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So do we all agree it's shit yet?
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>mmo
yes
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>>381523030
Oh thing that shit is Lyse and SCH. Everything else is cool
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Let's make Lyse a SCH.
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>>381523030
>Susano > Ravana
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>>381523141
>single adlo costs more than aetherflow restores
JUST
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>>381523194
She would literally be Jackie Chan with a book. Fucking deadly
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>>381523141
>Oh thing that shit is Lyse
Divisive as she is, she's better than Y'shtola. Who's now been written out of a second expansion without doing a single fucking thing.
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>tfw main BLM and immune from the cuckshed because it's yoshi-p's main
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>>381523030
>Story
SB>ARR>HW
>Music
ARR>HW>SB
>Dungeons
SB>HW>ARR
>Zones
ARR>HW>SB

It's a good expansion but has its faults. I'd say it's the best ff14 has been though.
>>381522392
She puts you in an ice block similar to the goal from titan thing is it never disappears. You are stuck inside until someone destroys it.

>>381522479
Titan you can tank the gaols and it only does like 1/3rd dmg. They go away shivas ice block never goes away.
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>>381523680
>SB>ARR>HW
Completely wrong
HW>ARR>SB
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>>381523680
>Music
>ARR>HW>SB

This is the worst opinion I've ever heard
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>>381523680
>Story
>ARR>HW
I'm genuinely curious as to why.
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>Bio III and Miasma III are both 30s so SMN only ever needs to cast them together

>SCH only gets Bio II and Miasma
>Miasma is still only 24s
>You typically do Miasma -> Bio II so what the fuck

Just add Miasma II to corruption mastery without AoE and make it 30 seconds so there's one less aneurysm I have to have as a SCH.
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So wait, they killed SCH?

I was planning on giving the story another chance after losing interest due to Nanamo retcon and WoD plot being such utter garbage but now I'm not sure.
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>>381523030
>tfw 55 SAM
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>SCH OP for all of Heavensward
>Turns the job community into a bunch of insufferable and pompous cunts
>Consistently brag about how amazing their job is and how much they contribute to the raid
>Spit on everyone below them
>Yoshi notices this and nerfs them
>BAWWWW HOW COULD YOU DO THIS

I feel absolutely nothing except pure joy. Eat shit SCHfaggots, you deserve every last bit of this and I hope it stays this way for the rest of the expansion.

Love,
AST
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Holy shit the DPS queues are REAL right now, maybe cause its late but I tried to run a roulette with SAM for shits and NOPE
Made the right choice taking a tank through Main scenario
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>>381523918
>So wait, they killed SCH?
Completely, stance dancing was removed and clerics is now a cooldown, meanwhile for sch mana regen was nerfed, heals were nerfed, fairy was nerfed, bane was nerfed and bio 1 was taken away completly. Class is dead, I have not seen a single other 70 sch other than myself and I'm releveling as SAM
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>>381523918
>Loses 3 dots (Bio, Miasma II, Aero)
>Bane nerfed to fuck
>nu Cleric stance is worthless
>Shadowflare only lasts 15s and has a 45s downtime
>They made Adloquium even MORE expensive
>Excogitation would have been useful in HW but is kind of pointless in SB
>nerfed fairy heals again
>Aetherpact/Fey Union has a 2 foot radius on the tether
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>>381523796
ARR didn't have huge retcons and a really horribly written plot involving travelers from another world coming here doing fuck all and being whisked away by not-god saying she'll fix everything.

Not the same guy but ARR didn't have the same high highs as HW, but it also didn't have the same low lows.
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>>381524019
>AST literally complaining about someone else being overpowered

I can't wait until you get fucked next when Yoshi sees people running double ast and nothing else.
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>>381523918

I just got done with Susano as SCH and good lord was it difficult. Managing mana is so damn difficult now and we don't have any sustained damage anymore to make up for it. The other healer was a SCH as well, which made it even worse. We both pretty much had to use EoS in order to keep everyone alive and we both went oom pretty often. It's depressing when I think of everything I was capable of before Stormblood.
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>SAM literally has a *teleport behind you* "nothing personal kid" move
I fucking love this job.
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>go to kill RDM in Frontlines
>teleports 100 yards away and nukes me
Cool
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>>381524101
>>381524143
Stance dancing being gone is all I needed to know, sounds like they shitcanned healers in general then.

Thanks anons, guess I'll skip for now.
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>>381523775
Really how so?
For me ARR has
Leviathan, Shiva, Titan and answers is the best theme
HW has ravana theme and thats it but dragonsong is better than revolutions. Music isn't bad it just doesn't have many remarkable themes
SB has the day time music of steppes and shinryuu, revoultions is shit
>>381523796
For me the end of 2.0 was great. I loved all the 8 man dungeons and fights we got. The whole huge scale war theme. Even ala mhigo is a war scene but it never feels like such a large war as with 2.0.
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>>381524165
Oh right, I forgot about the patch story being considered.

Yeah, that stuff was pretty lame.
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>>381524213
>double AST
It's going to be WHM/AST. There's no reason to bring two AST.
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>>381524213
>Implying SCH wasn't OP in Heavensward
Are you fucking retarded? The job was a fucking monster and was still a monster even when AST got superbuffed in 3.4.
I feel nothing for you. You deserve every bit of this fucking karma and I hope you enjoy the bench that WHM kept warm for you towards the end.
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>>381524213
I can't wait for the first balance patch where they nerf ast into the ground and overbuff sch's to convince them to come back
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Anyone else around who felt that Shinryu was fairly disappointing?
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at least SCH has SMN they can be playing while Yoshi unfucks the job. When AST is gutted we are going to have nothing.
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>>381524349
I can't wait for the first balance patch where they adjust SCH a little bit and don't nerf AST/WHM but SCH treats it as if they are back to being #1 and demands reparations from everyone else.
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>>381524351
I liked the spectacle, but it was soiled for me by the EU DF continuing to be a festering group for complete and total fucking retards.

Cleared it with FC when they caught up, but jesus christ Chaos DF is a shithole.
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>>381524316
Stance dance removal I could actually live with if SCH's entire kit otherwise wasn't fucked with.

It does allow for more treacherous gameplay like throwing in last second heals without having to worry about cleric stance and other shit like Assize being 100% effective (Because it does full damage potency and full potency heals)
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>the state of PvP
Shit needs to start giving EXP for in match actions instead of match completion, like yesterday.
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>>381524357
>SMN
SMN got it worse than SCH did.
>Make a really fun and fluid DoT class
>People whine its not a TRUE Summoner
>Gut it and make it revolve around clunky burst phases with an obnoxiously huge bahamut
"Thank's Yoshi-P now EVERYONE will know I'm a SMN as I block half of the screen!"
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>>381524403
Believe what you want friendo, but 1/3 of healers are quitting or rerolling and dps are constantly crying, there's guaranteed going to be compensation buffs
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>>381524213
>double AST
>keep overwriting each others' Balance because they can't see each others' cards now
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>>381524349
>SCH
>Buffs
Only WHM is getting buff SCH time in the sun has come to a end.
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>>381524519
What sort of group do you play in with no communication?
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>>381524349
>Implying
Nah, you'll get the AST treatment until everyone stops bitching.
See you in 4.4, when your job becomes on par with AST again!
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>>381524527
Believe what you want friend
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>>381524483
at least their dots are equal in time now I guess

their..two dots.
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>>381523569

I kind of like that Lyse is so divisive and the love or hate for her is so strong in any given direction.

It just means she did her job as a character.
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How will they handle blue mage?

What weapon should they use?
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>>381524345
SCHfag here, nobody gives a fuck about being re-balanced down to average or even weak state, but taking away all the shit that made the class fun to play is just retarded, it's not that they neutered the numbers, it's that they neutered the interactions.

Didn't even play most of HW so I can't even talk about how "OP" they were, but they used to be fun to play with stance dancing, proactive healing and overall just thinking ahead instead of waiting for shit to happen and responding like most heals.
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>>381524590
I loved HW SMN and its a fucking joke what happened to them in SB because of people complaining about "class fantasy" I can almost guarantee that the people screaming for SMN to be "more of a summoner" didn't even play it.
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>>381524549
or they could just take a "does so much damage that they'll actually benefit from Balance" WHM instead of a second Balance dispenser
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>>381524487
Yeah, that's what ASTs thought when Heavensward released and we were all waiting for the 3.05 balance updates that would fix the class.

Go look up the 3.05 patch notes for a sneak peek at what you can expect to receive.
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Have you ordered yours?
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>>381523030
This is it's most succesful expansion to date and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>381524357

SMN no longer has Sustain, which means that they pretty much have no way to keep Titan-Egi alive, since Physick is weaksauce for them. I can't imagine progressing with them is much better than SCH.
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Im a crafter and fuck thecmain quest
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>>381524483
>fighting an a rank
>suddenly 4 bahamuts
It's pretty fun to see that kind of thing happen
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>>381524752
I feel like Dreadwyrm and Deathflare were flash enough. You should see PvP its a shitshow.
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>>381523680
i feel like you can only compare 2.0 with 3.0 and 4.0

for me it's 4.0>3.0>2.0
The patch things are like "filler" arc in anime.
Additionally we don't know how bad 4.1 etc will be.
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>>381524713
>RDM's Vercure scales to INT
>Healer DPS scales to MND
>SMN's Physick still scales to MND
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>>381523030
Kinda sucks to be a MNK this patch
>Chakra Generation is based on RNG based on RNG
>Tackle Mastery is literally garbage
>Fists of Fire inflicts a slow
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>>381524483
>SMN worse than anybody when it has the second highest DPS next to OP SAM
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Ppl were getting pissed on my server because they forgot what its like to get their ass kicked. I loved it
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>Want to watch the story cutscenes. Paying attention perfectly fine.
>Suddenly Urianger shows up and starts speaking at length.

Holy shit. Go the fuck away and leave me alone with your fake ass old English.
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>>381524675
Not even a comparable situation, AST was new there was no one to push away from it, right now you have a large number of healers quitting and a large number of dps coming in, their fucking 2 playerbases and you're honestly delusional if you don't think they'll get buffs
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>>381524349
i wish sch was like in FFXI , even if they got rid of the black vs white because that's rdm, the use of stragems and your book made it feel scholarly instead of just "oh here's a fairy"
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>>381524841
SAM isn't even top dps it's middle of the pack along with SMN
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>>381524675

AST isn't anywhere near as old as SCH though. It's kind of just a bastard mix of the other two healers, with RNG based utility. A job like that should not be the strongest healer unless the player is god. I mean, they don't even have any micro to deal with.
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>>381524841
>It's okay if the class feels like shit as long as it parses high!
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>>381524892
that's not what SSS values say
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>>381524793
I mean, what exactly makes Deathflare and Akh Morn different visually?

It's not like you're using Nidhogg's mad as fuck Akh Morn spam.
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So, who's more insufferable?
RDMs or SAMs?
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>>381524892
Kek
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>>381524624
in ffxi i thought they wielded 1h swords
maybe they will dual wield and all the kiritos will flock to there from sam
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>>381524742
Yo, question for you, is gathering still completely timer based or did they actually get rid of that shit? Crafting in HW was obnoxious as well with how fucked gathering was.
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>>381524928
>SSS
>implying mnk and nin are top right now
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>>381524930
Nothing its just you have this stupid ass giant ghost bahamut floating around you now clogging the screen.
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>>381524713
Just makes me spam ruin faster. Exactly what Yoshida wanted me to do.
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>>381524930
Also don't Deathflare and Akh Morn take separate hotbar icons? What's the point? Since they're literally the same attack but one has higher potency, shouldn't they be consolidated onto the same button like in PVP?
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>>381524934
Still SMN since all they do is bitch.
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>>381524316
The damage comes from mind now. You do the damage without the on and off switch
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>>381524637
SCH's identity is part of what contributed to making it overpowered. The fairy AND their ridiculous fuckloads of utility are what made them irreplaceable in every single raid composition for the past two years.

While I feel that SCH probably got nerfed too hard, they fucking SAID it was coming. Months ago Yoshi noted in an interview that he was turning the nerfbat onto both WAR and SCH because of how disgustingly powerful they both were. As far as playstyle, well, not much can be helped in that regard.

All three healers had part of their playstyles absolutely butchered. All this talk about how boring SCH is now is how AST has been all along. Hell, it's worse for AST because you have ONE DoT now and Malefic III.That's basically it. It's absurdly clear SE and the dev team in general have no idea how to create or balance healers, but SCH being kicked in the face has been a LONG time coming.
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>>381524801
>The patch things are like "filler" arc in anime.

What? No they aren't.
Do you even know what filler is?
Pointless and irrelevant crap that contributes nothing to the story. Most of the MSQ quests in patches between expansions contribute to the advancement of the plot.
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>>381524892
>im-fucking-plying

SAMs can hit 7-8k easily with their openers alone and maintain 4.5-5k from what I've seen.
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>play pvp as dps
>jump on enemy healer
>whole enemy team jumps on me
>play as healer
>enemy dps jumps on me
>my team continues to run around not helping
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>>381525050
Because Squeenix can't fucking decide if they want to make a fun DoT class or make it thematically a Summoner and it pisses both fans off. SMN should've been split from ACN ages ago and a new DoT class pairing with ACN and SMN being a job by itself.
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>Hiens VA is the same as Vaynes from FF12

Fitting
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>expansion guts and kills more classes than it adds
get hyped for pld/pld/ast/ast meta
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>>381524859
You haven't played this game for longer than a patch or two if you think that SE is going to move proactively to protect a class from seeing an exodus of players. If 75% of all Scholars in the game stopped playing the class in the first week of Stormblood's release, they would MAYBE start to take action to make the class more attractive around 4.3 or so. 4.0 will be "Let's wait and see if players get used to it", 4.1 will be "We don't want to make large-scale balance changes in the middle of a raid tier", and 4.2 will be "We've designed this new raid to be marginally more well-suited to SCH's skills in particular".
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>>381525067
Earthly Star is disgustingly beautiful though.

Everything AST does is beautiful and their weapon is fun and it makes me super jealous as a SCH
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>>381525067
>they fucking SAID it was coming
They said a nerf was coming, they didn't say they were effectivley removing the class
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>trying to play paladin below level 60
I just fucking can't, it's too boring to spam one combo endlessly. It makes going into the leveling roulette as PLD so damn tiring.
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Anyone still have that image/link showing the DPS rankings?
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so what dps are drks getting?
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>>381524928
SAM is good but SSS values aren't dps numbers
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>>381525214
Like I said believe what you want, first patch schs are getting buffs and asts are getting put down
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>>381525093
>Braves
>Warrior of darkness
>not filler
kek
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>>381525130
That's not SE fault its the fanbase. They wanted a really summoner now they have it.
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>>381525308
Just like how SE rode in to the rescue to save Paladin in Heavensward when most of them rerolled to Dark Knight or Warrior, right?
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>>381525254
just do a few to get to 61 then spam SB leveling dungeons
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>>381525328
>tfw I lost my perfect DoT DPS because of this
My anger knows no bounds.
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>>381525320

Notice how I said "Most" and not "All", you fucking troglodyte.
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shit expansion for a shit game. atleast the music is pretty good
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>>381524351
It was good but it didn't have the same wow factor as KotR, set-up or surprise wise, and these giant boss battles always end up kind of similar
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>>381525067
To me SCH identity was "healer class with most buttons to push" and it seemed reasonable to have classes vary in how much you can do with it based on skill. In ARR WHM was obviously the easy class with limited potential while SCH took more effort but was potentially more rewarding.

That shit took a downturn in HW and now they just gutted it completely.

And seriously what inbred fuckwit decided removing stance dancing was a good idea?
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>>381525320
>WE'RE THE BAD GUYS FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE
>WE'RE GONNA KILL YOU AND DO A THING
>oh I guess we're not because Hydaelyn got off her lazy crystal ass
>at least minfilia is written out for a while
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>>381524610
Pretty much.

Y'shtola has no character to divide people on. She's bland waifu bait and nothing more.
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>>381525368
Once again not a comparable situation, the playerbase spreading out within a role is one thing, outright quitting is another
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>>381525418
>>at least minfilia is written out for a while
>for a while

This is what worries me.
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>>381524351
It was a good fight but the build up wasn't on the same level as Thordan
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>>381524610
I've not seen anyone say they love her, it's all been hate or tolerate
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>>381525462
Post evidence, not feelings.
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>play the minute early access goes up
>wanna go spearfishing
>find out I have to go through retarded MSQ quests for no good reason to get to ruby sea
>stuck at raubahn for 2 days, trying to get through for hours at a time
>just wanna spearfish
>get through him, so many MSQ to fucking do before ruby sea
>real life shit happens for few days
>finally get to spearfishing today
>it's complete garbage
>underwater is boring, nothing to do except spearfishing
Why did they make it more boring than lvl 1 fishing? There's no real difference between the feeling of catching something and not catching anything. Just press "gig" to poke your stick at some bubbles and there you go.
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>>381525125
>when you learn how to tank as a healer
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>>381525515
You first
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>>381525368
Difference between rerolling other tanks and leaving the role altogether. The issue here isn't that they broke one class in a role but that they completely gutted the role in addition to gutting one of the classes, so when deciding to re-roll from their now shit class most SCH's won't pick a different healer, because those have the same issues; boring as fuck now.
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tfw you are fighting thordan for the first time during week 1 of HW and you go through the part where all the knights are attacking you

Anything else in a boss fight top this feel?
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>>381525067

I would say SCH's identity is more so centered around their shields and shitload of DoTs. With both nerfed, they have nothing to offer that WHM/AST can't do better. SCH will never work as a main healer, so giving them more healing spells (in exhange for less damage) doesn't help them at all, especially while hurting their mana regen.
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>>381525187
I'm starting to think they wanted a reset that would last them through the next expansion, so they don't have to do another revamp/pruning in 2 more years.
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>>381525308
Even if AST got nerf no way are they're buffing SCH they were meant to be nerf since ARR. The best the class would get would be a petty buff.
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>>381525412
The purpose of the cleric stance removal was apparently as an incentive for non DPSing healers to try DPSing every once in a while since they aren't pressured with the healing/DPS swapping thing.

But we all know full well the very people they were trying to appeal to would never DPS even if their lives depended on it.
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>>381523030
>No "true" open world like WOW - instead we get individual areas seperated by laoding screens.
>100% HUD is too small, 150% HUD is too big
>no general chat like in WOW, only PMs
>World- and area maps are too stylised - you have to look twice all the time to see where you want to go. Non-"true"-Open world design makes this even worse.
>Oh, you want to do this totally boring side-fetch-quest? Have fun rading through pages of dialogue instead of just clicking "accept":
>Oh I forgot: There are no dialogues, only monologues
>No 24 hour day/night cycle
I have not left the starting town yet and did not do a single fight but so far it does everything(!) worse than WOW.
The World itself + Characers are better than in WOW - especially the Char. creator.
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>>381525418
>at least minfilia is written out for a while
Considering the shit characters that have replaced her, and the Scions who never left, and the fact that doing menial tasks and pointless running around also never left, Minfilia returning should be the least of anyone's problems.
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>>381525254
PVP.
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>>381525630
There's no way they're letting a large portion of players leave the game either
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>>381525532

>Being this autistic about virtual spearfishing.

Holy shit this is the funniest thing I've ever read in my entire life.
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>want to buy Heavensshill during Steam sale (made the mistake of buying FF14 vanilla on Steam)
>now it's gone from the store
>can only buy 40 bux Stormblood (which includes HW to be fair)


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I just wanna play heavensshill
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>>381525412
SCH and AST both have an even amount of buttons now, due to the relative fuckload of shit now associated with AST's cards, giving them their own micromanaging horseshit to dick around with.
SCH needs tweaks, but for now the community gets a little taste of what AST and WHM had to put up with for a long ass time. AST especially.
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>>381525637
Also funny enough the "or DPS classes can heal the Party?" gets a foot in the fucking mouth because RDM can in fact be an off healer
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what's the best song in stormblood?
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>>381525496
>I've not seen anyone say they love her, it's all been hate or tolerate

I love Lyse.
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>>381525647
>>381525418
how are you going to feel when in a future expansion, for some reason, there is a guy going around having to kill all the scions from 1.0
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>>381525752
BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
ACROSS THE EMERALD DALE
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>>381525093
>>381524801
>Do you even know what filler is?
Pointless and irrelevant crap that contributes nothing to the story.
To be fair, 99% of patch 2.1 - 2.55 content was exactly that, except for the later parts that set HW up and tied into it.
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>>381525720
WHM has never been 100% useless and AST was even accepted into groups for it's utility
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>>381525763
Won't give the slightest shit.

Minfilia wasn't great by any means, but the rest of the Scions (especially the ones left) are absolutely no fucking better. As long as they take Y'shtola out, the useless bitch.
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Help
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This is me and my bitch. Whilst I don't hate every single one of you, I haven't been playing FF14 for over a year. As you can see I'm still a low level noob, but my most played class apparently was gutted to the ground. What would you focus on when playing this character again? I'm thinking about picking up Stormblood and resubbing
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Come and confess your sins to elf Pope.
I've thought about changing to Lalafell for a bit.
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>>381525831

Heavensward was much better about it.
Only the WoD stuff was pointless, and even then it was more so the execution than the simple fact that they exist. The rest of it was either Dragonsong War stuff, or setting up for Stormblood.
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>that SCH thread on reddit
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>>381523030
Probably not all, but its not very good. But to be positive, their patches always bring better content.
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>>381525751
DPS classes always had group support utility skills though, imagine a BRD refusing to use songs because "imma dps class not a healer!!"
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>>381525993
ur a faget
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>>381526051
the fact is though that RDM is a DPS that can actually heal, quite effectively even at least when it comes to single target stuff. Vercure scales to INT. Physick for SMNs does not
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>>381525642
>area maps are too stylised
No they're not.
>Have fun rading through pages of dialogue instead of just clicking "accept"
Lots of quests are like this but I'd kind of leave it up to personal preference for the lore. ARR quests are total fucking shit though.
>No 24 hour day/night cycle
This might not be as nice for immersion, but the day/night cycles are for things like gathering, because it'd be complete ass if you could only gather something at real life 3 am only and things like that.
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>>381526051
Have you met most pug bards?
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>>381525996
I can't fucking pass 2000 dps on my i309 drk
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>>381525496

I like Lyse, she's pretty cool.
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is it just me or are the dungeons and trials in stormblood really fucking fun
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>>381523030
everything other than the new zones and the story is shit
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>>381523680
How can you find SB better than HW? It's pretty insufferable being stuck with lyse and alisaie (who could be a decent character if she wasn't overused), watching everyone make stupid decisions and dealing with zenos, compared to fighting dragons and hanging out with estinien, aymeric and alphie. SB is the first time I've found myself speeding through dialogue because everyone is annoying as shit.
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>>381525708
>aspect of the game is really boring
>"Disliking things? What an autistic faggot"
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>>381523030
Lyse is a cunt
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>>381525916
WHM has skirted under the radar more or less as many groups DO still use them despite them being suboptimal.
AST, however, was garbage and 'meh' and was rarely taken in MOST groups until 3.4. FFlogs show this.
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>>381525993
Get sch to 50 or whatever and then switch to samurai or red Mage since they start at 50
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>Near the end of the MSQ
>Lyse gives an impassioned speech about how she feels like the army can take on anyone right after a major victory. This girl is feeling invincible.
>She looks to you with hopeful eyes, awaiting your reply.
>"We still need to proceed with caution, you know."
>She frowns, her moment deflated, admitting in a roundabout way that maybe she was being slightly retarded.
>Even the tone of her voice gives off an 'I can't believe you just said that to me...Even if you are right.' vibe.

That was more satisfying than it should have been.
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>>381526207
Yes, and the frustrations that results in is why I point it out here, everyone hates pug bards that don't song, and healers that don't dps are no different.

Anyway can someone tell me if they changed gathering at all? Is it still all retarded timers and running the same circles on the clock or have they toned that shit down?
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>>381526374
And SCH won't be taken at all.
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>Finish a story mission
>5 more side quest pop up
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>>381526442
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>get Xelphatol from 50/60 roulette
>get to the second boss
>The SMN (who has been pretty lazy like not even keeping dots up 100% of the time) gets marked for tornadoes
>doesn't move to place them properly, oh well maybe they're just unaware of that
>She just stands there in the tornado
>and dies
>ask what the fuck why would you just stand in a tornado like an idiot
>she gets salty and leaves
>apparently the tank was her cuckboi too and he leaves
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>>381526292
Disliking something is one thing, making an entire post followed with Tsuyu about how excited you were for "digital spearfishing" is what's autistic.
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>>381526442
At least it's probably not as bad as "find some more moogles" right?
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>>381523141
This clueless look on her face makes me want to trick her with my penis
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for brd songs isnt there just like 4 songs and you just click the next one when the last one ends?
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>>381526432
And? Welcome to AST 3.0 to 3.3.
Enjoy your stay.
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>>381526639
Basically. Each has their own kind of combat gimmick in addition to the minor crit increase.

None of them reduce their DPS or anything, and their MP/TP refresh role skills don't do that either.
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>>381526757
Rarely taken is more than never taken
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>>381526569

I'd honestly rather find moogles than do 80 billion quests for a bunch of smelly Mhiggers and Mongolian lizards.
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>SCH crying about not having a raid spot
Good maybe now they will understand the struggle WHM and AST had to go through. No more "My class is well design" crap to protect them from nerfs.
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>tfw OT'd Susanoo for around 1700 as a drk
>burst like 2.4k on fate bosses when I don't have to worry about aggro
>just hit 65

If you are trying then your parser is fucked my parser seems alright when I dps on older content where I have an idea of how much dps I should be doing.
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QUICK
Name the top 5 single boss fights in the game

Be they from trials, dungeons or raids
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>>381523239
KA KA KA!!
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As one of the classes that got shit on for 3+ years I find the Salt hilarious. Wah my class was Godly now it is average, to slightly below average. This just shows you played the class because it was OP not because you enjoyed the class itself.
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>>381523569

Did Lyse actually do anything? I honestly don't remember her doing jack shit besides roughing up Fordola after you beat her to a pulp for 10 minutes.
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>do all sidequests
>still need to grind a bit to reach 70
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>>381526840
Thordan
Nidhogg
Ultima Weapon
Garuda

Don't know can't think of a 5th
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>>381525751
>Tanking a huge pull
>HP dips below 60%
>"Uh oh! The tank is gonna die! Good thing I'm a RDM and can save the day!
>Vercure on tank
>"Excuse Mr. Tank, please do smaller pulls. Our innocent and pure healer can't handle it. It's a good thing I was able to step in and save the day, huh?"
No you dumb motherfucker, the healer was just DPSing! I was gonna get a Benediction or Essential Dignity before dying, idiot!
I'm all for the versatility of classes and providing more to the team as a whole, but healing RDMs have been pissing me the fuck off as of late.
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>level 67
How much more of this shit story do I have to go
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>>381526880

Is it a crime to enjoy being as effective as possible?
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>>381525538

>Both damage reduction CD's plus the barrier
>Laugh for ten seconds while samurai swords bounce off your body
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>>381527043
No but stop bitching and just switch to the FOTM, that is why they are called FoTM they are never permanently effective.
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>>381526996

Depends where in level 67 you are.
If you hit the southern portion of the peaks, you're almost there.
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>>381526291
I don't like alphinaud so maybe thats why.
I found alisaie likeable and I understood lyse's reasoning and her behavior made sense to me. Unlike alphinaud who thinks he is the god king and just uses you as the janitor to clean up primals. Which the lot of alphiaud fans will say "oh but he said he was sorry back in hw" Yeah? What of it. He goes right back to doing the exact same shit there after. He didn't learn his lesson at all he just says he did and somehow that made people like him.

Then we get Hien who is a super bro but to be fair he doesn't show up as much as I'd like. Additionally Zenos is my best friend who just couldn't live together cause the world hates us.
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>>381526885
Still more than Y'shtola's done across two expansions.

Even fucking Thancred did more in SB.
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>>381525751

Wow.
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>>381524801
I don't think that 3.1-3 can be viewed that way, 3.0 didn't have a conclusive ending to the story and 3.1-3 were the rest of that story.
Plus, 3.3 was fucking amazing and as an ending to the Dragonsong War blows 2.0 and 4.0 completely out of the water.
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Did anyone else care a whole lot more about Othard's storyline than Gyr Abania's? Othard was just so much more interesting, and the characters were too. Lyse was easily the worst part of it, and the fact that she was the main focus of the Ala Mhigo arc made it pretty awful.
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>>381526840
Au'Ra Culture battle > Hypertuned Gyrnwachgtj > Susan > Shinryu > scorpion tank
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>>381526840
Shiva
Thordan
Leviathan
Nidhogg
Diabolos
I like trials, getting right to the fight and not fucking around with trash is fun
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>>381527348
I agree with you. Dungeons are just padded trash till you get to the final boss. Trials are a nice change of pace.
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>>381526840
t8
t9
t12
t13
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can someone explain to me how the glamour work ?
do I need to keep the armors in my armory to be able to glamor them later?
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>>381526789
AST was NEVER taken from 3.0 to 3.3. And rarely from 3.3 to 3.4.
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>>381527524
have them in your inventory

The rule is you have to actually be able to equip the piece of equipment you want to glamour, so you can't glamour higher level than you can equip, and you can' glamour tank stuff on healers for example
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>>381523030
>tfw this wasnt included in the Steam sale
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>>381526840
From most to least favorite:

Alexander
Thordan
Shiva
Leviathan
Titan
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How many attempts did you have on the last trial before you got him?

Be honest.
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>>381527524
You use whatever type of prism is required, you have to have them in your armory at the time you glamor, once a piece is glamored you don't need it in your inventory anymore but if you think you'll want to glamor it to a different piece again later then put it in your retainers inventory so you don't lose it
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>>381527305
I cared about Ala Mhigo and the story but it wasn't handled as well as it could have been. It definitely felt rushed compared to much of the Othard stuff.

The final "siege" was pretty pathetic. Like, it really took them this long to gather like 20 black mages and some cannons to shoot down the door? And then one 20-30 minute dungeon and a boss battle and Zenos is a push over?

they spent too much time building up fordola than they did Lyse and the buildup for Zenos didn't have a big enough or satisfying enough payoff. Even the Yanxia Zenos battle was more satisfying.
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>>381527679
3rd pull, first wipe was because everyone got tidal waved off instantly
2nd wipe was just because shitters kept fucking up in the last phase
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>>381527643
Base game or expansion? Base game is on sale all the time so they probably don't care about the summer sale and the xpac came out 3 days ago of course it's not going on sale
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Revolution in HW
>This is how things will change and this is why you stupid peasants should help me
>Almeric, telling normal people that they have same dragon blood as nobles is right thing to do, but too naive
Revolution in the SB
>Lol let's kill everyone and destroy things because this way something new will be born!!!!!
>Lyse, you are natural born leader, Ala mhigo will be fine in your hands when it's all over
And now someone tells me how storywise SB>HW
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this is a lalafell. say something nice about him (me)
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>tfw not good enough for savage fights
>can barely clear ex primals weeks after release

I guess I'll just keep leveling random classes and gathering. Still haven't beaten Susanoo ex.
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>>381526840
Sephirot
Brute Justice
Thordan
Leviathan EX
SLOPPY
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>>381527897
>>>/vg/
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>>381527930
the joys of shitting this one up instead are too intense m8
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>>381526813
Is SCH even actually bad in a raid situation? Their biggest problems seem to be mostly confined to dungeons.
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>>381527757
>>381527305
I agree with both of these posts to an extent, as it pisses me off that the ending was so fucking rushed. What the fuck was that Zenos fight in Ala Mhigo? He destroys us twice and suddenly we can beat him easily?

Aside from that, is anyone else fucking pissed that we had to hear about Ala Mhigo and Doma for ages and now that they're both added to the game, we can't even visit them outside of INSTANCES?
Fuck, from what we've seen of Ala Mhigo, it looks like a really beautiful and well designed city and we can't even access it after all that hard work? Fuck that.
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>>381526560
People get excited for digital woodcutting and digital carpet making for this game, I don't know why you're acting like it's unusual for someone to be excited for spearfishing. It's a new aspect to gathering and it's basically just pressing a single button when it could've been a completely original mechanic for fishing.
I guess you aren't interested in anything but battle content, but just because you don't care doesn't mean this aspect of the expansion isn't a big, shitty disappointment.
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>>381527992
Nobody fucking knows because the fucking raid AREN'T OUT YET. Don't listen to anyone about classes being cucked, they're just memeing faggots
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>>381527623
>>381527687

a bit annoying, thanks
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>>381527305
Of course it was

It was made to appeal to the weaboo audience
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>>381524319
I'll give you Titan, but Leviathan's theme is trash and Shiva's only redeeming factor is the lyrics.
HW on the other hand gives you songs like Heroes Never Die, Ominous Prognisticks, Revenge Twofold, and tons of great dungeon themes (which ARR didn't even have)
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>>381526840
I don't know about the other four spots, but Zenos in The Ala Mhigo dungeon is really cool.
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>>381528304
>he didn't like all of shiva's theme
shit taste detected
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>>381524319
HW has mushroomery and triad theme so I'm going to personally pick that
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Is Summoners entire rotation just tri disaster, fester, ruin, ruin, fester, ruin, ruin, fester, dreadwyrm, tri disaster, ruin, ruin, ruin, ruin, ruin, ruin, ruin, bio 3, deathflare, miasma 3, repeat?
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>Fuck yeah Xeala fighting tournment
>BUT FIRST WE GOTTA EAT

FUCK it's goblin cheese all over again
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>>381528475
Are you not having fun?
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Yay
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>>381528505
the duty is worth the wait
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>>381528475
yeah, except you occasionally summon bahamut and then use his ability instead of dreadwyrming and deathflaring.
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>>381528421
First phase is good but he second one is just generic rock with bad engrish. If they kept the lyrics but tried some other genre of music it would've been much better.
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>>381528612
>generic rock with bad engrish
The english was fine though, and the bad indie rock is what made it good
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HW was more about endless strife and the capacity for forgiveness in war.

SB was more about oppression, power, tyranny, and liberty, the psychology of how atrocity happens
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>>381528505
The tournament is one of best story instance fights in the game.
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>>381523578
It was in the same place as MNK and SMN in 3.4/3.5.

Casters are in an alright spot right now because they have addle, apoc, and manashift. All casters seem pretty equal, with SMN maybe being a bit stronger in terms of raid DPS. But BLM is definitely king of AOE right now in the right circumstances. Double foul, thundercloud, and triple flare is ridiculously good.

The main issue with casters is actually SAM. It's way too good, so if you don't need any of the caster cross class support, then there's no point taking one over SAM because SAM is just doing so much more damage than every other class.
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>>381528505
>going into battle on an empty stomach
>not revelling in feast, song and celebration with your clan on the eve of what could be your final day
>not rutting long into the night, filling fertile wombs with your seed to ensure a legacy should you fall in combat
>not preparing for a death or glory charge that could bring honor and power to your clan
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Which desynth skills should I level?
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>>381523030
have you guys ever heard of someone's permanent ban getting reversed?

I just got a notice that my account has been terminated because of profanity and I really don't want it to end like this, I'm planning to call their phone service and send another appeal in the vain hope that I can play the game again.
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>>381528565

Top weeb

Nice work
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HOW DO I SAM IS THERE A GOOD OPENER YET I SUCK SO BAD
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>>381527128
I found Zenos and Lyse annoying, Zenos was a ff villian done bad and Lyse needed to stop talking, and even yugiri started to get on my nerves for a but with her whole trying to assassinate zenos shit that we just go right along with (which of course get resolved positively despite everyone else telling you it's a terrible idea that will have repercussions). Meanwhile I like Alphie he's had actual character progression, he's was god king during the braves but he's come down since then and his interactions with Estinien through out HW really made the early story and then later on we had Aymeric to bro it up with.

>just uses you as the janitor to clean up primals
Literally everyone does this, alphie is your strategist and semi leader of the scions at this point of course he's going to throw you at primals, hell alisaie does the same thing during SB
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>>381529167
Lol what did you say? Guy in my FC flooded a zurvan ex run party chat with NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER and only got a 5 day suspension.
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>>381528791
proof?
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Is WAR even worth playing? I got it to 70 and I'm sad I can't stance dance anymore.
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>>381529167
Profanity shouldn't be a bannable offense, if you're taking the profanity filter its your own goddamn fault for opening yourself up to such things.
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>>381529386
Ask yourself is it PLD and you'll get your answer
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>>381529385
They don't have any everyone is basing shit of SSS numbers while actual parses have SAM coming in the middle
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Why do male miq'ote have such a hittable face ?
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>>381529268
SAM is literally "build your marks for a one second burst"
just use your 3 combos then Kaiten your iaijustsu
shinten if you're over 80 kenki

SAM might be one of the most braindead job of all time
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>>381526880

But I'm still playing SCH, even though I think it's literally the weakest job in the game right now. It's the only job I have at level 60 and the only one I've truly enjoyed since I started this game 2 years ago. I mained bow on MHFU and and Freedom 2, so being underpowered and "low tier" isn't enough to make me jump ship. That said, I still wouldn't mind some buffs, mainly for SCH's dps (particularly AoE and at least one more DoT) and Aetherflow/Energy Drain.

I'm not asking to be the strongest, because I don't care about stuff like that. I would like to see the job get its synergy back. Right now it feels incredibly clunky and counter-intuitive.
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>>381529592
t. MNK
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>>381529591
You're jealous of their harems
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>>381525996
I like to mess around with the character creation a bit too much. I have tons of appearance data saved of stupid shit like trying to make other characters from other things in it, to dumb challenges for myself like try to make a non angry looking Au Ra male.
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>>381529341
>>381529421
I sent a joking mail to my friend of a few lyrics from a shitty moonman video but replacing "moonman moonman" with "raubahn raubahn"

He realizes it's a joke and laughed about it. I realize now that I still violated the ToS and deserved it. it sucks because I haven't actually said that kind of shit to other players in the game since I was warned 3 years ago.

I just wanna play the game again I'd gladly become the nicest person in the game ever helping every single player if I could have my account back again
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>>381523239
I love his cheerful nature
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>get to Susano normal
>people run away from me when I have the stack marker
>people don't know what rock jails are
>OT isn't grabbing orbs in the giant phase
>three people stand in the big red ult line and get instagibbed

Been a while since I've had to deal with DF shitters, I was much angrier than usual about it. I can only imagine the fun times ahead for the final boss.
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>>381524624
>what weapon will they use

Gee i dont know, Sabers? Like they usually do?

That being said, i would prefer MRP (Morpher) since i think using souls as weapons is way cooler
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>>381523239
Absolutely not, but he's a cool guy regardless
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>>381529682
>tfw have tons of waifu appearances saved
>don't want to fantasia to any of them because I'm too attached to my current
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>>381529592
SAM is like playing a fuckin rubix cube to do dps, too much work and effort lol its hard and i cant be fucked to play it. i got fel cleave i don't have to give a shit about pussy katana shit
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>>381529268
Combo for your buffs
Combo for your dot
Combo to build Kenki
*unsheath katana* for maximum dmg
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>>381529815
>too much work and effort lol its hard
How is anyone this low iq?
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>>381528505
The tournament was worth it though.
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>>381529708
It's not like they scan for it; someone must have reported it. My ls is constantly flooded with shit like that and nobody gets banned. Someone snitched on you mate; your "buddy"?

>mooncat mooncat can't you see
>ala mhiggers need to hang from trees
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>>381529592
>"SAM might be one of the most braindead job of all time"
>proceeds to give shit advices, proving he doesn't even understand the class
Really make you think...
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>>381529884
Come on, man. Read the post.

>i got fel cleave
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>>381529268
Meikyo > Yukikaze > Gekko > Kasha > Hagakure + Guren > Kasha Combo + Shinten > Gekko Combo + Shinten > Yukikaze > Kaiten > Midare > Kasha > Kaiten > Higanbana etc etc

my shinten might be a bit off. Fuck Momo and his gay ass opener.
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>>381529728
Just wait until you reach Extreme. 9/10 farm groups can't even get the fucking clouds right.
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>Job I play is apparently below average now
>friends progressing through content faster than I am
Hah hah everytime.
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>>381529993
>Kaiten+Higanbana
For someone saying someone elses Opener is gay you sure have no idea how your own skills work.
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>>381529728
>you will have to deal with the jump potion crowd soon
fun times ahead
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>>381529809
I'm in the same boat as you except my current one I'm attached too isn't very attractive but I just can't let her go.
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>>381530053
Kaiten applies to the dot you nigger it's been confirmed.
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>>381529728

>Getting angry over video games
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>>381529268
>IS THERE A GOOD OPENER YET
Kasha combo > kaiten higanbana > shisui > hagakure >guren > regular rotation
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>Goldsmithing job quest is about teaching Mhiggers not to be Mhiggers anymore

Oh boy this is gonna end poorly. On the plus side being placed into the position of teacher in the plot has really got me wanting to continue on, this is pretty unique for a crafting plot.
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At what point should I prioritize Bane over painflare?
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>>381529950
yes, the 50% damage bonus has nothing to do with the only 850 potency attack you have, my bad, you're supposed to use it on the fuga

same thing with the buff, I was mistaken, you open a fight with the meikyo
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How did summoner become the third strongest job when their main way to attack is 100-200 potency?
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>>381530298
Dots and a pet
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>tfw you thought you were gonna get locked in the shed for ANOTHER 5 years but your class is better than its ever been
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>>381530229
You have plenty of rotations shared above where kaiten is used with other skills
Just accept you're a salty monk anon
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>>381529948
my friend's clean, I know 100% that he wouldn't do something like that.

I was thinking that it was possible I may have been reported for something else (probably a false report from some idiot) and the GM had to check my logs anyway and noticed that

I'm going to try and appeal again tomorrow. I have to hope, I have to try. I don't wanna lose this game. There must be something I can do.
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>>381530183
That sounds more fun compared to gathering shit for goblin cosplayers to make a suit of armor.
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>>381530229
>what is burst damage.

Stop thinking about Meikyo like some sort of set up fodder ability. Use it on cooldown you stupid fuck It gives you FREE 400 POTENCY ABILITIES. Just fucking spam it, there's literally no reason to hold it because you

a. Get Kenki
b. It has a short as fuck cooldown.
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>>381530343
What class is that?
Cause only class that was actually nerfed was scholar everyone else is better than they were before but just by varing amounts.
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Why is Plenary Indulgence so shit?

>20% RNG to get it to work
>triggered off Cure and Cure 2
>30 seconds to use it
>1 stack is worse than Cure
>3 stacks worse than Cure 2

Why
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>>381530229
>you open a fight with the meikyo
You open a fight with your dot dumbass
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>>381526840
T9
T7
A3s
Thordan ex
Titan ex
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>>381530630
No you don't you stupid fuck, you open with Meikyo, meikyo into guren is a shitton more potency from whatever you get from the dot.
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>using aetherflow before entering dreadwyrm eats your aether

fuck you yoshida
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>>381530692
You kaiten dot then guren, you're purposely missing ticks if you don't
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>>381530298
>SMNs turn out to have the highest caster DPS
>will still continue to scream and cry because they are hands down the pissiest and most entitled playerbase of all
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>>381530630
it was a shitpost, read it again
>>381530692
it's literally the mindset of someone who ask a a 20$ bonus once instead of 5$ wage increase, missing +50% damage on the longest dot of the game is plain madness
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>>381530481
WHM. literally everyone was either laughing at us or pitying us after the announcement and for 5 years running we were the sub optimum healer that no one wanted to bring.
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>>381530772
The missed ticks don't account for the time wasted by holding guren and meikyo, putting these two on cooldown is a bigger dps gain than higanbana ticks. You should Kaiten Midare THEN Kaiten dot. This also lets you get in three extra shintens.
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>>381530493
It's pretty fucking shit. And when there is another WHM in the party you can't tell which confession stacks are yours.
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>>381530936
>The missed ticks don't account for the time wasted by holding guren and meikyo
Alright so you're just shitposting
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>>381529632
>It's the only job I have at level 60 and the only one I've truly enjoyed
Gee, maybe because it's the only one you've played at level cap?
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>>381527679
Two vote abandons and three wipes on my third party. I unequip my gear to get below ilvl 120 before i que for trials now.
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>>381530982
Why don't you try it out yourself before you decide to shitpost. I've tried Momo's opener. Mine parses the same while having a bigger burst in the opener.

I think people are really overvaluing the dot when compared to having meikyo and guren up quicker. Especially for lakshmi which won't even see the dot getting to the boss until the two adds are dead.
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>>381527679
2nd pull. the paladin in the party put a mark on the ground at the start of the fight, and we went to it whenever we werent sure what to do. seemed to work pretty well.
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>>381531131
sure thing shitposter-kun
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>tank damage seems pretty low
>equip a STR ring
>goes up more than actual tank gear
ffs, why did they think going back to this was a good idea?
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>>381527679
Just did it with friends and they managed to clear it on the 2nd try,
But I did it when no one knew the mechancis still so it took me around 7 tries. First group failed entirely.
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>>381531231
I mean you could just say you've never done an ex before lol. You won't get your dot out on lakshmi in time with raid buffs until the adds or dead.

Not to mention if susano marks you and you're forced to disengage the entire thing falls apart.
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>>381531236
It's a dps expension you dingus, so accept it and move to dps so we can have 80 min queues to do a dungeon. Thanks.
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Holmgang is the gayest shit in PvP, fuck my gay ass.
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>>381530936
GEE GUY WHAT'S A HIGHER PRIORITY, A 1410 DAMAGE DOT OR A 800 DAMAGE OGCD

Never mind that opening with Meikyo is absolutely dicking your damage because you don't get any of the buffs or debuffs.


Actually speaking of that while I was leveling it actually seemed like Yukikaze affected damage more than Jinpu, which wasn't what I expected. But I was only looking at Midare numbers on zone mobs really.
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jumped from my 70 SCH to BRD after i couldnt take it how shitty this job plays now. grinding potd on the bard for a day now since i had to start at level 1. im not regretting it a single bit this class is so much more fun. it plays so well its incredible. also i can finally see my weapon instead of a stupid book. all these cool looking bows.
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>>381531459
GEE GUY HAVING 400 + 400 + 800 is more than a shitty dot. WOW. WHAT IS MATH?
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Astrologian Changes in 3.1

Nocturnal Stance - *New Ability* Helios The Fairy King - Summon a fairy companion.

Embrace - 350 potency Heal.
Rouse the Troops - Gives party 5% increase damaged for 30 seconds 120 second cooldown
King's Guard - Gives party 5% damage reduction for 30 seconds 120 second cooldown

Diurnal Stance - *New Mechanic* Rose Pedals
When casting Malefic gain a stacking buff that increases the potency of your next heal by 100/200/300

When casting Benefic, Benefic II, or Aspected Benefic gain a stacking buff that increases the potency of your next heal by 100/200/300
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>>381530298
>How did summoner become the third strongest job
What's it like living in the clouds?
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>>381530298
Because they are single target dps monsters.
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When will Nanamo become relevant again? I miss her.
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>Doing Feast because I want the 200 win mount
>Playing healer because no one else fucking will
>Every single Samurai player is retarded
>Constantly running into the middle of enemy groups away from everyone else
>Always running and hiding from the healer's LoS when the take damage
>Generally just spend the whole match dying
Fuck these shitters
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>>381531818
She shows up to announce a tournament in the PLD questline
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Best way to farm Poetics? Is frontlines or feast faster for poetics?
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>>381531818
she says sorry and says she wants to donate money from lolrito (aka blood money) to the rising braves

you can either accept or say "lol its ok"

tfw i accepted it
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>>381531990
Good work taking that money, Tataru really needed more cash to waste on frivolous outfits for everyone.
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What did she mean by this?
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>>381532141
bull testicles are a delicacy in some lands
A hungry fox gets hungry when looking at food
People get hungry when they see food espically when starving
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>>381532141
The fox confuses the bulls testicles for meat/prey due to it being starving and hungry. It will attack the testicles not knowing they're attached to a bull and being driven away.

Essentially eat so you don't get dazed and fucked up.
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>>381531887
They'd probably be dying even if they were good sam is shit in pvp high damage but no way to lock people down to do your laijutsu skills and their only movement skill costs way to much kenki for its cooldown time so once they're committed they're fucked
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>>381532141
I want to impregnate Cirina
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>>381524472
PvP is 95% DPS just fucking around for easy EXP. There needs to be huge EXP bonuses for winning, doing the best in X category, and getting kills/hitting the objective/healing the team
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>>381532336
>tfw you could just threaten the old lady and have her tell cirnia the eldergods said you had to have sex

It'd be a good time
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>>381532336

Sorry. She's not interested in you. Only Hien will do.
You can catch Yugiri off the rebound though, once she realizes she's lost Hien to some filthy plainsdweller, she'll probably fall to despair and accept just about anything to fill the gigantic void in her heart, assuming she doesn't sudoku.
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>>381531586
Not something you can do, clearly.

>>381532448
I'm loathe to have a big emphasis on winning in FL because FL is such a clusterfuck. But 0 damage AFK shouldn't be getting the EXP someone doing 200,000 combined damage is.
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>>381530983

I've played enough of the others, and played with/against them, to know what I like the most.
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>>381532643
fuck off, let me auto-run to 70, if you want serious play, go in 4v4
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https://youtu.be/mmbRJMuObns
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>>381532643
People need to get good somehow. When two tanks and an AST can clean house regularly there is a major problem with the active playerbase. It's become even more braindead than low level dungeons without any reward for taking the time to actually try.
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>get Terror in Ramuh Hard
>mark myself
>people still run away from me and leave me frozen for the entire timer
Nobody even knows that mechanic anymore do they
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>>381531664
Still looks pretty weak. Give them Fell Cleave and then we'll talk.
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>>381532756
No you fuck off, if you aren't going to contribute or try go do some FATEs of PoTD where you belong.
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>>381532834
make me
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>>381532475
>You can catch Yugiri off the rebound though
Yugiri is interested in some random shinobi we never see though
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>>381532475
We all know Hien is for Gosetsu only
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>>381533026
Poor WoL can't catch a break, all the waifus are taken or interested in other people.
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>>381532643
Makes something else give comparable exp and afkers would fuck off, it's the dev teams fault for being such hacks and making leveling as painful as possible
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>>381533026
False
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>>381533101
pretty sure we had Haurchefant while waiting for HW
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>>381533101
That's because SE assume you already have RL waifus to adventure with and get married in game.
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>>381533118
>making leveling as painful as possible
Leveling XIV is one of the most fucking easy experiences in the genre.
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Is the Susano primal weapon the best weapon currently?
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>>381533147
Her parents literally tell you that the reason she left is because some boy she met in yanxia, and it's not hein because she tell you herself she didn't meet him gotetsu until after her shinobi training
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>>381533248
Watching paint dry is also easy but after a bit it gets unbearable
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I HATE THE FUCKING ACCENTS! FUCKING HATE! HATE! THERE IS NO BRITAIN! THERE IS NO BRITAIN! FUCK GoT! Those accents are the Dark Souls of GoTs! FUCK! No seriously, my hope was that fantasy Japan was going to see us get away from the fucking accents but NOOOOOOO!
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>>381533291
>doing something that's unbearable is easy
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>>381523030
Square filled the whole game with means to milk as much money out of people as possible. It was shit long before Stormblood.
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>literally the only instances I can get into in less than 30 minutes are PVP
>want to switch to tanking but most tanking I've done is ripping hate from lazy tanks and tanking it until I die or they get their shit together
How is tanking? Is it as difficult as I've built it up into thinking it is? My biggest worry is not being sure if I'll be able to hold aoe aggro and which cooldowns to pop during boss fights. I'd be going PLD if that changes anything, I love that holy warrior aesthetic.
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>>381533393
Yeah a monthly sub and a few optional items most of which were previous holiday items sure is milking you
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How bad is SMNs aoe after the bane change?
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>>381533375
its not too late to go full weeb
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>>381533375
What accents?
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I enjoyed the story and the little journey to level 70 but o man, post game is horse shit and baby tier casual mode.

I've always liked FFXIV. They literally give you the chance to play their new expansion for a week for free thanks to early access codes.

Serious question, how do they expect new/old people to stay when there's close to zero longevity?
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>>381533413
tanking is easy as shit PLD is the most standard one right now. coincidentally it's also the best one
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>>381533101
my WoL's husbando died. feels bad.
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>>381533413
It's piss easy, you're just more likely to cause dungeon wipes if you don't know mechanics.

OTing most 8 and 24 man casual content is the absolute fucking easiest thing in the game because you're just a low effort DPS that doesn't die to AoEs.
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>>381533657
>I've always liked FFXIV
You haven't liked it for long if you don't understand the patch cycle
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>>381533264
>Her parents literally tell you that the reason she left is because some boy she met in yanxia,

Who's almost assuredly dead by this point.
Besides, even if she left because of some boy back when she was a little girl, it's clear as day that she's long since over that kid and moved on to Hien years after the fact.
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>>381533657
to be fair the raid has been held off for a week to give people time to get through the MSQ without feeling pressured.
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>>381533413
No, it's not. You're fundamentally a huge punching bag that turns enemies away from your friends. Do dungeons to learn the basics and go from there. It's only hard at the early levels, but even then, just toss in some extra flashes here and there, and you'll be golden. Once you get your tank stance, holding aggro is no problem, and now that PLD actually gets an AoE attack, your life will be even easier. Tanking has a lot of prima facie responsibility which makes it look hard, but once you start doing it, it's not hard. Of course, it gets hard in a raid environment, but everything is.
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>>381524624
All the spells and abilities are learned from job quests.
ALL of them.
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>>381533413
Play pld or drk and it's braindead easy, the only time you'll have any sort of trouble is as gld before you unlock tanking stance, and with drk you don't even have to worry about that you have the most spammable aoe in the game which glues shit to you
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>>381531887
i played a melee for the first time today in pvp, and it's fucking awful.

sure you shit out damage but you basically have no defensives and no way to CC/snare/slow people. How the fuck can people enjoy playing this in pvp?
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>>381524624
They shouldn't even be in the game.
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>>381533808
They should be learned from the hunting log
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why did papalymo have to die? He really needs to keep his hoe lyse in line.
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>>381533895
>How the fuck can people enjoy playing this in pvp?
They don't there's a reason pvp was dead before the xpac when it wasn't a way to level
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>>381533717
I can't pay for a game that will give me a dungeon and a trial once every 3-6 months, that's retarded.
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>>381534021
Then why are you even here? It's clear sub mmo aren't for you
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>>381531887
SAM totally sucks but it did give me the best pvp feeling ever.
>at the base with a couple of others
>getting zerg rushed by 5 mael
>some aoe lb happen and most of them are at low health
>psh nothin personel right through all of them, killing them all
Meanwhile my old favorite class MNK plays like a braindead moron, hits like a wet noodle, and falls apart like wet tissue paper. I'm so mad at how fucking awful MNK was treated this expansion in every aspect.
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>>381533969

I kind of hope that something comes along in one of the story patches that just really deflates her optimism a bit.
Like some Ala Mhigans that don't like the direction she's taking things, because she's a naive and incompetent bimbo, and form their own little pocket resistances to counter her way of things so she feels internal conflict and self-doubt over being compared to the very Garleans she fought to expel.

Or maybe, idk, Midgardsormr can show up and tell her to eat a bag of dicks or something, but say it all fancy like he usually does.
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>3 more months until AST nerf and SCH buff
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>>381534107
So you're saying it's fine to have shit post game on release and patch in two activities that are don in a week every 3-6 months?

The fuck is wrong with you, no wonder MMOs went downhill
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>>381524624
Who cares unless it's a tank or a healer. I'm tired of DPS shitters being fucking vermin begging for a party. Give me Beastmaster, Time Mage, Chemist, or Mystic Knight
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>>381534252
>downhill
There was never a mmo with constant content release stop shitposting, you know the genre isn't for you and are just looking for (you)s
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>>381533101
>Actually worrying about WoL's relationship options

You can marry any fellow adventurer you want assuming they consent, WoL is drowning in options

Besides, not a single ally you have can pull the weight that you do, they're all poor genetic stock anyway
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>>381534107
I subbed Legion for 2 months on release due new systems like Mythic+ and several raid tiers. FFXIV developers are lazy as fuck and we're talking about Blizzard here.

>>381534302
The point is how can you justify paying a sub for so long when you're not doing shit in the game and there's nothing to do. Try not defending the game blindly for its obvious flaws.
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Tataru or Krile?
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>>381527679
A whole 60 minute failure, then the second time got in with 7 more people who were all first timers, we cleared it second try.

It really seems to just come down to having one good healer, one good tank, and one good DPS. It'll eventually get done like that.
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>>381534258
>blu is released as dps with no tank or healer released
>we don't expect this to affect queue times
>please understand
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>>381534410
Krile is less insufferable. she also sexier
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>>381533657
To be fair, theres a lot of shit i want to do, and have yet to have done yet, levelling crafters/gathers/other classes, for one, but on top of that i'd like to eventually get a T9 race chocobo and the field commanders coat

But anyhow, i dont know if i could handle them releasing more shit right now
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>>381534374
>due new systems like Mythic+ and several raid tiers
None of which were in game on release day, and using wow is a horrible example considering how many months there typically are between patches

>>381534374
>there's nothing to do
There's plenty to do you realize there's more than mindlessly raiding right? Fuck off back to your wow rng loot fest if you don't like this game, no ones forcing you to sub or cares if you do
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>>381534107
>sub mmo
aren't there only like two of the out there? FF and WoW? everything else died, not much to choose from
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>>381534410
tataru is literally the only choice here
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Getting 11ks bloodspillers feel so damn good. I didn't get shit until i equipped a 270 STR ring, if that really makes the difference then that's fucking stupid.
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>Switch to SCH a few weeks before Stormblood
>Love it. decide to main it
>Most fun I've had with a job so far, even though I always tank. The most enjoyable job to me despite finding most of the jobs boring compared to other MMOs
>Get to 60 and get pretty much fully geared
>Go to Japan for two weeks
>Come back excited to see the new expansion
>Everyone tells me Scholar is now a kuso-job, bottom tier piece of shit

What the FUCK do I do now?
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>>381534561
Anon the fact that he's using legion as an example should let you know he's shitposting for easy responses
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>>381534646
I really fucking hate the change that they made to restrict STR rings to dps classes now.

like what the fuck was the point of that? seems like squeenix literally wants us to all play the same way or some shit.
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>>381534258
>Be DPS
>Accept that to play the most popular role means long wait times and such
>Always get grouped together with obnoxious shitters
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>>381533895
Sometimes you burst someone and don't feel awful. Also good ice damage I guess. Before SB they were almost just LB drones.

>>381534218
SAM would be so much better to play if they just gave you some kenki meter off spawn so you don't have to run around spamming Enpi on anything you can before you can fight properly.
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>>381534575
>None of which were in game on release day,
It was in the game but it was gated like raids, it was something to look forward to that wasn't raiding. Legion had literally more than double the content Stormblood has.

It's funny you're writing there's plenty to do more than mindless raiding yet the only content FF has that is coming for MONTHS is raiding.
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>>381534597
In the west yeah, most games have died and been replaced with f2p since it's easier to shit out minimal content then restrict it and rake in money on people paying more than they would on a sub mmo in microtransactions
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>>381534686
>All those shitter tanks in early 3.0 who wore STR accessories but never used cooldowns and generally couldn't tank for shit
I don't want to go back
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>>381533413
The hardest part about tanking is finding a way to know all content before anyone and not getting bored to death playing it

Tanking was okay 3.0 all they had to do was fix pld.
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>>381534646
>revert vit affecting damage
>and make it impossible to equip str accessories
If they wanted to force this tenacity meme, tanks attack power should be affected by vit and tenacity, not fucking str and tenacity.
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>>381531452
Thats what a Holmgang is. Think your bitch ass can escape a duel against a warrior? Tough luck bitch. Enjoy getting raped.

Its great to fuck people with battle fever in their ass.
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>>381534575
>None of which were in game on release day
you mean just like FFXIV?

>There's plenty to do you realize there's more than mindlessly raiding right?
you mean grinding classes in potd and pvp? sure is top tier content right there

please name content original to SB that isn't grinding for gear or gated months ahead
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>>381534597
>tfw been paying EQ sub for 16 years
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>>381534936
>it's ok when wow locks content until after release
>when xiv does it it's a shit game
okay shitposter
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>>381534941
>there are people who still play eq
why?
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>>381534668
But Legion had way more content than Stormblood, what are you trying to say? Yes it had shitty game design but no other expansion has had that much content.
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for how shit they are in pve, DRK are actually fucking dank as fuck in pvp.

>stroll into a middle of a fight with no fucks given
>has self-sustain, shielding that can be applied to party members getting focused
>get over here and taste the abyss, bitch
>1v1 any cock sucking DPS easily
>protect healers so they slobber all over your cock after the battle
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>>381535096
And who cares about shovelware content? What exactly are you trying to prove? If you don't like the game just leave none of the people still enjoying it will miss you.
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>>381534837
MUH
FELL
CLEAVES
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>>381534646
>>381534686
>>381534912
I'd say it's pretty clear that SE don't want tanks to focus on damage as much.
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>>381523030
I can't play in it because it's a story driven MMORPG, where 422 MQs in my way to it.
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Lay it on me lads, how fucking bad is tenacity? I'm using 3 270 str accessories, but God damn everything feels so squishy. Doesn't help with the MP reduction on Blood Price. Otherwise everything's been pretty fucking smooth.

If they just changed the effect of parry but the scaling remained the same, that's fucking retarded.
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>>381535007
The anon above wrote that raiding wasn't the only thing, yet raiding in FF is the only big and social activity to do post game and it's locked.

WoW gates raids, dungeons, story campaigns, new systems like mythic+ and raid bosses. You know, options outside raiding.
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>>381535254
so now we literally just sit there to take hits to the face with our rotation having no bearing on the fight whatsoever

neat
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>>381525067

I found AST fun back in HW. The cards pissed me off at first, but the way all of its skills work together is pretty fun and smooth. I haven't touched it since SB, but with Cleric Stance reworked I imagine that some of the fun factor is now gone.
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>>381535136
It's frustrating that whenever I see "DRK" I may as well just fuck off.
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>>381535332
oh you can still contribute damage, just not over half of a standard dps.
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>>381535208
>FF gates raiding
>o shit, this is dope
>wow gates raiding
>fuck shovelware, garbage, piss

>>381535007
literally to you but vice versa
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>>381523030
side quests are a whole FUCK lot better than HW
I'm enjoying them (about to enter azim steppe)

samurai is also very fun to play and very stylish
I look forward to completing the MSQ and ex primals so I can level red mage and see how fun that is
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>>381535273
DRK is very squishy in this expac, not sure what to attribute it to. I thought it was just dark dance but something else has changed that just makes us feel weaker in general.
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is it just me or is the menagerie nin dummy over tuned as fuck, pretty much impossible at 290. much less 280 which is the actual trial level.
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>>381535273
>I'm using 3 270 str accessories
Then don't complain about being squishy
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>>381535332
WAR/DRK/PLD pull right now around 2k damage meanwhile DPS are shitting out twice as much damage. In HW they barely did 500 more DPS than an offtank
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>>381524892
Look at this fucking retard, haha holy fucking shit.
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>>381535403
>>o shit, this is dope
Nowhere did I even imply this fuck off shitposter, your not going to convince anyone to sub to wow or unsub from xiv
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>>381534657

Most switch to another job, but if you're stubborn like me you'll stick with it to the end. Just think of how much better we'll be when we eventually get buffed.
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>>381526607
So rape basically
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>>381535425
I honestly think it's mostly the latter Blood Price change, with it giving less MP, so DAAD is fucking slow as hell now compared to back then.

>>381535487
>implying Vit gives any defense modifiers
Holding aggro and doing damage is much easier with STR accessories.
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>>381535425
Literally everyone is squishy. Hell trash mobs in dungeons are more dangerous than the actual bosses.
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>>381535539
>takes sss numbers as word of god
>calls others retard
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>>381535504
I miss tanks doing 300DPS being an accomplishment
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>>381533258
Yes
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>>381535572
I think FFXIV is doing a pretty good job in letting go of majority of their new and returning subs when they reach level 70.

It's almost as if FFXIV is repeating that WoW does.
>release an expansion
>people flock
>reach max level
>everyone leaves
You're delusional if you think people are going to play FF for more than a month when there's only raiding and 2 dungeons.
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>>381535504
that's fine and all, I don't have a problem with that. it just feels like our rotation has been casualized to the point where you hit 1-2-3 and that's it folks. No room for experimenting for pushing out a few more points of dps, no meaningful rotation choices to make, etc.

I get tanks are supposed to have a simpler rotation than dps but would it kill them to give us some more interactivity? Literally feels like we're playing a level 30 dps class with enmity added to our actions
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Why did they have to unfuck BRD and make RDM so easy to pick up
Now I don't even have a raid advantage due to scarcity of rDPS
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cool game
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>>381535609
jesus fuck, you are mad. shit i would be too
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>>381535765
go the fuck back to twitch you faggot
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>>381535731
Sure man believe what you want, no one is going to convince you otherwise you're clearly too impaled on blizzards cock, it's not like the game did fine during heavensward and it's not like it has a casual community that doesn't care about chasing raids. But sure whatever the game will be dead in a month, thanks for the warning I'm sure the dev team is reading and will take it to heart.
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>>381535737
You are right. I felt the same, the most complex part of a tank is his opener right now. WAR is basically rotating your three vombos while kerping Upheaval on CD until you can do the odd Inner Release with 6 Fell Cleaves.
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>>381535791
>look at pf
>it's all 2 dps looking for tanks or healers
I laugh every time
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>>381535851
mad about what? I'm just pointing out you're an actual retard
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>>381535765
>my face when I never even unlocked THM and ACN and get given RDM at level 50
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>>381524892
He says as literally all evidence shows SAM outperforming other jobs already when people haven't even figured out how to optimize it yet
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>>381535607
>castrum Abania
>healer casts regen as new mobs show up
>just as I flash them the healer takes an AA from all of them and dies instantly
>keep myself alive with clemency but occasionally lose aggro and the dps eventually die.
>I live through the ordeal.
I'll never talk shit about clemency again.
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>>381535876
*combos
*upheaval
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>>381535957
SSS is useless, go look at any actual groups parse
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>>381535994
You mean the ones where SAM is usually in the lead unless it's played by a shit player?
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So can we agree that chain of promathia and rise of zilart are better expansions than HW and SB?
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>>381535962
>HE TALKED SHIT ABOUT CLEMENCY EVER
My boy you need to back up, aside from the full heal that WHM can get it's one of the strongest heals in the game. I can consistently get 17k crit heals with it.
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>>381535868
There's no need to convince, you're the delusional retard who can't see history repeating.

Everything you're doing is "blah blach blizzard's cock blah blah" "FF is special, it's completely new from HW"

The game did NOT do fine during Heavensward, what the fuck are you saying? 3.0 to 3.1 was HORRIBLE for the game and the game lost tons of players.
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>>381535994
I did and they are kings.
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>>381536073
>3.0 to 3.1 was HORRIBLE for the game and the game lost tons of players.
Sure it did man convince yourself of that I'm sure it helps to lube up your ass.
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>>381535868
>the game did fine during heavensward
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>>381536034
>tfw soon i will stop playing XIV and return to XI

will the cycle ever stop?
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I haven't tried SAM yet. How vulnerable do they look to mechanics? Does downtime fuck them as badly as it did MNK in Heavensward?
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>>381536041
It's a good heal but i originally thought it useless because of the cast time and that it really only works when shit goes wrong but I've found it pretty useful for SB.
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>>381536149
He's right you know. The drought until we finally got some new content was horrible and made a lot of people leave.
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>>381536149
Just
LOL
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I've seen both RDM do top dps by large margins and SAM do top dps by large margins.
By the same merit I've seen both of them do less damage then tanks at times. The classes are objectively good and SAM is definitely a top tier class, it's already beating out damage of classes like summoner and ninja, it's just whether RDM or SAM are on top.

Source: ACT farming setsuno ex throughout the day with many different groups
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>everyone says SAM is king dicker
>finally update ACT before running Abania
>get completely dicked by an RDM on nearly every encounter
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>>381536191
> downtime
What downtime could fuck a SAM. They dont even have any buffs they need to uphold
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>>381536231
>>381536236
Surely you have numbers to back up this shitposting
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>>381536182
There's nothing to do in that game either
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>>381536267
Git gud
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>>381535994

Post some then
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>>381523030
How easy is it to hunt for onii-chans and onee-chans as a lalafell?
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I heard PLD is fairly fun now (?!?!!!) while DRK is still boring as before while WAR still is the most fun tank mechanics wise.

Is this true?
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>>381536248
RDM is behind BLM and SMN on dummy parses but SMN can get fucked over by maintenance and BLM... BLM can't really get fucked over unless BLM is shit
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>>381536267
try this opener. i always pull ahead using this atm
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>>381535504
>In HW they barely did 500 more DPS than an offtank

By which you mean, 'the lowest-DPS DPS job comfortably did more than 500 DPS more than the highest-DPS tank'.

Tanks could do about 65-75% the damage of a DPS in Heavensward, which is appropriate; it rewards tanks properly for learning to play well, without ever risking a situation where you'd take a tank in an actual DPS spot for any reason other than desperation or for fun.

In Stormblood it's barely more than 50%, and the gap is going to widen as DPS get upgrades to all equipment slots and tanks will basically finish 4.5 with the same shit they have right now. It's really fucked up and disincentivizes actually trying to be a good tank.
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>>381536149
You just proved you're exactly as defensive and blind as Blizzard fans with that post.
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>>381536191
There is no downtime, they have 2 directionals and 2 abilities with short cast times, they should be fine
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>>381535590
>when we eventually get buffed.
:^)
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>>381536332
he can't
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>>381536359
I heard DRK is fun at level 70 but below that it's awful. can't really confirm that though. PLD is great, still fairly simple but if you wanted to be a holy knight now's the time.
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>>381536410
In what way? He's done nothing but shitpost about how the game is shit and how it's dying with nothing to back it up
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Why do people bitch about dps queue times instead of just leveling up a tank for instant queues? There's still plenty of room for dps in hard content and you can just grind dungeons on your tank to gear your dps.
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>>381534657
Level something else like literally every other SCH
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>>381536379
You cant even be a good tank since the rotation is so simple you cant even optimize it. At least for WAR that is.
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>>381536369
Is it worth it to put the dot on trash mobs in dungeon ?
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>>381536191
Only thing that fucks up SAM is that its rotation is technically really long so it can be hard to fit everything back in, but it has lots of leeway in its buff timers and its resources don't deplete.
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>>381536494
>why don't people just play a role they don't want to play
I wonder anon
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>>381536552
no. i never had to, i just midare. the mobs die too fast for the 60 sec dot to even matter.
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>>381536552
>in dungeon
no, especially with every tank suddenly tying to do big dick speed run pulls all of a sudden
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>>381536469
can confirm it's still the same shit at level 70. black blood seems to be the most shoe-horned in mechanic in SB and the action gutting/nerfs on our important skills makes this job boring as shit.

can't speak for the other tanks, other than the fact that the consensus that PLD is great and WAR are still trucking on
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>>381536359
PLD is fun

WAR is boring, useless, and feels awful

DRK is basically marmite, some people love it and some people find it to feel repetitive. Everyone agrees that it sucks now from levels 1 through 67, and arguably 68-69 as well.
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>>381536552
2 GCDs to put up a 60s dot on one target when trash shouldn't live for more than 25-30 seconds
Yeah seems reasonable

SAM has a fucking AOE rotation, just use it
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>>381536560
So we're looking at easier DRG playstyle, and unlike MNK it doesn't require fight knowledge?
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>>381536494
A lot of roles jumped ship to DPS in this expansion (I'll leave it to you to figure out why) and with the complaints about tanks and healers, I doubt any are going to be returning anytime soon
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>>381536469
It's gotten pretty awful pre 70. Still hate the blood price nerf, it being Grit only I can understand and I'm fine with.

>>381536552
It's the most powerful skill for SAM iirc at 940 potency but for trash it's not worth it, unless the trash has a ton of health, which are usually the bigger mob, like that tank thing in Doman castle.
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>>381536631
>WAR is useless


eat shit my baby is a burst machine with constant mitigation upkeep
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>sam doing 27k crits
what did they mean by this?
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>>381536473
You're the shitposter, retard. You're sitting here and trying to defend 3.0 to 3.1 when it was catastrophic. Anyone here will tell you otherwise but you're simply a blind drone just like blizzfags.

Go suck off Yoshi on reddit instead.
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>>381536631
>WAR is boring, useless, and feels awful

is this right? I liked WAR in HW and couldn't stand how braindead PLD was to play

DRK was meh, didnt like that mana spending/restoring mechanics
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>>381536672
>tfw sch and drk both fucked
Fuck yoshi I'll keep contributing to dps queue problems until he fixes this shit
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>>381536331
Is hard

>>381536552
Higanbana needs like 35 seconds to break even with Midare.
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>>381536758
preasu enjoyeru za geimu
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>>381536728
>my face I saved a Lakshmi gun by holmganging and inner releasing at 2% while the rest was dead
Its these moments
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>>381536758
>27k
>tfw pulled off 40k followed with a 25k guren on susano with buffs
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>>381536672
Most people are trying out the new class it will balance out by 4.1.
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>>381536771
Wow you sure got me anon, it was so bad the game went under and I'm not sitting here playing the expansion that's looking to be even more successful
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>>381529171
>Xaela
Gotta be a Raen to be a top weeb.
Or a step further, a Hyur you've customised to look asian.
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>>381536758
>27k
Anon you might wanna sit down for this
http://imgur.com/a/8d6CF
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>look at all the party finder groups trying to extreme primals
>most of them all are full of dps but have no tanks or heals

Anyone else feel SE fucked up making non dps classes boring as shit?
>>
>>381536919
>it will balance out by 4.1.
I sure hope you don't actually believe this, you're setting yourself up for disappointment
>>
>>381536182
How is FFXI anyway? Would I like if I liked the menu based combat of FF?
>>
>>381536970
>wants to be a weeb instead a mongolian steppe warrior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo
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>>381536979
they also lied about there being extra incentives for rouletes for healers and tanks.
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>>381536798
WAR arguable got out just fine, but the halved resource cost is pretty shit.
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>>381536979
>most of them all are full of dps but have no tanks or heals
So the usual.
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>3.0 killed the raiding community
>4.0 killed the tank/healer community

who they going to kill next?
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>>381536798
It's pretty much right. Warrior lost most of its utility, it's the most heavily penalized tank for stance swapping, Bloodbath is now only usable by melee DPS, and there was a buff+nerf given to Berserk (lower cooldown, no pacify, but lowered to only 30% extra damage) that doesn't really make it any more or less effective as a whole, but does shit all over your non-Berserk damage and make your rotation really inflexible and demanding.
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>>381537019
Its very old and plays like an offline FF now, you wont do shit with anyone until you are 99 with decent gear
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>>381536979
And I bet none of those DPS can output >2000pdps.

MAKE STONE/SKY/SEA MANDATORY ALREADY YOSHI
>>
>>381537102
hardly, I remember creator and zurvan farm groups always filling with both roles extremely quickly because they had the easiest roles in those fights
>>
>that crab mob at the end of the violent tide dungeon

Wew lad I'm not dropping tank stance on that fuck anymore
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>>381536975
mfw as nin have to work super hard nad bend over backwards just to get shity 14k crits.
>>
Guys i uninstalled, you can do it too anon....dont give money to yoshi-p
>>
>>381537021
Mongolian throat singing is pretty cool actually, I remember when I was still studying music we watched them a couple of times, learning to make multiple tones at once isn't easy
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>>381537303
But uninstalling makes no difference to whether or not I'm giving them money
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Okay, hard question for you anons : is there a dps class that require skill BUT is also useful/demanded in HL content ?
>>
>>381537426
People are going to shit on this but honestly being a really good BRD will win over entire FC's.
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>>381537426
Nin
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>>381536369
I like little guides like this with pics and all there was one with blm too can a kind anon post that one too? Saved tbqh.
>>
I'm running rampart,reprisal, not-dark dance, awareness, and provoke. What should I replace for convalescence?
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>>381537134
the RP community is next
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>>381537668
>Awareness
Useless skill unless you are a Warrior at the current content.
>>
>>381537465
I hate how the made this expac dps focused and tanks really shitty to play. I want to pick up bed desu since it's actual support.
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>>381538030
But they made tanks not super dps focused this expac so isn't that what you want
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WHY!
Why have these fuckign paladins not realize holy spirit does more damage than anything else they can do, why do they insist on never fucking using it. Your mana is just sitting there, 2 of your 3 combos give you mana. Why the fuck are you not realizing you are suppose to use it.
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>>381529268
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2ViC6ayp_lR-kO0RrgANJZIN4IzgoWFe0BYgDVd7Pk/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1028077541
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>>381538087
N-no
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>>381537668
Depends on the content, Awareness is good, might drop reprisal unless it's a EX thing. Dark Dance if it's an EX thing.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y-06BA-oqQ
>>
>Akh Morn: 680, direct criticals for like 19-20k
>RDM: Verholy (550 pot), direct criticals for 25k
>BLM: Foul, direct ciritcals for 27k
>680 potency
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>>381538363
Mr face why do you spam your stupid fucking videos here everytime even when they aren't yours but have you in them?
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>>381537681
They sealed off balmung

to truly kill it they'd have to split it in half
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>>381538112
>Why have these fuckign paladins not realized*** holy spirit does more damage

You meant realized. Past tense. Learn to write properly in English.
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>second bardams fight
literally why?
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>>381538425
>Mr face why do you spam your stupid fucking videos here everytime even when they aren't yours but have you in them?
Probably has something to do with him starting a Patreon recently

>64 patrons
>$375 per major video creation
Give me a fucking break
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>>381538406
pet potency is not the same as yours
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>>381538751
>$375 per major video creation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1JJGSJW4PI

>this faggot got $300 for this
People who "support" people on Patreon are the biggest retards on the planet
>>
>>381538406
Sounds about right. I crit with Fell Cleave for around 15k
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>>381538743
>Literally just PAY ATTENTION TO MECHANICS YOU DAFT CUNTS test
>90% will fail
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ala mhigo belongs to the lalafells now
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>>381526893
>do one dungeon
>more exp than all sidequest in an entire zone combined

You're the only one to blame.
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>>381539059
GET OFF MY JOB STINKY POTATO
RREEEEE
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>>381538987
We need a level 15/50 version of it that locks your level until you pass it so people can actually learn fucking mechanics.
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>>381539059
>Doing this scene without being monk
Homosexual confirmed
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>>381538987
My group failed it immediately none of us had done it before and we didn't understand why there was no fight
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>>381539059
>No out come to the fight
Lyse got her shit kick in.
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>>381537102
At least with 3.0 there was a healthy amount of DRK shitters
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>>381539358
>Enter the fight and you see people pop cooldowns
doubt.jpg
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>>381539358
You should at least understand "avoid bad shit".
>>
>>381538112
Why is that Ninja so low?
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>>381539301
WAR version looks pretty cool too since the axe is right in Lyses face
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>>381539358
You can at least understand AVOID AOE AND TURN FOR GAZE
>>
Is the exp bonus for frontline only for the roulette? I'm tired of shatter and thinking of just straight up queuing for Seal Rock.
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>>381538112
really what the fuck else are you going to use your MP on?

Like I don't play PLD but I figure the basic thing to do is

>build up MP for a while
>blow it all on holy spirit spam
>repeat
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