stormblood

>>381411916
I find lyse to be very annoying as well

>>381412001
>tfw no alisaie hug
She's just keeps proving herself to be best girl

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>a healer
>her beast tribe thinks youre wrong and guilty because youre arguing against her
>shes in fact a selfish asshole looking for power
you dont like the healslut primal, right anon?

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>>381411916
Do not bully Lyse, she is easily depressed. Say something nice to her right now!

>tfw Stormblood flopped

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>>381412197
Depends is there a snake pussy under those robes?

anyone wanna ERP with a THICC roe.
i have megadick

>>381412421
Did it?

Also, anyone else fall asleep during dungeons? By the time I get to the second boss I'm already bored as fuck and dozing off.

>>381409071
>Just lalas in disguise really.
funny, i just ran with an actual lala that did the same thing

>>381412465
>>>/vg/

>>381412525
>Did it?
No it seems to have done very well considering that it's started even bigger queues than HW did on both US and JP servers, and there was extensive advertising for it which is currently raking in new players

>>381412592
I usually get catbois and midlanders that do that.

>>381412698
>romaji
Half assed weebs should die, either learn moonspeak or move on

>>381412789
>>>/vg/

>>381412698
you reap what you sow balmung shitter

>>381412840
will you at least LOOK at it?

>>381412465
c-can you ERP with a cute midlander or do you want roes only

>>381412879
there is literally nothing wrong with playing on balmung or anything related to it.

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>tfw every tank in your FC is now some kind of DPS and doesn't intend to switch back

>>381412958
dont go to a circus and complain about the attractions

FOR BALMUNG MHIGO

>>381412421
it's amazing that a subscription based game that is basically wow is able to stay afloat when wow itself has in-game currency subscription

>>381412991
>people don't want to be bored
it's a mystery

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>tfw SCH is dead
>tfw trying to change to dps
>tfw everyone is a bully
Why is dps so hard I've played healer in pretty much every mmo and now I feel bad for all the bullying I've done over the years

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Just finished the MSQ quest with the antitower. How long until I can actually play Stormblood content?

>MCH went from a high IQ job to a brainlet job
why does bard ruin everything? gauss barrel actually fit MCH like a glove, now its been shoehorned to play like a shitty bard with turrets

>>381413098
>it's amazing that a subscription based game that is basically wow is able to stay afloat when wow itself has in-game currency subscription
I might be wrong but I'm guessing it has a lot to do with the fact that the game and dev team is mostly concerned with the JP audience. Japan has plenty of niche games, mmos included because people focus much less on being number one at everything, where as western mmos will bend over backwards to beat wow and once they fail just give up and half ass it, the "if you're not first you're last" mentality poisons far too many western games.

>>381413212
to be fair that happened to every job. the most challenging jobs in a role were brought down to the simplest

>sch to whm
>mnk to nin
>smn to blm

>>381413212
>now its been shoehorned to play like a shitty bard with turrets
Other way fucko, BRD had to be shoehorned into bow mage so it didn't completely overshadow MCH with it's mobility so they had to be changed together

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>>381411916

So after hitting level 30 on a newly created world I should get 1mill gil and 15 days of subscription right, but what if i'm still on the free trial at 30??

Fucking zenos is so damn anime

"Run beast run!"
Heh guess I'll have to use THAT"

>>381413543
>tfw the empire is really just a bunch of chuunis

CLIMB THE TOWER

>Meh I got materia to waste lemme just meld Piety on this gear since I'll be replacing it anyways
>Piety only applies to healers

well fuck you did you even ask SMN how he felt about that

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>>381412991
>tfw every tank in your FC is now just a paladin

>>381413104
Dutywise you still have Sorh Kai, Xelphatol and Baelsar's wall to do, along with Final Steps of Faith.

>DRK in pvp

Jesus fucking christ all these BS kills

How the fuck do you level up other jobs through Stormblood? This shit is so fucking slow.

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>>381413719
>theres already a PLD/ AST main in your static so you have to go DRK or WAR/SCH or WHM

>>381413837
It's faster than it's ever been. If you find 60-70 slow then you have brain problems.

>>381412440
Nope.
Snake Cloaca though.

How much will I regret starting on a low pop server with an exp bonus down the line?

>>381413890
So is it just running fates? I'm astounded side quests give you so little experience.

>>381413780
fuck, I guess I can actually play SB next month.

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>>381413890
t. tank
dps queues are horrendous as everybody fucking predicted, quests and fates suck dick and are fucking slow, and the Jenga Tower isn't open for business yet.

>>381413990
Dungeons give you an absurd amount of exp.

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>>381412789
Go back to your containment board erpshitter, we actually discuss the game here unlike /vg/.

>>381414032
I've only leveled RDM and NIN so far. This is the most painless leveling has EVER been. Even if you can't stand the dungeon queues you can just halfass PVP and get efficient exp.

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>Instrumental version of the Garlemald Hymn playing in Rhalgr's Reach
Wait what

Fuck that bitch for what she did to my niggas Gosetsu and Grynewaht

>>381414032
you need a tank or healer friend

preferably a lonely one like me

>>381414147
Finish the msq and all will be explained.

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I'll kill your Gods, cunt.

>>381414147
apparently garlemald is the white devil and stole the ala mhigen national anthem and repurposed it for themselves

>>381413990
Dungeons if healer or Tank right now, if DPS then frontlines pvp

>>381412197
RISE

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Alright /v/, I spent the entire day grinding, but I finally got ACN to 29 and tomorrow I'll finally get SCH and join the healer fun with yall. Heard from an anon AST sucks dick now.

>>381413103
Bet you were one of the fags who would spout "LOL DPS IS EZEST JOB XD" and now see why that is not the case.

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>SMN Bio and Miasma last 30s each so their times are synced up fine
>SCH Bio and Miasma are 30 an 24s respectively, and Miasma is the one that has a cast time

These times infuriate me

>>381414719
DPS is easy, being a good DPS is hard. Also that anon told you the opposite, AST is in a great place and SCH is in a shitty place right now.

>>381412197
i like her theme though

>>381414790
>SCH is in a shit place
W-why? I heard they were top DPS.
>Being a good dps is hard
And so is being a good healer or good tank.

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>>381414750
>everything about SCH in 4.0

welcome to the most miserable moments of your sad and meaningless existence

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Zenos is such a bro.

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>>381414719
I've bullied dps in every mmo you can think of and take joy in getting them kicked from groups or even guilds for arbitrary reasons while the tank just instantly takes my side and I'll continue that as soon as I finish leveling AST or they drop some SCH buffs

>>381414884
>W-why? I heard they were top DPS.
Literally where? SB killed them

>>381414884
Being a good DPS is harder than being a good tank/healer.

Also SCH is the healer and SMN is the DPS, SCH has a clumsy toolkit and MP issues from being overtuned in a bad way and SMN seems to be parsing high but is a slog to actually play until 70 and then still is a slog but you get a mini bahamut. for like 15s every 2 minutes or some shit

>>381414884
SCH lost 3 dots (Bio, Miasma 2, Aero), Bane was nerfed, Shadowflare only lasts 15s and has a 45s downtime, and they don't Bio 3 and Miasma 3 like SMN

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Anyone else feel the lvl 70 dungeons a little long? People are taking 20+ minutes on them

>>381413103
>Why is dps so hard
What?
DPS is easiest job

>>381414997
Give it a patch for everyone to get geared and we'll be blasting through them again like always

>>381415034

You try to juggle mechanics while doing a completely perfect rotation. I bet you also complain people do shit DPS, if DPSing was so easy then no one would be bad, would they?

>>381415034
Name one DPS class, besides BLM, that is easy to pull +2400 DPS. I'll wait

>>381415120
RDM is retard proof

>>381414997
respect the content

>>381415050
That. I feel this way about primals. I remember when HW was out and Ravana felt kinda tense even on normal because PUGs couldn't burn him down as fast as we can now. Now the new trials are like this, but I know that in a few patches we'll be steamrolling them again.

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>>381415034
When healing and meter watching between throwing out damage has been ingrained in you it's pretty hard to keep up with all the dps autists

>>381415034
>DPS is low skill floor high skill ceiling
>Healing is low skill floor (healbots) medium skill ceiling
>Tanking is high skill floor (simply because people think its hard to do equals a barrier to entry from nerves) low skill ceiling

>>381415120

SAM.

>>381415034
there are no hard jobs after stormblood

>>381414994
they should just make miasma I become miasma II and have 35 potency for 30s and give it to scholar

i dont get why they just straight up deleted the II and went I>III

>>381415120
Sam
rdm
>>381415106
> if DPSing was so easy then no one would be bad
Even braindead dps still making through Susano ex 2 dps checks and one on Shinryu, really makes you think
And most of wipes were because they can't dodge mechanics or too stupid to run back with cloud line

>>381415347
Because a week before Stormblood they realized they forgot to modify SMN/SCH so they rushed it out the door.

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>>381415318
i'm gonna protect that smile

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>smn is dead
>smn will be bottom of barrel dps
>dps rankings is posted
>WTF HAPPEN BROS, IT WAS RDM'S TIME
>tfw smn main

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Why aren't you fucks climbing the tower?

>>381415318
>>381415427
>Main plot character and her horns still clip through her hair
Fucking annoying.

>>381415456
>It's okay if my class feels gutted and shitty as long as I parse high on dummies!

>>381415467
i'm not an autist

>>381415467
so this is what autism looks like... whoah...

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Subarashii...

>>381415347
Right. Corruption Mastery should have included Miasma and upgraded both to Bio II and Miasma II

I can't stand the fact that the typical cast will be Miasma -> Bio II since Bio II is now instant, but is the longer dot.

>>381415456
They were wrong about sch too
Literally best healer on the susan-o ex
Sucks on the snake waifu
But hey, still counts as something

Is there something that tells me how to increase mount speed in each zone?

>>381415484
>i play an online game to not be competitive!

>>381415553
How is it the best.
>>381415562
It's under Travel.

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>>381415456
>caring about dps before first patch
All of the fellow SCH/SMNs jumping ship deserve what they get

>>381415427
>>381415318
BEST GIRL BEST SCION (she is one right?)

>>381415623
>BEST SCION (she is one right?)
no

>>381415562
It's always MSQ and maps bought from hunting marks

>>381415593

I don't see anything that actually tells me how to get my second star on movement for some maps.

>>381415581
>I play an online game to not have fun!
You can enjoy a class and still pull good numbers with you goon. HW SMN was the perfect DoT class and it got gutted because it wasn't fitting the SMN "class fantasy"

>>381415562
There's 2 mount speed increases, one comes from just doing the MSQ (If you already are in SB content then it was retroactively applied to all ARR/HW areas). The other is bought from your grand company/hunt guy in ishgard. They're 250 allied/centurio ceals (for ARR and HW respectively) for each area.

the HW ones are negligible because flight but definitely worth it for ARR

>>381415645
Sorry I thought you were just asking where to see it, >>381415643 is correct.

>>381415636
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Scions_of_the_Seventh_Dawn#Key_members

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>tfw finding RDM really fun

I dont mind if it's not top tier, but it's really enjoyable.

>>381415593
All damage comes in short bursts, so whm regen is even more worthless than usual, and ast shields aren't as good as sch ones

>>381415467
I already did

>>381415732
>AST shields aren't as good as SCH ones
you wot

>>381415553
how? do you have parses or arguments?

i literally cannot see how SCH is good in any way

>>381415623
she's not alisaie

>>381415725
>Giving a shit about tiers

Fuck off already, nobody cares
Not even the people here who pretend they care

>>381415796
You replied you must care a little anon :^)

>>381415725
Tiers don't trump enjoyment anon.

>>381415770
Yes, parsers might be in beta, but they're working.

>>381415732
Nocturnal benefic is effectively 230 potency due to the sect and shields for 250% of that.

They're ridiculous

>>381415791
why would i want that frigid bitch when her submissive slutty twin brother is around?

>>381415732

>whm and ast have better burst healing than sch
>whm and ast both do more dps than sch
>whm just has way more raw healing
>ast is literally 100% required for any hard fight, and will be until they nerf balance

your 15% crit buff is literally the only thing keeping you off life support

>>381415886
This. Her bro is top tier boy pocci

is new summoner fun? I've given up on doing susano as a tank and want to level up one of my dps because apparently his clouds are too hard for dps to handle.

and I can just level through instant dungeon queues with scholar first

>>381415725
That shit doesn't matter unless you're going for world first or doing speed runs. Stop listening to the retarded shed posters

>>381415946
Did you like HW SMN? Then no.

How is tomb of sargeras heroic?

>>381415946
Healers don't have instant queues, though they are significantly quicker than dps queues. Tank queues are instant.

>>381416057
>Healers don't have instant queues,
You wut?
All me queues were less than second

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>>381415467
>not watching casuls fall from the top spot

>>381416028
Shitty. So shitty it is sending more people to FFXIV which is hurting our servers even more. Even when Blizzard does a shitty job with WoW they manage to hurt FFXIV.

>>381415908
>CS is a +15% crit CHANCE buff with a uptime of fucking 12,5%

HOW
IS
THIS
KEEPING
SCH
ALIVE

SCH IS ABSOLUTE TRASH RIGHT NOW

>>381416028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVb8RuFz6gE

You know the dragon war thing was kind of iffy but it ended up working because dragons don't follow human logic or sense of time and had their own territory so we just ended up adventuring and exploring foreign and unknown lands doing whatever, but fuck please let's never do anything like Stormblood again. Yanxia is just a total fucking waste of a zone because of the awkward story shit.

>>381415725

I find SAM really fun and plan on playing it even when it inevitably gets nerfed.

>>381415510
Why did he do it? He's the heir to the empire. How is the garlean ruler taking his heir killing himself?

>>381416028

Easy, it was cleared within a couple hours after launch.

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>>381415886
>not wanting to take her maidenhood

>>381416184
Play the game
Pretty good, he considered him monster too and wanted better heir, like Gaius

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>hit 70 miner
>get 70 botanist achievement

YOSHIIIIIIII

>>381416232
I want to take her brothers maidenhood though...........................................................................

>>381416232
why does alisaie want to attract maidens?

>>381416113
that's because currently healers are in more demand due to the 2 new DPS jobs.

in general their wait times can flicker from instant to 5-10 minutes depending on the duty

Here are some objective facts about this expansion.

>Lyse isn't as terrible as everyone on /'v/ likes to think, but she could still be a lot better.
>Alisae is just alright.
>Yugiri is, in fact, best girl.
>Y'shtola is a shit.
>Y'shtola is a REALLY BIT shit.
>Zenos was not a bro.
>The Garleans are not your friends.
>But neither are most of the Eorzeans for that matter.
>Hien is the best hedgehog in the game.
>Everything about the Steppes is amazing except for the quests holy shit stop giving me so many mother fucking sidequests you tall scaly moogle mother fuckers go away you literally had me help a girl kill herself for fucks sake this entire world is clearly fucking useless without me if the denizens of Hydaylen can't even fucking off themselves without my goddamn assistance they literally need my help just to succeed at failing.
>In relation to the previous point Cirina is a cute and all of those quests would have been infinitely better if she were directly involved in each one of them in some way.
>Gosetsu is amazing and the absolute best character this expansion, and anyone who disagrees is a colossal cock smoking faggot that should make like a Xaela and kill themselves for having such absolutely and objectively wrong shit taste.

>>381416339
>The Garleans are not your friends
This. Only edgemongers like Garleans.

how long until they let summoners replace bahamut with something smaller so he doesn't cover 80% of the screen?

>>381416339
>Zenos was not a bro.
trumpwrong.webm

>>381416296
How can a miner be 70?

>>381416417
Everyone was crying for bigger summons. Not gonna happen.

>>381416417
Never because SMN fags finally got their wish and the class is boring shit tied around summoning their pets vs being a perfect DoT class.

How will everyone know you are a cool AMAZING summoner if you don't flaunt your obnoxious bahamut in their face???

>>381416136
functionally it's just battle litany since they're both 15% crit chance increase

>>381416339

>giving a shit about a story in an mmorpg

nah, you're the faggot

>>381416339
at least we can all agree the Steppes got the absolute best MSQs of the expansion

>>381416329
Because she's a lesbian for my WoL

>>381416339

Agree with all except Zenos.

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>>381416424

>>381416486
>playing FFXIV and not enjoying the story
Why are you here?

>>381416486
fuck off xeno

>>381416486
>He skips all the cutscenes.

Laughing_catsluts.jpg

>>381416547
>>381416627
>>381416636

you're in the wrong medium of game for storytelling

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>>381416486
>plays an MMO that is unabashedly story heavy
>lmao faggot you watch the cutscenes?

>>381416690

Then why is the game successful enough to be on it's second expansion pack?

>>381416690
Right, us intellectuals only prefer RPGs from the assend of Europe as our medium of Storytelling.

>>381416339
The empire is literally just trying to bring civilization and technology to assbackwards primitives any opinion to the contrary is wrong

>3 summoners and a samurai in ex susano
>they manage to hit the enrage with 10% left after only two of them died the entire fight

Do dps just completely give up on attacking when there is any kind of mechanic active?

>>381416690
Says who? the story is actually entertaining for a lot of people and is the main drive for MANY people playing the game.

Im sorry you're so jaded from WoW, but this MMO is hugely focused on the story and if you're skipping it, you're missing out.

>>381416776
t empire brainlet

>>381416776
>The empire is literally just trying to bring civilization and technology to assbackwards primitives any opinion to the contrary is wrong

Play Stormblood all the way through.

>>381416760

because you're in denial if people aren't playing the game for the loot treadmill, cutscenes are just a bonus

>>381416781
yes

>>381416781
Two things is too much to handle.

>>381416842
And where was I proven wrong at?

>>381416851
>millions of players in denial over a story fairly well received by said players.

>>381416842
Please spoonfeed me. I have a friend who has a gay boner for the empire because he's a faggot for imperial facists in fiction.

>>381416842

>listening to anything zenos says

>not watching the cutscene at the end of the game when his father disowns him infront of the white douchenugget

xenos does not represent the empire, generally speaking the empire brought education, standard of living, and order to otherwise countries that were in a civil war (ala mhigo)

we've met the emperor and he was generally nice to you in the short meeting we had in heavensward

>>381416946
Anon you can't argue with wowfugees they hate story and just want loot pinatas, anything that interferes with that they'll just fling shit at while making vague points

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>Final boss of level 67 dungeon

>>381416946
>millions

anon, I..

>>381417047

t. man cucked by yoshi-p

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>playerbase likes garleans and wants to join them
>writers get butthurt and turn garleans into mustache twirling caricatures
>still more likable than the main cast of super best friends

>>381417096
t. wowfugee who skips through cutscenes

>>381417047
>tfw prefer Mythic+ to FFXIV dungeons
>but FFXIV primals/raids are so well presented and the OST is fantastic it takes the edge there
>prefer Disc Priest over any of the healers in FFXIV but BRD is on par with Shadow Priest in terms of fun

It's an abstract feel.

>>381417106
It's always been black & white, anon, don't act like it's anything but people liking the cool villains more.

>>381417092
I'm not saying its like 10 million players but I'm 99% certain FFXIV globally has at least two million players.

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>>381417008
>we've met the emperor and he was generally nice to you in the short meeting we had in heavensward

>Genocide even peaceful beastman tribes
>Attempts to kill WoL ASAP
>Utterly ruthless ansd basically without compromise
>Somehow raised a sin like Zenos

>Generally nice

>>381417106
garleans are personifications of white mans burden prove me wrong

>>381417154

>liking shit like necrotic

nah mythic+ was a shit concept

real reason why ffxiv beats legion is because leggos were a shitty idea, and the eternal grind to stay relevant for mythic raiding was exhausting even for hardcores, and the benefits of grinding had rapidly diminishing returns

>>381417106
I've always thought Garleans were cucks.

>Superior germanic roman empire with magitech getting btfo by small band of plucky rebels time and time again

All loyal garleans are gonna go in the cucksheds.

>>381417263
>peaceful beastman tribes
Tribes who turn to primals at the slightest sign of troubles
>>Attempts to kill WoL ASAP
Who supports those tribes and actively fights the empire

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>>381417362
>Tribes who turn to primals at the slightest sign of troubles
Maybe because they're getting killed to the last before they turn to Primals.

>STOP RESISTING US KILLING YOUR CHILDREN AND FAMILY DOWN TO THE LAST MEMBER OF YOUR MISBEGOTTEN RACE WE'RE TRYING TO CIVILIZE YOU THROUGH KILLING YOU ALL

ok lad

>>381417362
kobolds were completely justified in summoning titan. I don't understand why we are even pretending the pirates are good guys

>people acting like Garleans are in, any way, not the black to our white
Seriously this shit's as cut and dry as it gets. You can like them more just fine because it's fine to like the bad guy, but don't pretend like this isn't baby tier moral differences.

>>381417326
Some of the modifiers are shit but the idea of dungeon level content being relevant well into raiding is something I've wanted for years. I hate how its always cut and dry Dungeons into Raids in terms of item level and you have no choice but to corral X number of idiots to do raiding to get further gear. Legendaries and Titanforging both killed it for me because it felt like any waking moment I wasn't farming something was wasted time at launch and it was exhausting thinking of even trying another character. Also the priest class quest was the worst questline I've ever played in an MMO.

Also I like the sets/trinkets in WoW for extra flavor over FFXIV's static statstick gear.

>>381417351
SB ala mhigo part was so bad
No one could fucking see deus ex garbge like dragoon coming from nowhere, destroying their cannon and jumping back into nowhere
Without it wol and 90% of rebels would be killed during second bombard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KRKSulaMU

Post a better dungeon theme.
Protip: You can't

Is there an orchestrion roll for the last msq fight yet?

>>381417431
Sylphs turned just because they thought they might be threatened in the future, trying to reason with the beastmen is futile

>>381417351
In the Garleans' defense, ARR only fucked them over because of Midgarsormr. They messed with something they didn't understand based on bad intel and basically lost a the majority of their invasion fleet. And then Nael tried to fucking end the planet and frittered away fucktons of their resources because once again, mad science fucking with things they don't understand.

Had Gaius still been alive and still the acting head of Ala Mhigo, the writers would have had no reasonable way to let us win the Ala Mhigo conflict. Zenos actively had to try to fuck up in order to cultivate a strong resistance.

>>381417263

>beastmen summon primals even when not at war and have always harassed the non-beastmen populations (amal'ja, ixali, etc)

literally only peaceful population we've seen so far are the beastmen dailies and the snakepucci

they go around the world killing primals, and they have arguably slain as many as you have

>ruthless to bring education and opportunity to the masses, after being bullied for centuries by the other nations

>implying your guilty for your kids stupid decisions

xenos is an adult and responsible for his own shit, i know plenty of people irl that were raised by wonderful parents but still turned out to be shitheads

>>381417535
is it really a fuck up if everything goes exactly as planned?

>>381412525
this is happening to me all the time i play now a days. literally in the middle of tanking and healing i just start dozing off and have to shake myself back awake. i thought it was just because I was getting old though.

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>>381417106

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>ffxiv is the only mmo i play
>keep skipping cutscenes
>try and get into the story on multiple occasions but it always ends with me giving up
>can sit through the story of almost every other final fantasy excluding 8

What's wrong with me bros?

>>381417535
>SB even shows Gaius was a kinder leader than the Garleans we see in SB
>Zenos and Yotsuya are literally sadists that would trample children if it fulfilled their lust for battle/revenge respectively
>Gaius had to die because they couldn't possibly have written his story in a way that made us really feel like he needed to be stopped at this rate.

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>>381417534
And they were perfectly justified in doing so against the empire.

The empire wants the eradication of every last sylph just like they want every other beastman utterly slain.

>wtf why are these faggots not letting us exterminate them

>try to clear out sidequests while waiting for Doma Castle queue
>end up unlocking more sidequest NPCs than I cleared out

Also
>tank immediately leaves

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>>381417362
>Threaten beast tribes
>They get scared and summon primal for safety
>SEE! THEY ARE BAD THEY SUMMON PRIMALS!
>Even though you fucking caused it to be summoned in the first place
Stupid garlean posters, mayhaps neck yourself.

>>381417627
>The empire wants the eradication of every last sylph just like they want every other beastman utterly slain.
Snakes?
Turtles?

>>381417627
The empire isn't why they summoned him, read the story they thought the gridanians were in the wrong, beastmen are simply beasts and deserve to be put down as such when they act up, the empire has done no wrong and no amount of loophole jumping can prove otherwise

>>381417680
Add Lupins to that list too.

>>381417669

Bird people never were threatened or oppressed, they summoned giant flying whale just because they could
Ninja turtles summoned susano by sheer coincidence, empire tolerated them just fine

>>381417587
I mean, in the context of the empire, yeah it's a fuckup. Zenos got exactly what he wanted, but what he wanted was in no way aligned with the empire's goals.

Which I guess is the primary failure of the empire - constantly letting mad scientists tinker with their military leaders and allowing too much power to said military leaders basically unchecked. Thus far we're at basically a 50% psychopath rate - Nael was tempered, Zenos actively wanted to cause rebellions, and it's hard to speak too highly of Regula. The guy could see reason and work with you to deal with the Warring Triad once he learned for himself that controlling them wasn't viable.

>>381417625
Yep, fuckin loved that sidequest chain. To me Gaius exemplifies everything the empire back home probably believes their conquering forces stand for. Someone going out and doing what needs to be done to A. save the planet from eikons, and B. raise the quality of life for everyone by taking them into the empire's fold.

>>381417743
>beastmen are simply beasts and deserve to be put down as such when they act up
>ignoring literally every civilized beastmen civilization we've seen in stormblood

>>381417743
>the empire has done no wrong
Except all the wrong they do. Seriously this shit is black and fucking white and anyone that thinks otherwise is overthinking a simple story just to justify liking the villains when there's nothing wrong with liking the bad guys more.

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which are the most OP dps right now?

Rdm and blm?

Just got back to yanxia and I'm about 10% away from 69. Can I safely skip all the side quests and hit 70 by MSQ alone or will I hit a roadblock on my way there

>>381417839
>implying
The empire isn't putting them down they even hire the turtles, but the second they resort to primals they deserve to be put down

>>381417890
sam rdm and brd

>>381417867
This, why even try to hide it?

Liking the evil faction is perfectly okay.

The garleans are cool. I do wish they were playable as a real antagonist faction but they aren't. But the empire is fucking 'evil'. They're just the kind of evil with some noble top dog people who are good but still only diamonds in the rough.

>>381417867
>this shit is black and fucking white
Where?

>>381417948
>>381417890
>rdm
>balanced

they're a cuckshed class.

>>381417968
Lyse vs zenos

>>381417936
>but the second they resort to primals they deserve to be put down
>dipshit imperial kidnaps a snake and then kills her
>mother summons a primal out of contempt
>lol they should be put down

how are garlean supporters THIS retarded

>>381417968
>Nael
>Emperor 1
>Emperor 2
>Zenos
>RDM quest where Empire works with a dude kidnapping people and basically lobotomizes them into being magical assassins

anon, the empire is fucking evil.

>>381417980
t. MNK

>>381417625
>>381417836
Which sidequest does the chain start from? I skipped over a lot of the later sidequests since tank queues gave way better exp.

>>381417980
>being obsessed with cuckoldry
please end yourself

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makes me feel pretty good SCH is getting thrown into the shed after all the shit they gave us WHMs.

>tfw you fondly remember those posts saying WHMs were the whiniest babies in the game for complaining, despite the fact that 90% the playerbase agreed they were the worst healer 5 years running and appeared to be losing a lot of skills and getting debuffed further
>tfw you can now enjoy the tables turning on SCH as they ree from their new cucksheds
I pissed on every bit of the shed. enjoy your stay

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>>381417890

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>decide to try pvp for the first time
>surprisingly having a lot of fun

who knew healing pvp could be so much fun?

>>381418038
It's actually fairly immediate, it's one of the aether current quests that you can get in Castrum Oriens, only requires 61 to do the whole thing. It's dealing with the black cat Adder Lieutenant.

>>381418059
Except WHM was never bad

>>381418059
It's the same with PLD honestly, anyone saying PLD players "had it fine and didn't deserve the buffs" is fucking lying. Every thread was about laughing at PLD cause they didn't bring enough damage to a DPS meta.

>>381418065
Who is this

>tank/healer queues were almost 5 whole minutes today

did stormblood flop? where did they players go?

>>381418025

We're allied with a pirate nation that allows its citizens to rape and pillage vessels on the open sea, a corrupt gold jew merchant nation that plays game of thrones and uses citizens as pawns and a tree hugging nation that kidnaps 'chosen' children and forces them to live away from their families (see new whm quests).

You're also retarded if you think we're any different that the Garleans.

>>381418114
"Wasn't bad" except for the part that nobody wanted them since SCH/AST out-performed them in every way because all everyone wanted was more DPS.

>>381418129
CEO of Nintendo after Iwata passed away.

>>381418059
WHM was worst only during creator, and oly because no one needed their strong heals during speedruns
And even now as a whm I would prefer another healer to be ast or even sch because no fights needs so much burst healing and regen

>Empire is now modifying humans to become crazy beasts
>b-but the empire are good because p-primals and beasts!
Why are Garlean posters so deluded

>>381418103
Ohh, alright, thanks. Yeah, I fucked off after getting the aether current like a retard, so no wonder I didn't see the rest of the chain.

>>381418147
They rebalanced queues somehow, dps queues are actually semi bearable now

>>381418065
lol i thought they said bard would get buffed

Garleanposting is awful tonight.

>>381418226
BRD buffs everyone else so there's still a spot for it. Unless the idea of a support is lost on you.

>>381418175
It's just people not just admitting that they like the bad guys when there's nothing wrong with that, so they have to justify it somehow.

Like seriously nigga just make a bunch of gas the beastmen posts or something, it's okay.

>>381418240
More people realizing the alliance is just backwards assholes resistant to change

>>381418114

in raw healing? sure, it was the best

in raid utility? it was absolutely the fucking worst by an astronomically huge margin, which was what heavensward was about

>>381418025
It seems like the empire has a population rate of like 10% genius level intellects, and then 10% of those are mad scientists, because holy shit that's like most the bad shit the empire does. Mustard gas, resonant, trying to turn Dalamud into their own deathstar, constantly trying to control primals instead of kill them (despite how they fucking KNOW that them just existing drains the planet), chainsaw mutation therapy.

Nero isn't even really a bad guy but still has a huge boner for reactivating allagan tech just to see what it does. Cid's like the only responsible Garlean scientist/engineer we've ever seen. Also I was bummed he didn't show up more in the MSQ.

Is it just me or does playing anything but DPS feel unsatisfying as fuck right now?

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Tower is covered in people who can't into platforming tonight.

>>381418226
The BRDs and MCHs don't have the DRG debuff for these, I think

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>>381418164

DON'T YOU GET IT?
THE PLANET'S DYIN' ANON.
AND THOSE GARLEANS ARE SUCKIN' THE &*#@ LIFE OUT OF IT WITH THEIR GOD DAMN MAGITEK!

>>381418363
Is there actually anything at the top or is it just a meme

>>381418339

Nael went rogue which is why Gaius showed up, so blaming Dalamund on the Empire is not accurate.

>>381418339
With how much Garlean mad science we're already getting in SB, the Garlean expansion itself is going to be fucking wacky.

>>381418065
>smn being this high

shit list

>>381418307
It wasn't until Creator when WHM was left out in favor of an AST because of MUH BALANCE, and the need for raw heals wasn't as great

>>381418390
There's a Vista.

>>381418349
Tanks/Healers got shuffled to do Tanking and Healing things better but lost a lot of their innate damage capabilities which means questing as one is fucking awful.

>>381418418
The first emperor is the one who authorized the original set of research into using Dalamud as a weapon - it fucking vaporized one of their Castrums from space. AFTER that was when Nael went rogue.

>>381418387

i laughed, but ceruleum harvesting doesnt seem to affect the planet in anyway

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>>381418363
>EB partner gets on top
>Ring teleport to the top

>50 minutes for the Susano-o ex in the lfr
Guess turning no bonus in the party on wasn't my best idea

>>381418429
No shit, it's by some literal who using data from who the fuck knows where

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>>381418339
They've said we've only seen temporary Garlean architecture (the Castrums) and have yet to see what actual Garlean shit is like. I'm betting on it being like almost literally FF13 levels of advanced which kind of explains why the Garleans see Eorzea as a backwater nation.

>>381412001

milkies

>>381411916
I miss Papalymo.

>>381418426
>>381418642
I imagine Garlemald will be fairly Midgar looking, considering how much smog their castrums seem to generate, and back home they probably use ceruleum for everything.

I'm also wondering what wacky shenanigans all the other legions get up to. So far we've only seen the VI, VII, XIV, and XII I believe?

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Why is tanking so fucking shit now, bros?

>>381418740
Because they dropped the skill floor so that your only focus is just tanking and trying to do damage while tanking feels like a chore working around the system.

>>381418730
given the rule of legions thematically basing their schtick on whatever game matches their label, Probably just whatever.

>>381418740
No more big pulls, respect the content!

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>>381415467
Already did!

>>381418861
>No more big pulls, respect the content!
What are you talking about? Me and my friends been doing the big 4 pulls in Ala Mhigo for hours

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This was not worth it in the slightest.

>>381418861
>tfw still do big pulls with my tank/dps friends
Disrespecting the content everyday.

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>>381418992
>>381419045
RESPECTU ITTU FILTHY GAIJIN

>Au'ra boss guy in Azim has an updated version of my favorite weapon, the titan axe
>No way to actually get it in-game

Reeeee

>>381412525

I actually find the SB dungeons to be pretty good for once. They have neat designs for the bosses and don't seem to drag on too long either. Maybe it's because certain classes got buffed which makes runs faster, but they don't seem to last nearly as long as the HW dungeons did.

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>make the empire borderline cartoon villains, genociding people, killing their subordinates for the slightest failure, eliminating all traces of culture from hostile lands, scheme and backstab each other at every opportunity
>sociopaths on /v/ still think they're the good guys

Same people that defend the Legion in Fallout NV, I bet.

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Why is SAM so fun, bros?

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>>381417106
>>writers get butthurt and turn garleans into mustache twirling caricatures

I know what that feels like

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>>381419127
>Alisae's Rapier is the Lore Rapier
>Dying it changes the color of the metal parts, not the crystal so you can't actually get hers

So, which dungeon will be first one to get hard version?

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Is there any place where I can find the wolf race besides some mobs after beating the msq? Like a city or something?

What happened with the huge one?

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STORM OF BLOOD
BORN OF BLOOD
OF OUR FALLEN BROTHERS

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>>381419247

>thought I'd get bored unsheathing my katana after a while
>20 levels later it's still fun

Haven't found anything else more satisfying than a Kaiten buffed direct hit Madare Setsugekka.

>>381418805
so how was XII related to the game, I never played it
>>381419297
>yfw the last dungeon of the expansion is Ala Mhigo (Hard)

>>381417065
Fuck, it shouldnt have hit me as hard as it did.

>It's a "Tank always pulls the mobs just outside of your Doton" episode.

>>381417106
Personally I'm more sympathetic to them now than before. Gaius was just an enemy to beat and their brief appearance in HW was about as cartoon villain as it gets. They've always been the antagonist but Zenos is entertaining as fuck and they made a good case with Yotsuyu on how backwards some nations are left alone.

>Before SB was released all /v/ elitists screamed how they will kick any healer who didn't picked cleric stance
>CS turned out to be a waste of slot
Why /v/ hivemind is always so wrong?

>>381419426
taking your shitty little hole in the ground from the big bad empire guy

Remember it only has to be kind of tangently related. Regula's thing revolved around the Warring Triad but he didn't become Kefka or anything

>>381419371
Went on vacation with Arenvald and his cats.

>>381417839
>>381417867
Social justice beastmen please go

>>381419552
/v/ also said red mage would be bad just looking at the potencies

>>381419634
And that it would have MP issues.

>soken didn't use this as lakshmi's phase 1 theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fprhlzyl30s

missed opportunity desu

>>381419634
the only thing I don't like about RDM is their one party utility buff is pretty meh in part of the decaying thing

>>381419634
but rdm is bad
is really easy to mess up whatever you are doing

>use the worng spell
>your high dps is fucking gone

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Top of the world ma!

There may not have been an achievement for this, or anything other then personal satisfaction, but DAMN it felt watching others struggle below

>>381419841
>use the wrong spell
>come back to it later

Impact/Fire/Stone ready are 30s buffs, it's fucking fine.

thank god I cut my teeth on jumping puzzles in GW2. this shit was piss easy compared to the crap in GW2

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>yet ANOTHER maintenance
What the fuck are they doing with this game holy shit

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>>381419898
>mised a spell
>white or black mana difference is now 30 or more
>every spells gives you half the points

>>381419982
I'm just seeing maintenance on only the Ruby Sea.

Decided to do crystal tower prequests
Fuck this world, why this fate shit wasn't removed or spawn more often

>>381418065
Is that dps? Is MCH in the cuckshed?

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>>381419437
Legit made me feel like a piece of shit

>>381419841
>RDM is bad if you fuck up
Wow, great insight there.

>just finished up ruby sea and moved on to yanxia last night

wew

>>381420006
>actually letting the balance disparity actually get that high

Literally alternate your spells you dingdong

>Jolt->Veraero (verstone procs)
>Verstone->Verthunder (verfire procs)
>Verfire->Veraero

You should only use Verfire->Verthunder or Verstone->Veraero if you need to close a mana gap for some reason.

>>381418164
>a corrupt gold jew merchant nation that plays game of thrones and uses citizens as pawns

aaaaaaand this is bad how?

>>381419559
isnt that like half of the FF games though?
>>381420006
if your mana difference is that large you simply fucked up in the first place
the only other thing I can think of that people might see as suboptimal is going over the 80/80 needed for a combo but I don't know if that's a dps loss as long as you don't cap at 100 because your next combo and come faster

>>381420209
trump shill detected

>>381420276
even if you cap out at 100/100 the mana gap is only going to be 21 after casting Verflare/holy so you just re-close it by using the opposite.

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>all these new areas
>none of them have enter able buildings
W H Y
H
Y
YOU HAVE AN EVENT BIGGER BUDGET THEN HW
YOU FUCKING FUCKS I SWEAR TO GOD

Is Geirskogul piercing damage?

>>381420276
now that I think of it, capping out at 100/100 might even be what you want during downtime like it's a DPS check but you know you don't need that burst, but then I don't do anything difficult so I wouldn't know
>>381420372
I bet that's the intended purpose of acceleration, to close the gap after one of the finishers

>>381415207
Our FC cleared Susano 20 levels below his minimum, the primals are already a joke.

>>381420580
>capping out at 100/100 might even be what you want during downtime like it's a DPS check but you know you don't need that burst
Would rather sit at 100/<99 and spam one spell type at that point, if I were holding my burst intentionally.

is the japanese for the game any good? I've never listened to it.

>>381420407
PS4 limitations, prease undastandu

>>381420407
What, so you can see the same living room assets recycled 50 more times?

>>381420671
THEY HAD THEM WHEN THE PS3 EXISTED
NO
EXCUSE

Did Zenos make anybody else gay

>>381420643
better than the english for sure

>>381420878
Estinien has the honor of being the first to do that.

>>381420914
the English is pretty good, maybe i'll re watch the cut scenes in weeb after I'm done

>>381420643
It's pretty egregiously hammy and severely miscast in places. Unless you're weeb cancer, you don't really gain anything from it once you get to 2.4 or so and the English cast switches to max bong.

>>381420621
>spam one spell type

You can't though because Jolt and Impact give both mana, and Veraero/thunder take too long to hard cast so it'd be a waste

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STUPID WOLF
YA MADE ME LOOK BAD

>>381420643
>>381420982
Jap voices are worth it for Yosuke Akimoto as Gosetsu alone

>>381421004
Right, well, I guess it cannot be helped then. Verstone and Verfire procs are handed out like candy anyway, so its not the worst thing in the world.

BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS, ACROSS THE EMERALD DALE

>>381420643
Its really good, Gosetsu and Midgarsomr are godlike in jap

>>381421126
De gozaru is never worth it.

>>381421150
ON MARCH THE IVORY STANDARD, UNITED WE PREVAIL

>Nidhogg's eyes cause trouble for like the fourth goddamn time
At least Estinien ended that bullshit once and for all.

>>381421128
Yeah it's not going to kill you to not have the guaranteed fire/stone ready procs. It's not like you can't hold onto one from before switching to the melee combo either

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WHY DO DPS HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING TROUBLE TO NOT FUCK UP THE CLOUDS IN SUSANO EX

>>381421194
Shut your fucking mouth, yosukes DE GOZARAN is great

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>fighting Zeno for the second time
>think this exact theme will pop up
https://youtu.be/6DX3qIf4EDc?t=6m
>it doesn't
>doesn't appear in the last fight against him either


regardless I still liked him as a villian
tfw there will never be an actually challenging fight against him in his human form

>>381420982
>weeb cancer
>4chan
really makes me think