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Final Fantasy XIV possible for the Switch and Xbox One. Sony

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-14-director-wants-switch-and-xbox-on/1100-6451129/

What the fuck?

>However, Yoshida has said he wants both companies to meet one major condition: "the game has to have the capability of cross-platform play." One of the issues Yoshida noted, however, was that many companies don't consider how updates to the way online services are operated and regulated can impact an MMORPG.

>"Those can become a hurdle when we consider operating FFXIV for an extended period of time," he said. "So when I talk to those first-party companies, I ask them, 'Do you have the capability to prepare for that, do you have the resolve that you're going to make sure to take responsibility and take care of those, do you have that willingness?'

>"If we are able to come to some sort of agreement, a handshake so to speak, or if it does end up being that unfortunately we can't do a handshake with Final Fantasy XIV, either way we'll make sure to communicate with our players. But we have been tenacious--we've been trying to keep at it and be persistent about our conversations."

>Getting Sony to open up its online services to Xbox and Nintendo customers may be an insurmountable obstacle for Yoshida and Square Enix, however. Sony has previously opted not to support cross-platform online player for Rocket League and, more recently, Minecraft.
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even if sony agrees, square enix will find another way to say no.

>xbox doesn't sell well in japan so we're not making a port
>switch is too underpowered for our next expansion so no port
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>up system requirements for SB
>player model and armor textures are still 256×512
How can he keep getting away with it?
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Anyone have the Naruto Axegod comic?
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>>381590042
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/09/why-final-fantasy-xiv-isnt-coming-to-xbox-360-or-xbox-one
FF14 didn't come to Xbone because MS was refusing it back then
>"The policy has not changed on Microsoft's side," he revealed. "The main reason from our side is that I don't want the community to be divided; to be split into two or more. For example, one player might be on the PC version, another might be on the PS4 version, and I'm playing the Xbox version - but we're not able to join the same game servers. That is just... I just don't like the idea. I disagree with it."
It seems like it's different since they got a new CEO.
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>>381589834
Won't the Switch hold it?
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>>381590042
>japan
??? Final Fantasy is more popular in the west than it is in Japan.
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>>381590286
Aren't MS complete cunts with updates to their games?
Where they charge stupid amounts for them, and in some cases they tack on a fee?

Also that back then microsoft refused cross play as well.
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>>381589834
You're not missing out on much
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>>381590318
why are you posting my wife
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who /comfyatishgard/
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>>381590508
how many xbox fans in america and europe buy japanese games for their console
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>>381589834
What the fuck sony, what jews
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>>381590318
The game ran on the fucking playstation 3 and support for that recently removed. The game is already meant to run on toaster PC's they could probably make it work on a switch. Still think it would be kind of silly honestly the game is 100% online only so the portable function of the switch is useless without a wi-if connection.
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>>381590628
Probably around 200k max. We're talking about a Wow clone baby first mmo here. They are not as retarded as you to ignore players.
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>>381590848
I'd also imagine that the battery life on the switch would be shit if you're constantly using Wi-Fi and stressing out the CPU. You could always dock it but then why not just play on PS4 or PC at that point.
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>>381590628
I would want to. I buy any that come out just to support them.
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>>381590628
Dunno, don't have sales charts for japanese games on Xbox 360, also are there ANY japanese games on Xbox One that isn't a fighting game?
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alright I'm gonna need a quick rundown on Ten Chi Jin

use before or after trick attack?
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>company enacts beneficial business practice
omfg
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>>381589834

so why are they having the exact opposite problem with miney crafta
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>>381589834
Nope, in the case of FFXIV, MS are the ones that said no
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>>381590286
Yeah they must have changed their stance seeing the crossplay with Nintendo now but MS knows they aren't in a position to refuse things consumers want like they could last gen. Regardless Sony has a lot of control over the game coming on other platforms because SE will never fuck over their PS4 userbase. The playerbase is split pretty evenly across PC/PS4 and Japan in particular the vast majority of players are on PS4.

What I find weird about the whole situation is that they had no issues allowing crossplay with the PS2 for Final Fantasy XI which was on PC/PS2/360 but that could have something to do with it only being available on a last gen console and not PS3.

>>381590512
Sony charges for patches as well no idea about Nintendo but Sony/MS both have fees for patch "certification".
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>Just got rid of PS3 holding the game back
>People want the Switch to hold it back now

Please no
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I hope this shitty game is never ported to the switch, we really don't need the platform with arms and spatoon players Shitting up the player base further, get a laptop if you really need this shit on the go
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>>381590984
>You could always dock it but then why not just play on PS4 or PC at that point.
Yeah my point exactly its almost pointless for a Switch version to exist unless you exclusively only own a Switch and not a PS4/PC which I have no idea why you would.
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>>381590984
Well it's still 3 hours of play which is enough for most people.
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>>381589834
Jesus christ I just finished fapping OP don't do this to me.
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>>381590286
And now it's Sony being the pigheaded one about sharing online spaces with anyone but PC users.

It's why Rocket League will be PC-Xbone-Switch cross-compatible, but PS4 can only play against the PC userbase in that same game (causing a bit of a fragmentation). They do this because they have the majority hold on the console market and know it just nets them more hardware sales as a result.
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>>381590210
Requirements were upped because they increased the general display load of the game by making all the areas have higher enemy/npc population density.
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>stop ps3 support so it doesnt hold back development
>wants switch in it
Raiding on it will be so fun
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>>381593761
does it really? I feel like anyone who knows all of this is going to be less inclined towards buying a PS4
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Doing any kind of pvp arena or raids already puts a strain on the ps4, what the fuck is Yoshi smoking thinking that adding the switch in it is a good idea.
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Isn't the Switch literally weaker than a PS3?

How would this even work?
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>>381591370
>Not caring about the downsides for the players
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>>381589834
>switch
They have said before thatps3 was literally holding it back, you seriously think the switch could even run it well? Don't make me laugh
>xbox
not worth the time since there's so little players
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DQXI was said to have performance issues on the Switch, so I hope Yoshi P isn't stupid enough to trade "PS3 Limitations" for "Switch Limitations". As much shit as the Xbone gets, it would at least avoid dragging down the game since it's not that different from the PS4 or average PC spec-wise.
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>>381594423
Casualfags don't care
All they'll see is that the majority of their friends own a PS4 and that in order to play the latest FIFA, CoD, and Battlefront with them they'll need to buy a PS4 too
Hell most casuals will probably go a step further and start sucking Sony cock and fanboying for them simply because everyone they know owns one.
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>>381594423
what are ya a commie?
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>>381594681
yes because everyone has high end pcs to make those run smoothly
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>>381589834
>FF14 director wants a Switch version
>FFXIV possible for Switch
Neither of these things were said in the Kotaku interview.
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>accepted my refund request
>wont have to force myself to play this terrible expansion anymore
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>>381595485
They stopped ps2 support aswell
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>>381590615
What outfit is that, its pretty great.
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Considering that you need an xbox live account on the switch to crossplay to play with xbox and pc, pretty obvious why sony doesn't want to play ball, it would be under MS's control.
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>>381596919
>A Microsoft owned franchise requires you to use Xbox services
Holy fucking shit, boycott Minecraft this instant that would be like needing to log into FFXIV on my PS4 with an SE account due to it connecting to SE servers
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>>381596919
They don't have their own server for FF14?
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>>381594834
That is a lie anon.
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>>381597169
SE is 3rd party
And you can play minecraft online anyway within psn without an xbl account so they have 0 reasons to care.
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>/v/ is only just now seeing sony is and always was the bad guys
holy shit, am i the oldest person on this board? does no one remember them always being slant eyed jews since the ps1 days?
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>>381595181
Want to know how much memory the PS3 had? Fucking 512MB. Not even that, 256MB RAM and 256MB VRAM. The Switch isn't backing desktop PC levels of RAM, but 4GB is leaps and bounds more than the PS3 had, which is what was really holding things back.
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>>381589834
If crossplay games are serious about making it work they can't allow Sony the upperhand. Sony only wants to do it with PC so a game like this or rocket league have already given sony what they want. If they were to revoke Sony's crossplay privileges with PC then sony would have no choice but to say yes. I mean it's kind of forcing their hand and i don't know the logistics behind that kind of move but it seems like the only real move to get it to happen.
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>>381589834
>just got rid of the PS3 holding the game back
>now you want the Switch to hold the game back
The xbone fags can join the party but Switch fags can get fucked until Nintendo makes a console that isn't a underpowered gimmick
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Are queues normalized yet on Balmung or Gilgamesh?
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>Edilibus takes off his mask at the end of 3.0
>Use CheatEngine to flip the camera around to see his face
>He's still wearing the mask, and the one in his hand is just an object

Least they're learning from the time I and a few others spoiled some 3.X shenanigans ahead of time. He's a unique head model also, can't just 'unequip' the mask like you could other certain npcs.
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>>381589834
So don't put them on the same servers? This is a no brainer.
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>>381598078
It's Gaius
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>>381595126
what downsides?
just play it on your PC.
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>>381598065
Yes, having a thousand people in front of you when you play on an overcrowded meme server is normal you fucking retard
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>>381598796
I so hope the true hero of the story is still alive
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>>381599007
You realize before 4.0 started there was no queue on Balmung at all right? Im just waiting for it to go back to normal.
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>>381598965
The same thing they said with PS3? Technical limitations of sharing the game with a shitty baby console like the Switch?
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>>381598065
Nah but it'll eventually get there since SE completely blocked transfers/character creation the pop can only go down
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There is zero chance of a Switch port.
>killed PS3 for larger areas
>Switch if more powerful than PS3 it surely isn't by much
>game needs a constant internet connection which makes it awful for a portable console.
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>>381589834

easy solution

enable cross platform play between PC, xbox and switch, let sony and their rotten fanbase die in a fire, they are all elitist assholes anyway
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>>381590984

>implying you can play an MMO on the go for more than 3 hours
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>>381599664
>block access to the largest console player base and the largest Jap player base
Great idea senpai
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>>381599664
Kek, the biggest elitists in 14 are PC palyers though
Just keep the Switch limitations away from this game
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I wish they'd just fucking drop console support all together
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>>381599664
Your business decisions are amazing.
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When is the raid dropping?
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>>381599625
Pretty much this, Nintendo switch fans shouldn't get offended by this. But it's not going to be on the switch. It just isn't meant for that system, it's more likely to be on the xbox and even that is a stretch
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>>381599918
>drop half the playerbase
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>>381596913
Crystal tower set.
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>>381599971
4 weeks.
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>switch limitations dragging the game down
no thanks, I guess I'll be on the side of sonybros for the first time
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>ps4 is a piece of shit and hold back the game
>lets port the game to a console even weaker than a vita
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>>381600120
>>381599971
4 for savage. 2 for normal
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You're being manipulated! They get you by telling your character how awesome they are! I see through SE's tricks because of my experience with many MMOs!
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>>381589834
is this game subscription based?
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>>381600579
Yes, but there's a free trial up to level 35.
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Is it normal when i enter the areas that have roof but still have light sources(that place where you meet Hancock or the lazaret in Reach where Y'shtola and Krile healing people) i have 0 character shadows. And i'm playing on pc with maxed everything out. Does any one has this issue?
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>>381600579
$13 a month
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>>381600734
>>381600838
is the game any good? I mean i remember ESO having the subscription fee and dropping it because nobody liked it but this game has been out for a while so it be really good that a fee hasn't really damaged the game.
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>>381598796
That's the going theory. I just wanted to see if the devs goofed again and made it possible to see ingame.

With how often NPCs are referencing Gaius in the side quests, his return is inevitable.
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>>381589834
>Another game being held by Sony

Monster Hunter World, Cross Online Play and now Final Fantasy XIV. How many more games need to suffer under Sony's desperate attempts at trying to boicot it's competition with shitty tactics like these?
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>>381601073
Give the free trial a shot. You'll figure out if you'll like it or not pretty fast.
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>>381601073
FFXIV is really good for a theme park MMO. It's focused really heavily on the story like a mainline FF game though and there's about 100 hours of main story quests before you even hit Stormblood if you don't rush through them. The end game boss presentation is the best out of any MMO they all feel really cool and have shit like dynamic music that changes when bosses change phases. Like that other guy said there's a free trial until level 35 so you can always try it out and see if you like it. The beginning of the game is slow as fuck and will probably make you quit the game though if you don't somewhat enjoy the story
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>>381591163
>>381590042
lol did you guys forget FFXV is on xbone
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>>381590512
MS was really bad when the 360 was big
>forced valve to either charge for updates which were free on other platforms or not release them at all
>forced big releases to go up to $60 because they wanted a bigger cut
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>>381601841
>internet explorer, netflix, youtube, etc all required gold subscriptions to use
whew was Mattrick a fucking jew, Phil Spencer is truly our guy for removing all of this.
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>>381601254
It wouldn't be possible to accidentally spoil this via 3D model anyway because we've never seen Gaius without the helmet.
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>>381589834
>this is the reason why they aren't doing glamour log

Because if they get switch/xbox they won't be able to.
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>>381602148
No, but we'd be able to confirm it was a Garlean if he had the third eye, which would lend further credence to it being Gaius.
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>>381594834
No. And if it ever did happen it would be like the vita version of pso2 and use lower graphics settings.
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>>381601073
It has really nice endgame bosses but the start of the game is an absolute slog that you might not be able to get through depending on your tolerances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbbaD658gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oLvfoanUmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJQO-age44
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>>381589834
please sony, say no. last thing i want is to play my game with a bunch of xchads and nintendies running around
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>>381601073
Just don't start with lancer or gladiator.
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>reach royal menagerie, enter blind
>instantly amazed by basically everything
>learn alongside party members, come closer with every attempt
>not even mad when we finally get him to single digits and wipe because the tanks died and our DPS got akh morn'd individually
>gather a party in PF the next day
>get closer sometimes, fuck up other times
>every party member has that one weakness to a specific mechanic they just can't pass, which eventually wipes us
>final attempt
>everyone focused as fuck, mechanics down, even weaker party members step their game up
>suddenly in single digits, anus is clenched
>clear without a single death and everyone at or nearly at full health
This is just a MSQ trial, it shouldn't get me this hyped.
Post yfw you did and/or cleared the trial the first time.
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>>381590508
And yet NA still has less data centers than japan, despite having more players
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>>381594834

Wii U was supposedly a little bit more powerful than 360 and PS3, and so far the Switch when docked has proven it's more powerful than the Wii U.
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Type-Moon crossover when?
Granblue Fantasy crossover when?

I just want Fake Assassin's sword for SAM and Kanshou and Bakuya for NIN, since we already have Excalibur and Gay Bulge
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>>381602572
Well Emps was somewhat offended by his appearance, so it's someone he recognizes and has some kind of emotional response to.
Can't be his father or son because Elidibus is too short.
Gaius fits because he was always around midlander height and as a traitor, Emps wouldn't exactly be thrilled to see him behind the mask.
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Thinking of picking this game up during the steam sale, are they still having server issues?
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>>381602752
>wipe averted twice because of healer lb and rdm raises
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>>381602752
just did it
>wiped literally on last 1% on our first go
>just ace that shit second time round with 0 issues

too bad we have to put up with lyse for another 2 years holy fuck kill me now
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>>381602752
Took our DF group 4 tries to kill it. I still didn't know what every mechanic was, I just stuck with with the group and hoped for the best.

Watching a video about it shows that all the mechanics are simple. There's just a whole lot of them and it's easy to be overwhelmed. And unlike story mode Thordan, fucking up these mechanics kills you
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Fug
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>>381603132
Not to mention Elidibus made his first-appearance after Praetorium.
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>>381603250
>steam
Don't be a retard
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>Switch
Didn't this game just drop support for the PS3?

Why would people want another low-spec shitbox holding back development?
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>>381603445
But it's cheaper
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>>381603372
>it'll only get worse
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why can't i make a cute elezen like alisaie
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>when you play your best k/d/a game ever and your GC was neck and neck for the last few hundred points

GET FUCKED FLAMES
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>>381589834
If that's the case I'm glad. I don't want SE to waste even more resources developing an xbone or switch port. Especially the switch. We just dropped the antiquated ps3, the last thing we need is to be shackled to another underpowered system.
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>>381603250
>steam
Just use the cup discount code.
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>>381603365
Story mode Thordan is just a lightshow. You practically can't die in it. I half expected this to be something similar but holy shit.

Fighting a giant dragon-god on a small platform in space
This is classic final fantasy as fuck though. I love it.
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>>381590210
>>player model and armor textures are still 256×512
I physically cringe every time there's some kind of close up in a cutscene where you can see the individual pixels in the textures. It looks fine enough from a distance but god damn some of those close ups.
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>>381589834
I thought people hated dealing with console players in mmos. Now people are angry that there aren't more of them?
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>>381591571
The game is never going to get a big graphical upgrade. I don't want it on switch either though, areas are too small and too much instanced shit as it is.
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>>381601680
and like nobody bought it for it. ps4 sales are like 5 to 1
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post your catgirls please I don't have any fashion sense I need inspiration
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>>381603565
Because adult Elezen women are beautiful, not cute.
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>>381603801
I'm a console player and everyone respects me on my server
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>>381603540
>>381603372
Queue times are good behind the wave.
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>>381603936
If you must be a cat, the boys are cuter.
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>>381603980
They talk behind your back bro.
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>>381595126
Literally what downsides? The only people that this affects negatively are the people that are already not playing because its not on their platform. I don't give a fuck about those people because they mean literally nothing to the experience right now.
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>>381589834

>wanting FF14 on Xbone or Switch instead of just playing it on PC
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>>381603961
they look strange as fuck
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>>381604201
>playing FF14
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>shitty butthurt community finally gets their way and SCH and WAR are nerfed
>now the whole game is boring as fuck
thanks idiots

Ixion mount is the only cool thing in SB
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>>381589834
>XIV specfically dropped PS3 support because they wanted to increase graphical fidelity
>switch would bring this back
>all of two people on an xbone in japan and they're both enormous westaboos that buy every CoD and line their walls with airsoft guns so they wouldn't buy FF14 anyway

either build a PC capable of running it or buy a PS4
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>>381604313
>DPS'ing on not DPS jobs made it "fun"
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>>381604436
>warrior losing self healing and damage reduction abilities so they can fell cleave more
>DPS'ing is what made it fun
nope
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>>381604313

They're both still viable. The new speedrun meta will still be SCH/AST and WAR/DRK mark my words. People just don't know it yet.
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>>381604215
Face wise you can make cute or nice looking ones. I agree that their tall nature and giraffe necks can look odd, but nothing an outfit with a high collar or necklace.
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>>381604436
this is the same shitfit people threw in Legion when they nerfed tank damage, the power creep on tank damage was getting outrageous and something needed to be done.

People bitching about homogenization and simplification and then with the same breath talking about how it's perfectly okay for tanks be doing damage near pure classes are delusional.
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>>381589834
We ain't sharing playerbase with you dumb fuckers, enjoy dead online.
Never ever
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>>381604567
>war over pld
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>>381604023
I made this in the wrong thread I thought I was in the general, apologies.
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I hate this shitty MMORPG because it siphoned all the talented people from Squeenix for years to run a fucking skinner box.
Seriously imagine how good a focused, single player FF with the team behind this one could have been instead of the shitty skinner box you faggots play.
FFXV only added insult to the injury.
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>>381604714

Go ahead, tell me what you think PLD exceeds at. You really think PLD is going to be meta when its resource meter is only used for defensive abilities Intervention and Sheltron?
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>>381604364
>increase graphical fidelity
They specifically said that isn't what they were doing with the removal of ps3.
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>>381604882
I'd rather play my dumb gay skinner box than a single player FF. Those are all garbage
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>>381602752
Cleared it on the first attempt. It's a clusterfuck but nothing that can't be healed through.

EX version will probably be nightmarish.
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>>381604567
>SCH
>speed

Lol. WHM is so far ahead in DPS that Fey Wind/Strategem doesn't even matter.

Earliest clears > Fastest clears, always.
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>>381604436
if they wanted to nerf Scholars damage that's fine. The problem is they nerfed literally everything scholar had. Now their healing and mp management is completely fucked with the worst mana regen and the most expensive but weakest heals. Fairy was already nerfed once in HW and now they nerfed it again so it's a worse healer than using regen.
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>>381604882
I think FFXV with Yoshida's team would be Witcher 3 with a FF coat.
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>>381604993
why the hell does their gauge matter? They have 5-7 fell cleaves every minute.
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why is my duty list (quest log) not showing up anymore
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>>381604993
>better more sustainable dps
>better mitigation
>better support
But hey you can do even more meme cleaves on your way to the shed
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Levi vs Ixion
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>>381605215
>Witcher 3 with a FF coat.
That would have been 100 times better than the actual XV we got.
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>drop PS3
>Talk about switch
Please stop I'll concede PS4 and XBONE but please no shitter console that will hold the game back
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>>381604993
>You really think PLD is going to be meta when its resource meter is only used for defensive abilities Intervention and Sheltron?
What they use their resource meter for is irrelevant. What matters is damage output and utility, which new PLD has a lot of both as MT and OT. If anything the fact that their damage is independent from their job gauge gives them an advantage over other tanks since they're not as penalized for stance swapping.
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>>381603903
>graphical upgrade

I just wish the game had higher graphics options, if what you have now is fine for you, then you wouldnt have to turn it up
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>>381605152
Which is fine because it's free and has other abilities. Fairy and Scholar together are meant to make a complete healer.

I agree about Adlo costing too much though and AST shields being fucking ridiculous by comparison. They probably thought they were compensating for the power of deployed Critlos even though you only get to do them every 2 minutes.
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So is SAM out of the meta due to having 0 utility?
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>kill ps3 support because it was stopping them from improving it
>we want switch support now too
I can't wait for that switch support that lasts for 1 expacs
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>Xaela arc was actually pretty good

I am pleasantly surprised
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>>381605152
someone needs to git gud
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>>381603961
they look strange as fuck
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>>381605491
and since they will be overgeared or at least a lot more prepared when farming begins. their amount of cd's just means they will use tank stance even less. remains to see if aggro will actualy be a problem since they nerfed the fucking strength.
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>>381605625
yup a 600 potency heal costing 1800 mp when there are 800 potency heals than cost 1200 mp is totally just a problem of getting good. Just use those sweet aetherflows that give less than 1 adlo worth of mp every minute.
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>>381605442
RIP Everyone and Server
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>>381600057
Literally worth it
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>>381605152
The only thing that sucks about scholar is that they are complete garbage in dungeons and I'm gonna have to level WHM or something if I want to speed run. Let's nerf and/or just get rid of all of scholars mitiagation and then not compensate them anywhere else, and nerf the fairy on top of that. Single target damage on scholar is still fine though, they might as well not even have bane at this point though
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>>381605263
>>381605397
>>381605491

PLD is the weakest tank in tank stance. Intervention and Sheltron are good but incredibly excessive now that every dps has their own sort of mitigation. Tanks should be swapping constantly and this is made even easier with Shirk, that both WAR/DRK will be rotating cds correctly anyways. PLD won't get the chance to pop all its cds in the ~2 minutes between tanks swapping.

WAR/DRK already do more dps on paper as shown by their SSS dummies not to mention all their damage is physical and affected by slashing. Not to mention, that tank damage in this tier will be largely affected by how many STR accessories a tank can pack on. A STR DRK/WAR is already pushing 3k, with WAR's holmgang and relatively short cds being especially suited to STR play.

>>381605151

Hence speedmeta. Chain Strategem is much stronger than you give it for, considering its usage will be within most class openers. It's actual contribution to overall raid dps is more or less a free aoe balance at roughly the same timer without the RNG.

Once fights are figured out, Eos will be as powerful as ever, people seem to forget that WD wasn't touched at all and she was the main reason Creator healers could stay in cleric for 99% of the time. Lustrates without having to deal with stance only make it easier while WHM has to spend GCDs.
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Why is DRG so shitty to get into life of the dragon? It takes them a full 70 seconds to do, is easy to fuck up and only gives access to nostrand. Why doesn't it also at least boost jumps a little more or mirage dive or fang/wheeling?
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>>381605609
>Best zone
>Best dungeon
>Best story arc
When I saw it in trailers I thought it was going to be the weakest zone.

The Au Ra creation lore felt unnecessarily muddled and contrived though, even if individual tribe lore was superb.
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>>381605847
Please no, 80% of PC players i've met are AFK all the time or can barely handle early EX primals.
Consoles aren't much better, but at least you have a better chance of getting a good group when the playerbase is bigger.
At least my FC is decent
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>playing on MMO
>on fucking console
But why?
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>>381605151
>tfw you do a 62+ roulette with an aggressive whm
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>>381605476
>liking Witcher 3
I guess I enjoyed following red foot steps and the god awful combat.
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>don't even notice of Zenos' mechanics because he's a human sized boss and I'm straining my eyes to see his goddamn positional marker
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>>381589834
somehow they managed to completely misconstrue the situation and fill their article with information that is completely irrelevant.

why are journos so fucking useless?
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>>381606248
He pretty much tells you out loud with voice prompts.
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>>381606125
FF14 is casual as fuck, it literally doesn't matter
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>that 50 - 60 SAM questline

it wasn't supposed to end like this
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>>381590210
>we'll never get fully uncompressed textures
Man fuck consoles and Yoshi P not wanting to take advantage of the PCs extra power
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>>381603319
I play RDM

Im lvl 62 right now

The reality i fear is that people will have this crushing expectation of me to crutch raids for them if they start dropping like flies

This itself is not the issue, granted ill do what i can if i can stop a wipe BUT the thing is that i dont wanna enable shitters just because "omfg but you have infinite insta-rezzes anyway" or "omg even though i keep dying because im a retard who cant into mechanics this RDM is shit bcuz no rezzes (even though he's also busy doing mechanics)
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>>381606001
>shown by their SSS dummies
DRKs SSS dummy has the lowest health though
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>>381606384
>muh grafix
>not wanting better mechanics
I bet you RP too
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>>381603372
Stop playing the fotm dps classes and maybe this wint be an issue
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>>381606464
The mechanics are always going to be shit just accept it fag. The least they could do is make it pretty shit
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>doing MNK story
>Tells me to go get Hamon holyfist
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>>381606392
Dying is even worse now that in Heavensward, the damage down is brutal and makes you feel useless. Not necessarily a bad thing of course.
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>>381606431

Add slashing. BP/BW. Retard. Do I really need to specific this shit.
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>>381606392
No one going into content that matters will expect RDM to use more than one Verraise per fight, if that. Not only is Weakness stronger now, your MP will take a pretty big hit.
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So leveling RDM in dungeons is just pressing Scatter?
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It's already fucking God awful on PC. Why would anyone want to play it on a Fisher price toy?
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>>381589834
I don't care about Xbone but fuck Switch, they just ditched PS3, they don't need another piece of low-spec hardware holding it back. Stormblood is a gamechanger, everything loads better, the zones are massive and filled out. Don't need switch to come along and take all that away
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>>381605442
Are there any good hunt linkshells on levi? Just transferred recently.
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So I'm new-ish to pvp and trying to get better at smn, I have a few questions.

What are the best traits and additional skills? Is ending Dreadwyrm Trance early okay if it's to secure a kill? I don't really understand what to do with Summon Bahamut, I get that he's a nice damage boost but I feel like I don't really know how to use it properly.
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>>381606464
Yeah because the battle designers are in charge of graphics options
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So...is that yda?
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>>381606792
No.
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>>381606792
yes
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>>381606792
Yda is actually dead and the person who was acting as Yda during the entire story is her sister Lyse which is the person in that picture. There's your spoiler
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>>381589834
Unrelated but I stopped playing WoW recently and I want to get into another MMO. Should I play this?
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>>381605152
>scholar mp management is fucked
why do people say this? scholars mana is much better than it was at 60
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>>381606945
maybe
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>>381606945
FFXIV is basically anime WoW with better bosses better classes and better crafting
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Fuck I didn't think I would like SAM. Send help I feel the honorable Nihon spirit entering me.
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>>381606945
There's a free trial up to level 35. Knock yourself out.
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They should stop support for the PS4 version.
The community would improve instantly.
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should i be using the level 70 sam skill whenever possible or the cheaper kenki skills?
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>>381607109
Too bad 80% of the gook playerbase plays on PS4 so they'll never get rid of it
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>>381606540
>be mathematically wrong
>b-but I mean if you look at it this way
Fuck off retard
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>>381607173
Hard to believe with those PS4 numbers in Japan.
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>>381604436
>HAHA HOW DARE YOU WANT OPTIONS, THE GAME SHOULD BE AN EXACT TO MY OCD WOW CLONE NO FUN ALLOWED

I don't even play this game since before HW, and I think you're a faggot. Options add depth, even if it's minor like in this case.
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>>381603936
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What about DQX?
I don't think they can force the Sony safe space on MMOs.
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>>381604436
>spamming a single heal the entire dungeon is more fun than helping dps
This isn't WoW where all the mobs hit for 50% of the tanks hp every hit. Pull your weight
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>>381606972
>>381606987
>>381607034
Thanks lads I'll try it.
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>>381606959
>aetherflow halved
>healing costs increased significantly more than other healers heals while at the same time having less potency

lucid dreaming doesn't make up for what they lost. There Mp regen is fucked right now
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>>381607205

>incapable of realizing Holy Spirit is magic damage after months of it being known
>thinking SSS dps is a direct correlation to actual raid dps

You must also think SAM is le epic OP meanwhile NIN is buttfucking every class in the game in a back alley.
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>>381606493
I will in like 3 hours when these queues and shitty cutscenes and billion line credits are over god
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>>381603961
they look strange as fuck
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>>381607109
There's more console than PC users in Japan.

They will never drop console support because it would mean abandoning their Japanese players.
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>>381606540
>slashing
Affects PLDs too.

>muh Blood Weapon
>muh Blood Price
Post hard data or fuck off.
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>>381606367
SAM questline was kino, also great how the duties actually required and told you to use things like AoE or look out for tells from the enemy that aren't big circles on the ground.
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>Remove PS3 Limitations
>Want to add Switch limitations

oh boy
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>>381607109

And most of them still better than PC players
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>>381607516
That's the seedseer I know.
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>>381607254
PC gaming is super niche in Japan. Most PC "gamers" in japan only play VNs and eroges
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Zenos did literally nothing wrong.
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>>381607587
Well you can play it on ps4 with a keyboard and mouse as well as your controller, so the only advantage pc players have is potentially more powerful machines (and many of them won't actually have that either).
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>>381606001
>Tanks should be swapping constantly
Which hurts your dps as swapping stances wastes your job gauge... unless you're a PLD in which case your job gauge doesn't matter for your dps anyway. Nevermind that PLD has enough cooldowns to get away with not swapping to begin with.
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>>381601254
Where's this line from? A sidequest?
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>>381607898
The MSQ, you cutscene skipper.
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>>381607464
you get you're most mana back with energy drain aetherflow nerf doesn't even make much difference, lucid dreaming more than makes up for it
i think your just bad
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>>381607470
>doesn't realize it not only gets buffed by another move but gets replenished by the physical string you'll be using while FoF is up
It's like you know nothing about tanks, about what I expect from a war reeeeeeeing his way to the shed
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>>381607772
>Literal weeb manchild
>"Psh you and I are the same..."
He's the most pathetic antagonist of FFXIV so far, especially considering the post credits scene.
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>Decide to give XIV a go since all the Stormblood Hype
>Level to 25 so far
>have like 3 abilities
>Queues take a literal hour unless you're a tank
>No one actually uses the chat in the game, every zone is dead silent.
>Doesn't seem to have any distinct features that separate it from WoW
>Long ass global cool down but its a console game so thats to be expected
>Particle effects on your spells make group content an absolute cluster fuck
>have to level up my class so I can unlock a class to level up my class
>huge gameplay mechanics locked behind the main quest line so you spend too much time running between NPCs then skipping a cutscene.

I imagine the game gets better once you unlock a real class but I am not impressed so far.
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>>381607772
Even isekai anime have better writing than this
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>>381607898
>>381607974
It's not from the MSQ, it's from the side-quest chain Castrum Oriens, the aether current one involving an investigation in Bitter Mill.
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>>381607772
>You're the only person that actually understands and respects Zenos in the end, and even agree with what he says about only enjoying the thrill of saving the world
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>>381608274
Zenos really was /ourguy/
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>>381608235
>No one actually uses the chat in the game, every zone is dead silent.

Because 3 fucking instances. Hunts are fucked.
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When even reddit has become aware of how fucked scholars are something is definitely wrong with them. You gotta be a special kind of retard to think they are fine.
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>>381607526

MT PLD gets a shield swipe every 15s. Holy spirits are not affected by slashing.
MT DRK gets a bit over a bloodspiller and DA every 40. Bloodspiller is affected by slashing.

Do the math yourself, faglord.

>>381608061

It was already factored into its SSS damage to begin with. Why would I care about it? Dumbass.

>>381607885

Shirk.
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>>381608358
That he was anon, that he was
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>>381608168
>anon thinks he isn't a weeb man child
Nigger youre playing a final fantasy mmo and talking about it on 4chan
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>>381608235

the start is pretty bad even by hand holding standards, there's a point you think you're finally free but then they send you to the other 2 main hubs where other players start.

the recent 100% exp bonus on designated realms lets you level more than comfortably solely through the main questline + job quests. it's how it should be by default desu
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>>381590042
>switch is too underpowered for our next expansion so no port

This is true though
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>>381607772
is that prince arthas?
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>>381607974
I didn't skip the MSQ, you nitwit.

>>381608262
Thanks man, that's a good enough reminder to start doing SB sidequests.
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>>381608274
>achieves the highest form of happiness he possibly can through his battle with you
>captures this moment by killing himself while he is still in this state of bliss before he loses it
>in the end he still won
I liked it.
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>>381608440
>Do the math yourself, faglord.
You're the one trying to prove a point. Again, post hard data or fuck off.

>Shirk.
What has Shirk to do with literally anything in that post? Tank swapping hurts your dps if you're not a PLD. Shirk isn't going to miraculously recover half your job gauge.
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>>381608440
Oh so now all this shit is already factored in and drk still had the weakest SSS dummy, get your argument straight retard
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>>381607390
>glasses
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>>381608235
honestly. the game will only start to get good at the end of a realm reborn (then it will suck again until heavensward). finishing heavensward and starting stormblood the game will be really great. but yeah. it will take some time.
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>>381606546
On the contrary, rdm can handle 9 raises without any bother to their mp. It literally lasts that long despite only having lucid as its mp gain because everything it has, aoe included, is ridiculously cheap. Apart from the GCDs spent raising and the natural consequence of slowing down the burst phases, raising 9 times will not affect the rdm. The 10th will murder them though.
Although, depends how far apart these raises are, I suppose. Either way, it doesn't hit their dps like it would a smn, and it's definitely better for rdm to do the first five or so raises before a healer unless a whm has BOTH thin air AND swiftcast at the ready for the raise.
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make sure to brush your cat's fur every day to keep it neat
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>>381608490
Finished that chain up and am now being forced through the starting dungeon which is such a fucking chore. I have to put my game completely on hold and just sit around and wait for an hour long timer to buzz. Then hope to god the servers dont shit the bed on me

I just wish I had a skip tutorial button
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>>381608468
I don't own a rotisserie of katanas, I don't have greasy long hair, I don't wear mascara and I don't talk in juvenile metaphors about "the hunt."
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>>381608675

>new player
>get through 2.0
>about 20 quests into 2.1-2.5 and i'm overwhelmed with all these new dungeon unlocks along the way
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>>381607526

And also DRK gets abilities adjusted specifically for the MT role while PLD literally just gets more oath gauge. PLD's holy spirits are affected by Shield Oath as well while DRK's Bloodspillers get potency boosts, PLD is literally a defensive OT, as a MT it's purely defensive with no offensive ability.

Anyways see you faggots in 1 month. Keep preening PLD's dick so much Yoshi thinks PLD is actually overpowered and buffs WAR/DRK.
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>>381608490
>tfw get to level 30 with near maximum exp boost equips before ifrit

Shit was ridiculous. it's also gotten rid of my tank anxiety
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why does yoshi hate tanks, healers and mexicans
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>>381608235
>skipping the cutscenes
You're gonna hate this game desu just quit now
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>>381603427
he also didn't appear in the mass Ascian scene at the end of 2.0 story

but I'm still doubtful, he does appear immediately after moogle shits in 3.1, that's a very short time to take up that role
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Is lucid dreams needed for Rdm? My Scholar would be fucked without it, but I don't notice any big needs for it IV dungeons thus far, even when I'm ressing and give the healer my mana
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>>381608774
Plz skip the dungeons and run through the msq like a hot cock. you will get burned otherwise.
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>>381608762
And you're still a weeb man child
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what's up with those phoenix premades in pvp that just hunt players and ignore objectives?
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>>381608883
Yeah? I hate movie games. if cutscenes are required to enjoy this than I'm out
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>>381609030
Good riddance. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>381608987
Your taste in husbandos is just shit, Anon.
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>Royal Menagerie is permanently 4:30pm
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i am an elezen and chokers look awful on me

do they look better on hyur characters? this is a literal dealbreaker for me at this point.
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>>381609241
Only wear high collar gear and have long hair.
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>>381609092
>husbandos
>trying to prove he isn't a weeb
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>>381608359

I though the instances were a temporary measure and going away in a few weeks?
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>>381609610
Yea, they're just for the bulge.
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>>381608915

burned as in missing out on the new expansion hype?

i'd understand that, trying to keep on course
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>>381589834
I fucking love how misinformed gaming websites are
>When ARR was becoming a thing
>Yo hey MS want us to port ARR to Xboner?
>Nah man fuck crossplay shit
>oh ok
yet apparently is Sony holding it back
Not even defending Sony but come on now
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>Use Displacement against Titan
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>>381606367
>my pupil turned into a murderer
>the master must atone by killing himself
Two nukes weren't enough.
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>>381606367
2nd best storyline behind DRK 30-50, the final fight was worth the wait
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>jump off azim khaat
>that dropping feeling in stomach
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>>381609874
t. honoress piggu
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Some early testing shows that 1 point of crit is worth close to 0.01% critical hit rate. 1400 crit is only 14% more. Crtical hit rate may be a garbage stat and people who already melded VIs to all their gear might have jumped the gun and wasted a bunch of seals buying it.
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>>381608761

here's a tip for when you keep getting asked to go to a place named the waking sands

>teleport to limsa lominsa
>use aetherite to arcanist's guild
>take ferry there to vesper bay
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>>381610171
Only faster if you have fast loading screens because that method requires two loading screens instead of one.
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>>381589834
>drop PS3 support
>announce Switch support
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>>381603936
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Why don't we just get all of the beast tribes to summon their primals, and then we throw all of the primals at Garlemald?

Each one is the equivalent of a natural disaster right? Wouldn't take long for 10 primals to just destroy their forces.
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>tfw DRK 60-70 was fucking awesome
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>>381606537
I rather have a damage down than instantly dying to the next mechanic because my HP are too low. It's better this way because there's no snowball effect anymore.
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>>381604436

DPS'ing is one thing, but with this "homogenization" they've pretty much reworked Scholar to be more like WHM/AST, when it doesn't function (core-wise) like either of them, so now it's just a mess. It functioned perfectly before, but I don't even think the developers know what they're doing with SCH right now. At least WAR still functions it should, even if it's more boring to play. SCH no longer functions like it once did AND it's become boring to play.
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>>381610310
Minfillia already thought to do that in 1.0
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>>381610310
They kill the planet every second they are alive.
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>Do the Azim Steppe portion
>Slowly come to hate nearly all the tribes except the Mol and Qesitir

Goddamn am I glad to be done with that shithole.
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What are you guys buying with your GC seals? I'm maxed out
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>>381610276
You don't know anything if you think PS3 is anywhere close to Switch in specs.
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>>381610274
How long is the trip from horizon with the mount speed buff
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>>381610417
Cordials and Ventures.
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>>381590318
>>381590848
Can confirm game runs on toaster
I play this game at lowest graphics with 15fps cap and it works
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>>381606106
At least half the idleshire populati9n is console players

Nothing would change, the game would just go from like 400k (or whatever the fuck it is) to 200k total players, which is still fine
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WHO ELSE HAS ALL TOMESTONE GEAR, LAKSHMI ACCESSORIES AND SUSANO WEAPONS AND FULLY MELDED?
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>>381610406
I just did the aether current quests and MSQ and skipped pretty much all of them except the Dotharl when I needed that little bit of a push to 67
>>381610417
Ventures and Dark Matter (overpriced)
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>Empire cannot use magic so they use magitek instead
>Empire recently has been working on a process to give soldiers the ability to use magic, or boost people who can use magic even further along with the echo
>This process has the possibility of turning the person crazy to varying degrees.

Holy shit! Are they foreshadowing a possible kefka in the next expansion?
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>wait 35 minutes for queue
>fighting the final boss of Castrum Abania
>wipe at 1%
>wipe at 1%
>Tank DC's at 60%
>wipe at 5%
>wipe at 18%
>vote abandon because everyone's gear is fucked
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>>381610326
>mfw that last quest
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>>381610540
They kind of already did that with the Warring Triad questline which baits you into painting Regulos as some supervillain when in reality he's more of a General Leo
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>>381610531
Now I really do wonder why Garlemald didn't come fuck them over. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have stood a chance.
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>it's a last boss is absolutely zero fun because everyone is already farming it so you just die over and over to mechanics while the overgeared party members silently clear it without you episode
If real life hadn't conspired its timing specifically to fuck me up for this I would have been here like 4 days ago but no fuck me why would I get to enjoy anything in this game
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>>381610406
literally have no idea what i'm doing here in terms of story as i've skipped all the dialogue.

the tribes and characters look incredibly shit
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>>381610529
>Who else has a sock full of poop resting on their desk RIGHT NOW
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>>381610326
>>381610596
I tire of this charade
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>>381607998
>You get your mana back with Energy Drain
>Energy Drain

Anon, you get like 930 MP back with that with just one, unless you're reserving all 3 for Energy Drain only.
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Fuck they made tanks weak as fuck and unfun to play. Is pld truly the only correct answer? Drk and war aren't strong enough.
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>>381610690
It is said the tribes are actually a match for Garlemald and not worth the effort because the Steppe is a shithole with no resources.
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>>381610890
I'm hearing this for a lot of classes. It seems like in an attempt to promote synergy (of some kind) the devs pruned abilities and in some cases right fucked over some jobs. You're probably better off with PLD right now most likely.
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>>381608894
>that one Ascian baldy who got retconned with Lightning's hair the update after
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>>381607998
Lucid only brings back Aetherflow back to pre-nerf also yeah let me just waste 3 aether stacks on energy drain instead of heals
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>>381610326
goddamn that was a cool as shit ending
WOE BETIDE THE MAN WHO STANDS AGAINST THE WEAPON OF LIGHT
>>381610690
its a shithole not worth taking over and dealing with the tribes would be a huge pain because theyd all constantly fight them
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>>381610917
Was this stated in a sidequest. The only thing I remember is Gosestu thinking that because they're so fierce they'd probably beat them back. Though, I figure if Garlemald was really having so much trouble, they'd probably just carpet bomb them.
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>trading PS3 limitations for Switch limitations

Imagine if this game was PC only like every other fucking MMO
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>>381610085
Jokes on you, I'm a bard and crit will never be not the best stat for me.

Also VIs are like 100k each only on tonberry.
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>>381611095
>32 bit limitations
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>>381609030
This game is a mainline final fantasy game so if you came into it with other expectations then you might be a little retarded
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>>381610449

I have the 1/2 star increase and it probably takes just a few seconds longer than using Limsa if you have an SSD.

If you need to go do something you can just take the chocobo from horizon anyway
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>>381611163
Its an MMO, story never matters in MMOs unless you're an RPfag
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post yfw our guy is back
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>>381611226
It's a mainline FF game. Story always matters in a mainline FF game.
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>>381611092
MSQ, you are told that early on when you enter.
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>>381611297
The way you keep saying main line makes me think its not mainline and you have a chip on your shoulder

FF9 was the last good game in the series mainline or not
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>>381606705
PVP skills are set per class now. What you see on your hotbar is what you get.
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>>381611226
>story never matters in MMOs unless you're an RPfag

Well, it matters in this one.
And The Old Republic.
And The Secret World.

And even more of them with increasing frequency.
Also Blizzard has always wanted you to care about WoW's story. It's just that nobody does.
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>>381611402
Enjoy your mainline FF MMORPG.
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>>381611402
FF14 is a numbered title so it's a main entry
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>>381610864
You bet your ass I chose that line without hesitation.
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>>381611226
t. Celestalon
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>>381611095
Do you want pay to win korean grind fests with no content?
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>>381606705
You want bolt to get the fuck outta dodge cause your a weak ass, defenseless ranged mage as well as the pink mana thing cause you don't wanna run outta of that.
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>>381589834
>playing an mmo on console
>>
>RDM in PvP
>My only slow is my aoe melee attack
>So unless it's 1v1 I get my asshole slapped trying to slow anybody so I can kill them.
This is fucking dumb.
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>>381611402

Numbered title = Main series entry.

This isn't hard.
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>>381606525
>Better go get your umbrellas, because it's about to rain fists!
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>>381603961
they look strange as fuck
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How fucked up should I expect wait times to be for Satasha?
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>>381611487
>its a main line game guys its mainline, ITS FUCKING MAINLINE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW!!

What made you this way anon?
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>>381609241
Glamour the invisible necklaces. I do it on mine and it works fine.
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>>381611708
Is something wrong with you anon? You seem really hung up on this simple statement
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>>381611649
Yes hello you have an engage that has a low cd. Use it to chase people down.
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>>381611328
Ah, so it is what I was thinking then. Thanks.
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>>381611510
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>>381611701
Join a linkshell or free company or even the novice network and ask someone to unsync it with you
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>>381611708
>Someone states a fact.
>"What made you this way anon?"

Next you'll be telling us that World of Warcraft isn't a mainline Warcraft title just because it's an MMO.
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>>381608915
dont listen to this idiot. Do all dungeon at least once
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>>381611503
same
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>>381611701
Why would the wait times be long for Satasha?
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>>381611253
Hey it's that guy who should have died in The Praetorium instead of becoming a literal tool the developers use to force the story along
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>>381609241
Not really
All races suffer from long necks.
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>>381611998
Don't bully best boy Nero thanks
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>>381611701
>get on Paladin
>5 minute wait
>get on Monk
>40 minutes

MMO trinity was a mistake
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Are people stupid as fuck? The issue before was years ago microsoft told them to fuck off and they wanted their own servers while steam and PS4/PS3 established their crossplay

Can't believe dumb fucks are pretending sony has anything to do with Microsoft fucking around

>Attempts to bring the game to Xbox 360 consoles fell through due to disagreements with Microsoft about the use of Xbox Live.

Plus after the XV sales compared to PS4 they would be wasting resources on a dead platform
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>botting PVP so I can have tomes for my alts due to insane dps queues
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yeah let's shackle more bricks to this mmo it's already has problems on the platforms it has to carry.
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>>381611947
You guys seem really touchy about this. I'm guessing its a thing between you and the mainline weebs that this one isn't a real FF game
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Almost no Secure or Seize tonight.
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wat do now before omega
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>>381612051
Why can't devs ever seem to make tanks and healers fun to play
Is it because those are containment roles for self important retards and people's girlfriends?
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>>381612162
level something else and do the same thing again
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>>381611095
Tera is coming to PS4.
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>>381611850
>Jump in to melee
>Instantly hit with 6 on-demand slows
>Explode
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>>381590042

This.
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>>381612121
Not really you're the only one who seems to care for some reason
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>>381611985

DPS queues are ridiculous at early levels. They actually get better the more you level.
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>>381589834
>Sony has previously opted not to support cross-platform online player for Rocket League
Yeah because PS4/PC cross-play wasn't already a thing since it launched on PS4.
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>>381612121
>this one isn't a real FF game

...What?
>Final Fantasy in the title
>Made by Square Enix
How is this not a real Final Fantasy game?
Even the spin-off titles like Crystal Chronicles and Tactics are real Final Fantasy games.

That was a dumb statement and you should feel stupid for making it.
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>>381612214
I probably have enough totems to gear up another job funnily enough.
I don't find much else fun other than NIN, I haven't tried Haven't tried SAM or RDM yet though.
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>>381611649
RDM is PVP is all about sniping. You build up your black and white then wait for the best opportunity to lunge at someone, melee them to death and finish with holy/flare. If they aren't a tank, they won't survive.
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>>381612189
If they were any more complicated than they are then there would be even less. People don't avoid tanks and healers because they are boring, they avoid them because they actually have responsibility i.e. the group will die if you don't do your job to at least a bare minimum level.

DPS on the other hand can spend 100% of the time dead or AFK and still get clears in any non-savage/extreme content. They exist just to make things go faster and so dumbshits can play them as a spectator job and press only whichever buttons they happen to feel like pressing, and if they die or are complete shit, it doesn't matter because the rest of the party will carry them.
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>>381612374
See what I'm saying. You're getting so triggered over a statement I didn't even make. A fucking implication.
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>>381612324
>Yda
>Terrible liar

She successfully lied right to hour faces for years.
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>>381612121
You do know one of the reasons 1.0's failure hit Squeenix so fucking hard was because it was considered the first mainline FF to flop that horribly?
There wasn't even a subtitle for XIV.
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>>381612543
Literally only the WoL didn't know she was faking it.

Honestly the dumbest twist ever btw because it has no impact on Stormblood's plot and you never even met the real Yda anyway.
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>>381612471
>muh responsibility
>containment role for self important retards
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>>381612527
>a statement I didn't even make

>"The story doesn't matter, it's an MMO!"
>It does though, because it's a mainline FF game, and stories always matter in those.
>"Why does it being mainline matter?"
>Because it means the story matters.
>"But it's an MMO!"
Retard.
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>>381610589
Got thrown into that at the last boss because I forgot to take off join midway. Kinda sour that I didn't get to experience the dungeon but also glad that it only took a few minutes.
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>>381612612
Not yet anyway. There's still 5 patches worth of story remaining before the next expansion.
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>>381612527
>wow guys I may be a retard but would you please stop being so triggered about it
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>>381612612
>never even met the real Yda anyway.
>he didnt play 1.0
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>>381612706
I don't wanna hang around with Lyse anymore. Please god take her away.
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>>381612690
It's a final fantasy game before it's an MMO there's about 130 hours of main story quest before end game. Why are you being so autistic about this?
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>>381612789
It was Lyse back then too. It has always been Lyse, even during her initial introduction in 1.0.

Didn't you listen when she explained it? Yda died a long fucking time ago. She has been wearing that mask and pretending to be her ever since she came to Eorzea.
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>>381612669
Just telling it like it is. Doesn't mean tanking and healing isn't piss easy anyway, but they can cause the group to wipe if they utterly fail to do their job, and for that reason most people avoid tanks and healers.

You only need to look at the average Duty Finder DPSer to see the average player's level of competence.
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>>381612789
The real Yda died before 1.0.
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When's the earliest we'll see job balancing? 4.1?
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>>381612974
Yep.
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>>381612974
If people complain enough, most likely. I still can't believe they actually thought SCH was okay
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>>381612324
>is a slob when home alone
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>>381590848
The whole reason they took it off the PS3 was because it didn't have enough VRAM to handle the big areas they wanted to do in HW and now SB. It's why ARR's zones are fucking tiny.

Putting it on the Switch would just be constraining it to another hardware limitation that would reduce the quality of future expansions.
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>>381612901
THAT'S WHAT I FUCKING SAID RETARD LEARN TO READ

I AM FUCKING AGREEING WITH YOU
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How do you guys with mmo mouses arrange your hotbars?
>>
It's definitely a sony thing, not a squeenix thing
case in point: rocket league
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>you will never be a translizardnigger living in the calm lands
why even live
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>>381602654
Love Niddhogg
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>>381611998
Hey.
Go fuck yourself.
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>>381602752
>reached menagerie yesterday as DRK, whole group going in blind
>instant wipe from tidal wave behind us when we were all expecting a breath attack
>figure out every other mechanic on the second try
>clear with no problems

>fc buddy asks me to queue with him so he can clear tonight
>I'm avoiding spoilers so he can have the same amazing experience I did
>PLD gives a brief and shitty explanation of some mechanics
>leaves several out entirely
>bitches at me to turn on my tank stance, despite only really needing it for phase transition
>falls off the edge IMMEDIATELY in phase 2
>group keeps fucking up akh morn
>wipe after wipe after wipe
>eventually got a headache and went to bed

Serves me right for helping someone out, huh.
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>>381613152
>Wanting to live in Africaland

Come on Anon
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>>381612914
>>381612961
Echo you stupid niggers
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>>381610995
I rather drop tanking I really like drk and wanted to 70 it.
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Reminder that Yoshi wouldn't seek to put it on the Switch after just killing PS3 and older PC hardware if he felt it would limit the game somehow.
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>>381613359
Eorzea is africa, m8
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So I'm confused. Was Lyse just pretending to be super dumb the whole time she was Yda? Also, why did she wear the mask?
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>>381613384
I can't really fault you for that at all.
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>>381613319
Are you meant to stack for Shinryu's Akh Morns? They don't use the stack marker and the damage seems survivable by one person so I dunno.
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What's with these dumb foxes everyone likes so much? What do they do.
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>>381612919
>DF
The average DF tank can't keep aggro unless I'm shadewalking him constantly and DF healers all just stand there doing nothing, at least a DF dps tries to do his role
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>>381612324
i hate "cinnamon roll" as a descriptor because that shit is nasty as fuck
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So what is this shit? A HD FF mmo with proper dungeons and real time combat?
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>>381613408
I dunno, I just got more of an africa vibe with all the tribes in Azim Steppe living there, fighting each other, and attempting to fuck each other over for power and control and what all.
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>>381613516
They come from a series of fates that acted like Proto Ultima did in Heavensward with not nearly the length needed to spawn. They also give a fox ears headpiece.
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>>381613570
That's pretty much Mongolia.
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>>381613516
they collect yen for you
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>>381613460
No. They're targeted at each tank.
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>>381613570
tribal conflict isn't unique to africa. They seem blatantly mongol if anything
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>>381613570
The steppes are literally ancient Mongolia
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>>381613319
To be fair the average quality of the players is pretty shitty. I like that they made it a harder than average instance to clear the msq. Even wiping was fine because it still let me practice my rotations while dealing with the mechanics which are all pretty easy when broken down.
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>>381613460
only tanks should stack for shinryu's akh morns
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>>381613379

You still didn't "Meet" the real Yda, you only saw memories of her.
>>
If I was a mostly honest healer before, do the SCH changes affect me at all?

inb4mad
>>
>spend 5 hours in Susano PF groups
>not a single kill to show for it because it always came down to that one guy who misplaces thunder or cloud and wipes the group
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>>381613547
Blatant lies. If healers just stood there doing nothing then you literally couldn't clear the dungeon barring exceptional circumstances like a Paladin or Red Mage with enough versatility to heal. A tank that can't hold aggro is more survivable but you still need a healer that knows what they are doing otherwise the mobs will just end up killing everyone. If that level of play was the norm then you wouldn't even clear most dungeons.

By comparison DPS are routinely seen hitting abilities at random, just auto-attacking, or even doing literally nothing. They can even be dead on the floor and the run can progress as normal. You don't see the "Ice Mage" equivalent among tanks and healers because people who are that terrible are weeded out of those roles long before they get to higher level content.
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>>381610890
Put on Strength Accessories.
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>>381614084
>guy demands discord
>its a drg
>most of the time in discord is him bitching about others not being in discord or him claiming that lag killed him
>>
>Thancred's seiyuu is in the main credits for Soroban instead of Thancred
kek

Also have Cirina's voice's cat getting EB'd a couple years ago
>>
>be tank and don't know mechanics
>get shit on
>be dps and don't know mechanics
>no one cares and explains things
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This game looks like shit
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>want to play a qt highlander girl
>don't want to explain i'm not a girl to everyone I meet
You just can't win
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>>381589834
Sony isn't holding back shit. Sony doesn't allow cross-play on games hosted on their servers or using their network, games using their own servers are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. This is purely on SE, they're literally passing the buck because they can't be assed to do the work needed to sync all four platforms.
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>>381614469
Most players assume neckbeards play female characters. You should be good as long as you don't pretend to act like a girl.
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>>381613435
I honestly am thinking whm or brd I actually leveled mch for this expac but the class plays weird now.

I like the minimized bloat but they did not consider the actual fun factor for the simplified classes. The vital change was awful.
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>>381610712
i wish there was a single player version of this game so i could enjoy the story and bosses myself, i only get to play for about 2 hours per day so there's no way i get to experience things blind with everyone else, it ruins it for me.
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>>381614469
Don't worry anon, real girls play catboys.
>>
I wanna play PvP and do neat stuff like Feast. What's better as far as healers go? AST or WHM? Can't imagine SCH doing much right now. Is AST still king?
>inb4 wrong game for PvP
I've compared this to the "top pvp mmos" I'll take FFXIV's lackluster PvP over the hot mess people call Gw2 and BDO thanks.
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>>381614084
This really starting to wear on my patience.
It's simple yet they're fucking up every time.
Half the time "clear" parties don't even make it past the fucking Swords, and joining parties starting from the top is either a complete shitshow or slow and gradual progress.
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>>381614593
They are avoiding saying that they don't want to support Switch's shitty hardware and don't want to deal with Microsoft.
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>>381613658
>>381613740
>>381613743
Looking back, yeah that makes sense. Been a while since I've read anything on Mongolia
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>>381614664
Can confirm this, I joined a guild and nine out of the twelve members were girls playing gay catboys.
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>>381614629
I was thinking of leveling MCH to 70. How does it play? What about Wildfire? We've lost all the buffs, so how much damage can you put out with it now?
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>>381614714

What got me the most was that the first PF I joined was a learning group because I was new to the fight. Our best attempt was 2% before the reset.

Since then I've joined 4 more PFs labelled as clear parties and none of them even reached 15% before enrage.

I've lost about 5 hours of my life tonight watching people commit the same mistakes over and over.
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>>381612974
Yep. Knowing SE it will be until 4.3 before some of the shittier jobs feel like they're in a better spot.
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>jump puzzle to get to the top of the hostelry in Kugane
IT'S SO SHIT BUT MY AUTISM DEMANDS I CLEAR IT
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>>381614436
I stopped playing tank for this when I started. I got back into it now since it's a new expac and it's refreshing as fuck doing content blind like Susanoo and the lvl 65 dungeon.

Also the Susanoo theme is godlike. REJOICE
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>>381614779
I mean yeah, but there's also the fact of every console having its own patch quality control and certification pipeline. Which means, with it being cross-play all four would have to be on the same version, so they would have to split the team into four every time they need to push out the patch, then hold the ones that pass cert first until the others pass cert. We all know SE doesn't wanna deal with that shit. So we're just gonna blame sony because they have an internal policy that doesn't let other companies take control of their servers and networks. Sony can fuck up easily, but in this case they're being used as a scapegoat when they did literally nothing wrong.
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>>381605575
All my susano and lakshmi ex clears have samurai topping everything. we even got another samurai yesterday. utility just doesn't even matter right now.
my group is 2 sam 1 rdm 1 nin.
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>>381612162
Get a job.
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>>381610890
>drk
>the job that can ignore tank busters every 15s
>in the right hands, the hardest-hitting tank in the game
>weak
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>>381607390
>Fashion sense.
Picture not related.
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>>381614890
git gud or find a static
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>>381614679
pvp is completely different now (for the better in most peoples opinion) and a job's pve performance has little to do with pvp. Like summoners don't even have egis in pvp. I can't tell you sch is fine in pvp because I haven't tried it but just looking at their pvp abilities they look like the most damage oriented of the three healers and their damage abilitiy drains mp and tp which sounds amazing
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>>381614469
>to everyone you meet

Why would you bother explaining it to anyone? It doesn't matter even in the slightest.

Unless someone is hitting on you because they think your character is attractive it or something has no bearing on anything and most people you play with you will never see again beyond FC members.
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>>381615340

Half my static got cucked my server nonsense and can't get into Balmung without queuing for hours.
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>>381615226
Just more miserable tards looking for reasons to be angry. Would have complained about literally any change, including no change.
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>>381614880
Permanent mildfires,heat mechanic gimp the class to like 54,overheat is a waste of time and flamethrower has very few practical uses. It's similar to SB monk where most of the new moves are lame but instead of being like monk and being similar it plays worse and is arguably more difficult in some aspects pre sb
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>>381614292
>he's never had a run with a /follow sch
Also you are really building evidence to support the self important retards claim
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>>381613564
It's a slower version of WoW that was MacGyvered into the FF13 engine which means everything is really unresponsive and laggy but happens to be aesthetically pleasing so (e)roleplayers are obsessed with it.
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>>381615446
serves you right for playing there
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>>381614890
That's been more or less my experience today as well.
Haven't even reach enrage since first group actually.
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>>381614593
>>381615081
SE didn't say anything about Sony, that was Gamespot's useless writer and OP's faggotry you retards
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>thunder
>blizzard
>scathe
>blizzard
>scathe
>blizzard
>scathe

repeat

change blizzard for fire on bosses and transpose when you go OOM to squeeze out more fire casts

wow, exciting
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>>381614469
you know your character doesn't have to be some projection of yourself
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>>381613408
More North Africa, though. Can't map it all 1:1 with Earth but you got your Barbary Coast pirates and your pharaohs of Egypt and, before the Romans fucked them over hard, Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia were known as a veritable granary with thick forests and wildlife and fertile soil. Framed by a mountain range, too. Pre-2.0 Ishgard would also fit in that general area of good Mediterranean land. Ala Mhigo would then probably be getting up into the region of Israel and Jordan.

Meracydia sounds like it's the Central/South Africa (continental region) to Eorzea's North Africa.
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>>381615529

Sooner or later if this doesn't fix itself my resentment for Balmung will even overpower the social network that keeps me here. SE were utterly retarded for not locking Balmung months, maybe even years ago.
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>>381615463
I'm really beginning to doubt these gameplay changes SE made.
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>>381614469
Girls play either cat boys or cat girls. No one else assumes you're a girl otherwise.
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>>381615776
But everyone plays cat girls
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>>381613058
The switch got quite a lot of VRAM, at least if compared to the PS3.
The constraint would not be even close to as bad.
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>>381615226
Hardest hitting sure but the tank changes mean tanks are hittinng for less in general and optimizing dps seems to be discouraged with all of these resource locks. It's not that drk is a bad tank is that tanks in general are weak with pld having more utility and less reliance on gauge for damage.
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>call a bunch of early hunt pullers faggots in shout chat
>start a interguild shitstorm

i have no regrets
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>>381615621
Look at this fucking shitter everybody
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>>381615501
I'd enjoy seeing someone try to do any dungeon over lvl 50 as SCH without ever touching anything and letting Eos try to solo heal. My bet is that they don't get past the second pull.

Don't have to be self important to understand that the tank/healer bare minimum is higher than the dps bare minimum and it is for that reason why there are shortages of the former. Notice how it's the same in EVERY mmo? There's always too many DPS and not enough tanks and healers, no matter how they are designed.

But I can see you're set on defending the honor of duty finder DPS tards so I won't argue it anymore.
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>>381616351
gaf'd
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And servers are dying again.
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>>381616405
Not since it was nerfed.

But it was damn easy to do that in 3.xx
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>>381615378
I don't know how I manage to do that, but it seems I write in an "androgynous" way ? Most people assume I'm a girl after talking with me if my char is a girl.
Keep in mind I never use stupid smileys like "^^ xD x) :3" etc. Maybe there are a lot of thirsty virgins in the game I don't know.
But it's very annoying, especially if it's a game I'm invested into like FF XIV.
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>>381616365
It's the most sustained damage I can do at my level
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>>381615642
Meracydia is definitely the africa to eorzea's europe/mediterranean europe, sphinx-like creatures (that the constructs in azys lla are based on) are attributed to come from meracydia, and so are cats - and if it wasnt obvious enough, seeker tribal names are african inspired.
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>tfw doing Beast Tribe Quests
It feels kind of good to have something concrete to do each time I log in rather than running around aimlessly

Also I like helping the fellas out

How many of you guys finished your beast tribe quests?
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>>381616405
>bare minimum
>tank: spam aggro move
>healer: spam cure on tank
>dps: do your rotation perfectly or listen to the tank and healer whine at you all dungeon and turn get kicked right before the final boss, sooner if you defend yourself
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>>381591163
Raiden V is an Xbox One release. Japan only I think.
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>>381616719
Did all of them but ixal and moogles, fuck crafting
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>>381615621
Listen here you fucking faggot, your rotation is
Fire until OOM
Blizard
Thunder
Transpose
Fire until OOM
fucking repeat.

Once you get Fire3/Blizzard 3, you don't need to transpose outside of flare.
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>tfw you actually really enjoy the new SCH
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I've been reading Y'shtola like Yashtola for 4 years and I don't even know why
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>mfw The Royal Menagerie
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>play SMN
>learned SCH
>can ride healer queues and still level up my main DPS
>already 69, can hit 70 over the weekend
>can spend the entire week gearing up for Omega
I don't have any happy faces saved so have Bartz and Boko
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>>381589834
Wait, Switch can actually run FFIV? As in an actual MMO? Just how powerful is the Switch?
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>>381615776
>Girls play either cat boys or cat girls.

My ex rolled a Highlander because she wanted a character with bigger tits.
Though she was never satisfied with the face.
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Is enochian managed by the Astral/Umbral buff now?
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Got silver in the Ixion fate on Balmung with no regrets.
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>>381616719
Finished all HW tribes, plus ixali and sylphs. HW ones are cool, and I don't really like ARR's tribes.
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Guys, is the 70 BLM aoe rotation
>Blizzard IV - Fire III - Flare - Flare - Transpose - Thunder IV - Blizzard IV - repeat
With some Fouls mixed in when they're ready? Or should I throw in some Fire IIs as well?
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>>381589834

He's not saying crossplay is impossible because of Sony. He's saying crossplay would be impossible unless Microsoft and Nintendo get on Sonys level but the problem with that is Sony obviously wont help Microsoft and Nintendo do this.
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>>381616887
>Not doing Ixal
They are super easy and they level up twice as fast as the other tribes. Im already on Friendly with the Ixal while I'm neutral to the others and I have only done three quests a day for the Ixal, plus their delivery one.
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>>381617086
>Hey Takahashi, do you think the final MSQ trial is too difficult
>No way, Shinji, nobody could possibly be so shitty that they can't beat a fight that's just remixed primal moves

Royal Menagerie is what made me realize that this game is played entirely by the mentally handicapped
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>>381601559
>The end game boss presentation is the best out of any MMO
And unfortunately come out at a rate slower than most MMOs. I'd rather they cut back on the flair and give more encounters per tier instead of just 4 every 6-7 months.
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>>381617167
Switch's isn't thst great but I'm sure it can run some good and old IV, even the online version.
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>>381617856
>And unfortunately come out at a rate slower than most MMOs.
What MMOs have faster production than ff14?
seriously
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>Guy holding up collapsing ceiling
>30 minute death scene
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>>381617935
>Cain
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>>381618118
>death
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>new designated idling zone is complete shit
Why even bother playing until 5.0

>>381618118
>isn't even struggling or showing any signs of fatigue, literally just hangs out there until the building starts falling down some more and everyone else finally shuts the fuck up
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>>381616724
Actually, it's more like

Tank
>Hold aggro and mark, watch carefully for retards that attack the wrong mob even after you marked so you can pull off them
>Make sure to keep AoEs off the group to the best of your ability
>Know when to pop CDs so your netflix healer doesn't let you fucking die

Healer
>It's your job to fix each and every mistake your party makes
>If someone dies to an instant kill move, you need to expend one third of your mana to revive them and you are absolutely expected to do this each and every time it happens
>You need to help DPS too, but don't you dare let anyone die or run out of mana doing it

DPS
>Do your rotation correctly while being spatially aware and doing your best not to stress the healer
>Know when to use CDs so you don't get fucked by phase transitions
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I've been at 1 in the queue for Balmung for 10 minutes. what do
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>>381591557
>MS knows they aren't in a position to refuse things consumers want

Explain Scalebound.
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>>381618281
>master1200
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>>381618393
transfer
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>>381618281
>self important retard
Thanks for proving me right
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>mfw Zenos was bullied to death and an heroes
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>>381618236
Go back to Idyllshire, there's still a ton of people loitering around there.
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>>381618515
Actually my point was that all three roles have their challenges. DPS probably has the least though.
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>>381618281
>mark
u wot
Flare gives absolutely no shit about which order you want me to kill things in.
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>>381618517
More like he nutted the greatest nut achievable by mortal means and realized life was just downhill from that moment onwards.
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>>381618118
Superior Roegadyn genes
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