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How come everyone gives Guilty Gear alot of praise but I never hear anything about Blazblue? Also who are your mains?
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Because you're not in blazblue circles.
Also nobody on /v/ cares about fighting games.
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>The Innocent Gear...
>mostly naked with nothing but a strap holding her boobs from spewing out.

Logic.
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>>381485054
know of any circles? I like GG and want to give BB a chance.
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>>381484826
Because BB is garbage, and GG isn't.
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Because Blazblue embraces the kind of anime tropes that normalfags are too embarrassed to enjoy and Guilty Gear embraces anime tropes that have been popular in the West for years.
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>>381485160
Honestly, the closest thing I can point you to is the OP of the blazblue general. There's usually a discord link to get you started in finding players.
The general idea seems to be that the series is slowing down a bit, but it's not slipped into the pitfalls other certain long running games have yet, nor has it gotten as bad as calamity trigger again.

Sorry I couldn't be much help, but I hope you find what you're looking for.
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>>381485528
sounds good I'll check it out. I've only been on vg once for the ffxiv thread and that almost gave me cancer
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>>381485831
Yeah, I just go in for the useful shit in the OPs and take off. I think xiv might be one of the worst.
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>>381484826
Because the original version of blazblue was extremely, almost legendarily bad despite also having an insane amount of hype behind it.

The later games were pretty dumb too, and the series has a way different/more annoying lore/single player mode than guilty gear, but it's really calamity trigger having so much backlash against it that made people write off the entire series for life.
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>>381485135
To be fair, she's essentially an 18 year old girl with the world sense of a 3 year old. And her only father figure for a few years of that was pic related. Can't really blame her.
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how is the gameplay different from GG?

I hear it has some good sniffs but I don't really like full 2D graphics desu
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>>381486979
From what I've seen GG is more fast paced and has shorter combos that do a lot of damage while BB has longer combos
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>>381484826
Get your shit weeaboo wanna be fighter outta here. We dont need your shit in the fgc
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>>381486979
the system mechanics and controls are heavily different in large and subtle ways (you get meter just for running towards someone in GG, but not in BB)

GG is a bit faster (compare the frame data on ragna and sol, despite having very similar moves ragnas stuff is alll a bit slower)

BB is more combo heavy, or at the very least they're longer.

BB characters are designed differently from GG characters on a pretty fundamental level because of the drive system, lots of them have a gameplan that boils down to "use your drive and win"
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>>381487557
>#1 game is Shit Flinger V, complete with bad wannabe anime campaign and manga-style story mode
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>>381487557
anime is taking over when DBF comes out
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>>381486979
A lot more meters to keep track of.

Since we're talking other games, anyone here like Arcana Heart 3? I got it on a very obvious whim and the game is actually fun as fuck on a beginner's level.
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Any other anime fighting games you guys recommend? bonus points if its on steam.
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>>381487724
>>381487781
Keep fapping to your anime waifus faggots theyre not real
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can I get a quickrundown on dead or alive and blazblue CP?
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>>381488390
DOA is a shitter tekken with better waifus
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Which game should I buy to get in to fighting games? I've heard great things about guilty gear, but there seem to be like 40 editions and DLC on steam and I don't know what to buy...
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>>381486702
was, she's like 7 or something now
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Do we have any more info?
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>>381489017
If you want Guilty Gear there's Accent Core Plus R, which is the final revision of X (which is the one before Xrd, the current game), and Revelator 2, which is the newest version of Xrd. If you're buying Xrd on Steam, there's an all in one bundle with Revelator, Rev2 and the DLC characters, without the rest of the DLC that's basically customs and system voices.
There's also Blazblue Centralfiction, which is basically the one to get, as it's the last one and there is no Extend edition coming out. Last time I checked the bundle with all the games is even cheaper than CF by itself.
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>>381485054
I do though
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>>381487864
I love AC3, I played some of it on ps3 its impossible to find people to play with. I want to play love maxx but its beyond dead.

Were they coming out with a new version sometime?
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>>381490794
Probably not? Creator died recently.
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>>381490424
So blazblue is dead?
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>>381485437
This

>>381485460
And this

I played BB for the first few iterations. The last one I played was when Azreal was introduced, and maybe one update after. All the characters since them have had absolute garbage. Garbage designs started with Platinum, but they just kept getting worse and worse. Everyone new has been so generic and uninspired looking, even more so than before.
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>>381484826
how often did you hear about guilty gear before Xrd? Yes pretty much never

it only became relevant because of the new pretty graphics. In fact the gameplay is really watered down compared to previous entries
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>>381491404
>>381491563
Now I'm so confused which to buy, they are both like $40...
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>>381487996
There's a bunch of them on Steam, pretty much all of the games mentioned ITT, even stuff like Vanguard Princess, Nitroplus and Koihime Enbu. UNIEL and Melty Blood are good (but the non-Steam Melty is recommended).
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>>381491018
>>381491018
It's at evo this year

it's just old and the PC release was shit
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>>381484826
Because its play Izayoi or lose
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>>381492027
don't get me wrong, I don't think Xrd is garbage or anything. It's a solid game, but worse than previous entries imo, and known more for its graphics than the actual gameplay

honestly both BB and GG are anime af. Lots of GGfags claim otherwise because they're trying to fit in "muh FGC", but many of the character designs there are just awful really (and sure BB does have great and terrible designs fwiw)

if possible, try both games and decide for yourself. Both franchises are worth playing
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>>381484826
just picked up guilty gear the other day, still trying to figure out what im doing but im dandy as fuck and ive gotten at least a combo down for slayer

but how the fuck do i play answer he seems super gimmicky and all about setups but god damn hes fun
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>>381492652
Are there any demos? Or just pirate?
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>>381490794
There was this earlier this year.
http://prefundia.com/projects/view/arcanaheart3_lmsss/12340/
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>>381492027
The gameplay of the new Xrd is watered down compared to previous games, but its the same with every fighting game sequel that has come out since the resurrection of fighting games. However, Xrd has done it better than most in keeping the game still very difficult and rewarding for high level players.

Blaz is just garbage all around. Its like an extra watered down version of GG, but with the added bonus of horrible boring character designs.
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>>381484826
whynotboth.jpg

Faust main here, on BB I used to main Bang but I have unfortunately embraced the unga and now Azrael is my main
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>>381493058
I believe there's a pack on steam with all BB games (including the newest one) for 29,99. Useful if you care about the story (the plot is awful imo, but some people like it idk)

haven't checked GG, but I don't think revelator should be so expensive atm, but not sure

if you're on PS3/4, I assume used copies should be cheap right now
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>>381493589
Hmm, it's still pretty expensive in Canada, but I might be able to swing it.
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>>381493041
Use your strong normals to scare them into a command grab.

You can work with some scrolls if they give you space, otherwise you can pull them out during counter hut or rc combos.

I haven't really gotten him down yet personally, but got destroyed by an answer who knew what he was doing.
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>>381493589
How the hell do I buy the bundle if I already own one of the games
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>>381485135
Nudity is innocent you dumb shit.>>381485160
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>>381495082
I don't think you can

blame gaben
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>>381486652
Why did CT get backlash? What made it bad? Why was it so hyped?
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>>381495459
It looks like I can remove a game from my library... hmm
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will revelator go on sale for any cheaper than it currently is. i want to buy it during the summer sale.
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>>381485135
>Implying this isn't demonic succubus that corrupted good Christian boy Ky.
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>>381495652
whatever price it is right now will stay for the entire summer sale
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>>381484826
I regret playing Blazblue's story mode so I just focused on Hazama and Terumi

>>381487864
I liked it for a bit. Played Saki, Meifang, and Kamui a lot

Anyone picking up UNISt? Promo video dropped today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDL1qi4C9As&t=1s
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>>381493041
With answer you knock down your oponents and place scrolls while using a lot of mind games, his grab mixup is also really effevtive
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>Started with Xrd
>Decide to go back and try out +R.
>Now have to wait for all these characters to be back.
I should have just stayed ignorant.
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>>381495652
Rev2 is the newest version though
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>>381484826
>How come everyone gives Guilty Gear alot of praise but I never hear anything about Blazblue
Because blaz is too anime for westerners, it's actually the more popular game in japan.

>Also who are your mains?
Noel in blazblue, Millia in gg
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>>381495652
Price don't change anymore, refunds killed big sales
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>>381497561
How do I play with them though
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>>381492168
They fixed basically all the problems with the port though
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>>381484826
I like it. I don't see why people can't just play both.

>>381496794
I will, it looks fun and Melty Blood was fun.
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GG has more western credibility for some reasons. First of all, it's a legacy franchise that's had a place in the FGC for really long. Second of all, BB had a really hard time in its first release. CT was godawful in terms of gameplay, making its status as "spiritual successor to GG" not really stand up all that well. It improved in CS, but it was still pretty much a shallow GG clone at that point.
In CP, they decided to just say fuck it and give the game its own identity, and it paid off. Now the gameplay is better than ever, and it has enough unique system mechanics that it plays extremely differently from GG. I wrote up a comparison between the two if you want to check it out.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380419743/#380422863
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/380419743/#380422898

I don't really play GG anymore, when I did I mained Slayer. The game isn't all that fun to me, but I can still see why people like it. BB is currently my favorite game. It's not flawless by any means, but there's no other game that's as satisfying to both play and practice in. I main Mu-12.
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>>381495580
The balance was tremendously bad, as in, you could realistically only play 3 characters if you wanted to play competitively at all. People complain about balance nowadays too, but those people really didn't experience shit like CT. The gameplay was also both slow and combo-heavy, making games pretty long. There were mechanics that just seemed archaic that got changed in later versions as well.
The reason it was so hyped was because GG had been dead forever and seemed like it had no chance of coming back, and it was the 10th anniversiary for the franchise. BB was originally meant to be a successor to it, but over time it became more popular than GG. However, at release, those who liked GG really had good reasons for not wanting to accept BB.
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>>381500119
Which one is better for a noob?

I find the characters in BB so attractive, but I don't know if it's approachable, people say GG is simpler...
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>>381500840
would also like to know this
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>>381500840
GG is pretty easy to get into mainly because of being pretty "standard" in its approach. BB can be alot more wild even at lower level of play, but I don't think that's really a problem. It's around mid to high-level where you end up getting fucked if you don't have matchup knowledge, before that you can get away just by practicing your own character and focusing on that. GG has a better training mode if you haven't played fighting games before, but BB challenge mode personally I find better since the combos are more categorized by difficulty, so it gives you a good point to start rather than just trying out the optimal stuff.
If you want to try BB, then do it. No fighting game is "super easy", especially not BB or GG (relative to other fighting games). If you find BB more appealing, then you should get that.
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>>381501167
If I want to get GG, which do I get, there are like 15 on steam and I want to get one with a community.
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>>381501272
newest GG is Revelator 2
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>>381501272
For BB, get BBCF
For GG, get Rev2. If you're on PC, that means getting Revelator and then upgrading to Rev2.
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>>381501427
BBCF has a lot of complaints in the reviews... is that just the usual autists or is there an issue with it?
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>>381501516
If you're talking about the Steam version, there are 2 reasons for that. First of all, the PC release had alot of bugs and graphical glitches, but they finally got completely worked out recently so that's a non-issue now. Second is people complaining about there being no dub. I wish I was joking.
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>>381501620
This is going to sound like a really dumb question, but how about something like skullgirls as an intro fighter?

It looks like I have it in my steam library already...
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>>381501516
the pc version of BBCF had quite a few problems at launch

it's been patched multiple times since then, and the port is great now tbqh
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>>381501824
I honestly have no clue, I know it's similar to Marvel but that's about it. It's usually put alongside Revelator as having the best tutorial, though I've never played it myself. Also has quality of life stuff like actually having a hitbox viewer in-game.
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>>381501875
Whelp, looks like I know what I'm getting at some point this sale at least.
>>381501946
Hmm, maybe I'll check that out too.

Honestly the characters were so unappealing I didn't even try it before.
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if i made a Rev 2 lobby (on PS4, east coast) how many of you fuckers would join

i feel like in every guilty gear thread that i ever see on /v/, it's always waifuposting and no one actually playing the game
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>>381502186
you should know that no one on /v/ plays any video games
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is Zappa out yet?
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How come everyone gives Guilty Gear a lot of praise but nobody plays the fucking game?
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>>381502282
After Anji and ABA.
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>>381502347
because most people only know about it because of the graphics (which do look great)

95% of the /v/ population goes "HURR DURR GG GOOD BB BAD" without having ever played either franchise
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>>381502347
lobby's up
pass is:E315t13erF314F3F!fve
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>>381502186
>>381502246
>>381502347
>>381502571
i'm fuckin serious m8s

i want to play this game with /v/

i don't care how shit you are, how shitty your connection is, i don't care if you're machaboo and you'll beat me 100 games straight without losing a round
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>>381485460
I don't know what you're talking about. I've seen normalfags refuse to play both games purely off their weab character designs, but are looking forward to the new DBZ fighter and like Street Fighter.
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>>381502347
People are waiting for their characters to be added into the game.
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>>381502983
make your lobby right now and I will join

put in the ID, whatever I have to search by
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>>381503060
I can't wait for all these retards to drop DBFZ because it's too hard for them
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>>381503135
Room is up

Room name is /v/

ID is 5wqv
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>>381502983
I'll play if you can do this combo
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>>381503392
heck yea boi
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>>381487864
most underrated fighting game ever
find the discord sometime, there's a lot of active players
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>>381503392
It's giving me an error " cannot join because you do not meet the host's connection standard."

good job.
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>>381503392
Is this PC or PS4, or does it not matter?
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>>381503557
ok

it might take me a few tries but i could probably do it

>>381503865
OKAY FINE

NEW ROOM CODE IS i3xi

CAN'T WAIT FOR THEM 0 BAR CONNECTIONS

>>381503890
PS4
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>>381504126
>worried about connection when its fine
>talks as if he's a bad player
>never drops a slayer combo
>knows all of the fundamentals

here i thought i was going to fight someone actually mediocre instead its another slayer thats been playing since early sign.
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>>381503890
>does it not matter?
if only. gg really needs crossplay.
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>>381504126
THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE OTHER THAN MYSELF IN A /v/ ROOM

WHAT ALTERNATE TIMELINE IS THIS
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>>381505475
Yeah, it would help. I'll probably help post PC lobbies after I get Rev 2 from the Steam sale. Any little bit helps.
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>>381504126
I only have Xrd Sign on pc can I still play?
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>>381505684
I'm always down for fun times with GG.

but I'm also shit with potemkin
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>>381505684
>2(3)/39 posters

Hmmmmmmmm
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>>381504126
Man i would but i just got off after playing 2 hours.

Nice to see someone actually make a room though.
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Why do people call tekken niche
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>>381505395
man i'm just really happy that for once there are people on this board who are willing to play the game instead of shitpost about it or whatever

like seriously i just wanted to play with people from /v/ and i wasn't sure if that would ever happen given the usual track record of these threads

>>381505850
sorry dude i wish you could, but you would need to own Rev 2 to play with us right now. and also it's on PS4 and not PC. but maybe we could start a PC lobby too, i just use PS4 more so that's what i went with
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someone make a guilty gear lobby on PC right NOW!
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>>381506496
I can make one in Accent Core if you want
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>>381506496
HAIL2U!
East Coast PC
Room Code: pvan
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>>381506426
sorry, moving over to PC room.

as soon as you picked sol i lost interest anyway, too unga to deal with atm
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>>381506052
Think it might be due to fewer people playing it competitively, and generally people don't watch it either. As a franchise it's pretty popular, and sells well, although I think they screwed up by not bringing it to PS4 sooner as a lot of the hype died down between the unveil and release.
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>>381506946
>its ANOTHER case of someone putting a limit on connection bars

did you guys ever think that this is why you don't get players in your lobbies when you post them?
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How can you download Rev2 on PC if you already got the original Rev ?
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woops forgot which button I mapped to rc.
my b
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>>381507080
oh okay

i'm just jumping around from character to character, i was actually gonna switch after this last match
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>>381507286
Buy the Revelator 2 upgrade in the DLC section for Revelator.
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>>381507238
Oops let me fix that
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>>381507286
go to the steam store page

look under all of the DLC

the option to upgrade is right there
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PC East Coast
ID: mue0
No connection restrictions
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>>381500519
I keep meaning to try the newer Blazblue games since I hear they're better than Calamity Trigger but memories of the first title really hold me off.
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>>381507702
CT and CF don't really play the same at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVTobvCzy4I
Watch this if you want, it's a good match. You can see how the game speed and mechanics have changed alot.
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oh shoot i recognize you herrborja

i didn't know you were a /v/ shitter like me
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Thinking about picking up a fightstick and moving from pad. Was going to gt the T.E.2 but shits to expensive. Leaning towards the razer panthera or the Hori R.A.P 4 What do ya'll use?
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Any of you boyos got any tips for improving with potemkin?
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>>381501167
WIld play is much easier to blow up in BB thanks to system mechanics like ODR.
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>>381501272
The one that's like 42 euro or $45 with Revelator (Character DLC) + Revelator 2 (no optional DLC)
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>>381507936
yeah I play like a brute, sorry for my scrub pot that only do pot buster
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Guilty Gear is fun and the plot makes some sense.

Blazblue is Kingdom Hearts levels of cringe-confusion, and the characters aren't as interesting.
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>>381508064
I use a HRAPV, it works fine for me

the TE and panthera are easier to mod than the HRAPs if you're into that. But they're all good sticks out of the box
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>>381508647
I'm amazed that they managed to make the Guilty Gear plot work between all of the bullshit that comes together in it.
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>>381508674
>HRAPV
what is that
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>>381507492
>>381507532
thx dudes
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>>381508647
Personally I feel the opposite. GG characters are incredibly boring to me, and BB I really had no issue understanding. It's incredibly exaggerated how confusing it is.
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Guilty Gear's dub is slightly less shit than BlazBlue's.

Don't get me wrong, they're both trash, but Guilty Gear's is somewhat tolerable.
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>>381508790
pic from google
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Guilty Gear is the king of anime games, BB is really good too but i feel like it lacks something GG had
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>>381509042
BB lacks nice graphics to attract normies like Xrd
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>>381509095
I liked Accent Core way better than Xrd
AC+R > GGXrdR2 > BB games
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>>381509042
I don't like the combo and drive mechanics with timers that BB has. The matchups are a little crazy too. BB got way too crazy for me with every edition.
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>>381508914
Neither has a dub anymore
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>>381509042
GG is bigger in the west only, in Japan BB it's the opposite.
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>>381509181
I prefer the gameplay of +R too

it's just that shiny new graphics made GG popular to a larger audience, something BB lacks
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>>381509181
I liked +R alot, but I wasn't an avid player or anything. Still prefer BB over it, but I enjoy +R more than Xrd.
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What kind of guys do you follow for GG/BB vids similar to Aris? I can find daily match videos but I want a personality that can grind the game with me.
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I doubt BB is going to get 3d graphics soon if ever
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>>381508756
The story itself is usually quite focused. But it has a lot of details and side stories for those interested. I really like the world GG has built.
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>>381509260
True, but Guilty Gear had a legit reason for that. They said that Revelator was receiving on-going updates and that they didn't want to dub it unless it was completely finished. BlazBlue stopped getting dubbed simply because they didn't want to, in order to save money. People wanted both dubs, but Aksys was genuinely surprised that people were upset over Rev not getting a dub, so they left the option on the table for a later release.
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Anime fighters need to get more popular
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>>381509735
>BlazBlue stopped getting dubbed simply because they didn't want to, in order to save money
Except that wasn't the case. It was because they would have had to delay the release by another 6 months to actually have time to dub it, so they decided not to.
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>>381509586
GG is a much more personally developmental game and practice along with matches. I don't know any eng or jp players to watch. I much prefer no personality and just watching match uploads or jonio/mikado. There's shinkensou for some analysis in english but no personalities like aris for any other fighter https://www.youtube.com/user/ShinKensou/videos
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>>381484826
because blazblue is like a 10 year old game getting updated and guilty gear is like 2 year old or less?

i love both. i just play blazblue on pc though because guilty gears business model is retarded.
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CT has some legitimately stupid stupid stupid mechanics to it. Besides for it being very slow some fabulously annoying things about it includes Jin's ice. Back then you had to shake the stick in order to get out of Jins eyes quickly. The problem is that there were times where the ice would break while you were pressing forward, making you in capable of blocking, and leaving you open to resets which ended with you stuck in ice yet again.

The next thing is Arakune. You think he's bad now? Back then there was no curse build up. If he touched you with drive you were cursed and that was just it. Some attacks could even curse you on block. And the bugs were different too although I think the bugs now are worse than the bugs then.

Now let's talk about Rachel and guard Libra. Now back then there was a kind of tug of war between the attacker and the defender. If you block for too long the guard libra would move on your side until your guard gauge ran out and your guard was broken. Which leads me to Rachel. Rachel's wind was constantly regenerating and George had no recharge time, which meant that she could keep pressuring non-stop. You'd sit there and block until Rachel broke your guard, she'd get her damaged, you'd be forced to block George, and then the cycle would start again. She was second only to Nu 13 because then characters didn't really have the means to get around her projectiles. So no one could catch her. Tager versus Nu was one of the saddest most miserable matchups in fighting games.

Oh and let's not forget how bursting put you in danger status and that the lower your barrier was the longer it took for the birds to actually come out making it easier to bait. And that the more you needed Burst the less effective it was.

Over time ASW try to fix these problems but as time passed people stop caring. At least until Chrono phantasma but then you have the problem of the bad character designs
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>>381509586
Jiyuna
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>>381503392
>Slayer without facial hair
What the fuck
I'm speechless
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I fucking loved Slayers dub voice. They do need to get back to work on the GG dub.
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Is it a bad idea to main Susano'o in BBCF? He's been so damn fun to play with
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>>381500840
>>381501069
Rev/2 is pretty easy for a noob since it has stylish mode. Sans-stylish mode, BB is easier for a noob. I can't play real GG for shit, but BB isn't too bad.
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Will I get anywhere playing rev 2 with a pad
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>>381510327
he's among the weakest characters in the game

but there's nothing wrong with sticking with him if you like the character
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>>381510327
Susanoo is sad. If you like him then play him but there's a reason why he's considered one of the worst characters in the game. Susanoo have to spend the entire first half of the match building up to be a good character. Meanwhile other characters start out good and stay good if not get better. Susanoo basically has to fight against himself and the opponent.
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>>381510327
He sort of falls apart at higher level, he can't keep up pressure very well. If you're just playing casually then it's fine.
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>>381508647
>Blazblue is Kingdom Hearts levels of cringe-confusion
So it isn't confusing at all? Gotcha.
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>>381510479
He definitely doesn't feel weak in a match, but I guess I'm just used to low tier characters. Somehow I end up picking them often, not by conscious choice though.

>>381510493
This makes sense, but I guess I've just played against mostly shitters. I haven't had too much trouble unlocking most of his tools, and by then their health is more than 50% gone

>>381510515
Really?? That's surprising, pressure with him has been my biggest strength in matches, people tend to fall apart not blocking the mixups.
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>>381510839
He has strong normals, really strong ones, but his dash has really high startup, making it so it's easier to reset to neutral against him since you don't need to block as much.
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>>381510810
Shut the fuck up.
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>*sonic sabers you*
I wish I could get gud with Izayoi

playing Tsubaki in the meantime since she's way easier
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How do I get consistent with Baiken's loops? Almost everytime it drops before I can do the instant air dash.
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Am I correct in assuming that a lot of the low tier BB character are low tier because their tools and moveset design itself is weak since BB is very character specific? I've heard Bullet suffers from this. Also can someone explain why Kagura is apparently so bad?
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>>381511089
Well it isn't. Its only confusing if you ignore things in favor of going on and on about how confusing it is. I will give you time travel though because I forgot how that worked.
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>>381511524
That's the idea. A lot of characters fall into either their ungodly strong or crippled. Carl is strong by Design. Yes Carl has stumpy limbs and no real reversal but he also has a moving wall that can hit you. Unless you break Nirvana's kneecaps Carl is always going to be a threat. Same thing with litchi. Litchi either has quarter screen normals or has her staff which not only improves her Mobility but can also reach out and hit you or protect her. She's a good character because her design gives her lots of options. Compare her to someone like Bullet. Bullet is a strike grappler and has a homing dash but she's vulnerable whenever she uses those things. She also has depressingly short range and has to build up towards being semi dangerous. It's always a uphill battle for Bullet unless ASW gives her some crazy tool that no one would be able to deal with. Both Carl and Litchi have burst safe strings and tech roll coverage. Bullet just has to make hard reads and if she reads wrong either she has to climb the mountain to getting her offense again or she dies.
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>>381511189
Just practice a bit everyday. After a while, you will see yourself improve and it comes naturally. Don't grind one thing for hours though. Sometimes if i drop one thing too much while training, i switch to doing something else then go back to it to reset myself.

I feel like Baiken has a lot of tools and can be annoying to fight again. Maybe she isn't that bad as other claims. The only main weakness is her being squishy.

It feels difficult approaching her with her tatami gaeshi and guard cancel while she always can get a jump on you with her jump in tatami gaeshi that is very difficult to beat and her dash in that auto guard. Her guard cancel is also good on countering certain pressure and always a threat. I play Ky and a baiken who train to consistently guard cancel 2nd hit of Ky's 6H is extremely annoying
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>>381511524
Bullet is the only low-tier character that's really "bad by design". All the other low-tiers in CF have been good in one or more versions, except Susanoo, but even he doesn't need massive changes to be shifted into becoming at least decent.
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>>381511524
Kagura is bad because they tried to make him stronger in neutral, and in return gutting his damage. As a result, he still has shit neutral (but less bad than before), and no strengths.
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>>381512368
Susanoo just needs to be allowed to keep his unlocks between rounds and have the delay taken off his run. That alone would make him low mid tier.
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I'm playing through the tutorial of the last blazblue (Chronophantasma Extend, it seems I already had it) and damn there are a lot of things to keep track of.

If I figure out how to fight in this, can I transfer those skills to the new one?
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>>381512559
Yes. I think the one new thing you have to keep track of in central fiction is the addition of exceed accel. Which is really just a meterless super.
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>>381512559
yes, you'll be fine
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Do I have to be obese, Korean or black to be good at fighting games
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>Susano'o

https://youtu.be/jyupYz81sl4
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>>381484826
>FGC praises GG, BB and all the other meme niche games
>Don't play them
>FGC spends all year hyping for Tekken
>Playerbase already dropped 50% during prime time

The FGC has always ALWAYS been a community of fake ass audiences that cant or dont want to play the games.

They just wanna feed off the hype of the few that actually do play the game.
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>>381513010
Chris G is none of those things and he's good at fighting games
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>>381513159
Fame's Susanoo is so fucking good.
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But which GG and BB have the best themes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgkh_G_DLwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ
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>>381507618
Room's closed for the night. Thank you to all who attended. Also great matches to the Baiken player. I was a bit off my game with May tonight.
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>>381513226
Guilty Gear is one thing but BlazBlue have to scrape for any sort of notoriety in the states. Also welcome to the internet where memes are currency and people can be hipster without making any commitment to what they say because anonymity.
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Should I buy GG Xrd Rev 2 or should I wait for it to go on sale?
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>>381513530
On steam? If you buy it now and it ends up going on sale you CAN refund it to buy it for cheaper.
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>>381508118

If you're having trouble closing people down due to his slow movement, try messing with YRCing I.C.P.M., the momentum from it carries over into something that works kinda like an airdash.

Make sure you're getting mileage out of his dead angle attack too.
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>>381513530

Multiplayer game are always buy as soon as you can if you are interested. Not only you want to have an active community and also an active community of new players so you can git gud with. Rev 2 has a lot of new players right now to play and that can help you a lot.
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>>381513275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UreOvO2z4Y
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>>381513530
by the time it's on sale there will be a new version or it will just be killed by Dragon Ball FighterZ

but it's fun now btw
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>>381514865
How long do you think till a new one comes out?

I'm not sure if I can afford anything but the base revelator, certainly not $50 for rev2.
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>>381513530
No. Buy it now and play it. You're not going to save much by waiting for sale anyway, guessing it won't go much below 39.99 or 35.99 and you'll be really far back on execution and game knowledge. It'd probably be around Halloween, end of November, or Christmas.
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>>381513159
>That commentary

Yeah, not everyone can be pleasant to listen to.
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>>381509586
Koogie streams sometimes, and he does a lot of help for the community answering questions, helpful advice and whatnot.
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