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>>381430197
Nothing, everything literally went right with this.
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>>381430197
Capcom got greedy and tried going for the casual western audience that they'll never catch in a million years.
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>>381430257
>fireflies
>monster health
>removing most of the vulnerability when healing

it will still be fun but to so say they didn't fuck up a lot of things is pure delusion.
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>>381430197
>we want the western audience
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Nvm ist mh after all
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>>381430372
>Fireflies
Same shit as the paintball. In fact, I think it's better.

>Monster Health
Still not clear how that works. Not really a health bar. Either I'm sure it's optional and you can just ignore it, but that is my only legit concern.

>Vulnerability

Just stand still until the animation finishes if you miss flexing so much, but you won't. We all know you won't.
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You know exactly what went wrong.
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If its really pandering to west audience. it will be ubi-type open world game. but its not.
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>>381430197
>not on any handheld, japan sales will tank hard
>vastly increased budget meaning expected sales are a lot higher as well, won't reach those
>fireflies way too noticeable and prominent
>monster health/status meter
>can walk while healing and dodge roll out of the animation too
>too much focus on environmental traps and having other monsters do damage to your target
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They brought rathalos back
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>>381432532
You're thinking of the last zelda
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>>381430712
>>Monster Health

Not a health bar, the pulse think on the bottom is just a signal for when the monster is enraged (no different from the usual signs of anger) and it also signals when the monster is close to die (to prevent you from killing it on a capture mission before he gets the chance to limp)
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>>381432198
What's happening in this comic?
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>>381432742
so, casualized, then
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>>381430197
You faggots is what went wrong, the game isn't even out yet for fucks sake
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>>381430197
ur brain during its formation
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>>381432835
The one and ONLY thing that's somewhat casualized. It's not even that bad, but you faggots will cling to this and proclaim it as the end of all Monster Hunter.
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>>381433084
What about being able to run while using items and rolling out of their animation?
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>>381433132
FUCKING DELETE THIS MHW WILL BE AWESOME!
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>>381433124
That's added because the monsters are more aggressive and you can't just go to the next area to heal. And it's not even running, you're walking in much slower pace. Just stand still if you think it's too casualized.
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>>381433337
So as someone who never played MHO, where does it fall short in comparison to "normal" MH?

Visually it's nice, where does it suck?
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>>381433084
>only

There's fuckton others like the free enviroment trap, instant heal item while moving at full speed, staggering rathanos with ranged side arm, that shitty bush mechanic, mid hunt gear change, cancel roll etc

Also, what pissed me off the most is that they removed visual effect for effective attack.
Damage number is almost a must at is currently the only way to tell whether you're hitting the right spot or not.
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This
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>>381433434
Chink only
MMO
Kinda shit animations at times
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>>381432774
autism
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>>381433132
I never press like, I just watch videos.
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>>381430257
No, no, you don't know it because you are new but back then MH was all about experience and helping the less experienced people. Some people didn't know what the monster's weaksposts are after 500 hours. It was fun finding it out, studying the monster's body, blood splatter, stagger caps and kill times etc. Now you just read a number and know everything.

It's kinda horrible now and Capcom has lost it.
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>>381433430
>monster more agressive

Based on that Rathanos battle? Nah.
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>>381433132

Jesus fucking christ, Nintenbros are so fucking mad that they're trying to use statistical analysis to disprove the viewcount for a fucking trailer.

You LITERALLY CANNOT make this shit up.
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>>381433430
>Just stand still if you think it's too casualized.
Love this argument. It's like children not knowing anything about psychology, like they were never even reflecting or thinking about their own feelings. Basically 70 IQ.
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>>381433578
>this amount of salt over being exposed
sorry, it's now proven capcom and sony viewbotted it and paid off arekkz and wifebeaterhunter in hopes of it generating interest and sales
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>>381433561
MOMMY

Show your breasts.
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>>381433517
>implying thats not the coolest fucking shit
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>>381433561
gamefags ruined mh?
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>>381430197
when will i be able to play the role of veggie elder?
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>>381433643
no amount of crying will give you mhw on your waggle machine
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>>381433683
Why post such a shitty webm?

>>381433723
Not looking up cheats and tricks doesn't feel like crippling yourself. You can get the most out of the game. And believe it or not, many if not most people actually never check out those sites until they've finished basically all the main game and just want to minmax and farm talis.
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>>381433712
>spin 5 times in the air
>cool

Even dark souls have cooler animation than that.
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>>381430197
>MHXX annnounce for Switch
"NINTENDOMINATION! NEVER EVER FOR OTHER PLATFORMS LOL!"

>MHW announced for all platforms except Switch
>Capcom stated that MHXX will NEVER EVER be localized
"MH i-is dead n-now! T-this s-shit will f-flop! A-at least we have Rabbids x Mario t-to look forward to!" *sobs uncontrollably*

Karma at its finest, /v/.
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>>381433814
Good, I'll play the superior MHXX and then MH5 Decasualized Portable :)
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>>381433631
Well it's true. Just stand still until the animation finishes if you love it so much you purist fag.
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>>381433517
Holy fuck that look dope
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>>381433932
>>381433712
>1 week ago
>MHXX IS SHIT IT'S TOO ANIME WITH RIDICULOUS MOVES MHW WILL BE CLASSIC MH WITH NONE OF THAT BULLSHIT SONY WON

>turns out MHW has a ton of anime attacks too
>Wow I always liked this anime is great anyone else here /weeb/? :3
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>>381430197

The Batman vision bugs suck, from both a gameplay and aesthetic perspective. I really hope they're like the damage numbers optional and not part of the core gameplay.

Nagging, handholdy tutorial voice also sucks, but I understand that's probably just for demo purposes. Same with the relatively low damage output the monsters have, at least hopefully.

Other than that, I don't really have any complaints other than FUCK YOU FOR NOT LOCALIZING XX YOU GREEDY SHITS.

Will probably pick up World at launch.
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>>381433643
Views don't... You know what? Fuck it. Think what you want.
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>>381433897
What is true? That you are a retard and have zero insight into human nature? True.

No one likes to cripple himself. That's the worst thing. It's like playing fighting games with your little niece.
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>>381430197
As someone who doesn't even play these games (I have like 30 hours in Tri and that's it) I don't see what the fuck the "going for western audience" thing is about. It looks like the same thing to me with the addition of a Lost Planet style hookshot.
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>>381434097
>as someone who doesn't know anything about x, I don't see....

Wow thanks for your contribution champ
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Some nintendo fans really think Switch can hundle MHW well. That's what it makes me laugh. they also say sony paid capcom to not release it for switch lol.
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>>381434026
Why you gotta assume I'm a faggot, i always love monster hunter, I'm getting both
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>>381433517

That looks awesome. What's the issue here? The only thing that looks worrisome is the guy talking to you on the right, but I think I remember reading that you can turn that off. It could also be an early quest so might just be part of the tutorial.

>>381434026
>/v/ is one person
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>>381434045
Bugs are optional, numbers can be turned off. The button prompts and tutorial talk I'd only for you guessed it the tutorial. Not sure if the monsters are weak. You good anon.
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>>381433834
you obviously dont know what cool is
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>Vow to never buy another Ninenshit platform again after their bout of censoring everything for the Wii U
>Too bad I'll miss out on the MH games, those were the only thing Nintendo had left.
>mfw MH announced for PC
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>>381434187
>/v/ i-is only o-o-one person

weird how you never see those "fuck anime MH" people anymore though
they mysteriously vanished right after we got the gameplay

a real RIDDLE I dare say
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>>381434069
So you'll take advantage of the supposed casualized healing even though you hate it. I know what you are, a h y p o c r i t e and a armchair psychologist.
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>>381433562
>Based on a tutorial level? Nah. Everyone knows Great Jaggi is the most aggressive and fierce fight in the game.
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>>381434158
World doesn't do anything technologically impressive, the fucking Wii could run this game with a heavy downgrade.
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>>381433683
>>381433337
Why can't Capcom just make a standard MH game with these visuals + framerate? Isn't that what basically everyone wants?
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>>381434026
>an attack it always had, only now coming off of a ledge
>this is the same as hyper flying rapid spin attacks with explosions and sparks
Can someone just please post a webm every time someone actually tries to say they're similar? I would but I can't.
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>>381434497
Because they are abandoning the japanese audience (no handheld) and banking on this game having a huge breakthrough in the west to make it extremely popular

won't happen though
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>>381434143
My point is that I'm part of the western audience they are apparently now catering to and I see no extra appeal in this one, dumbass.
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>>381430197
Nothing, it's a good thing since Capcom is killing the only thing keeping them afloat.
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>>381434549
The Japanese love it so far.
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>>381434497
Rehashing 3U with just new monsters would be too easy, even though that is easy profit for little work done
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>>381434675
Based on what?
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>>381434429
So where is the MHW level technologically game on switch? I want see it
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>>381434870
BotW has a bigger world, better physics, better AI. The only thing World has is graphical detail that can easily be turned down.
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Nothing
You faggots complain about everything, shit looks great.
Instead of literally hating everything why can't we talk and speculate positive things for once.
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>>381434974
mhw is on mt framework which can easily run on the switch at 30fps
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>>381434787
>I also need the XX hentai routes.

What did Nipkun mean by this?
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>>381430372
Scoutflies are both manually used and make finding the monster far more involving than it ever has been.
The heartbeat is as vague a healthbar as you can get, pointless to add but affects nothing.
You run slow and heal slow, you can't heal through things anymore and they can actually chase you throughout the map. There's still a ton of vulnerability.
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>>381434787
>It is not a dino crisis, but something terribly dinosaur
Made me smile for some reason
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>>381435005
mario and rabbits is powered by snow drop so division can run switch! Thank you UBI!
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>>381434787
Everything I'd seen before this one picture.
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>>381433132
>Shows it off at E3
>Biggest gaming show
>Pretty much everything gets over a million views just by existing
I mean good that MH is getting more popular in the west but comparing a giant E3 showing to a normal Nintendo Direct isn't really the same.
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>>381434974
Do you know even prey developer said switch is too weak for the game right?
Also breath of the wild is nothing about tech game.
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>>381430197
Each MHW salt thread created by Nintentards only serves to reaffirm /v/'s belief that Nintencůcks are literally the most retardedly toxic and shittiest fanbabbies ever existed.
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>>381434974
>better AI
Lol, have you even played the game? Enemies are retarded, archers won't even attack you if you get too close.
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>>381434549
Why are you still going by the bullshit leak instead of just using your head?
Does the damn game look anyway close to being westernized?
It still has anime moves, it's still the same janky ass monster hunter ass monster hunter with all that entails.

You're making a storm out of nothing to shitpost.
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They shit on their loyal customers. This always backfires.
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>>381430197
They're trying to appeal to Tribabby realismfags, and failing at it with scoutflies, heartbeat sensor and no flexing.
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>>381433490
>>381433562
>Rathanos

Are you spelling Rathalos wrong or is that the name of the new monster? If not, I want to ask you how long you've been playing MH.
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its not on nintendo
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>>381434974
>nigger world

This doesn’t mean anything. just cause 2 has
usually 20 times bigger world than every current gen open world games and its last gen game.
Zelda does not care about seamless dungeons including shrines. its more important than the area size
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>>381430197
>What went wrong?

What went wrong is people don't like MH, they like the company that made a console they own.

Now that it's on something they don't have, it's foxes and grapes.
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>>381430197
Its not out yet nothing has "Gone Wrong"... yet
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>>381435135
the healthbeat is literally a free capture guru
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>>381430197
They ditched the only people keeping their shifty franchise alive
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>>381436353
These fags have yet to even define what they mean by catering to the west. They just want to cry about something for whatever reason.
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>>381434026
>>1 week ago
>>MHXX IS SHIT IT'S TOO ANIME WITH RIDICULOUS MOVES MHW WILL BE CLASSIC MH WITH NONE OF THAT BULLSHIT SONY WON
I asked here what's wrong with XX literally 2 weeks before E3 and everyone told me it's not anime attacks but boring dragged out missions and terrible style balance
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>>381430197
They flipped off their main purchasers for the second time in a decade to appeal to another audience who probably doesn't give a fuck about their game despite what the YouTube view counter says (most of it is probably people trying to nitpick every detail of every teaser anyway)
Capcom loves fucking over its user base. MegaMan, DMC, etc
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>>381437379
Depends on whether being on the "low health" level is actually low enough for them to be captured.
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>anon in a thread says you can fast travel to specific monsters and hunters
>rewatching the gameplay demo, notice none of them actually do, they only move between camps
Just putting it out there in case others were mistaken.
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>>381438065
Imagine how utterly fucked Capcom would be if Nintendo didn't allow them to publish Monster Hunter on handhelds again after World inevitably fails to perform in the Western market? Where are they gonna go, the Vita?
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>>381438492
This


Those retards threw away the only thing keeping them alive

Enjoy bankruptcy morons
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>>381434787
We're better at this game than they are. They just use MonHun as a fucking fashion simulator.
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I think that moving mainline to consoles/PC instead of keeping it on the 3DS, Switch, or maybe even the Vita is a mistake.

I know that World is basically Monster Hunter 5, but I don't think it should be. It should have been basically "Monster Hunter Console", ala MH Portable before it, even if it doesn't have that name. An experimental spinoff that could eventually grow into something bigger, if enough westerners end up clinging to it.

As it stands now, they're potentially setting themselves up for a massive failure. They're alienating they're core audience by not releasing it on a handheld, as the fanbase in Japan that's kept the series going for all of these years is clearly all about that portable gaming. If the westerners they're trying to bring in with this new venture don't bite, they will have fucked themselves. Hardcore fans feel betrayed because they want to play Monster Hunter on the go, and their new audience doesn't give a fuck. Given that this is probably an expensive fucking move by Capcom, I could easily see this severely damaging if not killing the Monster Hunter IP if it fails to meet sales expectations.

Nothing has gone wrong yet, save for maybe the Batman bugs or moving while healing, but they've certainly put themselves in a position where shit could. Very (morbidly) curious to pick up and try World on the PC when all is said and done.
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>>381438714
Mainline started on consoles, you dip. 4 was the only mainline game that only got a handheld release.
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>>381438586
>this nigger really thinks nintendo would refuse having monster hunter back
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>>381438714
>I know that World is basically Monster Hunter 5
I GUARANTEE that there will be a real Monster Hunter 5. Capcom are saying that World is the next "mainline" Monster Hunter, but that's just empty marketing speak.
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>>381439087
Yeah, And?

The series only really found it's footing when it came to the PSP, which is what lead us to the point where eventually portable became mainline with 4. What I'm saying is that discounting that and doing the opposite of the strategy that was selling gangbusters.
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I know it's a reddit link but I posted it there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/6itsww/ever_wonder_why_the_views_for_mhworld_trailer/

Anywhere else I should post this? Can someone re-tweet this to the MHWorld twitter that was bragging about views?

inb4 someone calls me conspiracy theorist
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>>381439665
>I know it's a reddit link but I posted it there.

That does not make it any better. No one wants to be sharing a board with crossposters.

Leave.
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>>381434417
Not that other guy, but I see where he's coming from. When I'm hunting, I want the feeling of trying my best to beat a monster and using all the resources I have at my disposal. I loved preparing for a big hunt by crafting traps and potions so i can really go all out. That's what made the earlier monhuns like MHFU so fun for me. Gimping myself would just feel like I'm not experiencing a real challenge.
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>>381438714
And I think restricting the series to consoles that require you to fuck up your hands to enjoy, consoles that can only handle basic PS2 era models, consoles that require you to break the map into zones just to function is just plain retarded

>>381439342
You uninformed nigger, MHW was in-house called MH5 for the majority of development before World stuck to make the game seem less intimidating.
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>>381440048
Well the majority of Japanese player, the series original target demo, seem to disagree. Being able to enjoy the game in a way that's convenient to them and their lifestyles is more important. There's nothing wrong with the series staying mid-budget and niche, especially when it's raking in big profit margins. Not everything needs to be a AAA blockbuster with high end graphics. All they're doing by trying to take the series in this direction is creating a lot of risk in an attempt to get rewards from an audience that may or may not respond to it, instead of appealing to the audience that's been supporting them for years.

I'm not a console wars guys, but people are false flagging super hard so you'll probably think this is fanboy tears or whatever, but the Switch was literally the perfect home for Monster Hunter. At least, the Monster Hunter we'd come to know pre-World. Japan gets their portable Monster Hunter experience, and the west get's their console Monster Hunter experience. With controller options, seemless transition if you want to take it with you on the go, and even slightly improved graphics that arn't on a 240p screen anymore. All in one convenient package, no need to by multiple copies to achieve it like in 3U. It's the best of both worlds, a middle ground where every Monster Hunter fan would have won.

Hopefully World is DAMN FUCKING GOOD to make up for all of that lost potential.
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>>381434787
>Who is it for? seriously mysterious

based
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>>381433517

so it's basically Dragon's Dogma 2 then? I like it
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I wonder if Sony paying Capcom to not put World on the Switch is a real thing or not
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>>381440951
When the last of power/proper hardware is actively restricting the potential of the series then to say that it's "fine" for it to stay that is way is plain retarded.
>Being able to enjoy the game in a way that's convenient to them and their lifestyles is more important.
Not to me and many others. Why would I put them over me and mine? I pay and support the series and much as any Jap.
>instead of appealing to the audience that's been supporting them for years.
A fallacy, hyperbole and assumptions all rolled into one. I have seen many core MH fans be excited for World (as am I) both by the game itself and by the fact that it's on proper consoles and not some 240p screen with an adults FPS on PC. I have most games but the most fun I've had with the series bar none wasn't on a 3DS or a PSP, it was on the Wii or emulating on my with a proper controller in hand.
> Not everything needs to be a AAA blockbuster
In what universe do you live in where MH isn't, especially in japan, a AAA blockbuster series?

>spoiler
Despite what you claim and your best efforts, you sure do sound like a buttmad, 1 console baby. Import XX (which by the sounds of it you must be a big fan of), it's not going anywhere.
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>>381443539
Yes, Sony is paying capcom to not release MH on switch and instead release it on it's main competitors, the xbone and PC in America.
That makes so much sense.
It's totally not because they started making it 4 years ago before the Switch was even announced and they don't have time or resources to port a majorly downgraded version to the Switch.
Sony must be paying them. It's the only explanation.
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Monster Hunter isn't even complex. It's just repetitive and requires immense patience to play. It's not casualization, it's optimization to make it more fun and less of an autistic chore, and they aren't even deviating away from the formula anyway so it's not even that big of a dealbreaker for core fans.

But crybaby brandfaggots will whine that they have been completely abandoned and that it's basically skyrim with a claw shot.
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>>381444551
They're bringing change to an autistic fanbase and millions of Japs who are also equally autistic, of course there's going to be complaints.
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