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Thoughts on Capcom not putting MHWorld on Switch and not

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Thoughts on Capcom not putting MHWorld on Switch and not localizing MHXX?
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>>381525575
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>>381525575
Why are you posting porn?
This is a blue board
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>>381526084

What do you mean? This is gore for Sonyfriends.
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>>381525575
No one gives a shit about the first thing but the second thing is entirely retarded.
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>>381525575
I think this has less to do with localisation and more to do with Capcom putting Monster Hunter on home consoles and not handhelds.
Home consoles are next to dead in Japan and investors know it.
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>>381526443
But handhelds are THRIVING in Japan. Switch is a handheld and it's also thriving.

inb4 it was in development before Switch.

Capcom were one of the first to know about Switch. They even got Nintendo to increase the RAM for it.
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>>381525575
Capcom has made very few games in the past few years, and one of the games they decide to do is MonHun for consoles. Whoever makes the decisions over there should be fired. They've done nothing but mistakes for several years now.
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>>381526610
Tell me things I don't know, anon.
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>>381526683

That's why I'm hoping that they go under sooner rather than later. They're a shadow of their former self and the upper management is HORRIBLE.

Hoping for a buyout from Nintendo.
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>>381525575
>on Capcom not putting MHWorld on
this is fine
>and not localizing MHXX?
less okay with this, I can play with guides but my friends sure as hell aren't going to want to
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The Switch can't even handle it's own Zelda, it's not gonna handle World.

Heck even skyrim will need to be downgraded.
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>>381526269
>>381526783
Basically these, I don't mind Capcom shifting MH over to other consoles but I do absolutely mind them not localizing a game that we expected to see in the West and that would have actually sold well here. 3U, 4U, and Generations all sold well in NA+Europe combined. They're refusing to localize XX so they can draw attention to World and it's really shitty. People would buy both. These fucking retards running the show need to get a clue.
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Btw, the youtube views thing is there because Capcom were bragging about it.

>>381526860

They patched Zelda and Skyrim is the Remastered version with all DLCs. It's officially confirmed.

Next!!
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>>381525575

It's okay, let Crapcom reap what they sow

When they see that literally nobody but the PS4 fanbase buys Monster Hunter World and it's still abysmall compared to XX, they will have to switch gears to making a proper MH for switch
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>>381526752
If Capcom goes under I hope Platinum's at least able to put an hand on all Clover IPs and DMC
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>>381527106
MHW will outsell XX if only because it's actually a new game and not an expansion pack for a piece of shit.
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>>381527106

I don't think PS4 fanbase is going to buy MH. They will need to make up for all the lose Japanese sales in the west and I just don't see it happening.

For normies, the MH combat is #1 thing that turns them off by it being "clunky". If the combat in World is still supposedly same, as reassured by devs and "youtubers", how do they plan to entice new buyers?

Not to mention scripted monster interactions, epic uncharted style chases, which will raise concern from veteran players.
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>>381526683
Yet they still make money, and their company is literally worth more than ever.
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>>381527442
>their company is literally worth more than ever.
source?
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>>381525575
>capcom stock was on a steady rise
>suddenly started taking a nosedive after World announcement
Kek
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My whole issue is with capcom it looks like any other monster hunter game. From the trailer why are they targeting the west?

Regardless on the switch or not. They have some MH fans upset from the changes they made in the game and are limiting sales in japan as well because its exclusive to ps4.

I mean how are they going to push world says its souls like? There are tons of souls clones coming out as well like Code Vein.

Not saying World will be good or Bad but what target audience in the west is capcom looking for?
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>>381525683
>coming to sony and microsoft console
gee i wonder why would it happen
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FUCK YOUR KEKSOLE WARS, THIS IS NOW A MONSTER HUNTER THREAD

What is your:
>weapon
>favourite monster
>most hated monster
>returning hopes for World
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>>381527002
It may be the remaster but remember how less powerful the switch is shit the PS4 and Xbone versions are STILL only 30fps and they dont even look that great STILL
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>>381527609
Not sure

You have people saying that arts and styles were bad but the flashy anime moves are INCORPORATED in the weapon move-sets now. That's suddenly ok? It's trying to be both western (environmental interactions, cinematic chases etc.) and eastern (classic gameplay supposedly intact) and seems to have an identity crisis.
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>>381527661
>weapon
Switch Axe
>favourite monster
Switchadrome
>most hated monster
PS4 Kut-Ku
>returning hopes for World
N/A
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Who gives a shit what veteran players think when they can just stick to 3U forever?
Capcom has abandoned them long ago starting with 4thGen.
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>>381527858

It's MT Frameworks which runs amazingly on toasters weaker than Switch. The more probable cause is that MHW devs are incompetent as seen by numerous instances of clipping and general jankiness.

The game has been indevelopment for 4 years and comes out in March (gamestop release date).
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Anyone else feel like the hit effects and status effects in MHW look a bit off? Paralysis for example is so... subdued?
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>>381528108
Hitstops are still weak as ever since MHX, and that never changed in MHW.
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>>381525575
>Go see Capcom Stores
>That jump in May 25
>Is when MH XX Switch was Announced
>Stocks Started to go down on June 19
>Is when MH World was announced not for Switch
Potery
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>>381526610
>>381526684
this is either Capcom being the most retarded company ever with 0 foresight. or that leak is true
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>>381528554

Yeah, I love MH but the schadenfreude when MHWorld fails is going to be amazing.
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>>381528701
I can only Imagine the meltdown in /v/ If at TGS Capcom Announces MHW is also coming to Switch (even if at a later date) Due to pre-orders and general hype for the game are low up to that point
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>>381528924

I think Sony might have cockblocked World on Switch. We can only hope for portable series using World assets but traditional gameplay.

I think they took the "Hunter" part of the title too seriously.
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>>381527526
Read the investor reports.
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>>381525575
Woah they lost 1%
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>>381529051
Its clear that the series was originally intended to focus more on the hunting aspects if you play MH1. This is them giving that original concept another shot. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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>>381527442
>Yet they still make money, and their company is literally worth more than ever
not even close
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>>381529402
The wrong with is them throwing the already action RPG based gameplay formula in the trash instead of keeping it alive while trying something "new" as well.
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>>381529402
Give some examples. I see this posted all the time: "a return to form", "just like MH1".

Give me some examples
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>>381525575
>not putting MHWorld on Switch
NP, it won't handle it anyway
>not localizing MHXX
They're probably going to announce that shit after the release of MH Stories, because, well, they're still fucking translating MHS probably
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>>381529402
the changes. the expansion of the market, in general nothing is bad, but that little part where for no apparent reason they decided to shaft out the part of the userbase that tally for 70-80% of all Mon Hun sales ever (Handheld in Japan)
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>>381529483
>The wrong with is them throwing the already action RPG based gameplay formula in the trash

What the fuck are you talking about? Did you watch the stream?
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>>381527332
>Platinum's at least able to put an hand on all Clover IPs and DMC
Thank god that shitty company would never do that
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>>381529539

Nintendo is publishing MHStories.

Atleast do research before shitposting
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>>381529539
>consoles targeting 30 fps
I think none of the consoles can handle it. PC is probably going to be the way to go.
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>>381529695
>Nintendo is publishing MHStories.
And? Only Nintendo is translating it? Dumb nigger
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>>381529797
>consoles targeting 30 fps
>I think none of the consoles can handle it.
>glorious MT framework
Yeah, sure
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>>381529978
https://twitter.com/SocksyBear/status/874739909659156481
Literally what their community manager announced. No need to be mad at me anon, just listing facts.
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>>381530007
>>>>/v//381529650
literally nothing?
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>>381529978
>>381530218

There's nothing special about MHWorld. It looks like LP2 and DD combination. MH developers are just incompetent.
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>>381530326
Eh, I like DD too but doesn't scratch the same itch as MH, though the new MH looks more like a DD game than a MH game at times.
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>>381530218
And, you have reading comprehension?
>I think none of the consoles can handle it.
Consoles can do that, it's fucking MT Framework. Most games even on 360 and PS3 were looking pretty good with stable 30 fps
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>>381530326
>Nothing special
>looks like a LP2 and DD combination

Just kill yourself.
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>>381525575

Can't believe you niggers are still salty about this, grow up.
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>>381530473

That's what I meant. MH used to have a distinct look and mechanics. It just looks generic now.
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>>381530531
What's the problem? Both games are still looking good, just as MHWorld
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>>381530587
What
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>>381530520
30fps on a handheld is barely acceptable as it is, 30fps on a home console? 100% unacceptable. Games like MH benefit so much from 60fps over 30fps.
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>>381525575
>not putting MHWorld on Switch

It's fine. I was gonna pick it up on PS4 to play with friends anyway.

>not localizing MHXX

Fucking shitty.
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>>381530721

They have been losing for years now though.
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>>381530721
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>>381525575
>why didn't they put a 4 year development game on a recent console
>why?
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>>381530838

See here >>381526610

Please read the thread before posting.
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>>381530838
they could easily have announced it will be on a later date and roll with it
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>>381530786
>Games like MH benefit so much from 60fps over 30fps.
I know that, but still with that kind of statement
30fps on a handheld is barely acceptable as it is, 30fps on a home console? 100% unacceptable
you're just fucked in the head
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>>381527359
Veterans are happy to play a monster Hunter game with real graphics for a change. Normies love the souls games and it's combat is clunky too.
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>>381531118
>expecting games to play smoothly
>fucked in the head
What the fuck
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>>381525575
Nintendo has gotten soft. Capcom relies heavily on their yearly Monster Hunter sales to keep afloat, they need Nintendo a lot more than the other way around. Yamauchi would have told them to make a Switch port or they would no longer be welcome on Nintendo systems. Good luck releasing the next MH on the Vita.
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>>381525575
>looking at stock prices over the course of one day
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>>381527661
Hunting Horn
Devil Bro
Electric Dick
I'm hopeful for a lot of old and new, and a deep end game like many new monsters that show up for the first time past G rank
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>>381531194
>stable 30 fps isn't smooth
You actually are
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>>381525575
>Thoughts on Capcom not putting MHWorld on Switch
Switch is just too weak

>and not localizing MHXX
maybe, Nintendo starts to localize it
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>>381531332
MH is a system seller my nin toddler buddy. It's Japan's Fifa, people WILL buy a system just for it. The moment MH can go on mobile, is the moment Capcom tells the console manufacturers to blow it out of their asses and pay up if they want a port. Capcom doesn't need Nintendo, because as always, only Nintendo IPs sell on Nintendo consoles (handhelds exempt due to near monopoly). MH is one of the few exceptions, because it will sell on anything. Capcom needs Sony and PC to survive, because it needs its other shit to sell too, and its other shit will never sell on a Nintendo console.
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>>381531637
Name one console Monster Hunter that broke a million in Japan.
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Can I ask an honest question? What do you guys get out of this console war shit? Is it just to make people mad? Are you genuinely that invested in a brand name?

I just don't understand.
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>>381531184

How much has Dark Souls 3 sold on all 3 paltforms? Keep in mind that MH4U sold 4.1m copies in total and that was a 3DS title. How much do you think world needs to sell? You think all the normies will buy MH in droves? It's not even on a portable in Japan.
>>381531332
Yeah, Yamauchi would have BTFO Crapcom.
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>>381531637
>>381531702

This. The only PS4 game to break 1 million in Japan is FFXV and that barely made it. I love these hypothetical "LOL JAPS AND WHITEYS WILL JSUT BUY MH LOL HARDCORE GAME JUST LIKE DARK SOULS"
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>>381525575
Don't care. It's on PC.
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>>381531554
I'm just going to allow myself to be baited. Stable 30fps is the MINIMUM that we expect from devs. It is "smooth" in the sense that it is playable. However, devs should always strive to achieve a stable 60fps which in almost all genres of games (other than turn-based games) will enhance gameplay.
If a console is unable to handle 60fps on a game while a PC can, you can bet that I'm going to play it on PC instead. And that's all I'm saying, the PC version will be the better version because it can actually run at 60fps and the other versions are inferior since they have no advantages.
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>>381531739
Yeah it's a whole new market, but I'm hopeful it picks up steam. So many people love monster hunter. They just dont know it yet!
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>>381532280

Also remember that Crapcom needed RE7 to sell 4 million copies by March 31st but they've only sold 3.5 million so far. They also expect it to sell 10 million copies LTD.

RE is a much more popular franchise in the west than MH is.

:)
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>>381532280
kys gaijinhunter
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>>381532573
Can someone give me a quick rundown on him?
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>>381532684
He is in cahoots with the Bogdanoffs
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>>381532684
He makes helpful tutorials for monster Hunter and Capcom has recognized and immortalized him
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>>381529447
>stock prices represent the literal value of a company
haha wow
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>>381532684
>beats his wife
>on crapcoms payroll
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>>381534974

Is it true about all the MH "ecelebs" now shilling for Capcom now and trying to damage control negative things about MHWorld?
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>>381525575
>Thoughts on Capcom not putting MHWorld on Switch
I'm starting to give some credence to that /v/ rumor that Sony funded MHW. But it could also be because MHW entered development 4 years ago when the Switch was probably a barely-formed idea.

>and not localizing MHXX
Eh, I still think they will. They've already done most of the heavy lifting by localizing Generations.
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>>381531637
>It's Japan's Fifa
You're pretty stupid.

Got some numbers to back up this wild claim?
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>>381526752
>Hoping for a buyout from Nintendo.
Man, whenever these big 3rd party pubs are going bankrupt you always see people saying
>Nintendo/MS/Sony should buy them!
but that wouldn't make sense. Part of the value these pubs have comes from their experience doing multiplatform development, which Nintendo or Sony wouldn't be able to exploit at all. Hence Nintendo/Sony would not be willing to pay as much as some other company.
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>>381535035
I heard a guy talk for 10 minutues about how capcom ruins everything and can't be trusted only to somehow say in his conclusion that you should trust the MH developers anyway cause they have "pedigree" and that the game looks fantastic and will still be "hardcore". If they are not doing it on pourpose then hype hijacked their brain.
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>>381525683
Of course it makes no sense. Why the fuck would a Japanese video get a million views in a day when the Japanese rarely use YouTube. I would understand if it got pushed to NicoNico and got high views, but even 2 million in a day is stretching it. Notice how it's still at 2.5 million. The number of views should be much higher if it got a million in a day, and it should have been trending.
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Fuck Capcom, I'm a Sega boy
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>>381525575
How can capcom be losing money when only nintenbros nimoriy are mad about MHW and every true fan loves it??
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>>381531702
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>>381527661
>switch axe
>giginox
>khezu
>brachydios
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>>381536519
Ok Peter, keep beliving this, everytime you say you don't belive in them a dev dies!
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>>381536740
>on a 13 M user base
if we keep the ratio. PS4 at 4.5 M is 1/3 the size

so 350K sales in Japan for MHW...........
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>>381536901
>PS4 has 4.5 million sales in Japan
>only two games have exceeded 1 million in sales
What the fuck are they playing?
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>>381536901
Moving goalposts.

Also who bought a WiiU for MonHun? No one. Yet it sold.

Not thst it even matters, this game is geared towards westerns, thats why XX is not localized.
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>>381534974
>beats his wife
Goddammit I've been trying to learn more about this ever since an anon mentioned it some days ago. Give me a quick rundown on THIS.
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>>381535620
>What is Retro and MonolithSoft
>>381535949
Yeah, I see it too man. On leddit, all the posts that criticize MHWorld get downvoted. It's very weird.
>>381535960
Definitely. Sony or Capcom buying views for sure.
>>381536740
Thanks for proving his point. I'd also like to add that this was during Wii's height of popularity. PS4 is NOWHERE near as popular as Wii was.
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>>381537013
Sorry, Wii*
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>>381537067
> proving his point
No I didnt. He made a false statement, I corrected it.

And again, CAPCOM isnt relying on Japan here.
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>>381537013
>Moving goalposts.
not him nigger.

It sold out of Novelty and still 1M is pathetic.

XX sold 1.5M and capcom called it a flop
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>>381537067
>What is Retro and MonolithSoft
Not big pubs. Individual development teams get bought all the time by console manufacturers. Big outfits like Atlus or Capcom don't.
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Switch will get MH eventually.

Maybe MH World Portable or something.

Its pure insanity to think that a MH on a portable system in Japan wouldn't sell 3 million copies and to not release it
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>>381537148
>Not relying on Japan
Are they relying on FIFA playing chavs or CoD playing niggers? Are they relying on DS3 audience who couldn't outsell a 3DS entry (MH4U @ 4.1 million)
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>>381537152
Because it is a flop. On mobile. 1 Mil on home in the jap market is admirable.

You call it pathetic but
1). They earn more from domestic sales
2). Japan isnt as large as America or Europe. A million sales in japan is respectable.

Most games in japan on home consoles never reach million. In the west any successful game passes it.
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>>381536982
Even if people like to deny this capcom got scared 'cause the 3ds is old and phones are beating handhelds consoles in japan. For this reason they decided to pander to the west and to make the game more accessible (a cute way to say casualized). They are aiming for a new market since they tought the japanese one is going to die soon. It's understandable, how could they predict the switch?
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>>381537331
The fact you generalize doesnt change the actual fact that most western gamers play on home consoles and successful games make bank there.

CAPCOM is trying to make MonHun as successful as Resident Evil.
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>>381537318
Monster Hunter Freedom World sounds like a pretty name to me
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>>381537438
And resident evil 7 flopped.
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>>381537438
>As succesful as RE.
Guess what, RE7 didn't meet expectations so I guess they want World to do the same? Always love posts from uninformed idiots who just love to spew bullshit.
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So is mhworld the new dmc devil may cry?
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>>381537392
I simply wanted to know what the Japanese are playing on the PS4. The WiiU also sold a few million units in Japan, yet it has more million+ sellers over there than the PS4.
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>>381537510
> 3.5 mil sales
> flopped

Just because CAPCOM is delusional doesnt change the fsct those sre great sales. The game will never reach 10 mil, it needs to have COD or meme status for it. 98% of games cant reach that milestone.

>>381537534
So far the only one making dumb statements is you.
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>>381537678

Then I guess MHXX wasn't a failure either right? It sold 4.1 millions and will only get more with the release of Switch version in August.

MHXX confirmed for a hit, guys!!!!!
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>>381537332
you are the one moving the goal posts

if 1.5 M in handheld from a franken remanster/ remake is a flop, you think 1-2M from a build up from 0 console game will be even worth to mention??
HA
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>Nintendo consoles loses a series
>butthurt tinfoil hat-toting drones insist the only interest in the game is from bots because it's not on their console anymore
As someone who has played every Monster Hunter and is probably going to buy World, you guys are getting really sad.
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>>381537628
PS4 has more west geared games, Japs love Nintendo shit. They dont give a single fuck about western IPs and giod PS4 games are also available on PS3.
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>>381537761
Name me the source where it sold that much.

MonHun4 sold 4 mil.

So if it did get those numbers yeah its a hit.
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>>381537678
Capcom isn't delusional, they're desperate. They NEED a 7 million hit to save them from financial collapse. And they're hedging their bets on a big budget, multiplatform and westernized version of their only remaining cash cow.
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>>381537996
>7 mil
So capcoms fucked then
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>>381537534
Yes, they'd want that. We're not talking about a normal company. Capcom's ability to fuck up everything is like some sort of superpower.

>Lost Planet 3
>dmc
>SFV
>TxSF
>Breath of Fire becoming mobile shit
>MVCI
>Dead Rising 4
>Current gen Megaman collections that are worse than the PS2 and Gamecube ones
>every RE game released since RE6
>That Megaman X iOS port

Monster Hunter was the only thing keeping them afloat, so it has to join the JUST list at some point. It wasn't a matter of "if" only "when."
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>>381537828
Yeah no. I've seen you shitposting in these threads before, and your bait is shit.
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>>381537807
Im not moving a single post, you just pick and choose whatever part of my post fits you because you cant argue.

CAPCOM is not aiming World at Japan. A single look at the gameplay vids should tell you that.
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I bet there's tapes from the secret Sony/Capcom meeting!
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>>381527661
HH
Narkarkos
Rathalos
Good horns
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>>381538050
Guaranteed.
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>>381538089
>CAPCOM is not aiming World at Japan. A single look at the gameplay vids should tell you that.
this is stupid too cause Mon Hun has always flopped in the West
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>>381538080
>not being so mad that you resort to making up wild theories to cover up your butthurt is baiting
I'm sorry your faggots are so deluded and petty that you think anyone who doesn't follow your mental worldview is baiting. People like you are why MH threads are so shit now and anyone who has actually played through the series doesn't think like you.
You're also so fucking insane that you think everyone who uses the same common reaction image is also the same person.
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>>381537996
All the same then, any smart company would just focus on what works and sells without invedting too much into it.

That being said, RE7 recouped development costs.

CAPCOM is failing because they ruin all their best selling franchises. Look at their fighting games and platformers.
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>>381537965
Sorry, I was wrong in that post. I was talking about X/Generations. MHXX sold close to or over 1 million in it's first week.

We'll see how much MHXX sells when the Switch version drops.
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>>381537510
>>381537534
They planned for RE7 to sell 4 million in one fiscal year and it sold 3.5 million in like 2 months. Not a flop
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>>381538160
They're desperate because handhelds seemed to be going the way of the Kelbidrome. 4 years ago they didn't know the Switch would uncuck Nintendo.
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>>381538160
Except for 4U
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>>381538071

Yeah, but aiming for RE7 sale numbers would be a failure.
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>>381538258
That is a big game
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>>381538258
>1.3M on the west
>2.7M Japan
USA + Europe together only sold half what a island alone did
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>>381538160
>>381538160
Mh4 sold well west.

Also I never said CAPCOM was smart.

MHW is 4 years in development. No one expected Switch to be any more than a pipe dream then. Thry oreoared for the crash of handhelds as 3DS reaches the end of its life.
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>Monster Hunter threads are now about useless sales drivel, insane conspiracy theories, and fanbase wars all because a vocal minority is this upset that they're not getting World and desperately need it to be bad in their eyes
I really should learn to just be quietly anticipating the release on my own and not go to these waste of threads. I miss it when the OPs were just bait and actual game discussion would occur, but that hasn't been allowed to happen because the same self-righteous fucktards pointing the finger everywhere ARE the people making these threads so bad.
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>>381538342
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>>381538226

Fiscal year means before March 31st. The fact is that it didn't means it underperformed.

RE7 Launch: January 24, 2017. It was supposed to sell 4 million in 2 months and it didn't. Learn what a fiscal year is.
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>>381538342
I walked into that, but it's a big game and a damn good one.
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I think Capcom is making a mistake not having a portable version even if they have to downgrade on that considering the bulk of the existing fanbase seems to go to those, game itself looks fine to me though.
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>>381538401

Go discuss it in /vg/ or make your own thread. This is a legitimate video game discussion, most of it anyway.
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>>381538223
Less than the 3DS due to smaller install base but probably good enough to get a foothold for the next entry.

Honestly its the smartest move they can manage now.

In the west most people who own a 3DS also own any of the consoles/PC . So World will survive. In Japan its very common to only own handhelds if at all.
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>>381538387
You've proved me right. Doesn't discard the fact that it sold well in the West as 1.4 million for a series that's niche outside of Japan is very good.
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>>381538506
>This is a legitimate video game discussion
tinfoil hat theories on bots and sales fallacies along with any other way to justify blind presumptive hate isn't video game discussion. Don't be deluded
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>>381538527
How? I haven't seen similar games do big numbers. (big as in Capcom expectations big). I just don't know what they are doing with MHW
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>>381526860
Lol, the switch can't handle xenoverse 2 either
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>>381538538
yeah sure, and will make sense, HAD NOT CAPCOM killed japan support. so now the West alone has to shoulder MHW. Good Luck with that
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>>381538670
Yeah, the big open world of Xenoblade 2 looks too demanding for Switch. I think they should move it to PS4.
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>>381525683
Pfthahah

Wow, holy shit. Actual fucking autism
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>>381525575
I like MH, and I want MH on the strongest platforms so the developers can do more

Everything else is absolutely irrelevant. I bet <1% of the people who will join this thread will have played MH and are just wanting to use it as shitposting bait.

/thread
/sage
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>>381525683
>Nintendorks are this desperate
This is the equivalent of the kind of shit crazies in their camper vans out in the desert say.
>>381538818
I'm becoming convinced these threads are so bad because of the sour Nintendo fans. The worst posts in these threads are related to Nintendo in some way and I bet they're the people blindly hating World.
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>>381538729
They should. Xenoblade 2 looks and runs like hot garbage on the switch.
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Capcom just needs some downsizing so they can start making good games again.
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>>381538869
>I'm becoming convinced these threads are so bad because of the sour Nintendo fans. The worst posts in these threads are related to Nintendo in some way and I bet they're the people blindly hating World.
Its both

Its a bunch of underage Nintendo fanboys who cant grasp the fucking fact that the Switch is a weak fucking console. Great for generic Nintendo titles that havnt had a graphics upgrade in the last 5 years but utter shit for third parties who actually want to expand their games to something new and fun.

And then its also a bunch of sony fanboys who actually fucking think this is somehow a 'victory' for them. Even when its not even a fucking exclusive and the best version as fucking always will be on PC which will actually be able to handle the graphics and framerate.

The fact is the Switch is weak as shit. Handhelds are weak as shit. MH has been stagnated BECAUSE of those problems and nothing else. Whether it was Capcom management or the MH team who decided to switch it was the FIRST FUCKING SMART IDEA SINCE MH1.

Its like we've had MH for over a decade and now we're FINALLY fucking getting a real sequel. It always should have been a multiplat.
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>>381538621
Almost no game sells capcom expectations big.

I wouldnt rely on it as a metric.
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>>381539018
>The fact is the Switch is weak as shit
>runs BotW
graphix kids really are the bane of the industry
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>>381539079
It does matter when Capcom uses their metric as an excuse to axe franchises.
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>>381539018
I'm a long-term MH fan who is going to buy World on PC.
I hate the way these threads have become due to one side being endlessly salty that they lost a game and thus trying their hardest to delude themselves, and another side fueling it with their own shittiness and acting like it's an exclusive.
>>381539117
Yeah and look how fucking empty and simplistic botw had to be and they STILL needed to patch it.
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>>381539117
>>The fact is the Switch is weak as shit
It IS weak as shit. It is magnitudes weaker than the PS4/Xbone and its of course worse than an average PC

That has NOTHING to do with the quality of the gameplay, but fucking everything with the ability of the developers to offer better graphics. We;ve had nothing but MH games that look like utter shit for years, people are hyped to finally get one that actually looks nice for a change and the Switch couldn't handle this level of graphics.

If you're not going to admit the Switch is weak then you're literally just calling water dry and a complete fucking fanboy idiot.
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If you're Capcom, which of these two scenarios makes more sense?

1) Capcom releases Monster Hunter on the Switch, drives up sales for the console, and then Pokemon launches and directly benefits from the increased install base.

2) Capcom waits for Pokemon to be released on the Switch and then releases Monster Hunter to take advantage of the increased install base.

Why would Capcom spend their investments to drive up sales for the Switch? If the Pokemon Company isn't prepared to go "all in" with the Switch yet, then why should Capcom be expected to?
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>>381539018
Nigga I just wanted to hunt with my friends. We all have different consoles, but the same handhelds (3DS/Switch).
Capcom told me to go fuck myself.
Can you blame me for being upset?
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>>381539189
We both know that this MH game is going to be huge, and once it finally releases all this shitposting will stop.

We'll be able to have proper threads eventually, just not until release.
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>>381539248
>being an idiot and limiting yourself to one platform
>Capcom's fault
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>>381539189
>Yeah and look how fucking empty and simplistic
confirmed for never even touching the game
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>MH threads on the game being multiplat a few months ago
>MH threads today

Loving every laugh
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>>381539276
BUILD
A
PC
https://pcpartpicker.com/

Goddamn.
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>>381525575
>Thoughts on Capcom not putting MHWorld on Switch
Don't care desu
>not localizing MHXX?
Fucking gay
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>>381539234

MH3U - Japan - December 10, 2011 (3DS)
Pokemon X/Y - October 12th, 2013 (3DS)


NEXT!!!
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>>381539248
You have every right to be upset. I was almost going to go buy a Switch myself because I too thought it was the future of MH.

But these faggots crying that MHW will be shit, just out of spite because they are upset 'nintendo lost it' are trying to drag the game down for utterly ridiculous reasons.

People who love MH will follow MH. I bought platforms for it before and ill buy whatever it is on now. But every real MH fan should be happy we are finally free from shitty handheld limitations.
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I'm a Nintendo fan but uh are all of you guys okay?

>Sony buying views
>Japs don't use YouTube
>Monster Hunter World is downgraded and not a real MH game
>CONSTANT goal post moving

I just skimmed the thread but, not any of these points make any sense, I will play the game on PC and enjoy it, people who say it's not like the other MH games are literally false flagging. The demo that we saw looks just about as MonHun as ever.

MHXX will also be localized, how do I know? Because every MonHun game in the last 4 years has been localized, there's no difference here.
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>>381538390
MH4 did okay, but it didn't seem to do great. basically everywhere but japan was 1 million while japan was almost 3 million. MH is really fucking expensive to make for some reason. MH4G cost several billion yen which would amount to tens of millions of USD.
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>>381539330
Those posters were 100% right though.

Basing anything on a rumor is utterly fucking retarded. Glad MH is free, but no one should believe a rumor like that.
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>>381539329
BoTW has long patches of empty fields and until they patched it all it took was grass to kill the framerates. The graphics and textures overall really aren't the best either.
It's not my fault you're a drone who has never seen actual modern graphics. I've played BoTW, I like BoTW, but it relies entirely on art style to look the least bit passable because the graphical detail isn't there.
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>>381539383
Japs don't really use youtube though, they use niconico. That part isn't really wrong.
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>>381539189
>I'm a long-term MH fan
People that state their alliance only does to try to make his point more valid when no one else baits
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>>381539383
>>Sony buying views
EVERY single major video game company does this. Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, EA, Ubisoft, ect

They ALL fucking use viral marketing companies. Go look them up they are multimillion dollar industries, they are just as important as advertisers. Jesus even Ubishit shills here daily.
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>>381539383
There are a surprising amount of people who were stupid enough to lock themselves to one platform, the Switch, and as a result of this they have deluded themselves into believing all that you have listed. They want the game to be bad because they can't play it.
>>381539516
>blah blah blah everyone is baiting but me blah blah blah everyone needs to think the stupid way I do
Could you have your head any further up your ass?
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>>381539383
View scumming isn't out of the question. That image >>381525683 does bring up some good points. It got that many views in such a short period of time but somehow didn't end up on the trending list. Mario was trending when it was at 1-2 million views but MHW didn't trend at all.
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>>381539659
I'm pretty sure since it's a Japanese video you'd need to be Japanese for it to show up on trending. All other Youtube algorithms run based on region so.
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>>381539505
Eh it really is wrong though, YouTube is quite large in Japan but not nearly as big as niconico.

Saying "Japs don't use it" is wrong, like you're assuming shit that you read on forums and see posted around on what "Japs do" is correct. Japanese people also aren't as Xenophobic as you'd think.
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>>381539713
It was not trending in Japan, nor Twitter and hell, fucking Mon Hun World pre-order in Japan are not even open.
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>>381539659
Combine this with >>381527002
>>381539713
Not Japanese video
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>>381539760
>It was not trending in Japan, nor Twitter and hell
You have no proof of this and the tinfoil hat chart proves nothing either. It's bullshit analytics created with the sole backing of a confirmation bias.
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>>381539276
>Not reading
I have a PS4.
My hunting bros have PC/Xbone.
We all own a 3DS and Switch.
We can all play the game, sure, but we're limited to our respective homes and at most 2 of us in the same party.
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>>381539753
>Japanese people also aren't as Xenophobic as you'd think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FYuYkPgDkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pE2ms1P56I
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>>381539382
Bullshit. The series is going to die because of Capcom's idiocy. Wanting a "great graphics" MonHan isn't wrong, but it's fucking retarded that nobody is allowed to point out that Capcom is fucking themselves by trying to pander to the West and NOT releasing a portable Monster Hunter. They're trying to fill that niche with a hasty port of XX, but that is just a stopgap. If World flops, that's a massive drain of resources that Capcom can't afford.
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>>381525683
The only fact of this situation is anyone who believes this garbage "research" has a confirmation bias and is a NintenDrone who desperately wants to believe this game will be bad and fail.
The same would be said if some Sonyfag tried to claim a Nintendo video was botting
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>>381539813
Not him but can you prove him wrong? He also the date passed so it's hard for him to prove it with his post but if you can find a source saying otherwise he would be BTFO.
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>>381539469
False. That has been completely patched out on the Switch, the only area with drops are in the Korok forest.
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>>381539813
>You have no proof of this
IT was not trending. prove of it doing so falls on you nigga
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>>381539905
>w-w-well you can't prove that this claim out of my ass is wrong so it must be true!
That's like saying because we can't 100% prove we aren't living inside a giant bubble surrounding the universe then we MUST be living inside a giant bubble
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>>381539905
More proof of spoofed views
Link in the image - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1392453
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I'm a hardcore MonHun fan and holy fuck this just made me realize how utterly autistic Nintendo's hardcore fans are.

You guys were never Monster Hunter fans, you were Nintendo fans, you never cared about this series only "Hey this is on the 3DS, looks cool" and then started caring about the series and acting like MonHun was a Nintendo only thing. No Monster Hunter fan truly gives a fuck about where these games end up because we'll play them regardless, you sorry ass Nintendo fan boys sure are annoying, it's the "Oh if it's on Nintendo _____ console I'd be more interested" mindset that pisses me off, all of you faggots would eat up every Sony game if it was on a Nintendo platform and you know it's true.
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>>381539869
Oh noes! They stopped selling to a MINORITY market to start selling on a MAJORITY

Dooooomed!

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about you retarded nintendo fanboy. Have a nice day
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http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/salesdata.html
Looking at this Capcom seems immensely retarded to bet Monhan on the western market. Street Fighter is fucked, Resident Evil stopped selling blockbuster numbers, and Megaman is dead. Everything else is tiny in comparison.
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>>381539975
Dude, E3 is fucking over and nothing from that point is trending anywhere AT THIS MOMENT. Do you have sources proving that it was actually trending in japan a week ago?
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>>381540003
>unironically linking to Nintendogaf
>taking the "research' of Neogaf seriously or as "proof"
This explains a lot and explains why these threads are so shitty, that's for sure. All the autists in these threads are just retarded neofags
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>>381540043
Somehow I think you wouldn't be saying that if World was an iPhone exclusive.
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>>381527002
>MHW video 10 million views
Where?
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>>381531332
Yamauchi is the reason why third parties started avoiding nintendo to begin with.

Fuck that fag.
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>>381540015
Nintendo was the MAIN reason why the series is popular in the first place.

Nobody cared about the game until it was on the 3DS with Nintendo helping to promote it. We're just mad because Capcom is ungrateful towards Nintendo who worked hard to make an unknown series into one of the most popular games in the world for it's hardcore gameplay and Capcom abandons Nintendo like it's nothing.

People don't know this about Japan but they understand honor and know that Capcom have slighted them and the japanese people will stand with Nintendo against Capcom's decisions to move away from Nintendo.
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>>381539847
>here's this isolated event that happened 7 years ago, PROOF that all Japanese people are xenophobic and hate everyone!

I could easily take a clip from the Black Lives matter protests in US and say what a shit hole the US is, wow can you believe all of US is like this?
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>>381540051
Those series are all utter shit and not in any way comparable to a fucking TP hunting game going to be released just after a fucking huge Souls presence has been made
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>>381540116
>neogaf
>not sonyger central
Are you dumb?
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>>381540015
It's literally autistic Neogaffers who are trying their hardest to want this game to be bad. See >>381540003
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>>381540170
I can tell you're a seething Nintendo fag because you obviously didn't have a PSP and didn't know that MonHun sold the same amount on the PSP than it did on the 3DS

Try fucking harder holy shit.
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>>381540172
>I could easily take a clip from the Black Lives matter protests in US and say what a shit hole the US is, wow can you believe all of US is like this?
Yes, actually. The USA is a fucking shithole.
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>>381540170
Enjoy no MH game. You deserve it.

Everyone else is going to buy the most popular hunting game of 2018.

Enjoy your bitter life.
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>>381540173
If World only reaches that "fucking huge Souls" presence it will be a massive flop.
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>>381540003
NeoFag is literal cancer on the internet, if 4chan was le internet hate machine then that place is a fucking trash pit.
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>>381540265
Enjoy your casualised garbage while the real MH fans stick with the 3DS and Switch.
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>>381540232
>I can tell you're a seething Nintendo fag because you obviously didn't have a PSP and didn't know that MonHun sold the same amount on the PSP than it did on the 3DS
PSP MonHun Game also got a multitude of re-releases and those are all counted towards the singular games total sales, by the way.
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>>381540265
>world
>sell

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>381540173
>Those series are all utter shit and not in any way comparable to a fucking TP hunting game going to be released just after a fucking huge Souls presence has been made
>Souls Games average 2-3M sales
fcuking Japan alone sold 2.7M 4U

2-3M world wide MHW will be a flop on teh magnitude all Capcom exec will have to step down
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>>381540170
>Nintendo was the MAIN reason why the series is popular in the first place.
>Nobody cared about the game until it was on the 3DS with Nintendo helping to promote it
>We're just mad because Capcom is ungrateful towards Nintendo who worked hard to make an unknown series into one of the most popular games in the world for it's hardcore gameplay and Capcom abandons Nintendo like it's nothing.

This kind of post shows how big of a retarded and a total faggot you and everyone else who thinks like you are, and yet the saddest part is this isn't bait at all. You actually believe this drivel. You are actually this much of a deluded drone. I've seen nauseating garbage like this posted ever since World's release and the endless stream of tears began.

Monster Hunter hit it off with the PSP first. You wouldn't know that because you're a fucking Tribabby and a Nintendo cocksucker who thinks this is about "gratitude" when it's just Monster Hunter moving to more powerful systems.
>>381540312
>he unironically tries to use casualized as an argument when Generations exist
Fuck off
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>>381540265
>Everyone else is going to buy the most popular hunting game of 2018.
>Enjoy your bitter life.
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>>381525575
I'm glad Monster Hunter is finally coming out on PC. I feel for the people who wanted to play MH on the Switch, but as somebody who played 3U, 4U and Generations on 3DS and was going to buy XX, I don't really mind.
The recent details reassured me about World, but I still wonder how all the stuff they added is going to change the hunting experience.

Also, the new monsters they showed are the fucking ugliest ever.

Also also
>not localizing MHXX
If they were set on not localizing MHXX they would have stuck with that announcement rather than clarifying.
I mean, what's the point? The only argument is that it would have been a bad PR move, but who is going to retaliate and how? There are no Capcom games on the Switch in the near future to boycott, and people would make up their mind faster about buying World if you told them XX just isn't coming out.

I'm not saying XX is definitely coming out, but I doubt the decision is set in stone just yet.
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>>381540394
>he thinks world isn't already more casual then Gen
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>nintenbros acting like jews watching every 5 minutes of (((stock market)))
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can't wait for mh world to flop it will be top tier shipost material desu
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>>381540312
>Casualised garbage
>Enjoys MHGen

Yeah fuck off. You Nintendo babies are something else. "real MH fans" bought a PSP to play MH, they bought a shitty fucking 3DS to play MH, and I will do the same and enjoy MH on my PC.
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>>381540314
Bottom line is you were wrong, Monster Hunter ALWAYS Sold well no matter WHERE it was.

No one cares about where MonHun is, they just want MonHun.
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It would be best if Capcom stopped making Monster Hunter games, honestly.
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>>381540043
You have no clue of what you're talking about. Monster Hunter is and always has been a niche series. Western gamers on the whole don't buy many games. Soulsborne games are globally renowned and still rarely sell more than 3 million copies. Bloodborne didn't even get close to that number.

Meanwhile, the Japanese market LOVES portables, and carried Monster Hunter from being a flop on consoles to being a success, with Gen and 4U selling ~4 million copies each. This is in 1 single country.

MHW is console exclusive. It will not have the ability to rely on portable appeal. The game will need to deal with the realities of the preferences of a western market as well as the lack of support for nonportable gaming in Japan. This is the simple reality of the situation.

World is also a AAA budget title that is being developed to harness the power of console and PC hardware, with it targeting only 30 FPS on Xbone and PS4. That's ridiculous, considering the scalability and optimization capabilities of MT Framework, the engine it and every other MH game runs on. The development budget for this game far outstrips other MH titles, and if they spend a massive amount of money marketing the game in the West, the necessity of sales becomes even more paramount to recover that spent budget.

If you actually care about the series and aren't just a Sony shitposter, then I suggest you take a step back and actually think about MHW and Capcom's financial situation.
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>>381540485
No it didn't. Console MH games all sold like dogshit. Are you really this fucking stupid? MH only sold well on handhelds.
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>>381540394
Doesn't the fact that so many people know MH because of Tri and 3U prove that Nintendo DID make the series more popular?
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>>381540309
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>Can't criticize World's poor decisions because then you are a Nintendofag
>Bringing up any of the current flaws we've seen in gameplay trailers immedietly gets dismissed with "It's just a beta/demo/special case"
>Legitimate points being dismissed because its got Grafix and its not on a handheld which must obviously mean its good

Monster Hunter threads use to be the best threads on /v/ because nobody gave a shit about what console it was on, Generation being a subpar game and now World causing a consolewar divide has ruined this community at least on /v/.

It's really a shame cause back in the day the community discussing MHFU is what convinced me to buy a PSP to try the series and stick with it all these years.

I hope MH:World turns out fine but honestly Capcom is on a roll with ruining their IPs and nothing I've seen so far has really filled me with confidence.
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>>381540451
Well if Switch keeps getting casual MonHun games then looks like you'll be getting the flops poor little Nintendo fag boi.

I have a Switch too, will be both playing XX and World at the same time, how's it feel that I'm cucking and double dipping you?
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>>381540173
DaS3 sold 3 million worldwide you dumb fuck. 3 million is considered a flop for 3DS MH in JAPAN.
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>>381540554
Don't forget "IT'S OKAY WHEN WORLDS DOES IT"

>Gen comes out
>has anime shit
>"LMAO WTF IS THIS SHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHA"
>MHW shown to have anime shit
>"This is fine."
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>>381540554
>Monster Hunter threads use to be the best threads on /v/ because nobody gave a shit about what console it was on
How new are you? There was nonstop shitposting after Nintendo paid Capcom to cancel the PS3 monster hunter so they could have Tri.
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Toukiden 2 > MH 4U > MH XX > Garbage > Monster Hunter Portable 3rd >MH3U>
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June 18, 2017: Number of likes - 58,195
June 23, 2017: Number of likes - 10, 097 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro6r15wzp2o

i WONDER WHAT HAPPENED
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>>381540526
No, read >>381540015

Nintendo fans will eat anything up if it releases on their platform.
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>>381540634
>any monster hunter clone
>not complete fucking garbage
>especially fucking toukiden of all things
Die.
>>
Nintendo fans are communists/sjws
1) Obsessive
2) Paranoid
3) Spend all day talking about how to make their movement stronger
4) Spend all day spreading lies and disinformation
5) Masters of double standard
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>>381540485
>MonHun always solf well.
Thats not what X/Generations sales said but I think its just because honestly people called Capcom out and waited for XX the superior version.

Capcom is incredibly easy to fuckin predict.
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>>381540629
I've been in the threads since MHFU was first released and even with it jumping ship to Wii with Tri it wasn't this bad. In fact people were HAPPY because P3rd never got localized which pissed people off and the rumors of Capcom jumping to Nintendo because Sony tried to force trophies down their throat.

It was nowhere near as bad as current threads. So the real question is, how new are you?
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>MH threads 5 years ago
>Sony fans mad that MH is gonna be on the 3DS
>thousands of threads attacking PSP and Vita owners saying how MH belongs with Nintendo and how if you're a fan of the games you'll buy a 3DS instead
>today
>Nintendo fans assmad about it not coming to the switch and instead is on three platforms that everyone owns and can play
>Nintendo fans not following the game series as fans but instead as zealots mad that they've lost their one exclusive

This is amazing, after years of shitposting on PSP/Vita fans and now it's hilarious to see the tables turn on Nintendo fans.
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>>381540687
>i never played toukiden 2
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>>381540643
>8 million views
Wait, what? Since when?

I thought the jap video had the most views at 2.5 million? Also how does a video with that many views have so little likes? Also why the fuck wasn't this shit trending?
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>Nintendies need to bring up stocks because they're upset they can't play World on Switch
>Nintendies need to make up bullshit conspiracy theories about views because they're upset they can't play World on Switch
>Nintendies need to talk about sales while not knowing a thing of what they're talking about because they're upset they can't play World on Switch
>Nintendies need to lie and delude themselves with fallacies about the game because they're upset they can't play World on Switch
>Nintendies need to pretend the PSP games didn't sell well because they're upset they can't play World on Switch
>Nintendies will play the victim and point the finger when they're the major reason of why these threads are so terrible
I don't even have a PS4, I just think this is getting really pathetic.
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>>381527106
I'm iffy on this notion. Because if it does fail, I fear they just lean harder to the west and the series keeps becoming more """streamlined""".
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>>381540657
>No True Scotsman: the post
Fascinating read. It doesn't disprove my argument in any way.
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>>381526235
MHWorld isn't even a PS4 exclusive, faggot.
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>>381540758
Even God of War and Spiderman were trending with less views than that.
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>>381540782
If they fail and Capcom collapses, I'm sure that Nintendo could just acquire them.
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>>381540583
I don't even own a switch and I've never played a Monster Hunter before I just hate Capcom and think they deserve to fail
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>>381540526
Except Tri sold less than the PSP games. Just because you're a Nintendo-only kiddy doesn't mean other people didn't know about the series prior.
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>>381540719
Nice selective memory you got there. Proof that you're new as fuck.

But hey, you don't even remember that the reason Capcom supposedly jumped ship had nothing to do with trophies and everything to do with online and multiplayer changes Sony wanted.
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>>381540731
Fan boys are and always will be cancer, it always takes a year or two for the hardcore fan boys to filter out and then it's normal MonHun threads.
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>>381540826
Yeah, I saw that. MHW is definitely looking weird.
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>>381540834
Tri was the best selling console MH ever, especially in JP.
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>>381540898
That doesn't change the fact that despite what the obvious Nintendo-starting people insist the games sold well before being on Nintendo consoles, which was the original point. Stop moving the goalposts for once.
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>>381540838
Then I guess I have brain damage because I remember more people being happy with the change due to the idea of more games being ported to the West while Sony had dropped the ball with P3rd/P3rdHD.
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>>381540898
Yes, and? There isn't a single nintendo entry that has surpassed 2G and P3rd in sales. Even in Japan 2G is considered the pinnacle of Monster Hunter.
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Monster Hunter sucks and always has.

I played one on PS2, one on PSP and one on 3DS

They are all the same fucking game any person who defends the 3DS MonHuns especially should fucking burn in a fire, there is absoultely no innovation there its the same fucking garbage ass game that was on the PSP.
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>>381540995
All the PSP games got re-releases you dumb fucker.
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>>381525683
Hot damn you guys are really trying to take the butthurt throne away from bayonetta 2 and bloodborne huh? This is wildfire tier rump roasting, I can't even bring myself to false flag anymore.
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>>381540898
It would have sold just as much on a PS3, Nintendo had no part in it.
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>>381541046
>he keeps moving the goalpost
No matter what you say, the fallacy that Nintendo made the series popular is wrong. AKA the original point.
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>>381541034
>What are new weapons/mechanics/monsters
The series has always been a strong foundation and slight changes to the formula because guess what, its a good fucking foundation.
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>>381541098
>It would have sold just as much on a PS3
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>>381541046
What the fuck are you even talking about? P3rd only got ported to PS3. 2G stayed on PSP only.

Only 1 was remade as 1G for Wii.
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>>381541046
And Capcom released the same game like what, 3 times on Nintendo platforms?
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Anti-fanboys need to fuck off.
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>>381540643
Something about that one particular video is definitely weird.

>8 million views but wasn't trending at all
>8 million views but hardly any likes/dislikes
>the like/dislikes actually went down after a few days
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>>381541046
You're a fucking retarded Nintendo fag, you're so hopelessly new to the series and MonHun its obvious you started playing MonHun on Nintendo.
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>>381541194
What, 4, 4u and G? So should I lump all those together then say it sold more than the psps versions?
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Monster Hunter threads really are terrible pre-release time.
This exact same shit happened when 4 was first announced and is the exact same shit when Generations was announced. I swear it's the same fucking faggots who come back to complain every generation and then they fuck off once people are having fun.
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>>381541259
Something about this post is definitely off, smells of neofag and reddit.
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>>381540978
You have massive brain damage.

Sony wanted an inbuilt online network because the west can't make use of adhoc the same way as Japan.

Capcom got mad and jumped ship. By the time P3rd was ported to PS3 Nintendo had the publishing rights to Monster Hunter in the west. It's the same reason why Tales of Vesperia PS3 never came over, because Microsoft had publishing rights.
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>>381541331
I've never been to either of those places. Since you can't help but think about them all the time why don't you go there faggot?
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>>381541317
Exactly my point retard.
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>>381541340
>Sony wanted an inbuilt online network because the west can't make use of adhoc the same way as Japan.
Whenever I look this up the only source is a random gamefaqs post which leads to them sourcing "a random guy on the 3DS forums"
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>>381541396
So then 4 is the best selling and the original claim that no Nintendo MH sold as well as the PSP MH is false?
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>>381541259
Youtube controls the trending tab. That's how a video about a dog with only 50,000 views can end up trending. Stop being stupid. You can legitimately buy your way onto trending so long as you're family friendly, just like twitter.
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>>381540643
>>381541259
this is too funny, please stop
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>>381541443
Proofs?
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>>381541440
You and the other guy are retarded. 2G is only registered as 2G. Portable 2nd is a different release and has its own sales total in Japan.
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>>381541428
Compared to the other rumour of Capcom moving to Nintendo because Sony wanted trophies in MH which they already have in the PS3 ports of the game which is far less plausible.
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>>381541440
This is how brain dead Nintendo fags are everyone.
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Haven't seen this much bitterness and hope that a game will fail like this for a while.
Oh well, at least I get to try MH on PC.
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>>381541259
>>381540643
>>381525683
>literally "I have no idea how Youtube works so I'm going to create a conspiracy theory to fuel my confirmation bias and fanboyism" the posts
NintenDrones have reached a new low. I miss it when the only source of shitty posts were the purists who haven't played a Monster Hunter since FU. This is so much worse.
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>>381541565
Pointing out how a video with millions of views never ended up on the trending list isn't tin-foil hat tier you fucking idiot. I haven't even played MH since Tri.
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>>381541628
Yes it is because views don't control what goes on trending you fucking drone. But you'd believe anything if it helped victimize your side.
Videos with barely any views make it on the trending list all the fucking time.
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>>381541259
People like you are really special, never change please. You are like the one guy who goes out in his back yard and has a telescope set up on the moon thinking he'll see something.
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>>381541565
>>381541542
>>381541507
>>381541470
>>381541443
>>381541331

Totally not damage control, am I right fellow non-shills? There 's nothing going on here people. Nothing at all!
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>>381541772
>if you're not a delirious tinfoil-hat wearing system drone like me, you're a shill
Are the person from the screenshot this guy posted? >>381540763
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>>381541628
YouTube themselves decide what goes on the trending part of YouTube.

How often do you see PewDiePie on the trending page? How often do you see videos with less then 100k views on the trending page? More than enough times at least in my experience.
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>>381541730
>>381541745
Yeah, show those stupid autists how wrong they are to criticize the AMAZING game MONSTER HUNTER WORLD (coming out on PS4, Xbox One, and PC in 2018!)
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>>381539330
>MH Threads before MHW were chill and good
>now it's pure console war faggotry between Nintenbros, Sonybros and Mustards
We can't have nice things.
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>>381541470
>>381541259
im not a wizard but im sure this (pic related) is not normal

>>381541565
Faggot For comparison

Assassins Creed Origins: 3,081,414 views// 58,102 Likes - 5,111 Dislikes

Marvel's Spider-Man (PS4): 8,630,455 views// 149,105 Likes - 3,335 Dislikes
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>>381541772
And Sony is poisoning our water to make us like Monster Hunter World

#NOTMYMONSTERHUNTER
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>>381541835
How DARE you imply that someone could even POSSIBLY believe there's something going on behind Monster Hunter World's MASSIVE views? Something that the great CAPCOM themselves have ACKNOWLEDGED? Those 10 million views are clearly from DEDICATED FANS and there is NOTHING wrong here.
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>>381541852
>he's not even aware of how petty he sounds
have you ever stopped and realized Nintendo doesn't care how much you suck their corporate cock, and don't care what crazy theories you make for them?
>>381541910
>different videos have different like:dislike ratios
WOOOW
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>>381539380
That's exactly why Capcom is making the right call. The Pokemon Company continued to capitalize off the DS market and waited for the 3DS install base to grow before they bothered releasing a 3DS Pokemon game. Capcom supported the 3DS out of the gate and helped grow the install base in the first place. What a shitty deal for Capcom. This time around, Capcom is going to wait for the install base to grow. If the Pokemon Company is going to wait to release a Switch game, then you can't fault Capcom for taking a similar approach.
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>>381541893
Give it a year after World and XX gets localized and everyone will calm down, chill MonHun threads will return but I don't know why these non-fans come in here.
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Monster Hunter threads are dead
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>>381541978
>Out of 8 million people, only 10,000 like it. That means only 1 out of 1000 people like MHW's trailer enough to click the like button, an extremely simple act.
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>>381540554

Yup. I'm just staying away from MH threads now. I'm hoping World will be great but given Street Fighter, Resident Evil, DmC, etc. Im not to optimistic.
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>>381542061
Good, fuck this series I hope it and Capcom both die

After all they've fucked up they deserve this shit
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>>381541745
>>381541848
>>381541730
>>381541565
>>381541507
>>381541470
>>381541443
Holy shit you retards have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Youtube's Trending Algorithm is based on internal views, external views, and likes ratio within a given time period.

"Trending Videos are videos that have become popular because they were embedded in the web’s most popular websites and a significant number of people viewed the video externally in addition to on youtube.com

It varies according to your country. The algorithms rank the videos which have most views and likes in a given span of time which is recently uploaded videos."

You faggots saying that Youtube decides what is trending or that Companies buy trending slots are just as bad as the people you accuse of conspiracy theory tier bullshit.
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>>381541978
>>different videos have different like:dislike ratios
>WOOOW
8M views and only 10K likes. only 1 out of every 800 people watching the video cared to click like???

even fucking all time hated videos at least get a hit on the dislike

that many views with so few L or DL means bot views
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>>381542068
youre an idiot
most videos with millions of views only get thousands of likes
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>>381542061
Metroid threads are at least fun again so some good came out of E3
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>>381542068
I'm no math genius, but 10,000/8,000,000 does not equal 1/1,000
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>>381542126
>tfw there are two Monster Hunter MMOs both locked to Asia because filthy gaijins
>Frontier has been ported to everything from Xbox 360 (the worst selling console in Japan) to Vita
>Dragon's Dogma Online also locked to Asia
FUCK CAPCOM JUST TRANSLATE THEM PEOPLE WOULD PLAY FRONTER/ONLINE/DDO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381542146
What the fuck do you expect from a board of literal autists and failed college dropouts? Most of these idiots don't know how to do basic research and believe the first agreeable bullshit somebody tells them and won't budge their stance from then on afterwards.
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>>381542068
>>381542179
And your most logical reasoning behind it is conspiracy theories. Not laziness or the fact that vast majority of people already don't use the like/dislike system or even the fact that it's likely more people dislike something like fucking Assassin's Creed or the very polarizing Spider-Man, but a tinfoil hat theory. You're a really logical person and totally aren't fueled by confirmation bias and brand loyalty. I totally believe you're not from Neogaf.
>>381541967
This post reads like someone slowly losing their sanity and mental state. I'm really glad i'll never be this rectally wounded.
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>>381542186
>most videos with millions of views only get thousands of likes
>gets proved wrong already
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Where can I apply for Worlds?
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>>381542186
>most videos with millions of views only get thousands of likes
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>>381542237
Your post is very unironically describing the kind of posts that believe this conspiracy theory and the kind of posts that purposely delude themselves into believing a certain thing out of brand loyalty.
You faggots have absolutely zero self-awareness.
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>>381542006
What I don't get is why they announced MHW before releasing the Switch version of XX in Japan. It's clearly going to detract sales from XX instead of getting people to buy both games.
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>>381542186
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>>381542227
I know you're not a math genius, considering that you can't use a calculator function on your computer to measure this. 1/1000 was an estimate, it would be absolute 1/1000 if it were 10k divided by 10 million, but 8 million is only 2 off from 10 million. This means that in reality, the result would be 0.00125, or 1.25/1000. That's basically 1/1000.
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>>381542348
Japan gets both parties satisfied, if someone owns a Switch but not a PS4/XboneX/PC then they get XX and vice versa with World.
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>>381542006
That logic only works if the consumer habits of both groups are the same, in this case they aren't. Console owners don't buy MH, handheld owners do. TriG outsold Tri 2:1 on a third of the install base. By early 2018 a Switch version of World would utterly trash the PS4 version in Japan.
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>>381542186
should I keep going???
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>>381542146
Aside from reddit spacing this post got it right, though YouTube does apparently accept money from larger companies to put their videos on the trending tab.
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>>381542227
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>>381542424
>le reddit spacing
I just copy/pasted that quote, I didn't space it myself you idiot nigger.
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>>381542186
im taking requests, what game should I post next??
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>>381542321
look at any video pewdiepie gets
you're an idiot
youtube is based on subscription models

for most accurate look at a movie trailer with 5+ million views
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>>381542398
It's Japan, they would get both on the Switch. Capcom is missing out on easy money and you know it.
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>>381542398
If they have a Switch and one of the other three, like many people do, they'd be more likely to just get one and not the other.
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>>381542332
Or you're just a dumbass who excuses things when they're on your side? It's not a lack of self awareness when we literally know how Youtube works, and that MHW's trailer is an extreme outlier compared to pretty much every other trailer from E3.
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>>381525575
Ironically by not localising XX they are fragmenting the fanbase even further.

Because the vets will be divided on the new game. They probably would have bought both anyway. I dont see MHXX cannibalising sales of the new game at all.

It is real baffling to see.
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>>381542454
Calm down faggot, your shitty post still reads like trash and is fucking spaced out like an autist, I don't give a fuck if it's not your fault.
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>>381542486
>look at any video pewdiepie gets
>Half the views
>double the amount of likes/dislikes vote
HA HA HAH HA HA
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>Monster Hunter threads are so infested with fanboy shitters full of an intense sour desire for a game to be bad that they've devolved into conspiracy theories and continued deepened delusion
Well, that's it then. There's clearly nothing redeemable left in these. Never before have I seen threads become so bad so quickly.
Time to fuck off until World is released and the threads go back to normal after all the non-fans get over themselves. Enjoy this ungodly shitfest.
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>>381542541
Imagine if you were a fan that actually enjoyed generations and now you just got shut out of the G-rank version because some unrelated game in the same franchise is coming to other consoles.
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>>381542489
I'm pretty sure they just don't have the time and/or manpower to port MHW to the Switch. I mean they aren't even getting the PC version out at the same time as the Xbone and PS4 versions. They'll likely release a Switch version about a year later unless they actually were being paid not to.
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>>381542310
Too hard for World.
Rejected.
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>>381541730
>Yes it is because views don't control what goes on trending you fucking drone
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT YOU PEOPLE REALLY ARE FUCKING RETARDED.

People have already broken down how the trending algorithm works on a basic level. 85% of what causes something to trend on YouTube is YouTube views. It's actually not possible for something to get millions upon millions of views in such a short period of time and not end up trending in some way. MHW's Western announcement trailer is spider-Man tier in views yet it wasn't trending in any capacity. all you fuckers ITT need to an ehro ASAP.

https://www.tubefilter.com/2016/06/23/reverse-engineering-youtube-algorithm/
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>>381542627
>hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr I'm going to imply Nintendo fans are the problem while pretending to be neutral
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>>381542605
>clearly is wrong about ratios
>confirmation bias
>HAHA IT ONLY PROVES IM MORE RIGHT!
i can't argue with stupid

you're literally inventing a narrative with no evidence
referring to a like dislike ratio isn't proving your point

and your austic level of disconnect from reality sperging over 1 comment just shows how delusional you are
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>>381542670
>dude some tin-foil retards found out how to make some bullshit graphs AHAHAHAHAHA MHW IS A COMSPIRACY LMAO SONY BTFO

Fucking pathetic.
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>>381542727
>You're wrong because I said so
You have not made a single coherent and cogent argument this entire thread besides saying "IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY" and "YOU'RE INVENTING SHIT FROM THIN AIR".
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>>381542727
>get proved wrong that the voting ratio is wrong compared to views
>move goal post to like vs Dislike Ratio
the shilling is fucking real
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>>381542679
Look at this thread and these posts. Nintendo fans ARE the problem. They talk about sales, stocks, and theories all in one hatred-fueled attempt at defacing a game they don't have before it's out.
The only reason they're in these threads, the only reason they care and lie to themselves about everything, is purely because of the console. I can guarantee if this was being released on Switch these threads would be completely different. Only reason you fucks get away with it is because you're the most vocal in these threads.
Take one last (You) if you want, when you're finally bored bitching over essentially nothing I'll be busy playing the next in a game series I've been playing before you even knew about it.
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>>381542838
What's fucking pathetic is that you believe that you can actually dismiss evidence out of hand by smugly saying "Fucking pathetic". You even brought in Sony like the fanboy you are.
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>>381542061
Good desu
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>>381542897
All the idiots ITT who were shitting on people for mentioning that the western MHW trailer is suspect already got BTFO repeatedly.
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>>381542856
>because i said so
its because you have no fucking evidence
you're conspiracy theory tier full retard sperging

>MUH RATIO
literally confirmation bias
>MUH STOCK PRICES
literally full retard you have no idea how stock market works
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>>381542897
You want to prove that the game is worth discussing? Then maybe allow actual discussion instead of dismissing everything as "whining" and "fanboying". Talking about sales? Legitimate. Talking about dislikes from what we've seen in footage so far? Legitimate. If you can't handle criticism of your favorite series, then maybe you should fuck off from these threads instead of whining about how everything should be a hugbox.
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>>381525575

Monster Hunter World will be the definitive Monster Hunter.

I suggest buying a PS4 (Pro, the most bang for your buck) to prepare for Monster Hunters greatest rebirth and homecoming.
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>>381542893
your argument is that view to like ratio is consistent
its not
you proved yourself wrong, and used it as confirmation bias

you're literally full retard at this point, and a waste of time
goodbye, you have fun spamming 50 more threads like a sperging autist im off to play vidya
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>>381542627
I'll make it my personal mission to shit up any "comfy" World threads :)
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>>381542670
>It's actually not possible for something to get millions upon millions of views in such a short period of time and not end up trending in some way

So what exactly was trending this E3? Mario Odyssey, Rabbids, God of war, Days Gone, and Spider-man were trending. Was there any other multi-million view video on youtube that didn't trend? Even Ass Creed trended for a little bit. I think MHW is the only one that has so many views but didn't trend.
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>>381543003
>Talking about sales? Legitimate.
Not when the game's not out and people constantly show they are clueless as fuck, like the people who thought the Nintendo games were the first to sell well.
>Talking about dislikes from what we've seen in footage so far? Legitimate.
For every criticism actually from the trailer there's at least 10 things said that weren't actually shown at all.
Also I like how you constantly use the term "we" which just shows how much of a hiveminded mentality the Nintendo fanbase carries. Not to mention all the posts made by them are exactly the same kind of posts and equally pathetic.
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>>381525575
>not putting MHWorld on Switch
Don't really care. Like any Switch owner, I also have another means of playing MHW, so it doesn't affect me one bit. I do have reservations about the changes being made that have been shown off, but raising that issue only gets me labeled a "salty nintendo fanboy" and spammed with nintendo wojacks, so discussion on what we know of MHW is a waste of time

>not localizing MHXX
Personally I'm a little disappointed in this because I actually do bring my Switch with me and wanted a portable MH that I could also play on a big screen, but in the end it's not really a huge loss as I already have XX on 3DS with a fan translation.
What personally worries me is what Capcom plans to do with MH based on World's performance. If my past experiences with Capcom's methods are any indication, then there are 2 likely scenarios, both of which I would regard as bad for western fans. MHW could sell and then we'd only ever get MHW-styled console-only titles while leaving the portable entries in Japan, OR MHW bombs and Capcom kills the franchise entirely.
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>>381543117
The main problem is that MHW has views competing with THE MOST VIEWED TRAILERS of E3, and it didn't trend. If it was on the lower end of views, like around 3-4 million, then there might be a legit reason.
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Gonna save this thread in the archives. This is going to be interesting next year.

I still can't believe that people are defending the obvious view-padding. I wonder if shilling actually IS real.
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>>381543117
Battlefront trended as well.
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>>381531184
Veteran here, we could already do that in Frontier. I am not happy about World casualizing everything.
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>>381531184
Actual MH fans don't give a shit about graphics you fucking idiot.
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>>381542634
Oh yeah, that of course is an excellent example.

What makes it so weird is that they were casualising MH anyway. So why even make that new game? Why not just put an upgraded HD MHXX out there and save so much time and resources?

They even already HAVE a Monster Hunter MMO they could upgrade to the XX engine and transfer over. (Technically 2 because of the chinese MMO)
Get that shit localised on the cheap.

Its just baffling. Honestly. All this seemingly unecessary work, and for what?
A gamble on a new game people might actually hate anyway.
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>>381543312
Have you played Frontier as a western fan? Is it worth the setup?
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>thread full of NintenDrones has a mountain of similar posts and similar mentalities
>all of which are petty and delusional
I think the big difference between Nintendo fans and Sony fans, both of which are shitty, is that while Sony fans shitpost out the ass Nintendo fans have an undeserved sense of self-righteousness and fully believe everything they post and aren't shitposting, which quite frankly makes the Nintendo fans worse.
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>>381542897
>I can guarantee if Capcom wasn't ignoring their millions strong guaranteed audience in a desperate attempt to grab Western casuals, nobody would be complaining about Capcom ignoring their millions strong guaranteed audience in a desperate attempt to grab Western casuals!
You're a regular Sherlock Holmes, aren't you anon?
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>>381543158
>Using we means everybody's a Nintendo hivemind fanboy!!!
Nice extrapolation, dumbass. Maybe "we" means everybody who's seen footage so far? You aren't even hiding your console bias anymore. And no, people aren't "clueless as fuck" about sales. It's been proven time and again that the series doesn't even break past a million on non-portable systems, no matter how much you want to frame this into an argument about Nintendo. Also, you want to maybe explain how having criticisms would totally be negated by new mechanics beyond what's shown? Are you seriously saying that we can't take what we've seen in a vacuum because it's "not fair"? Maybe I should remind you that not only are we on an imageboard based around discussing videogames, we are on motherfucking /v/.
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>>381543250

Of course shilling is real. Ultimately companies want you to buy their product. Generating buzz and brand awareness aren't too difficult to implement and are cost effective. Ubisoft is great at this with their supposed leaks.
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>thread full of SonyDrones has a mountain of similar posts and similar mentalities
>all of which are petty and delusional
I think the big difference between Sony fans and Nintendo fans, both of which are shitty, is that while Nintendo fans shitpost out the ass Sony fans have an undeserved sense of self-righteousness and fully believe everything they post and aren't shitposting, which quite frankly makes the Sony fans worse.
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>>381543414
Yeah, no. Nice try Sonyshill. You can pretend that Sonygers aren't "true believers" all you want, but pretty much everybody who isn't one of you faggots can see right through your shitposts. Why do you even bother?
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>>381543250
>obvious view-padding
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>>381543448
Just remember this everyone'

If MH was on the Vita instead and the Vita didnt get a western localisation of MHXX or a port of World, western MH fans would be equally as pissed.

Platform doesnt matter. Peoole go where MH goes. What does matter is that a game that is pretty easy to actually localise is not getting localised for no real good reason and its just real dumb on Capcoms part.
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>>381543448
Most criticms are people lying to themselves and making assumptions. I see shit being said in these garbage threads every day that wasn't actually seen in the trailers or any gameplay at all, but if I point that out i'm called a shill.
>you aren't even hiding your console bias anymore
Says the NintenDrone in a thread full of NintenDrones believing conspiracy theory bullshit lmao. I'm buying World on PC and I've had a 3DS for years, I'm just fucking shit of you console fanboys being as retarded as you are.
>>381543415
You're a complete and total fucking idiot if you only have a Switch to play games on.
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i think the game looks cool, never played a monster hunter before but i will definetely pick this up on my ps4
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>>381543584
>no argument
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>>381543643
>no new IP count
Nice try samefag.
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>People are mad because an online game is coming out for platforms with actually decent online infrastructure

Why would you want to play MH on a switch? XX is gonna be shit.
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>>381543568
>muh Sony
NintenDrones are the biggest hypocrites around. Both sides are retarded, but this thread in particular shows how stupid Nintendies are.
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>>381543643
Nothing personal but I hate that this is the target audience for MH:World.
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>>381543584
>all the shit posted ITT and he still thinks capcom scumming views is out of the question
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>>381531184

I could give a shit about graphics. All I care is about the gameplay. Everything we've seen thus far is indicative that this is another more of the same Capcom Westernized casualized they've been spewing.
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>>381543681
The game has never had online issues, in fact it only started using an online infrastructure with Tri, before that it was only Ad-hoc.
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>>381543693
>Former Nintendo fan here
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>>381543681
>ps4
>Decent online
LOL
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>>381543618
Platform doesn't matter. If it's a portable. It does matter if it's console.
>>381543627
>Most people are lying and making assumptions
No, XX arts and styles being implemented into normal play is not "lying and making assumptions". Healing while running is not "lying and making assumptions". Automatic tracking fireflies is not "lying and making assumptions". Being able to switch out gear whenever you want is not "lying and making assumptions". By the way, I have a PC AND a PS4. You have literally zero excuse to label me a "NintenDrone" besides your own consolewar delusions.
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>>381525575
Don't really care about world not being on switch since ill play it on pc, but them not localizing XX is fucking bullshit. I was well aware gen would be the unfinished version, but i still bought it to support mh on the west, but them not putting out XX feels like being stabbed on the back. Like, you localize stories but not this, fuck off. That shit will sell like 10 copies max
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>>381543805
Don't forget fast travel and the hook shot.
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>>381525575
I can't tell if OP doesn't know how stocks work or if he's trying to bait people those people.
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I remember some time ago capcom was on the verge of going under. What happened? How much long to wait because I want their IPs were handed to someone more competent
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>>381543693
>Spells NintenDrone the exact same way as a few other posts
>Pretends to be someone totally different and neutral in those posts

You faggots really are the most delusional mongs on the planet.
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this rabid company fanboyism of monitoring stocks so you can feel like your "team" is winning, jesus christ
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>>381543805
>>381543857
>i-i-it's just a stage demo.
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>>381543681
You better not be implying that PSN has decent online infrastructure.
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>>381543408
It really depends. The game is the most content you could ever get from the series, and if you like it getting over the top nothing surpasses Frontier endgame, but the grind is absolutely unreal. Consider your Plate/Gem/Mantle farm, now multiply it a solid 4 times. At least you always have full parties of mostly good hunters.

I love how often I am called a Nintenbro because I dislike a majority of the changes in World, when in reality I have put untold hours in to games on the PS2, PSP, 3DS, Wii, WiiU, and fucking Frontier. People can have thier damn graphics, I want content and playerbase. Give me 3U or 4U with Frontier levels of content any day over Open World Casual Hunter.
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>>381543857
I didn't. I just didn't list everything because I was getting tired of typing all that shit out. I figured 4 examples were enough to get my point across.
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>>381543805
>No, XX arts and styles being implemented into normal play is not "lying and making assumptions".
It's a lie. You saw a bunch of moves that looked too anime for you and now say it's XX arts and styles, even though it's an obvious lie.
>Being able to switch out gear whenever you want is not "lying and making assumptions"
Another lie, you can switch gear only in camps to which you can only farcast when out of sight of monsters. It's also barely a casualization to be able to switch equipment mid hunt, just unfucking of anything that isn't raw on multi monster hunts.
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>>381543953
I get you man. I'm relatively new to the series (Started with Tri) but I'm just tired of Capcom fucking up all their franchises. I may be "new" to MH, but I'm not new to their other shit.
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>>381539931

Proove it wasn't trending.
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>>381543953
How hard is it to set up?
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>>381543972
>It's a lie. You saw a bunch of moves that looked too anime for you and now say it's XX arts and styles, even though it's an obvious lie.
You want to tell me how that's a lie when that's literally what it is?
>Another lie, you can switch gear only in camps to which you can only farcast when out of sight of monsters. It's also barely a casualization to be able to switch equipment mid hunt, just unfucking of anything that isn't raw on multi monster hunts.
It's not a fucking lie if you can go to your base camp at any time, and have easy access to farcasters in the form of those flying mounts. Seriously, your quibbling over (false) details is pathetic.
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>>381542036
Because they saw an opportunity to stir a previously unstirrable pot and have taken advantage of it with so much shitposting and falseflagging that people actually believe what they're saying.
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>>381543805
>Being able to switch out gear whenever you want is not
To be fair when the map is as huge as it is and you'll be able to hunt multiple monsters without having to go back to a hub world, being able to switch out equipment at a camp between targets makes total sense. Instead of backtracking to your hub between every hunt you just go to the camp for gearing up for the next target. Not every change is "casualization," but people never stop and question why a change is made and just assume.
>XX arts and styles being implemented into normal play
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Hammer spin is out there but the other added moves we've seen are fairly tame. Great Sword's in particular is normal.
The rest I can understand but I personally don't care about enough to not buy a new Monster Hunter. What I've enjoyed with the series is still intact and I like the new detail with the monsters and environment. Anyone who cared about "casualization" should have stopped playing games ago to be honest.
But of course I'm clearly just a fucking shill and am getting paid millions by Capcom for saying this like I've been accused in every thread, so whatever.
>>381543861
Not him but NintenDrone is a common filter bypass. Spell it without two caps and it's filtered to nintenbro
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>>381539151
> Axe their only consistently selling franchise

Might aswell do a Konami and get into pachinko
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>>381543953
I would say the grind is actually pretty well balanced out, barring Hiden/Tech skills and Raviente.
Being able to purchase parts especially some of the rare ones helps a massive ton plus you generally get a greater number of drops per quest overall if you play your cards right.
It does feel a lot bigger I'll admit since you have so many more options at every point so you tend to work on multiple projects at once.

I guess the nice side of that problem is that you're rarely locked into a single monster to fight for hours on end.
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>>381540015
FFS why do people actually fall for the shitposters?
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>>381525575
>not putting MHWorld on Switch
Who cares? I have a PC.

>not localizing MHXX?
Probably not a permanent state of affairs.
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>>381539151
If that was true then Monster Hunter would have died at Frontier, or Tri.
Every console MH has comparatively low sales and they know this.
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>>381544172
Most of these arguments are about people who claim XX and Gen are horrible but applaud the changes in World. It's immensely hypocritical. Most people don't really care about whether or not the game will be "bad" because of these changes, but that these changes in an effort to gain more mass appeal will fail and MHW will flop because of a failure to sell enough. And even if some people did believe that these changes are bad, that's still a valid opinion, like how you think the changes are fine.
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>>381544108
>You want to tell me how that's a lie when that's literally what it is?
But it literally isn't what it is. A style is well defined,and so are the moves those styles contained.
You can't just see a bunch of new moves and because they are too crazy looking call them that. None of those moves were on the level of a million iframes dodge in essence too.
>It's not a fucking lie if you can go to your base camp at any time
You can "head" for camp at any time. First you need to lose your monster though, which isn't as easy as just switching zones. Those flying monsters are more limited than actual farcasters thanks to them working only out of combat too. It would be more casual if there were actual farcasters.
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>>381544297
What other profitable franchises does Capcom have at this rate compared to back then?
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>>381544023
Capcom do such weird shit man.
Take the switch port of SF2. They didnt need to go to all that effort at all. You know why?

Because they already had a "HD" version they could have ported over. But even then they dont even need to do that because they have Hyper SF2 they could have ported over.

They didnt even need to do even that because they have a dreamcast version of Super Street Fighter 2 X they probably have the source code knocking about somewhere to they could have ported over.

Or even then they could have just used an emulator and licensed GGPO.

It just so fucking stupid and pointless. How havent they burned down their own offices out of their sheer stupidity yet?
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>Game has been in development for 4 years
>Monsters still clipping through each other like it's PS2
>Still janky as fuck
>Scripted sequences instead of a DYNAMIC INTERACTIVE ECOLOGY like the shills promised.
>Removal of classic MH mechanics like flexing etc.
>Shills say thats new monsters are more dynamic and aggressive yet they run away every few seconds and fight each other in scripted sequences.
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>>381544297
Tri had a portable release, and I highly doubt the budget is as serious as World's is. Capcom wasn't also in nearly as bad a shape back then as they are now. It isn't about axing series now, it's about the entire company collapsing.
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>>381539448
I honestly find that hard to believe considering its such a technologically stunted game that just builds on the assets of previous games, going back as far as Freedom Unite.
The combst uses thr same clunky old animations, areas are dtill few and separated, monsters are recycled with a new color.

How it the world due they manage to waste millions of dollar, dozens of them at that.
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>>381544361
Source code from older games isn't kept around that often
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>>381543859
They were never on the verge of going under, that was just yellow journalism
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>>381540148

Pretty sure that's just a typo and is meant to say 1 mil.
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>>381544172
Part of the issue is fans looking big picture, Generations was a major shift in terms of the core games but it was written off as kind of an "anniversary" edition and that we'd get back to the status quo right after.

Now though that doesn't seem to be the path Capcom is going down, they are reinventing the series and that causes legitimate concern since every time they've done this has killed said series.
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>OPTIONAL hunter arts and styles are bad because MUH ANIMUU WEEB
>hunter arts and styles which are incorporated in the weapon moveset is ok because MONSTER HUNTER WORLD WITH GRAFX
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>>381544319
>valid opinion, like how you think the changes are fine.
Literally every time I try to explain why they may have done something other than casualization like with the camps or any time I'm fine with something there's multiple cries out of being a shill so that's a freaking first.
I liked Generations, I think the progression was bad so I never finished it but I never minded the Arts and Styles. I still think it's an exaggeration though to say World is just porting it over when webm related is still worse than the hammer spin, which is the only anime new move we've seen so far.
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>>381544464
No, there's a jap trailer and a western trailer on youtube and combined it's 10.5 million views.
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>>381544424
Goddamn I hate using a phone.
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>>381544374
Yeah, that's something that bugs me. These "monster interactions" are things that are proclaimed to be dynamic and natural, but that takes an immense amount of resources and budget that Capcom does not have to create. This also makes the game extremely intensive. I highly doubt the fighting between monsters is nearly as dynamic as claimed, and will essentially just boil down to taking advantage of free distractions and damage they'll deal to each other.
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>>381544440
If so then how come they can NES collections with enhanced features and extra challenges?
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>>381544495
>Generations, I think the progression was bad so I never finished it but I never minded the Arts and Styles. I still think it's a
We're seen greatsword spinning and a longsword moonjump slash. So that's three.
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>>381525575
>1 day
Goddamn computer illiterates.
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>>381544504
>combined
Oh
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>>381544518
Don't forget a sleep bomb did 90 damage but Rathalos unleashing his cinematic attack did 1128 damage.

We are going to get a fucking Tri scenario where its a really low monster count because all of this extra effort and if they make the interactions increase kill times dramatically then every hunt is going to feel like "do I drag the monster over here and see if some other monster will do damage for me?" which is dog shit.
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>>381544562

Also SnS Shoryugeki-like move where he leaps in the air. It's in one of the leaks
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>>381544562
>Greatsword spinning
Two overhead horizontal slashes is hardly spinning anon.
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>>381531332
Yeah, he would have done that. And it would have scared off 3rd party support for another couple of generations.
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How do you like your new LS move in World?
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>>381541565
Even on official Crapcom channel there is much more better (real) ratio for Japanese audience obviously - 2,5m views and 25k votes
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>>381544660
That's clearly not World. What's your end game?
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>>381544589
I haven't watched the full stream yet, but fucking really? The main appeal of the series for me are basically the nonstop boss battles. Just having to wait out 2 monsters in an encounter is bad enough, but they're balancing shit around those fights too?
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>>381544023
Funny enough, I started with Tri as well. I just like going back and playing all the games in a franchise I like. 1 and 2 show their age, but Freedom Unite really kicked the series into high gear, and I can see how fans at the time thought Tri was lacking. P3 just wasn't the same to me without swimming, which ironically most people hated. 3U and 4U were the peak of the series in my eyes. If World was just a big upgraded port of 4U on PS4/PC I would be all over that shit.
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Pretty sure it's because Capcom isn't sure how strong western sales of MH will be. It's not really a big game in the west. MHW is aimed at testing those waters with its high accessibilty as a AAA multiplat. If it does well I imagine XX will be localized for the switch here. Just have patience. That's what owning a switch is all about. Plus its only 1 week till BoTW dlc pack 1 anyways. That should distract you for a day or so.
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>>381544660

>move taken from the most anime MH game is OK because MONSTER HUNTER WORLD with GRAFX
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>>381539018
>you can't have complex gameplay without muh graphics
Sure, mate.
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>>381544660
Does this mean frontier fans are going to shit all over the game like when Hypno/Lavasioth showed up in MHFU?

>>381544724
I think they are going off the deep end on the hunting side of things and its cutting back on the actual monster fighting things, apparently wanting boss battles isn't the core audience they were hoping for.
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>>381544716
He's making a joke.
Like I am too.
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>>381544745
But they literally can't afford to "test" the waters, especially not with a big budget title

That's what has a lot of us worried
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Nothing we've seen in World is as bad as Frontier (yet) and I can't help but feel like a lot of the posts complaining about Capcom or insist they're gonna kill the series don't know about Frontier.
Unless they surprise us by saying they brought back the Tonfas, or those garbage, trash tier subspecies that were more anime than Generations, Frontier will always be the worst.
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>>381544801
holy shit
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>>381544801
That saber palico is cute
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>>381544528
Games can be recreated if there's a dedicated team behind it, it's just the actual source code that doesn't necessarily hang around
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>>381544801
>call a mini Rath to come pick you up
This seems cool and fun. Did people really hate this mechanic?
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>>381544801
>tfw dumb enough for MHO
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Ninfants literally indubitably efficiently BTFO, everyone gets world but them wowwwww!!! Developers are abandoning nintendo, soon only the core ninfant exclusives will remain!
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>>381544067
Not too hard, just a bit time consuming.

http://fist. moe
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>>381544597
No, it's when the not!jaggi was on the ground trashing and the guy started beating it with his sword. it was a horizontal slash, then he recoiled into another one by spinning around a little (this isn't the one i mentioned earlier) then he recoiled AGAIN with a flashy spin then did an air jump anime slash attack on the monsters head. Watch the part again.
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>>381544804
They literally already did that with RE7. and MHW was likely in development around the same time. Worst case scenario sales are soft and they move back to normal.

I DON'T think there's ANY chance this game "bombs", especially with a 3 system release, one being PS4, another being PC, both of which have big install bases (compared to switch, the only alternative for a new mh game...). Dogma did 2million on consoles and another 700k+ on pc, MH is most likely guaranteed that amount. Whether that's the ceiling is to be seen.
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>>381525683
So people that are excited watched it multiple times and were generally too busy watching E3 footage to push LIKE buttons. Big deal.
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>>381544589
>mb did 90 damage but Rathalos unleashing his cinematic attack did 1128 damage.
>
>We are going to get a fucking Tri scenario where its a really low monster count because all of this extra effort and if they make the interactions increase kill times dramatically then every hunt is going to feel like "do I drag the monster over here and see if some other monster will do damage for me?
don't forget how the swallow monster distracted is for like 20 seconds as he ripped it to shreds in a cinematic experience.
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>>381545010
Well yeah this is true.
And organisations do stupid things like losing cource codes all the time.
But a big company like Capcom I would expect would at least keep some of it in their HQ somewhere in their archives.

If they didn't then that would be really stupid. Like if Blizzard didnt have the source code to Diablo 2 anymore so they could never patch it to work on future windows versions (after all its a game that pretty much sells endlessly).

It just seems like more effort to recreate a game in its entirely than simply porting it, but eh, what would I know?
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>>381545197

MH4U on 3DS ONLY did 4.2 million and MHGenerations on 3DS only did 4.1 milliion (Generations was considered below expectation)
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>>381526860
That's a stupid thing to say even considering you are baiting.
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>>381545170
From that description alone it sounds kind of cool to me to be honest, and again I didn't hate Arts or Styles.
I don't know why such a big part of this fanbase hates """anime shi""t" being added to the game, whatever that means, when this is the same series that was founded on talking cats that you could dress up, cute guild girls, and everything involving the pig.
Not to mention swords bigger than your entire body which if you want to go by the demonstrated logic is already """anime""
I have no qualms with movesets getting additions, it's better than removals.
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>>381529531
This is posted so fucking much since the MHW reveal, and I actually feel like these are just shills. This is retarded, PS2 games were clunky garbage, PSP is where it finally got better.
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>>381545264
Companies probably didn't expect that there would be a market for older, remastered/ported games in the future, especially for games made before last generation.
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>>381545317
That looks fucking amazing, where is source vid?
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>>381545094
Well, those are the ones I buy their systems for, so I'm not really concerned.
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>>381545317
this HUD looks straight out of a MMO
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>>381545346
>I don't know why such a big part of this fanbase hates """anime shi""t" being added to the game, whatever that means
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>>381545197
The problem is 3 million would be a flop
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>>381545346
The issue with arts/styles I feel is more just an issue with Adept and soon to be Brave as well.

Adept fucking breaks the game, you can dodge everything and then get free attacks off it so easily it trivializes actually fighting anything. If Generations had just been Aerial/Striker/Guild people would've probably hated it less. Also the Arts for some weapons that are locking you into animations or things like Insect Glaive where its just a super overpowered buff further detract from the combat the series is known for.
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>>381545409
>it looks amazing

the meatiness of the single slam in the air feels better imho
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>>381545448
I don't see the problem other than maybe balancing issues because some arts/styles were broken. I don't get how this is "too much" in an unrealistic game about fighting giant monsters with weapons that put the Buster Sword to shame. A lot of it just smooths out the combat.
They still have never reached Tonfa levels of silly.
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>>381545516
Adept timings need to be more tight. That's the main issue. It should be hair trigger type shit to react and dodge attacks.
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>>381545409
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKE9iVz-Ig
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>>381545471
No it wouldn't.

Who are you trying to fool?
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>>381545440
>THE HP AND STAMINA BARS DON'T COVER THE TOP OF MY SCREEN
>THE MAP DOESN'T COVER 40% OF MY SCREEN
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>CASUAL, WESTERNIZED, MMO, BUZZWORDS
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>>381545684

According to Capcom, it would. Have you been reading the thread?
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>>381545346
Fans are becoming more and more scared of mainline fulfilling its destiny of becoming alt-Frontier.
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>>381545684
You have no fucking idea how expensive MH is. MH is like AAA tier game development and that was just on handhelds. MHW is more expensivethan something like MH4G and MH4G cost several billion yen to produce. If MHW only sold 2-3 million that would be bad.
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>>381545689
>any words I don't understand must be insults!
>IT WAS NINTENDODOS ALL ALONG, THEH SALTY F.AM! XD
Monsters having health indicators ruins the game for me.
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Does Generations not have the "press A once to skip all text" setting in the settings?
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>>381545748
What's wrong with Alatreon? He's probably one of the more normal monsters and is just the other Elder Dragons but bigger.
There's monster designs far more out there than him that aren't from Frontier
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>>381545268
>>381545471
Yah, and clearly they'd have no chance in hell of reproducing that for Switch given there isn't even 4-5million install base. AND, the games would cost $60, which already is a major change and would lead to less sales then 3ds versions, just like how MHXX switch port cost. 3ds had a 60+ install base. Sure mh sells best on handheld, but in this very specific point in time they probably did the math and decided other systems was their best bet.

This is especially true given nobody fucking new how Switch would do when MHW got greenlit. They're not going to wait to see if it was safe to make games on it. So mh4 main (Team A) worked on mhw while "portable" B team worked on mhxx. They know consoles gravitate to "shiny graphics" so they had to invest more heavily into that as ps2 shit graphics would not ever sell on modern systems that isn't portable.
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>>381527661

HBG
Deviljho/Garuga
N/A
Deviljho/Garuga
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>>381545684
Capcom is literally relying on the series to prop up their entire company right now.
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>>381545832
But they don't, it's just damage numbers, which they said specifically veteran players can turn off the damage numbers.
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>>381545748
Mainline and Frontier are further apart than ever.
Because Mainline keeps making Hunters crazier and crazier while Frontier just makes the monsters crazy.

And frankly Frontier's method is far better.
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>>381545729

Well they're just trying to itch their way out of responsibility to the fan base if they say that.

They would absolutely have a financial success at on their hands even before selling just 2 million.

But they might want to have an excuse for not making more of the same if their don't earn really really big.
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>>381545895
The option being there makes it mandatory. Nobody will willingly gimp themselves for no reason.
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>>381545832
>Monsters having health indicators ruins the game for me.
What the fuck are you talking about? Monsters have no HP bars

Also I never mentioned Nintendo, so you actually ARE a Nintetoddler since you're obviously feeling insecure about it and bringed it up
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>>381545838
I wouldn't call a grand wizard a normal monster if I were you.
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>>381545987
The hunter has a heart beat sensor now which basically acts like a health bar.
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>>381545895
>there is no health indicator
>when it was right fucking there in the webm being discussed
Drones defending this shit are beyond delusional. I'm fucking done.
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>>381545895
Monsters have a heartbeat sensor on the map that pulses to show its approximate health once you've leveled up your scout flies enough.

Not to mention you kind of need the damage numbers as there's no more blood splatter to give you a hint on monster weak zones without looking them up.
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>>381545970
You have no clue what their budget is like for these games.
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>>381545965
>implying Frontier didn't make the hunters craziest
Tonfas.
>The option being there makes it mandatory. Nobody will willingly gimp themselves for no reason.
Is this Autism? If something bothers you, you turn it off. You won't know whether or not others have it on or not, so if it's a personal bother you turn it off and forget about it. This is some fallacious logic you're running on.
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>>381545778
That it would be bad doesn't mean it doesn't make any money. A game is not by itself a flop just because it doesn't sustain seven other abortions.
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>>381545965
One of my big complaints so far with World is all these baseline improvements to the Hunter in terms of faster animations but the Monster still seem exactly the same as they have been prior.
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>>381525575
>MH obviously made for the more powerful gen hardware and not weaker tablet console and MH port of 3ds game not coming to Switch """YET""" is being blown out of proportion as Nintendo being "DOOMED"

XX will come, it will just take forever like always. I think Switch owners can manage for the time being.
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>>381545987
Nope, this is me >>381543953
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>>381545970
>They would absolutely have a financial success at on their hands even before selling just 2 million.
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>>381546097
Second part meant for
>>381545978
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>>381546057
Do you?
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>>381545978
>The option being there makes it mandatory.
The option is your damage numbers, not the monster's health like you implied you dingus.

>>381546015
Ok this is actually disturbing now. You're completely fabricating shit up out of thin air. You're either actually autistic or Nintendo's cock went so far up your ass it literally touched and damaged your brain.

Or both (not uncommon)
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>>381546104
>That it would be bad doesn't mean it doesn't make any money
What? Of course it would make money. The point is that it wouldn't make nearly enough money to warrant the cost of making the game. Are you fucking dumb?
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>>381545867
That's got nothing to do with whether the game itself is a flop.
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>>381546158
So three separate people pointed out the same shit within a minute, but because you didn't see it they all just made it up?
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>>381546158
Are you fucking retarded or something? Did you not watch the fucking stream? There's a heartbeat sensor now you fucking idiot. Holy fucking shit are the people defending MHW idiots who haven't even caught up on the latest news?
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>>381546121
But it's true.
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>>381546097
Tonfas aren't crazy at all, not compared to CB and all of the fucking styles.

The kick off the monster gets like a foot at most while Aerial's launch goes sky high with no effort. The only boosting Tonfas can do is with the weapon itself, no magical concentration and suddenly I fly through the air with my greatsword.
All they are is fast. No i-frames that start off of a monster's attacks, no mounting, no arts, none of the stuff that every hunter can get in Generations.
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>>381546308
No it's not because MH is really expensive to make. If MH4 only sold 2 million worldwide that would be considered a flop due to how expensive it is to make.
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>>381546104
If a product does not make enough money to surpass the budget used to create and market it, it is considered a bomb or a flop. You can sell a billion dollara worth of product, but if you spent 2 billion making it, it was a flop.
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>>381546167
They would make more than the game cost to make.

Whether it makes enough to warrant the production is a different and more senior corporate discussion.

But if a game makes itself back, it's not a flop. Just the company makes it is a flop for believing the game could sustain all their other bullshit.
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>>381546375
How do you know if 2 million sales will make all the money back?
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>>381546342
Dude, you have no idea how nuts tonfas get.

>no iframes
Loling at your life.
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>>381546342
>Tonfas aren't crazy at all, not compared to CB and all of the fucking styles.
You didn't play Frontier, clearly.
When used right Tonfas allowed for near endless air time and instant jumping around in the air while constantly being on the attack. You became Dante.
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>>381546349
But selling 2 million of World WOULD make back its budget.

The trouble is they're expecting it to cover much more than just its own production costs.
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>>381546483
>But selling 2 million of World WOULD make back its budget
It really wouldn't based on past trends, but you are welcome to prove that statement. World costs less than Generations to produce? Despite vastly more high quality graphics and far more marketing?
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>>381546483
>But selling 2 million of World WOULD make back its budget.
PRoof?
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>>381546347
Please provide a source.

>>381546428
How do you know it wouldn't?

Budgets aren't that crazy for ANY Japanese productions outside of Final Fantasy XV.
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>>381546647
MH4G alone (not MH4) has

200 dev staff
1.5 years dev time
several billion yen budget (tens of millions of dollars)

About 30-60-ish times more than your average Japanese game, for an expansion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc0rdazCw24
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>>381546606
>>381546629

Proof to the opposite?

I know I'm the one making claims here, but I find it rather unlikely that World's budget goes above 40.000.000 dollars.
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>>381546467
I'm pretty sure you didn't play it since if you actually tried that, you're slapped out of the air as fast as you got up it.

If you're going off the youtube videos that's a perfect run with a strategy that's already been nerfed to hell and back in JP, where the player practiced and knows the tells and dodges by heart, because you have the smallest i-frames while in the sky, so small Evade+2 does jack shit because they aren't even longer than the default i-frames.

If it works, it looks cool.
If it doesn't, which is far more likely, you get smashed out of the air.

But hey, I'm only at the max GSR with tonfas, so what do I know.
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>>381546158
its confirmed dude.

https://youtu.be/vWMHoaRXw5Q?t=8m25s
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Budget = expected sales * profit margin
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>>381546748
MH4G alone was that much at the very least. Stop being stupid and see >>381546712
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>>381546712
The budget would have to be above 40 million for the costs to not be made back by two million sales.

Of course I guess advertisement and other PR efforts are on top of that, so of course it'd need to make considerably more to be in the black at the end.

Probably making 3 million not a silly number. But that's not what the game actually cost.
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>>381546880
Yeah, I'm not convinced.
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>>381546945
>Someone posts proof
>I'm not convinced
Well okay.
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>>381546887
So now you're bullshitting in an effort to make it seem like you didn't get BTFO? Even then they're only talking about the games production costs, not advertising or marketing costs.
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>>381546945
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>>381547007
>>381547009

Whatever.

2 million would most likely make the game not a loss to produce, but would be considerably less profit than would warrant going further down the same path.

I like to see a distinction between that and a "flop".
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Why is Capcom so incompetent?
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Yeah a MH for Sony is only for Sony fans, not MH fans. That's how it works.
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>>381547189
They made good games then tried to appeal to wider audiences to make more money and its routinely flopped for them but they just keep on doing it cause surely it'll work next time.
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>>381547341
Just like how Bayonetta on Wii U somehow shat all over Bayonetta fans.
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>>381547485
Or MH on 3DS somehow shat all over MH fans
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