Can we talk about how good this game is?

Guess not...

Sure.

I hate how the only topics that get any traction on /v/ are copy paste bullshit or political bait

Is best game bro, is BEST.

Again? I guess there'll be an influx of new threads after game went on sale.

Yo can we get a crying HK wojack? Just add antlers to him and make his eyes blacked out

>>381520106
Hmph, nothin' personal, kid.

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Can we stop copying and pasting this download (6) crap and talk about the modding scene?

>>381520106
Mod deleted all the Hollow Knight threads because someone was spamming them. I don't blame him, but I wish he left just one up. Maybe this one.

>>381520241
>modding scene
Wait what.

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I summon lamulana autist in the thread.

>>381519883
Playing Ori right now. Is this Ori levels of good?

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So I'm a gameplay over most things kinda guy, I don't like the aesthetic of this game but is the gameplay fun/satisfying/good? How is the movement, and combat?

>>381520365

Dude, it's THE BEST metroidvania ever. YEARS from now people will still be using it as the benchmark.

>>381520365
I've played HK for two hours. I like Ori's visuals and movement better, but HK has it beat in combat and sort of in exploration so far. Supposedly HK is like 30 hours, too. I played through both versions of Ori and have like 20 hours total between them.
Ori 2 should really consider melee, the first was supposed to have melee attacks too but they scrapped it.

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I grew so used to playing videogames while listening to a podcast on my phone that now I can't play anything that requires me to listen or really focus. My life is now podcasts + Rocket League. I became a slave.

>>381519883
I play this on keyboard right?

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loved the game, but the ending sucked balls just like Ori leaving me with feeling of emptiness

I guess I expect too much from metroidvanias to have super metroid-esque endings

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You can practically smell the undertale fanbase in this thread.
Marrow is superior in every way possible. Rain World is superior in every way possible.

>Non existent difficulty
>Piss poor OST composed by some literal who that clearly can't make good sounding audio for shit.
>Flash based artstyle akin to binding of isaac (large outlines, 0 detail, 0 shading, just simplistic looking shit that your average deviant art novice could shit out)
>Comic relief enemies and bosses that cater towards the braindead Undertale crowd, rather than being intimidating
>Shit rewards for exploring
Woah...I got shit fillter-tier crest I'll never ever use....simply epic...
>Juvenile lore made so that retards can develop their own head canon because the devs have so little faith they can make some actual worthwhile lore
>No optional hard as fuck area at the end of the game so that elite players like myself can actually extract some fun out of this dull mess of a game
Not everybody likes playing baby mode easy shit.

How will hollow cucks ever recover?

>>381520671
Controller is better but you can probably pull it off if you have to.

>>381520651
I feel like this has infected a lot of my friends, they went from being serious gamers to strictly phone games and minecraft-likes

i just got it to work and i fucking love it so far. never played one of these so called "metroidvania" games ive been seeing it called other than kirby and the magic mirror when i was a 10 year old, but i only just got to the elder bug and im already in love. A++ art direction, im getting a major dark souls vibe from the world

>>381520435
It's tight but not varied. You'll be mashing X a lot but you need to jump and dodge and cast a few spells at the same time

>>381520746
What is wrong with you?

I only have enough credits for one. Should I get hollow knight or ori? I would appreciate insights from someone who's played both

>>381520435
It's fluid. I'm not a huge fan of metroidvania games but this felt a lot like Shovel Knight or Super Meat Boy to me

>>381520954
Stop responding

>>381520954
It's just a bot. Filter it

>>381520972
Ori. I own both and HK just feels like a generic run of the mill metroidvania.
Ori is a one of a kind in what it does.

>>381521110
Which is what? They're the same game

>>381520972
Ori especially since there's a sequel coming soon.

>>381521110

Does ori have vaguely feminine characters that I can project my virginity onto?

Play if you for some reason are craving a nu-male Tumblr style dark souls clone without the weapon variety or interesting world.

>>381519883
Playing this through family sharing. So far it has not been as good as you guys claim it to be.

>>381520750
Controller is optimal with this one?

PS4 controller good?

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>>381519883
>mfw people keep shilling this nu male game
>mfw people pretend it's anything but a indie dark souls with a cutesy artstyle

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>>381521401
Seems like it was built for PS4

>>381519883
/v/ won't shut the fuck about it, I guess I should beat it since I bought the goddamn thing

>>381521383
>game is shilled as violently as this
>thinking it is going to have any merits that allow it to stand on its own
Good games don't need to be shilled. This game is awful, I'm glad I pirated it.

>>381521454
It's an indie BLOODBORNE with a cutesy artstyle you fucking idiot

>>381521543

> he gave into the shilling

>>381521401
I don't know if it supports PS4 controller natively, but you can do it through Steam or something else if it doesn't

>>381519883
I don't trust /v/ shilling indie games. Not after Undertale.

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I'm modding Hollow Knight, it's a neat game.

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>>381521841
>Not after Undertale.
Hollow Knight literally went after the undertale audience. This is that same set of autists.
If you must check the game out then you'd be doing yourself a favor by pirating it.

It ain't even worth a pirate though.

>>381521841
There used to only be one thread at a time near release. Some guy has a huge hateboner for this game and is roleplaying as a shill for the game by making a million threads for it. He also goes into other threads like when Ori 2 was announced, saying Ori was shit and get HK instead. But really, it's a dude that just hates HK that bad and wants to make it look bad.

>>381522217
>Y-you guys are just pretending to like this game just so you can make fun of it!

How delusional do you have to be?

>>381522378
What about you? Who the fuck would spam six dozen threads with just a copied image of the game's steam image if they liked it?

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>>381522217
>Implying it wasn't hollow autists sperging out because I've triggered them so much.

If you actually are implying that I did it then you're beyond delusional. I never put any effort into my posts, I'm easy going.

>>381522613
>>381522217
it was probably a little bit of both.

>>381522529

I didn't make this thread, you paranoid autist.

Any release date for the new content pack besides "july"?

>>381520365
So far I like Ori more.

Not really seeing what sets this game apart. Also I don't like the money/charm system. Finding money in hidden areas feels pretty pointless and I'd rather have straight upgrades instead of this pick-and-choose compromise stuff.

>>381523263
july

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Does anything on Steam come close to this in regards to collecting and character growth?

>>381521373
>>381521454
>Every game where you lose resources when you die and that has a sort of bleak atmosphere is a dark souls clone

>>381521997
That's just one out of context image though and the similarities end with weak thing in giant armor.

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>>381523313
It's more a Dark Souls mechanic than Metroidvania, so people can focus in different "builds" and such.

What I think really sets it apart though is how well it's pulled off. Every area offers unique challenges, every enemy has unique behavior, and every mechanic is made use of in almost every possible way. It all feels very natural too, because they introduce it all in an order that allows you to adapt. It's possible to beat the game without dying once because there are no real surprises.

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>>381523857
and by no real surprises I mean that it doesn't throw anything at you that you can't be possibly prepared for. There are many surprises.

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>>381523857
>Every area offers unique challenges
>every enemy has unique behavior
>and every mechanic is made use of in almost every possible way.
No they don't. Every area felt the exact same, so much so that I didn't have to change up anything about my play from start to finish.
Every enemy felt like fodder, including the bosses. There's no difference between an enemy rolling at you or running at you.
As for the mechanics, once again, you are wrong. There's a few movement options that are used once or twice but that's all. Other than that they have limited use and can easily be ignored.

Dark Souls works because there's such an insane variety of ways to tackle the game. Hollow Knight falls short on delivering what it wants because the combat is one dimensional, repetitive and boring beyond comprehension. Outside of a couple of the HardMode spirit bosses and the Arena, nearly every second of combat in this game feels like a chore you have to get through to get to more story.
I kept hoping the combat would get better but it never did, which only made the already too-long game feel even longer.

7/10 best I can do.

>>381524151
Every area introduced at least one new platforming mechanic, they couldn't add any more without it feeling like a jumbled mess. How else do you expect them to vary it?

What would you want from enemies if changing their attacks and movement isn't important?

The bouncy shrooms are the only thing I can think of that aren't used more than a few times. Maybe you didn't find any of the secret areas hidden throughout the game?

>>381521864
I hope theres just a lot of them and they kill the FPS

>>381520746
>terraria
>metroidvania
This is advanced shit posting.

I bet OP made this thread just to trigger the metroidvania autist
Good work, OP

>>381520365
JUST played both. Hollow Knight, in my humble opinion, is a bit better.
Ori has a slightly better look. That game is beautiful looking, but Hollow Knight has better gameplay, is longer, and generally more fun

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>>381524440
>Every area introduced at least one new platforming mechanic, they couldn't add any more without it feeling like a jumbled mess.
If you're referring to things like the platforms in whatever the fuck the green area was called that flip when you jump on them, or the floor breaking in the deep nest, then these are all so insignificant that they don't change up how you play at all.

>How else do you expect them to vary it?
I expect the new hazards to make me play somewhat differently to have to deal with them.
There's no point in having hazards that change absolutely nothing.

>What would you want from enemies if changing their attacks and movement isn't important?
Once again, they didn't change them enough.
A game like Marrow is what does enemy design correctly. Each enemy in that game will fuck you up unless you know how they work and deal with them in the correct way.
Meanwhile in Hollow Knight, I saw a new enemy and just charged it and killed it, usually taking 0 damage in the process because what is changed about them is so insignificant that it may as well not exist.

>Maybe you didn't find any of the secret areas hidden throughout the game?
I've 100%'d it.

>>381524189
>to get to more story
Did we play the same game? You feel the combat was getting in the way of the story??

>>381525167
So you 100% it, did the Weaver's den challenge and still bitch about the game being not hard enough?

>>381525379
What's the weaver dens challenge?

I'd honestly wait for the update in July. That'll give everyone whose beaten the game more to discuss.

>>381520529

Pretty sure that's still La-Mulana.

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>>381525379
>So you 100% it
That's right.
>did the Weaver's den challenge
No idea what that is.
>and still bitch about the game being not hard enough?
Yes, because I breezed through the entire thing.
Rain World and Marrow have given me more difficulty in their early game areas than Hollow Knight has given me anywhere.

>>381520365
32 hours in, Hollow Knight is in my top 3 of Metroidvanias, along with Rabi Ribi and Metroid Prime if 3D Metroidvanias count, Super Metroid if not

>>381525735

Have you tried La-Mulana yet?

No, it's not a good game. Stop shilling it.

>>381521454
But its much harder than any Soulsborne game. I haven't had a boss take me over 2 hours to kill since Rabi Ribi, and before that, since I was a child.

>>381525167
I guess we're looking for different things in video games then. I like being able to react quickly to new scenarios and overcome them, I don't like having to learn mechanics that aren't something that comes intuitively to me.

Also, what the fuck is Marrow?

>>381525735
>32 hours in

Come back when you've doubled that and still haven't beaten the game and you're sick of it and don't care to finish it because it sucks.

so much better than breath of plebbit

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>>381525981
I 100%'d it and am waiting for the July update before I beat the final boss. Got everything except for the completed bestiary because of the boss.

If I didn't spend so much time enjoying how beautiful the game is, just walking around the world and hunting for secrets, I'd probably have finished it around 25 hours in. I can't understand how absolutely horrible at gaming you'd have to be to not be able to finish Hollow Knight after 60 hours.

>>381525981
I love how one minority of the haters on /v/ claim it's too easy and another group take two times longer than normal to beat a 20 hour game.

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>>381525882
Imagine being so shit at video games that a boss in Hollow Knight of all things takes you over two hours to beat lmao.

>>381525970
>Also, what the fuck is Marrow?
One of the best Metroidvania's ever created.

>>381526303
>Imagine being so shit at video games that a boss in Hollow Knight of all things takes you over two hours to beat lmao.
It's aimed at children and young teens, what do you expect?

>>381526303
Be honest, did you create it? It looks like Steam Greenlight in a nutshell

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>>381526394
I've played many games aimed towards children which are harder than HK though. The game could have benefited from some actual difficulty.

>>381526425
Nope, I wasn't even there when it got greenlit, I only saw it a month or so ago when somebody mentioned it in a metroidvania thread right before it 404'd.

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>>381526303
Must be really good if nobody plays it.

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>bought it during sale
>expected a decent Metroidvania
>got side scrolling Dark Souls-lite with a qt bug waifu

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>>381526806
Too hard for casuals.
>mfw asshurt people from these threads have been trying to beat it for a while to rub it in my face
>mfw they can't even make it past the first area
Truly vases made out of clay.

>>381526806
omfg 2 all time peak

that tier list repost fag had it in his list, maybe he's the second person to play it

>>381519883
>most of the game is simple hack & slash
>last dungeon suddenly goes full Super Meat Boy
Managed to get through it but I got so burned out that I couldn't even bother to finish the game. Fuck that shit.

I don't get it, why share your opinion that the game is shit if your idea of good is a game that 99% of people would think is shitty?

>>381527192
That area is optional, sorry you had to find out this way.

>>381526146
If you beat the boss and reload you come back right before the fight with the possibility of walking away and the boss's entry in the Hunter's journal.

You might also realise that you're actually missing some more stuff for the journal.

>>381526806
>2 is the fucking all-time peak

How the fuck?

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>>381521454
they've been shilling this same shit all day. every fucking thread is
>hey guys, what should i get? hollow knight or ori?
>hmm ori is a great game but you should definitely buy (and not torrent) hollow knight

>>381527721
maybe cause it's a good game and people want others to enjoy it as well?

>>381527949
No, you can't like anything on /v/. If you do you must be a shill.

>>381527721
That's not shilling you absolute retard

>>381527024
>all-time peak: 2
Yeah no one's trying to beat it sweetie
Literally only you and some other poor soul

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>>381527683
Pretty simple really.
>Game has absolutely no advertisement
>Gets green lit by the few people that do know about it
>Game comes out
>Still no advertisement in sight
>People who green lit try it
>Can't make it to the SECOND save of the game (not even joking)
>Have to drop it early on because they cannot make progress
I didn't even know about it either until recently.

We live in a world where people find S&S, DS and HK too hard.
Marrow is actually hard in the truest sense. If you beat the game then you have every right to gloat about it, because there's no guides to help you with it, no videos or let's plays (they all end at episode 1 with the people playing it making 0 progress) to watch for help.

>>381528140
Somebody pirated it and streamed it for the thread. I was there. He got fucked.

>>381528160
>People who green lit try it
No they don't. I mean look at it
>All-time peak:2
This is literally just the devs testing it to see if it works properly on Steam or some shit. I'm actually embarassed for them and I'm sure they probably hate you for ruining any chance of purchase here with your autism.

>>381528160
is it just hard but shit or actually good? i might be up to the challenge.

>>381526806
Just looked this game up cause I'm curious. I don't know if I'm looking at the right thing because this looks like absolute garbage that would be on one of those children's free gaming sites

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>>381519883
are PCbros that starved for games that they end up playing uninspired indie shovelware? i mean sure you gotta get those stickers and all but come on guys, have some integrity

>>381528160
wow this game sounds so underground and hip i'm gonna pay for it on steam® right now

>>381528827
It's underground all right.

6 feet under

>>381522613
Would you by any chance happen to have sauce on this one? I need it for recreational purposes.

>unity
>unity
>unity

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>>381528140
Spotted one of the asshurt shitters that no doubt got ruined by the game.
Get good why play lmao?

>>381528293
It was such fun. He sounded so confident that he'd be able to handle it at first too.
Anybody else want to take a crack at it? No? Didn't think so.

>>381528404
>This is literally just the devs testing it to see if it works properly on Steam or some shit.
Apparently you do not understand what peak means. You seem to have it in your head that only two people have played the game.

>I'm actually embarassed for them and I'm sure they probably hate you for ruining any chance of purchase here with your autism.
Embarrassed*
No need to thank me for educating you on how to spell dear.
Also I found the game a good 4 months after it came out.

>>381528520
Hard but good. It has better gameplay, music, art design and just more memorable moments in general that Hollow Knight.
It's also a much bigger game in general.
>>381528920
[Onizuka Naoshi] Emotive

>>381528643
Theres that console cuckold envy kicking into full blast again

>>381519883
Stop shilling this fucking game. Everyone says that Shovel Knight is better.

>>381529141
Thank you kindly, based anon.

>>381529141
im gonna buy marrow then, if it turns out shit im gonna autistically shill hollow knight just to spite you

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>>381529389
No problem. Enjoy enjoy.

>>381529512
Go for it.
You best not pull a "I couldn't get past the first area so it's shit" though.

Still waiting warmly for somebody to either complete the game or make it a good way through so they actually have some weight to what they say. So far all I'm hearing is the asshurt of casuals because they lack the skill to make any progress.

>>381529512
Have you looked at the trailer on steam of Marrow? Save yourself the money. It actually is a pain to look at. The art is so fucking shitty.
And look at the first user review on steam and guess who it is...

>>381520746
>No Shadow Complex
Shit chart.

>>381520241
>modding scene
Source where?

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>>381529854
The art style is pure kino.
Shits on your shitty hollow cuck flash art style with ease.
>And look at the first user review on steam and guess who it is...
My reviews truly are the best, let's be honest here.
I'm way overdue to review hollow knight too. I wonder if you cucks will get triggered more than the rabi ribi autists when I reviewed their game. I wanna see which review gets downvoted more.

>>381520746
>Terraria
>Bunny Must Die
>Valdis Story
0/10 effort shitpost anon

>>381520746
Why does the Terraria on here always destroy my sides? I love Terraria but come on...

>>381530314

Fuck off Maze. No one wants to hear about the obscure game you're shilling.

Should I buy?

>>381530314
Stop being such a faggot, anon. I'm a masochist that beat Cave Story my first run through as a 3 heart run with polar star and no jet pack, and difficulty isn't everything. Hollow knight is a solid experience with well-placed and well-designed enemies. Marrow looks like trash, and it looks like it tried to copy the first Castlevania without any regard for thoughtful enemy placement.

>>381520746
>tfw love Metroidvanias and consider them one of my favorite genres but haven't played most of these games
I think I'll finally get to La-Mulana, Cave Story, and Bunny Must Die at least real soon.

I normally hate Metroidvanias because I dont like running around and whacking against walls until i find the route for progression. I really liked Ori and Shadow Complex though. What should I play next?

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>>381530496
>>381530518
Terraria is, quite literally, a metroidvania in the guise of a sandbox game.
Search your heart, you know this to be true.

>>Bunny Must Die
What about it?
>>Valdis Story
What about it?
I don't even know what you're implying tbqhwy.

>>381530625
I disagree, there's a plethora of interest in the games since I'm known for having only the finest of tastes.
You're only upset because you lack the skill to play vidya kino on this level.

>>381530735
>I'm a masochist that beat Cave Story my first run through as a 3 heart run with polar star and no jet pack
Cave story is piss easy, am I supposed to be impressed?

>Marrow looks like trash, and it looks like it tried to copy the first Castlevania without any regard for thoughtful enemy placement.
This right here is how I know that you've tried the game and quickly realized that you were a casual unable to beat it. The enemy placement is all perfect. You no doubt got stuck at a certain area (I bet you're that guy that got the reservoir and couldn't get out KEK) and cannot make any more progress, so you come here to cry about it.

Embarrassing to be honest.

>>381530812
La-Mulana is king, try to play it without using a guide. Have a note pad handy and enjoy the ride.
The other two are great too, but Bunny Must Die is incredibly good.
I even played through it a shit ton of times just to get the achievements, and I usually never bother with those.

>>381531117
I've actually played Cave Story before but have never managed to beat it. I think I've started it like two or three times, always get past the first few 'levels', then just drop it for reasons. Which is weird, because I actually really, really liked what little I played of it.

Which one of those games should I play first?

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>>381531256
>I've actually played Cave Story before but have never managed to beat it. I think I've started it like two or three times, always get past the first few 'levels', then just drop it for reasons. Which is weird, because I actually really, really liked what little I played of it.

I've done similar things, like with Radiant Historia (aka my favorite JRPG of all time). I played it twice up to an area called Granorg before dropping it. Only recently did I get to finally play it to completion.

Sounds to me like you did what I did, aka tried to force yourself to play something when you weren't really in the mood for that type of game. It usually takes me a while to get hooked by jrpg's.


Anyway, I'd always recommend playing La-Mulana first. It really is as good as everybody says it is. Don't believe the shit people say about it being overly cryptic, 99% of the puzzles are pretty straight forward providing you actually put some thought into them.

Since you've played CS a few times already though and haven't finished it, I think you should either go for La-Mulana or Bunny Must Die for sure. You can't go wrong with either of them.

I've been playing HK fpr about five hours now and I think that the pace of the game could be faster in terms of the overall progression. The world is huge and most of the powerups have been rather minor, the enemies and jumping segments themselves are often nice but I can't help feeling that there's some filler in there, especially when the gameplay itself is pretty safe and seen metroidvania stuff. Maybe the game picks up later and develops more character but it sure does take its time.

The sound design is great, by the way. All the different clicks, pops etc feel very satisfying and have that character that the already mentioned gameplay doesn't seem to have. The music is fine too.

>>381531256
You're asking the wrong faggot.

Can't go wrong with La-Mulana or Cave Story, both are fantastic games and the epitome of the genre. Cave Story for a game that you can pick up and immediately get into, La-Mulana for something that you're willing to push through and commit to. It's the type of game where you need to keep a notebook handy.

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Please reply.

>>381531650

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WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

>>381531675
I'm surprised you like BMD so much but not Rabi Ribi.

who is this weeaboo faggot with his shitty greenlight game?

>>381531934
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

>>381531675
>Radiant Historia
So you do have some good taste.

>>381531675
>>381531802
Thanks, dudes. I'm probably going to go with Cave Story first.

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>>381531934
This can't be real.

>>381531934
WELL AND TRULY POTTERY

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>>381532171
Now don't fucking drop it this time.

>>381531802
>You're asking the wrong faggot.
Imagine being this asshurt because you failed to impress me with your shitty cave story challenge run lmao

>>381531981
Well Bunny Must Die is a good deal different than Rabi Ribi, so it shouldn't be too surprising. The only thing they have in common is the MC's are rabbit girls.

>>381532162
The best taste.

>>381531934
Why are all my posts pure art?
You ruined it though by putting some low quality post that isn't mine on there.

>>381532575
Throw a tripcode on these posts and they'll reach a new level of gay

>>381532575
What's your reason for posting an image every time?

>>381533002
He thinks it makes it ironic.

>>381532332
>>381532002
Did you even read what happens when you post this?

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>>381532842
I'll pass.

>>381533002
What can I say, I love me some reaction images.

>>381533229
We're trying to empathize here.

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>>381531802
>>381532171
A note book is an understatement. A4 exercise book with graph pad is probably more representative.