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>shooting yourself
>smashing a tarot card
>ripping off your mask
which was the coolest way to summon a persona?
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Pointing your finger up
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Shooting yourself
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>>381471767
"Hey Joker, do you wanna hang out tomorrow? I'm always avaliable!"
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The card shit was the only one that wasn't edgy as fuck.
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>>381471767
>taking your childish mask off like an immature poser
>ripping up a paper card
>blowing your brains out with a fucking gun
Persona 3 wins. Always.
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>>381471767
Jun Fukuyama
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Destroying the tarot card was pretty cool in 4, mostly because the variety (crushing, slicing, kicking, shooting it)
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>>381472656
this
ripping off your mask sounds cool and the awakenings are great but after that they all just pose and cover their faces, it ends up being really boring.
the other two are much more dynamic and fun
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>>381472927
They should of kept the ripping off the mask each time they summon instead of it being a one off thing.
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>>381471767
Mask=Persona is best in lore, but for gameplay animations evokers were best.
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>>381471767
Posing.
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>>381471767
Shooting yourself because it resonates with my lingering teenage edginess.
By the way, how does the mask thing fit in with P5's theme? Just because they're thieves?
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>>381471767
evokers >= tarot cards > masks

P3 is easily the best since it just looks cool as fuck.
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>>381475271
Yeah
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>>381471767
Shooting yourself. Any faggot can remove a mask or crush a card. It takes a real man to be like "fuck it, if this is what I do to me, imagine what I'll do to you"
Would you fuck with someone who shoots themselves in the head and doesn't die?

>inb4 Evokers don't have bullets.
>inb4 a giant fucking monster doesn't come out and ruin your day regardless.
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>>381475271
yeah, Persona means mask, thieves cover their faces. It makes sense.

did you know that originally P4 was supposed to use masks instead of glasses?
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>>381471767
hanging yourself
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>>381474942
This is true.
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>>381475718
>Any faggot can remove a mask
Try to do it when mask is your face
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>>381476039
Only happens the first time. Every time after that, they remove it normally.
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>>381471767
Evokers all day, that gunshot sound made each summon strike with some force.
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>>381476618
Yeah and shooting yourself in the head is only scary until you confirm it's a fake gun you're using.
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>>381472927
Face covering is pretty rad though
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>>381476874
delete this
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Evokers may be edgy but they're thematically perfect. I wish the animations for using them made more sense, however.

Card Crushing makes no sense thematically and it was jacked from P3 and Elizabeth. However, it's the coolest in action scenes.

Mask Ripping is somewhere in between. It's not as thematically as cool as Evokers, or as cool in action as Cards, but somewhere in between.
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>>381476874
That's the whole point, though. Evokers took balls to use for the first time, and then by accepting the potential of death they were able to summon their Personae wherever.
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>>381474942
Could this be a...?
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How do you think the next Persona game will pull off the summoning?

I like to think its some kind of coin flip and the equivalent of the meta verse is like The Upside Down which has this cool animation where the world around them flips on its head into another universe. Hence Flipping reality.

Hire me pls.
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>>381477620
>However, it's the coolest in action scenes.
Not when Yosuke, Chie and Kanji's animations exist
If I'm being honest Narukami is the only one that doesn't look retarded doing it, but that has more to do with how Naoto literally cannot be taken seriously ever more than what her's was like
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Summoning Jutsu>>>EVERY form of summoning in any form of entertainment
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>>381478420
They have to commit sudoku.
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>>381472927
I like Ann's posing a lot
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>>381477620
I disagree. A Persona is essentially a person acting differently to get through different situations. Some people have work personas and what not. I would say ripping of a mask to reveal it is a persona is far closer to being thematically perfect than fake shooting yourself to kill off your true self.

Both are great though.
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>>381478514
The thing is that literally all of them have party members that look dumb utilizing them. Akihiko's method is still hilarious.

However, Narukami, Margaret, and Elizabeth make it look fucking cool.
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My favorite is how this guy did it in P1. All he does is stoically nod his head for a second and that is all he fucking needs to do.
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>>381479264
It's pretty similar to that scene where Tatsuya pulls off his own face.
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>>381471767
Masks are best way to summon as you don't need to use your hands so you can do other stuff while summoning.
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>>381471767
The last few party members in 5 didn't even rip their masks off the first time
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>>381474619
>Mask=Persona
Way to on the nose for my liking.
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>>381479447
>tfw his theme in EP is a remix of Deadline
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>>381479264
I was mostly speaking about thematically in relation to their game's theme. P3 is all about accepting death. So is their method of summoning.

I feel like P5's method of summoning your Persona is closest to symbolically representing the concept of Personae. You're right there.
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>>381479683
Futaba has a P4 style awakening pretty much.
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>>381471767

I like the way Adachi does it

no gimmick, no tool, he just does it
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>>381471767
Anyone else think the ending of persona 5 was waaaaaay to 'big' or 'epic' for the build up?

Felt kind of off, it ramped up way to quickly imo.
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>>381480261
P4 had them deny that their shadows were part of them. Futaba was just like "Oh. Yeah, cool."

Which makes the concept of Shadows throughout the franchise even more confusing. In P2, they're entirety separate entities which even generate their own Persona. In P4, they're formed by the feelings that you deny, and they ARE your Persona. In P5, they're either you just wearing a funny hat (palace rulers) or cool guys (Futaba).
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>>381471767
Worked for the atmospheres and themes tackled.
Shooting for coping with loss/death: the game
Rotating tarot cards for dark parts of your self are still your self
Masks for crashing this palace with no survivors
Wonder what p6 will have.
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>>381480517
Agreed. It was a scene from Gurren Lagann.
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Shooting yourself in the head is pretty sick. It looked a little goofy in-game though.
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>>381479727
Aside from his badass summoning animation, Kandori really wasn't that interesting to me in P1. But then in 2, they made him really cool. But maybe it was because of how generic he was in 1 that made him cool in 2. He becomes this meta guy who realizes he was always just a pawn playing a role for a higher power but he goes along with it since he believes he is too far gone to change himself. Best human antagonist in Persona.
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>>381471767
Crushing cards > Shooting yourself > Removing a mask

Although my favourite is when Minato literally falls backwards during the shooting when he gets a critical.
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>>381480883
>P4 had them deny that their shadows were part of them. Futaba was just like "Oh. Yeah, cool."
Futaba was denying truth, not a part of herself. Her entire arc was one big call back to P4, with you even having to ask people around her house for clues about her.
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>>381481184
Summoning two Persona at once for a Fusion Spell seems tough.
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>>381480986
but gurren laggan whole theme is that ramp up.

Persona 5 goes from some kids fucking around to them pretty much destroying and reshaping all of reality.

it doesn't really fit in with the game at all.

The whole 7 deadly sins in the game feels pretty forced (each dungeon is a sin) but there's no point for it to be in the game.

The game does some pretty good stuff on modern societal commentary and social media, but the whole stuff on 'reality' is pretty much never referenced until the last hours of the game.
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>>381481265
But then that's not P4. P4 had the Shadows be a part of the person, the part that they were denying existing. Then when they accepted them, the Shadow became their Persona, the part of them that they show to the world.

Futaba was denying the truth, but her Shadow wasn't a part of her that she was repressing because she was ashamed of it. Her Shadow was just something that existed to help her realize the truth, a far cry from P4 or P2's interpretations.
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>>381481184
>>381481429
the fusion spell animation minato does is fucking GOAT
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>>381482052
That was the wrong resolution of that photo.
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>>381481184
>>381482176
>Minato

His name's Makoto now.
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Shooting yourself in the head was cool because it was before the whole edgy thing became a meme.
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>>381482443
oh fuck
I unironically always call him Makoto, the other anon made me say minato.
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>>381482443
Who the fuck even knows what his name is. Atlus will never ever give us a straight answer like they did with Souji Seta and Yu Narukami.

I prefer Makoto because it's gender neutral, though.
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>>381471767
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>>381482798
The opening of that movie was some kino shit
>tfw you burn your dread
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>>381478420
Injection
Coin Toss
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>coin toss
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>>381471767

I'd go with 'shooting yourself.' It anchored me to the reality that I should shoot myself for being a 28 year old lose playing a HS dating sim game.
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>>381482798
Are the persona 3 movies good? And are they dubbed or subbed?
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>>381483505
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My uncle works at Atlus and he told me to go fuck myself.

He also told me that the next persona awakening is done by ripping off your own skin
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When I first saw that Personas were masks, and fusing them made it say "New Mask", I thought some personas would have unique masks, but they didn't which was disappointing.
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>>381483581

Prove it
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>>381483581
>Ripping the skin
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>>381483529
First movie is passable.
Second is pretty good. Everything about Shinji and his death is great.
Third is pretty mediocre.
Fourth is as horribly boring as you'd expect a movie about that one month in the game where nothing happens would be. The Nyx confrontation is MC vs a giant CGI monster that looks awful while the rest of the party have an uninteresting hold-the-line battle versus Shadows and the Strega fight barely happens.
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Persona 6 will be shinobi and they'll summon persona through hand signs. You'll be an outsider to a ninja village who ends up with the wild card.

Just watch.
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>>381471767
>"Guys I'm gonna need those masks back after this picture"
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The fusion spell summons in P3 were the coolest.
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>>381483962
To be fair to the 4th movie, I thought they did a really good job setting up how depressed everyone was in the last month, moreso than the games.. Yukari's panic attack, Junpei wandering into random fights, and stuff like that. Topped off by all of them finding their resolve.

Those and the rooftop scenes were the best moments in the 4th movie.
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>>381471767
The card isn't edgy or violent, plus it's quick and doesn't rely on any apparatus other than the Persona card itself.
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>>381471767
Mask>Gun>>>>>>>>Smashing a card
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>>381481063
This, I played P2 before P1 and was kinda dissapointed that he turned out to be a lot less interesting in P1.
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>>381481447
Mementos was there since April
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>>381483581
>The next method of persona summoning
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>>381484985
It's also really boring
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>>381484102
I've seen worse ideas honestly.
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>>381485408
The masks are ones that are boring. P4 has actual different animations tied to every character.
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>>381482443
>>381482564
It's door-kun
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>>381485275
majority of the characters in P1 were pretty shit, so it isn't like he was the only one. pic related is best and biggest boy though.
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>>381483923
I heard that if you use someone else's mouth, it has increased stats.
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>>381471767
Should Persona 6 have a chill vibe like 4 with wacky social events like the dressup competition and campout, or should it be serious with the characters going straight onto the next thing to deal with like 5?
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>>381485731
it's MC just like how the P4 hero is Protag
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They're gonna go with the generic
>Look up, spread arms and yell
Like the magic attack animations from DDS and the Persona comes out of the chatacters like the MC awakening scene
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>>381471767
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>>381486069
It should have that slightly edgy and down to earth melancholy feel like in P1&2 or the end half of P3.
>The definitive "sad" theme suddenly became the theme that plays normally when you're just doing stuff
Really set the fucking mood
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>>381486087
Meant to reply to
>>381478420
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>>381485975
>Brad
No matter what he ever achieves, he'll always be remembered as the guy who shat his pants in class.
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>>381486223
Leave door-kun alone.
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>>381485365
mementos is not presented in any way as huge as 'reality itself'

it's presented as 'the public's palace' which is pretty much home to people who are evil, but not evil enough to have their own palace, but not for any good reason, because some of the requests are easily as bad as other people.

It also doesn't explain why those people wouldn't be in the final area of mementos locked away, and instead just wandering the floors.
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>>381472656
Card crushing felt pretty plain. Shooting yourself and tearing your mask off were thematically appropriate to the games they were in. Smacking a card isn't anything.
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>>381485975
I gotta say though, the part where you meet him before his boss fight with the falling petals and shit was pretty fucking sweet.
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>>381486069
It should have an atmosphere like P3s; incredibly, ridiculously flexible. P3 is able to switch between melancholy and Babe Hunt bullshit almost seamlessly.

P5 and P4 have an issue where the tone and the characters can switch to one extreme to the other rapidly.
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>>381485975
meh. Elly was a better character AND a better party member. Brown's just annoying
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>>381482052
You have to look at it this way, Futaba herself wanted to subconsciously due to her perceived guilt, whereas her Shadow ran antagonist to that idea. It's kind of an inverted version of the shadows in P4 that are clearly antagonstic, but in Futaba's case it's her subconsciousness that's antagonistic but her shadow running contrary to that is more or less helping us.
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>>381482585
It's Yu Narukami, since that's what he's called in the official spin-off games.
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>>381483962
So, are they using their Persona's like Pokemon in the movies too?
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>>381488709
Shadows are supposed to just be feelings that people repress, what lies beyond their Persona.

Futaba clearly wasn't walking around telling people she blamed herself for her mother's death. That's why she didn't tell the Thieves. It was something she kept deep inside. Her Shadow would BE the part of her that reminds her of her mother's death.
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>>381489246
Futaba is a bit weird since she also has that weird Wakaba hanging over her shoulder. I was actually wondering if all her issues caused by the dudes in the suits reading that fake letter and then the subsequent blaming was an intentional attack on her cognition to make her such a wreck.
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>>381471767
Cards was the worst

I really like the posing while pressing on the mask.

Guns was 50% the coolest shit and 50% edgy and lame depending on which character was doing it
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>>381471767
>shooting yourself
OW THE EDGE

>smashing a tarot card
Lame

>ripping off your mask
Well it is a PERSONA, I guess that makes sense.
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>>381471767
Ripping of your mask.
Because it was done in such a cool pose.
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>>381483962
>>381483529
>>381482798
Where can I stream or pirate it? Every stream has potato quality and the only torrent i can find has no seeds and would take like a week to DL.
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>>381471767
Always felt like everytime they use evoker it drain a bit of their life force.
The smashing tarot card felt like grabbing broken glass.
Ripping mask only happened during awakening, the rest they just posing.

posing is the coolest for me.
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>>381490752
TPB should have it
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>>381481063
Kandori was boring until Nanjo gives him the dressing down of the century, that moment right there pretty much made both of their characters.
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>>381479506
Sasuga Joka
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>>381484434
I miss this.
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I thought Ryuji was a shit best bro character, it should have been Yusuke
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>>381471767
Mask.
But I dig P3 protag because pic related.
>Want to kill self since nowhere to escape
>ended up summoning persona
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>>381491735
He literally says Persona before he shoots, speedplayer.
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>>381491804
It's called a joke nigger. I played fes and P3P multiple times, I know that.
You don't have to be so triggered just because I make fun of your favorite self insert for a bit.
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>>381491994
FUCK YOU ELIZABETH IS FINDIGN A WAY AS WE SPEAK
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>inb4 I only pretending to be retarded
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Who was the strongest MC?
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>P5
>Trying to romance Chihaya
>Get to Rank 8
>She asks if you like older women
>I think "Hell yeah!" is the creepy answer
>Pick Vague answer
>Locked out of best girl after 50 hours of shit tier jrpg

I've already saved over it, how do I go back, how do I do it? I don't want this awful timeline. TELL ME HOW I GO BACK!
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>>381477759
If it took balls using it then why was Yukari afraid to use it despite knowing it was fake
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>>381492840
restart the game.
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>>381491418
Does he do this throughout the game or is this just a one time thing in a scene?
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>>381492840
that wasn't the romance dialog. all romance dialogs are on rank 9
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>>381492962
Because Yukari is fucking weird.
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>>381493118
He does that if you have high proficiency.
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>>381493151
I already got rejected at rank 9 and just now realized it was my rank 8 decision that fucked me over. I need to know how to turn back fucking time now.
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>>381493158
>Because Yukari is a bitch.
ftfy
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>>381493264
This is when you meet at the hideout when it changes to your room correct?
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>>381493281
well then date kawakami then
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>>381493484
Yes.
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>>381471767
Shooting yourself.
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>>381492840
run out of time for the next dungeon so you get pushed back a week.
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sae is bae
that is all
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>>381490752
It's on kissanime for free. No need to pirate or anything
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>>381488285
This.

Everyone on /v/ keeps meming that P3 was emo angst edgyness but that only starts near the final act (Winter I think?) when Apathy Syndrome kicks into full gear. Before then it fluctuates pretty well between serious, angst, and comedy.
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>>381492796
Probably Joker, he straight up killed Yaldy, while Gas Station chick fucks off on her own and Nyx can only be sealed away
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>>381493545
I already rejected her because I wanted Chihaya.

>>381493612
This happened the day AFTER I took down Okumura. Failing next dungeon won't be of any help right?
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>>381483529
They are pretty good in my opinion at least and they are subbed only
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>>381492840
>>381493281
Procrastinate with the dungeon and fail the deadline.
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>>381493724
Joker can't kill Nyx either without destroying humanity.
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Who else hear picked what their Phantom Thief codename, costume, and persona would be?
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>>381493913
see >>381493739 exaggerated a bit but I got rank 8 a few days after stealing Okumura's treasure and rejected 1 day before his confession. Failing the next palace won't help me I'd assume.
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>>381493958
Erebus is fair game.
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>>381494049
What's wrong with you?
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>>381493958
We don't know that.
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>>381494049
are you twelve?
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>>381494163
I do, my dad works at atlus he said so.
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>>381493869
how long is each movie
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>>381494140
Can't kill Erebus without going fall Law.

>>381494163
Nyx is tied into the human consciousness thanks to moon rock fuckery. You kill her and humanity goes back to cave men.
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>>381493724
He only defeated Yabba Dabba Do because he had the support of the masses. Door-Kun only had his and his friends will to live against Nyx while actively fighting against the will of the masses. Also killing Nyx would mean death would no longer exist and Erebus would always comeback, sealing Nyx off was the only viable option
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>>381494237
>my dad works at atlus he said so.
Tell me what kind of person your dad is?
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>>381478420
what if the next persona game they had to fart to summon hahahahahahahahaha
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>>381494383
>while actively fighting against the will of the masses.
???
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>>381492796
Pretty sure it's Door w/ Universe > Piercy > Tatsuya > Maya > Joker > Narukami
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>>381494558
All of Japan, and presumably the entire world, was hit with a full onslaught of Apathy Syndrome by the time Nyx materialized. The book, and I'm pretty sure the Answer, stated that every time mankind as a whole loses the willpower to live Erebus wakes up Nyx to end the world (humanity is in a constant struggle against Nyx's Death Waves).

So in the climax of P3 the MC was literally going up against the wishes of the collective unconsciousness to die.
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>>381494558
Don't you remember the cutscene where people were ecstatic when Nyx showed up?
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>>381493612
>>381494071
So? Since this happened just after a palace I'm dead in the water right? No way to save romance/turn back time unless I start a new save/NG+ right? Please tell me I'm wrong.
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Why did Yaldy bother pitting Akira and Goro against each other for his "bet" if he was just going to manipulate the outcome and do what he wanted to anyway? It's not like he had anything to prove to anybody, he'd already removed Igor from the equation before he even started. Why didn't he just fuse the real world with Mementos from word go?
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>>381494802
>>381494862
No I understand the will of the masses.
What I don't understand was
>while actively fighting against the will of the masses
actively fighting? which part?
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>>381492796
Door-kun. He has universal power, discovered the meaning of life and according to Igor, Door-kun is the best guest he ever had, also he is Jesus. Joker is in second place, according to Lavenza he is the strongest man in the world.
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>>381494994
doesn't she say he's "the world's greatest man"?
i don't think that necessarily means strongest
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>>381494635
Meh, Universe only used for sealing Nyx. Power ise it was never confirmed to be strongest.
Now if your argument was because he can use fusion spell NOW that's different.
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>>381494994
damn thanatos is has such a cool design, just the right amount of edge.
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Why is Tatsuya such a faggot?
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>>381494994
>>381495109
Yeah. Even that I'm pretty sure "World greatest man" only applied to Lavenza.
Though he is the only person to have saved Igor.
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>>381494950
Will of Humanity wants world to end.
MC doesn't want world to end.
MC turns into a door to cockblock Erebus/Will of Humanity.
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>>381494994
Lavenza says that Joker is the world's greatest man. She's biased, though.

Igor, however, did tell Door he was the greatest guest he ever had.
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>>381495189
Because Katsuya is better in everyway.
Except his face, Tatsuya had better face since he looks exactly like me.
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>>381494943
Gods are kind of dicks?
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>>381494943
fun
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>>381495109
>the world's greatest man"
Yeah. She says Saikyou, which can be interpretative as strong or simply the best
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>>381495189
>best protag, best boy, best ultimate personer
>faggot
Listen...
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>>381495327
Yeah but that doesn't mean they ACTIVELY FIGHTING THE WILL OF MASSES like you claimed before.

You claimed before that and I quote
>Door-Kun only had his and his friends will to live against Nyx while actively fighting against the will of the masses.
As far as I know they only kill shadow in Tartarus and even that Door is the only one sealing Nyx using unverse arcana.

Can you describe it in detail which part of them actively fighting the will of masses?
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>>381495659
Nyx bringing the Fall is the will of the masses senpai
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>>381495809
See>>381494950
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>>381495645
>being the reason why Maya was almost killed on the first place
>a crazy blonde girl which is a slut is in loved with you
>Weird relationship with Jun
>your friendship is the reason a lot of people suffered
He is a faggot
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>it's "p3fanboy trying to make the sacrifice so epic they need to lie about it and cant explain their lies AND tried to divert the subject" episode
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>>381471767
>Guns
In Persona 3, characters summon their Persona by shooting themselves in the head with a gun-like device called an Evoker. In Austin, Texas, 26 children died after attempting to summon their Personas with guns.
At Highland Park Elementary, the entire 5th grade class had all received a PlayStation Portable when the educational department of Austin sponsored a contest to see what school could receive the highest test scores. All the portable devices came with a copy of Persona 3.
The police responded to a report of a mass suicide outside of the school. The entire 5th grade class, except for one student, had all appeared to have killed themselves with guns. It was discovered that they were all inspired by the events in Persona 3 and wanted to summon their Personas. Angry and saddened parents wonder where it all went wrong.
Those damn Japs with their video games and whatnot, says Ted Lomas who lost two children in the accident, I thought Sony was an American brand but I just learned that those chinks used an American-sounding name. God damn it, killing off our innocent children with their disgusting and subversive filth. Im telling all my friends to buy those Nintendo games from now on.
Atlus has responded to the event by recalling all copies of any Persona game despite Persona 3 being the only one with the gun-like Evoker. Atlus declined to comment on the story but directed people to stores participating in the recall.
The one survivor who clarified the events surrounding the accident had a copy of Persona 4 and a PlayStation Vita. I was confused, she explained, I had brought my tarot cards just like in the game but everyone else had brought a gun
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>>381495659
>Yeah but that doesn't mean they ACTIVELY FIGHTING THE WILL OF MASSES
It's like you never played the Answer.
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>>381494049
I didn't choose it but seeing the hilarious ones were super fun.
>tfw you're being robbed by the Hamburglers
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>>381496249
So you can't explained it then?
Figures.

A way of sealing Nyx is a prevention of destruction. It's pretty passive, and before the huge showdown with Nyx there's no such thing as ACTIVELY FIGHTING THE WILL OF MASSES. I know, I know you want to make Yuki so heroic, but lying about it only going to bring it down.
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>>381496123
>it's Tatsuya's fault an eldritch abomination decided to fuck with him in particular
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>>381496475
I mean it's explained in the Answer with Erebus. If you really need me to explain it then you might as well just look up the game since it goes into more detail than I will. Here's a start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP0woazrPxM
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>>381492796
Tatsuya
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>>381496695
I'm a bit sad they never used lovecraft stuff after that. I could dig Hastur as the big bad for a game. Would actually have worked pretty well P5 with the psychotic breakdowns. A modern version of King in Yellow.
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>>381496971
One day. P5 seemed to go back to the roots in more ways than one, so there's hope.
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>>381478420
I dunno why but I have a feeling it will have something to do with rings/bracelets.
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>>381492840
This is why you rotate your saves in a 100 hour game anon
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>>381497347
True. Demiurg at least had a bit of a lovecraftian feel to it.
>tfw Nodens will be a social link
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Summing it without a stupid gimmick and being able to do it anywhere including the real world.
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>>381497793
Meh, boring.
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>>381497793
They actually never state that they can't summon them in the real world. Have they ever tried?
Pretty sure Shinji summoned his outside the Dark Hour and because he couldn't control it he killed Ken's mom. I mean that would hardly happen if she was inside those coffins at the time, right?
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>>381498162
Anyone can if they're mentally strong enough. However, only Fuuka has been shown doing it on screen.
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>>381498162
They had to train for a long time to be able to summon without an evoker or being in the TV world but everyone in P1 & P2 have always been able to summon their personas anywhere and were also all able to change personas not just the MCs.
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>>381498359
I'd say by the time of their second awakenings the characters are mentally strong enough to summon them every time they want.
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>>381498530
I'd attribute that to the devs not really having worked out the whole Persona deal back then
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>>381497793
Want to talk shit, tough guy?
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>>381495356
pics?
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>>381498530
>not limited to their personal personas
>mostly use legit weapons, aside from autists like Jun and Baofu
>Tatsuya can just cut up armed soldiers without using his persona
How can SEES, IT and PT even compare?
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>>381498756
You do know the persona 1 lot fought against nyx and won
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>>381498738
It's more due to them being worked on by multiple people. P1 and P2 were more accurately based on Jungian Psychology while P3 onwards is a JoJo reference
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>>381498908
Different Nyx.

Not that it matters though since P2 cast is strongest overall.
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>>381498891
sees has mitsuru who's rich
rest can't
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>>381499246
isn't nanjo richer?
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>>381499246
>>381499364
Nanjo>Mitsuru
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>>381498891
Door-kun in one link mission got in a fight against thugs. He could break the face of Tatsuya with his fists.
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>>381496475

In the Answer we learn that humanity's collective desire to die manifested itself it a creature known as Erebus. In order for the Fall to occur Erebus has to touch Nyx, to which she then grants said wish to die. During the fight with Nyx's true form the protagonist is fighting against both the embodiment of death and humanity's desire to die (you don't really see him but it's implied in the Answer he's trying to reach Nyx as the fight is occurring).
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>>381498530
P1+2 casts got the power of Persona directly from the Phileman while he's in his weakened state in the later games
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>>381499686
Philemon didn't seem weak in that optional fight in P2 EP
He kicked my ass a good one
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>>381499364
I thought Nanjo was P1 guy.
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>>381499607
>Door-kun beats up some thugs once
>Tatsuya slaughters dozens of armed soldiers with nothing but his katana that was folded maybe a couple of times at best
Anon, please.
Besides, Tatsuya is good with his fists too.
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>>381499791
can also be a party member in P2 EP
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>>381498891
>How can SEES, IT and PT even compare?
By actually managing to save the world?
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>>381499246
>>381499364
>>381499589
Haru is also pretty rich.
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>>381492796
Giorno solos
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what happens if I make everyone my gf in Persona 5. I know there was basically no repercussions of it in P4, except Golden and valentines day but even then it's nothing. I know P3 you couldn't have more than 1 gf at a time until you maxed their social links.
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>>381499880
Please, Door-kun doesn't get scared with guns, blood, coffins and monsters. The man is cold, stoic and tougher than rock. Tatsuya is insecure and jealous of his brother.
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>>381484102
>serpant
So is he trying to summon the lord of pants or what?
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>>381499246
Not as rich as Nanjo.

I wonder what that meeting of Mitsuru meeing Nanjo to reconnect the families again went?
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>>381487154
It's not about evil, it's about delusions, desire and ambition.
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how can other personas even compete?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP2cFu6q-hQ

and yes I know this version isn't in game
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don't die yet.
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>>381472037
Fuck off Mishima, no one likes you
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>>381488296
Waifu material
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by drinking bleach
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>>381482052
What the entire fuck, Ginko is canonically a prostitute ? lmfaooooooooo
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>>381502507
I think it was compensated dating. You know going out with some dude and get pretty things in return. She also experiments with drugs.
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>>381502507
No that is the fan translation, official translation is that she did compensated dating and a fuck ton of drugs because she hated her dad and she thought she killed someone at a young age.
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>>381502507
Technically she never fucked them, so it's compensated dating.
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>>381502826
Lisa is essentially what Ann might have become if she hadn't met Shiho.
Lisa got shit for being blonde too.
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Self sucking your own dick
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>>381502786
>compensated dating.
So prostitution. I mean it's almost always meant in that way. Like in Initial D.
>>381502826
>enjo kosai and drugs
Of course there was sex
>>381502507
She is a slut.
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>>381492840
>She asks if you like older women
>I think "Hell yeah!" is the creepy answer
Anon, you have no experience romancing chicks IRL do you? Dear lord
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>>381503171
>She is a slut.
The irony being that she is pretty single mindedly pursuing Tatsuya
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>>381503094
They're stupidly close to each other, to the Engrish to all of the other bullshit.
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>Just got to the pancakes reveal in P5

MY FUCKING SIDES
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>>381502786
>>381502826
>>381503007
Oh okay, shit makes much more sense actually
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>>381503346
That's pretty much every Lovers girl, so it's not too surprising. Yuka-tan is the only one who's close to being a "slut", and that's only because according to DA MAN she's dated a bunch of boys in the three years in between 3 and Ultimax.
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>>381503408
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I played p3 4 and 5. Do I need to play p4a and p4au?
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>>381503408
Say what you want about the PTs but at least they didn't walk blindly into the twist like SEES and the Investigation team.
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>>381503820
Only P4A has anything resembling a decent plot. Ultimax is shit and arguably homoerotic.
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>>381503403
Funnily enough the martial arts expy to her is Chie of all people.
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>>381503943
But I don't wannaaaaaaa, but at the same time I want to know what happened to SEES after the Answer
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>>381503820
Just if you enjoy fighting games
You should ABSOLUTELY play P2 IS and P2 EP though, you'll gain a whole new appreciation for the series. (And for what P5 did)
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>>381503936
Considering SEES and IT weren't fighting against saturday cartoon villains I can see why.
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>>381472037
Worst confidant and best, go

Aw, who am I kidding? The worst confidant will ALWAYS be Ohya. Fucking security level? Really?
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>>381503615
Isn't Yukari in the biz?
Wouldn't that many relationships ruin her reputation?

Also Ann isn't pursuing Joker blindly.
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>>381504086
>Ken is a pretty boy who plays sports and girls want his dick
>Yukari is Pink Argus, a reference to fellow Lovers girl Lisa
>Junpei coaches a sport
>Mitsuru, Akihiko, Aigis and Fuuka form a super secret spy agency that does Jack shit
>Also Akihiko likes protein
There. That's their story.
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>>381504207
THAT SHIT WAS SO USELESS HOLY FUCK
ALSO OHYA WHAT IS UP WITH YOUR HAIRCUT, HIFUMI IS LAUGHING AT YOU RIGHT NOW
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>>381504223
DA MAN might've just been exaggerating. But it's certainly been a trend.

As for Anne... I can't tell if she's being erotic on purpose.
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>>381504189
I'll give you SEES, Ikutsuki was really out of nowhere there.
The IT mostly stumbled from one 'clue' to the other until they were literally at a stage where they were ruling out people and that just left Adachi.
I can at the very least appreciate that the twist in 5 was a different twist and that for once the heroes got to be the ones to outsmart someone. But honestly that had to happen eventually because after 4 it might as well be a tradition to have a 'dude we thought was good, but was actually evil' around.
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>>381504086
Mitsuru goes to Nanjo to form the Shadow Ops, which I bet is hilarious to him because I am pretty sure she came in thinking that he had no clue what a Persona was.

Yukari becomes a Pink ranger in a Sentai show

Akihiko becomes a world warrior and later a cop

Junpei is the ultimate Halmark movie man, as in he is coaching little league and helping the kids out with issues. Unknown if Chidori is alive, most likely dead.

Ken is a middle school student.

Fuukua is working with Kirijo

Aigis is working with the Shadow Ops.

Koromaru lives with Ken.

Door-Kun is still on that door. Elizabeth is hanging out with him and fucking around the outside world from time to time.
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>>381495645
>literally a homo for Jun
Come on.
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>>381504608
>Play though P4A
>"Holy shit is Nyarly working with Ikutsuki? It seems like their MO."
>Play through P4Ultimax
>Nope just his faggot "son" and a fuck all "god"

Fucking christ dropped the ball on something cool.
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>>381504547
I just realized that Yukari has actually become a model and has then turned to acting, being one of the Feather Rangers. So would that mean that Ann and her would eventually cross paths?
I could actualy see Ann wanting to play a villainness in such a show.

>pic
Yikes, Ann. Though why didn't they make part of the actual story scenes like Rise flirting with Yu all the time?
But then again I guess Ann has some points in her favor since she clearly is Joker's type.
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>>381494470
Fuck you, I laughed
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>>381471767
What could they have used to fit P4s theme better instead of cards?
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>>381504956
Kagutsuchi, right?
That little shit was the reason Izanami died in the first place. So it was pretty fitting that Yu gets to slap him around a little as his new stepdad.
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>>381505028
The funny thing about pic related is that Anne is actually completely oblivious. If you agree you just eat crepes with her IIRC.

As for Yuka-tan and Anne, I doubt Anne would ever actually be able to act. If anyone is meeting Yukari out of the PT it's Futaba, considering I'm pretty sure Pink Argus was one of the statues Yusuke beheaded.
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>>381505175
Magatama. I mean they went full Japanese gods in that game.
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>>381505175
Dancing.
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>>381494049
__Yes__

Mole, cheap-ass business suit with a theatre mask, Judas.

It's still autismo as fuck though.
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>>381505326
>The funny thing about pic related is that Anne is actually completely oblivious. If you agree you just eat crepes with her IIRC.
She's a bit of an airhead like that.

Ann actually improved a lot over the story, you know like the game was almost taking into account that her social link was taking place in the background. She tricked that cognition noble into thinking she was some british noble and before that she lied into the face of some politician saying that she was a member of the newspaper club of her school. That's stuff she was unable to pull off back during Yusuke's arc.
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>>381497347
>Futaba's persona is Necronomicon
>Her Palace is a pyramid
>Nyarlthotep was once a pharaoh
There are some callbacks to the old games, but I don't know if they mean anything
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>>381496253

I named mine The Raiders
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>>381478420
Cutting your wrist/palm.
Using a beyblade.
Yanking off a necklace like a noose.
Snapping your fingers.
Commuting seppuku with a sword.
Breaking your own neck.
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>>381505891
Anne trying to become like the character she was loosely based on instead of just being that character was cool.

It's a shame the actual SL was pretty shit.
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>>381503615
She wanted to forget that sweet Door's dick
shame she couldn't
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>>381504672
>>381504406
Thank you anons. Is there a visual representation of this in some summary video?
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>>381506370
To quote another Anon, it's more like when Makoto/Minato's body became a locked door, Yukari's vagina became a revolving door.
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>>381505283
I give you that but compared to what P4A was putting on the table it just came out of left field.
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>>381486024
underrated post.
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>>381506884
Holy shit I just lost so hard
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>>381503943
Is it crucial that we play P4DAN?
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>>381506094
I called mine Swiggity Swoody, because guess what? We are coming for that booty.
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>>381507129
Yes because you should want to see Naoto and Chie / Rise dancing and sweating together in their hot bikinis / maid outfits while listening to some great tunes
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>>381504406
What happened to Metis? Did she die?
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>>381506565
Watching the P4Ulitmax P3 story.
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>>381507263
I don't think she was mentioned at all.
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>>381506272
Eh I thought it was alright. Not the best but also not the worst I've seen in the franchise so far. And I prefer her scenes in the context of the story, so also the romance scenes you get with her when the story progresses in case you're in a relationship with her, much more.
The Hawaii date was really nice, and worked pretty nicely in context with how you had to spend the night with two other people in the room.
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>>381471767
It doesn't matter since P6 will have the best summoning system ever:

Fidget Spinners
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>>381507257
do i get to dance Reach Out To The Truth?
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>>381507129
Probably not. Story will almost 100% be irrelevant in later entries. The story also focuses on Rise, which would be fine if she wasn't BURCHered.
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>>381507236
Bullet Club. Tried and true.
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>>381507263
Metis is Aigis's shadow if I recall. So I guess she exists as long as Aigis is still around.

Oh another thing that I really think that fell flat was the whole Labrys and Yusuke relationship that kinda happened in P4A.
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>>381471767
>>/vg/
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>>381507421
I found the Kawakami hawaii date really great.

Same with her school festival date, christmas date, and valentines date.
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>>381507497
Obviously uwu
Jokes aside it's a fun game with some nice remixes but you have to fiddle with options so that there isn't this fucking clap each time you hit a note (in like a 500 note song this gets tiring fast)
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>>381507562
>Yusuke
>Yosuke

This is going to be a thing for a long time, isn't it?
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Puberty hit Ken hard.
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Q: Do you believe in the Phantom Thieves?
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>>381507808
just imagine how hard Door-tan would lust for him
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>>381475718
To add to this nigga, even if I was told the gun didn't shoot bullets I'd still put it fuck all near my head, it's like looking down the barrel of an unloaded gun, I know it ain't gonna kill me but I'm not tryna mess around and find out
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>>381507727
I like that those scenes are voice acted now. Makes it feel like they are part of the story and not just bonus scenes.

Makes Morgana's sad sigh when Ann comes over on valentine's all the more enjoyable
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>>381507804
Fug

I fucked up. On that note yes, yes it will be.

>>381507808
Better than him trying to bring about the 4th reich like his concept art.
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>>381507808
So. Him and Akechi are related I guess?
>>
Alright so how the fuck am I supposed to play Persona 2? I thought it was on PSP but apparently that's only one of them, so would I be stuck with essentially only half of the story?
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>>381508020
I like to think that on the night after Joker is just playing with one of Ann's panties that she left for him right in front of Morgana.
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>>381507932
>nobody will ever love bite you
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>>381507932
No.
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>>381471767

MASK OFF
MASK OFF
MASK OFF
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>>381508168
The one on PSP is Part 1. Part 2 is on PS1, if you have some form of PSN and a way to get PS one classics you can get it there. Other than that its fine.

Oh and don't hold your breath for the Part 2 PSP translation. It has been silent for two years and is most likely dead.
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>>381508201
I don't know what's better. That or the idea one anon had the other day about Ann and Joker doing it while Mishima and Ryuji were sleeping as revenge for blocking their alone time.
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>>381508285
I need that Get Fucked hat .png
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>>381508379
Why not both?
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Hopes for Persona 5: Crimson?
For me:
Female MC option
Akechi redemption storyline
Mona turns into a cute girl
Futaba usuable in combat
Mishima as a party member
Shiho stays instead of moving school and also becomes a party member
A couple new optional palaces that aren't tied to a timer. Just something to do in the metaverse in addition to mementos
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>>381508625
I like how you think anon
>>
The Phantom
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If Mishima gets Ohya pregnant, will the child carry the Devil Gene?
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>>381498891
No Persona game will ever be as hardcore as P1 ever again
>within one hour of starting the game your band of quirky highschoolers is gunning niggas down at a shady corporation's HQ with shotguns and sniper rifles
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>>381509020
>Devil confidant
>Doesn't unlock the Satan or Lucifer persona
Hmmm
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>>381508020
I'll never not romance the girl of the Lovers Arcana, and Anne is my favorite regardless, but I still feel bad for cucking Morgana.

no offense to the Harufags in the room but I wish I could make pic related canon to ease my guilt
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>>381508812
autism.
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>>381509269
Already in the game
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I want a Hifumi to go, please. Extra sauce, animal style.
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>>381509141
Lucifer is of the Star arcana because of his title: the Morningstar.
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>>381509141
Probably because both Satan and Lucifer make more sense being the ultimate Persona of their respective Arcana.
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>>381509416
How can Joker learn tactics from her when she's shit at shogi?
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>>381508812
Hifumi gets to be a PT as originally intended and Haru gets expanded upon more. Also less GO TO SLEEP from Morgana
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>>381509230
I think Morgana not getting the girl is also a valuable experience for him.
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>>381508812
Everything is good except Mishima, I want Mishima to have an option where he gets gangraped and murdered by the shady guys
Honestly fuck you Mishimafags, the only reason you enjoy the character is because you identify in this fucking asocial idiot

What probably hopefully happens is that Hifumi is included as a party member, as was originally supposed to happen before they ran out of time.

>>381509416
God bless
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>>381509506
She's still way better than any casual player.
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>>381509230
Sometimes you have to make a few sacrifices along the way
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>>381509559
Mishima should thrown from a cliff.
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>>381508812
>A couple new optional palaces that aren't tied to a timer
With the same mechanics as Marie's dungeon?
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3 just for door-kuns suck finger spins. 5's awakenings scenes were superior to 3/4, but the general summoning just felt weaker (aside from the chains, those were cool)
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>>381509559
Hifumi party member would be cool too. How would they tie her into the main story though?
Would he mom have a palace rather than just being in mementos?
I just feel bad for Mishima. He supports the PT's so much but never really gets acknowledged by them.
If not a party member it'd still be cool if he could hang out with them at the hideout.
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>>381509679
>Joker gets to see Ann with her hair down but we don't
Feels bad, man.
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Why is there no World arcana? I know you get it for beating the game but it seems like a waste. Could be reserved for final bosses of the games or something.
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I love Ann.
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Is hifumi catholci?
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>>381495165
>in greek mythos Thanatos is the son of Erebus and Nyx
like cockwork
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>>381509523
>Hifumi gets to be a PT as originally intended

This meme needs to die. Hifumi was never going to be a phantom thief. She's an early design concept for Makoto that they recycled.

Your waifu is just a beta version of Makoto. Deal with it.
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>>381509849
>Soejima mentions he regrets not having a situation where Anne has her hair down
>He says she's one of his favorite characters due to being the first designed
M-maybe in Crimson?
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>>381509780
What I like about the non party SLs this time around is that they all pretty much figure out that Joker's a phantom thief.
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>>381483962
4 was good for the lighting, my god that shit was sexy.
>that scene where they find their resolve and the sun finally comes out
But yeah 2 was the best movie.
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>>381509883
Ann is so pretty.
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>>381509780
Makoto's palace would involve the principal instead of some literally who mob guy, and Hifumi could take her place.

Also, what would her codename be? Ojou? For Personas I've heard Jeanne D'Arc into Atalanta.
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>>381509849
Feel even worse. He is doing this to her every night.
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>>381509993
She totally was, though.

Check out this article: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-hifumi-togo-main-character-other-concepts/
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>>381509993
>He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about
Hifumi's thief suit in the artbook is a pirate ala Ryuji. She's a scrapped character entirely, not Makoto.
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>>381509993
>Your waifu is just a beta version of Makoto. Deal with it.
Funny how she's got a much better SL than her final version then.
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>>381494943
He was bored.
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>>381510101
Queen obviously. She plays Shogi but everyone has english names, so that would be the closest thing.
Really makes me wonder why the hell Makoto is called Queen. It doesn't even fit her theme.
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>>381509713
Yessir

>>381509969
Nope, she just likes the quiet of the church to practice Shogi, and the priest lets her. Though with how she wrecks the board everytime she sets down a piece idk about all that peace and silence

>>381509993
Yeah yeah yeah good meme mate fuck off, also Makoto is a god tier waifu as well

>>381509780
idk but I'm sure they could find a way, her mother isn't that evil, she's a cunt but that's it. They'd need to find someone much bigger that is persecuting her or she'd need to be brought in by accident or something while the PT are working on something else.
Also yeah but Mishima is just... idk he's such a weakling. No one in their right mind would keep a leech like that around them IRL, at least no one that I know. Also he develops quite the hubris when you follow his social link.
+ the site did more harm than good remember
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>>381510232
It was one design. I'm sure they had multiple design changes for each PT. Hell, Joker's Persona was originally going to be Mephistopheles
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>>381510232
And persona 4's concept art had masks
>>381475758

Designs go through a lot of iterations and ideas. The pirate theme is one they tried and abandoned before settling on the skintight suit.
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>>381510101
>Makoto's palace would involve the principal
That'd be good. It'd fit with the PT's being framed later on and with the Principal going to the cops.

Hifumi's codename should have been Queen.
Makoto should have been something else.
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Aesthetically, card crushing
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>>381510386
Fuck you pancake boy. You got fucked super hard.
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>>381510408
Fuck off

But seriously, what would they do if they did add her? I could see Queen being an answer choice but it can't work now.

Honestly Makoto should have been "Rider" or "Knight" and Hifumi would have been Queen
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>>381471767
Shooting yourself, so then I can reenact it irl by using my PS3 controller.
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>>381508812
Honestly, the only thing i want from P5: Crimson is a fucking free roam option without timer.
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>>381510468
>>381510509
Of course the game goes through multiple design changes. My point is that neither character would be a pirate, because it doesn't fit them at all.
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>>381508812
All I want in Crimson is more date scene with my waifu.
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>>381510415
Fuck, I thought finally there will be an actual catholic character.
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>>381510735
Hifumi should be that thing that Nobushi from For Honor is based off of. It's got a mask and everything. With a bow as a gun.
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>>381500537
>The man is cold, stoic and tougher than rock
Thats a nice way of saying PTSD riddled wreck who is tired of living. At least if we're going by movie characterization.
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>>381510634
Knight would make the most sense, since she's 'riding' her bike and her mask is basically the visor for a knight helmet.
Calling her Queen just came off as the game fellating her and telling us how awesome she is.
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>>381510798
She's not confirmed not to be catholic.
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>>381510415
Imagine this but with little Yuuki Mishima instead.
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>>381510415
Maybe they could have had Yusuke's school as an area to explore.
Yusuke could get Joker a pass to be there or something by saying he's a model for his art.
You'd meet Hifumi through that since she also goes to that school.
The principal of Yusuke's school could also be working for Shido. It could turn out there's a whole bunch of educators on his payroll so they could manipulate the youth how they see fit.
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So why did Joker want to go back to his parents? Didn't they just shove him off once he was falsely convicted?

Why the fuck would you go back to that when you have probably the biggest bedroom in all of Japan above a fucking cafe? You might as well be living in a fucking mansion in Japan.
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>>381510913
Also they should honestly switch arcanas. High Priestess fits Hifumi way better in my opinion. I mean, she's even in a church.
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>>381510913
Jeanne would make MUCH more sense, she's basically fucking Jeanne d'Arc

>>381510798
Some P characters are probably religious but I'd recon ATLUS writers are smart enough to treat this as an afterthought and not build the character entirely around it.
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>>381502093
Source me right now. Good P1 shit is super hard to find. I've seen an Anon with a collection of all the P1 books and doujins and merch and shit though, on one of these threads.
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>>381510795
That's going to be a given. They did the same with Golden.
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>>381511084
Because they needed to end the game
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>>381510219
>>381510468
>Originally Joker's persona was to be Mephistopheles
>Confidant "contracts" were supposed to Joker stealing the souls of the confidants and bounding them to his own
>Mephistopheles was eventually supposed to ascend to Satanael with the power of Joker's confidants
>changed to Arsene to fit the shitty thief naming scheme
So many concepts for this game changed in devolpment, but things that would stem from the original concepts weren't changed at all. Hifumi makes more sense of having the codename queen due to her confidant, and Mephistopheles awakening to Satanael makes a hell of a lot more sense than Arsene.
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>>381508812
>New Personas
>More room decoration options
>More dating/store locations
>Buy costumes from the Underground Mall
>Make the Warden fight not a complete fucking joke
>Have maxed out SLinks for party unlock another skill sans "evade X" that helps balance out the party lineup choices
>Have weather forecast displayed in day to day passing a la P4 did
>Make Snow more common in December and actually do something
>More Mementos stuff
>Unique midbosses that AREN'T Personas with different movesets/attributes
>Allow you to choose which skill to inherit from Gallows since people are just going to reset until RNG gives them what they want anyway
>Preview just how much a stat gets boosted from leveling up in Gallows
>QoL changes to passive Confidant skills (ie. Futaba treasure scan on an enemy gets them to drop item on first Melee strike Joker lands instead of it being RNG)
>Ability to enable/disable confidant passives
>New Confidant(s) I guess
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>>381511084
Who said he wanted to go? He's a minor.
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>>381511084
They "shoved him off" because he had a bad reputation in his hometown and no school but Shujin would take him. Why exactly he went back, I'm not sure -there was no real reason he couldn't stay at Shujin. Maybe he actually likes his parents, I dunno. Door-Kun has dead parents and Brotag apparently resents his parents for moving so much, maybe Joker actually has a healthy parent/child dynamic going on.
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>>381511126
That is also true. Makoto is also the honor student with high expectation on her. So Star or Empress would be more fitting than Priestess.
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>>381511168
Yeah no I get that but why go back to them?
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>>381511313
Speaking of gallows, the ability to just pick which stats to raise on level would be nice so you no longer have to just keep exiting and reentering until you get what you want.
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>>381511041
It would also show us Yusuke's school because he's always the odd one out when it comes to that stuff. And if you ask me the principal of a prestigous school for art and shit would make much more sense to have connection to Shido than Kobayakawa. I mean how in the fuck did they even meet?
Was that when Shido was still in the metro assembly?
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>>381510946
I think >>381511127 is right, maybe she's catholic but they are not going to build her around a religion.
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Just switch Hifumi and Makoto. Everything would work perfectly. Leave their confidants basically the same, just switch their aracana and roles in the story, It would work perfectly.
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>>381511667
A pyramid is built from the ground up. You've got to control the base as much as the peak.

Also, brainwashing the youth to agree with him. Start 'em early and you'll keep em for life.
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>>381511023
ARE YOU PROUD YET
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>>381511313
>New Confidant(s) I guess
Aeon I'd say. Though no fucking clue who that would be since pretty much anyone of note already has a confidant. So that would mean they'd make a new character just to be the Aeon one, which brings us right back to Marie (though I'm one of the few that didn't mind her)
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>>381511891
La ven za
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>>381511313
>Have all the DLCs become buyable costumes at the maid café in New Game +
Fucking yes please
Also have Joker not go to him home but stay with his friends and new family and love of his life like any fucking sane person would
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>>381511891
Wouldn't Aeon just be Lavenza?
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>>381512002
And when are we supposed to do that one when she literally only appears at the end of the game?
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>>381511824
Also just make Yusuke's school playable and have Bankman be hustling those students. Bam. Fits like a glove
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>>381511313
>New Personas
Is the most likely. Atlus needs an excuse to make as many demon models as possible.
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>>381489814
I thought it was implied that was the case.
>super important cognitive psience research
>Shido ends up with it at the end
>Wakaba has mental fuck-ups due to Goro
>explained away by suited thugs as "maternal whatevers"
>these cause her to be super cold and bitchy, forces her to throw herself into the car
>suits make fake suicide note, read it to Futaba
>then do the extreme blaming to fuck with her mind/spirit because ???
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>>381511891
Kiryu Kazuma.

You already have Like a Dragon in universe just connect it.
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>>381511891
The game would probably give us one additional month for the new endgame dungeon, I don't see why it couldn't be Lavenza. Aegis only gets one month for her S-link, and that's without broken fortune telling shittery.
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>>381512002
The character you only know exists for the last few hours of the game?
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>>381512147
She's the butterfly, dumbo

Or NG+ exclusive
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>>381512108
Isn't she technically Strenght?
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>>381512147
They could always extend the story. After you take down the Holy Grail the metaverse still exists and the Thieves take out a few new targets.
They could tie it in with Joker staying in Tokyo rather than going back to his hometown.
Maybe even have him start another year of school.
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>>381476970
this guy gets it
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>>381512307
In a perfect world we'd get Lavenza without losing Caroline.
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>>381512315
>He changes his parents' cognition
>double palace run where changing something in one affects the other
>dual boss
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>>381512220
I think it's because Shido is just super fucking obsessed with crushing everything that could possibly mess with his plans.
Child of the lady researching cognitive psience?
Probably doesn't know as much but could possibly come back to screw with him later, better destroy her fucking life.

About the only one he doesn't follow through with is Joker, probably because he was drunk.
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>>381511891
Philemon. He can set up the Igor replacement in the next game.
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>>381475758
That top left design, is that a motherfuckin Berserk reference?
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>Philemon comes back for Crimson
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>>381512315
The barest maximum I'd wager Atlus would do is to give one additional month to the game, like they did with Golden, and in that timeframe they had Marie's dungeon take place.
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>>381512315
>Attacking new targets
>When at the end of the game they realize that what they were doing contributed to the rise of the Demiurge to begin with
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>>381512552
Fucking looks like it

>>381512572
Where's Philemon been all this time anyways, ATLUS wyd
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>>381511891
Aeon so far has been tied to the Velvet room, and we really don't need anymore of that. Yaldy makes that fucked up as is.

I say make Yaldy into the Jester/Hunger Arcana, and add a P-Thieves focused Fool Arcana.
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>>381512517
Eh, I could see that. I mean Joker literally created a bond with the anti-god.
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>>381511891
something that expands upon the Demiurge before hand would be nice for Aeon, he's even more out of left field than Izanami.
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>>381512573
You mean when Jokers in Juvie after the metaverse is destroyed?
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>>381512572
>Alternate ending
>Phil kicks down the door into the Velvet room
>Yabadabadoo panics
>"Get the fuck out of my house"

Game ends.
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>>381512685
>>381512572

Didn't Philemon fuck off permanently because his last bit of intervention ended in him having to remake the universe?

Beings on his level getting involved just escalates things too much. He just sits back and has faith his Wild Cards will pull through.
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>>381512695
>Aeon
>tied to the Velvet Room
Who is Aigis?
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>>381512741
Demiurge legitimately came out of fucking nowhere, yeah. At least you met Izanami at the beginning of the game. The presence of Izanagi also helped you know what the fuck was up.
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>>381512750
Joker was in solitary right? easy fix.
>sneaks out due to Lavenza helping him
You could even add some prison shit to do.
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>>381512750
>Joker jail showering scene added
>Need max proficiency not to drop the soap
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>>381511313
>Make Snow more common in December and actually do something
One more thing: Actually have it FUCKING SNOW OUTSIDE instead of just giving it a ugly blue hue and a cloudy day.

Few more QoL changes:
>Choose where decorations are placed in the room
>No more RNG online fusing for niche abilities. Slap them on endgame Personas. Almighty would still be blah with the Amp since there's no Boost to stack it with like every other element.
>More Gun customization options. The idea felt only partially explored
>Block off game-breaking shit like SP Regen 3 by blocking them off until a certain date. Getting them for 50K a pop by the second dungeon makes one-tripping Palaces a breeze since everyone having a meager SP pool was the biggest hurdle in early game to deal with.
>More craftable items (ie. MC Persona permanent stat boosts to make min-maxing less tedious)
>Accelerate deadline times so we don't have to wait over halfway through the game to get Futaba and Haru (the latter being unusable for over half of October)
>Make no Ultimate's level higher than 85 to make min-maxing more efficient.
>More enemies resist/null/drain/reply Nuke/Psy since the two are usually too safe to use when you're playing a blind run since a lot of enemies are either weak or take neutral damage to either of the two
>Why the fuck isn't there a Gun skill that deals colossal damage in vanilla
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>>381512741
So a broken off part of the Demiurge that turns out to be a qt girl that also happens to be the perfect Japanese wife material?
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>>381512843
I would not mind him coming back in a weak state.

Wait

What if the elevator atendees are parts of Phil and Igor is trying to bring the pieces of his master back through the Wild Cards?
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>>381491994
Joker is the best self insert
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>>381512975
>Yusuke about to get have hot shower sex with Joker
Yeah I'm not maxing my proficiency this run
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>>381511130
Its the official manga for Persona 1. I was never into the first game very much, but reading this was a much better take on it for me
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>>381504207
Ohya is the worst bar none.

not only is she thot, but she doesn't even give you a good ability at all.

Best is Shinya.

but lets be honest, Twin wardens give the best ability.
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>>381512741
>>381512882
If anything I can appreciate how Marie made the Izanami reveal less out of nowhere.
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>>381513075
Nah if anything the attendants are different and weaker aspects of Philemon.
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>>381512882
Fake Igor is genuinely well done, but him being the Demiurge is just kinda fucking out there. Holy Grail is forshadowed with a fucking class question on card suits for fucks sake.
>>381513026
It's just fucking Marie again but I'd work, just have some girl who talks about how humans seek to imprison themselves due to their own foolish actions.
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>>381513125
That's my son right there. I'd take him from his bitch mom if I could.
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>>381512750
Would also be cool if we got to play as the group without Joker in it. And your chosen love interest becomes the leader during that time, if you have none or you didn't date a PT then it defaults to Ryuji or Morgana.
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>>381513319
Remember when everyone on Giantbomb were complaining like niggers about the change of voice actor in the trailer "ATLUS DON'T KNOW WHHAT HE FUCK THEY'RE DOING WAAAAAAH" well Giantbomb forums BTFO after all
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>>381513398
But what if Futaba?
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>>381513319
>It's just fucking Marie again but I'd work, just have some girl who talks about how humans seek to imprison themselves due to their own foolish actions.
I wouldn't call Marie perfect wife material but OK.
Actually I wouldn't mind if the Aeon S.Link would be a dude this time around.
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>>381474942
JoJo...?
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>>381513461
I was assblasted by the voice change at first too, I was utterly BTFO myself
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>>381513012
I forgot a few big ones that really irked me
>Be able to return to LeBlanc's on weekends/holidays in the morning/afternoon without it immediately becoming evening. Sometimes I want to buy something like a game or rent a movie and go home to watch/play it without it taking up half the day.
>Option to read a book in your room on weekends/holidays instead of having to wait until the evening
>More clear schedules for confidant availability (ie. days they will always be available, circumstances they will NOT be available). Some confidants do this, such as Kawakami always being available Fri/Sat (and occasionally some other days in the week), Yoshida always available on Sunday's, Chihaya being absent whenever it is rainy, etc. while being a guessing game with your party members.
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>>381513486
You run around as her on the map but the battles are faught by four characters of our chosing without one of them being the designated leader that can't be taken out.
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>>381513461
Originally, besides the fact that Igor's VA is dead, I thought it was just a stylistic choice to have his voice be more opressive since Joker's velvet room was a prison, but the whole "Welcome to MY Velvet Room" gives it away. It's built up well though and is the best twist in the entire game. English version butchers it though since you don't get the original Igor VA once he returns.
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>>381483962
>SEES get their ultimate persona in the finale instead of through facing hardships
>Burn My Dread Last Battle and Battle for Everyone's Souls reversed
4th movie was retarded as fuck
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>>381500440
No repercussions aside from one scene late in the game where all the girls you're romancing except the one you chose to go out with on valentines/x-mas (i forget) beat you up.

Futaba crying was enough for me not to do that though.
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>>381510408
I wish her codename was Witch, which was one of the options when picking her codename
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>>381513918
>tfw Ann never turns around and talks to you in class

This is another thing I want in Crimson.
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Hey guys it's Kamoshida just dropping by, just got back from grocery shopping haha, I picked up some honey while I was out and it got me to thinking, boy what if you just slathered some of this stuff all over Ann haha, just slowly at first with a BBQ brush but getting more and more agitated and just using your hands haha, and licking it off her crotch and armpits, but then you get interrupted by the student council president, and though she hates it at first she eventually gives in and starts touching herself before crouching over you and Ann's prone bodies and cumming before relieving herself, leaving you to lick up a mix of honey, piss, and ejaculate haha, just a weird thought I had pretty strange huh, Kamoshida out
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>>381503408
>after the big reveal when you catch up to the interrogation flashbacks
>the whole team exhaustively explaining what actually went down
>morgana's intense explanation that it was the pancakes that brought him down
>pancakes joker
>pancakes

I just couldn't take that shit seriously, especially from fucking morgana.
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>>381505667
Bros before hee hoes
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I have conquered the personaverse
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I'm doing the museum now
When do i start hanging out with Ann or that hot sensei or that Fubuki girl everyone here is clamoring about?
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>>381514414
Go away Kamoshida. All the things you want to do with Ann Joker gets to do and more.
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>>381514237
Her name should have been something post apocalypsy, since she was a biker with nuke attacks.
I don't see what was wrong with the name "Rider".
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>>381514949
What if "Furiosa"
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>>381510795
>actually use LETS NOT DO THAT TONIGHT NIGHTS FOR DATES
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>>381508812
It'd be a cool touch if Crimson adds the female MC and playing as her means Morgana is female too.

but

>akechi redemption arc

I'd rather have him confirmed dead.
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>>381515114
Makoto's actually attractive and smart though
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>>381511262
I'm just sad that robin hood (both persona name/stats/weaknesses/abilities) weren't actually Joker's. Robin hood would be more fitting for Joker (and his band of merry men) than a certain someone.
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>>381515157
I thought Furryosa was kinda pretty.
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>>381513125
Really hard to say which one had the best since a lot of them were Godsends at different points in the same.

>Yoshida made it rain money
>Kawakami's massage means no longer having to have to check what confidants are active in the evening and then resetting every single time I want to go to Mementos and washes clothes for free (which I can then sell later)
>Using Get Smoked's ability to down Treasure enemies and flat-out ignoring gun resistance for Joker on top of double ammunition
>Tae selling SP Regen 3 before it's even June
>Chihaya making time management with confidant's a breeze
>Hifumi allowing running away on the first turn, making Reaper farming a lot less tedious
>Making Black Frost at level 55 after maxing out Warden's
>Mishima's experience boosts
That's EIGHT different things that alone would be more than enough to break the game, and they implemented them all. The madmen
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>>381515114
What if they just call her Witness
It'd fit with the story of Kaneshiro
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>>381509416
>animal style

l-lewd

Hifumi seems underrated. As soon as I started her confidant (late, unfortunately) I knew she'd be a favorite of mine. Unfortunately again, I'm a week or so into the Shido palace deadline, have maxed knowledge, and only have Hifumi at like rank 4.

Just don't see a reason to finish her up when I'm already scrambling to finish off other links now that I feel like I'm running out of time.

I don't want it to end bros
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>>381515149
I actually thought Morgana was female at first, due to the voice and name.
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>>381471767
Shooting yourself fucking creeped me out every time. That shit was going way too far.
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>>381514265
>One of her dates mentions that she's anxious throughout the day until she can see you again
Turn around for fucks sake
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>>381515447
NG+ her
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>>381509883
>dropping the l-bomb after like 3 months

Joker pls
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>>381515454
I only knew that Morgana was male at the start of the game after *boyish voice*
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>>381514528
>No SMT IF
>No Demon Summoner
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Leave Persona to me
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>>381515581
Yeah that was pretty dumb.
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>>381515637
Sometimes you just know I guess.
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>>381515581
I think she means "in private". Thing is they already draw enough attention in school due to a) her looks and the whole Kamoshida fiasco and b) due to Joker being labeled a crminal. Imagine the school would get wind of it that those two are dating. No one would shut up about it and it's cause unwanted attention on them.
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>>381515637
>Implying that after you save a girl's life and spend eight hours every couple of days running around in skin tight suits together you can't speed things up a little
>>
>>381515447
I was in the same boat. My advice is to max Strength if you can and summon the highest level persona you can in NG+ to get through dungeons as fast as possible. I'm using my level 80 Sandalphon with angelic grace and Invigorate 3 along with my Trumpeter with the same and all Ma-dyne skills and Megidola to stomp my way through. Go for Yusuke's confidant to unlock the church to get to her.
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>>381515637
Ann drops when they start dating.
>>
>>381478420
>breaking the shackles that restrain your true self, quite literally.
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>>381511371
>maybe joker actually has a healthy parent/child dynamic going on

Considering he doesn't hear from them at all for over a year and doesn't speak with anyone about them, I doubt it man.
>>
>>381515793
I wonder when she actually did start liking him. Their whole meeting and the scene later when she is crying is pretty much a total setup for romance.
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>>381516001
>Over a year
Wat
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>>381515447
Trust me max Hifumi. You need her Max rank Persona.
>>
>>381478420
Dying peacefully of old age in a bed surrounded by your loved ones
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>>381478420
Ripping anal beads out.
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>>381478420
Depends on the theme.
>>
>>381511371
How far away does he even live from Tokyo I wonder?
Can't be that far if he had a run in with Shido, so him moving back is pretty much a non-issue.
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>>381516098
Does Lucifer even come with Armageddon and Victory Cry?
If there is one Persona someone needs it's Yoshitsune with every possible protection possible.
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>>381514534
after the 3rd palace
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>>381516093
>Cute delinquent boy comforts you
>Then he white knights for your ass but actually succeeds
Probably by the end of the first dungeon.
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>>381516098
>Implying you need Lucifer in any game without Fusion Spells
Nerd
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>>381516434
Well she clearly is the most eager to admit it.

Imagine she comes to visit Joker during the year he's back home. I bet his parents would be shocked how he scored.
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>>381516409
How many are there?
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>>381516523
>Not immediately fusing for Satanel in NG+

That is the only reason for getting Lucifer.
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>>381515357
Not even the confidants alone break the game, you can do it by like the 3rd or 4th dungeon.

>Get Sandman or other persona that learns confuse
>Put "confuse boost" onto it
>Strengthen Luck, release it and re-summon it with mad Tora money
>Do this times infinity = 99 Luck
>Go to Mementos
>Do a request boss with Joker only, use Confuse
>Boss is now dropping hundreds of thousands in yen every turn
>Profit
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>>381508285
Kek
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xvZqHgFz51I
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>>381516637
>Well she clearly is the most eager to admit it.

That's true.
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>>381516741
8
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>>381516741
8
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>>381516850
>>381516847
If they're all as long as the first one I'm in for a lengthy endeavor huh
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>>381516787
>tfw missed Yoshido confidant on my first play through
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>>381516823
The other girls don't say 'I love you' during that time frame in their confidants, right?

Also is Joker trying to go for a kiss?
>>
I love the initial summon each member of the cast got in 5 during cutscenes. It's too bad the summons weren't like that after though.

Overall I'd probably go with the cards though just because of the variety
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>>381516787
Watch as that exloit is getting patched out if they release Crimson.
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>>381516823

Ann is best waifu!
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>>381517079
It's probably a cultural thing, Anne would be less restrained since she has a different cultural background.
Japanese romance is extremely weird like that
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>>381517079
>trying to go for a kiss?
He went for a hug and later a kiss.
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>>381517212
Of course.
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>>381516923
Trust me you don't even know the half of it for some Palaces.
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>>381517191
Pretty sure it's intended given how the ones who give out the most are all related to greed in some way
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>>381517326
Those are also the only ones that can be confused.
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Do Joker and Ann ever sneak into the metaverse together and have kinky sex while wearing their theif outsuits?
Maybe summon their personas and get them to fuck too.
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>>381517430
>Joker summons Mara
>Visible concern
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>>381517430
Who the fuck would ever want to fuck P5 Hectate? Demon Hectate is one thing, but P5 Hectate has spiky breasts and is also a dog walker.
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>>381517430
Probably. She really loves Joker.
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>>381517430
With all those zippers on Ann's I can't see how Joker hasn't been tempted yet.
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>>381517430
>you will never summon Arsene to bang Carmen
>you will never get to hear Arsene's glorious laughter as he cucks Carmen's puppets
>you will never watch Carmen's exposed breasts jiggle as she takes it up the ass underneath her dress

Why even live

[spoilers]Besides to fuck a motorcycle of course[/spoilers]
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>>381517604
Satanael is probably into some kinky shit.
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>>381517274
Kaneshiro is on some next level shit.
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>>381517667
>The crotch zipper is the tail
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>>381494467
Underrated
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>>381515357
wait what's so special about Black frost?
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>>381514528
>no TMS #FE
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>>381519014
>Implying that's Persona
It's a Fire Emblem game.
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