Is it September yet

Hopefully it gets leaked early, looking forward to pirating it.

>>381439191
I can't believe a 3DS game won E3 for me, but here we are.

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>Have gateway and can pirate any 3DS game I want
>Still gonna buy Metroid Samus Returns because we need more Metroid games

This game has to sell and I will do my part. I rarely bought 3DS games.

Also Luigi Mansion 3 when?

>>381439191
Moter id HOLY SHIT

>>381439191
Its gonna be shit thanks to mercury steam

>>381440586
well meme'd

>>381440586
The guy who directed the Lords of Shadow games and ruined the series left the company.

>>381439256
I hope you get kidney stones.

i hate waiting

>>381439191
Play AM2R instead.

>>381439346
>supporting "cinematic" 30 FPS trash from the makers of Mirror Fate and Other M
Fuck off. Metroid lives on in other games just fine.

>>381441204
Rude

>>381442212
>AM2R

AM2R is fucking shit

>>381444046
am2r was goat, shut the fuck up

>>381444274
>shitty Euro-Techno music rearrangements
>awful, awful boss battle designs
>level design taken from original but dragged out even longer
>casualized map system
>"goat"

Nah.

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>>381442212
>Play AM2R instead.

>>381439191
When can I preorder the amiibo bundle? I fucking want it and that adorable little Metroid.

They're going to sell out and I'll be screwed, won't I?

>>381439346
I may not agree with just pirating everything, but at least you're a good enough dude to buy something that deserves it. At least from what we've seen this game deserves it, and hopefully MP4 will too.

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>>381444561
>Euro-Techno music is for patricians
>the boss battles were good
>level design was good
>map system is good
>not goat

just try and counter that, i'll wait

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>>381439191
AMIIBO PREORDERS WHERE GONE WITHIN THE FUCKING HOUR

>>381445493
I pre-ordered mine from GameStop last week, though the clerk told me that there were only two left so it might be all gone by now.

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>>381442212
>Nintendo starts making new metroid games
>"le fuck off i love le fan game instead"
>Nintendo stops making them
>"Waah why they no make metroid anymore"

No wonder they don't listen to the fans

I'm in Chozodna in Zero Mission after getting the fully powered suit but it's blocked off by a power bomb block. Is there a power bomb somewhere around?

Is there any chance it will run at 60FPS on New 3DS/2DS?

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>>381439191
Can't freaking wait, huh?

>>381446478
Yes you nigger keep looking.

>>381439346
If this sells, the franchise will be completely delegated to MercurySteam. Do you know what MercurySteam is? This game MUST fail if you want to see a real Metroid game in the future.

>>381446496
If its like Wooly World yeah. CFW can also help

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>europoors get the better box
>europoors get the better special edition

fuck

>>381446676
>Retro Studios makes a bland shit.
>Nintendo comes in and let's them make Prime.
>Tells them what's stupid and what's good to do.
>Makes a masterpiece.
I'm not worried.

>>381446915
Yeah, Nintendo would never allow a shitty outsource studio to fuck up a Metroid game, right? This just can't happen man.

>>381446676
The game is mostly being handled by Nintendo, MercurySteam is just handling the programming.

>>381447096
You're fucking delusional. Just like those fucks who thought Kojima was directing Lords of Shadow, or that "Team Ninja" behind Other M was actually teh same studio as people who made Ninja Gaiden. Delusional or heavily ignorant.

Read up and wise up. I hope we get a great Metroid game just like you do, but the reality is that our chances are slim.

>>381446676

MS are just code monkeys. All the design is from the Super/Fusion team. Everyone at E3 who played it said it played as smooth as butter.

>>381447268
Everyone at E3 said Lords of Shadow played smooth as butter too. Word for word.

>>381447268
E3 is a commercial, son. It's advertisement.

>>381447050

Follow the dev interviews. Other M's faults were from Sakamoto going insane and not having anyone beat him into line. Team Ninja fought all his stupid ideas but he had ultimate authority.

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>>381446871
Why is Samus' armor bending in the original box art?

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>>381445871

>just try and counter that

how bout the fact that the AM2R devs literally are extremely hyped for Return of Samus and take pride that their project was a voice to Nintendo that we wanted Samus back, and we got it back.

Please be good.

>>381446871
Where? Give me the link

>>381446676
What the fuck is a real Metroid game

>>381439191
>Not AM2R
Dropped.

>>381439191
I wish

>>381446042
The UK haven't had their preorders yet WHEN CAN I BUY HER GAME AND AMIIBOS?

>>381447483
That's damage control. It simply isn't true. The truth of the matter was that the game was outsourced to a god-awful studio--the remnants of the Team Ninja ruined by horrifying financial and legal problems at Tecmo. Nintendo outsource the game to them and it was stillborn. Now Nintendo's outsourced it to an equally awful studio. Treehouse people said that it's all the old people right from Super Metroid team, but that's simply a lie. It's a lie, you faggot. Samus Returns is about as much a Nintendo game as the Rabbids thing or the Mario Olympics stuff.

>>381447651
A main-series Metroid game developed either by Nintendo, or a competent hired studio. We got lucky with Retro. Who knows, maybe MercurySteam is completely different from the time they ruined Castlevania. But what are the chances?

>>381440834
It wasn't his fault though. MercurySteam made a shitty GoW clone and Kojima told Konami to name it castlevania.

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>>381447787

when we saw Other M it looked like ass, gameplay looked off.

Gameplay on the showfloor of E3 by people not working at Nintendo said it plays and looks amazing. what the fuck else do you want to argue about, the game isnt out yet, this is the only thing we can count on and you are still complaining.

>>381439346
Same, but I already pre-ordered the limited edition and the amiibo pack. Hopefully we'll get another golden age of Metroid like in the GameCube era!

>>381447878
>A main-series Metroid game developed by Nintendo
So Prime 4? It's being developed in-house at Nintendo EAD.

I have never played a metroid game before, so which one should I emulate on my vita?

>>381447787
>a lie
source?

>>381447935
Lords of Shadow looked pretty cool at E3 too. Then it came out and it was what it was. Then we found out Kojima's involvement was misdirection. And then the sequel was even worse.

>>381440829
lel cant wait until it comes so you cant say that

>>381448021
>>Steve Jobs says iPhone is just so smooth and great
>it's a lie, the "conference" is a commercial, you mongrel
>>what? source please.

>>381448016

Zero Mission.

>>381446871
>live in yurop
>want to buy special edition
>it will probably have the fuck-ugly giant USK logo destroying the boxart

Fuck you, Germany.

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>>381439191
Just when I thought I'd probably finish up my final games on the 3DS and retire the damn thing they shadow drop this as well as Mario and Luigi. Good shit on Nintendo for not letting the 3DS die on a whimper. Any thoughts on what the 3DS swan song will be? Maybe one last 2d Zelda game?

>>381446871
>euros get more galaxy on their case

It's not fair! This favoritism has to stop!

>>381440834
Literally fake news this guy is still there

https://twitter.com/enric_alvarez

>>381448329
Samus Returns and the pokemongs game are the swan songs. The games coming out for 3DS this year are all wrap-ups that started development prior to this year. Everything else moved to switch.

>>381448013
Theoretically, yes. But it doesn't look like Prime 4 is in development at all. They'll probably launch the project when and if Samus Returns is successful, and move it to MercurySteam too.

Unless MercurySteam is suddenly and magically a much better company than it always was, Metroid is fucked.

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buy the remake!! do it 4 her

>>381448480
>ll. They'll probably launch the project when and if Samus Returns is successful, and move it to MercurySteam too.
Damn, that's some good headcanon.

They specifically said now in development. Tanabe was talking about Prime 4 in 2015. Samus Returns started development in 2014.

>>381447878
>Competent hired studio
>Got lucky with Retro
So it's basically a Metroid game that you like, made by a studio you like?
Does that mean if Samus Returns ends up good it will go from a fake Metroid game to a real Metroid game? Is Other M a real Metroid game, since Team Ninja was a competent team before 2011 or so?

>>381445617
>to buy something that deserves it
Its made by mercury steam it only deserves shit :^)

>>381448585
Are you blind? Prime 4 does not exist. They don't even have a single concept art and not a single announcement about it at all. All they have is a WIP logo.

>>381448480
MercurySteam is just developing the game for Nintendo. They don't have free reigns for anything.

Man I can't fucking wait for this game to come out already, it'll be amazing and people can stop saying misinformed shit like this.

>>381439191
I'm not sure if it's just me but does that logo and general whole design look like shit?

It literally looks like fanart to me.

But maybe it's just me.

>>381448674
>Nintendo: Prime 4 is now in development
>Random NEET on 4chins: PRIME 4 DOES NOT EXIST BECAUSE I SAID SO

Hmmm who I should believe?

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>>381446042
>preordering.anything, much less...
>preordering video games, much less...
>preordering DLC, much less...
>preordering overpriced physical DLC, much less...
>preordering overpriced physical DLC that's driven by artificial scarcity and scalpers.

>>381448613
>So it's basically a Metroid game that you like, made by a studio you like?
That me and you both like. What else is there to it?

I don't get it. Do you like what MercurySteam did to Castlevania? Or do you think they've magically improved and are now amazing Retro-level developers that can make a Metroid game on par with SM and MP? What is your point?

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>>381439346
>>>>>Brickway
>paying to pirate
>having one in 2017 when there are countless more benefits just hacking the free way
come on my man, you have to be joking.

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>>381448467
>Metroid on 3DS
>a wrap up
>not expecting Metroid Dread by early 2019 for the 3DS

I haven't bought a 3DS game since Majora's Mask 3D, and Dual Destinies before that. I see that little faggot flashing its dusty low battery LED on my nightstand and I can't even be bothered to pirate anything even after hacking it. But fuck me I'm going to buy this.

>>381448837
They're kicking the 3DS out. The next Pokemon games being developed for the Switch already. It's over.

>>381448775
Definitely not the empty teaser trailer shown at an advertisement show, you fucking idiot.

>>381439346
If we ever get a LM3, I hope it goes back to the mansion style of the first and not the mission style of the second.
The lack of treasure variety also greatly hurt it.

>>381448830
I bought it way before 3DS hacking was as good as it is now.

>>381448916
Yeah no I'll go with the official announcement from a company that never went back on anything they've officially announced, thank you very much, faggot.

>all the salty sonyyggers itt
Enjoying the nth run of Bloodborne on your cuckstation? lmao

>>381440586
Retro was a shit studio too before Nintendo stepped in, they were running a porn server from the basement

>>381448910
True but Sakamoto hasn't had his feel of the 3DS truly yet, so I can see Metroid Dread being the last 2D game for the 3DS first before 2D Metroid games come to the Switch.

>>381448993
>If they say so in a commercial, it must be true word for word, than you very much, faggot

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>>381439191
Im trying to preorder the Special Edition but my Mexican amazon doesnt have it yet

>>381449060
wrong thread lad

>>381449087

Or Nintendo is fully embracing the switch after this year and so the Dread revival will be on the switch by executive order.

>>381439191
>S
>T
>I
>L
>L
>NO special edition on amazon
Please ninty I'm fucking dying

>>381449114
I'll go where you are and fuck you in the ass when this shit comes out.

>>381448830
you realize gateway was the only way to hack the 3ds for about a year before any free alternative came out?

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>>381449062
Yes, Nintendo won't allow a shitty studio to ruin a Metroid game. MercurySteam was be horrid, but Nintendo's going to make them Rare and Retro-level devs like they always do with their outsource studios.

>>381449087
I don't think so, given how Samus Returns took 3 years to develop

>>381448119
So you don't have one. I see.

>>381448380
It's not because of "more galaxy" it's because the title placement matches M2's box art. Still kind of petty though.

>>381449192
You'll have to too, what with all the frustration of being stupid enough to trust in a MercurySteam metroidvania of all fucking things, and all because a Treehouse titty monster said it played good and smooth and was so isolating and grrrreat. You romantic fucking fool.

>>381449265
We all know why this game sucked, and none of it was due to Team Ninja.

We already know Sakamoto isn't making the same mistakes, Other M has no story thrown in your face and it has backtracking galore.

>>381449265
You know Team Ninja didn't ruin that game right? Sakamkto had too much power, even Team Ninja Devs thought his ideas were bad but were too afraid to say anything

>>381440834
Eric Alverez is still the co-owner of Mercury Steam.

Nintendo needs to buy them out, and fire him so they have a European first party developer

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>>381448993
>company that never went back on anything they've officially announced

Finished AM2R and Federation Force. Now only Echoes and Pinball are left.

>>381439256
This is why no one likes piratefags. It's not the fact that you pirate, it's that you faggots derail discussion and spam threads with "hurr just pirate it, I r leet hacker".

>>381449453
>>381449467

Stop feeding.

>>381448273
This.

>>381448016
Metroid Returns will take place right after Zero Mission, because they're both remakes of Metroid 1 & 2.

Then do Super Metroid (unless they're planning a remake of that soon)

And after that give the Prime series a shot. By that point, Prime 4 will probably be out.

>>381449453
>>381449467
>We all know why this game sucked, and none of it was due to Team Ninja.
Yeah, you goys hold on to that myth.

>>381449491
>delayed game ends up being good
>rushed game ends up being bad
Wow

>>381449542
Fuck off AC fag

>>381449531

Prime series is between 1/2.

>>381442212
I don't care about other games though. I just care about Metroid.

>>381439346
mein nigger
bought federation farce just to support the series, put it down because it was boring, but plan on doing the same here

>>381449609

Armored Core Fag has been gone for years and his style was posting that Metroid Fans think Other M is the best game and shit talk all the others. It's a shitty wanna be.

>>381439191
Predict overall sales.

>>381449169
>by executive order
Sakamoto chose the 3DS and not the Switch for Samus Returns.

Sakamoto: "That was really my decision. One of the big reasons for that is the 2DS/3DS family have two screens. That lent itself so well to the map screen functionality that I’ve been wanting to put into the game that we hadn’t seen before, the ability to have the map screen always on. So it was a very obvious choice. I wanted to be able to have that free-aiming mechanic, and the analog stick allowed for us to do that. And Metroid, that series, that world-building, that feeling of where you’re at... that level design, all those things combined really make great use of the glasses-free 3D functionality. So if I take that: the 3D functionality, analog stick, second screen, put that all together, and the 3DS [is the best fit]."

http://kotaku.com/metroid-samus-returns-feels-great-to-play-1796236226

>>381448119
but it is smooth and great

>>381449780
40k in japan. 150k in US. 30k Europe

>>381439191
>30fps 2D platformer developed by MercurySteam
Anyone getting hyped for this has only themselves to blame for the inevitable disappointment.

>>381449312
See>>381449848

>>381449780
400k worldwide

>>381449848
He's not wrong though. One of the best parts of the DS IGAvanias was having the map always on display.

>>381448816
>scalpers
I'll take "things that don't come into play when you preorder your shit from Amazon" for $200 Alex.

>>381449229
>>381448946
But the fact that someone would still be using it is hilarious.

Sure, you wasted a good chunk of money that is outdated and doesn't even have as many features as the free alternative, but in order to lie to yourself that it wasn't a stupid purchase, you keep using it anyways.

Good stuff, my man.

MercurySteam said Samus Returns is 100% finished.

Why the fuck is it released three months from now?

>>381450345
3 months is how much time it takes for the game to be available physicaly worldwide without day 1 patches

>>381447556
That's fine, but AM2R isn't shit.

>>381449874
>>381450043

Probably too low.
It's been high on the list of best selling video games at Amazon since it was announced.

>>381446587
jesus christ, I heard that these guys are bad, but this is on another fucking level

>>381448837
Obviously that's the case currently because it's the only system that has fucking games.

Once the Switch's big games start coming out and the library expands, everyone's able to buy a console, etc. is when the revenue % will change drastically in favor of the Switch.

If anything, 3DS will die sometime in 2018.

I really wonder how badly AM2Rfags are going to hurt the sales of Samus Returns. Keep in mind you are absolutely fucktarded if you refuse to buy it just because of a fangame because the creators of said fangame give SR their full support.

>>381450581
If they don't stop having shortages the 3DS will die in 2019.

>>381450345
It's partially due to creating/distributing/wholesaling the physical media and partially due to gaming marketers being way the fuck behind the curve. Dudes still haven't figured out that you don't need to push stuff for months to get people hype about it.

>>381449265
But other m was a good game, it just shit all over the metroid franchise in terms of writing

>>381450779
But those devs are literally taking Nintendo's dick down their throat and thanking them for it.

Nintendo was in plans/in development of Return of Samus before AM2R was a thing.
They did not announce it, but if you take into consideration the length of time it takes to develop a full game, it's obvious.

They literally C&D'd AM2R because they were going to release the same exact game (quite possibly a shittier version) with 3D graphics for $40 and didn't want the free alternative to take away from their sales.

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>>381451104
>other m was a good game

>>381451104
I'm sorry anon, but other m was absolutely appalling

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Excluding the forced motion control and shitty story, Why is Samus crying over Ridley when canonically this is her third time fighting him? I actually liked Other M's gameplay a lot.Though they should never use it for Metroid again. And and I wouldn't mind it but another game entirely that has nothing to do with the Metroid series. Am I wrong?

If the Samus Returns engine is ported to the Switch, how long would it take to make Metroid Dread using it?

>>381451213
>But those devs are literally taking Nintendo's dick down their throat and thanking them for it.

Why wouldn't they? You don't spend ten years working on a Nintendo fan game if you don't have a deep respect and passion for Nintendo. The whole reason they made AM2R in the first place was to fill the void of 2D Metroid games, and now that Nintendo is actually making it, their wishes came true. Hating Nintendo's remake because a fan made it first is idiotic.

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Is it October yet?

>>381452818

>Third.

Not counting the manga as I have yet to read it, it's her 7th.

>Fight in ZM
>Prototype Meta Ridley in ZM.
>Meta Ridley in Prime
>Ridley with flesh restored from Phazon in Prime 3
>Ridley heavily mixed with Phazon also in Ptime 3.
>Clone in Super
>Another clone in Other M

Also the X-clone in Fusion but that was after.

>>381453236
>Clone in Super
That was the real thing not a clone.

>>381453236
Oh? I've never played the prime game but had no idea this took place after them. That actually makes it worse.

>>381453236

Wiki says the one at the end of ZM was just a robot, not a prototype.

>>381453905

The saga takes place between Metroid 1 and 2.

>>381453236
Super Ridley wasnt a clone, it was Ridley healed and patched up.

ZM isnt a prototype Meta Ridley, it's Mecha Ridley, a robot Ridley made in his spare time. He's lacking parts of its body because the pirates took them appart to make Meta Ridley.

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>>381449453
>>381449467

Well actually, Team Ninja sort did have something to do with the way Other M turned out.

You see, Sakamoto was originally going to make Other M another one of his 2D Metroid games, just done in a 2.5D style like Samus Returns. This is why he was hellbent on the game controlling with the Wiimote on its side, to emulate playing an NES/Famicom controller. But Team Ninja wanted to make it a 3D character action game like Ninja Gaiden, and they wanted to build it around using the nunchuck. Of course, Sakamoto said no and kept insisting that the game would have simple 2D controls. So, in order to keep going with their character action game set up while appeasing Sakamoto, they attempted to make a compromise by presenting him with a prototype that had the game in 3D but still controlling with the Wiimote on its side.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/03/11/gdc-10-metroid-director-wanted-classic-controls

>he insisted that the game would be an on-rails side-scrolling adventure that used the Wii remote exclusively like an NES/Famicom controller. But Team Ninja really wanted to make it a nunchuk-analog controlling game for 3D foreground/background exploration. Sakamoto stood firm on the Wii remote exclusivity. When the Team Ninja came up with an idea that could incorporate Sakamoto's Wii remote focus into a non-on-rails design, he was skeptical -- but when he finally saw what they came up with, he thought the solution was perfect. They called it "Famicom Game Plus."

>>381454049
Ah ok. I really should get into the Prime series soon

>>381454584
This, also don't forget Sakamoto only made the story guidelines while D-Rockets did the storyboards and scripts.

>>381439191
Are you buying it, /v/?

>>381455090
Hell yeah. Been waiting for a 2D Metroid forever

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>>381455932
FUCK, THAT STEELBOOK THO

>>381455932
>>381456068
Reggie needs to be fired.

>>381455932
Don't worry burgers, I'll love and cherish this edition for you guys too.

>>381455895
What about AM2R

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>>381455932
>>381456068
somebody call the white house

tell them to arm the nukes

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>>381455932
>>381456068
Thanks for nothing, NoA.

>>381456342
I played though it and its really fun. Shame my computer got wiped in the middle of it but I'll go back someday.

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>>381455932
>>381456068
This isn't fucking fair. Why are Europoors getting the red carpet treatment? Is Metroid even popular there?

>>381455932
>>381456068
Is Samus also censored in the US version? :^)

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>>381439346
>gateway

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>>381453072
Woah, NoA truly hate us.

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>>381455932
shit, i gave in my 3ds for a discount on the switch, but i still want this

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>>381446871
I don't know. That's Puke green PEGI logo ruins it for me.

>>381455932
Seriously, why.
Why the fuck would I want to pay extra for a CD that will be uploaded a week before the game comes out.

>>381453072
+ bowser's minions sounds so stupid to me

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>>381453072
I'm not mad, just dissapointed

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>>381449494
Prime Pinball is actually a pretty good pinball game. Really makes me want a Metroid themed machine for my den.

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>>381455932
>Tasteful steelbook
>>381456068
>Cardboard box that won't even look good on a shelf because of that shit in the corners and what appears to be yet another "don't play games if games give you seizures" message

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>>381442212
>t. average " i suck indie cocks" guy

>>381448837
I would like to see how many lost sales have hit the 3DS because of piracy.

I'm betting between flashcarts, roms and pedophile ring run theft. Metroid is going to suffer at least 300k-500k from lost sales around the world.

>>381444567
>Get to play 2 really good versions of Metroid 2
Great time to be alive

>>381460031
If anyone here pirates Samus Returns without buying a copy then you fucking disgust me.

>>381450345
Physical media my friend. The game is done, but it still has to be put on cartridges and shipped around the world.

>>381439346
Pretty much this, except I'll buy it after I've played it. I pirate things to make sure they're good first. I always wanted a 2D Metroid game on the 3DS after playing the others on it.

>>381460806
You should buy it no matter what just to communicate with your wallet that you want more Metroid. It's only $40, I'm sure you'll survive.

>>381446587
I love how I know exactly who you are just by the posts you make each thread. I don't think I've EVER seen someone as massively booty bothered as you. This game will be successful and sell a fucking truck load. Screenshot me. You can look at it when you cry fucking tears in september you little cunt.

>>381461013
But if it's a bad Metroid then I won't want to buy it. It IS made by the guys who did the 3DS Castlevanias. No amount of input from other devs can fix bad devs.
It looks fantastic so far, and I got a preorder waiting already. $40 isn't a lot but nobody gets anywhere in life thinking they can drop $40 on garbage whenever a company makes it.

What would you niggers do if they released this for switch tho?

>>381461785

Consider buying it again if they made enough additions to make up for the lack of a bottom screen.

>>381461785
buy both versions

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>>381452818
Everyone wonders why Samus freezes up against Ridley in Other M, when it's pretty damn simple if you're even an armchair psychologist.

Other M had Samus being retrospective and going through her past for the entire game where she was questioning her life choices and generally being in a psychologically weakened state. Through in the monster that killed her parents when she was a kid while she's going through the past. Any normal person in a weakened psychological state would freeze up after coming face to face with their parents murderer after they assumed they killed them for good.

Her turning into a child was symbolic. Also by the time she snapped out of it, Ridley already was shoving her face into the walls.

>>381456068
I thought the deluxe version came with the amiibos.
No point on getting this, just the normal edition.

>>381462465
Anon this would work if it was the first or second time but this was the 7TH TIME she's run into him. I can't believe she wouldn't be used to it by now

>>381452831
So is anyone going to answer my question?

>AM2R posters
Even the developer of it hates you faggots, just admit you're a fucking poorfag and cannot afford shit and maybe think about killing yourselves.

>>381462465
I know PTSD doesn't necessarily go away but if you're gonna go that route despite the past 3D and 2D games depicting their relationship differently you better justify and execute it a hell of a lot better than Other M did. The Metroid Manga has a nearly identical scene that's done with far more competence.

Though the problem with Other M is mostly its placement in the timeline. It takes place at the tail end of it after Ridley has come back from death a thousand times, and after Samus came to terms with her past, yet its still treating her as this emotionally fragile rookie in the story despite side comments about being a hardened galactic savior. Its attempting to do her origins with K2L and Adam, a post-mortem story for the infant Metroid, and continue Fusions plotline all at the same time when those stories have no business being weaved together given how separate they are from one another, and the end result is a game with confusing continuity and characterization.

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>>381452831
Depends. Using some of the same assets? Probably not too long. Of course they would still need to design the levels, cut scenes, and story. Plus new sounds, music, and any new assets specific to that game. Who's to say how long it would take?

>>381462465
Too bad Other M never actually states at any point that Ridley killed her parents. It's bad storytelling because if you didn't have that knowledge of Samus's backstory (which was never explained in any game and only found in a Japan-exclusive manga), then you would have no idea why she froze up like that.

>>381463982
The commercial had it too which makes it even more baffling that the game didn't.

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>>381449151
WHAT THE FUCK? Amazon Mexico will have it?

>>381463982
>never explained in any game
Japanese Metroid Fusion ending slides recount the Pirate attack that orphaned Samus, including a shot of Ridley attacking her father.
>b-but that's Japan-exclusive
They're also included in all versions of Zero Mission, whose own ending slides recount Samus growing up and training among the Chozo.
There's a log about Samus in Prime 3 explaining that she was the sole survivor of a pirate attack as well.

>>381464761
I stand corrected, but my point that it should have been foreshadowed in the game itself before becoming a big plot point still stands. That's just storytelling 101. In a game where Samus drones on and on explaining the obvious, why couldn't she drop the fact that Ridley killed her parents?

>>381464984
I absolutely agree.
Anyone playing the game without knowing that would think Samus is just scared of dragons.

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>>381455932
>that keychain

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>>381462465
>Everyone wonders why Samus freezes up against Ridley in Other M, when it's pretty damn simple if you've never played anything but Other M and know nothing about Samus

>>381463791
Would it be easier to just design the game for the 3DS instead?

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>>381463719
This. Sakamoto basically just took the manga's story about a younger, inexperienced Samus and dropped it in a post-Super game expecting that shit to fly. Other M only makes sense if you've read the manga and know Samus has issues with Ridley, except it doesn't because the manga already featured Samus getting over her issues with Ridley.

If the breakdown were to happen again, it would've been in either Prime or Super, both of which have Ridley coming back after being thought dead which is the supposed trigger for Samus' PTSD. Having another episode post-Super strains disbelief, and was absolutely not adequately explained as Samus being in a more vulnerable state of mind.

>>381462465
>Ridley already was shoving her face into the walls.
I wish that wasn't the only thing shoving into her walls

>>381466312
Other M should have been a prequel to Metroid 1

>>381446587
I'm so excited for this game to do well, and for you to cry about it

test

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>>381464761
That's really not a whole lot to go on, though. Given these pieces of information:
>Ridley fought Samus' father briefly
>Samus was orphaned by the Pirate attack on K2L

You wouldn't necessarily come to the conclusion that Samus fears Ridley specifically. At best you might think Samus has issues with the Space Pirates, which she also does, but it isn't nearly so severe. Other M doesn't show what Ridley actually did and suffered for it.

The manga goes so far as to explain that Ridley ate Samus' parents in front of her to power his regeneration, and a significant portion of her freakout was caused by him claiming that her parents' cells are now part of him. "Oh, is your mommy here in my chest? Or perhaps here?"

>>381466806
Nobody's going to be mad if the game does well Anon, the issue is that MercurySteam's recent history has largely centered around fucking up Castlevania and it's not unreasonable for people to be worried that they'll manage to pull the same shit with Metroid. MS has one good game under their belt and it's a story-driven Clive Barker game. This could be the point at which MS turns things around (and I really hope it is since it's the best chance of getting a good platformer between now and whenever Bloodstained drops) but this could also be a dreamshattering disaster.

>>381467302
>in front of her
That's something that never happens. No on seems to remember that right.
Samus' father sacrificed himself to thwart the raid by blowing up the energy source (Afloraltite) the pirates were after, while he was standing right next to it. It was stated Afloraltite was extremely powerful and that if it blew, there'd be no escaping the blast. He was likely vaporized.
Samus' mother was caught in a blast from Ridley that was meant for Samus herself. While it's likely she wasn't vaporized, and also likely that Ridley did eat her, it's never stated or shown that he does so in front of Samus. He only tells her later when they meet on Zebes.

>>381468618
Not him but remember, that happened in the manga, the game's version of the K2L attack is the canon version since it was made by Sakamoto himself.

I'll give MercurySteam some leeway because let's face it. Kojima is a retarded hack who Konami should have fired years ago.

Nintendo always finds a way to make dev teams shine where they only produce shit if they aren't under their whip. (See Silicon Knights, Factor 5 and Rare)

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This threads lack of pubic feathers is disturbing.

>>381446871
They're both shit because they were too fucking lazy to make a desert landscape for the cover

>>381469186
Oh I know. Everyone seems to recount that detail of the manga incorrectly though.
We don't even really know the details behind the game's version of the K2L attack at all, beyond Ridley being there and Samus being the only survivor.

is prime federation worth a try?

>>381447253
A fusion/zero mission designer is doing the map though. So at least that part should be ok.

I really hope this leaks so that I can get it on Freeshop early and beat it before it even comes out for pre-order cucks.

>>381469535
It's not awful. Just kind of okay. It does have story significance though. I think it will directly link to Prime 4. So at least watch an LP or something for the story.

>>381469907
Meant to reply to >>381469506

>>381448480
>They'll probably launch the project when and if Samus Returns is successful, and move it to MercurySteam too.

This is a seriously retarded statement. Stop

Nintendo would not announce a game, let alone at E3 during the main direct, if the development was conditional. In fact they don't even announce unless development is far along anymore because they realized consumers waiting over 2 years for games was retarded.

>>381469506
It's decent, not memorable though.

Which is a shame, the control scheme is fantastic. Use they would have used it in a Prime Hunters sequel

>>381454584
Why do people fail to understand that both sakamoto and team ninja were retarded when we have plenty of shit like this to read?

There's no reason for a single wiimote to be the only control option like its 1986.

There's no logic in trying to execute a modern 3D action game with a control scheme from 1986.

>>381455932
I'm guessing that Europe gets this because the devs are actually based in Spain. I think.

>We finally get a new 2D Metroid, technically a remake but oh well
>People bitch because anbunch of spaniards do the monkey job
>Even if its GOTY people will hate it because muh AM2R
>Tanks hard, dies harder than F-Zero
>Metroid on ice forever
I fucking hate you

>>381471469
I think the majority of the fans know that if they want it to keep living, they have to support this game. There's no other solution.

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>>381468618
It's not hugely important as to whether or not it actually happened, but it's the version lil' Samus remembers. When she thinks about that day, pic related is what she sees.

It's most likely due entirely to Ridley's taunts since she was 3 years old when it happened and doesn't remember properly, but still.

>>381471019
based mercury steam

>>381471469
>Metroid on ice forever
Just like the last series MercurySteam got into.
Thanks Obama!

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Where can I download the rom of zero mission. Eruparadise is kill.

>>381471750
Jesus Christ is that traumatizing.

>>381472345
*that is

>>381471758
More like Thanks Konami, what does Obama even have to do with this?

>>381440834
He didn't leave, but he also doesn't have anything to do with this. He's directing some other game. Also I loved LoS1. It was good because he was being overseen by Kojima/Konami. Once they eased up, Mirror of Fate turned out so-so, and LoS2 was shitty.

>>381471750
Can I just say I love how much of an utter rat bastard Ridley is?
>"Hey Sammy, remember that time I ate your parents? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
This is a Nintendo villain.

>>381473170
>rat bastard
Thank you for bringing this back. I haven't heard it in forever and now I'm going to use it everyfuckingwhere.

But yeah, Ridley's a real mothermurderer

>>381473170
Ridley is legitimately one of my favorite videogame villains because of that.
I love his interactions with Samus in Prime 3

>>381455932
>>381456068
The fuck is this bullshit? Fuck, I actually sort of want to cancel my preorder now. That merch is swag as fuck.

>>381473170
>>381473590
I wish they did more to characterize him in the games without resorting to dialogue. He's definitely one of my favorite vidya villains but they hardly ever show his intelligence and sheer cruelty.

>>381473590
He's basically trolling her in the prologue, and it's great. I really wish they'd play up his serial killer shit in the games, cause it's proper fucked up in a good way. Especially the part about eating people to regenerate.

And Prime 3 had Samus react logically to Ridley's presence, with anger. He killed her parents, her adopted chozo father, helped destroy her culture, and likely slaughtered countless innocents. She's not scared of him, she hates his guts and wants him dead.

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>>381472781
Enjoying your first day on 4chan?

You ain't wrong about Konami though, specifically Kojima. He's the one who decided that Lords of Shadow needed to be a Castlevania game and he used his position to push that, even going so far as to have KP assist with the game which is where all of the "Kojima is directing" rumors came from.

>>381471750
You know I just realized what sakamoto could've done that would have actually made sense

Instead of samus going PTSD physiological regression at the sight of ridley, she goes into a hypnotic blood rage where anything that isn't pumping ridley's purple little holes full of super missiles doesn't exist. All those years playing metroid we had no idea how fuginmad she was under her helmet.

>>381474883
>He's the one who decided that Lords of Shadow needed to be a Castlevania game
So wait, he's the one who FORCED LoS to be a Castlevania game instead of a new IP?
Holy shit, he's as bad as Inafune.

>arm cannon doesnt open when you fire missiles


dropped

>MercurySteam
>casual easymode shit like the scanner and the counter
>Other M Zero Suit with heels confirmed
>Sakamoto confirming there's more focus on THE BABY

It's guaranteed DOA.

>>381474883
>>381475264
I'm not that big of a fan of Kojima myself, but it really is a shame that Silent Hills and ZoE3 both got canned. Both could've been great games.

>>381475582
How is the scanner any different from the x ray visor besides requiring an mp meter to use

>>381475582
>Other M Zero Suit with heels confirmed
I'll bite, but no, it hasn't. The Zero Suit had no heels.

>>381475264
I wouldn't so much say he forced it but he was like "oh hey this should be a Castlevania game" and everyone went with it because it was Kojima. And yes, Kojima, Inafune, and Igarashi are like the holy trinity of formerly great people who managed to fuck things up beyond belief.

>>381475640
>Silent Hills
Dammit Anon why'd you have to remind me?

>>381475545
But it does? Are you blind?

WHY AM I THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS METROIDS ARE CUTE?

>>381475829
>Igarashi
What did he do?
I actually liked Lament of Innocence

>>381475829
>Dammit Anon why'd you have to remind me?

>tfw got a PS4 late so I didn't even get to play PT

>>381475993
fucking
prove
it

>>381475582
>nintendo has a record of getting good games out of shitty developers because they're held to a higher standard
>counter was in the original game, scanner is no different than X-Ray Scope or Scan Visor
>there were no heels to be seen
>making this shit

>>381476192
Counter to me seems like an updated version of the "fake Screw Attack" from Super for some reason.

>>381446871

That's just NoE desperately trying to reach an audience that does not and never will give a shit about them. Europe is Sonyland. NoE has to bribe them with trinkets and special shit no one else gets and even then they don't care.

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>>381476189
Acquire glasses.

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>>381476024
After the massive success of the DS Castlevania games Nintendo thought Igarashi could do no wrong and handed him a shitload of money with little/no supervision and he crapped out a bad fighting game that wouldn't be recognizable as Castlevania if not for the title.

>>381476052
There might still be torrents of the file up Anon, if you're interested you should check.

>>381448837

People have been expecting "Metroid Dread" since before Fusion. It's never happening. Get over it already.

>>381475995
You're not. The problem is the squishy little fuckers would be extremely huggable if they weren't so dangerous.

The pirates tried to make them into pets, and look how that turned out.

>>381475752
>>381476192
>watching the Treehouse demo
>see Scan Pulse pop up
>heart skips a beat
I supposed it'd be too much to have actual scanning in this game, huh? Oh well, game still looks damn good.

>>381476876
>since before Fusion.
The first instance of "Metroid Dread" appeared after Zero Mission's release.

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>>381476192
remember the other time they got Metroid from a third party?

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>>381476837
its supposed to open like this not like that its done it like this since metroid 1

>>381450513

Because there's fucking nothing else to play on the 3DS and owners are desperate.

>>381439256
End yourself

>>381477059
>there fucking nothing else to play on the 3ds

this is where you are wrong

>>381476192
>nintendo has a record of getting good games out of shitty developers because they're held to a higher standard

Every Star Fox game after 64 says otherwise.

>>381439256
same
like I'd actually pay for AM2R shit edition

>>381477192
Even Nintendo can't produce a good Star Fox game

>>381477192
Assault was decent. Not great or anything, but serviceable.

>>381476876
>After Zero Mission
Also Sakamoto in an IGN interview hinted at Metroid Dread once again being in development. Don't expect the game to follow the original concept though, Sakamoto in 2010 stated that he wished to start the project from scratch. It's questionable whether Sakamoto will make it for 3DS or Switch though, we'll see.

>>381477029
But that's wrong. It's only ever opened like that in the first Prime game. It never opened at all in Metroid, and only started opening in Metroid 2. Prime 2 and 3 changed the opening position to the original way.
Fusion uses a different opening position, since the entire arm canon opens up.
Other M and by extension Samus Returns does change it a bit due to the design change, but it still opens up the same way it did in II, Super, Zero Mission, Prime 2 and 3.

>>381465338

The Fusion Varia sprite always looked strange to me. Official art has a pink/purple underlayer and a yellow outer later, but the sprite has a yellow/orange underlayer and a lime outer layer, but purple shadows.

>>381477192
Fuck you nigger I liked Starfox Adventure

>>381477192
I didn't say a perfect record. Which I suppose works against my argument.

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>>381477029
Are you quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker ever?

>>381477674
but its opening just like in prime 1 in that

>>381439256
Leave pirating to shit you're not sure you'd actually want to play. Shit like this which is a low gamble and from a series that is both loved and near death deserves our money.
>>381439346
This is a true piratefag. A model citizen.
/salute

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>>381477812
Holy shit, shut up.

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Anyone still play Federation Force? I just picked it up and want to do co-op, but the only people I team up with are the odd off Japanese player.

>>381476192
>counter was in the original game

What?

>scanner is no different than X-Ray Scope or Scan Visor

Well almost. The scanner reveals rooms on your map in a pretty big radius. But that doesn't really matter. I actually never cared for the x-ray visor because it's basically cheating. I like it better when the room designer gives a shit and drops hints on where the hidden paths are with visual cues.

>>381476395
>Counter to me seems like an updated version of the "fake Screw Attack" from Super for some reason.

You mean charge jumping? That kind of makes the situation worse because that was already a good melee mechanic that doesn't require you to stop and wait.

>EU gets all the best special edition stuff
>AGAIN

Fucking why though? Europe doesn't give a single solitary fuck about Nintendo.

>>381477920
clearly the artist got it wrong

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>>381439256
Gee I wonder who could be behind his post

>>381477029
>It's opening like every 2D metroid ever and not like prime REEEEE

Euthanize yourself

>>381477982
I apologize, when I read counter, I thought the Metroid counter showing how many Metroids there were.

>>381477029
Primebabbies need to be gassed.

>>381448816
>buying amiibos for anything but the figure itself

>>381478063
Give up already. You've been proven wrong twice.

>>381450480
lel

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>>381478149
Are we posting 3DS themes now?

>>381477931
I kind of have to wonder if people would've been more lenient toward FF if it didn't have that chibi art style. Plenty of folks were legit interested in a game about Feddie troopers ever since Prime 3 showed them doing cool shit and not being fucking useless. So it seems like such a poor move to change the art style from Metroid's typically gritter, Alien inspired aesthetic, to this not even particularly appealing cartoony one.

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>>381477920

>>381477029
No it's not, Prime got this wrong, Prime also got the Plasma Beam, Space Jump, Spider Ball, Grapple Beam, and Samus Visor color when in the Gravity Suit on wrong.

>>381479041
>ever since Prime 3
Since Prime 2, actually. And this was despite the team shown there being slaughtered.

>>381477931
I sometimes still play it. But not much.

>>381442212
Why would you recommend a shitty fan remake?

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>>381479041
I think they would have shit on it regardless because it wasn't a 'true' metroid game.

I would like to see an Arena or CoD-ish FPS multiplayer featuring the Federation and Space Pirates.

The Conduit proved you could do that and be a semi success.

>>381479215
I rather like the change from green to blue for the Gravity Suit. It fits somehow.

>>381479332
>shitty

>>381479334

Metroid Prime Hunters was that, except without the Federation or Pirates.

I seriously wish Fed Force was a sequel to that.

>>381442212
It's not "cinematic." Spider-Man PS4 is "cinematic."

>>381479041
>I kind of have to wonder if people would've been more lenient toward FF if it didn't have that chibi art style.

People would've have been a lot more lenient if it wasn't 6 years since a shit metroid game, 9 years since a decent metroid game, 12 years since a good metroid game.

>>381479029
Oh fuck, I want that. I'd have to jailbreak my 3DS for it, wouldn't I?

>>381479296
True. It was the trooper logs, man. This game made me give a shit about a bunch of redshirts. Angseth and Haley especially.

>>381479334
Nobody ever objected to the idea of a spinoff. But a spinoff in the middle of a time where the franchise ain't doing so hot, and has a radically different art style? Not exactly a wise move there.

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>>381439346
>gateway.

>>381479812
>jailbreak

its called hacking it and yes you "jailbreak" an iphone you do not do so to a 3ds

>>381479536
No.

MPH and The Conduit are vastly different with the only overlap being they have online matches and are FPS.

>>381480052
W-whatever anon.

>>381472130
Just google it nigga romhustler.com

>>381480083

Never played the Conduit, but Hunters is definitely an arena FPS and was a fairly good one.

>>381479534
Congratulations, you can read.

>>381469506

Only if you have friends to play with.

I'm actually with all you nintendo nerds on this one, looking forward to this sitting snug in my 3ds after I beat dq7

>>381480718
buy
a
switch

played surface and area1 ask me anything

>>381481275
how far into the game does samus get raped for the first time?

>>381439256
same

>>381481553
first time diying was in the second acid pool. panicked and couldn't get out fast enough

>>381442212
Why cant I play both faggot? AM2R is a great fan game but it dosen't change the fact that it's not a Real metroid game.

>B-But Muh Mirror of Fate

Wow, that game from 5 years ago headed by konami. You sure showed us.

>>381480260
The big differences are that in The Conduit you pick up weapons on the map and it's much more team based while MPH is free for all.

I would also use Call of Duty as an example, but I'm sure that's to loaded.

Anybody want to play Metroid Prime online mod for Halo CE?

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Anyone else terrified that the level design looks bland as hell?

All the rooms look really similar. Very boxy with enemies scattered about.

Nothing like what Super Metroid had, like that dark tunnel lit with fireflies. Or the floor lined with carnivorous plants, wasps flying out of the floor and little platforms to hop between. That game had so many memorable rooms and all of M:SR's level design looks very dull.

>>381479029
>Instead of letting us make our own themes and backgrounds the big N decided to be ultra Jews and lock their own shitty themes behind absurd amounts of money
I hate this gay fucking Earth.

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>>381481275
Did you like it?

>>381483334
We saw 30 min of it in a Nintendo Treehouse... Where they take their time to show things... The full game is yet to be seen buddy !

>>381479041
I would have

if they treated FF like Hunters but with co-op, I would have been first in line to buy it. the artstyle was the real deal breaker, not the gameplay

>>381484132

The trip down to the morphball in Super had more interesting level design than what they showed. And they had already reached Omega Metroids!

>>381483334
well it is a remake of a gameboy game and we've only seen about a half hours worth.

i'm pretty optimistic about the final product.

Should I get Super Metroid on the 3ds virutal console? I've never played a metroid game before. Also are the 3ds controls good for a game like this?

test

>>381486567
Yeah, definitely. Do it.

>>381486567

Idk the controls are a bit dated, I always play with the control freak patch nowadays

>>381484810
I'm sure they showed bits of a similar zone (they had multiple saves) ... to not spoil too much about the game. Let's hope there are multiple zones yes.

Just finished Super Metroid yesterday and I understand what you mean, the game feels different from Lower Norfair to Brinstar... but I think that Samus returns will deliver.

>>381447920
it was literally his fault. I assume you mean the head of Mercurysteam? (not the Konami UK guy) because it's his fault Lords of Shadow 2 was such a shitshow.

>>381487761
It's funny how people have no idea about what happened with LOS.

LOS is a legit good game and also a good Castlevania (and I'm myself a big fan of Castlevania). Everybody say that it sucks just because it's not MUH CASTLEVANIA. I'm open to change but as long as the game is fun and interesting. LOS has the best atmosphere I've ever seen since Metroid Prime 1. The art is fucking good, the ost is amazing, and the level design is pretty good for a linear game. Even the gameplay is interesting because the combos are easy to learn and to memorize. I know that the hitbox are a bit messy at times but not as much as some bosses in Dark Souls.

Well after that I can understand that you don't like the later LOS, because MOF is mediocre and doesn't live up the legacy of the Metroidvania. And LOS 2 is annoying as hell outside the past sequences. Alvarez sabotaged the game full force. It was not supposed to be this bad.

Mercury steam is a competent studio, full of talented artists. With Nintendo on board I think that the game is in good hands, and apparently, they are just doing the code stuffs so ... just give it a chance, it's probably going to be a good collaboration just like Luigi's Mansion Dark moon was.

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You could just play a better game.

>>381489465

Which game?

>>381489969
The game pictured in the post you're replying to.

>>381490026

Oh right, I thought you said a better game.

>>381439346
Just hacked my 3DS recently and used wii u usb helper to download 32GB of vidya. I'm going to preorder the europe special edition because why the fuck not.

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>>381489332
>Mercury steam is a competent studio, full of talented artists

>>381439256
hey guys i'm a PIRATE i PIRATE games lol

>>381480963
I don't know man I'm a salty wiiu owner. My love for nintendo petered out early 2016.

>>381439256
Kill yourself, you piece of shit

>>381486567
Yes and play with headphones

>>381487005
He's never played a metroid game before so there's no way he'd care. And even if he had only played both GBA games he'd need to play with the original controls to form his own opinion.

>>381492116
>mom look ! I trolled mercurysteam again !

Implying you know what kind of people work at MS. You can say what you want about the mediocre LOS games but the team has some very good 2D and 3D artists anon. What made LOS 2 a shitty game is because it was directed by a moron who made the development hellish for everyone. End of the story, sometimes even the best sport teams will lose against some pretty cheap teams, because there are some problems between the players. It's what happened inside MercurySteam.