How is this game? I heard it was similar to the older Fallout games.

Pretty fun. I couldn't get into the older fallout games but this game had me hooked.

>>381494736
>>381495025
I couldn't get into the older fallouts either and unfortunately I didn't dig this one as well. However that was on me and my own personal tastes. For what I played I found it to be pretty good. Albeit a bit tough.

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Very similar to the old Fallout games, but updated. I haven't found anything that didn't work, and when someone does, the creator fixes it. It's got some fun lore, and the various mechanics are all fleshed out. Like stealth isn't just based on sneak stat and line of sight, but also amount of noise made and how that noise echos off of walls. Combat generally feels pretty rewarding too.

>>381496187
Everyone keeps saying it's like the original fallout, but which parts? Exploration? Writing? Sense of Humor?

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>>381496284
A bit of all of that, honestly. You've got a megacorp that went under that left a lot behind in the form of ruins and logs and child companies, a shit ton to explore, freedom of choice in combat vs. diplomacy vs. stealth and with dialogue in general. Honestly exploration is a bit better even, more to explore at least since there are no "travel tiles".

>>381496284
All of it. It is Isometric view point, art style is similar with more updated graphics of course, post apocalyptic setting, has same sort of humor etc.

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>>381496627
I don't really have many screenshots.

I like how underrail enables my obnoxious dick-ass playthrough. I figured throwing weapons and traps would be useless, but instead I'm sneaking around putting bear traps everywhere and poisoned caltrops and shit it's great. so many levels where you can creep around in vents too

>>381496865
Yeah, some of the play styles are really fun. Doing mostly mind control with some thermal stuff, feels great getting that pack of rathounds in the DC to tear each other apart, the last one dying right before reaching me.

>>381497117
Locus of Control + Enrage is hilarious fun.

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>Burrowers

>>381497794
the burrower level in the gauntlet was pure evil

>all these types of poison harvested from the shit I kill
>all these crossbow bolts / throwing knives / caltrops / bear traps to put it on
>my molotov cocktails and landmines when
>continuously find recipes for new cool stuff

/v/ pls don't shit on crafting, it's fun when it's not just >durr I find the colored rare metal and make sword

>>381498194
Some of those fish for drugs are stupid though. Took points for that and for crafting headbands. Gotta try the poisons next time around.

>>381498194
Crafting is fine when it is a optional addition to the game. It should be there to enhance an already great item/weapon system. It should not BE or replace the system though.

>>381494736
Pretty unbalanced, almost as bad as Arcanum. It's not like older fallout where it actually is possible to murder hobos your way through the game, and strategy is almost non-existent due to enemies just being meat shields or mental fortresses. Either you sneak (which gets you nowhere real fast) or you grind and grind and grind. First half of the game is pretty fucking boring too. That said I did enjoy the ivory tower design and minmaxing glory.

>>381498189
>have difficulty clearing out the first area next to camp hathor
>go drop shit off, heal up and restock
>come back
>it's full of burrowers again

>>381498489
>grind
Yeah, if you're a pleb not using the oddities exp system.

I should play this again
I was at the part in the underground after the facenigs attacked the scientology cult

>>381498625
>oddity system
Same shit again, because oddities are guarded behind enemies or skill barriers

>>381498739
what's the problem exactly

>>381498739
Or, you know, you find them in boxes and shit too.

But yeah you can fuck yourself over. I don't think you need to actually min/max to complete the game, you just can't spread yourself too thin.

no shotguns

>>381498830
that the AI is hurrdurr look at my HP and Damage and Status Negation.

My favourite part of the game was exploring the lower underrail and taking on all the combat encounters you find as you venture through the caves and tunnels and railways. Most of them were the perfect level of challenge for me, usually taking two or three attempts before I survived. Fighting the Lurkers at their base was a highlight.

>>381498489
Yeah if you build a terrible character it's pretty unforgiving.

>>381494736
Similar in that they are both isometric, turn based and set in a post-apocalyptic world. UnderRail is hell of a lot more combat and exploration oriented.

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>>381498887
At the moment. I can't wait to blast motherfuckers with a shotgun while speeding by on a jetski.

My only problem was that there's no ingame map
I mean there's lots of papers everywhere the protagonist should at least draw some basic map there but I had to do it myself in real life so fuck that this isn't 1990s where I had to write down codes and shit again.

>>381498947
I love building terrible characters because it appeals to my inner masochist. However I don't enjoy having near zero strategy due to game design.

Free Drones a shit

This is a great game but it's also a niche game.

Don't buy this game and expect fast paced gameplay or a great story or characters. This game is for people who like experimenting with different builds with a fallout type of combat system. The game has excellent combat if that appeals to you and a competent crafting system as well.
I felt the game had nice atmosphere and good music too but that's much more personal preference.

>>381499164
There's strategy but it is dependent on the player being intelligent.

>>381499154
It's a design choice.

Styg is weird like that.

>run up to wall
>put up force field so nobody can get to me
>they all bunch up, ready to give me a hard banging
>it comes down
>Locus + Enrage
>run off
>laugh as they murder eachother for my entertainment

Proxy + Punch does huge amounts of damage, always look forward to delivering that
And Breakdown + Bilocation is wonderful fun

>>381499165
Gassing them with the CAU was fun. Got frantic when I set the bomb off, had gotten spotted the moment I did. The rest was a race to shove past everyone and get out. Took a few tries.
Felt kinda bad when the dude that rigged the canister with the timer "vanished mysteriously" after I ratted him out though. Wonder what happened to him, if he wasn't simply taken out back and shot.

>>381499227
I liked the story. More general lore than story though I guess.

I've been using a build guide and everything is going well, there were some tough spots but I managed to beat them in the end. Now I'm doing a clean up before going to the DC

Fuck the gauntlet though.

>>381499154
I just mapped them in my mind. For the life of me though, I cannot recall any expansive map in this game now.

The map drawing system of Etrian Odyssey would be great though.

>>381499236
Stop pretending you are good at this game

>>381499527
I thought it was neat that you could turn into a mutant and still play a bit as a mutant.

>>381499663
Before dying, but yeah, pretty cool having a unique attack.

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>tfw first time throwing a molotov at a group
>Fear
>Fear
>Fear
>Fear
>Burning
>Burning
>Burning
>Burning

>>381499527
[Spoiler]>tfw when I killed everyone before gassing the base[/Spoiler]
What was even the point of activating it after that.

>>381498441
That being said it doesn't make the game any worse. If it's a barrier for you than maybe you should either adapt or just play another game
Undertale would probably be up your speed : ^ )

>>381499762
To me it reminds me of the final choice you get in Fallout 1, where The Master offers to dip you in a mutant vat, and I was excited for that - I wanted to play as a Super Mutant - but if you choose that option you just lose the game.

>>381499165
I like the free drones
they're endearingly incompetent

>>381499861
Not that anon, but it sounds like a good way to insure everyone is dead and they aren't coming back.

>>381499663
I think I read somewhere that you could actually beat the game after becoming a mutant.

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>>381499861
Maybe they've still got buddies that would then come along?

>>381499949
I want to side with them in my next playthrough, but those Protectorate drilling things look intimidating. And CAU armor is the best armor for the DC, of course.

>>381499861
Oh my god that's what I get for not using ctrl+s

>>381500121
Wrong, best armour is Rathound Regalia :)

>>381499154
>no option where NPCs could sell you maps but some are useless because of the quake and some are fake to trap some clueless fuck into a mugging

>>381500121
You can still get that if you side with the Freedrones.

who stealth here

>>381499858
>tfw playing a heavy armor assault rifle class
>barely get any move points so I just stand still
>take 0-2 damage from any attackers
>spray full auto a fucking annihilate any enemies who make the mistake of stepping into sight
Easiest way to play the game but still pretty fun

Black Eels or Scrappers?

>>381500236
I want to do a Lurker style stealth trapper next, maybe when the X-Pac lands. Can shotguns be stealthy? Can jetskis be stealthy?

>>381500252
Psi is the easiest.

>>381500253
Black Eels is the only correct choice. No reason to side with the Scrappers.

>>381500253
the ones with the larger quest and better rewards

>>381500253
Both for the xp.

>>381500172
Well duh, that's what I had been using up to getting sprayed with acid and set on fire semi-regularly. Became the Invictus in that thing. Everyone chanting Temptress.
I want full art of those two sets of armor, to at least have a better image of what they look like.

I tried to play a mage in this game and I was having a blast until I got to the point where there were a whole squad of guys that had grenades. I could survive multiple gunshots/melee attacks but a single grenade would one hit me. I couldn't manage to stun or kill every guy and the moment one of them got a free move they would just one hit me with the grenade.

I really like it but if your build isn't some cookie cutter powerhouse you're going to suffer unnecessarily

>>381500467
>I couldn't manage to stun or kill every guy

try using grenades :^)

>>381496865
>stealth
>knives
>SMGs
>kicks to the balls
Operator build best build.

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>>381500236
Stealthy sniper with Thought Control abilities was the most fun character I played. Bilocation and Neurovisual Disruption are amazing.

>>381498489
>where it actually is possible to murder hobos your way through the game

This is the first time I heard anyone suggesting that you can't be a murder hobo in Underrail. You are a scavenger. It can't get more murder hobo than that.

>and strategy is almost non-existent due to enemies just being meat shields or mental fortresses

Again, what? Strategy is non-existent in a game where enemies call for back up, loud noise can alert enemies far away, where different enemies have wildly different resistances that you can't possibly cover with only one type of weapon, where you can stealth freely and succeed or fail based on the combination of your skill, the enemies' skill and outside factors, where you can prepare the battlefield with traps before engaging, and where enemies take cover, use strategies like poison/restealth/wait stealthed until stun kicks in, deal with you differently depending on whether you are a mage or not?

What are you talking about?

So guys how about that super steel huh

Is it even worth it if you don't get 150-160 quality plates?

Favourite enemy?
Least favourite enemy?
Favourite location?

>>381500252
>>381499858
>play knife build
>tfw I get 9 fucking attacks per turn

>>381500698
if you're using leather armor it's always worth it given that infused leather has several unique properties

>>381500467
What kind of grenade was it?

>>381500731
>Favourite enemy?
final boss just because he's fun to bully and show off builds on
>Least favourite enemy?
psi gangs that stun/freeze you
>Favourite location?
Foundry i think it was called, the big mining city

>>381500743
there's a gimmick build that allows you to use an smg to shoot 100 bullets in 1 turn

>>381500743
>get the drop on a group of enemies
>cut the throat of one of them, stun the other with a kick, stab the third to death immediately
>0 shots fired
Knives and stealth are orgasmic. You're made of tissue paper, but it's so damn satisfying to pull off a clean ambush.

How did you defeat Carnifex?

>>381500903
And if I'm using metal armor?

>>381494736
Would have loved this game if there was sprinting, god damn it was slow.

>>381501049
Luck. I got really lucky with my heavy armor/AR build when I triggered Commando off a camera kill.

>>381501037
>tfw stealth boxer with custom pneumatic gloves
knives are clean but nothing sends a message like blowing someone's head off with your first

This is probably a stupid question because of the way the game looks but does anyone know how well it runs on shitty hardware? I think I read that it can slow down in bigger areas or something.

My laptop has a 2.10 dual core cpu, 4gb RAM, and first generation Intel hd graphics.

>>381501161
ahah that's pretty damn funny

>>381501049
I still haven't.

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>>381501037
>chuck molotov cocktail into a group of faggots
>run away down my route
>mfw it's covered in landmines and poisonous bear traps

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>>381501090
Seems like a good idea to me. Other than the waiting you really don't need money for much late game other than the crafting benches.

I was a massive fan of Fallout 1 and 2. I bought them both on release day.

Underrail is more evolved in some ways, and less in others. The plot is quite thin at times, and NPC interactions are minimal. The end also gets very strange.

It's an unambiguous dungeon crawl, with a really good character building system. There are TONS of ways to make viable characters.

Be aware that the game is EXTREMELY long and difficult. I personally cannot believe that I finished it.

>>381501207
Anon, the game runs perfectly on one of my 14 year old Win XP toasters. Trust me, you'll be fine.

>>381501049
Mind Control mostly. Might've frozen him first.

>>381501049
actually managed to somehow win the initiative on my sniper build and blew his head clean off

that must have been one hell of an anti-climatic event for the onlookers

>>381501207
I have only slightly better specs in my laptop (dedicated gpu) and it ran 60fps at 1080p the entire 90 hours I played. Sometimes the turns take a while to load if there are many people fighting, but the game doesnt have any actual graphical effects that will make your framerate dip.

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Styg give expansion pls

Who /sneaky xbow user/ here?
>tfw your chances of winning a fight is equal to the number of traps in your backpack

Casual here.

All the options in the character creation menu intimidate me.

Can I get a quick rundown on skills to level?

>>381501718
have fun with ol' tentacleye

>>381501474
So basically how McGregor vs Aldo went

>>381497242
Where the hell do you find Enrage? The Wiki said it was being sold by a doctor in Rail Crossing, but I can't find that NPC. I've looked fucking EVERYWHERE.

I've beaten the game and visited every merchant, and it pisses me off that I don't have it. I even fucking have Locus of Control!!

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>>381501495
Yeah the long turn thing is it just taking the same amount of time for every NPC that is doing something. Luckily you can speed up combat, I think Styg added that while I was in the middle of my run.

>>381501752
Got a second thing, too.

>>381501437
I'm mostly amazed how Underrail managed to make single PC combat really damn fun and varied. It's amazingly enjoyable compared to Fallout's Aimed Shot -> Eyes.

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>>381501896
Top left corner.

>>381502035
That's an old version.

>>381501752
It all depends on what you want to do.

>>381501752
Short answer? Whatever you want.

Long answer? You should decide on how you want to kill. Not just with what, but how. Stealthily? Tanking everything and shooting things to bits? Wanna be a wizard?

We can give some advice what goes best with what, but decide what kind of character you'd like to play first.

Any chance of this game coming to consoles?

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>>381501902
Covers a lot more stuff, read this one through basically, don't overthink things when making your character. Covers some basic start-up stuff too.

>>381502174
I don't think the actual layout changed that much, is that door no longer there?

>>381502193
Probably not, it's all of a single guy making it.

>>381502176
not him but i want to be a wizard
only thing stopping me from playing is the million options and stats that could fug me

>>381502153
She is still there, though.

>>381502193
absolutely 0: it's made by a small team and the game is build entirely around the usage of m&k, honestly it wouldn't be particularly fun to play with a controller

and really there's no need for it: the computer you're currently using can run it

>>381502327
What if anon is phoneposting?

>>381502258
Max Will. 7 Int. High Con if you want to tank, high Agility if you want to sneak. Strength and dex are dump stats.

>>381502258
Read these:
>>381501902
>>381502250
then look up Underrail builds on YouTube. Some Russkie who played the game since beta uploaded a bunch of useful videos on how to build certain archetypes. You don't have to follow his videos completely but they should help shed some light on character creation for you.

>>381494736
both it and especially age of decadence (and dungeon rats) take fallout combat formula and actually make it work. unlike obsidian shit those are actually true renaissance crpgs.

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*blocks your path*

>>381501752
Automatic rifles and heavy armor, pack some grenades with you and youll be invincible by the time you get your first shield, at least on normal. If you want to actually have fun though Id say pick what you think sounds cool and focus on offensive skills until you feel like your dude no longer struggles. Crafting is cool but money isnt hard to come by in this game and theres plenty of traders.

>>381502487
age of decadence also 75% off, fucking amazing game

>>381502258
Not much can really fuck you if you are a wizard. Max your will, max your wizard skills, and you will be fine.

Okay, so now that we established that you want to be a wizard, on to the next step.

Do you want to drop nukes? Or do you like to be more creative with your magic?

>>381501902
>>381502250
These guides are pretty outdated and were made when the game initially launched. There's no reason to leave any stat at 4. Just drop it down to 3 and put that point somewhere more important.

>>381502589
>Or do you like to be more creative with your magic?
like what

>>381502327
My computer is so shit it can barely run 10 year old games.

>>381502534
i think of it as a true successor to bloodlines due to sheer amount of choice and branching it gives you.

>>381502258
>not him but i want to be a wizard
you're in luck then, full psi is considered one of the most "retard proof" builds in the entire game

for stats: at least 7 int so you can take the fun perks, will is your best friend, do not abandon your best friend, and you can safely ditch strength and perception at 3 and never look back

for the rest read up a bit on the perks, see which ones you like, adjust your other stats around that and lastly pick either tranquility or psychosis, they'll determine what sort of wizard you are

for skills, maximize your psi skills, and aside from those I'd suggest maximizing both hacking and lockpicking so you'll have maximum combat, full psi is also one of the few builds that can actually afford to waste points so if you want to see diplomacy options pick one of the diplo skills and pick a couple of crafting skills you like

>>381502670
underrail is not demanding at all, it most certainly does not demand anything near the power required to run 10y old games

>>381502665
Like fucking with enemies to make them attack shit that isn't there, or each other, or mind crush them. New expansion is adding some sort of time manipulation.

>>381502665
Like chain cast different spells and figure out combos. Basically crowd control instead of focusing on raw damage. Keep in mind that your damage will be good either way, just not necessarily nuke-tier.

Like the Fallout games, you will have the illusion of being able to build any sort of character you want.

And like the Fallout games, you best hope that build isn't stealth or melee, nigger, or you're gonna regret that shit in short order.

>>381502035
Wow, thanks SO much!!

I didn't realize that one of the train doors opens, into a shop. It doesn't highlight, so I never dragged my mouse cursor over it realize that.

Man, I can't believe I got this only AFTER beating the game. Well, at least it'll help in Expedition.

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>Do psi build
>that fucking Tchort mission with the robot ambush

>>381502665
you have 2 distinct paths to follow depending on your perk choice

psychosis: which is build entirely around getting bigass numbers on your spells by virtue of crits and crit multipliers

tranquility: which eschews sheer numbers in favor of allowing you to use more spells per turn allowing more control and combos

>>381503008
That shit was pretty intense with a crossbow too, luckily shock arrows are a thing

>>381503008
emp grenades are your friends

>>381502912
No problem, shit blends in. Enjoy it when Expedition comes out, it's a fun skill.

>>381503008
Having trouble remember that after Arke Power Station and the System Shock reference.
>tfw I kept trying to get around this one single corner, only to backtrack and realize the path ahead had already been opened at some point in the past
Stock up on the best EMPs you can craft before you get to the point of no return if you haven't.

>>381503206
>Have no points in throwing
>End up more or less savescumming at the end

>>381502910
What? Both stealth and melee are really strong.

Pistols are the only somewhat shitty choice, and crossbow can be difficult for beginners, but that's it.

>>381503021
Tranquility actually deals more damage in the long run. Psychosis is really only for one shotting the final boss.

>>381502910
Sounds like you just made some shitty builds.

>>381501049
Take all the drugs.

>>381503293
>End up more or less savescumming at the end

It shouldn't come to that. When you select where to throw just keep in mind that worst case scenario is that your throwing will be off by 4 tiles.

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>make the mistake of scrolling down far enough to see the reviews
>top review: negative
>currently playing: fallout 4

>>381503414
Morphine is great

>>381503008
lmao just hack it

oh wait you didn't put any points in hacking lol what a fag

>>381503605
it's a niche game so course it's going to have negative reviews by folks who play it without being part of that niche

Crawler caves are genuinely creepy.

Is the no map thing a big deal?

>>381502665
So, have you made up your mind? Psychosis and tranquility require really different builds to truly shine both in terms of stats and support skills, so it's best to decide in advance.

>>381503942
I was thinking maybe Tranquility with stealth if that would work

>>381503479
I had plenty of times when I was the only one caught in the blast.

>>381503929
For some people, yeah. I actually forgot that there wasn't a map. DC I needed a map for for sure at the start.

>>381503329

Fuck off, man, getting through the Junkyard when you've put all your points into getting Cut-Throat as soon as possible- and STILL haven't gotten it yet, because the cost is so fucking punitive- leaves you completely shafted for options.

I am aware there are other melee skills. I tried getting them. They did fuck-all, and the armor didn't do shit for me either.

It's the fucking Cathedral quest in FO1 all over again.

>>381504015
Can confirm it works. Stealth means you get the jump on them, and then with tranquility you can get several steps ahead of everyone. Locus of Control is great with that. Turns anything into an AoE.

>>381504015
it most certainly does, in fact there is a psi-skill that allows you to instantly restealth in combat
I would recommend investing in a good shield generator though, because while stealth + tranquility will ensure that 99% of the enemies you meet won't come near touching you, the 1% that does will hit hard

>>381503929
Not really. Most players do fine without any kind of map, but if you feel confused just make your own map, something crude like circles and sticks should suffice. Alternatively there are several fan made maps you can download, ranging from collages to excel maps and full 3D maps made in Unity.

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>Nobody believes you're the invictus

>>381504310
Feels bad. The ones that laugh and think it's cute or something at least believe you though.

Quick, what was everyone's Invictus name?
>Temptress
>Used almost exclusively mind control

>>381494736
Wanted to like this game and I used to like these types of games when I was younger. Just felt extremely slow and boring. I guess having a job and a gf who bugs me a lot just distracts me too much from being able to enjoy slower rpgs.

>>381501902
>faster and quicker

>>381504410
I got Bomberman.

>>381504410
Lead Storm.

Well I use burst all the time so it makes sense.

>>381504410
Firestarter! I used metathermics a lot.

>>381504410
Mister Freeze
made shatter combos my signature move

I can only imagine the blizzard of puns never stopped

>>381494736

Seems meh, I watched a bit of metalcanyon play it on Youtube, didn't look fun enough to warrant a buy or keep following it for me.

>>381504410
>>381504310
>if you take the institute's booze testing "quest" you can actually go on a drunken rant about how nobody believes it

>>381504753
>watching games on YouTube
>not watching games on the superior game viewing platform, Twitch

>>381504410
Paralyzer.

>>381501752
You can try one of this guy's builds. Some of them are harder than others but the basic ones like this one and the psion one tell you what to do pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeKIoIrGw0o&list=PL4UqltmSKaEeXDKyLU1VduPd9beRw47AD&index=37

>>381504837

Good luck ever finding someone playing that on Twitch.

>>381504470
not the games fault you hate your wage slave job and bitch gf

>>381504789
>and then you wake up in a crate
Fuck, I had forgotten about that. On that subject, anyone else feel bad for Psycho? Just wanted to get with the ladybug. Hope the Faceless didn't just slaughter them along with those rejects or whatever they were called.

>>381504789
>You can also tell the guy that you only joined to get back the cube they stole
Best game.

>>381504015
Absolutely.

With tranquility the trick is that in order to get the benefit of this spec, you should do everything in your power to not get hit. Once you lose HP, the bonus will be gone until you heal yourself back to max. So avoidance is a great way to go about this. This also means that you can safely drop constitution and strength to the minimum, since having more health is not really useful when you don't want to use any, and you won't be wearing armor heavy enough to require higher than minimum strength.

For even better avoidance you should definitely take both lockpicking and hacking, so you'll have access to ventilation systems or turn off/take control of security systems.

You will be wearing light armor, so take tailoring. Also take electronics for shields, cloaking devices, psi headbands, etc.

You can take some persuasion/intimidation if you wish. It's more of a just for fun thing, but with high will it will be dirt cheap so you can afford it.

Other optional skills that can be good for you are dodge, evasion, biology, throwing, traps, pickpocket. Neither is absolutely necessary, so mix and match these as you like.

I don't know if it's because I don't like games like these or what, but for some reason I can't get into Underrail though I wish I could. I've never really played games like this so I'm kind of confused about how to play it.

>>381505190
Keep at it, start over with another build if you feel you messed up, and you'll get the feel of it.

>>381505116
I told that to the lady investigator for the entry interview. Ended up winning the combat, and massacring the entire Institute room by room, finding the elevator to DC, and after a few attempts survived the Faceless assault long enough for the elevator to arrive and I made it down. Pretty fun, though I feel like I might have missed out on a few quests...

>>381505112
>>381505116
All those bro-tier researchers were mercilessly slaughtered by the faceless when they invaded

>>381504173
>implying Junkyard is even remotely hard

Holy shit, the remainder of the game's difficulty will BLOW YOUR MIND if you thought Junkyard was hard.

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why haven't you done a e-pistol run yet anon?
tfw tchort can only be stunned by mental breakdown so i have to reload the run to a point way before DC just so i can doubledip on psi so i can come back stun him and critically execute his fat ass

>>381505335
>Pretty fun, though I feel like I might have missed out on a few quests
by my count you missed out on a good 12 quests, most of which have unique quest rewards

>>381503763
theres a oddity you get only by killing all the robots

>>381504071
>I had plenty of times when I was the only one caught in the blast.

Again, avoid throwing to a place that within a range of 4 tiles to you. As long as you do this, the grenade will never hit you. Of course, sometimes you have no option but to gamble, because you are surrounded or whatever. I like to shoot a morphine in cases like that, just to prepare for the worst.

>>381505428
Junkyard is the first litmus test for a shit build though. Even the basic Muties can put a hurting out.

>>381505428
you know what, it would be hilarious to see him stumble across his first crawler infested cavern

>>381504173
There is a very simple solution to all of your Junkyard problems: buy molotovs. Lots of them. Pretty much any build can make it through Junkyard with enough molotovs.

>>381505570
until you realize you can just skin one of the dogs, wear his hide as armor and breeze through the place

>>381505518
Oh

I'm the fag then.

Sorry.

>>381505747
Once you learn that you've pretty much got the game down and shouldn't have much trouble after that.

>>381505525
I'll try to remember that for my next run, I've just got the mutagen puzzle left.
>thought I figured it out
>set up a spreadsheet
>turns out new segments added get dropped at the end of the sequence
I thought I had reached a realization, guess not.
I'd skip it and probably wouldn't have any trouble, but it's what my character would do.

>>381507447
All mutagen puzzles are not born equal, some are just harder than the others. That being said, to this day I a haven't seen any that was too difficult to be worth the trouble.

So just keep trying, you can do it.

>load up my save
>I've no idea where I am, and there's no maps

>>381509483
Post a screenshot, I'll tell you where you are.

>>381509602
thanks, but I sorted myself out. I was northeast a way from the platform at SGS

>>381510328
Don't worry, by the time you finish the game you'll know these routes like the back of your hand.

>>381494736
Underrail is good but it has a much more pronounced combat-focus than the two Fallout games - so depending on what kind of RPG you're looking for this might not be your cup of tea. However, Underrail has better combat so it feels much less tedious.

>>381503021

there is a third option, you can be a Muscle wizard and punch shit with your mind

>>381512546
Psi monks can still specialize though. It's less important for them since they don't build around one of these two feat paths, but it can still give nice bonuses.

>don't use psi shit
>amass psi boosters and shit to make psi boosters
>nobody wants to buy it

lotta replay value? and does anyone know how well it performs with the steam controller? i've been wanting to lounge about and play something with the pace of fallout 1 and 2

>>381503008
>psi puncher
>my gun is power fist
PUNCH ROBOTS

tips for a Psi + Stealth build?

I bought this some time ago but never played it, should I start now or wait for the DLC?

>>381513367
alot of grenades

>>381513246
>lotta replay value?
Yup.

>and does anyone know how well it performs with the steam controller?

No clue, but my guess is not well. This game gives plenty of ways to navigate inventories, recharge things, etc, but the most comfortable is using the keyboard shortcuts. And there are many, many of them.

By the way it doesn't really have the same pace as the Fallouts. It requires some investment of your time and attention, so this isn't a game that you can play casually. If you are looking for something to occupy for a long time, you've found the right game.

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>>381499858
>having a hard time at that bandit occupied outpost early into the game
>squishy stealth trapper so every basic grunt has superior durability and damage output, roughly five of them in the same room
>cornered in an apartment facing the main hallway, four of them bunched up outside
>throw a bag of caltrops on the floor, a net over their leader, then a molotov covering all of them

>>381513367
Use stealth to scout and initiate combat. Remember that different abilities emit different amount of noise. So for example if you are telepathically giving someone a stroke that's going to be completely silent. But if you make someone explode in a fiery inferno that isn't going to go unnoticed in a more populated area. And try to learn and familiarize yourself with as many of the psi spells as you can at the start. They are all going to be useful in different situations. Mental stuff bypasses armor but only works on things with a brain, electric spells work amazingly against robots, stuff like that. You can learn two of the first level spells for free, you only have to pay for the third one.