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What's your dream team?

Mine is:
Meta Cooler
Meta Cooler
Meta Cooler

Also, which characters deserve spots? Does 17 deserve one over 16? Does Yamcha deserve one over Bardock? Does Nappa deserve one over Broly? You decide!
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Yamcha
Yamcha
Yamcha
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>>381388684
Cell, Gohan Vegeta.
I don't have any crazy wishes, but Trunks would be cool.
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>>381388764
Related
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Recoome
Jeice
Burter
>combo super with Jeice and Burter
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>>381388684
Meta Cooler fags were the worst in RB3, I hope you choke on your own vomit

As for roster, lets be honest; We KNOW Bardock and Broly are getting slots. They never don't. They're too popular. Yamcha and Nappa? Unlikely given the smaller scale of the roster.

We're likely to see Goku Vegeta Trunks Cell Freiza Gohan (Young) Gohan (Adult) Gotenks Krillin Goku-Black Beerus Hit Zamasu Bardock Broly 18 plus one or two filler
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>>381388119
Mmmm, I definitely see what you mean, but it isn't something that I think about. Nappa did in fact fuck niggas up, but it didn't leave a lasting impression on me like Broly did. Still, I think Broly's signature wrestling style moves, and unique aura effects edge it out, but Nappa still is a solid character who I wouldn't mind seeing. Having 2 grappler types isn't bad, and they're the two most notable ones I can think of.
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>>381389220
>Implying they'll be in
>Implying Ginyu won't have attacks involving the entire Force, with his Super being t bring them all in at once.
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>>381389248
>Meta Cooler fags were the worst in RB3
I think you mean Mystic Gohan fags. Every character was tame in comparison to that fucker.
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No SSR and SSB versions no buy. And they better not add that non canon GT shit in.
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>>381388684
What happened to the supposed character reveals?
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SSJ3 Goku
SSJ1 Broly
SSJ1 Captain Marvel
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17, 18, and Trunks.

>>381389383
I doubt they'd give Frieza a Gold install and not give Goku and Vegeta Blue installs.

>>381389248
None of that shit matters because none of those games are competitive fighters. It's like saying you hate Lars playing in Tekken 7 because you didn't like him in Naruto Ninja Storm 2 or whatever the fuck shit game he was in before that.
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I only need one character; SSJ5 Goku.
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my wifes gonna be in this game for sure right
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>Does Nappa deserve one over Broly?
Yes. No movie characters please
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Will DBS Future Trunks be in?
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>>381390070
stop shitposting and prepare for the tournament, krillin
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>>381390292
no one else has their DBS costume so probably not. and they don't do costume DLC.
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>>381390210
>The characters with the most interesting movesets and designs shouldn't have slots
Lame as fuck, and a great way to get even less sales considering they want unique characters.

also
>no movie characters
>game already has a movie character
get ruf fukd
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>>381390070

sauce
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>>381390292

Everyone is wearing their Z costume. They'll probably make a Trunks color that changes his hair/jacket/shirt/etc.
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>>381388684
you should not be able to chose 3 of the same character unless its saibamen
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>>381390578
>game already has a movie character
Which one?
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>>381388684
18
Lunch
Chichi
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>>381390292
>will pedestrian choice be in
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Arale, Roshi, Yajirobe
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will this suave motherfucker be in
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>>381388684
Raditz
Nappa
Sayian Saga Vegeta

I just really like the Sayian Saga and later Dragon Ball. Nothing would make me happier then being able to play as the Sayian Invasion Force.
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Future Trunks + 17 + 18
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>>381390751
golden frieza, dude.
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>>381391098
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>>381391024
Him and the other metrosexual characters won't make it in due to low demand, unfortunately.
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Frieza
Cooler
King Cold
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>>381390710
>he doesn't want 3 cooler team
Saibamen and Cooler are the only characters in DBZ that actually make sense having multiples, and Cell jrs. It's a great addition.
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>>381391526
didnt watch his movie
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>>381388764
Yamcha
Kale
Caulifla
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>>381391024
No. He's as memorable as the Herans.
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>>381388684
hakai goku, ssj5 goku, and meta cooler
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>>381391796
Which one?
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>>381391270
Golden Freeza is also from Super, the canon continuation of DB
So not exclusively a movie character like Broly
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>>381389248
you fucking retarded. Yamcha and Nappa were in Burstlimits small roster.
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>>381391796
>he doesn't like notcrylikeabitchfrieza
Dang anon, sucks to be you.
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>>381388684
probably frieza, vegeta and filler. nail's never gonna happen, hopefully a costume for piccolo at least.
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>>381388684
BOJACK
O
J
A
C
K
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>>381388684
Cui
Dodoria
Zarbon
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Mystic Gohan
18
Gotenks
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>>381388684
Arale
Kid Goku
Yamcha

Arale and kid goku is my OTP
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>>381388684
>Vegeta
>Cell
>Likely Gohan, Youth or Mystic
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>Rose Black
>Vegito Blue
>Golden Frieza
Team Pallet Swap
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My hopes and speculation for this game that I REALLY fucking want. I don't even like Fighting Games that much.

>CONFIRMED
Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Freeza
Cell
Buu

>PRACTICALLY GUARANTEED
Android 18
Android 17
Krillin
Trunks (probably just future because Kid Trunks doesn't bring any unique moves to the table)
Beerus
Mr. Satan
Piccolo
Gotenks (brings a lot of unique moves to the game such as the Kamikaze Ghost Attack and such)

>PROBABLY
Master Roshi
Whis
Babidi (spammy keep away character theres always at least one)
Tenshinhan
Android 16
Raditz
Nappa

>MAYBE
Bardock
Uub
Zarbon
Doctor Gero (another unique moveset with KI draining so that could be cool)
Android 19 (same as Doctor Gero)
Yamcha
Goten
Kid Trunks
Captain Ginyu (could do something cool with body swaping just not sure how they would pull it off)

>COMPLETE UNKNOWN
Mr. Popo
Kami
Korin
Dende
Bulma
Chaozu
Videl
Yajirobe
Arale
Dodoria
Fortuneteller Baba
Anyone from any of the different Universes in Dragon Ball Super
Anyone from the Ginyu Force other than Ginyu
Any of the Kais
Anyone from Dragon Ball Era such as Kid Goku, King Piccolo, Chi Chi, etc.
Any different forms of Buu
Any fusions such as Vegito, Gogeta, etc.
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>>381388684
Zamas
Zamas
Zamas
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>>381392830
>Rose Black
>mfw i just realized that rose black is a palette swap of a palette swap
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Confirmed
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Frieza
>Cell
>Buu
So what's fucking next? The rest of the Z fighters are basically in, that means we can add
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Tenshinhan
>Yamcha
>Future Trunks
>Gotenks
From there, it gets harder to guess.
>Nappa
>Captain Ginyu, maybe, as a Captain Commando homage with the rest of the Ginyu Force summons as specials.
>Mr. Satan as the designated joke character
Androids should get in, looking at 16, 17 and 18 because 3v3, but really only 18 is guaranteed.
>Super Buu or Kid Buu, not both
>Beerus as the Arcade mode boss

That's 18 characters so far, most of them obvious but also some unlikely choices. Now for the wishlist
>Cooler
>Android 13
>Janemba
>anything before Z. Tao, Launch, Demon Piccolo, Devilman, kid Goku, anything.
>ChiChi
>Great Saiyaman
>Arale
>Vegito or Gogeta as a secret boss, a la Order Sol

These guys are likely DLC because ArcSys
>Broly
>Bardock
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Future Trunks is mandatory in a fighter like this
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>>381392932
I'm confused by these. Is this your prediction or your hopes? It sounds like your hopes, but then you have a probability rating on your hopes?
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Post YFW he gets in.
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>>381393074
I like to be realistic about my hopes. I also said it's speculation.
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>>381392985
>Yamcha
>Z fighter
Yeah, technically, even though he never did jack shit after the Saiyan Saga. Tien at least kept training, held back Cell for a page or two, and saved Gohan's life in the Buu saga.

I swear Yamcha doesn't deserve a spot, 17 deserves it more and he's literally just a male 18.
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>>381388684
Cell, Piccolo, and Bardock or Broly, depends if either get onto the main roster or DLC. I expect Broly is a lock but Bardock could only possibly get in as after-the-fact DLC.

I'm hoping for stretchy limb zoner Piccolo and grappler Broly based on their manga/anime attacks. Piccolo has a lot of zoner properties and Broly's entire attack set in every appearance consists of lariats and manhandling people by the face. Bardock I'd like to see sort of as a glass canon type character who goes for heavy offenses charges and high damage but gets blown u easy if your offense fails.
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>>381392970
Jokes aside, I do hope Rose and Vegito Blue make it in. As bad as that saga was, those guys were pretty cool.
Also, props to Toriyama since a Black Rose is supposed to be a symbol of great change or anarchy, which was kind of his goal
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>>381393085
I'd fucking kill for 16 too. It's a 3v3 game, makes sense to put the Android trio in there
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Ultimate Gohan and Majin Vegeta are all I want.
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>>381393336
>Majin Vegeta
so fucking unlikely it's sad
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>>381393224
yamcha actually has moves that can be translated into a viable fighting game character. People who legit think he doesn't deserve to be in are probably xenoverse/budokai fags who have no experience with a proper fighter.
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>>381393224
He is a meme and that's basically what's getting him in. You can make Wolf Fang Fist a rekka, maybe even make the Spirit Ball into Millia's Secret Garden.
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>>381393547
>actually has moves that can be translated into a viable fighting game character.
Name 3 that are unique to him and have appeared in the manga.
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>>381393547
>xenoverse/budokai fags

Please don't lump Xenoverse with Budokai.

Xenoverse is to Budokai what musous are to actual action games.
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>>381393538
N-No I like killing myself in order to kill my enemy.
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>>381393643
Wolf Fang Fist
Spirit Ball
Insta-Death
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>>381393643
Spirit ball and wolf fang fist. I mean I could easily flip it and say name three unique vegeta moves. He has final flash, galick gun, and Big bang attack. Two of which are just generic beam supers that are undifferentiated from a kamehameha.
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>>381391945
>>381392213
i've only watched the movies my friend had. The Future Trunks one and the Bardock one
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>>381393728
>>381393789
>spirit ball unique to yamcha
What
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>>381393650
Musous are a successor to the beat-em-up genre, and the only way to do a beat-em-up in 3D.
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>>381393894
Krillin used it once in the Buu saga, but aside from that it's 100% Yamcha
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>>381393894
You forgot Yamcha's ultimate technique?
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>>381394108
I'll admit, I was mistaking spirit ball for spirit bomb.
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>>381393789
No but dude, try and get what I'm tying to say. Yamcha has 2 moves unique to him. That's not special in the slightest. WFF as a rekka? Cool, but Sokidan is going to be his Super move, so expecting some cool Millia Garden tech is a no go, or if it is, it's still an instant 3 bar investment, which means it's not as viable as a normal special.

Yamcha doesn't have enough moves man, he just doesn't.

>Vegeta
Galick Gun
Big Bang Attack
Final Flash
Gamma Burst Flash(DBS manga)
Rapid ki blasts(he pioneered this)
Dirty fireworks(killing Cui)
His attack that killed Pui Pui
His ki rings used on SSJ2 Goku

That's what Vegeta has, and they aren't even using half of it.

I like Yamcha, but just because he has 2 moves doesn't warrant him a slot. And also, I reread the manga fights, I don't even see enough material to give him a solid fighting style. Go and reread it, don't watch it, he has little to pull from.
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>>381394035
No.
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>>381394108
More like he never read Dragon Ball and is exclusively a Zkiddie.
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>>381394267
Yes.
You plow through enemies the same way you do in a side-scrolling beat-em-up, only in 3D.
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>>381393894
>literally developed by Yamcha and his signature technique alongside Wolf Fang Fist
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>>381394108
>literally a Costanza
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>>381394035
DMC is a beat-em-up. As is Bayonetta and MGR.
The musou comparison is still apt. Musous make shit beat-em-ups
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>>381391945
I have the Cooler movies if you want to borrow them
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>>381393301
>17 and 18
get absorbed by Cell when he's anchor
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>>381394364
No, there's actually an enormous amount of ways you could do a beat'em up in 3D. Like the entire hack'n'slash genre, as one example. Musou gameplay is the shittiest possible version of a 3D action game. Unresponsive, heavily scripted, shallow as a puddle, unsatisfying, brain numbingly boring character interactions.

If your imagination limits 3D action to musou gameplay, that's literally just your own simple brain holding you back.
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>>381394494
I didn't know Beat-em-ups were restricted to one style. I guess ARPG's aren't RPG's.
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What if Brolly took all 3 of your charater slots and was super beefy with a ton of super armor on his special attacks
>>381394509
>640x360
>now on xbox
lel
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Yay or nay

17 and 18 are duo characters(2 in 1)
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>>381394620
What? What does anything you just said relate to what I said?
Musous still count as beat-em-ups. They're just shit ones.
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Did they announce new characters finally?
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>>381394604
>Unresponsive
>Heavily Scripted
Have you ever played a musou?
>Brain numbingly boring character interactions
You haven't.

>>381394752
Why are they shitty?
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>>381394758
Bio-broly
Piccolo
Gotenks
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>>381394758
Yeah, Nekomajin made it in, those guys at arcsys are crazy.
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>>381394806
>Have you ever played a musou?
Yes hence my 1:1 description of them.
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>>381394364
>God Hand
Now fuck off musoushit.
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>>381394806
>Why are they shitty?
Go and play an old beat-em-up. Streets of Rage, anything. Name me a single instance of that game where enemies go down as easily as the hordes of inflated paper bags that you fight in a musou do.
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>Kid Goku
>Bardock
>Gotenks

Kid Goku has no chance (he was skipped in the Xenoverse games, and Butoden so they'll probably skip him again)
Bardock is a favorite that gets in most games so he may be in
Gotenks is definitely in since he's another favorite

So 1 is a definite, 1 is a maybe, and the other is a no fucking way. I'm ok about this.
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>>381394806
Are you actually trying to say that musou games aren't fucking terrible with character interactions?
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>>381394874
Seems you haven't played enough of them, or only played one game and decided to generalize all musou titles based on it.

>>381394957
I reiterate: I didn't know there was only one way to do a beat-em-up in 3D.

>>381394996
There's your problem, you're playing in normal or easy mode. Casual faggot.

>>381395068
They aren't. You can say you don't prefer the traditional musous (DW/SW), but to say they're terrible is being unfair and biased.
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>>381395048
>Kid Goku
>Bardock

One can hope, anon.
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>>381395048
I wouldn't say he has no chance. He'd have a very unique style and they said they planned to pull characters from all eras. He'd definitely be a fan favorite if he gets in.
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>>381395048
Kid Goku is practically confirmed
>We want fans of all DB generations
>We want unique characters
Kid Goku is basically guaranteed like Piccolo.
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>>381395215
>Seems you haven't played enough of them

Yeah but see, I actually have, hence my 1:1 description of them. So do you have some argument against the facts laid out in my post?
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>>381391024
I would rather have him over ginyu
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>>381395296
>Salza blade tech
sounds juicy all ready.
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>>381392932
Bardock and Jiren (The alien from the super opening) have a stupidly good chance.
Fused Zamasu or Zamasu also.

Metal Cooler would be super secret unlock.
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>>381392932
Move 17 down to maybe, and add broly to pratically garanteed
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>>381395384
Jiren might have a chance as DLC, but I doubt he'll be in the base game.
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>>381395215
>They aren't.
Yes they are. I've played enough musou garbage to be able to come to hat conclusion. the characters are almost always terrible and the interactions are terrible too. Fuck off Koei shill.
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>>381395384
>Jiren
>character who's literally only combat scene is a 10 second intro fight to DBS
>stupidly good chance
Anon, are you okay?
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>>381388684
Doesn't matter. Game will suck because 15 character cast
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>Takes place in the same universe as Dr. Slump
>Arale never came to help in a fight against Cell and later on, Buu

Toriyama is a hack.
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>>381390292
Would make more sense since he has more attacks available and thus more to work from when making a move set.
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>>381395292
Fine.
>facts
You're cute.
No game I've played has had any notable glitches or bugs that made the gameplay unresponsive. Design-wise, some things have been iffy, but never broken. Heavily scripted is bullshit when you can break sequences if you're at a high enough level unless the stage asks for a specific event to occur, which is understandable.

While musous aren't deep, they're not shallow. I'd say there's more in a basic moveset for a character in DW8 than in BEU's of the past. Much more. And unsatisfying is wrong. You don't know the thrill of clearing out a whole map of enemies and making their territory yours, or can't appreciate it. And again, you can dislike the characters, but there's a lot of decent character interactions, and admittedly there are one-note characters with a basic trait (Zhu "Fire Attack" Ran).

While the genre isn't perfect, calling it outright shit with no redeeming qualities is plain wrong.
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I always enjoy when a game includes unlikely or obscure characters.
what a nice surprise it would be for Pikkon or Bubbles got in
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>>381395693
>>381395501
Seems by the time it's coming out in 2018, Jiren will be a well known character. It's an educated guess but only because he's so prominent in the intro.
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>>381395715

Gag abilities are OP. They had to send her to Disneyworld.
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When are these niggas making a jojo game
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>>381394712
>Compression, whats that?
Your Xbox jokes are lame
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>>381395986
Hopefully fucking never.
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>inb4 Broly God DLC
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>>381395869
Filler characters like Pikkon don't stand a single fucking chance in hell
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>>381395869
I'm willing to bet everything that the "obscure" or "unlikely" character would be Bulma or Launch. Arc Sys will have the first fighting game where one of those is playable. That'd be quite a bragging feat.
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>>381395986
The Capcom game is as good as it's ever gonna get
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Not gonna waste my time with this, way too basic and easy for me. I"ll be play Marvel vs Capcom: Infiniteâ„¢. That game is sick and creative enough to let me paint any picture I want with its awesome gameplay.
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>>381395986

>Arcsys will never make a Jojo or Saint Seiya fighter.
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>>381396118
More like Justin Wrong
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>>381395263
>>381395268
Now your going to make me search every interview to find that quote about this. I would be ecstatic if Kid Goku was finally in a DB fighting game again. Especially after that shaft they gave us in Xenoverse 2.
Giving Goku (GT) Kid Goku's moves instead of easily just giving him a spot. I don't think Goku in GT ever even touched the Power pole?
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>tfw no lean green murder machine

who else is green int his series besides picollo and bojack? Obviously someone who isn't Namekian. Team Green would be my main.
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>Golden Freeza winds up the only nuDB/Super content
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>>381388684
Cell, Majin Vegeta, Piccolo
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>>381396223
Pikkon. Broly if you count his hair.
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>>381396263
You know we are getting the meme god cat
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>>381396196
why does this game have like 3 trunks, 5 gokus, and 5 gohans? What a shit fucking roster.
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>>381395986
>Arcsys will never remaster the HnK game
People still play it too, come on.
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>>381396223
Broly, that green thing that killed krillin and saibamen
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This guy
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>>381396263
Golden Freeza is technically a DBZ character. Nothing from Super has been confirmed yet.

>>381396223
Cell you fucking retard.
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>>381396038
God I hate broly and his legion of fan fags
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>>381396223
seriously?
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>>381396196
Path to Power used GT Goku's design for DB Goku so maybe that's why they gave him that moveset?
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>>381396223
>/v/ is so fucking dumb they can't remember the best DBZ villain
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>>381396379
>that green thing that killed krillin
Tambourine?
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>>381396461
They bring money tho
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>>381396521
I remember Frieza perfectly.
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>>381396118
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>>381396557
Yeah, him
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>>381396461
Broly is going to be the slow grappler character and there's no way out of it
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>>381396379
>>381396223

no one remembers?
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>>381396461
I'll take them over Beerus, Zamasu and Blackfags
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>>381396397
>This idiot yet again
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>>381396695
>Zamasu and Blackfags
these are literally deviantart's sonic fanbase evolved

Search those 2 there and you will see some fucked up shit
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>>381396695
>cat man with interesting design and character is somehow worse than a fucking brick with legs like Broly
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>>381396724
?????????
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>>381396884
I think he means the fanbase, not the characters themselves
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>>381396884
>cat with no fur
>interesting design
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>>381396461
Broly is a great villain.

Anyone can say >m-muh hulk, m-muh kakarot
the same way anyone can say >m-muh final form, m-muh pride, m-muh perfection.

In reality, no villain is actually written well, and Broly is far from the worst in both canon and non-canon. Antibrolyfags are worse than actual brolyfags.
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>>381396884
>Beerus
>character
DUDE FOOD GAG LOL
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>>381396351
The roster is actually pretty big, but they make like 2-4 versions of every character. Not even huge changes to each one, just a new transformation or move thrown in.
>>381396501
You may be right? I never thought of it that way.
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>>381397018
>In reality, no villain is actually written well
Top kek fucking DBZfags.
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>>381397018
You're legitimately a moron if you think Broly isn't a worse villain than Cell, Vegeta or Freeza.
Broly's fucking dad is a better villain than Broly himself.
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>>381390475
Vegeta and Goku are wearing their dbs costumes. Dead giveaway is Goku's gi having the characters but him sporting the waist-wrap rather than his classic belt. His waist wrap look never had a character on it in Z, only in super.

Sauce: im autistic
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>>381394604
>>381394874
>>381395292
>he doesn't like mindless fun
Come to /eagg/ faggot and say that shit to our face.
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>>381396884
>Le fanfic God cat
>food lmao
>say that again I'll destroy you!! D:<
So much better than Broly, amirite chuguise?!
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>>381396610
>>381396118
back to /r/kappa you underage summerfag redditcucks
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>>381397164
>Vegeta and Goku are wearing their dbs costumes
What? No they aren't.
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>>381396927
>FighterZ means Z exclusively
>When games explicitly labeled as DBZ have had non-Z characters in for the longest
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>>381388684
Piccolo
Demon King Piccolo
Kami
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>>381397160
Broly is infinitely better as a villain than Vegeta. His fight wasn't better than Vegeta's, but Vegeta was never a great villain and his story consists only of "I want to be immortal" and "I'm to edgy to care about the saiyans that got killed by Frieza, they were weak anyways, pfft."

Broly was an actual fucking legend. It's stated in the movie, Vegeta is the only true saiyan Z fighter, so only he understand what Broly means to the Saiyans, which is why he's the one that's scared shitless, Broly is like a fucking god to him. And Broly actually had motivation, he and his father wanted to rule planets and get revenge on Vegeta, but Broly got sidetracked because of Goku.
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>>381397160
Broly is way better than Cell who's motivation completely evaporates after becoming perfect.
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>>381396263
Golden Frieza is technically a DBZ character since the movie
it triggers my autism to since he's associated more with Super because people forget the movie, but i think they're going with everyone having form changes to activate as specials
but hey at least that means Beerus is gonna be in
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>>381397472
Cell's entire motivation was that he was Goku without morality. He just wanted a good fight.
Which I personally consider a more interesting motivation than
>hurr goku annoyed me when I was a baby
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>>381397518
I think they've said that not everyone will have a form change.
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>>381397446
>Broly was an actual fucking legend. It's stated in the movie
Ah fuck off. The legendary super saiyan spiel was a weak justification then, and it's only gotten weaker since.
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>>381397472
>Broly
>I'm gonna rule the uni-KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOT!
>Cell
>Well, I've become Perfect now. Time to show off and see what the rest of the world's got, and if they don't have something better then I'll BLOW THEM TO BITS!
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Janemba
Mystic Gohan
Future Trunks

or

Super Buu
Janemba
Mystic Gohan
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>>381397518
I'm hoping for one more transformation, make it a five bar super. Buff Roshi
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>>381397518
Too bad his movie was the worst in the franchise because it dragged on for an eternity without even the slightest bit of tension and the actual fight between him and Goku was awful
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>>381397160
>if you think Broly isn't a worse villain than Cell, Vegeta or Freeza.
Let's see.
>>Cell
>Absorb Androids
>???
>Profit
Wow, nice. Cell wasn't even the best villain of his arc, the androids were, and they were sidetracked the instant he got on board.

>>Vegeta
>Get immortality
>Pretend to be a Super Saiyan
>False pride
>Says Kakarot more than Broly
>cries like a bitch when losing
Mhmm, great villain.
>inb4 Vegeta gets redeemed
So he's no longer a villain? Which means he doesn't qualify as being a better villain than Broly?

>>Frieza
>Space pirate
kinda cool
>Every fucking page he gets a new form that's stronger than everyone else
nice plot
>cries like a bitch when he loses
great, I see where Vegeta gets it
>resorts to nuking the planet when he knows he's lost
awesome
>trains for 4 months

haha, yeah, okay, antibrolyfags are funny.
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>>381397908
>providing more character traits for Vegeta and Freeza than Broly ever had
Thanks for proving my point I guess
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>>381397864
>>I'm gonna rule the uni-KAKAROOOOOOOOOOOOT!
I love how this falls completely to pieces because after Broly transforms he doesn't even care about Goku anymore, he just cares about fucking everyone slowly until they die while saving Goku for last.
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>>381397908
>Meanwhile all Broly does is get triggered harder than his own fans
Broly's best when half of him is Goku.
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>>381398013
>m-my character has more traits than yours
And they're all shitty ones.

Broly's 1 trait of being a beast is better than villain Vegeta's 3 shitty ones.
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>>381398090
Does Broku get self-triggered?

Actual serious not antibroly question, never played fusions
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>>381395850
>You're cute.
You too bbg.

>No game I've played has had any notable glitches or bugs that made the gameplay unresponsive
That's because it's so shit it's unresponsive independent of glitches or bugs, its intentionally programmed that way.

>Heavily scripted is bullshit
No, it's not. The game is literally just pressing one input for a series of scripted animations.

>While musous aren't deep, they're not shallow.
They absolutely are. Attacking is based around literally two input trees.

>You don't know the thrill of clearing out a whole map of enemies and making their territory yours, or can't appreciate it
Can't appreciate it because it was completely unrewarding or satisfying to do because it feels like waving fans through some on-screen "enemies" that you sweep through with your broad heavily scripted attacks on your two button input "combo" trees and then maybe running into a couple damage sponge boss enemies who when you hit them do not even respond physically in coordination with your strikes until you wail on them enough they die then rinse and repeat. There's nothing in these games but joyless automation of shallow gameplay and enemy responses to attacks that might as well be sweeping up some dirt one death.
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caulifla
tien/frieza
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>>381398212
I don't think you quite understand what makes a good character or villain.
Because it isn't a complete lack of any kind of personality beyond screaming and rage.

The fact that Vegeta HAS an emotional response when he loses immediately makes him more compelling than Broly.
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>Goku
>Vegeta
>Teen Gohan
>Ultimate Gohan
>Piccolo
>Future Trunks
>Krillin
>Ten shin han
>18
>Gotenks
>Vegito
>Ginyu (w Ginyu force )
>Frieza
>Cell
>Majin Buu
>Kid Buu
>Beerus
>Goku Black
>Hit
>Zamasu

DLC
>Broly
>Bardock
>Janemba
>Gogeta
>Vegito Blue
>Jinren
>Merged Zamasu
>Baby Vegeta
>Super 17
>Omega Shenron
>SSJ4 Gogeta

Perfect roster here it covers all the relevant characters from z and the DLC takes care of the movie, super and gt autism
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>>381396118
Why are people so angry at Justin?
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>>381398013
>more character traits =/= good character
Doesn't matter how little Broly has, Vegeta had no redeeming qualities as a villain. Frieza's only redeeming quality was being a great enemy to Goku, they have perfect chemistry, which is why Goku is always fighting Frieza in some way.
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>>381398268
Nope, Karoly is almost completely controlled by Goku, though admittedly Broly had just gotten his teeth kicked in before it happened. Also Fusions is best best DB game to come out in years, and has one of the best stories out of gaming in general from the past few years.
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>>381398460
Pedo
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>>381398412
>Zamasu, Hit or Black getting in before Broly or Bardock
>using Vegito Blue over SSj
Things that won't happen
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>>381398385
>I don't think you quite understand what makes a good character or villain.
A trait that either makes them relatable, or a trait that provokes emotion in the viewer.

Vegeta is a boring villain with nothing that makes him interesting. Broly was at least cool.

>Vegeta HAS an emotional response when he loses immediately makes him more compelling than Broly.
Broly has just as much emotion as Vegeta, his emotion is confusion and anger instead of bitterness and sorrow.
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>>381398352
>That's because it's so shit it's unresponsive independent of glitches or bugs, its intentionally programmed that way.
Really now?

>No, it's not. The game is literally just pressing one input for a series of scripted animations.
>They absolutely are. Attacking is based around literally two input trees.
Just like every other game on the market. I see. Musous are shit because they're too videogamey.

Now it makes sense.
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>>381398489
>and has one of the best stories out of gaming in general from the past few years.
okay weeb.
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>>381398608
Hit probably would. Guy's pretty cool, and has a more unique moveset. He's also better than Broly in a lot of ways.
>>381398697
But it's so fucking lovingly simple. No stupid 'Teh sooper ebil thing we must fight!'. It was the perfect DB story. You and your best friend just wanna fucking fight in an awesome tournament.
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>>381398412
SSJ4 Gogeta is a pipe dream.

>>381398689
>Really now?
Yup.

>Just like every other game on the market. I see. Musous are shit because they're too videogamey.
Oh haha you're just interested in making strawman non-arguments. Alright well you don't need me to do that, have fun!
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>>381398674
>Broly has just as much emotion as Vegeta, his emotion is confusion and anger instead of bitterness and sorrow.
It's like people don't even watch the shit they try to shit on. Anyone who has watched the first Broly movie in Japanese would clearly see that every negative thing about Broly is easily dismissed. He has emotion, he can talk, he isn't brain dead, he's actually clever, and the movie actually presents itself with more despair than many canon moments in the actual anime. His main goal isn't even to kill Goku, Goku just fucked with his head as a child enough to cause Broly to be distracted and lose what little control he had left.

Sure, not everyone likes the film, but people who hate on it seem to have never actually watched it and try to downplay it as hard as they do GT.
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>>381398883
>No stupid 'Teh sooper ebil thing we must fight!'
But that did happen
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>>381398993
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>>381399000
No, it was just Cell and Frieza being Cell and Frieza. I meant the stupid shit of some uber-dark mc grimshank thing out of left field.
>>381398993
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>>381398993
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>>381398993
Future Gohan with one arm
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I wanna play bulma
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>It's a broly hate thread
>they claim LSSJ broly is brain dead and stupid
>only base broly and SSJ broly are "passable"
>when it's actually Base Broly and SSJ Broly that are the braindead ones screaming KAKAROOOOOOT
>their only criticism is that an obviously mentally disturbed being has a hatred for someone who most likely helped cause his mental disturbance.
I liked it better when we argued why Meta Cooler was the obvious choice for the 1 man dream team.
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>>381398993
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>>381399252
>No, it was just Cell and Frieza being Cell and Frieza
Yeah, and you had to fight them because they were super evil and were gonna destroy the universe or some shit.
Because they were magically able to ignore the time limit on five man fusions
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>>381398993
If I can't get Yajirobe...
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>>381388684
Piccolo
Roshi

Then either 18 or Frieza.
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>>381399372
Yes, and the moment you saw Cell and Frieza together you knew exactly how that shit was going down. Didn't make it any less great with the final boss.
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>>381399446
>yfw Cui is a day one lock
>he's actually top tier in the game
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>>381399506
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>>381399446
I'm still surprised they actually remembered him for Tenkaichi 3
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>>381388684
>What's your dream team?

They already got Frieza and Perfect Cell, just need to add Kid Buu and I'm set.

>which characters deserve spots?

Captain Ginyu.
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>>381398993
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>>381389331
>other members of the Ginyu force come in as Ginyu's assist moves and his supers
I can dig it
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Fat Buu
Super Buu
Kid Buu

Never swapping, just letting them progress
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>>381399803
Would make more sense if it was: Kid Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu.
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weren't we supposed to be getting new info today
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>>381400015
Bio-Broly
Piccolo
Gotenks
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Bardock is not coming cause he just goku with a scar on his face.

Broly will be as your slow ass but extremely powerful grappler with a lariat that is half the length of the screen and his eraser cannon orbs shit. It likely be a slow but powerful highly durable green fireball so that broly can close the distance.

Goku black is not coming either. Maybe Bills/Burrus and Wish/Whis. They too important not to come into the game. Also Hit as well.

Also Arale for your goofy ass character.

ADULT Arale cause I really don't want a character with THAT small of a fucking hitbox.
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>>381398993
I want to believe but yeah

>>381399268
Kid Goku is absolutely not a never ever
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>>381399587
Tenkaichi 3 was a Dragon Ball fan's wet dream.
>All the higher Freeza forces + Appule and the generic soldier
>A chunk of the early cast
>A large amount of movie villains
For all the holes that Heroes filled, Tenkaichi did what it was supposed to do.
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>>381400054
>Bio-Broly
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>>381397160
That's the problem though: Broly is intrinsically linked to his dad in terms of motiviation and backstory.

No fucking shit broly seems lame just taken alone, because you are removing half of what makes him interesting,. He's a person who was raised as a living weapon and was psychologically abused. He's a tool, and his father is the person who aims it.

Also, retards mix up broly from movie 8 and movie 10, like >>381397864. He was only a screaming lunatic in movie 10, in movie 8, he actually gets more mentally stable after transforming to LSSJ. He's a violent psychopath still, but he's not retarded. He still talks in complete sentenaces and has a motivation.

>>381397626
>Cell's entire motivation was that he was Goku without morality. He just wanted a good fight.
Also this.
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How would you guys feel if they added in Piccolo, but he wasn't a zoner?
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>>381400064
Adult Arale is top tier waifu
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>>381396118
>creative
I'm sick of this word being thrown around by the Marvel heads lately.
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>>381388684
If the Champ's not in, it belongs in the bin.
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>>381400347
That would be silly. Being a zoner is literally how he fights even in the series now
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>>381400347
I wouldn't expect him to be primarily a zoner. He could have some projectile based pressure with the scatter shot move, can't remember what it's called.
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>>381400362
I wonder if her baby maker works. Penguin Village is some weird ass alternative dimension bullshit. 18 get away with it cause she still a cyborg but Arale is a pure android.

however human tech is pretty bullshit in DBZ.
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>>381400347
Good, I plan on playing him and fuck zoners, plus with all the rushdown that will absolutely be in this game he would be ass.
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>>381388684
>Bardock is not coming cause he just goku with a scar on his face.
Bardock has a completely different fighting style and his meme popularity gives him a massive chance to be in it
>>
So between this and Pokken, we'll have two legit competitive fighting games based on 90's anime properties.

What should be next? My vote is Sailor Moon to complete the main trio.

inb4 people who don't know shit say Pokken isn't competitive even though it has all the same mechanics, systems, and fundamentals as traditional 2d fighters
>>
Movie 8 is worth watching for Vegeta finally snapping out of his bitchfit and immediately getting his shit annihilated alone
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>>381400347
He got long ass fucking limbs, a fucking drilling laser, his demon wave attack as a get the fuck off me super and he can regen.

he is gonna be a pure ass zoner. Bitch relax. there teleport. Just be aware if they add counter to teleport like they did with charging up ki.
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>>381400568
I wonder how they'd improve on the SNES fighters.
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>>381400551
Meant that for>>381400064
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>>381400568
never watched sailor moon, but i think the one with the green hair looks the prettiest.

is it worth it?
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Why does everyone draw Krillin getting cucked by 18?
Are they jealous?
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>>381400685
cuz he's a bald manlet
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>>381400643
>Just be aware if they add counter to teleport
They did. You can instantly turn around to block it, or you can teleport yourself behind their teleport.
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>>381400725
Are they jealous a bald manlet got best girl?
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>>381389954
why does ever fan made version of super saiyan look like a freaking hedgehog? Are they all SONIC fans? SSJ3 hair was a mistake
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easiest roster to predict ever:

-Future Trunks
-Piccolo
-SSJ3 Gotenks
-18
-Krilin
-Beerus
-Tien
-Kid Buu or Super Buu
-Mystic Gohan
-SSJ Vegito
-Yamcha
-17 or 19
-16
-Dabura
-Nappa or Recoome
-Ginyu w/ Ginyu Force as summons

8 heroes and 8 villains


Broly as day one DLC
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>>381400685

NTR fags natural reaction when they see an attractive female with a dopey looking guy is assume she's settling for some reason and that she just needs a dicking to realize she actually loves blacks/fat cocks/old man cocks/money/whatever stupid bullshit they use to project their insecurities this time
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>>381400551
>>381400674
What he got? Oh wow nothing special.
>>381400754
I mean if you hit your opponent when they come out of the teleport, they get counter hit. Like what happens when people get hit while charging ki.

Like if you do a fuck off super like buu or cell, imagine the damage you can do to a teleporting opponent?
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>>381400685
Its about 50/50 from I've seen.
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>>381400682
I don't know much about it either, can't say.

>>381400643
>>381400347
>>381400754
He also has the hellzone grenades he could place as traps. He'll basically be kakyoin from the arcade jojo game, I imagine
>>
WHERE IS PISCCOLO

WHERE IS MY DOCTOR???

I NEED MYT FUCKING DOSE
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>>381400568
>based on 90's anime properties
Pokken isn't based on the pokemon anime though, and it wasn't really contemporary to the other 2 series either.
But if I had to pick a 90's anime to be made into a good 2d fighting game, it would be either Yu Yu Hakusho or G Gundam.
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>>381400870
>17
>19
>W/ ginyu force summons
>Dabura
Not gonna happen. Read the manga, 19 and Dabura have no fights to pull material from.
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>>381400682
>>381400935
It's a good show. Watch it.
Tread slowly with Crystal.
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>>381400947
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>>381400935
Oh right hellzone grenades. I wonder if they be a super with 2 versions of it? One version where each hellzone grenade goes to your opponent and another one where they all go at once like vergil swords.

one for applying pressure and another one for pure damage.
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>>381400947
Take two, and call Dende in the morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo5l-1r8OMo
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>>381401045
nigga there's not enough stuff in the manga but there's the anime to fill the gaps
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>>381400947
>1 every 4 hours
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>>381401078
>>381401162
>>381401251
thanks doc
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>>381400870
>Yamcha
>mr 2 techniques
>on the roster
topkek
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>>381397626
That's his character, not his motivation. Cell's motivation has nothing after he achieved the only he wanted.
>>381397864
Broly didn't care about ruling the universe. He was a legit sociopath that got pleasure out of sadistic torture and destruction. He didn't turn into a retard until he was frozen for the better part of a decade.
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>>381401571
Sokidan=Millia's Ball
Wolf Fist=Rekkas

and the kamehameha

trace his moves from the DB portion
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>>381401597
>Broly didn't care about ruling the universe
Yeah, mainly his father. Broly's entire thing was basically his body trying to turn LSSJ, but his father was suppressing it, making him even more fucked up.
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>>381401597
>Cell's motivation has nothing after he achieved the only he wanted.
He wanted to have a good fight. How is that not a motivation?
Fuck man why do you think he set up the Cell games and waited around for his opponents to train?
>>
Cooler
Cell
Vegeta
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>>381397330
Yes they are, look at the belt.
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>>381401771
It is literally the weakest motivation you could possibly have in a battle manga. What the fuck was he going to do if he won the Cell games and blew up Earth? Just fuck around the universe fighting planets and then blowing them up? It's seriously the weakest out of any villain in he entire franchise. At least half of the movies have better motivations for the villains and they're throwaway plots.
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>>381401705
>tfw you realize that in the manga Yamcha doesn't even have enough moves to trace a combo to pretend it's a special move.

Anime Yamcha is fine, but manga yamcha has jack shit when it comes to potential.
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>>381401948
Goku hasn't had the knot on his belt since Namek.
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>>381401041
>Pokken isn't based on the pokemon anime though

It actually does borrow a lot from the anime. Most of the move's are animated the way the anime shows them: Lucario's bone rush is a laser bone staff, seismic toss is given to charizard and he uses it the way ashs's charizard does, etc.
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>>381402063
Yes, but in Super the Gi has the kanji.
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>>381401948
>>381402063
It's not a belt, it's a sash. It WAS a belt, on namek, but he changed it to a sash.
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Does it have depth, /v/?
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>>381402149
Are you fucking Dumb? The Gi having a symbol on the front is really fucking old.
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>>381388684
I'm probably just going to end up playing Piccolo or Tien.
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>>381402314
Nice photoshop.
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>>381402149
It's really just a combination of his Namek and Buu saga outfits. No clue why they brought back the old kanji instead of Whis' symbol or kanji for Whis.
>>381402152
Don't you argue semantics with me.
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>>381402314
Yes, but the belts are different.
Also the Kanji in that Gi is also different.
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>>381401948
Are you genuinely mentaly retarded
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>>381388684
Desert Bandit Yamcha
Bunny Bulma
Kid Goku
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>>381400685
it just works
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>>381391098
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>>381402247
No. Play MvCI if you want depth.
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Holy shit, Goku is wearing his orange gi. The front and back symbol say "GO" which is the beginning part of his name and stand for "Englightenment." This is the outfit he wore on Namek except with a sash instead of a belt.

shut the fuck up
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>>381402559
you can do better than that. How about Puar or Oolong that has them change forms every single attack. Like pressing a kick button turns oolong into a bull that charges at you or light punch into a bat that flies at you.

But yeah, DB characters need to get in.
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>>381402452
Are you pretending to be dumb or are you just that misinformed?
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>>381402852
But it's on the wrong side. The gi also isn't the same color.
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the more info they release about this game the less interesting it sounds. just because it looks nice doesn't mean it has to play like shit
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>>381402967
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>>381388684
So i'm not the only who noticed Xenoverse 2 had a really weird boner for Meta Cooler?
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>>381403041
What else got revealed since E3?
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>>381388684
frieza
beers
arale
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>>381403085
BUT THE BIG GETE
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>>381402967
>But it's on the wrong side
Mirrored image.
>gi isn't the same color
Because most releases of DBZ are over-saturated as all fuck.
I swear to god.
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You guys are all retarded.
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>>381399293
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>>381392932
I think Super Buu or Kid Buu is practically guaranteed. Whether we get both of them is a more debatable subject.
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>>381400685
he would literally do nothing
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>>381403240
the beerus arc gi is the same as the black and universe survival arc
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>>381403285
I hope it's Kid Buu. The way he fights is so entertaining.
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>>381403240
What the hell happened to Goku's waist in the Beerus arc, did he stop eating?
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>>381403240
He's just wearing the Buu saga uniform with the Namek character on front. What's the character on the Black Arc look like?

If it's different, I don't see why retards are saying he's wearing his super clothes.
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>>381388684

Future Trunks
Piccolo Jr
Vegeta
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>>381403350
SSJG thins the user down a lot. Muscle compression for faster movement or some horseshit like that.
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>>381403306
Yeah, my bad.
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>>381403350
SSJG makes you thin+younger apparently
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>>381403285
You will literally get neither. Buu is already in the game. There will be no clones.
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>>381403380
It's the exact same "Go" kanji as Namek.
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>>381403421
So he's wearing the Gi from BoG? so it's a Z uniform. superfags get out.
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>>381403421
If it is his Gi from Battle of gods, doesn't that still make it Z?
That movie has Z on the label.
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>>381403478
super has no new uniform
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I wish I could get into DBZ. I enjoyed DB but Z was just fucking lame, imo. Still, the game looks fun.
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>>381400275
>He's a person who was raised as a living weapon
That's a blatant lie, Paragus put the device on him because he was destroying planets and was generally unstable anyway
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>>381403548
Originated from a Z movie.
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>>381403215
or gotenks instead of arale
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>>381403415
>>381403447
Yeah but that's like disgustingly thin. Like barely any bones thin. I don't know if they thought that one through, but it is DB.
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>>381403626
ok?
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>>381403451
>Clones.
>When Kid and Super fight completely different.
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>>381388684
>What's your dream team?
A variant of Goku based around only using Kaioken as a risk/reward system.
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>>381403559

Z was lame after the Namek/Freiza saga, as much as I like Future Trunks, the power levels started getting stupid and all the characters fell by the wayside and it became the Goku and Vegeta show. It kinda did that towards the end of the Namek saga too, but at least Krillin, Gohan, Bulma, and Piccolo got to do shit.
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>>381403708
Clones as in any other version of a character. Debate the semantics all you want, there will only be 1 Buu. Same with Goku and Gohan.
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>Game looks dope as fuck
>Suck at fighters
tfw
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12 Heroes

Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Future Trunks
Gotenks
Piccolo
18
Krillin
Tien
Roshi
Videl
Satan

12 Villains

Freeza
Cell
Fat Buu
Kid Buu
Ginyu
Nappa
Dabura
Janemba
Broly
Beerus
Hit
Black

Final Boss: Merged Zamasu

DLC #1: Bardock, Vegito, Mystic Gohan
DLC #2: Kid Goku, Android 20, Mercenary Tao

Total of 30 characters
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>>381403880
Do you really think Adult Gohan isn't going to be in?
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>>381394559
I can't even think about DBZ without masturbating these days.
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>>381403880
this is bait
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>>381403882
Just practice some modern fighting game for awhile
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>>381403880
>Clones as in any other version of a character.
And where was this confirmed?
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>>381403882
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>>381403612
It's both.
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>>381404001
Do you really think he is? Why would they waste resources on a character that's already in?
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>>381404226
not that anon, but i can't see anyway he won't be in
i could be wrong, but don't be so sure
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I might be interested in the game if they announce Hercule
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>>381404226
Because Gohan is an important character and once again Adult Gohan fights pretty differently.
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Will /ourgirl/ make it?
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>>381403882
THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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>>381404458
I don't think we're getting versions of characters that NEVER HAPPENED, but the devs said they may include unconventional characters, so Videl or Chichi or Lunch could happen.
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>>381404462
Who's leg to I have to hump to get some senzu over here?
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>>381404001
What makes him unique enough to warrant his own slot? We already have a Gohan.
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>>381404409
You know who else fights differently? Any other character! As far as important, Goku's pretty important too. Do you think there's gonna be 4 different version of Goku for no fucking reason? Vegeta? Buu? Do you know how they make characters in Xrd? It's not happening. This isn't gonna be some 54 character roster where half of the cast is different versions of the same characters.
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>>381404458
>gt
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>>381404134
>>381403882
>>381404462
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>>381404669
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>>381400871
18 does love money.
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>>381400568
>So between this and Pokken, we'll have two legit competitive fighting games based on 90's anime properties.

>pokken
>legit competitive fighting game
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>>381404737
theres's enough moveset for both Base Vegeta and Majin Vegeta
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>>381404705
His Ultimate Gohan state. That or Great Saiyaman.
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>>381404705
Great Saiyaman
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>>381404967
He still uses basically the same moves though, he's just taller
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I want joke characters like Hercule, Monaka, and Giru, and joke costumes like GoD Frieza, Great Saiyaman Future Trunks, and Cellin.
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>>381388684
Piccolo
Gotenks
Great Saiyaman
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>>381404960
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>>381405136
>Hercule
>A joke character
They're gonna make him legit and he's gonna be top tier
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>>381388684
>Does 17 deserve one over 16?
No

>Does Yamcha deserve one over Bardock?
Yes

>Does Nappa deserve one over Broly?
Yes but Broly will take the spot anyway
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>>381405218
Teen Chi-Chi best Chi-Chi.
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>>381404904
>>381404817
>>381404462
Sonic fans level of autism my gott.
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Pissed off bros, I really am.
Do you have any idea how suffering it is to be a fan of characters non final forms?

I personally adore Imperfect Cell. His design is great, his personality is pure kino and shits on the cocky fucker he becomes in his perfect form (Which was basically his downfall, had he remained ruthless and sly like his imperfect form he woulda fucked everybody else up guaranteed).

Also Frieza's second form is king.

Too bad I won't be getting any of them as usual lmao
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>>381405371
Tbh, teen most females is best.
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>>381404894
It is.

Case in point: A 19 page article about a single piece of tech only a single character can utilize.

https://www.scribd.com/document/351753146/Unblockables

>b-but smash has complex tech too and it's not a fighting game!

Smash is also mechanically and sysetemically dissimilar from both 3d and 2d fighters, as well as having some different fundamentals.

Pokken shares all of it's mechanic,sytems, and fundamentals with traditional 2d fighters.

It has meter, it has attack heights, it has crossups, it has multiple attack buttons, it has cancels, resets are used the same way, there's the oki/wakeup game, footsies, mixups, setups, making reads, all of that shit is the same in pokken as it is in other fighters.

The only way pokken breaks the mold is that instead of having a traditional combo breaker or anti infite system, it shifts the camera to 3d as a forced return to neutral after a certain amount of phase points are racked up (which adds competitive depth compared to most games since you have to factor in how many phase points your combos have, not just damage output); and that instead of teching grabs, attacks beat grabs.

Lastly, the attack height system works diffewrently, but like with the phase system, this adds depth, as there's not just offensive heights, but defensive heights: every move has both a hurtbox hight and a hitbox height, so you can punish moves of certain heights with other moves that are that height invincible.
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Why is Yamcha everyones favorite DBZ character when he's a nobody who does literally nothing in the entire series and just looks like Goku but with shorter hair?
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Krillin
Future Trunks(preferably long haired jean jacket version)
Mr Popo/Metal Coola/Hercule

In that order but obviously my third slot are all long shots.
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>>381405530
>why is the ultimate underdog anybody's favorite?
Geez, I wonder.
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>>381405414
i wish i was this dedicated
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>>381402247
I think it will. For a 20% build there's a lot people managed to put together. The classic Rock/Paper/Scissors of Attack/Block/Grab is changed a little by replacing normal throws with Dragon Rush; they have universal startup but move forward, can be done in mid-air and in mid-combo, and generally can start full combos (they also seem to be directly connected to the game's Snapback system).

The small moves added to the cast universally to make the game feel more like DBZ really interest me from a meta standpoint. The Pursuit attack is a really neat way to extend air combos and close the distance, especially since it's an alternative against normal projectiles over pushblocking/reflecting. Teleporting behind the opponent for one meter as both an approach and a combo extender has a ton of potential. I also wonder if and when just raw charging meter will be a viable option, given you're in a Counter-Hit state the entire time.

I feel like a lot of the depth will also come from Team Synergy (which excites me because team building in Marvel 3 was a ton of fun) and individual character mechanics/intricacies. Even in the demo some of the characters have interesting little ideas sprinkled into their movesets (Frieza has a getup-only super, a 1-bar assist move from Sorbet, Death Saucers that rebound; Buu has a hit-grab projectile and a super basically designed to be a frame trap). You get the impression that the 6 still have a few more tweaks and additions to their arsenal away from being complete, too; I suspect the online beta being in August is to give the team time to make sure those 6 are 100% gold (barring minor frame data changes before launch) when that goes live.

I think the game will have depth. It'll definitely have a lower skill floor to let casual fans on-board though; the button scheme alone shows that, but it's not a bad thing as long as the ceiling is high. Auto-combos exist but no game with those has ever had them be relevant.
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>>381405530
He didn't do literally nothing.
He has one win against that random invisible guy in the Baba arc
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>>381405530
>Why is Yamcha everyones favorite DBZ character
fuck off yamcha
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>>381405530
>Why is Yamcha everyones favorite DBZ character
That's a fucking stretch
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>>381405604
An underdog has to have higher than a -20% chance of winning.
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>>381405484
Imperfect Cell is actually really great. I can appreciate him inheriting the pride of many of the people he is based on as he became closer to them, and his downfall makes sense as a result. But damn the fucking monster movie Cell was great. Horrifying, hard to track, calculating, manipulative. He was great. I was glad to see him in Xenoverse 2. They even had some interesting side missions where he would show up to see you beating perfect cell and getting pissed of that another timeline's cell already absorbed his androids. Then you have to keep him from absorbing the other cell.
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>>381405520

That's all well and good but the simple fact that it's over the shoulder camera totally negates it as a fighter. 3d "fighters" are not fighters.

Sorry bud.
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>>381405530
Because some people saw Dragon Ball and saw there was more to it than aliens and beam blasts.
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>>381405926
>saw
Pleb. Some people read Dragon Ball, and that's why their favourite character is Piccolo Jr
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>>381404737
>Do you think there's gonna be 4 different version of Goku for no fucking reason?
No, but two versions yes. Reverted Goku and some god form Goku. Teenaged Gohan and adult Gohan.
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>>381388684
Janemba
Vegeta (w/ Moustache)
Gogeta
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>>381406000
Saw and read can be one in the same, friend.
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>>381405868
except all of the actual gameplay takes place in the 2d plane
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>>381405868
So is tekken, DOA, soul calibur, Virtua fighter, and bloody roar all not fighting games?
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>>381406000
My favorite villain is King Piccolo
My favorite character is Piccolo JR though, he was pretty great as a kid and in the tourney.
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Anyone who actually thinks there is going to be two different gokus(outside of POSSIBLY Kid Goku and Namek Goku) and Gohans are fucking delusional.

Teen Gohan is the only Gohan in the game.

Blue haired goku may be a power up but he is definitely not his own slot. Get real.
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>>381405484
I like Freeza's 3rd form, but that one basically never shows up. Even in series it was basically a footnote since he decides to go ahead to final form for no real reason.
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>Arcade mode
>Go up the totem pole of strongest villains
>Final fight is unknown
>Cloaked figure steps up from throne
>King Piccolo
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>>381393085
I hope they can come up with something to make him different from 18.
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>>381406214
>Blue haired goku may be a power up
Nah, we've already seen that regular old SSJ Goku's powerup super is SSJ3.
SSB Goku is almost definitely gonna be his own slot
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>>381406278
>not Son Gohan
pfft
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>>381406298
make him play like super 17 would
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>>381406109
Then why can't you play it locally on the same machine?

Because it's not a 2d plane. The skewed camera ruins any sense of balance and spacing.

>So is tekken, DOA, soul calibur, Virtua fighter, and bloody roar all not fighting games?

That's not what I refer to as a 3d "fighter" I'm specifically referring to the camera and placement of the character. Like former DBZ games and Naruto stuff.
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>>381395986
Imagine a Ranma 1/2 game made by Arcsys
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>>381405697
>>381402247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGAJMNi6ryg
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>>381405859
>Horrifying, hard to track, calculating, manipulative. He was great.
That's why I love him. The guy who voiced him also did an excellent job.
Imperfect Cell also has some of the most quotable dialogue in the series as well.
He's easily my favorite character in the Dragon Ball universe.

Oh and I love this theme too. Really gives off a sinister vibe befitting of his nature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImB0HK16-tQ
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>>381402247
More than Rising Thunder and that was able to get pretty competitive to a decent degree.
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>>381406310
Yes we have already seen that but It doesn't mean there isn't going to be additional power ups with meter burn.

The game has something like 10 possible bars of meter.

They are not making a clone of regular goku. Especially one that will have all the exact same moves.

You might get lucky with a costume select or something.
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>>381406298

I'm kinda hoping they make it like they're the same character, like 2 characters in 1 like Ken and Koromaru in P4AU
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imma firin mah lazer
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>>381406715
Tokusentai never ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY
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>>381398993
This would be the perfect game for based Tapion
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>>381406524
Yeah, shame perfect always shows up. I love Perfect Cell but the other forms were certainly neat.
Or at least the first one, the second one was too short to be notable. But imperfect cell will always have a special place in my heart. When I watched when I was a small baby man, ever since he was introduced I kind of dreaded him showing up, because they clearly established everyone else was gnats compared to him.
And as we know, him showing up certainly changed the way the saga went down. His fight with Piccolo and later 16 are still top tier DBZ.
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>>381388684
Future Trunks
Mystic Gohan
Tien
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>>381403880
There is one Gohan. Buu was split up into two.
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>>381388684
Helles
Vados
Another GoD/Angel
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>>381407084
Oh I love Perfect Cell too, I don't wanna make it sound like I dislike him or anything, he's fucking great.
I just wish that his first form at the very least got some more love. I'd love to see it in DBFZ but I just don't see it happening at all.
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>>381406278
>>381406335
>not Giran
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So would Cell be able to absorb Buu?
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>>381406372
>Because it's not a 2d plane

Except the gameplay is on a 2d plane. You clearly haven't actually played pokken. The gameplay, for 90% of a given match, operates on a true 2d plane, same as Street fighter or KoF or marvel. There's not any sort of Y axis movement, wheras tekken and such still has that.

After enough phase points are racked up, then it does switch to a d gameplay mode, but this only lasts for essentially a single hit before it reverts back to true 2d. The 3d shit isn't an inherent part of the gameplay, it's a specific mechanic of part of the 2d gameplay meant to act as a anti infinite system.

This is why Pokken is best described and is mechanically in line with traditional 2d fighters, not plane based 3d fighters like tekken, and much less arena 3d shit like naruto
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>>381407486
I'd say most likely no.
Cell was designed to absorb the essence of other biological creatures.
Buu and whatever he's made of might be considered incompatible.
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>>381407486
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>>381389259
I feel you, man. I don't actually hate Broly, I'm just under the impression the roster's starting on the small side and if they were gonna go with one of the two (and also Recoome since he surprisingly has a healthy amount of material to work with) my pick would be Nappa. I'd love if there was room for both. Also I had no idea you replied in a different thread, so while you're probably gone, I feel the need to reply 4 hours later just so you know you got a (You)
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What the game really needs is Majin Baby Janemba
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>>381407885
Wasn't that Buu absorbing cell
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>>381408014
>not majin baby masked janemba with a dark dragon ball embedded in his chest making him transform
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We can agree this was the best dbz film right?
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>>381406524
This cell used to give me nightmares.
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17, gotten and vegeta are best team
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>>381408293
I liked Lord Slug better with piccolo and Goku team up
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>>381408293
That's not The World's Strongest.
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>>381408293
>>381408405
Fusion reborn is best
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>>381408293
World's Strongest is easily the best DBZ film, so no we can't agree
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>>381399293
>Just said Bulma with Japanese accent
>Realize her name is actually Bloomer
>Dr. Briefs
>Bra
Fuck me I'm retarded.
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>>381399293
Remember when she had purple hair?
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>>381406375
>it won't be targeting a single generation of dragon ball
maybe now we can stop with all the weird people who are for some reason 100% sure it will only have Z characters
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>>381401705
>Sword Yamcha fucking never
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>>381408568
>>381408293

If History of Trunks counts as a DBZ movie, then you're both not only wrong but retarded.
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>>381408509
my nigga
>most vibrant looking dbz movie
>best villain with the best design
>gogeta
>stardust breaker/soul punisher
>aryan super saiyans
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>>381406310
If he is, it'll be regular Goku with the ability to turn blue as a power up special move, just like Freeza.
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>>381404084
What a cheap one that can walk me through this shit easily?
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>>381408796
Goku is cute! CUTE
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>>381408293
That movie had some of the poorest animation in all of Z, I can't believe they would let something like it in theaters.
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16 getting in is a no-brainer tbqh
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>>381408726
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>>381408509
The fight scenes sucked so this isn't plausible.
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>>381405484
same
first form cell is really quite creepy and I've always enjoyed first form Frieza
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>>381408708
>they make Bulma's hair blue in the anime when it should have been purple
>correctly make Dr Briefs and Trunks purple haired
>Super goes and makes Future Trunks blue for no apparent reason, while kid Trunks is still purple - wat
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>>381392932
>no kid trunks
>maybe goten
More likely that neither are in, but gotenks fusion is in instead, with an intro of the two doing the fusion dance.
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>>381409183
this is the wrongest things i've seen all day

1/3
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>>381409361
2/3
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>>381409394
3/3
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>>381409332
This will almost certainly be it.
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>>381405484
first form cell is best cell

frieza shouldn't have ever had forms imo. he should have just bulked up in his final form.

super buu is my favorite villian though.
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>>381409361
Janemba searching for hiding goku and vegeta didn't make for an entertaining fight.
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>>381409183
>>381409518
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>>381392932
I feel like, despite golden Frieza being a thing already, I think they'll only focus on Z characters for the game, and then later release an expansion (ala Revelator) and label that as Super, with an expanded story mode going into super, along with Super characters.
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>>381400568
like to see a naruto fighting game based on the first series, that or ranma half would be cool
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>>381394861
Arale too. Shits gonna get salty when it comes out.
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>>381409656
I agree that Z characters will be most of the slots, but Beerus is almost certainly taking a slot.
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>>381409361
maybe end of game boss
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>>381409818
Beerus is a Z character
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>any movie characters except for broly
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>>381409919
Beerus is a movie and super character
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>>381409818
That would be cool, I wouldn't mind that.

Also, despite GT being wiped out of existence, I hope SSJ4 makes an appearance in some fashion.
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>>381410020
Nah, you'll be Uub as the GT rep. That way they can half pretend it's not even a GT rep
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>>381400568
I wanna see a ranma 1/2 fighting game
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>>381409985
What was the title of the movie again?
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>>381388684
Kid goku
Super Buu
Satan
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You tell me this isn't the best team you can wish for.
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>>381410020
Super Gogeta with SSJ4 Gogeta as part of his lv 3 move
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Have they said anything about more installs? I find it weird that Frieza's the only character with an install right now, with how huge transformations are in the series in general.

I half-expected the Spark mechanic to turn characters into a different looking character visually for its duration. But that may be unreasonable, because of how much more work that would require.
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>>381410365
No. Bardock have no business being in dragon ball fighterz.

Bandai namco and arc systems are trying to not be a 3d arena fighter with multiple transformations and many characters and focus on a diverse cast of characters each unique in their own way.

Making a different character model per spark would cost too much money.
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yajirobe and a couple saibamen, and hopefully he can eat them when he dies kinda like a senzu bean
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The problem with Dragon Ball fighting games is the huge range of power levels among the characters.
Will I be able to defeat Beerus as Yamcha, for example? How does that work?
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>>381411170
Fighting games don't have power levels
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>>381411170
Meh, just ignore power levels for fighting games. They're not relevant
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>>381411170
>Will I be able to defeat Beerus as Yamcha, for example?
No, because Yamcha isn't getting in
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>>381411170
>How does that work?
By not caring about power levels.
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>>381411170
You know that complaint can be used for nearly every fighting game ever.
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>>381411381
>>381411280
>>381411262
I think he has a point. Dragon Ball is sort of unique in that it sort of basically invented power levels as a concept alongside saint seiya, most other shonen's at least have some degree of tactics or user specific powers.
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>>381411170
Fighting game devs that know what they're doing in these kinds of situations usually find interesting ways to strengthen "weak" characters or making them interesting.

Here's the same dev making a kid with a yoyo work out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ZjviwIlBQ
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>>381409361
>>381409394
>>381409428
Man I'd take Janemba over Broly in DBF anyday.
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>>381411707
Yeah, except the series has since pretty much thrown that shit out the window. Power levels aren't relevant any more.

>hurr how is it possible that Dan could beat Akuma? How does that work?
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>>381406082
Remember that everything past Piccolo Senior is shit and that Toriyama would have gladly stop here if it was not for shonen jump/Toei begging for more.
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>>381406214
Due tout their style/design, it's obvious that both teen and adult/Mystic Gohan will be in.
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>>381400568
I'd kill for a modern Sailor Moon game desu
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>>381410792
Move sets might be incomplete. I expect Goku and Vegeta to get Super Saiyan Blue transformations.

I could see some other characters like Gotenks, Future Trunks, and Vegito having transformations for Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan Rage, and Super Saiyan Blue respectively.
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>>381400685
Bald manlet
+
Bombshell blonde who loves money more than a jew
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NO BARDOCK NO BUY
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>>381408708
>Literrally the only country where nudity is okay
Don't ever change, Japan.
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