Why don't you play fighting games?

they're boring

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>>381541080
cos I'm bad at them and don't want to spend time learning

>>381541163
lol the little baby bitch coward is scared of a videogame.

>asking smashfag central about this

/v/ is bad at fighters and doesn't know what they're talking about when discussing them which leads to more hate because anyone who knows anything about fighting games punches holes through their trolling and retardation effortlessly.

>>381541080
Demitri when was the last time you got a chance to be in a fighting game? Go to bed.

>>381541080
I like ARMS

>>381541080
Didn't play them much compared to other styles of game when I was younger
If I get a place with a roommate who likes vidya, I will force them to play fighting games with me so I can learn with somebody in person

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but i do
>of all the fucking characters in Darkstalkers your shitty low tier main is apparently gonna make it in
please don't make me buy MvCi capcom

>>381541386
but the post said "fighting games"

>>381541359
>Demitri when was the last time you got a chance to be in a fighting game?

when the greatest fighting game ever made was created

Because your community is fucking pathetic tryhards and there are much better genres to play

I do but I'm completely average and getting REKT forever online isn't fun and I don't want to go full autism and practice 4 hours a day just so I can get bette

>>381541521
>low tier

tell that to dyne.

and he's not even low in savior, he's like solid mid

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I'm not a poor fag.

Check it out.

Poor fags can only afford one game and the time it takes to get good is well enough to keep em busy for year till the next one comes out.

It's why blacks like em.

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>>381541080
>been a fightan enthusiast for long time
>used to play on arcade stick only
>can't play without pad
>don't have time to play anymore because job, gf, workout
>mostly play old games on the Wii U pad in bed before going to sleep or during long session on the shitter
>thirsty for fightan but nothing to play
>can't play any real fighting game without my beloved arcade stick
>can't use arcade stick in bed or on the shitter so I dropped off the genre completely
>became so thirsty of fightans I emulated pic related on Wii U
Had a good time tho.

>>381541680
>can't use arcade stick on the bed

on my old laptop I used to always go on GGPO with my laptop on my chest right near my face and my fightstick on my dick/thighs

doing DPs from the right side is kind of awkward though

>>381541590
he's pretty shitty my dude, damage is ass and there's nothing he really excels at over other characters

>>381541796
what about the command grab and keepaway game?

>>381541796
>he's pretty shitty my dude

but that's literally everyone in savior who isn't sas, qbee, zabel, furryfaggot, aulbath, or bulleta (in the hands of an execution autist)

>>381541080
Kazuya? What are you doing here?

>>381541603
Shit, that explains why it's so popular with South Americans and Mexicans too

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>>381541080
Use to play them a lot as a kid and a early teens, but once my younger brother found out the actual mechanics of the fighting games we played, it made it less cool for me since he knew the inputs for specials. Now in his 20's he knows all the fucking terms that people in the fighting game community know.

Fuck that little bastard. I miss beating the shit out of him in Guilty Gear and Tekken

>>381541080
Not enough time/desire. I quit years ago.

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>>381541080
But i do

>>381541080
I play online and sometimes get beaten at local tourneys.
My friends used to play fighting games with me, but they started dodjing playing them because of these >>381541163 reasons.

I do, but ps+ expired and killer instinct isn't on steam yet :x

>>381541080
i don't have anyone on my level to play with, i'm good enough to be better than the most casual players but i'm still absolutely horrible and can't win against anyone who knows what they're doing
it also takes way too much work to get good at fighting games, i have like hundreds of games and i already have trouble completing any of them before switching to something else, there's no way i'm going to take a game that seriously and put that much time into it. it doesn't help that most fighting games have very little single player content, giving me little incentive to even buy one in the first place

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>>381542695
>be older brother
>play fightan with little brother daily because so much fun
>he tries so hard to learn everything and I teach everything I could
>our abilities were the same usually but I always won somehow
>he was clearly the best player but couldn't win
>I thought I couldn't beat me because he was younger

>still play as adults
>he's still the best player but history repeats itself
>he always say "dude that's not fair! You take advantage of priority moves!" or some bullshit like that
>beating his ass is very satisfying because he's clearly the best but I win in the end
>realized I was the less talented but smarter player all along

I'll be eldest brother forever.
My fav character is Adon. I love to bite my brother with Adon's killer moves when he thinks he's going to win.

>>381543948
JAGGA TOOOOF

>>381543948
>he's clearly better
>but he always loses

you're a fucking retard, him only losing by definition makes him a worse player

>>381543948
Are you me?
I have to play lower execution characters like grapplers or slayer, and he goes nutz on me with puppet characters or rushdown ninjas and practices crazy combos forever, but I still beat him at least half or more.

>>381541080
I do almost every day i play 3s stopped for a while but now am playing again i wish my mom would give me money to buy guilty gear or kof xiv and i am also not sure about my connection and their netcode so far ggpo is the only netcode that lets me play

>>381541080
but I do
just played ARMS for two hours

>>381541261
Also so much this fightann threads on /v/ really make me rage

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>>381541080
Tried to, the amount of satisfaction I got from victories weren't worth the time investment needed to git gud.

>>381544530
that's not a fighting game.

As soon as I try to learn how to play them, I realize how boring and pointless it is.

>>381544635
Did you start with SFV?

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>>381541080
Superior edgelord coming through, and Kaz didn't even let his gf upstage him as mc.

>>381541218
they aren't worth the time nowadays with so much choice, sorry

>>381544772
No, GG Xrd Sign, because some friends of mine dabbled in it.

>>381544787
literally a shitty Demetri knockoff

>>381541163
Im like the opposite of this. I have a small number of game genres that I like so I spend my free time waiting for those games while playing fighting games.

>>381541080
But I do. I'm deciding whether or not I should get uniel from the steam sale.

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>>381544742
but it is anon

>>381545178
Its not

>>381542978
I never got how Cronos' special worked, sometimes it went around the entire stage and sometimes it didn't

Anyone wanna play something on Fightcade?

>>381545502
t.can't even read the picture

>>381541080
Guilty Gear had an insulting jew sale and the torrent for it is too slow.

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>>381544742

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>>381541080
too hard for my mulched, millennial brain to fathom, onan... and I want to be indulged, like an autistic infant, over rewarded like an adult

>>381545735
it's true, mouth breather.

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I do.

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>>381545178
>ARMS
>a fighting game

yeah... so's Smash

>kek

>>381545606
ST or vsav. Your pick.

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>>381545783

>>381545850
>it's not a fighting game because I say so
nice "logic"

>>381545864
haha joejoe I luv dat show xDDDD

>>381545851
I'm better at vsav

you cool with me being in Japan?

>>381546047
yeah

are you that leilei player

>>381546098
no

my name's hildr, what's yours

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>>381545542
Depends on how many hits he did in a combo when it landed, more hits pre super = less dragging around the wall.

The amount of meter he has when its used also effects its damage, more meter = more damage.

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>>381544787
History only remembers the winner, salty anon. Remember, "a fight is about who is left standing. Nothing more."

>>381544907
See >>381546794

I love fighting games, I just hate playing them online with a passion.

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>>381541080
I'm practicing instant blocking in BlazBlue at this very moment.

>>381544787
Kaz's upstaged by his dad and his son though

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>>381547215
Not anymore anon...

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>>381545178
>Before taking on the game's producer, Kosuke Yabuki
>Hidden bonus boss at the end of the game

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Post streamers

I'm bad at them

They are expensive, they make you buy glorified patches and DLC every month, and they only go on sale once the community moved on

All the porn is on the net, no need to find it in the game

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yesterday evening I was playing street fighter 5 with my girlfriend. we both barely play (I play it like once or twice a month, she only owns the 3ds sf4 with special inputs). she can barely do inputs at all. I win every match nut a few matches I did lose around because I was nervous. Should I feel embarrassed? my little brother beat her in every round.
(also I did beat him a lot too yesterday )

>>381541080
I suck at them tbqh, I only was ever good at Budokai, not that tenkaichi 3D shit.

>>381541080
I play Xrd, but I am bad at them, and there is no one online most of the time.

>>381547018
story mode scrub masher detected

I play the single player modes, unlock everything, then it goes on the shelf.

>>381541080
I fucking suck at neutral game. Literally have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing. Marvel Infinite will be my return so I'm hoping I can learn a few things before it releases

Not enough single player content

Soul Caliber was brutally murdered

I still play mvc2, darkstalkers and mortal kombat with friends occasionally but I have other games I'd rather spend my free time on that aren't fightan.

never met a fighting game "player" that wasn't a gigantic poser

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it's all I play desu

>>381550014
which games do you play

>>381549929
what do you mean? poser in what way

>>381550067
rev2 since it came out

before that I played sfv

>>381550135
ps4 or pc

>>381541080
i think it's because i suck at them

like all video games are so easy, they're like sluts, with fighting games you have to earn the pussy.

>>381550175
PC

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Are there any fighting games with slow motion built in to help the player versus bots?
Fighting games are difficult because I can't react to what's going on but I want to be a cool guy and fuck the enemy up.

Slow motion seems like a good way to make it casual.

>>381550232
how do you play that game on pc

it's fucking dead

I even wasted 60 bucks buying the pc version.

>>381550447
>>381550232

I play on PC senpai, East coast?

>>381550368
I know super turbo had a speed setting for that reason

no idea about recent games

>>381550447
I play in the evening and look for player lobbies in US east/midwest. Kinda annoying that the big lobbies suck but it's not that hard

>>381541080
Why haven't the west made a single good fighting game?

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>>381543948
>>381544112
People seem to think that knowledge and mechanical skill is all that matters and possessing both makes you the better player, even if you're losing.
If this was fucking Mario Party, you might have been right, but if you're losing on an even playing field, you're the worse player. Simple as that.

>>381550556
>>381550593
yes I'm east coast

can't stand how poorly populated this game is. even fightcade is more populated than this game. I might just get a nevereverstation 4 to play it with an actual playerbase.

>>381550634
Skull Girls

>>381550634
Skullgirls, son.

>>381550634
skullgnah it's actually street fighter 2 hyper fighting

Any worthwhile fighting games on the steam sale right now? Already picking up the latest Guilty Gear, not sure about Blazblue. I have Skullgirls. I don't mind something with dead online so long as single player content exists.

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>>381551207
>I don't mind something with dead online so long as single player content exists.

fucking mashing scrub faggot.

>>381551207
The BlazBlue bundle.
4 games with a fuckhueg VN style story mode and plenty of other single player modes.

>>381551381
What's wrong with wanting to play a fighters story mode?

>>381550368
pocket rumble has slow motion in training mode + save states so you can setup the dummy to do what you want and practice it. cant really practice against the AIs right now though cause they'll block everything and force you to chip them out

>>381551496
The bundle is only a 5 dollar discount from just buying the games separately. The older BB game are dirt cheap, I assume because the new games are just upgrades of the old games so there's no point in getting them, right?

>>381542978
wow that looks really fun for the other person who can't do anything but watch for 20 seconds

>>381549476
Nah, I just prefer playing offline with friends at my locals.

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>>381553142
Aside from story and such, no, there isn't.
If you just want single player content, feel free to skip out on Centralfiction and just get the cheap ones. They've got enough content to last you a good few weeks by themselves.

Are you on the EU store, by any chance? I think the discounts are different, 'cause I've seen this picture on Twitter, but the discount on the EU store is not this big.

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I've got into Guilty Gear recently still not sure who I want to main, I'm split between Axl, I-No or Baiken.

>>381553868
please don't play axl

make the world a better place

i-no is a technical and respectable character

>>381553867
It was that price for about 10 hours when the sale started. Then I assume they realized they fucked up and upped the bundle price so the discount isn't worth it.

>>381554101
Dang, that's a shame.

>>381553975
I disagree on every front.
>>381553868
Please pick Axl or Baiken, I-No is such a chore to fight.

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>>381541080
i do, i picked up rev2 a few days ago
been rocking best boy

>>381554212
that's because i-no is an execution heavy high iq character

axl is insane range unga shit for mouth breathers

Should I get Melty? I hear it's one of the better anime fighters

>>381541854
Jedah has one of the worst command grabs in Savior. Slow startup and no invincibility frames. Jedah's keepaway isn't that great either because he lacks a good AA. Fishman and Demitri have better keepaway.

>>381541261
"anyone who knows anything about fighting games" is so used to their bullshit that their opinions don't matter.

>>381554610
Don't buy it, the version people play is the pirated version because the community developed netcode is way better than the netcode in the official release.

They're boring.
They're repetitive.
Most have barely any content, and they justify it by saying you ned to spend hours over hours to get good.
They are clunky. Yes, they aren't """technical""", they are just clunky and oversaturated with dumb inputs.
Communities are full of retards and tryhards, seriously, I'm appalled most online shooters' and MOBAs' player bases get branded as cancerous but fighting game get off scot free.
They just aren't fun after finishing story mode or arcade mode or whatever. You are basically paying full price for a game with 10 hours worth of content and a ton of unfun multiplayer hours. And old fighters game are boring as heck, I can't stand playing SF2.

In my opinion this entire genre is boring crap advertised as "deep" designed by a bunch of chinks in suits to bait autists into wasting money and time to prove themselves to even bigger autists.

>>381545948
You need to come up with a whole new genre for every game that doesn't play like Street Fighter. That's the rules.

>>381554907
If you knew how to play, you'd be able to appreciate it.

>>381554976
nobody's denying kof, tekken, gg, bb, virtua fighter are fighting games

your nintenbabby shit just isn't.

>>381554907
Sucks to be you I guess.

>>381555049
>If it's made by Nintendo, it can not be a fighting game
Oh, we're changing the rules again. Sorry. It's kind of hard to keep up sometimes.
But, you seem to know what you're talking about, so why don't you explain what makes a fighting game and how ARMS isn't one. Should be easy for an expert like you.

>>381555126
They apparently have to have high/low blocking systems where crouching ducks high attacks but falls to mids/overheads. Because that's the only possible way fighting games can work, otherwise they're not True Fighting Games (TM).

>>381555238
That is correct.

>>381554894
I don't know where to pirate it so I guess ill just spend the 5 buckaroos. I mean, it's good right?

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I could spend a bunch of time practicing fighting games

Or

Play the approx 10k other good games that don't require me to autistically practice in order to have fun.

>>381555375
You're wasting your money, I don't even think melty players even use that version.

>>381555408
Your could also autistically play the guitar for like 10 years, until you're really good. Or, you could do 100 other things.
What the fuck is your point?

>>381541080

my autism isn't so bad that i wanna do the same thing over and over for no good reason

because nobody plays the fighting games i want to play

>>381555408
You're acting like it takes a super long time to play a fighting game.

>>381555507
Then why are you here, posting in this thread that repeats every week?

>>381555408
>game dispenses fun without having to get good

Can you even call that a game?

>>381555478
I don't want to autistically do any one thing for 10 years, what a waste of my finite life.

>>381555570

just because this thread happens every week doesn't mean i've ever posted in it before, genius.

>>381555660
Calling something a waste of time is entirely meaningless since it's subjective.

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I play Skullgirls, Tekken 7, and Sm4sh with friends and the latter online for the most part, sometimes I'll dabble in DOA, GG, SFV, etc

I will never understand people like >>381555049, why are you so upset that it's not a Street Fighter clone? Things like Smash and ARMS are not even the most outlandish fightan games out there yet the only ones not considered "part of the genre"

Then again I'm a degenerate Rosa/general floaties player

>>381555758
Luckily I said I don't want to then captain retard of the ss reading comprehension.

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>>381555783
Bob isn't Devil Jin but I think he has room to be a good heavy

>>381555783
Personally I just don't see how they're fighting games. I'd consider competitive Catherine or fucking Shadowverse or even PuyoPuyo Tetris fighting games before Smash or Arms.

>>381541261
>into overpowered super hero level badass characters and over the top brawling action
there's beat em ups for that
>actually into martial arts
there's boxing and mma sims for that

there's literally no point to fighting games. I just tried out soul calibur V and while I thought it was quite interesting for a fighting game I couldn't help but think of how I'd rather just be playing an arpg or dynasty warriors instead.

The only legit reason I can see for playing this obsolete genre is if you're an autist who is obsessed with competitive gaming

>>381555660
t. master of none

>>381553321
14 seconds

>>381541080
I do.

Learning Tekken right now after completely dropping SFV. Been looking at GG Xrd Rev lately too since I've only played it casually.

I miss SFIV. ;_;

>>381555454
It's literally 5 dollars.

>>381541080
i'll play dragon ball fighter z when it comes out since it's the only worthwhile one

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>played fighting games for my entire life
>conduct my research and grind in training mode almost daily
>still fucking terrible at them

the genre isn't for me

>>381541080
Because I don't care about competing at all in any game and fighting games aren't really avalible for just playing for fun to me.

>>381556197
>capcom didn't put sf4 on sale despite it being 9 years old because they'll know a price drop will siphon even more players from their sinking ship sf5

Top jej

>>381556102
So you don't like them because you're bad at them so you'd rather play something easy where you can't fail. I get it.

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>>381556094
>Cunnyverse
>A big titty HS clone
>more of a fighting game than a game with almost all the characteristics of a fighting game other than a health bar, special, and rigid directional attacks

What is the purpose? Why does it upset the FGC so much? That being said, I hate how many 50/50 situations there are in Sm4sh neutral- it's Mortal Kombat tier bad and shield stun isn't strong enough (although that's the only thing allowing the shit characters to be somewhat viable)

>>381556505
Smash lacks depth, competition, and most of all fun.

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>>381556321
The only way to truly improve at fighting games is to get shit on by stronger competition. Labbing tech really doesn't help until you develop game sense from getting shit on unfortunately, it's an inherently social game

>>381556738
>Smash lacks depth
Not really. It has plenty.
>Competition
Then why is there so much competition?
>fun
This is true though.

>>381541080
Because the game I want to play has been reduced to a dress up gallery and the character I play hasn't even received a costume since the initial 3, whereas a couple of characters are up to 9 at this point.

>>381556457
>you're just bad at them
you can't be "bad" at fighting games unless you're comparing yourself to competitive players. anybody can pick up tekken and breeze through story mode on the most difficult setting in no time. there's simply no meat to the single player which means the only reason you'd want to play them is for the competition and there's no point in that when you'll never reach the pinnacle of that world unless you've been literally doing nothing with your time but playing this one single game for years on end.

if you like fighting games outside of non-serious play with your close friends you are autistic.

>>381556917
Maybe you won't be the best in the world. But you could become the best in your local meetup. Your region. Your state/province.

>>381556457
oh also boxing and mma sims take as much skill to be good at competitively but the kicker there is that you actually have to have real world knowledge of those skillsets to implement them in game. if you don't actually know shit about boxing then good luck with competitive play in fight night games cos you're going to get raped.

>>381541080
my right hand is dealing with either severe carpel tunnel or arthritis and it doesn't move fast enough any more. shit really sucks.

>>381556917
The point is to have fun with the challenge of putting your skills against another human being. That's where the fun is. You need to be a competitive person to enjoy it. You need to want to improve, otherwise it's just not for you.
That doesn't make it a bad game though, because it's all about that competitive spirit. It's what it's built for and it succeeds.

>>381555783
Melee is a real fighting game. Fighting game players that do not play Melee respect it because of the actions required per minute, the high skill ceiling and the ridiculous dexterity required to operate a Gamecube controller. Smash 4 is a dumbed down version of Melee. Arms might be a great game but it requires the player to waggle and I refuse to touch it or look at it because I am entirely heterosexual.

>>381556917
So you have low testosterone and prefer easier games without the threat of being beaten? It's fine lots of men have that problem nothing to be ashamed of.

>>381556917
Tournaments exist so men can compare labor to determine who is bad.

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>>381556738
But that's just, like, your opinion, man. I have stated my grievances with the game, what's yours?

It fucking kills me that they overall improved the mechanics of smash4 compared to brawl, only to feel the need to completely destroy certain characters with unbearable frame data- especially DDD and Falco. What I wouldn't give for DDD' old bair, B-side, and down-B cancels, amd FUCKING FALCOS BRAWL AERIALS CMON HE'S THE FUCKING BIRD CHARACTER WHY DID YOU DO THIS

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>>381556917
>if I can't be literally the best with little effort invested it's not worth playing

Here's your (you)

>>381557301
Nah, its still a party game. Theres too many smash tards so why would any TO pass up all that money.

>>381557585
You don't even know what a party game is, but if you want to prove me wrong, define the genre.

>>381556775
In addition to that, you need to be willing to play for long periods of time against someone who's better than you. The nirvana of fighting games is achieved when two players are adapting to one another's actions and picking up on their patterns. There's nothing else like it in games, and it really strengthens the part of your brain that picks up and adapts to patterns, making you that much better at it.

I like to play Mahvel but none of my friends know how to do a quarter circle input. I've played at arcades but I'm used to d pad so I always get rocked when I got a stick in my hand.

>>381541080
shit content

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>>381557301
>Sm4sh is a dumbed down version of melee

They're completely different games tho. I'm one of the better Jiggs (rip Jiggs) in my decent region (MD/VA, live near Xanadu) and they play completely differently, the skill between the two games don't confer. That being said, Melee is way further along in it's meta and all the tech is fleshed out after 16 years. L-cancelling honestly isn't that necessary, it's obnoxious tech that hurts your hands.

Jiggs embodies exactly what I want to do in a fighting game, fuck I love it. Her and Johnny Wong are GOAT tier characters

>>381557705
Virtua Fighter 5 is a game where you push your opponent out of bounds to win. Your local bowling alley has a coin operated version of Virtua Fighter 5.

Melee is a game where you push your opponent out of bounds to win. If you ride your bike over to Andrew's house you can play Melee in his basement.

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>>381557903
>The nirvana of fighting games is achieved when two players are adapting to one another's actions and picking up on their patterns
This is the most fucking fun you can have in a multiplayer game. Nothing beats this feeling of constantly being on your edge and constantly feeling rewarded for doing well.

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>>381558180
O fuk I meant Brad

>>381558274
So, your definition of a party game is something you can play in your friend's basement? That's not quite right. Try again.

>>381555126
>>If it's made by Nintendo, it can not be a fighting game
No, the logic actually is

>if it has 4 moves, waggling gimmicks, and the depth of a puddle then it's not a fighting game

>>381557705
>creator calls it a party game
>"b-but if you use specific rules then its a fighting g-game"

>>381558551
Yeah. That's correct.

>>381558379
He may not be good but I hate fighting against this nigga so much

>>381541080
Fighting games are so boring. Once you learn the basics (optimal combos, relevant frame data, punishes, spacing etc.) there's really nothing more to them.

>>381558798
>Optimal combos
And then you learn how to counter what's optimal and you'll need to learn how to mix your combos up.
But, yeah. Once you master the game mechanics and know how to counter every other player's style, there really is nothing to it. You're right.

>>381558798
>he says this as he loses to easy cpu
Imagine that

>>381555507
Spoken like a true retard, good job

>>381558945
>Hehe, I'll call him bad, that'll show him!
Damn, you got me real good.

>>381558913
>you'll need to learn how to mix your combos up.

Smash is the only game you actually do this in though.

>>381558913
But at that point it just becomes an endless grind.

>>381545026
This. Fighting games aren't something I can really get that into, but they're good for in between other games.

Is arcana heart any good? I've never played the anime fighters and it's 80 percent off right now.

>>381559145
Not really. There's pressure in most fighting games. That's what I was referring to. Say, you got someone in the corner and want to get a combo started, but he's blocking. You'll need to mix up your lows and highs to confirm an attack into a full combo.
It's pretty funny, because in Smash you don't have to worry too much about pressure mix-up since there are no lows or highs that have to be blocked accordingly(not nearly to the same degree at least) but the moment you actually start a combo is when you need to think about DI mix-ups. In other fighting games, the moment you start the combo you can finish it 100% of the time, so long as your inputs are correct. Not saying there aren't guaranteed combos in Smash, but they're a lot less abstract due to how the DI system works.

>>381558180
>They're completely different games tho
Melee requires the player to perform precise button and stick inputs more frequently than Smash 4.
>L-cancelling honestly isn't that necessary
>hurts your hands
When a Melee player short hops, fast falls, L-cancels, wavedashes backward and up-tilts a spectator can admire his dexterity because all that shit is easy to fuck up and is hurts your hands and he is definitely not a pussy and he is cool enough to hang out with those of us that play other games. That happens every second of a Melee match, the game is hard as shit, that is why it is fun to watch.
Smash 4 does not give the player the opportunity to demonstrate his skill to the degree Melee does. Its pretty much the gayest shit ever to exist please do not stand near me.

>>381559428
Do you like little girls? This is probably the most important thing you need to compensate before buying the game.

>>381558428
I was not arguing with you, that was a support bombardment. Anybody that claims Melee is not a fighting game will bring up arcades eventually - a fighting game must cost at least ￥100 to play.

>>381559795
There's another layer of L-cancelling though, which is comparable to Mahvel combos, in a way. Hear me out.
Mahvel is kind of famous for its ridiculously long and spectacular combos, but the effect they have on the health bar and the game itself can be compared to a 5 or 6 hit combo in another fighting game. The main difference here is that long combos put a lot of pressure onto the performer. You need to not only memorize the string, but also execute it flawlessly, or the opponent can snap out and punish you. This adds a lot of tension to combos, which is part of the reason why they are fun.
L-cancelling is sort of similar in that it adds a lot of pressure to the performer. There is not a single situation where you don't want to L-cancel an attack, but messing it up can cost you a lot, which makes it more interesting than if it was automated.

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>>381559428
GG Xrd rev2 is the anime game to get right now. Arcana Heart is a great game but it's probably dead now.

>>381559818
I like fighting games. Is the waifu loli bullshit really bad?

>>381560617
It really is. If you're gonna invest any serious time into it, I really hope you have a high tolerance for cutesy anime girl noises.

>>381541080
I'm not black.

>>381541080
>internet is trash tier, worse than fighting a BR whose internet line is being attacked by monkeys while you're fighting him
>no local community
>can never legally drive so going somewhere else to play fightans is impossible even if I wanted to drive 100 miles
What's the fucking point?

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>>381557301
>Melee is a real fighting game
It's really not. It's a janky ass party game with glitches and an unbalanced roster.

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>>381559145
No, not really. You can do that in smash though, the melee combo meta is kinda neat- sm4sh is still at the development point where the mechanically strongest players almost always win, although Zero plays fucking mind games with his banana setups. I wish he still had two bananas for the strategy/setup gameplay he had in Brawl

>>381551021
>>381551073
>plays like Marvel
He said good.

>>381561196
I don't want to imagine if Diddy still had two bananas in Smash 4. It'd be a nightmare.

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I do, though?

Only Skullgirls, though. It's all I have, and I'm not particularly good at it, either.

The only good fighting games are UFC/Boxing games and they don't come out on PC

>>381559795
>>381559795
>Muh mechanics look at this cool shit marvel at my pure skeeeeel

I suppose this encapsulates the majority of the FGC in what they look for, so who am I to argue.

Feels good punishing a spacey dicking around by just spacing correctly, walking up and sending him flying. Mainly playing strategy games I'm more inclined to enjoy niche characters, and the best part of Sm4sh for me is that counters exist so you often have to diversify your character pool to win in bracket.

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>Buy Skullgirls last summer sale
>Mess around with some practice and challenges
>It's pretty easy to play and understand
>Get in on a late night /v/ lobby
>Get my asshole ripped asunder

N-neat..

>>381560978
>unbalanced roster

So like every other fighting game?

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>>381554539
>High IQ
Forward dash into free mix-up into knockdown into projectile into forward dash into free mix-up into...

>>381557301
Melee is not a fighting game and it never will be.

>>381562176
I trust your opinion, anon. You've always been right in the past.

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>>381541080
well ill sum it up for you OP:

>shit mechanics
>borderline retarded
>incapable of doing real time mental chess like the good fightan players can
>old as dirt (28) and slow reaction time
>unwilling to lose for months / years on end learning match ups and bnb combos to git gud
>get frustrated and want to cry when I lose a ton (which is how you learn fightan)
>can't handle the bantz and will get feelings hurt bc sensitive cry babby

so im just a pissbabby casual and fighting games take way more skill and dedication than I can possibly put out. that being said I absolutely love watching Evo and following my favorite players

(kbrad, snakeyez, smug, infiltration, PRrog)

>>381562278
I don't understand melee literally breaks your hands (not that it's a particularly good thing)

Why does this "no true Scotsman" nonsense continue?

>>381562795
>melee literally breaks your hands
No, it fucking doesn't. Stop repeating this clearly untrue statement. There are only a handful of Melee players with severe hand issues. Hax, SilentWolf and possibly M2K. That's three people who fucked up their hands. Look at people like Leffen who is a solo Fox main at absolute top level and without any hand issues.
Yes, doing repetitive, precise, high APM shit for 12 hours a day will hurt your hands. That's why you take care of them. You need to stretch and shit. Why is this so difficult to understand? You don't think other fighting game players would feel pain in their hands if all they did all week was grind out intense inputs?

>>381563176
So what you're doing is comparing melee players to how other fighting game players prepare/feel. Why is it so different again?

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>>381562795
>melee literally breaks your hands

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>>381563176
I thought DP inputs were too difficult, yet you have to do contrived weird shit on your gamecube controllers? How many of these guys' hands are broken?

>mike watson
>alex valle
>daigo
>nuki
>kuroda

that's right. NONE of them.

Your game is shit. It's a glitchy kids' noncompetitive game. We're the alphas. We piss on you and take your money form the graciousness of our hearts, by letting you run your carnivals at our tournaments. You are pathetic.

>>381562793
You sound like a girl honestly. Are you?

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>>381563867
yes... why?

>>381541218
You are a strange human

>>381556917
It ain't about being the best. It's about winning and losing on a match by match basis. I play fighting games somewhat competitively online. My rank goes up and I get harder opponents until I reach a rank where most everyone is a real challenge for me to beat. It's the satisfaction of beating someone who's as equally skilled as you are and the satisfaction of getting better and better mechanically and skills wise not just artificial single player progression in an RPG or some shit where your character gets more abilities.

Unfortunately most my friends aren't into fighting games. So playing against them isn't fun for me or them really unless I handicap myself in some way (but then that's not fun for me because I'm not playing at my best) So my only real option for playing fighting games against good opponents is online ranked modes.

>>381563730
I'm comparing Melee players to other Melee players.

>>381563851
Nigger, that's what I'm saying. Melee does not break your hands. Only a few people who push it to the extreme have issues out of the hundreds of thousands of players.

>We're the alphas
>Posting on /v/

>>381562795
Ill just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsw_owDSZGI

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>melee faggots shitting up a perfectly good fighting game thread

and you wonder why the FGC hates you niggers

>>381541521

>Jedah
>Low tier

please stop talking forever. He's not anakaris

>>381564357
Low doesn't mean bottom

>>381541603
Is that why fighting games players tend to play with STICKS that cost money?

>>381564357
Jedah is poop

>>381564459

Then what's even the issue? Unless we're talking like Servbot/Roll bottom tier lists are for dorks

>oh no, I lose a 6-4 matchup even though the other guy playing is his very first match

fuck outta here nigga

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>>381564334
They just won't shut up about their shitty game, ever. Can't have one thread in peace.

>>381560391
>Arcana Heart is a great game but it's probably dead now.

It died like 10 years ago

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>>381541080
I do, not as much as I used to, but mostly when it comes to events with friends if they want to hang out or something. Anytime I wanna settle a dispute between me, my brother, or my old friend we'd play some Def Jam: Fight for NY and goddamn would I whoop their asses.

>>381564334
It's like watching the autistic little brother try to fit in

>>381556223
All you need is here
https://discordapp.com/invite/0TJ5ma4C19VUCEeV

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>>381564796
the community of melee is so shitty and autistic it's actually turned me off from it entirely and I actively avoid melee streams and discussion because they're fucking insufferable and don't have bantz like the rest of the chill FGC. why can't these niggers fuck off permanently with their shitty party game? allowing melee at Evo was a mistake

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>>381565038
nah it's like the mentally retarded cousin with downs syndrome smell like shit and talk way too loud in public with zero self awareness and you're embarrassed to be seen with them

>>381561928
Definitely not, games like Guilty Gear have a pretty small margin between tiers and a lot of characters sit around the middle.

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Demitri is such an underrated character.

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but I do, OP. theyre just about the only multiplayer games i play and its always with friends

>>381541080
I do
Im currently playing

Smash 4 (LOL NOT FIGHTEN GAME) it has ryu

Jojo All Star Battle, was hoping friends would get into it since the skill floor and ceiling are lower than most games

Jojo Heritage for the future
SFV
SF3 3rd strike

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>>381541080
I do. I'm even finally getting an update to my game next month.

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>Capcom is so incompetent and lacking in talent to make a new Darkstalkers now
>they just keep producing Street Fighter because it's easier but they're running it into the ground
>you might live long enough to see Capcom exit from fighting games again

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>>381565661
>capcom outsourced mvc3 to raizing and sf4 and sfv to DIMPS
>they will never outsource darkstalkers 4 to arcsys

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why SHOULD I play fighting games. I see this thread every month and I just need to know WHY

>>381565936

MvC3 is eighting

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>>381565661
fighting games are just about the only thing keeping them alive, tho. they said last year that they were going to revive some old IP's in the near future, my fingers are crossed for Rival School.

but then i recently had a thought: what if its Power Stone ?

>>381541080
Because online lag when playing a fighting game makes them unplayable, even minor input delay

>>381566094
Darkstalkers was by far their biggest fighter after SF and Marvel. If it can't get revived, none of the others even have a chance.

>>381566094

then they better work hard because power stone is ass Don't believe me? play it now, and then play spiderman 2 and realize that's also ass and our standards were much much lower

>>381565936
Capcom and Arc Sys collabing for Darkstalkers would be the best possible thing they could do if they wanted to make a new game.

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>>381566018
because its one of the few genres where you truly have to get better to stand a chance. you have to not only learn the gameplay and character match ups, but you need to overcome your own mental limitations over and over again to get better. it starts with overcoming the in fight panic, but then goes on to pushing yourself more and more against better opponents.

also, theyre really fucking fun to play with friends of near equal skill level

>>381566085
they'll always be the raizing that made battle garegga to me, no matter how many shitty naruto kusojs they put out

>>381558439
>melee has a depth of a waggle
nice bait

>>381566094
If Darkstalkers can't come back then Rival Schools doesn't stand a chance either.

>>381566209
how would our standards not be lower than what they are now after 15 more years of games evolving? aging poorly does not mean they weren't fun when they came out; power stone was a blast with four players

>>381566435
>evolving

except fighting games only have kept getting worse since Vsav, ST, and kof98

>>381553321
I don't play games for anyone else's joy.

>>381565264
Darkstalkers is underrated. Capcom was god tier in the 90s.

>>381566435

It was fun when you didn't know any better. Power stone is below smash in terms of depth especially since your only defensive option is even more mysterious than crop circles turning every game into "Jump and use your homing attack to hit the other guy from half screen until you get the gems on one of the same 5 stages that last 30 seconds"

>>381566503
Maybe for Street Fighter. But, games like Guilty Gear have only gotten better.

>>381566503
i meant games evolving in general in response to the spiderman 2 thing. its a sad fact that fighting games have gone to shit over the years, it really sucks to watch one of my favorite genres die a long, greed stretched death

i really hope DB Fighterz is good next year, nothing else looks any kind of interesting to me at this point

>>381566549
You don't seem to play games with another person either.

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>>381565215
Guilty Gear is pretty well balanced desu

>>381564992
Fuck I love this game, thanks for reminding me of it

What character best represents your favorite character style/archetype? I love drunken master characters so much, wish there were more

>>381542978
Shina was one of my earliest vidya crushes.

>that tiny bit of pink panties you can see through her ripped shorts

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>>381567254
fuck, im remembering so many boners i forgot my pick

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>>381566581
The weird thing about Darkstalkers is that it was one of Capcom's flagship arcade titles in Japan in the 90s, all 3 games made the top 5 of their years' income charts, they had thriving competitive communities which lots of famous players including Daigo had a history with, it invented several conventions that became staples not just of following Capcom fighters but of the entire fighting game genre in general.. but despite all of that everyone today acts like it's some obscure, irrelevant series. I don't get it.

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>>381566669
>But, games like Guilty Gear have only gotten better.

noooooooo you fucking idiot that knows nothing about fighting games

Accent core was a little more autistic and more retarded/bloated than XX (+R was good though), and then Xrd was a massive dumbing down of accent core with removal of stuff like slashbacks, dilution of character specific options (jam's parry, grand viper), and any input barrier. Revelator further increased the input buffer and added even more retard shit for casuals like yourself.

GG has been getting worse since XX#reload. kof14 is a disgrace to kof too and removed the ability to cancel specials into other specials and added autocombos. ALL fighting games are getting worse. You only pay attention to sfv because sf is the most popular FG franchise.

Get an education.

>>381567561

because it is. If morrigan hadn't been shoehorned into every VS. game everyone would forget about it because its only release was Resurrection like 4 years ago which itself amounted to nothing.

>>381567561
Darkstalkers has the best character designs in any of Capcom's fighting games. The most comparable games are SF3 (also has some of the best designs) and some more obscure games like Red Earth that had amazing designs too. It's so sad that after the 90s, Capcom's style became so generic and boring, SF4 is obviously a lot worse for this, and the actual gameplay is also watered down.

>>381567679
Would you care to dispute all of the facts I just wrote?

I'm black and don't want to be a stereotype.
I exclusively play RTS and sim games

>>381563953
inb4femininepenis.

>>381566018
ive played just about every genre that exists, cept maybe roguelikes and the like and let me tell you NOTHING gets me going as much as fighting games. not even holding hands with a girl

>>381567834

Sure thing, go outside and ask people what street fighter is and then ask people what darkstalkers or vampire savoiur is.

I'm damn near certain everyone would say hadouken or shoryuken, but aside from morrigan can't say a damn thing about VS because it is an obscure fighting game. It was popular in the 90s and it faded out, even virtua fighter has more brand power than Darkstalkers outside of the FGC

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I made it to gold in SFV but I'm not going any further than that. I've peaked.
Still, I learned how to play fighting games with SFV, so I can actually enjoy other games in the genre now.

>>381568119
You know what else was popular in the 90s then faded out? Street Fighter. Or did you forget that SF3 bombed and then Capcom abandoned the entire fighting game genre for a decade?

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>>381567615
AC was fucking dope, despite them removing Justice and Kliff. I pirated +R later and I liked it. Too bad my friends didn't care for GG anymore.
I didn't really know slash back was a thing. Looks neat as fuck. Basically a kind of parry.
I'd probably get the Steam version, but I figure it's dead as fuck.

>>381568354

Remember that time SF was popular enough to even get to 3..and 4....and 5....

Remember that time SF had endless revisions while Darkstalkers had about 3 and then a shitty port on PSP that added virtually nothing

Remember that time SF was popular enough to have multiple spinoffs...


I love DS to death but don't be in denial dude. The game means very little to people outside of enthusiasts

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>>381567254
Good taste

>>381568637
It took a decade for them to get to 4 because 3 was so unpopular.

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>>381568019
nope girl (female) i just don't make a bif deal of it

>>381568794

and in between that they made CvS1 and 2, MvC2, Rival Schools, Star Gladiator, and SFEX.

Not to mention the GBC/GBA ports, the SFII/III remaster on PS2/DC/Xbox and then remade CvS2 on GC with a balance revision for the hell of it

meanwhile DS was where?????

>>381568637
DS got to three anon
In fact Darkstalkers is the third game

>>381568913
Kill yourself, man. Jesus Christ.

>>381541080
because we are not in the 90s

>>381568913
girl (female)[male]

show us your tits if you actually female

>>381567615
shut up retard, xrd is meant to hearken back to #R, not accident core. slashbacks were retarded, the only cool shit that was lost was some new moves, and some move properties. otherwise taking a step back from the retardation of AC was nice.

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>>381569089
you seem upset for no reason

>>381568913
>having to explain yourself to /v/irgins

Not worth giving over the (You) senpai

>>381569375
Read
>>381569330

>>381567615
>>381569341
i meant force breaks were retarded, slashbacks were so rarely used that they may as well have not existed for 99% of the time.

>>381568962
If ports somehow mean something, then Darkstalkers got ports on the Dreamcast, PS2 and PSP during that time.

>>381569816
>slashbacks were so rarely used that they may as well have not existed for 99% of the time

They had their use case. Especially in high level matches. You don't know what you are talking about.

>>381569902
by all means, let me see some of these matches. i can't even count the total number of times i've seen sb used to a decent effect.

>>381558551
Party game isn't a genre tho, the fuck do retards keep bringing that up?

Do you have a favorite fighting game, /v/? One that's above all others?

>>381568119
>even virtua fighter has more brand power than Darkstalkers outside of the FGC
Is this even true? Do normies even know anything about VF other than the fact that it exists? At least you see a lot of female cosplayers dressing up like Morrigan.

>>381570279
not going to sift through hours of tourney footage, but it's there

>>381564489
Actually a lot of people are using pads these days, at least for SFV, Tekken 7, and Injustass 2.

>>381562793
Be my EVO-watching gf, plz

>>381570719
from having watched hours upon hours of mikado and tourney footage, i've still yet to see it even approach regular use. it may as well have not existed.

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I play SFV, Xrd Rev 2, and Tekken 7, and I'm objectively awful at all three.

>>381570606
I can't name just one, to be honest.

Maybe Super Smash Bros. Melee, if you're not the sort of retarded autist who bitches about it not being a fighting game.

>>381570606
Honestly just UNIEL most likely, though I've been meaning to get into older games like Garou.

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>>381569330
>>381569447

old one from a few days ago cuz not at home atm

unsee
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>Love fighting games.
>Never have the time to actually get good at them.

>>381563953
I bet you're that black girl who had a white boyfriend and posted tits. I sense it

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>>381571885
>wanting to get bodied for months on end learning the basic mechanics

no thanks I'll keep my will to live

>>381571461
Neat

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>>381541080
I got GG Rev2 a week ago and I'll practice until I can replicate pic related.

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>>381571951
how tf?

>>381572014
Just depends on how you apply yourself to learning. Some people take a long time to actually evaluate what they need to be changing in their game. Luckily it's always little things, like jumping less or something, but you have to be conscious that you need to stop jumping so much in the first place. A lot of new people can do something "wrong", then be told it's wrong, and just continue to do it and just go "wow i can't do anything" when they can't continue doing the same thing forever on end.

>>381572014
You can learn the basic mechanics in a few hours, but learning the game beyond that takes a lot of time and effort.

>>381571461
For what purpose

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>Played with a guy on netplay fairly often about two years back
>He's sorta teaching me how to use my character, 'cause I'm new to him and this guy's been playing him for a while
>He's way, way better than me
>Shit happens and I end up having only completely garbage wi-fi, so I can't play fighting games online
>Finally get decent connection after about a year, start getting into fighters again
>Get better with the character
>Just yesterday the guy and I end up having our first set of matches in about two years
>Lose 7-3, with almost all games being pretty close or at least as close as Valk mirrors can be considering the nature of the character
>After the first game he instantly comments on how much I've improved
This is the greatest feeling

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>>381572529
Good job Anon, I'm proud of you.

>>381572284
for me just learning bnb's are hard because im a controller pleb that makes tons of execution errors and im too retarded to know frame data to know what's safe on block and what can be punished

just getting freaking decent at fighting seems like a mountain to climb

>>381572347
yeah and it's pretty discouraging once you realize how many months of suffering that's gonna take

>>381568221
It's good that you're getting into more fighting games, but just as a heads up, SFV is not a good teacher. The defense mechanics of SFV are so neutered, and offensive play is so advantageous that it's unlike almost any other fighting game you're going to come across. Also, you're not really component at the game if you stopped at gold rank.
Basically, get ready to get your shit pushed as you adapt to new mechanics of other games. Turn it into a learning experience that makes you better over time.

>>381556223
just listen to him, if you wanna play online that is

>>381541080
Because 95% of the games are the same with 1 or 2 real diffences in the game play that only elitists care about.
>Same characters with different faces
>Same plots
>Same battling systems
>Same super moves
>Same features
If it wasn't for sports games, fighting games would definitely be the most shameless carbon copy&paste shit with only a few exceptions like Smash, PowerStone, or Arms. Hell, fighting game faggots see these games and put them in a completely different genre of game because they try something different.

DBZ Shin Budokai 2
Jojo Heritage For The Future
Only ones I play.
I main Young Joseph

Where can I get a training mode mod for Fightcade VSav? Last time I tried to download the one on mizuumi, it gave me a virus

>>381572994
Wait, what? I was planning on downloading that one. Should I skip it then?

>>381572994
>virus

really? what happened

>>381572883
Huh? Games have very different mechanics and styles.

>>381572797
Yeah, it's a lot to take in at once. Also depends on who you are playing. If your opponent doesn't know stuff is unsafe, it doesn't matter what you do into his block most of the time. Unless he's just frantically mashing jab every time he's touched. Execution and such comes with time. I used to dedicate entire matches against friends to simply hitting and executing a BnB when I was learning. Play to grow and it stops taking so long, and play with friends so it can still be fun. It's okay to be salty too.

I played Tekken but I got so angry online I got heart problems so I just stick to single player stuff now

>>381573196
>>381573198
It was a little over a year ago, but I just followed the link on mizuumi wiki that was supposed to go to a mega with the training mode mod, but it just hit me with a redirect to a virus
I don't know if the link's been fixed now, but I'd rather not facecheck it

>>381573287
>Games have very different mechanics and styles
They don't. They just take what StreetFight 2 had and puts a minor twist on it at best.

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>>381573320
if i were to dedicate the months it takes to getting somewhat passable at fighting games (decent meaning: consistent bnb's, punishes, frame data, and match ups)

where do I even begin and what kinda training regime could I follow that could get me up to speed in a timely manner? i already know about eventhubs but I gave up because SSIVU AE inputs were too damn hard with those 1 and 2 frame links

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>why don't you play fighting games?
>anon gives reason for why they don't personally enjoy the genre
>lol u r teh suc git gud fag
brb firebombing the first tourney closest to me

>>381573905
The reasons are shitty, that's why.
>I don't understand fighting games, but here's my hot opinions on them
Just keep your mouth shut and admit your ignorance.

>>381573380
>really want to try picking up Vsav
>really want to pick up Demitri and Bulleta
>can't now because of this
That's some bullshit.

>>381573620
So you are going to claim Virtua Fighter and Blazblue are the same?

>>381541080
List the reasons then eh? ॢ(⸍⸌̣ʷ̣̫⸍̣⸌)

*major commitment necessary to play at a good level. 25+ button inputs are required knowledge. Must know what every other character in the entire game can do and how to counter it. In short, it takes an extraordinary amount of time to learn to play the game at a good level
*genre makes it so that online play is a joke; even 3 frames of latency is a huge deal in this genre just because of the way it works
*lack of good modern fighting games until recently with the release of Tekken 7
*community is not friendly nor helpful
*derivative gameplay plagiarized from either street fighter or guilty gear, every fighting game seems the same with few differences