>ITT: fuck you i hated it

Baldur's Gate 2.

>tfw like metroidvania in general but don't even like super metroid

Super Metroid is one of my all time fav games, not I understand anon.

For me it's LoZ OoT and FF7. Can't stand them and I've given them numerous chances.

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Good game, just not for me.

i don't get it what's the point of just posting a game you dislike

>>381595897
FF7 is trash as fuck. I've given it multiple tries on PS1 and even bought a cart for the NES and tried it that way. Nope.avi, shits so bad.

Any MOBA ever + CSGO

Dead Space 1.

2 is the only good game in the series.

>>381596038
because it's games that people will typically give you shit for hating

like you're not allowed to say that you don't like something and you need to conform

it's a way to vent frustration I guess

>>381595383
>He doesn't understand why Metroid can't crawl

>>381595383
alright man, just know that you have a bad opinion.

>>381595383
I don't understand the appeal of Metroid at all. There are very few interesting challenge gauntlets or puzzles to solve involved in the exploration. It's just finding the right room when you have the right power-up and proceeding further.

>>381595383
It's okay to admit you're trash at the game, OP.

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This feels like an early access survival game

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First person shooters/anything.

I fucking hate how shitty the movement/FoV is in 1st person view.

some people can't appreciate greatness.

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Shitty controls and no creative worlds

>>381595383
It's blisteringly difficult

>>381595383
Get off of 4chan, Dobson.

>>381597135
This. Only playable with mods.

>>381595383

Metroid Prime
Red Dead Redemption
Ocarina of Time

I just couldn't enjoy these games very much.

>>381596202

Funny, I was gonna mention Dead Space 2 in this thread. That game was just fucking shit.

And Dead Space 1 is goat tier you stupid fuck go KYS.

>>381597814
Super Metroid is not difficult by any means.

>>381597135
>>381597909

>I literally got my anus raped by the carpark bandits in Cordon and ragequit and haven't touched the game since

It's okay anon, I am sure the butthurt has subsided by now right? You will get better at the game eventually.

>>381595383
>ITT give me (You)s, the thread

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I don't usually hate anything since I like to broaden myself to things I'm not used to, but if there's one series I just can't get into, that's gotta be fucking Fire Emblem.

God, what a miserable pile of boring games. I try so hard to get interested in the story and plot, I've even tried to replay some games again just to give them another chance, but then I realize it's all clichés after clichés with a pinch of Japanese tropes here and there sugarcoated as a plot, with characters that makes me want to just skip dialogue just to get on with it.

I wish I could say the series interests me, but it simply doesn't. Maybe I'm just not a fan of sRPGs in general or maybe I'm not a fan of the whole setting nor the characters (since I do feel that way more often than I should), but damn, man.

>>381597135
Seriously.
I've tried both SoC and CoP and I just can't play for more than 15 minutes before completely zoning out.

>>381598763
I think some games you can only get into if you're the type of person who likes anime-for-anime's-sake, aka weeb as fuck

FE is a big culprit. I think it's generic weeb trash and one of the primary reasons I can't take opinions on this board seriously

Wipeout. I wanted to like the series but they aren't that fun. I've played the original up to pulse.

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too shallow and simple for me to enjoy it, even for a mobile game.

>>381597814
There's literally nothing difficult whatsoever in that game. The amount of upgrades you get makes everything trivial if you're willing to just look around.

>>381595514
This one I don't get the love for. Irenicus is your generic "I was wronged time to be a giant asshole to everyone" villain.

>>381597135
Agreed, although I bought it on release when it was a total piece of shit.

>>381598949
I've only played SoC for a bit and can only keep playing if I have music on. It's so fucking dull and there's no story to keep me invested

>>381599017

>I played the entire series and I hate it all

Then why did you keep playing it holy fuck anon.

>>381596231
Exactly. They don't even attempt to refute what you even say about it.
>>381596805
EXACTLY. It is just time consuming, not challenging. Other games may take time to beat due to challenges they present, but scouring areas isn't at the top of my list of riveting things to do in a game.

>>381599017
I'm a fan of the series but it definitely isn't for everyone.

>>381599140
because i wanted to give it a chance?

>>381599263
1, XL, 3, 64, Fusion, Pure, Pulse... (I might be missing some)
That's a lot of chances. Can I ask why you put so much effort into a niche series?

>>381599263

I'm not a huge Wipeout fan, but I did play Wipeout 2097 back in the day on my PS1 as a kid and found it really fun. But hasn't there been a shit ton of sequels since? How many games from 1 to Pulse? How long did it take you to figure out if it wasn't for you or not?

I'd say playing just one game (or 2 if the fanbase acknowledges the one you played has aged) is enough to give a series a chance.

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>>381595383

>>381599616
>>381599612
I was curious to see if it improved in later games. How is the omega collection?

>>381599187
>EXACTLY. It is just time consuming
But anon it's the series that helped define speedrunning? Metroid is literally the definition of not time consuming

FF tatics and srpg related

>>381599965
Yeah, I am sure everyone speed runs Super Metriod on their first blind play through.

>>381599905
Dope if you're into Wipeout, though the OST is a bit fucked depending who you ask. It's no replacement for a proper sequel but imo it's the definitive game in the series.

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>>381595383
related

>>381600119
SM in particular is very condensed, 100% on a blind play through couldn't possible take more than 8-10 hours

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im sorry I just couldn't get into it, fuck you /v/ for making me waste 10 dollars

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>>381595383
Gameplay is by far Platinum's worst, quest design it atrocious, and good god is the open world so unfun to traverse. People claim that it gets good once your reach the second route but that wasn't true at all. You'll be going through the exact same monotonous gameplay, quests, and world with the only payoff being a few more crumbs of information regarding the story and lore with every consecutive playthrough.

By far my biggest buyers remorse this year.

>>381600249
Yes, and most of that time is just walking around trying to explore the map to see where you cannot go and where you can get an item so you can progress past the place you couldn't go before. That isn't engaging.

>>381600403
you should see a physician immediately regarding your acute taste-deficiency

>>381600403
Same here man. It's like they took the worst aspects of metroid and dark souls and blended it all into a punishing, tedious, overwrought mess. I think the only other game I've hated more this year is The Surge.

>>381598949
once you get out of hobo phase, when you get to the bar the game is a lot better

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I would post reasons why but they would just be ignored and people would ask me for pictures of my ps4

>>381600616
Fair enough. I'm definitely a bit blind to the series' faults, I've beaten SM alone at least 30 times since its release.

>>381599121
Yeah main story in Baldur's Gate 2 isn't very good. It's still the best generic fantasy adventure RPG though.

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any pre-World Super Mario game.
they were objectively normalfag trash

>>381600702
The 80s-tier conversation system and muddled objective management don't exactly help either.

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Blood Borne.

It just seems like it took everything good about the Souls formula out. Course none of the game have been as good as demons

>>381600782
DaS is just DeS but more open
DaS2 is just DaS but they overcomplicated every little thing
BB is just DaS but they simplified every little thing
And DaS3 is just DaS

>>381600062
while I liked FF tactics when it came out, I simply cannot stand that game anymore

at this point I don't even get why people still care for it

Why does no one ever have an actual refute for when someone says they don't like metroid? It's baby's first metroidvania

>>381595383
I disagree with your opinion

>>381597814
We have found the worst gamer on /v/

>>381601081
It's a pretty straightforward formula, you either like it or you don't. Not much to refute.

>>381600610
I'm sorry anon but it sounds like you bought it mistakenly believing it was a platinum game, while its actually a yoko taro game which platinum offered to help with.

>>381597814
wat
I'm seriously terrible at vidya and I had no issues with it

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>Boring overworld
>drab environments
>Uninteresting characters
>Lame sidequests

Same goes for Oblivion
3>>4>>>>>>>>New Vegas
Morrowind>Skyrim>>>>>Oblivion

>>381600916
World is where I stopped caring for Mario in general, I'd much rather replay 1-3 including the 2 knockoff.

I did play SM64 anyway but that was my last mario, haven't touched any of the others since.

>>381600403
>knockback when hitting enemies

Yes, this is sure to make platforming fun.

>>381601263
>I'm not the only one
The whole cowboy theme was lame as fuck too

>>381601273
Mainline Marios:
World > 64 = 3 > Galaxy 2 > the rest > Sunshine

I think Super Metroid is one of the best games ever but desu without the nostalgia of a childhood obsession I wouldn't even like playing it now.

>>381601152
Yeah but what is the appeal?

>>381595383
my parents bought me metroid fusion when i was a child for one of my bdays and i didnt like it

still feel guilty to this day, absolutely no idea what happened to the game cart, think i literally only played it for 15 mniutes or something

worst part is the game looks like it mightve been okay now

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>>381597657

It's a great game but 50% of the levels look like wooden blocks on stereoids.

Half Life 2.
I hated how boring it all was. The first game was able to keep me interested throughout though.

>>381601480
Of Metroidvanias? I guess the appeal is discovering abilities that let you do more discovering. Like I said, pretty straightforward. You either like going to new places and getting stronger in that loop or you don't.

>>381600916
World is more normalfag than 1/3 though

>>381601613
No, I mean Super Metroid in particular
It seems really barebones for a metroidvania to me

>>381601604
I thought it had some fun bits at the time
It's trash now though

>>381597657
>shitty controls
Come on nigga

>>381601189
I bought it because people on /v/ were praising it as the next coming of Jesus. You're right though, I should've expected a Yoko Taro game. A disaster of a video game with a few novel ideas that aren't executed nearly well enough to carry the rest of the baggage.

Kirby Planet Robobot just seems like an uncreative mess with very little new content

>>381601317
there's a charm that cancels that. The knockback is actually useful since most enemies walk towards you, and backing away manually would make you attack in the wrong direction.

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Proves that making games open world can make them a million times more empty and shitty than if they were just a standard campaign mode.

It's a massive desert with almost nothing to do, wow so fun and IMMERSIVE.

Amen OP

>>381595514
I have no idea why this game is so shilled (among other RPG's here) Baldur's Gate 1 is better.
>>381598593
Don't project your ineptitude on anyone other than yourself.

>>381601954
Funny because this is like the only open world game that isn't an RPG that I REALLY enjoyed

>>381601681
Best implementation of abilities (Speed boots, shine spark, stacking beams) with some pretty cool unique shit (special bomb abilities), rock solid map/progression, best soundtrack, has the richest atmosphere imo

>>381601954
Everything about this game is so fucking bad. Even the story is bad. John Marston murders half of Mexico for his prostitute wife and retarded son and after destabilizing an entire country and ascending a lunatic to power and then rampaging across American territory slaughtering every man he encounters in supposed to feel bad the government killed him.

There are people I know that fucking cried at this shit. What the fuck.

>>381598763
Fuck really? I thought it was only the modern ones that were so weeby. are the old ones really as anime as Conquest?

>>381601954
>/v/ complains endlessly about repetitive open world games that are devoid of content and interactivity
>this rubbish gets a free pass

I'll never understand this fucking board.

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The combat with the Djinns is cool but way too easy, way too much fucking dialogue for how simple the plot is and the emoticons and "choices" in it just slow it down even more. Puzzles are mostly just pushing stuff around. I can see myself liking this if I played it when I was younger and it was one of my first JRPGs but it just felt really shallow with how many I've played.

I love the soundtrack though, I'll give it that.

>>381595383
Every time I see this game it feels so atmospheric and the idea of being alone on a distant planet is like a dream come true in a video game, but I'm ashamed to admit I have never played any Metroid game.

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>>381595383

Fallout 1 sucked me into its world like no other game before or since. Fallout 2 was actively hostile to my attempts to immerse myself.

>>381602917
I felt the same, I never finished 2 actually

>>381602868
Super > Prime = Zero Mission > Fusion > etc > Other M
If you have a PC, 3DS, GC, or Wii you have no excuse, you'll be able to play at least one of these

Ocarina of Time

B o r i n g

>>381603034

I have, twice. I had to force myself both times.

>>381602695

It's because it's a console exclusive and they need something to make "mustards" jealous about.

RDR was just a straight up bad game. Got it on my PS3 on release. Fell for the hype hook line and sinker. This was the game that redpilled me on AAA shit, empty open worlds, and hype.

>>381600610
>gameplay is by far Platinum's worst
Somebody didn't play Ninja Turtles. Or Korra. Or Star Fox.

>>381603771
Anything shitty about Zero's gameplay needs to be directed solely towards Miyamoto and his team. Platinum only helped with certain assets.

>>381603973
Irrelevant. It's still a Platinum game that plays significantly worse than Nier.

>>381603124
As soon as I get a controller for my PC, which will be very soon, I'll try playing Super Metroid at night with headphones on.

>>381597657
>Shitty controls
Are you for real? Mario 64 controls are an ideal 99% of games fail to meet.

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I don't get it. I hate the combat and I hate the writing. Not a fan of the aesthetic either, but I'll admit that one's my fault since it's right there on the cover.

Literally any Zelda game. I just don't get it

>>381604671
>any Zelda game
But a lot of the games are entirely different, it's a series with a lot of variety
There's no way you could think 2 is the same as LttP and the same as OoT and the same as BotW

>>381596805
>There are very few interesting challenge gauntlets or puzzles to solve involved in the exploration.

Only the prime series has "puzzles"

>It's just finding the right room when you have the right power-up and proceeding further.

That's only metroid 1 which literally is a maze. Metroid after that directs the player and upgrades them like any other game with powerup progression. You usually get powerups after bosses.

It's basically a non-linear run and gun game. A guess the appeal over a linear game is you have to find which direction to go next. The "good" part is rethinking old areas with new items, the best example being the ice beam. But there's really not enough stuff like that DESU. Ever since super we've been getting colored doors and special blocks instead of spacial reasoning.

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>>381596071
>for the NES
>nope.avi

>>381605179
Fine, here are the ones I've played:
LoZ
LTTP
OoT
WW
TP
SS
BoTW

None of them ever grabbed me

>why did you play all these games if you hate it
~2 hours each on emulators, only to try to understand the hype. I never did.

>>381595383
Ah okay well a lot of people loved it. Makes ya think

>>381599187
>EXACTLY. It is just time consuming, not challenging.

Metroid isn't that time consuming though. If they hide the way to go, it's usually in that same room and you'll spend a few seconds checking surfaces. The games very rarely dead end you.

I mean there is getting stuck stuck. But I'm talking about moment to moment.

>>381601681
It is until you learn technical skills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNL8rdn00IU

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Takes fucking forever to get anything done
And its not just all the talking and cutscenes, the places are too big for how fast you can move.
I understand why people love it, but to me, it doesnt hold a candle to 2D Zelda like ALttP and Oracles/DX

everything about Overwatch, still hating it

>>381597814

Jesus, don't ever play Fusion.

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Sorry guys, I guess JRPGs just aren't for me. I couldn't get into it.

>>381606448

I played it and it's a solid 8/10 but nothing more.

clearly lacks depth and is linear as fuck

>>381606448
Shitty battle system, shitty plot. The only people who give a shit anymore are nostalgia-blinded. gr8 ost tho

>>381602771

Golden Sun fan here, I can understand your complaints, to be honest, this game's not for everyone, it's either a "you love it or hate it" especially with the kind of long-winded dialogue it has. I did play it when I was younger by the time it released, so nostalgia plays a trick in that. Still, it's a very "basic" RPG with a interesting Djinn/summon system, even if it does come with the hindrance of making the battles overtly easy. I appreciated it for what it was and the artwork/sprite work, which pushed the GBA hardware.

I'm not sure if you ever tried Golden Sun 2, but it starts with you being in Felix's spot. You only find the original crew much later. It's not much different since it's a sequel.

I'd say to not bother with Dark Dawn. The game takes away a lot of the freedom the original two had after a certain point, which was a honest to god slap in the face to me at least. Neither the original crew's descendants interested me in the slightest. That early beginning is enough to make you pin point the entirety of it as THAT PART.

>>381595383
Skyrim. That game gets gloated to high heaven and I don't really see it as warranted.

>>381595383
After playing Zero Mission and Fusion, Super just feels so bad in terms of controls and Samus's movement and responsiveness.

>>381607854
I have the opposite opinion, I prefer SM. ZM and Fusion are a bit snappier but it's a trade-off, I feel like they have no weight to their movement and can't move as quickly.

>>381605230
>But there's really not enough stuff like that DESU
There's no need to yell.

>>381608523
Yeah Samus does feel more weighty in Super, but there's also stuff like how slow her arm cannon fires that's just inherently unsatisfying compared to the GBA games.

>>381602460
It sounds like he only played modern ones.

Kills everything I love GSC for, doesn't add anything new I care about, and any script they didn't cross-reference the original for is stilted as fuck in the English release. Only good thing is how they cleaned up Kanto a bit, but it still isn't enough.

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>>381609079
are the older ones better? I played conquest and awakening and while I enjoyed the gameplay, I thought the characters and stories were mediocre and brought down the experience a bit

>>381602917
>>381603034
Same. I can't put my finger on why either.

>>381600629
>blended it all into a punishing, tedious, overwrought mess
Jesus Christ anon, Hollow Knight isn't hard, come on, and the levels aren't that big...

>>381604437
The reason I liked it so much was that it was a breath of fresh air to the genre. The combat took a while to get into, but it has a lot of customization that keeps it interesting. Music is good, though subject to taste, as are the graphics. The story is typical Squeenix off-the-wall stupid at times, but at least it had a neat setting. Too bad you didn't enjoy it. It's easily top 5 material on the system in my book.

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>>381609276
The best part was the modernization of the gameplay systems and the fact that you could get the gym leaders' phone numbers and re-fight them occasionally. Pokewalker was cool too; I got a surfing and a flying Pikachu.

>>381609560
you still have the animu portraits for the most part, but (excluding FE8 Sacred Stones) there's a lot of realistic political conflict in all of them. Also, the units have a much more fluid personality than the newer ones

>>381609560
I think so. The older stories aren't mind blowing stuff, but they aren't bogged down by stupidity and anime cliches nearly as much. They're very simple stories told well.

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>>381595383
Unironically liked the first one
two was meh
but this was just a goddamn trainwreck.
Absolutely dreadful to play and never even bothered to finish my first playthrough. It has achieved meme status with my brother and I where i occasionally ask "yo wanna finally finish that co-op campaign?"

I didn't hate Bully, but it is severly overrated. A gimmicky, unpolished minigame collection where the openworld aspect feels tacked on and barren. The only more polished gameplay aspect is the combat, wich is incredibly simplistic. The music, setting, characters and general atmosphere were admirable but couldn't save the game as a whole for me.

I haven't gotten all that far, but Rune until now is incredibly boring.


>>381597251
Have you tried playing older PC fps games? >100 fovs are the rule and movement generally just as important as the shooting mechanics.
I had the same back when i played battlefield 1942 as a retarded kid and played goldeneye timesplitters and halo. Once i tried og doom on sourceports & quakelive when it came out and cranked up that fov and tried lower sensitivities i can't get enough of them.

>>381610138
It had some nice soundtracks. DKC 3 was superior in every way.

>>381606147
to each his own eh
I've played all the 2d Zelda games, and the only ones I occasionally think of playing again are Minish Cap and, for some reason, Phantom Hourglass (probably because it was the second zelda game i owned and played)

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>>381595383
Hated Terra
Hated Celes
HATED Locke
Hated Kefka

Edgar and Setzer are pretty good though

>>381610262
Up to date mechanics are cool too, yeah. I don't like the method of rematches HGSS does, unless you consult a guide or comb every area of the game multiple times daily you aren't going to get all the numbers, and even then you have to call them at certain times for the rematches on top of that. I'd rather just have it like Emerald with everyone automatically being in Match Call and ready for rematches after the credits, or even Platinum with the simple daily sets.

>>381610974
Fair enough. I'd only played G/S and Diamond before HG/SS so I don't have that reference to other systems. The wealth of new features on top of the old games plus the interaction between it and D/P coupled with my nostalgia really put HG/SS on a pedestal for me.

>>381610935
Agreed. I played it for the first time recently and I can't tell why anyone would like it more than 5,7,or 3

Can't hate on Sabin though

>>381611569
Yeah Sabin is alright as well

>>381611569
>Would like it more than 5
you're my nigger

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There are so many things wrong/bad/horrible with this game I could write a thesis on it.

I can't believe I got tricked into buying it in a sale a while ago. Please, if you want a metroidvania get Ori or Hollow Knight. I vehemently despise this game despite going into it with the highest hopes.

La-Mulana

Essential "it's good because it's hard"-core schlock for tryhards.

>>381612930
Just looking at gameplay video I instantly rejected it

It looks like talented artists deliberately made something that was hard to look at. It's ugly as fuck and hurts my eyes.

>>381612930
Finally someone said it. The guy who made this game has no idea what makes a Metroidvania game good.

>>381595383
Super Metroid is absolute perfection.

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DOOM 1 and 2 are awesome
DOOM 3 ruined the DOOM formula
Brutal DOOM is frankensteined together by a flaming faggot and every DOOM fan hate him, while it used some good elements (stolen from others) it's worst feature was what made the grounds for the gameplay of nuDOOM.
Gone is the exploring and tactical maps, replaced with corridors that lock when spawns of demons comes in waves.

It's not literally shit, it's not figuratively shit, it's Shit in binary code that is 30GB Megaturdxture, and 50GB HALO nobody asked for.

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>>381595383
Devil Survivor Overclocked.
I really didn't like it, I have no clue why people prefer it over 2.
It's not even actually "hating" it. I just found it to be less engaging and kind of boring.

>>381602917
I don't know why but in Fallout 2 I get random encounters every fucking second when fast traveling, never happened to me in FO1

>>381595383

Monster Hunter. lack of QoL doesn't mean its difficult

>>381597814
Super Metroid was dumped on by reviewers at the time for being too fucking easy. This is how low gaming has come.

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All 3 of them, including Bloodborne. Fortunately my cousin is a big Dark Souls fanboy so I get to play them an extensive amount of time every time I come over. I've tried numerous times to like these, I've played them for hours, but I just don't get it. And I say this is as someone who loves Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts. People tell me it's the modern Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts, but I just don't fucking see it. It's hard yeah, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts or Ghosts 'n Goblins.

>>381614650
Have you tried the newer ones? 3 onwards they put in a lot of improvements to the QoL, 4U is pretty accessible

>>381597814

Are you sure you're not referring to Metroid NES?

>>381612930

Or just wait for the Metroid 2 remake coming out in September.

>>381614840
I don't really feel like the entire appeal of Dark Souls is it being hard. That is just meme marketing

>>381615046

What is the appeal? What am I missing here?

>>381602336
>There are people I know that fucking cried at this shit.

I like RDR -- and the open-world is, funnily, too open; it's lacking in things to do -- and I never understood people crying over the ending.

Maybe it was just kids, I don't know.

>>381612930
It's a bit tedious and the bosses aren't very good, but it wasn't bad either. An average game with a few neat things and a few tedious things.

Environmental Station Alpha is the game you probably haven't played and should as long as you weren't sold on Ori/Hollow Knight for the art. ESA is all about the actual gameplay and it's pretty fucking good. It has a pretty lengthy postgame as well (and that's the only place where I have criticism for the game)

>>381614339
>comparing d44m to halo

you only played the mp beta didnt you

>>381601263
Me too, no matter how many times I tried I couldn't play more than a couple hours of this trash
>hurr it gets better once you get to Vegas

Maybe so but that doesn't excuse the absolute shit show that was the rest of this game.

>>381615318
>played the mp
I haven't even finished the game, I got fed up with it at the same map I got the super shotgun and the lackluster SSG was the final nail in the coffin.

>>381595383
Super Metroid isn't everyone's cup of tea but there's a reason why it gets the praise it gets.

>>381614447
I believe most people prefer the story of 1 but the gameplay of 2

>>381601954
THIS FUCKING GAME

The most boring open-world game I've played in my goddamn life, I will never understand the love for this shit

>>381597135
>bad gunplay and bad AI and bad survival mechanics

Seriously, what exactly does this game offer other than an aesthetic?

>>381597657
>Shitty controls
Am I being bamboozled?

>>381616003
I guess that makes sense in according with preferences, but I don't get why. The plot of one was very slow, lacked tension in most scenes for the first 4 days, and the characters were either irritating or Ronaldo-tier bad. The only ones I really liked were Atsuro and Black Frost.

>S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
You are supposed to use mods to make an okay game into a better game. Not a steaming pile of shit into somewhat playable pile of shit.
>Morrowind
The soundtrack and atmosphere of the game were top tier. but even for the time, that fucking combat system was fucking stupid. RNG combat should only be acceptable in turn based combat systems.

>>381616828
Who the hell is ronaldo

>>381601954
>It's a massive desert with almost nothing to do
It isn't surprising for the fact that it is a desert and it is low population towns along with long rides in between towns. It isn't as great as many people claim it is since it is just getting from one end of the map to the other, then shooting a bunch of dudes, but I was actually pulled into its open world. Maybe because SoCal is a desert and some of those open places are relatable and peaceful to me.

>>381598763
I feel you brother, what a piece of shit.

>>381595514
I've never gotten out of the opening dungeon. The game is just so boring and the dungeon is way too long. Not even the mod that supposedly lets you skip the dungeon works.

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>>381595383
Absolute snooze fest, but then again same could be said about most Bethesda games

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>>381598423

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>>381595383

Mah nigga

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>FPS with one analog stick
>art vastly inferior and less atmospheric than 2D titles
>pretty underwhelming enemy designs
>platforming and backtracking translated awfully to 3D

Score was incredible at times, but that's largely all that stood out as exceptional about it. I'll never understand Primefags and don't want to.

>>381612930
I enjoy it. It's not the greatest game I've played but I was playing it pretty frequently for a while.

>>381617483
every bethesda game after fallout 3


including new vegas

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Tried time and time again with each installment of the series and I could never get invested.

>It's bad because its popular

typical

>>381617230
The worst character of DeSu2. Super dumbass, think Yuzu but steals your shit. The only character I actively hated in 2, since even the less likeable ones get some proper development, like Keita, but Ronaldo's is too poorly spaced to make sense.

>>381595383
league of legends im 22 years old and try so HARD to get in this game thinking is like an rts game BUT is trash the comunity is garbage and i feel i play the map of wc3 and the sad part there are peopple actually enjoy this mess

>tfw miss the old days playing age of empire II in my local internet coffe

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>>381595383
I always get blasted for this one but I didn't like the controls or the ending.

>>381595635
This

>>381595963
This man. It is super cool for what I got to play but it is just fucking brutal and I'm too stupid for those puzzles. I liked difficulty to a degree but those puzzles were some elder god/eldritch shit I was not ready to understand

>>381597657
>Shitty controls

wut

Terranigma

I like many of its concepts, and the ending hits like a truck, but the gameplay it's fucking terrible and it didn't even try to fix the flaws the prequels had (in terms of gameplay).

Using the word "hate" might be too much, but whatever.

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How has this not been posted yet? Beat all 120 shrines and explored pretty much the whole world but I never felt the magic. This game will win every single GOTY award this year and I just don't understand. It was good but it was nothing extraordinary.

>>381618686
Didn't like the game as a whole (including the soundtrack), or didn't like the gameplay?

Because one just means you have no taste, while the other means you're not even fucking human.

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>>381618686

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Basically any Mario Kart game after Double Dash that isn't Double Dash.

>>381618815
>>381618831
i didnt like the gameplay. its too easy, the 1st one was better even though that game had its flaws.

>>381600953
Hi Mathew!

>>381618739
>It was good but it was nothing extraordinary.
But that's the thing, name one recent game that's extraordinary, or good even

>>381595383
Sure is some shit taste ITT.

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I remember combat just being waiting for the enemy to swing, either block, roll, or move out of the way, then spam the attack button. I think I only got through the first two areas, should I try again? This is the only souls game I played since I assumed I wouldn't like the others.

not hate but i started wolfenstein the old blood like a week ago and i am barely at chapter 3, those nazi with armor and shotguns are just not fun to kill and as soon as i got into the castle, another fucking guy in armor appears. I like the ocultism theme but it never kicks in, so far is just boring.

Shovel knight

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>>381618686

I feel this way about jet set radio, awesome soundtrack and art direction but holy fuck the gameplay was terrible, and i dragged myself beating it

I hear JSRF is better but im worried

>>381612930
>hates axiom verge
>recommends fucking ori
Both are shit but at least axiom is a metroidvania and not a platformer

>>381619179
I enjoyed Nier Automata, Persona 5, and Yakuza 0 way more than BotW and I would say they are pretty damn extraordinary. But not a single one will win any awards this year, BotW will take them all.

every crpg, too much reading and nothing ever fucking happens

>>381619179

There are plenty of games released in the last few years which are great, if you look outside of the Nintendo system library.

Alien Isolation
Rising Storm 2
Men of War: Assault Squad 2
Shadow Warrior 2
Call to Arms
Total War: Warhammer
Bloodborne
Nioh
Yakuza 0
Nier Automata
Shadow Tactics
Dishonored 2
Xcom 2
Dues Ex: Mankind Divided
Age of Decadence
Hitman 2016
Doom 2016
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood
Earth Defense Force 4.1
Underrail
Expeditions Conquistador
Legend of Grimrock
Day of Infamy
Wargame: Red Dragon
Ratchet & Clank Remake

I think that is all recent enough and came out in the last few years, if you want to go back you could add RO2/Rising Storm 1. Hard Reset, Shadow Warrior 1, Insurgency, Natural Selection 2 as well I guess.

>>381619589
whatever floats your boat anon, i'm not sure i would like any of the games you mentioned based on what i know. but i sure liked botw

>>381619258
You're assesment of the combat is right, but Demons Souls has the worst combat in the series. Demons Souls has great atmosphere, boss design, and level design but with everything else you want to check out the other games. I would try it again and not make your judgement of how "hardcore" the action is. If you really want to focus on combat, try BloodBorne or DS3

>>381601954
Dropped this garbo in like 30 seconds after getting out of the train. Moving the camera with that framerate gave me a massive headache

>>381620001
>tfw i don't think i would like any of those games
man i fucking hated wargame: red dragon so much i still berate my friends for talking me into buying it

xcom 2 is the only one on that list that actually appeals to me

>>381620135
Thanks, I'll look into the others I guess. I always felt bad too since I know the souls series is suppose to excellent, i'll try the others some day.

I don't think it's a bad game, but I just get so bored playing Zelda Breath of the Wild. I'm trying to get through it, but I put the game down after half an hour of play, most.

>Guild Wars 2
This game killed my soul, there will never be another game as good as Guild Wars and there will never be another sequel as completely twisted fucked up and shit on as Guild Wars 2 in the history of videogames

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I wouldn't say "hated" but I really didn't enjoy it as much as I thought it would, seeing as how a ton of people on /v/ love it so much. Clunky controls, hard to follow story, cheesy voice-acting (which is sometimes a positive), I mean it just sorta felt like a super-standard beat 'em up with a needlessly complicated story. Do the sequels get any better? I played a bit of the second game, and it just felt like only a minor improvement over the first game.

>>381601263
>Boring characters
>drab environments
>lame sidequests
>rates 3 and 4 higher than new vegas
3 has literally no colors other than gray and moss green and the only character that isn't boring as fuck is "lol so randum xd" not to mention 4 doesn't have a single good quest and 3 didn't have very many

>>381598952
Neptunia is also great example of this

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>>381598763
Same series here, but for a different reason: it feels like a slog.

I played Awakening on American "Hard" (which I think is Japanese normal), got bored halfway through. Then emulated FE7...I got farther, but still didn't finish.
All the missions feel too long if you're trying to preserve everyone AND hit all the shops/chests before moving to the next map (there's no inbetween areas in older games). Missions are either long and easy, or long and kind of tedious, but then after someone dies you lost like 40 mins of progress.
I don't have the patience and simply don't enjoy it after long enough.

>>381600782
I like music and boss but would rather fight with my das3 character not edgy fedora man with unpunishable parry gun.

>>381621551
The sequels improve the combat, but the story beats are pretty similar. It's basically an old-school yakuza movie in game form, so if you don't like the spirit behind the first game I don't think you'd like the rest. They do become more silly over time though

>>381621551
Yakuza 1 is the second worst yakuza game, there's a reason it's getting remade

>>381622775
I'll tell you what, it's pretty much required to play those things on an emulator so you can frame skip past the enemy turns, it shortens each round so damn much.

>>381623094
>They get more silly.
That seems alright, a major issue I had with the first game was that it took itself too seriously.
>>381623227
Yeah, I've seen that remake, looks pretty cool, I might give it a shot if I can get it for cheap.

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Got to the Calm Lands and couldn't bare to keep playing.

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>>381624198
Most of the silly stuff is relegated to side stuff, but boy does it get weird

Not hated it, but i found Bloodborne kinda boring. 8/10 game, not the masterpiece it's supposed to be. But to be fair, i haven't platinumed, nor played The Old Hunters.

>>381620393

>all those games
>none look interesting

Man life must suck being a weeb or a ninten yearold in 2017.

I mean I could understand liking Jap stuff in the 90's or 2000's, they had some seriously good games back then, some of my favorites even. But in the 2010's Japan has just gone down the fucking drain in quality, just either being disposable weebshit, or badly emulating the west.

Western gaming is miles ahead at this point.

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>extremely boring battle system, even compared to other SNES RPGs
>horrendous inventory management system
>characters/story not very memorable imo
>Ness feels homesick!

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>>381601804
>>381604386
>>381616515
>>381618726
Mario really doesn't control the way you expect him to, and trying to direct him feels like driving a tank. Maybe its because I'm used to newer Mario games, but SM64 just feels wrong to me.

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Every JRPG with turn based combat that i've tried: Ranma ½: Akanekodan Teki Hihou, Chrono Trigger, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, Parasite Eve, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy VII and some more i might forgeting. All of them shit, thanks to the turn based combat, how could anyone enjoy that shit.

>>381603973
Nier Automata could be described the exact same way. It's a Yoko Taro game, and comparing it to a regular Platinum one is stupid.

>>381603771
>>381604042
>>381625273
Platinum contributed NOTHING to Zero's core gameplay.
The same cannot be said for Automata

>>381625361
Automata's is good tho. Its a huge improvement over the original Nier, which is the only thing it should logically be compared to.

>>381625425
Why shouldn't it be compared to other games with similar gameplay styles?

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>garbage battle system, game basically plays itself
>most of the main cast is inconsequential and underdeveloped
>giant world filled with nothing interesting

>>381595635
>>381618336
your loss

>>381625567
Like what, Bayonetta and MGR? Those games are really different than Nier Automata.

>>381601456
I dont think alttp is all that great even though I played it as a kid, Super metroid I can go back to.

>>381612930
Thank you.

>>381597854
underated

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>250 posts and no one posted EYE

I can't be the only one right?

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>>381619363
I had the same for JSR
Beat it, jetted it. While i liked the idea of grinding/platforming/tagging, the cat and mouse with police and everything stylistically about it, the controls and general set-up of the game felt mostly lacklustre, poorly executed or frustrating.

JSRF i at first thought wasn't as cool looking as the original but i quickly warmed up to it as a slightly alternate thing. But most importantly, the gameplay was a ton more enjoyable for me.
The pacing is a lot more chill, less repetitive and timed events, controls are a lot more responsive, timed stunts give the game a lot more flow instead of just spamming jump, challenges that actually push you to do fun crazy shit, a much higher emphasis on exploration and platforming.
I played it last year and it honestly was one of the most positive and enjoyable experiences i've had playing games at that time.

The only gripe i have is that some of the challenges you have per district can be pretty damn vague and obscure. Not sure if this was supposed to be a puzzle element or just poor translation, but i looked up a bunch of those when they made no sense or caused me to trial and error too much.

Needless to say the music is fucking sweet too.
And if you do give it a chance, play it on the OG xbox. Playing it on 360 backwards compatability can cause some really annoying slowdown in some levels that will fuck up your stunt timing.

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It wouldn't have gotten the recognition if it wasn't one Japanese guy that distributed it for free. It is a fairly bland action platformer with too many story sequences that halt the pacing of the game.

>>381626275
I haven't played it because I mostly hear it is trash outside of the cult following on /v/.

>>381617791
>art vastly inferior and less atmospheric than 2D titles

nah

You're right about the enemy designs tho, omega pirates look dumb

>>381628021
I'm not a fan of Cave Story but you're crazy if you think games made by one japanese guy that got released for free were rare around that era.

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>Brain dead dungeon design
>hurr hurr u killed enemys/ lit da torches/ hit de eye boll
>even oracle of seasons more clever puzzles than this

the overworld and figuring out where to go is pretty fun tho

>>381595383
Every Final Fantasy game
I understand that the story is supposed to be good, but its almost always THE FATE OF THE WORLD RESTS IN OUR HANDS! BUT FIRST WE MUST GRIND!
Having to grind in order to proceed takes me completely out of the story and hype.

>>381629214
Try 6,7, or 12. No need to grind at all

>>381614650
This. MH is shit.

>>381614650
My issue with Monhun is how much the grind escalates and how monsters just drag on and on and on. It contradicts the whole weighty, slower combat. At the end of the day you only felt you took down a monster not because you hit it really fucking hard with an immense chunk of whatever material your weapon is, but because you took forever tracking it down and waiting for openings while hopping between areas.

>>381597814
>I'm terrible at finding powerups so I died to crocomire immediately
>this game sucks

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I just can't take the art.
Zelda is suppose the be an epic adventure of being brave, becoming a man, and more.

Playing in a shitty cartoon world, with poorly drawn unproportional characters, as Link with cat eyes, neon green sleeves, no neck, watermelon head, little legs in white tights, with little boots was and is ridiculous.

Toon Link is the cancer killing zelda.

>>381595383
I agree
It's a great game, NOT phenomenal, but great when it came out. Really the SNES was having a curtain call and everyone was pretty jazzed about the next gen at that point.

>>381629214
ff3 and kind of 5 are the only FF that require grinding
playing the game normally is usually more than enough for almost the entire series

>>381614840
>super ghouls n ghosts
that's because it isn't super ghouls n ghosts, whoever keeps telling you that really can't differentiate game mechanics that well

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This P.O.S - I am so glad GameStop had a promo to let me return the game after 24 hours for a FULL refund. Holy shit... thinking about this game makes me RAGE. Honestly can't think of another "AAA"/Physically released game that makes me more mad.

The first Kingdom Hearts. A shame because it always felt like a game I would love but I never got into it that much.

>>381629710
>white tights
???

>>381629032

NOOOOO!
:(

Persona 3, thoug maybe that's because I tried the portable version. Are the other versions/ games better, /v/?

>>381625574

Man... this game... this game had so much potential, just hate that awful battle system. I actually like most of the characters/environments. THOSE JUDGES... and Baltheir (sp?)!

ITT: baiting and genuine autism

>>381597657
>No creative worlds.
>Big Small World.
>Pyramid and Desert level.
>Floodworld.
>Hazymaze cave.
>The Clock.
>Rainbow Ride.
>Boo Mansion.

What else am I forgetting shit its been awhile.

>>381620968
I think everyone agrees that the story (and choice system ) is way better than the gameplay, and if you dont like that part, is worthless

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>>381619258

I HATE YOU... just joking.
Meh, Souls games aren't for everyone, that's for sure.

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>>381606448

I'll trigger the fuck out of all you autists

The only decent thing about 6 was Kefka related, the rest was generic and boring fantasy bullshit.

7 was retarded as fuck and written by 13 year olds but it was a thousand times more memorable.

8 should've been refined and polished with less focus on romance and more on time paradox / europeanism, and it would be 10/10

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>>381600782
>>381600953

Typical X-gaggers. Fucking kill yourselves!

>>381629032
I agree. The dungeons were pretty bland outside of one in the forest which you had to go into the forest and drop down to other segments of the dungeon. Lacks the exploration of the first Zelda game, lacks the challenge of the second, and its dungeons are inferior to Link's Awakening.

>>381595963
>Figure out I have to dance in front of something
>Figure out the dance
>Do it
>No idea what I unlocked or where
>This happens like 3 more times

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>>381630052
It was okay in OoT, but they just look too fucking gay with Toon Link

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I had to literally force myself to beat it. It was that bad, jesus christ.

>>381605338
You're a louse.

>>381630551
yeah i juss want to see that lil fags peepee lol

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Everything. EVERY LITTLE THING ABOUT THIS GAME is amazing.

Except for, you know. The gameplay.

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It wasn't that good
Sure the Queen's sword made it easy, but it still was boring and frustrating at times.
Just another keep X from dying while they follow you mission, except the mission last the entire game.

Last Guardian was worse than Ico too.

>>381630127
Depends why you hated it. The other versions have; character models and have you walk around to interact instead of just icons, some anime cut scenes, removes control of party members, and only the male MC. FES is just an extended version of the regular game, but god damn is The Answer dungeon boring

>>381600782
>>381600953
BB=DS>Des>3>2
>>381601263
>3, and Fucking 4 over New Vegas
10/10 bait if joking
>>381614645
Holy shit improve the tastes
>>381618002
That's literally this whole thread, its just a whole thread of shits tastes
>>381620393
Well beats being you
Also
>XCOM 2
funny how EW is better the 2

>>381615046
Dark Souls 2 fell for the meme, some of Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 as well.
>>381615152
I'd recommend you get one of the games yourself if you can get it cheap. The combat isn't particularly deep, so the games are actually at their best when the difficulty compliments the atmosphere.

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>ITT
>underaged
>shit opinions
why don't you fags just play with your fidget spinners and call it a day?

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>mfw favorite game hasn't been listed

Feels good

>>381600403
was gonna post this

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>>381595383

>>381596805
>>381599187
The appeal of Metroid isn't challenge. If you want challenge, you play something like DMC3 on Dante Must Die difficulty.

Not everyone prefers high-octane action movies; some people would rather sit back and chill with a nice mystery & intrigue film.

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The only good ones are
Super Mario World
Wario Land II
Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Maybe Luigi's Mansion as I have still yet to play it

Everything else is crappy kid shit and the exact same fucking game, with the exact same fucking gameplay, with the same exact who gives a fuck story.
This includes the party games and sports and shit.

I can't see how this has survived yet sonic didn't.

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I tried so hard to like it, but fuck me it is SO boring to play

>Run to one end of the map
>Mash the attack button
>Run to the other end of the map
>Talk to someone
>Run to the place you were just at
>Talk to someone else

The story isn't that great either

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>>381598763
>>381598952
>>381602460
>>381617454
>>381622775
There is a reason why even most FE fans hate Awakening and Fates

If you really want to try to get into FE, you should start with FE7 or Path of Radiance on the gamecube (easily emulated with Dolphin)

Awakening and Fates are full of so much waifu garbage that its hard to even play them without completely skipping all dialogue and ignoring the story, and they made the gameplay so shitty in Awakening that its impossible to stay interested for any reason, at least Fates kind of has decent maps and shit, but they fucked with the mechanics and made it really frustrating for weird reasons.


FE7 really is the best place to start with the franchise

>>381631158

You are not alone.
It is god awful.
Shitty story, corny as fuck, shitty gameplay, why the fuck can you not point your gun faster?!, and I just-don't-caaaaaaaaaaaaaaare.
I literally dropped it before the speed boat level in the first one.
I got on the speed boat and said you know what, no, this game sucks and I bet its not going to get any better.

>>381631259
hi dsp

>>381631158
>I haven't played 2,3, and 4s Multiplayer
Single player is fine to but come on now

>>381630551
That's because OoT's Link was low poly and chunky, any proper rendition like artwork or the remake's model achieves the skintight look and is consequentially really fucking gay. SS's baggy pants were the best solution.

Aquaria: Played it a few months ago and it is boring to look at and the way you control your character is annoying. People actually consider this a good Metroidvania?

Final Fantasy 4: I don't hate this game, but it's definitely overrated. At least by normies, I haven't seen much shilling of it on /v/. I could not handle all the stupid enemies in the last dungeon and just ran from each encounter.

Legend of Zelda: This guy covers most of my complaints about this game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ySSq2d5mKE
I think I'm starting to appreciate things like "immersion" less and less if the game just constantly frustrates me.

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I've given this game several chances and I only ended up hating it even more each time. I hate the level design, I hate the cyber elf bullshit, I hate the weapon grinding, I hate the fucking cutscenes etc. I have no idea why this shit is considered the pinnacle of the Mega Man franchise.

>>381631639
FF4 is really only popular in Japan, it's FF7 and FF6 that are popular amongst normalfags. Also the DS version is much harder than the original, and most other Final Fantasy's for that matter.

>>381629032
I thought it was meh
I don't know why people clamor so hard over it.
Maybe its because I didn't have a snes growing up, I was born in 1991, and all I had until 98 was a gameboy color, and I didn't play ALttP until I was 16.

I honestly like the original over ALttP.
I think LA is so much better than all the Zelda's before it.

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Might be because I didn't play it when I was younger but jfc I couldn't take it.

>>381600782
I liked the game but fucking this. It was impossible to even imply it wasn't the apex fucking videogame without console war sonybros jumping down your throat, because for the longest time criticizing BB meant attacking the only fucking game on the console and we can't have that so better fucking spam golden faces

>>381631514
See>>381631618

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>>381614840
>Dude Dark Souls is literally 3D Castlevania but GOOD

>>381600960
you can't imply DaS3, literally the most linear game in the series, is "just DaS" while in the same post calling DaS open

>>381631796
I hate that Zero design. It's a kid wearing a helmet, a tank top and a diaper.

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>let's take DMC and add some half-assed stealth

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I first played it about seven years ago and got stuck on the third level. Also, I was kind of pissed that they called it Super Mario World 2. I borrowed Yoshi's Island DS and had a pretty good time with that, though, except for the snow level

>>381631158
I don't get the praise it gets
I tried 2 (supposed to be the best one) and couldn't get into it. It was just generic third person combat mixed with "find the next yellow ledge to grab on"

Pretty much every sony exclusive. They all feel like generic copies of popular series from microsoft or nintendo. Never owned a sony console because ive played multiplayer games on it at a friends house and the controller and graphics or framerate was always worse than the gamecube or xbox.

>>381632113
You don't have to do the stealth.

>>381632085
I mean, Dark Souls did get pretty close. It just had to feature more platforming.

>>381630682
He is trying to say that Final Fantasy 7 is not available for the Nintendo
Entertainment System, which is a true statement

>>381624305
I was so excited for it when I finally got a PS2.
I like the story, but I never really played a FF game before it, so when I saw that it was nothing but turn base battles and grinding I was heart broken.
I FUCKING HATED the gay water basketball and couldn't figure out how to play it.
So when you HAD to beat the second water basketball game at the place with the chokobos or whatever, I quit.
So I really only played like 2-4 hours of it.

I can just watch cutscenes on youtube, I only cared about the story.

>>381632093
At least there's no glass tits.

>>381632113
>hating on mgr

Now this is some real shit taste

>ITT: Shit taste

>>381631519
Doesn't he hate all the MGS games? I just don't like the turn the games took after that one specifically.

Oh, and while we're at it, Megaman Legends. Those two games start out okay enough, but then they open up into and empty, aimless game that leaves me struggling to find a reason to keep playing.

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ITT

>>381632157
Yeah, I agree. I can respect a few original things, mostly from Japan, but the rest are mass produced clones. Hell, Naughty Dogs' entire career was making clones even before they were known as ND.

>>381632239
No armor either. Nothing about it speaks combat ready.

>>381632279
No fucking shit, thread is literally called "fuck you i hated it" meaning its people shitting on games generally accepted to be good on /v/

>>381631201
When we are talking about challenge we aren't clamoring for Gradius III arcade. We just want a reason to continually play. Something that actually engages us, keeps us on our toes. Tricky platforming, clever puzzles, interesting enemies with good patterns. Super Metriod doesn't offer that. I can get more challenge out of the SNES Mario games or the Genesis Sonic games than in Super Metriod.

Surprisingly people that play video games like to play a game and when there isn't much to play with or it isn't interesting they might not enjoy it.

If you want mystery and intrigue play something like Myst.

>>381632279
This

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The fucking intro did nothing but confuse the hell outa me, really put me off. Shame because it looked quite nice.

>>381600782
10 DAYS

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>>381595383
Mafia 2
Morrowind
Dark Soul
FTL
all of /v/ darlings

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>>381631510
Thanks, anon, but i did play FE7. The gameplay was much better, but it still felt like a slog, got about 2/3 of the way through.

The one thing about the game that pissed me off more than RNG, was how recruitment works:
>it's obvious who can be recruited, because some mook or rando on the map talks to themselves
>At first, you just need your lord to talk to them
>them for most of the game you have to talk to them with a certain character...good luck guessing
>like the second Pegasus Knight, she's the sister of the first one and this is the first time we hear about it
>the fortune teller gives you a hint, but her early game advice is useless and a waste of money, so you stop listening to her early on
>then they switch it back at the end to having to use your lord to talk to them
Playing a blind run is fucking shitty

>>381614645
Okay, no
You had better fucking explain yourself
The only bad thing about SotC was the horse riding, camera, and that gut wrenching ending.

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>b-but muh old school ff nostalgia wankery

>>381600403
Came to post this shit too.
Luckily for me though, I pirated it.

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This and Fallout 3. Never played Fallout 4

Everything felt really clunky and stiff to play. Couldn't last 30 minutes in Fallout New Vegas due to how the game plays. Same experience with Fallout 3 but on console.

>>381632530
>Playing a blind run is fucking shitty
Yeah, it can be a bit tedious.
I missed a bunch of units on my first run because I skipped a lot of dialogue as a kid and didn't bother looking anything up, but that just kind of adds to the replayability in my opinion.
Its fair if you don't like the game though, its not for everyone. Just figured I should recommend FE7 just in case Awakening or Fates were your only exposure to the franchise.

>>381601954
You are shit