How is there not a single good survival game?

CDDA

very very bad day scenario

shower victim

nigger

>>381593979
You don't like the genre.

>>381593979
Stranded deep is pretty good. Although they've taken a few steps backwards recently

>>381593979
Because of the cancerous combination of
>Indie
>Survival
>Crafting
>Open World
>Multiplayer
>Early Access
Lots of perpetual alphas diluting the genre

>>381593979
Minecraft.

>>381593979
It's a shit genre that combines too many genres together and can't even half ass them all equally.

UnReal World (has nothing to do with the Unreal series) is good and has basically all the mechanics of a typical modern indie survival despite the development starting in the early 90s

Survival is boring as fuck. You find an optimal strategy then repeat it forever until you fuck up.

>Food meters that drop so fast your guy needs to eat 38 pounds of meat every hour just to survive
>Sprinting for two seconds puts your guy on the edge of death and he needs no less than half a lake of water to keep going.
>Night time means you have to find a safe spot and afk for a good 5-10 minutes
>if there is a pvp aspect, the game is completely ruined by people constantly raiding you
>probably some retarded crafting system where you need 600 logs to make a fire.

The genre is in a really shit place right now. Less about survival more about meter management.

Because the entire premise of playing for survival is fucking retarded

>>381593979
this war of mine

>>381594723
This. Doesn't have any of that shit >>381595474 mentioned.

>>381595474
the good survival games don't do this though

>>381593979
Don't Starve is good

Subnautica is pretty good

A lot of these games (like your pic related) focus too much on the tedium of resource collection

it's a good casual survival game, i play on the easiest since i don't want to deal with a tryhard hardcore death mode.
story taking forever never really concerned be since i bought it for the sandbox.
and good game recommendations like or better than this would be appreciated.

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>>381593979
*blocks you're path*

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Did someone say good survival games?

>>381595775
But we already agreed that there are no good survival games.

>>381594487
this

>>381593979
Developers can't seem to have both fun gameplay and survival together at the same time.

Base building focus
Progen maps

>>381596178
Because it's impossible to combine them. It's either a boring and tedious grind or fun, you can't have both.

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>>381593979
This game is comfy as hell

bears are hella spooky tho

>>381596270
>Shooting some sticks at a fucking bear.

why did he think this was a good idea?

So I'm having trouble telling from this thread if The Long Dark is good or not.

>>381595935
>pic unrelated

>>381596398
Because Farcry lets you kill anything with a bow and arrow, so it must work in other games.

>>381593979
Skyrim

>>381593979
Survival Kids for GBC.

No need to thank me.

>>381595190
I mean, this is the actual answer
This is how it's worked since animals first evolved

>>381596270
what game is this?

>>381596270
This more or less. The long dark on interloper is actually a mega comfy and challenging experience. I consider it a pretty good survival game.

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>>381596270
I held off playing any more of that game because I wanted to wait for it to be done, got a lot of potential.
>mfw my first bear attack

>>381596957
nigga u dum

>>381594239
>thread

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>>381596270
>Ive never played a video game - the post

If that is supposed to make me feel anything other than disinterest at a fresh game dev grad's first efforts then lol

The problem is everyone wants to have good survival but the devs use PvP as a proxy for content. Not a single survival game has good AI and there isnt an exception.

>>381593979
Subnautica

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>>381597131
>anime poster
opinion goes into the trash

>>381597131
The Forest

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>>381597308
>non anime poster
opinion goes into the trash

>>381597131
>le jaded gaymer post
>anime picture

It checks out.

>>381597087
Just tell me.

>>381597131
>>381597308
>>381597357
>anime posters BTFO

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hello

>>381596270
when did this game got bows and arrows?

>>381597435
The one in the OP

>>381596531
Either way it's a perma-early access game you shouldn't give money to

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>>381597308
>>381597357
>>381597373
Every single survival game is what this webm shows except its worse because you have a load screen between the npc and your house, fucking retarded. They lose their luster after five minutes of play - though if you are missing chromosomes etc. that bear's AI is probably really amazing and exciting for you.

ARK or RUST are the best for PvP. For RP and PvE Conan Exiles (Still bad PvE)

>>381597131
>le contrarian weebshit

buck to c/a/ncer

Fuck it I love this game. I love taming dinosaurs and making structures and befriending and fucking with new players. If you can get past the tedium of resource farming, it's dank AF

So should I give The Long Dark a pass?
I already own Subnautica and Don't Starve.

>>381597435
The Long Dark

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Unreal World is a survival game. Maybe too much of a survival game. With cool music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlcuWfc-bvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QULRGg0fi0s

>>381595876
Subnautica is a top tier survival game, though it becomes less about survival pretty quickly. Optimized like shit though.

>>381597518
>>381597567
I think Don't Starve is one of the greatest survival games ever made. It's tedious, but so satisfying. I haven't tried Shipwrecked yet, I wonder if it is as good.

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>>381597927
Forgot pic related

>>381597848
I dont even visit /a/, and what I said is simply true. Im waiting for a vid or webm, to show good AI. Its the hardest thing to do and its why all survival are shit if youve any experience with games, and especially the genre.

It boils down to learning mechanics and efficiency for ten minutes, then you beat the PvE aspect and can move on to the players.

>>381597962
I am interested in subnautica though, I passed because it was single player.
>>381597308
>>381597373
>>381597470
>>381597848
>I DONT HAVE ANY POINTS AND THIS PERSON HAS A CRITICAL GRIPE ABOUT MY SHITTY GENRE!!!!

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>>381598101

>>381598264
>only skilled in weatherlore

Weak character

>>381594308
Horribly incomplete.
Clunky crafting system where you constantly need to drop things out of your inventory.

>>381596531
It's coming out of early access in August

>>381598230
Not him but Subnautica is very good. However, the story is currently only like 80-ish% done and they'll push out the endgame out somewhere in september so you might want to wait for that.

>>381598472
Hadn't even spent any increases yet.

>>381596270
the first time i got attacked by a bear was the coolest shit, I wasnt even mad when i thought i died

it got even better when i realized i wasnt dead and had to limp about half a mile through wolf country back to the farmhouse i set up in

Haven't played it in a long time but The Forest seemed to have potential. Is it any good these days? I've been thinking about reinstalling and playing with the enemies off to see how it was as a comfy sim

>>381598230
Subnautica is fantastic but I'd wait for full release in a couple months.

>>381598885
Still an unfortunate skillset

>>381595789
My picks are The Forest and Subnautica. Both games are more "cinematic" and focus on exploration than collecting crap.
Empyrion is also decent but it's more focused on crafting. I liked hunting for and exploring the POIs for rare weapons and mats.

They all suffer from being early access though.

>>381593979
Rimworld with Hardcore-SK modpack.

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Neo Scavenger has pretty deep mechanics and can be fun but on the other hand it's hard as balls unless you really know what you're doing.

Pro tip: NEVER take off the talisman you start out with unless you like being hunted by a nearly unkillable wraith for the rest of the game

>>381599394
Never seen anyone talk about NEO before. I could never get very far.

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>>381599083
its been a while since i played, but the last time i did, i detached from this plane of existence when climbing a rope out of a cave. unable to return to solid ground, I ended up in space

>>381599535
Ya like I said the big learning curve and difficulty at the start turn most people away. The farthest I've gotten is the city at the edge of the map for the questline but after that my luck always takes a turn for the worst.

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I would consider Sunless Sea a survival game.

>>381593979
My only gripe with TLD is how your guy is constantly knocked down by a shitty wolf, realistically one wolf isn't that strong to topple down a grown ass man, what would have been better is a new struggle where the wolf locks onto your arm or leg, not constantly throwingyou down like some bitch.

>>381599954
That's a good one if you speed hack it. It needed a lore codex to store your unlocked/completed stories and quests instead of the way it's all haphazardly presented.

>>381599954
>food management
>fuel management
>Gameplay involves lots of travel
>pseudo permadeath

Ya I would say it fits

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>>381597725
>Rust has the best pve
ftfy
>Rust has the worst PVE

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>>381593979
One good thing about Long Dark is it teaches us that there is a very small, niche number of Canadian leafs that aren't complete faggots. But they live in the northern, isolated wilderness away from said faggotry.

>>381598101
>Optimized like shit though.
thats becuase it uses the unity engine. Have you ever played a unity engine agme that doesnt run like shit?

>>381600004
The average wolf weighs pretty close to 100 pounds. Granted I've never been attacked by one but I would say one running full speed toward a man could definitely knock him down.

>last update absolutely destroyed interior lighting, now once spooky areas glow like the fucking sun
>all people bitch about is the new UI instead
Fuck everything. Long Dark was as close to a game based off The Edge or The Grey and it was good while it lasted.

>>381595689

Aka The Axe Murderer sim.

>>381595935
What game is this?

>>381601310
But it happens all the time, even when it's not running. It'd be okay if it was at full speed but it gets fucking annoying when it happens all the damn time even by wolves who appear right after you load outside next to them. And I've never been attacked by a wolf either so I don't really know how strong they are, almost by a nigger pitbull but I don't think that would count.

>>381601310
>>381600004
The developers have specifically stated that they were not going for realism at all in regards to the wolves. They are a game mechanic, not accurate representations of wildlife.

>>381600936
They're probably having to going to rewrite significant parts of the engine to get those performance gains. Which begs the question that why pick Unity as a engine in the first place if you're just going to rewrite half of it anyway.

>>381601808
Banished, but it's very simplistic.

>>381601813
No fucking shit sherlock pretty sure we all read that disclaimer but what I'm saying is it gets really fucking annoying that a shitty wolf knocks you down on your ass all the time, even in surprise non running attacks.

>>381595876
>a game made by people who think putting guns in video games equals school shootings

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>>381597725

>>381593979

Zomboid

>>381593979
Have you tried the survival mode in minecraft=?

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>>381602492
>zomboid
>good

The best survival game out 2 years ago, DayZ.

>>381600004
youre literally an idiot if you think a wolf cant tackle a person

wolves regularly tackle animals weighing 5x a humans size without even breaking a sweat

>>381593979
90% of the genre is made by people just trying to ride on minecraft success and the remaining 10% by devs that at one point hit a brick wall after developing basic features and rebranded it "survival game" to justify the lack of shit to do

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>>381603404
>wolves regularly tackle animals weighing 5x a humans size without even breaking a sweat
Wolves don't really sweat the begin with anon.

>>381603542
t. an idiot

>>381604018
Dogs only sweat a little from the bottoms of their feet, they pant to cool down.

>>381604380
thanks google

>>381604465
How can I make the joke in the first place if I didn't know this myself?

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>>381598101
>I think Don't Starve is one of the greatest survival games ever made. It's tedious, but so satisfying. I haven't tried Shipwrecked yet, I wonder if it is as good.

If you liked Don't Starve you'll probably like Shipwrecked.
It's basically just more Don't Starve, only now it's castaway/tropical island themed- it's pretty good.

>>381604743
I guess I haven't played it because whenever I want to play Don't Starve I just play the usual version. Is there enough content in Shipwrecked to justify it being a standalone?

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>>381600004
>>381601310
>>381601809

Wolves are huge, what the fuck are you people talking about.
They eat bison, why on earth would you people think they'd have any trouble overpowering an unarmed person?

Because it always has some lame as hell busywork to coincide with the survival aspect.

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>>381594107
not enough people discuss cataclysm :(

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how do you make the perfect survival game?
i want to make survival a game but not like all every other generic "eat every 3 minutes or die"survival games

>>381605914
Analyse what makes them fun, focus on those aspects and streamline the rest.

Don't starve. It's hard though.

Project Zomboid and The Forest are fucking solid games.

>>381606593
>zomboid
That's still around? Is it good?

>>381606752
Yeah, the updates are slow as shit but it's still here and already good enough to be played seriously. Good mods too.

They're working on cars right now, you can test them in the beta branch. Also other shit i don't know about.

>>381600004
Regular dogs fuck people up on the regular m8. What are you smoking?

>>381605914
Don't make it fucking complicated with a maze of useless shit cluttering everywhere for one.

>>381606752
It's all about realism, which is kinda cool if you're into that shit. Being wounded in any real way is likely death from infection, breaking a leg means death because you can barely move around for weeks.
Your crops gets eaten by mold or bugs, crafting is a bitch, etc.

>>381593979

Because the concept of it became popular again after the hunger games movies and anything marketed towards that audience is just fucking awful

>>381600790
He said PvP though?

>The Long Dark
>Project Zomboid
>UnReal World
>Subnautica
All of these are god tier

I like Skyrim with mods like Frostfall and Realistic Needs.

>>381593979
TE LO RECOMIENDO BASTANTE Y SI

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>>381593979
Speaking of The Long Dark, is there any way to turn off the commentary?
I know it's supposed to be immersive, but it is the exact opposite to me and it's ruining the experience.

What are the pros and cons of RUST? I've been considering buying it since it went on sale, but a couple of my friends say it's shit.

If it helps I enjoy survival games like Minecraft, Terraria, Starbound, Zomboid, The Long Dark, and modded Minecraft

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>>381607859
Have you checked the options menu?

>>381597518
>>381597567
This. Top tier. It only lacks a story line ending in the multiplayer coop version, but the singleplayer is flawless.

>>381607859
I think if you go into the audio options and turn voice down to 0% that should stop it

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>>381607971
Yes, last time i played there was no option to turn it off.

Is there now?

>>381594107
I enjoy cdda but it's such an unholy clusterfuck

>>381597131
>weeaboo has an awful opinion
I bet if it was made by japan and had anime girls in it you would suck its fucking cock you faggot.

>>381607678
I think the focus can't be on survival. There needs to be other things with survival aspects as a cream on top. Subnautica focuses on exploration.

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>>381593979

>>381608342
I don't fucking know, but I bet the option menu does.

>>381609676
>become full and can't eat anymore but my hunger's nowhere near sated yet
>have to wait to digest, further starving in the process
>same for water

It's shit.

>>381610129

next time don't roleplay as luffy you fucking fag

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>>381600790
yea dipshit learn to read
>>381602446
ARK had the best PvP for a while, some would argue it still does but its too meta right now. it (like all survival games) has such flawed core mechanics and programming that everything is about exploits.

The platform for survival games and the actual need for survival should be more along the lines of horror games. The big problem with them is that they let you do anything, and nothing in the world (aside from all powerful gods which arent fun or scary, entirely because you cant do anything) can really hurt you besides players.

PUBG has scarier PvP in solo, Space Station 13 has better survival than all the survival games in this thread to boot, too.

>>381610213
I don't watch manga, I just get stranded out there for longer than I expect due to ambushes.

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>>381593979
I'd argue The Long Dark is a successful survival game, and has been a successful Early access as well.. I've been playing it a fair bit lately.

One of the very few games I am happy I bought desu

>>381597278
Is subnautica worth buying during summer sale?

>>381611014
Absolutely

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>>381597131
>the long dark
>pvp

How do we feel about The Long Dark having a map system now?

>>381613245
It's optional and it's not a fucking minimap so it's cool

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Have you tried The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim? With an expansive wilderness and a myriad of vicious enemies, both man and beast, your survival skills will be put to the test. And with 8 different versions to choose from you are sure to find the Skyrim that suites you best.

>>381610129
how do you fuck up so massively that you starve or get dehydrated in DF adventure mode

is /v/ bad at video games?

>>381595876
Subnautica isn't that good and keeps getting worse with every update.