610251
Skyrim reremastered deluxe special is coming out soon for the Switch, GOTY right there from Bethesda.
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>>381610423
So it hit rock bottom in 2011 with Dark Souls, apparently?
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>>381610423
Nah, nothing can be worst than fucking The Walking Dead game winning GOTY on 2012.
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>>381610430
did wow win in any year as goty
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>>381610719
Nope.
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>>381610619
I feel like there was a cut off at some point where big budget games have no excuse not to have difficulty settings and rebindable controls...I mean it's the current year and Zelda doesn't let me sprint by toggling the joystick?

Am I the only one who thinks its retarded as fuck how you need to press the buttons in order to do a sprint jump while also moving the camera? at least on the wii u , never played switch.
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>>381610423
>difficulty settings
Shit
>>381610423
>rebindable controls
Hello PCluck
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>>381610251
More like this is what Nintendo's been doing for the past three years when the WiiU was left to die.
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>>381608353
>I still find it the most dull and drab of the 2-d Zeldas

I completely agree and I find more people are coming to this viewpoint.

>>381608431
But LoZ is a much more interesting game. LttP lacks the feeling of going on a journey thought an unknown, dangerous world that the NES games offer, and lacks the atmosphere and more elaborate quests of games after it. The basic sword play is also incredibly annoying, in that the hitboxes feel wonky.
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>>381609846
Open world genre of the century confirmed
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>>381611119
If it takes you more effort and brainpower to fill in the captcha than to construct your post, don't even bother posting.
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>>381610251
odyssey isn't even out yet

and when was the last time nintendo released a game as good a botw?
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>>381605718
The rest of the industry has barely been able to 'catch up' to OoT in the first place.
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>>381607906
only right opinion
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>>381611178
>sega
>creates console that has a controller with a screen on it
>ends up cucking itself and becoming a subservient little third party publisher forever after and the old ceo of the company literally dies because of the shame, literally look it up

>nintendo
>creates console where the controller has a screen
>fails massively and one of the old ceo of Nintendo or something also dies out of the cuck shame, is forced to start making phone games
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>>381611105
>games have no excuse not to have difficulty settings
Fuck off casual
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>>381611627
There's no excuse. Imagine those " people " or children who play on the default regular difficulty setting on games like oblivion or any elder scrolls game. Fucking imagine if that was the only difficulty setting and we had to actually play that garbage easy shit. THATS zelda botw in a nut shell.
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>>381612069
I'd love to watch you play a fighting game online for the first time.
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NieR:Automata IS GOTY
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>>381601092
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>>381605578
My nigga
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>>381606883
>Mario is doing the same old shit as always, only mario fans and kids will like it.
nigger they are doing something actually different with the franchise for the first time since galaxy 1
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>>381610048
RDR is set in a lot of desert. You could make John stuff his pockets with warmers for the cold desert nights if he chooses to do night raids or dress lightly in the day. In the event it rains, he might slip from slippery places, etc.
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>>381611314
Because nobody else makes games like that anymore?
Genre is dead. Closest thing is like Darksiders
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>>381605578
good games can't win goty though
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Xenoblade 2 is coming.
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>>381612264
too animey
too videogamey
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>>381612190
love to try to see u fight me irl m8
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>>381613180
Not videogamey enough more like. Only thing anyone cared about was the (half-finished) story and 2B's two buns.
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>>381613510
shut your mouth bitch
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Honestly? Prey deserves it more than Zelda. Nier A Tomato deserves it more too. Persona 5 too. Yakuza 0 too. Maybe even Hollow Knight. Cuphead is going to be godtier.

Yeah, fuck BotW.
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>>381601092
Neither. There are tons of games that are or will be better than those 2.
Yakuza 0
Nier: Automata
Night in the woods
Persona 5
Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
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if you disagree, you never played it.... and probably don't own a ps4
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>>381613015
>anymore?

Zelda-like games have always been super rare outside of Zelda. There was nothing to die because devs rarely attempt it in the first place, and the few that do are pretty much always produce something much more linear and structurally straightforward than the actually notable Zelda games.

Dark Souls is the one game in that mold that I honestly feel shares the same level of ambition.
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>>381603772
What a great comic, Can you be so kind as to tell me who the creator is?
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>>381613893
>Night in the woods
Genuinely kill yourself
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>>381613510
>Only thing anyone cared about was 2B's two buns
fixed it
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>>381614017
>and the nin64 item which nintendo kiddies got removed from the game cause it offended them
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>>381606556
As opposed to having a well-designed, linear progression in dungeons and story?
You know, good video game design?
Not just "Here's a big world and some barebone mechanics to encourage [emergent gameplay], now fuck off" design.
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>>381604662

>Super Mario
>Hard
>Ever
I know it's summer, but at least TRY to hide your age.
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>>381613823
>Prey
lol
>Persona 5
2016. Persona 5 doesn't even come close to BotW and is arguably the worst game on this list of yours.
>Yakuza 0
2015, but I agree it's better than BotW
>Nier A Tomato
GOTY is a tossup between this and Zelda.
>Hollow Knight
Good game but it's not better than BotW
>Cuphead
nah
2017 is an alright year but don't pretend most of the games released can hold a candle to BotW. It's that good.
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>>381613974
Ah, there it is. The comparison to Souls.
You're a fucking retard.
>More linear and structurally straightforward than notable Zelda games
>what are Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword
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>>381614006
>If the game isn't open world it's clearly bad!
Triple A snob.
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>>381614153
What makes Zelda more deserving than these games? What sets it apart?
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>>381609846
keep telling yourself that
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TEAM KIRBY CLASH DELUXE GOTY 2017
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>>381614449
>read steam reviews
>it's all 25-30 year old men talking in overdramatic tones about how the game made them "feel"
Embarrassing, if you like Night In The Woods you are a failure in life.
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>>381614643
Different strokes for different folks. I enjoy the freedom of the open world and how creative the game lets me be. The only other game that has scratched that itch this gen is MGSV. I'll admit that the way the game handles exploration has blinded many to it's faults but generally speaking, this game has led to countless hours exploring the vast, post-apocalyptic Hyrule that has had love and care poured into it. Yakuza 0 is the only other game this year that I've spent more than 3 hours playing.
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>>381614643
if i'm being honest i don't really know. i played the game ad nauseum and after i stopped i felt like something was missing in my life. i guess it's cause it's fun.
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>>381615123
>botw lets you be creative
Ah gees....not at all son not at all.... fall out 4 lets you be creative- botw lets you have no difficulty setting and no rebindable controls.
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>>381614980
Get fucking real, anon.
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>>381615312
Well god fucking damn, maybe you should just go download the original Doom and never have to play another video game ever again.
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>>381615959
idk what to say...if you like botw that means you like playing a game thats easy as fuck....designed to be played by children and adults alike....one difficulty fits all= casual as fuck.....games are meant to be played by men to toughen them up for the upcoming race war and this means playing every game on max difficulty. max difficulty is code for prepare for race war white man.
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>>381616237
I'm glad this shitpost thread lived long enough for this gem to emerge. Thanks for the pasta, kiddo.
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>>381616385
do you think its a coincidence these japanese games dont have difficulty settings? nintendo is infamous for trying to make weak white men. microsoft and bethesda as american devs at least try to train us for the race war.
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>>381601092
got your GOTY right here
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>>381616716
And what about rebindable controls? What do those have to do with the race war?
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>>381616756
customization is akin to individualism, something whites * slavs not included * are known for and what we draw our power from.
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>>381616839
Please never stop posting. My sides are in outer space.
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>>381616729
Wonder how Sonic Team is feeling right now.
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>>381616839
...what?
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>>381601092

I'll be suprised if the VGA's recognize either of them

Have you forgotten what they did back 2014?

All those Nintendo games and they chose Bayonetta 2 at the GOTY contender

2015 they chose Mario Maker for the sake of having a Nintendo game when Splatoon should've been the nominee

They are going to butcher it, mark my words
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>>381618840
That's because those are the right choices from each year.
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>>381601092
Odyssey will be a 99. BotW is tops in terms of open world design, while SMO will be tops in terms of 3D platformers. I think SMO will be way better in its category than BotW will be, but Open World games are more relevant to today's tastes.

Odyssey will score higher because it will have objectively nothing to complain about in such a niche genre, but BotW's impact will make it GOTY.
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