He fucking did nothing wrong given his situation.

i bet you feel the same about hitler

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>>381412374
theres literally nothing wrong with exterminating inferior bloodlines instead of waiting years for them to fizzle out on their own

what are some video games

Yeah, killing your friends because of your blind rage is nothing wrong. He's a pretty humble guy.

>>381412374
>does something morally questionable
>"Hitler was also very morally questionable, so you are wrong and I am very smart :)"
Also everything brad did was completely justified

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Buddy was a terrible character

>>381412321
Right or wrong have nothing to do with it. He simply did what he was driven to do.

Oh boy it's another repost thread. I mean wanting to talk about LISA is fine, but does it always have to have the same opener?

>>381412529
"Friends."
Please.

>>381412321
chop his arms.

>>381412529
>blind rage
He was trying to stop a child from being repeatably raped

>>381413046
Sorry if this is a common thread. I just finished the game and I liked it over all but holy hell the whole "you went too far Braaad" shit had me livid.

brad was a joy mutant so debating his morality is irrelevant

>>381412529
They're living in a post-apocalyptic wasteland and the only female alive is his adoptive child. Everything bad that happens both to Buddy happens because she was stolen form his care.

He did the wrong things for the right reasons.

>>381412321
>Finds only remaining girl left on Earth as far as he knows
>Decides to raise her
>Manages to protect her and teach her what she needed to know to survive
>When she gets kidnapped, he tears the world apart trying to get her back

His biggest mistakes were being a drug addict and not trusting Rando with Buddy from the beginning. Other than that, killing everybody to save Buddy is easily justified considering Buddy's important and the environment they were in. As far as Brad knew, she was just going to get raped to death by perverts. He wasn't saving Buddy because she was a girl, but because he wanted to make amends. Still, even though he's no perfect he's hardly the monster the game tries to make him out to be. At worst he's selfish, but for good reasons.

>>381413316
He is forced to overdose well into the game by Buzzo or whatever his name is. He only starts mutating during the fight with Rando's army.

>>381412321
What did he do

>>381413316
You only turn to a Joy Mutant when you lack a purpose. Brad turned when Buddy rejected during the final boss because his whole meaning to existence was protecting her, so losing that he mutated. Same with Buzzo, he lived to torture Brad and redeem Lisa but he mutated when he lost the will to do so.

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The only think Brad did wrong was not loving dusty

>>381413179
>im-fucking-plying
Buddy was better off with Rando. Not this meth addicted psycho-freak

>>381413387
Joy mutations only happen during times of great stress or injury. It's entirely possible that Brad would've mutated anyway because of his previous addiction. Buzzo just made sure it would happen.

Rando shouldn't have held back

>>381413669
I didn't say he wouldn't be. But he had no idea what type of person Rando was (since he had no idea it was dusty unless im misremembering). As far as he knew, she was going to an armies sex slave.

>>381413669
Rando was a good guy but he was shown not having control over his men on the ground. Buddy would have been raped as soon as he turned his back.

>>381413795
i didn't say she wouldn't be*

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>/v/ tells me Brad did something wrong
>play the game
>mfw Brad does nothing wrong

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>>381413848
All he had to do is to let go. This fuck chases her even after his death. How is this not wrong?

He fucked with the odds the human race would survive just so he could finally play dad. But it would take a real fucked up individual to do any differently.

And he was a pretty fucking terrible adoptive father to Dusty.

>>381413781
Rando didn't hold back. It's just that Brad's the best.
>>381413795
We're never told if Brad knew who Rando was, but it's entirely possible he does since just wants to forget about him judging by him denying that he had a son, and that Dusty still obviously cares about him and gave him rations.

dingaling did everything wrong

>>381414164
Worst of all, he let Widdly 2 Diddly die.

>>381414164
I used to really respect him but it seems like the second the smallest bit of fame hit him he turned into a massive SJW. Lisa itself is red-pilled as fuck, it could've been a game about men being perverted dickheads but he handled it well. Based on his recent tweets, I don't think he could make another game like Lisa again.

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Who cares about Brad, what matters is who's your favorite party member?

Who is Brad?
You mean Nobody?

I wanted the game with him and his friends at the beginning in his party. Why was it changed?

>>381413385
Painkillers sure but Buzzo was going out of his way from the very beginning to keep Brad in the dirt and supply him with Joy. No hate boner for Brad by Buzzo, no Joy.

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>>381414315
Special mention for Terry who also kept a spot in my party everytime

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>>381414315
>>381414568
I was just about to post him, good taste

>>381414404
Probably changed we he realized having a wide cast of disposable characters and keeping the narrative about one man's journey was better. Game was also supposed to have a sneaking mechanic, a lot changed. The beta was a totally different game.

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>>381414315
"Fly away, fly away. Fight another day... Fight another day..."

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What the FUCK was his problem???

I gotta be honest, I kinda like the game more when it's playing up it's goofy ass HnKxEarthbound stuff
I dunno why they're throwing hammers

>>381414586
I liked it and I was gonna buy it but eh, once it changed I had a different opinion on it so I just watched vids of some random playing the whole thing.

Not saying it's bad, looks good.

>>381414628
Beating the game 3 times I still don't know. All I really grasped was he had a plan to take over the world with the joy mutants, I think. Somehow Buddy was born to help with this?

I literally have no idea what his plan was, how it feel apart, or why, but I'm sure there's enough clues to piece it together. All I got was he's Buddy's father and the reason everything went to shit was because he had some evil plan or something.

>>381414628
Who knows? You can really tell how rushed Joyful was by how they don't really do much with Yado

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>>381414315
>mfw shock lord terry and birdie was the party i had going into the last boss.
They didnt fight back and it killed me a little inside

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The bulldozer part is by far and above my favorite vidya segment.
Any bad parts of the game were fully redeemed with it.

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post yfw joy mutant perm killed a party member

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Thoughts on fan games?

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>>381415081

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>>381415081
I've never seen a party member die

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>>381415081
>mandatory russian roulette
>go through a good ten bros before the other fucker dies

>>381414841
From what I gather, his plan was as follows:
>make joy mutants controllable by the sound of his trumpet
>make all the women disappear and send the rest of the male population towards disorder
>plant one last woman in Olathe - his genetically modified supersoldier daughter
>tribes go to war against each other to capture the last woman
>the last woman additionally starts killing the men around her, at least at first out of self-defense
>everyone is basically killing each other to near extinction
>in the end Yado rolls up with his mutant army, destroys the survivors of the previous conflicts and end up ruling the world with his "children"

Also, Brad did EVERYTHING wrong

>>381415103
Pointless is really good

>I'd let my child run away with a gang!
Never become a father /v/

>Joyful
>you spend most of the game using a single party member
>in a fucking RPG
What was he thinking
Although the RPG is the worst part of LISA anyway so I don't think that would have fixed anything

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>>381415193
>Not save scumming until you get a flawless victory

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*bites your head*

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>>381415103
Pointless is very promising

Hopeful was lovely.

Joel is best boy.

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>>381414261
His dad dying probably had a huge effect on him. I'm waiting until we find out about the game because we don't even have a screenshot right now.

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>>381415081

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>>381415415
It was on the 'fuck your checkpoints' mode

>>381414261
I wouldn't really call Lisa "red-pilled" but that outburst of his still seemed out of character. Either he pulled the biggest ruse of all time or was in a bad state of mind and revealed his real power level.
I need to start following the golden rule of not looking at the twitter of game devs I like.

>>381415472
There was a save point right before then. Unless you didn't ration them and had no saves for after the boss fight with Fuck You Indian and his brother

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>>381415417

>>381415535
What was the tweet in question?

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>>381415687

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>>381414081
>have fucked up past but try to redeem yourself by protecting a little girl from getting torn apart by a bunch of rapists and psychopaths for being the only girl around
>little girl gets stolen but you lose friends and parts of yourself along the way just to get her back
>end up murdering a shit ton of dudes because you're fucked up by joy and anybody would assume black cape and red skull face = bad guys
>little girl blames you for everything and you die

>>381415704
It was a bunch of full white-guilt mode tweets the day after the US election

>>381415417
>>381415687
>>381415758
This thing gave me a spook real fierce

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>>381415771
Because little girl can handle shit by herself

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>>381416062
>Buddyfags

The message is that good intentions do not justify your actions

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>>381416062
Joyful is literal fanfiction tier garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INQwuHga-Rg
One of my favorite songs in the ost

>>381416884
I don't think it was bad, but it was horribly uneven and pretentious. It starts off okay, but only because it's fairly rigidly structured and there's not a whole lot of deviation you can do and it's clear how many healing items were needed. The second half is a clusterfuck because there's no downside to using Joy and even popping pills like they were nothing and abandoning healing items all together near the end I still had about 20 left for the final boss.

Then there's the story which just sucks. It DOES manage to answer some lingering questions, but it's horribly presented. What's fucking worse is I learned the ending text-only scene changes between one of three things based on totally arbitrary things you saw or did during the DLC. Then there' details like whether or not Buddy is holding a baby in the ending, the option that changes the result seems totally unrelated and doesn't make sense when even when you think about it which just makes it clear that that's the point and we're supposed to interpret it like good art school dickheads should.

4/10 - Only for people who seriously liked the base game

Austin did not put much thought into Joyful
For example, enemies kept dropping perfumes even though you only have 1 party member

>>381415220
that's a pretty damn retarded plan.

>>381417464
That's why people have trouble understanding the whole Yado backstory. The information is there, but his plan is just so obtuse, convoluted, and easily foiled by any thousands of different elements that it's almost impossible to think there isn't more to it.

>>381413385
I agree with everything except the part about Rando. Brad had no idea who Rando is and from an outsiders perspective he is this huge intimidating warlord leading one of the scariest gangs in the wasteland. Hardly seems like the kind of fellow to entrust the last girl to.

>>381413781
At that point of the game Brad was about 3/4 a Joy mutant, and those are some of the most terrifyingly strong entities in the game.

>>381415220
Wait, if he could make all the women disappear what stopped him from doing the same to the men?

>>381412321
He did a lot of bad shit for the best possible reasons, he's sympathetic but not innocent. Did nothing wrong is reserved for best boy Rando

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Well /v/?

>>381418050
He's a man, so...

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>>381418213
Brad, alive, at least he was before Buddy fucked everythang up

>>381418259
I'm sure that as the creator he would know how to avoid his weapon.

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Why lisa fan games are so fucking good?
Even the fan music is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM895LU1oY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AwzsEXnAAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH0fryfrpq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQbRLkM98G0

>>381414315
best boy pic related

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>>381412529
>friends
Given that the vast majority of them betray Brad, it'd be a fucking stretch many of them beyond Terry earnest "friends"

Brad... I've been a loser my whole life. Having you around has made me feel strong for once. Like a man... The first day we ever met was the best day of my life.... Even before the world changed. Maybe you don't feel the same way... But you're my best friend dude. It's just this... Brad, this is our future you're messing with... I'm sorry. We can't let you do this."

>>381414315
Terry

Good friend and entertaining character, and a surprise lategame powerhouse

>>381418213
yes

other than killing reformed Marty, though understandable given their fucked history together

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>>381415081

Which game should i start with

>>381412529
By the time that happens the joy had taken almost complete control. That's like saying Buzzo is a bad person when he turned into a joy monster at and attacked Buddy.

>>381419532
If you like Yume Nikki at all start with the original. The Painful is very Earthbound inspired gameplay-wise but the original Lisa is just an abstract walking simulator. It's not necessary to understand the plot in Painful but it'll give you some backstory.

>>381417898
how would he not know who rando is? Like there's not many people with fucked up faces like Dustin's, even before the flash.

>>381414841
I think the plan was to give out joy to create the joy mutants and control Olathe with them. However, he couldn't infect everyone, so he had to create a problem that would make everyone kill each other. In this case, his daughter would spark a war for the last female in Olathe, making the non-joyed people kill each other.

This backfired, as he didn't expect Buddy to be a one woman killing machine and take him and every other joy mutant down.

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>>381412321

I want another game like this expect it has to be a cute fantasy setting. The main Boy gets treated as shit (stolen money, items), he's party members abandon him at times. The main Girl is the only one who sticks up for him but during the game your other "party memebers" are too pressive to turn her against you.

>>381418678
fucking yes. The soundtracks for some of those fangames are top tier.

https://youtu.be/MhmDrtU_jMw
https://youtu.be/lcrsXodOFEQ

>>381418678
>>381420116
Woah, I didn't know about the fangames. Any woth playing?

>>381420428
Lisa the Pointless and Lisa the hopefull are great

>>381420428

I think the soundtracks of the ones I linked got cancelled

low quality developers still ass pained that undertale made all the actual money, still advertising on 4chan

>>381419532

Painful is the only good one of the three Dingaling games.

>>381419612
Buzzo is undoubtedly a bad person

>>381420617
Dunkey helped bring the game to light making Austin his money.

Also the only reason Undertale got so popular was because 4chan loved it so much it was posted to Reddit

>>381418050
He wants men to live, but he wants them to live in constant misery and agony so they take joy and become mutants for him. He's obsessed with making "flesh art" out of them.

>>381420617
Is that the reason the creator of Lisa trilogy went full /pol/ and self color shaming?

>>381420686
considering LISA the First was made years before the painful, and was only a shitty free game, I wouldn't really lump it in with Painful and Joyful except in terms of story.

>>381420690
Yeah, but I wouldn't hold it against him that as a joy mutant he attacked Buddy.

>>381417898
There's no evidence to suggest he didn't know who Rando is. I think it's more likely that he did know but didn't care because he hates him for some reason.

It's sad, but I can't really see a future for the series.

How would someone adapt this into a movie, a cartoon, or an HD remake. I wonder how the series would be if you changed the genre instead of turn based mechanics.

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>>381420830
I think if it was adapted into a movie I think it would be so weird that it would attract people. Like how a movie can be so weird but ends up being a classic. It won't attract too much normies though.

>>381414261
>Lisa itself is red-pilled as fuck
No it's not. You just say that because it's brutal and has wrestling in it. There's nothing right leaning about Lisa.

>>381419730
From the ending of Lisa where it shows how Dustin lost his face I get that Brad abandoned him there and never met him again. And he never actually seen Rando's face, only the mask.

>>381420964
>here's nothing right leaning about Lisa.
Doesn't have to be right-leaning to be red pilled. It's a story about a destructive society without women and where every man is killing one another for the last pussy on Earth. In the hands of a lot of people this game would've inevitably included a lot of elements that weren't in this game. Having the maturity to not be political with this kind of premise and instead focus on a more personal narrative takes some skill. There clearly wasn't an agenda here when there easily could've been. How many people could've written that "Beehive" area and avoided the low-hanging fruit jokes and observations that most people would make?

It's lack for advocating anything and just presenting itself as a wacky alternate reality is what makes it red-pilled. There's nothing apologetic about the way anything is portrayed.

>>381418213
He knew damn well he could have ruled Rando's army himself and the world would have been saved.

>>381421261
>and the world would have been saved.
World would've been fucked regardless anon and Brad was dealing with substance abuse. He's not the type to lead an entire army.

>>381420716
>the only reason Undertale got so popular
Undertale was guaranteed at least some of Homestuck's fanbase from the get go.

>>381420716
>Dunkey
He made that video years after Lisa's release. What are you talking about?

>>381421239
>It's a story about a destructive society without women and where every man is killing one another for the last pussy on Earth
>Game about the earth going to shit in the absence of women
>Red pilled
Shit gets called SJW for far less than this. What you think is red pilled is not the same as the most popular interpretation.

>>381420939
How so? the battles are about people wrestling and punching, even the mutants can be done pretty good on CGI if they could care and they all have these amazing designs.

and i would cry if i see the end of Brad again.

>>381421318
That's no excuse. He still did everything wrong.

>LISA movie

But who would they cast for the actors?

>>381421476
No fucking shit. Dunkey making the video raised the popularity of the series and made Austin a lot of money. The amount of time that passes is irrelevant if the creator can still make money off it.

>>381421261
Rando can barely rule his own army and Brad's only skill is being a punching bag. He still hasn't matured from the sack of shit who abandoned Dusty because of his own guilt and would lose everything immediately.

>>381420830
>>381420939
Have the trailers say "the next Mad Max" and it'll do fine. There's nothing too weird in it that would turn off normies. A revenge story about an angry old man who's beef as fuck with a dark past and has a daughter to save? That prints money these days.

>>381421517
>What you think is red pilled is not the same as the most popular interpretation.
Red pilled is just accepting the truth of reality. Lisa's premise depicts society's collapse without women in a wacky but mostly sensical way. If it were anyone else there'd be a bunch of bullshit in the game about how important women are and how gross men are because that's the easy go to for blue pills. The game doesn't do that though.

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>>381421567
Dr. Yado

>>381421681
>Rando can barely rule his own army
That was after Brad soloed most of it.

>>381421517
Are you really implying that the world would not go to shit without women?

Dude, they're literally the only way to continue the species, if people are so caught in their delusion that women are always shit, the problem is theirs.

It always amazes me how people try to rationalize their own degenerancy trough pointing fingers at others and calling them degenerates.

>>381421762
No I'm saying that if a game came out advertising that as a premise /v/ would be shitting on it from second one. You'd get shit like people saying "why do the men have to be violent? why can't they just live out their days in peace" or something like that.

>>381421632
Someone fattie but likeable, someone ripped and blonde, and someone ripped that uses a mask 24/7 and talks like Darth Vader.

>>381421639
>and made Austin a lot of money.
There are definitely at least some people who bought the game because of that video but at the point it was released the game was mostly old news and most who would've been interested in playing it would've already played it. Lisa kind of got a second wave because Undertale revived interest in the "Mother-like" genre. Dunkey's video came a full year after Undertale.

Yeah it was advertising but even if it had come out a few days after the game's release it wouldn't be directly responsible for the games success at all. That video is only a few months old and only persuaded a few hundred people at most.

>>381421843
Sorry, I understand now.
And that's true. But I guess /v/ has a bias, and so does every single human in the earth.

It's only natural.

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Buddy a shit

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>>381421632
>Mel Gibson as Brad since he can play a crazy father. He was also Mad Max.

>Demi Lovato as the Russian Roulette guy

Fuck this I don't know celebrities

>>381412321
Objectively, he made some mistakes; he shouldn't have relied on painkillers his whole life, especially Joy, but that's hardly his own fault given his upbringing; he definitely shouldn't have abandoned Dusty, which, while it was done because of his own emotional distress, doesn't really excuse the fact that he abandoned him.
Objectively speaking, though, aside from abandoning Dusty, Brad did nothing wrong. The only reason Buddy ended up so badly is because of how fucked up she was.
>>381412529
>Because of your blind rage
It wasn't his own rage, it was the Joy that made him blind. Even if you say "he shouldn't have used Joy", Buzzo still force-feeds it to you through the game. Given Brad's shaky emotional state, it didn't take much for him to become overtaken by Joy. Ergo, it wasn't his fault.

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>>381421632

>>381422441
IT ALL MAKES SENSe NOW

>all hail the fishmen starts playing

>>381422441
I had this same thought.

Did we ever figure out where the fuck Tommy is from or where he got the money for The Room? His voice and the story of how the film got made is interesting. I heard a conspiracy theory that he may be D.B. Cooper.

>>381422441
Yado really was fed up wit did wurl

>>381412634
Agreed. It's one thing for her to misunderstand Brad's intentions and have an absurdly skewed view on the world, which makes sense, but...
>Wants to kill all of the leaders in Orlathe for no particular reason
>Completely fails to even try and understand that the reason people treat her the way they do is because she's, as far as anyone knows, the last living female, possibly the last hope for mankind as a species, despite claiming to "know about the world".
>Doesn't even acknowledge the fact that ever since Brad found her, he devoted his entire life to her, and slaughtered an entire army for her, just to ensure her safety, even after she made him feel like an utter failure
>She also disregards Rando, despite once seeing him as some sort of escape from Brad, ignoring all advice to him, generally treating him like a fucking asshole, and killing him in a blind fit of rage, the exact same thing Brad did to anger her in the first place
>She's a child with a machete and only a basic comprehension of how to kill people, yet she slaughters men who have nothing better to do than work out, men with fucking machine guns, the strongest men in the world, and even manages to make the guy who more or less destroyed the world for the sole reason of ruling over it feel GUILTY; not for what he's done, but for hitting a little girl, despite the fact that he's already killed countless innocents in the past, and enslaved his wife as an unthinking abomination.
You can blame some of her insanity on being Yado's daughter, and on her upbringing, but frankly, they went too far with trying to make her as edgy as possible. It's impossible to like her; she's a complete foil to Brad. Instead of having to try his hardest and sacrifice everything, despite being raised by an utter monster, everything falls into Buddy's lap, and she hates Brad and Dusty, despite the two of them trying their absolute hardest to love her and both of them sacrificing their lives just for her.

>>381422662
His nationality is listed on wikipedia as American but I have no idea how that's on there because it's clearly not the case. According to The Disaster Artist he said his money comes from something related to clothing or fashion.

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>>381422832
>Wants to kill all of the leaders in Orlathe for no particular reason
This makes sense. She was taught to be a ruthless killer and not to trust anyone. When she was kidnapped she was surrounded by men who only wanted to fuck her. Remember she's like ten or so and it makes perfect sense for her to go on the warpath after not having any protector to fall back on to show that she's not to be fucked with and eliminate everyone who would fuck with her.

Everything else can be explained by she's a ten year old who was raised by three addicts in a hut to kill and hardly ever left her house.
On her being super strong despite being young Lisa is not a realistic story.

>>381422662
It was likely Poland

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>>381415415

>mfw Wrestler bro came through in the clutch and flawlessed

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>>381422953
>That thumbnail
You couldn't make me watch that video if you held me by gunpoint.

>>381422832
You're forgetting "Joy Rage" and how much it affects emotions. Brad's joy usage manifested into an unrelenting need to find and protect buddy, which was amplified over the years of him raising her while using joy (even if he quit for a bit). If you note every time Brad has a "flesh" moment, its in some way related to protecting Buddy, or his failure to protect Lisa.

Buddy is the same. She's affected by Joy, and she's been sheltered her entire life by Brad. When she being taken to Rando, she's given this sense of freedom and purpose beyond simply hiding, and wants to have control of her own life. The joy amplifies this into an obsession of not being manipulated or controlled. In her mind, if she kills the leaders of Olathe, then there'll be no one to control her. She kills Rando because he tried to control her with a kidnapping, which triggered her Joy rage.

>>381422662
>>381422857
He's an eccentric fashion designer, last I heard he was selling a brand of designer underwear with a pocket in the back to keep your cash.

But according to Greg Sestero who played Mark and went to acting school with him, he got really defensive about his money and his origin and didn't like people asking about it.

>>381422953
Game theory: Is Brad actually Crash Bandicoot?!?

>>381423324
>Crash Bandicoot
> Brash Candicoot
> Brad Canshicoot
> Brad
> Rash C
confirmed

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Mandatory post

>>381422953
I saw some of the video, he couldn't even fight a snake. He should've gave it to the pope.

>>381423324
Game Theory: Did Papyrus and Sans put Brad in Undertale?

POST TEAM LOADOUTS

>Birdie
>Terry
>RT

FIRE DAMAGE FOR DAYS

>>381418678
I didn't know there were so many fan games

any worth playing?

>>381423324
Game theory: Can you cure cancer by giving Pope newest seasons of Simpsons????

>>381423617
The Pointless 1st chapter out of 3 is done.
The Hopeful is finished.

Pointless has better sprites and story, but it's difficult as fuck.

>>381423003
>On her being super strong despite being young Lisa is not a realistic story.
I understand this, but the extent to which she's buffed is absolutely insane. To the point where it practically creates plot-holes; if she was this strong all along (since there wasn't any sort of time gap between Painful and Joyful, and the events of Painful couldn't have been THAT long of a period, and I strongly doubt anyone was teaching her how to fight while she was being dragged around through Olathe), how the fuck was she unable to protect herself at all? Even without the Machete, or Joy, she's way stronger than Brad; Brad has an entire team with him and struggles with regular members of Olathe society, yet Buddy goes solo most of the time and fucking obliterates everything. Yeah, you can say Lisa isn't realistic, but even within the universe of Lisa, it just doesn't make sense. At the very least they could've shown Buddy and Rando training together, to at least have some extremely minor validation as to how she's suddenly a combat master.

And excusing every character flaw she has with "but she's ten" doesn't make for an interesting character; you can say "it's realistic", but you already said Lisa isn't realistic. Even so, she sought Rando for protection, yet she ignores him at every turn; she even kills a complete fucking pacifist despite Rando's strong disagreement.

The worst part of all of this is that Buddy gets zero punishment for being an absolute lunatic; Brad suffers his entire life, gives everything for Buddy, but Buddy's allowed to be satan incarnate and not only survive, but thrive. She gets to take Joy throughout the game and get the Antidote. She kills several leaders, including pacifists and people who want to uphold justice, and nothing bad happens to her. She goes up against the one man who KILLED BILLIONS for the sake of being leader, and he resigns and simply allows her to kill him because he """feels guilty""".

She's a bad character. Period.

>>381423502
What happens if you flash a lot? Rando said not to do it and I heard something changes if you do.

>>381423587
>Birdie + Terry + literally anyone
Best combo in the game. Don't even need a third guy, pick whoever you want. You already have the best two characters in the entire game, both from a gameplay perspective and personality-wise.

>>381423921
How would you change the charecter of Buddy?

>>381423921
I can concede that but I think there might be something to a child being raised on joy that makes them stronger. That's just theory though and there's no much evidence for it.

Lisa can be realistic in some aspects and unrealistic in others. Unrealistic in the feats that human beings are capable of. Realistic in how a child raised by a madman might think. Buddy is not in any position to think rationally. And I don't think she's not punished for it. We don't se her punishment. Brad had a whole life to get shat on. Buddy is just starting hers. I don't think she's a bad character.

>>381424174
Her being delusional is fine and all, but make it so that she suffers for her mistakes like everyone else in the fucking universe. It just feels wildly out of place for Buddy to be able to kill everything that moves. Even with the argument that she's using Joy, she's clearly not the only person in the fucking world using Joy.
Make it so that she at least listens to Rando; the fact that she ends up killing him is fitting and all, but it's the fact that she treats him so poorly all the way through even though she hated Brad for trying to take her away from him.
Ultimately, though, most of my complaints about Buddy tend to come from Joyful being a shitty DLC. If the ending was better I'd probably be more forgiving. I mean, don't get me wrong, the fight with Brad at the end is beautiful, and never fails to make me at least tear up just hearing the music, but having Yado just concede to her and having her more or less not really care is unrewarding.

>>381423921

Just because she could have killed Rando and his gang in the first game, doesn't mean she wanted to

nobody in the lisa series did the right thing, that's the entire point

the world is so shit and horrible that everyone is a victim of circumstance

>>381424628
Lisa did nothing wrong.

>>381424628
Everybody had good intentions
The road to hell is paved with good intentions

>>381424628
>>381424671
Oh, and Terry definitely didn't do anything wrong. Aside from killing himself, but that's not really his fault.

>>381424671
>Manipulates Buzzo and then kills herself, leaving Buzzo totally fucked up

entire reason the series happens the way it does

>>381424736
Terry helped Brad kill people

>>381424826
Terry helped the only friend he's ever had.

>>381424859
doesn't matter man, if you helped your best friend kill people you'd still be a bad guy

he didn't mean to be a bad guy though

Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQdjFZXJsew

>>381424826
>entire reason the series happens the way it does
We don't really know that. If not for Yado nothing would have happened. You can't pin everything on Lisa

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>those last couple of seconds

>>381418678

Pointless really got me wondering about the Infinity Franchise thing. Is it actually supernatural? What the fuck happened to the boxer guy when you fought him? What does being "infinitized" mean? Damn I loved how creepy everything about them was.

>>381423198
this. Also, you forget that she realises what Brad had done for her in the final boss battle and seems to forgive him.

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Rando mode. The mode of gods.

>>381426096
Rando's story is probably one of the most motivating and saddest if you really look at it.

>adoptive parent is emotionally distant and has too many mental illnesses to care for you
>face is fucked up due to horrendous attack
>uses the pain from his upbringing to get swole
>he's not taking shit from anyone anymore
>when the flash happens he uses his pure strength to beat people into submission
>this eventually leads to him leading a group of raiders
>years pass, he uses his power as a leader to keep control of all of northern Olathe. It took a dozen or so other leaders just to keep control of southern Olathe.
>One day he get approached by a man called sticky who says he knows where the last living female in the world is
>you move to help her, as she's extremely vulnerable protected only by 4 men. Who knows what they've done already
>sticky and his friend rick get her to a temporary place
>word gets out though, and you have to move quickly to protect her. everyone in Olathe is searching for her, and he knows his army can't stop them all
>suddenly Brad runs into your convoy, destroying his bike
>all of a sudden those years of abuse and emotional neglect start coming back to Rando
>he tells his men to give him the supplies he needs, he doesn't want brad near him.
>barely holds it together as he leaves
>discovers that Brad was the one who was raising the girl
>considering how badly Brad fucked up raising Rando, he knows he is the opposite of a good parent

>>381426731
The only person who did nothing wrong