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Which one is the second best fallout game?

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Which one is the second best fallout game?
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I actually kinda liked Moira.
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>>381375928
that would be fallout 2, right behind new vegas in my eyes
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>>381376819
Blasphemy
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>>381375928
Fallout 1 > New Vegas > 2 > shit >3.Never played 4.
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>>381375928
New Vegas is 1st, 3 is last

Ave True to Caesar
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New Vegas, obviously.
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1 = 2. There are no other games that qualify as Fallout games.
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2 > 1 > 3 = NV = 4

3D Fallout was a mistake. If you praise New Vegas but disparage 3 or 4 you're a massive hypocrite.
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>>381379625
Autism
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I've enjoyed every Fallout game, but New Vegas is objectively the best of the 3D games.

2 is the best of them all though
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>>381379625

> If you praise New Vegas but disparage 3 or 4 you're a massive hypocrite.

New Vegas had good quest design and pretty damn excellent writing, for the most part anyway. As well as better gun customisation, despite 4's weapon crafting being both integral to the game, and far more fleshed out.

3 had barely any quests, all were mediocre at best, and the writing was hot garbage. It also had poor progression.

4 is one of the worst AAA games ever released. It doesn't even have a working loop, and the writing is even worse than 3. The world sucks shit, as there's pretty much no reason to explore and the settlement mechanics are trash.

Was 3D a good choice for Fallout? Not particularly, but New Vegas proved that it's the quality of the production that could make it work.

Basically, we're never going to get a decent Fallout game ever again, and F1 and F2 were only particularly decent at the time of release. The whole game industry is a mess, products sucks shit nowdays.

>Still haven't seen a thread on /v/ talking about how many current AAA games have broken gameplay loops.
People on /v/ who claim to care about games are lying through their teeth.

You're not cool, and not at all insightful. You should not have even posted.

NV=2>1>3>>>>>>>4
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>>381379625
1 and 2 are great but massively overrated, new vegas beats both in player choice and quest design.
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>>381379625
New Vegas is a good RPG. 4 is a good open world shooter. 3 is just all around terrible.
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fallout 3 because new vegas is the best one
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>>381375928
inb4 some 15 year old says the third game
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Let's just pretend that 3 and 4 never happened, that's what I do
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>>381382348
We need to be sneakier. Like post "Fallout 3: DLC" threads but let the content of the threads "naturally" gravitate towards New Vegas.
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>>381382348
Because it's a recurring general, you faggot.
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>>381375928
3 > NV > 1 > 2 >4
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>>381379625 be careful, new vegas babies cant handle the truth
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>>381384894

Why are mods deleting Fallout: NV threads?

Are they complete newfaggots now?
You cant even post deep sea threads anymore
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>>381384992
and it's worthy of it
>inb4 /vg/
those underage faggots want to waifu post and talk about the utter shit that is 4
new vegas threads are consistent actually stay on the topic of the game
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I like new vegas but jesus you fucks won't stop sucking its dick. go play other games
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>>381384592
>good open world shooter
You mean open world where you then stop at a shooting gallery and shoot stuff before moving on?
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>>381385246
So what? You're game isn't special enough to warrant a general outside of /vg/. Grow the fuck up.
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>>381379625
>if you praise New Vegas but disparage 3 or 4 you're a massive hypocrite
Fuck yourself.
4 was decent for a half playthrough then got stale because LOL YOU CAN MAKE 1 CHARACTER!
at least they gave hand to hand back after removing that shit in skyrim.
actually, no they didn't, they just decided to take away all the skills.
Really fuck you, for comparing 4 to 3 and NV. 3 may not be great but in terms of story and player choice it is leagues ahead of 4
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>>381385725
I thought 4 actually had a thing in the load menu to manage more than one separate save file. Don't quote me I never tried it.
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>>381385246
>and it's worthy of it
According to who, you? It's not worthy of shit, fuck off to /vg/ you entitled faggot
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>>381375928
>tfw never played Fallout 3
I'll just wait 10 years for the remake
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>>381385879
Why don't you go jerk yourself off in another E3 thread, or one of the several threads literally about jerking off that the mods don't seem to give a shit about?

These threads literally looked nothing like general threads and you would know that if you've ever actually been on that board.
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>>381385879
Go look at /fog/ on /vg/ and report back. I'll wait.
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>>381385976
Fallout New Vegas and 4 probably spoiled you by now but there were few better vidya feels than running thru it the first time as a teenager
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>>381386014
>looked nothing like general threads
You start another thread once the last one is archived or deleted, and these threads have persisted for months. That's enough to be a general. Deny it as much as you like, your threads do not belong here.
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It's deserving of constant threads since it's actually video game discussion and not a lol thread, e-celeb circle jerking or cancerous twitter shitposting threads
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>>381386326
The thread's content is irrelevant. A recurring general does not belong on /v/.
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>>381386308
Then can we get a fnv general for only fnv? Seems to clearly deserve one in its own right
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>>381386308
"Look", as in "appearance", not function. Go take a look:
>>>/vg/180389208
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2 > 1 = New Vegas > Dogshit > 4 > 3
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>>381386524
See >>381385974
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>>381386402
>a thread's content is irrelevant
how fucking retarded are you
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>>381386559
3 was worse than new vegas, but honestly it was one of the most fun vidya i played as a teen, and GOTY to boot
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>>381379625
>If you praise New Vegas but disparage 3 or 4 you're a massive hypocrite.
At least play the games first before you make up your opinion.
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anyone that says that NV is better then 3 is brain dead
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>>381386586
Though that said, /fog/ is /supposed/ to be for all Fallout games. But last time I bothered going there, someone asked about NV and was dogpiled on instantly.
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I'm dying for a Fallout 1/2 3D remake. I know it'll never happen. But Isometric shit and the combat makes them so fucking annoying to play even though I like the writing.
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>>381386730
>then
Yes, the order of quality is NV, THEN 3.
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>>381386550
>literally nothing but people talking about fucking deathclaws, paid mods, and fallout 4 (which may as well be a completely different frachise at this point)
wewlad
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As much as I like fallout 4 I think new Vegas is still the best. I recently started 1 as well and am having a good time with it. Just a quick question is the first game actually only 3 quests long?(besides side content)
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>>381386821
I love isometric shit, but the the game is dated compared to other games with the same mechanics. I want to see it remade in Underrail's engine.

>>381386838
>*fucking deathclaws
Important distinction. Also arguing over Nora being bisexual, apparently.
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>>381386832
>than*
i'm not wrong
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>>381386937
Yes but since you don't have an objective marker and the game doesn't guide you straight to your objectives you'll have to explore the wasteland and involve yourself in the other affairs in order to gain the necessary resources and help you need to complete your three main quests.
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So when are the mods gonna start deleting the daily persona/neir/SF/Kojima threads?
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>>381385976
Fallout 4 will get the remake for 3's 10th anniversary. Just like Skyrim did to Oblivion's 10th.
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>>381388648
>Game made on 32 bit engine got remade on 64 bit engine
>Therefore a game made on a 64 bit engine will be remade on the same 64 bit engine
They're already "remaking" it on VR, dummy.
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>>381375928
Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
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I think 1 and 2 were great games and had this organic feel to them. It was as if they had been written by people that played tabletop role playing games and understood how to give life to an universe through wordsmithing. I'm currently playing Underrail and it has the same feeling to it. It's not about the isometric 3D of the turn-based combat, it's about character dialogues with a bit of slang here and there. Characters that don't feel obligated to explain everything to the player as if he's a newborn.

Eh, maybe I'm derailed and this is all just nostalgia.
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>>381385246
So make fucking /nvg/ and realize that /fog/ doesn't talk about NV anymore because they spent 5 years dissecting every part of it and are bored of the same twenty posts of "MUH BEAR" and "MUH BULL."
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>>381392614
no I think the anons will keep making no threads on /v/ got to keep the waifu war cancer out in containment board no is part and parcel with /v/
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>>381389446
And they'll "remake" it again!
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>>381392614
See:
>>381386586

Also take a peek in /fog/, there's a guy who's been being triggered over lesbians and has been bitching about how he's suicidal because of them for the past two hours or so.
>>>/vg/180417474
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>>381387245
Ok cool
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1 > 2 > New Vegas > 3

4 doesn't exist.
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Fallout 2 > New Vegas > 1 > Who gives a shit
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>>381393050
kek holy shit
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>>381393528
No, you don't understand. You've had recurring New Vegas threads persisting for a year, perhaps even longer. Other games, such as Persona 5, get a pass because they were recently released, and are therefore topical.
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>>381393528
/vg/ was created to contain generals, which are recurring threads about a particular game. New Vegas threads lately certainly qualify as generals, so take them to /vg/ where they belong.
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>>381375928
NV >3 > Bubsy3D > 4
never played 1 or 2
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1 >Tactics > 4 > New Vegas > 3 > 2 > Brotherhood of Steel >.
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>>381394101
>NMA still buttblasted that 2 contains a few jokes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NORMIES am I right, fellow NMAutist?
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>>381393841
You cant send me to /vg/ I cant live through that again man. I got a lottery ticket and everything.
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risk of rain threads
Kohima threads
todd posting threads
final fantasy xiv threads
overwatch threads

All these need to be deleted instantly as well
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Mods are now coming into these threads and deleting posts calling out the fact that they're deleting anything to do with NV while letting threads that have literally nothing to do with videogames like >>381386565 slide.
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1 > 2 > NV
NV is handicapped by a shitty Bethesda engine.
3 and Tactics are honorable mentions, since 3 had a few good moments and dlcs.
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>>381394389
Based mods working the New Vegas marks.
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>>381394262
>risk of rain threads
fuck you
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>>381394594
take it to /vg/ faggot
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>>381385976
have a code for xbox if you want it
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NV>=2>1>3
2 would outrank NV if it wasn't so mechanically dated however.
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Why don't people like Veronica?
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>>381394856
Something something Felicity Day.
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>>381394856
Felicia Day
And she's now officially AJ's mom
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>>381394702
>mechanically dated
>Bethesda's horrible FPS RPG is somehow better
You are such a faggot, holy shit.
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>>381394172

A few jokes is different than a spider and a plant playing chess against...

Aw...who am I kidding? 2 was more forgivable than 3 because 3 had the Mothership Zeta DLC...so fucking stupid.
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>>381394856
>lesbian (though this is newer players mostly)
>voiced by Felicia Day (with the game released at the height of her popularity)
>lolsorandumb XD writing
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>>381394984
Yes, it is better. 3 and NV are super jank but they're still above the controls of 2 and 1.
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>>381395076
>smoothly functioning 2D isometric is worse than janky first person 3D
Bait harder, faget.
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>>381394856
She can't shut the fuck up.
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>>381395076
gunplay =/= gameplay you fucking retard
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>>381395272
>>smoothly functioning
Take off your nostalgia goggles. The controls are anything BUT smooth. Simple actions take more time than they should, and that is not smooth.
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>Launch new vegas.
>It keeps freezing on while loading up.
>Spend all day trying to figure out what's causing it.
>Disable YUP plugins.
>Works perfectly fine.

wtf. Am I going to have to use mission mojave now or something? I have unofficial patch plus as well.
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>>381395076
I hate the types of games 3 and NV are, but yeah they're so much more playable than 1 and 2.

>>381391665
Underrail is great, part of the story is helped by the mechanics, in a way at least, since there's more time to focus on it. It was all made by one guy apparently, aside from the music. Not sure about the graphics.

>>381395272
>smoothly functioning
>first person
Play Underrail or something, the old Fallout games are hard to go back to just based on how they play. And remember that you can switch between first and third person for the others.
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>>381395480
>And remember that you can switch between first and third person for the others.
Next level bait, nobody plays those games in third person.
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>>381385859
It doesnt even matter because no level cap = all builds end with all skills max special
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>>381395032
>lolsorandum dialogue
>mfw I found out that Veronica is supposed to be in her 30s and she talks like that
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>>381395326
I'm talking about the controls in general, not just gunplay.
And on the subject, gunplay is one of the few gameplay aspects I wouldn't say is worse than 3/NV because it uses an entirely different, but solid, system.
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>>381395620
>implying anyone would ever play that long
It would take some extreme autism to max everything in that game.
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>>381395432
>mission mojave
It's shit and breaks a compatibility with a ton of mods.
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>>381379625
cRPGs are bad and you should feel bad for liking modern Obsidian games using antiquated methods of creating video games.
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>>381395736
other than big iron, new vegas radio fucking sucked.
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>>381395646
>Veronica is supposed to be in her 30s
wait, what?
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>>381395913
>other than the worst song, this radio sucked
Wat.
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>>381395912
>cRPGs are bad
you have to be 18 to post here
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>>381393841
>>381393873
it depends
if it's getting to the point where it's cluttering the board, where the threads are being remade as soon as they archive, or they're being created on a regular schedule (like one day a week every week, constantly up for the entire night), they should be on /vg/. iirc there's already a /fog/ so i don't see why it can't just move there, although i do really like fonv threads.
imo it might help to have a sticky with a list of threads that need to be moved to /vg/ if that's the case so people don't just keep recreating them and complaining when they get deleted, but that's just me.
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I think a majority of people who place 1above new vegas have never played 1.
theres like 7 locations and most locations only have 1 or 2 quests. The quests and script doesn't mesh together very dynamically at all. You cant customize your characters sprite.

the only vastly superior systems in my opinion is the 'big map' travel system and the caravan stuff. Much superior to fast travelling and actually makes travelling 'an event' that you can make money off and a challenge
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>>381396062
I'm a semi-regular on /fog/ for mod news and shit, nobody there wants to talk about NV because it's all been said before and immediately degenerates into shitposting about which faction is "objectively" the best, if they don't skip immediately to bear v. bull chimpouts.
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>>381395979
My bad, I just checked and she's 27. Dunno why I thought she was older
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>>381395913
It grows on you. Big Iron is the best song, though.
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Second best is 1, after 2. NV is a close third and could easily be the second on a good game. I actually like 1 because it's so short, it's easy and fun to try new characters and it starts really fast compared to 2. It also has the most coherent world of the series.

3 is far behind the rest. The world is just incredibly bland and either locations have no character or have a really dumb character. It just feels like a "generic" Fallout game, if that's possible. I don't understand why some people praise its atmosphere, the atmosphere sucks because the game world doesn't feel like a real place. The difference between 3 and NV is huge.
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>>381395780
Well fuck. Guess I'm going to have to try a older version then. If that doesn't work then I'll just have to fucking deal with no bug fixes.
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>>381396235
>27
as if that makes it any better or acceptable
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>>381396062
They can't, because the regulars of these threads are incapable of sharing a room with someone with an opinion conflicting with the hive mind.
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>>381396229
idk, then. if there's enough interest for a dedicated /fonv/ general, maybe that could work, but i don't think there is.
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>>381396139
plus the 3d games handle the skill system alot better than fallout 1; most skills don't do anything useful or anything at all 'passively'; and you have to actively 'use' your skills individually. And even then most are entirely useless

fallout 1 has no repair or durability system
like 3 pairs of armour

the 3d games improved on so much aspects compared to 1.
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>>381395620
>skills
Anon, I...
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>>381396414
They tried a "Classic Fallout General" which was 1, 7 & NV. It died, and so the people came here.
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>>381396327
Try to fiddle with mod order. I have both YUP and UP+ and they work.
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Its obvious that 2 is best.

2 > 1 > 3 >>>>>> all the rest of the shit since
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>>381396327
are you using loot? use loot if you don't use loot.
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>>381395979
Yep.

Arcade is 35.
Cass is 37.
Boone is 26.
ED-E is 6.
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>>381380848
> 3's quests were mediocre at best
> half of NV quests are 'run/fast travel to point a, talk to person, fast travel back, done'
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>>381396229
If /vg/ can have two Runescape generals, I don't see why there can't be two Fallout generals.
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NV>1>2>3>4
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>>381396663
>ED-E is 6
how many is that in robot years, though
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>>381396751
It was attempted, the second /cfog/ couldn't sustain itself.
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>>381396553
I'll try again tomorrow but it's definitely yup causing it.

Also you're using redesigned 3? When I asked /v/ recommended 2 to me.
>>381396625
I have. Never had any problems with it till now, save having to manually switch around the plugins for authentic burned man and Joshua companion mod around a bit.
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>>381396663
>Cass is 37.
Now I know where my MILF fetish came from.
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>>381396909
That sounds like a problem of the regulars.
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>>381397034
Guess we're just going to keep having them on /v/ then
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>>381377378
Now that's an opinion I agree with
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>>381397034
The quality of /fog/ went up when the argumentative NVfags went to /cfog/ and then here when it died, and I assume the quality of NV discussion went up because they didn't spend all their time crying that people were discussing 4.
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1 has some very atmospheric places and the soundtrack can be absolutely sick
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>>381396971
Didn't read what /v/ has to say about NVR3, but I'm using it, yes. Works alright with FCO2 and FCO3 on top of FCO2, so pretty much all NPCs that NVR didn't change are changed now.
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>>381396663
And Raul is 234
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>>381377378
this tbqh
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>>381397078
Or people could do a better job of keeping threads alive.
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>>381397180
>tfw this one image does more to excite you than the entirety of Wasteland 2
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE!
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>>381397180
The soundtrack is probably the main reason it gets so much praise

Try playing the game without its soundtrack
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>>381397296
I'll say it again if new Vegas threads are going to be deleted every other recurring thread about a specific game or franchise needs to be deleted also
>risk of rain threads
>mgs/kojima threads
>overwatch threads
>ffiv threads
>persona threads
Etc
all need to go in the trash
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>>381397531
Yes, only threads on /v/ should be Twitter threads, e-Celeb threads and memes.
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>>381394172
yeah, it has nothing to do with balancing encounters/item progression/character progression/pacing/tone, it's just having one dated pop culture reference after another shoved in your face and used as an excuse to not put effort into writing
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>>381397614
that should go without saying
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>>381397216
Neat.

/v/ seems to dislike 3 due to the female corpses in nipton implied to have been raped and the female slaves at the fort from my understanding.
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>>381397667
them being deleted that is
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>>381397531
Or maybe these kinds of threads belong in /vg/ in fallout generals, where you can talk about all of fallout. Like great fallouts like fallout 4.

Bounty hunter todd here, and looks like the janitors need extra help fighting these new vegas criminals.
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>>381375928
I like New Vegas more, but it's basically a glorified FO3 mod so I can't say it's a better game, so New Vegas.
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>>381396898
I... Don't actually know. Or how to work it out.
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>>381397310
W2 was a fucking travesty. Some of the most pitifully boring tRPG combat I've seen in my life. The RP was basically nonexistent thanks to the freeform party and quests were invariably a clusterfuck of characters and locales I didn't give a shit about.
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>>381397531
Persona 5 is a relatively recent title.
Death Stranding and Metal Gear Survive are upcoming titles.
Overwatch and FFXIV both receive content updates.

Risk of Rain is the only one about an old, pre-existing game with no new content, though even that could technically make an argument of some sort given that a sequel is in development.
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>>381375928
I really want Bethesda to realize how much they could cash in on a New Vegas remake in the FO4 engine.

Or just a honest-to-god identical-to-the-nth-degree remake in a brand new engine. If there was definitive proof that it was 100% the same game but with an overhauled engine, I'd preorder that shit in a heartbeat.

Otherwise, if they fucked it up and gave me that 4 option dialogue bullshit, I'd drive to Todds house and cram my dick down his throat as i shit on his chest.
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>>381398154
They'd probably make more cash on a fallout 3 remake, sadly.
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>>381398154
>Bethesda ever admitting they were outdone by re releasing new vegas
never ever
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>>381398154
Or just make a new game with the new engine but using the elements from Fallout NV that were better, like better dialogue and perks?
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>>381398154
>New Vegas' writing and weapon balance with Fo4's movement physics and overall PA mechanics (ignoring fusion cores)
>with an open Strip and Freeside, considerably better grafix/aesthetics, and better performance all around
i'd murder todd and wear his skin to accomplish this tbqh
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>>381395612
I get simulator sickness when I play in 1st person, I actually physically cannot and was about to uninstall the game for good before I found out you could switch to 3rd.

>>381397738
The female slaves at the fort break immersion and are just obnoxious with the loud sobbing when there's zero reason for "captures" or unbroken slaves to be in the middle of a MILITARY FORT. NVR is also a pain to get to work, required someone else to make a bug fix patch, and even then some people have problems getting all the faces to show up.

Personally I use a face texture with NVCE, doesn't look too bad, doesn't fuck with assets or races, and isn't jarring when you come across an NPC that hasn't been edited.
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Does anyone even know how to play caravan
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>>381387068
Fallout 1/2 with Underrail's more modern sensibilities would be fantastic.
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>>381398782
Do you even really get much from it in game? It seemed kinda pointless to me. Honestly, a mod that takes the playing cards out of the games so they don't just clog up your inventory could be nice.
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>>381398782
I knew how to play a few years ago, destroyed all NPCs who agreed to play it with me. But when I tried to replay NV few days ago, I realized that I've completely forgot all of the rules.
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Fallout 3 is great regardless of what contrarian faggots on /v/ say. Certainly not perfect, not even close, but still great.

Fallout: New Vegas is fantastic and probably the best RPG in the last decade. Great writing, weapons, dialogue, player choice, etc. Tons of different playstyles are possible, such as cowboy, grunt, etc within the same skill. Basically Fallout 3 but better in almost every way.

Fallout 4 is casualized trash. I can't even begin to explain how mediocre and dumbed-down this game is. Literally Skyrim with guns, it even has the same lockpicking system, the same melee animations and fucking enchantments as well (all those "legendary" prefixes are basically enchantments, if you didn't realize). Boring, simple quests, terrible dialogue, terrible loot, shit weapon pool. Fallout 3 plays like the most complex RPG ever by comparison.

I've never played Fallout 1 or 2 and I won't because isometric games are archaic, but I've heard good things.

NV > 3 >>> 4
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>>381398378
>>381398439
Probably right on both counts. If they did make a remake of 3, I hope that would get more people to voice a desire for a remake of FNV.

While I really really enjoy FNV for so many things, I'd never leave the game alone if it were as big and detailed as 4, provided they retain the level of things you can do in the world in FNV, or just expand on it.

Last thing I want is a beautiful open environment with fuck-all to do or see.
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>>381398992
It's by far the most reliable way to earn a shitton of caps without needing a LCK build.
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>>381398782
It's surprisingly easy once you take a couple minutes to read up on it. I'd definitely recommend playing it in atleast one game, doesn't give you much money wise but it adds to the atmosphere playing with random people wherever you go
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I like Fallout 1 and 2 but i honestly believe it's too RNG based, you literally have to savescum to get past certain parts.

It's seen specially in Fallout 2 with all the unfair special encounters like the one that makes you appear in the middle of a fight against the remnants of the master's army. It's also seen with many of the raider enemies in the game who carry burst weapons that can instakill you if they get lucky.

Fallout 3 is good but only if you haven't played New Vegas, every time i try to play it after that it just feels bland. Also for some reason i have to tweak Fallout 3 so it doesn't crash constantly while New Vegas always works fine.

I haven't played Fallout 4 but from what I've seen it's shit.
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>>381399821
Fallout 3 is stable with Tale of Two Wastelands, but its not worth it because the game is bland as fuck and is basically only decent in Point Lookout.
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So /v/, now that the dust has settled, what's the consensus about FO2?
Is FO2 plot/writing and quest design better or worse than the original title?
Did the lack of seriousness muddled or killed what FO was about originally despite having more content?

Should new fallout be more serious and grounded or it should just tone WAY down the lolsorandum bull?

Discuss.

Another FO1 vs FO2 comparison
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>>381399279
>isometric games are archaic
Your decision, but your loss. I've heard people try to claim that turn based games are archaic though, so there's that.

>>381398932
I'd kill to play that. Though Tchort is already basically the Master. They're both different personally, but they've both got cults and such too...
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>>381400345
Was there really that much lolsorandom in the story itself? Aside from some pop culture references in the dialogue and the rare random encounters. People point at the intelligent deathclaws but I personally liked them and how they were used, it's just a shame there was such a stupid timed condition to saving them.
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>>381400439
It's basically the same as Runescape. I can;t play that shit when I've played it in 3D for thousands of hours.

>inb4 underage
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>>381377378
Don't even bother with 4. It makes 3 look like 1. The only good thing was the new power armor mechanics, and even they screwed the pooch on that one by giving it to you in the second quest and removing training.
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>>381399821
Check out some ironman runs to get ideas for how not to get fucked over too badly in 2.
Pretty much your best bet is to invest in bonus move, have a shitton of HP and actual luck, lock all the doors and disable all the traps you find for exp, and pour points into Outdoorsman. The life detector thingy you can get in Vault City gives +25% to Outdoorsman which helps out immensely with avoiding faggots.
Some dude beat it with Big Guns and a flamer on the hardest difficulties, for what it's worth.
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>>381400345
I like Fo1 much more because most of the locations build on the lore quite a bit.

The mini-narratives littered about in Fo2 didn't really appeal to me.

Of course, Fo2 played better but this is how i felt about the earlier games.
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>>381400710
I always find ridiculous how a community that came out of a vault, and led by the Vault Dweller no less, became a bunch of spirit-worshipping savages in literally 1 generation while all around you you see all these communities doing okay with far less than what Arroyo had.
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>>381395741
Try again
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>>381400813
Nah I get you, you get used to something and everything else looks weird. Tried to go back to play Pokemon Red again around Emerald, shit hurt my eyes.

>>381400943
I got fucked over towards the end of 1 because the red forcefields glitched and only disabled for a single frame. Shit sucks when the game finds a new way to fuck you over.
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>>381401004
>I always find ridiculous how a community that came out of a vault, and led by the Vault Dweller no less, became a bunch of spirit-worshipping savages

Wait, my lore is rusty... did VD actually lead part of that community to the wasteland himself? I always thought that he just settled with tribals after his exile.
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>>381397531
Risk of rain threads is meant for mming on the spot, not discussion, and tends to only pop up after work hours. They're meant to crop up, then die out. They didnt even exist during e3
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>>381400943
>Some dude beat it with Big Guns and a flamer on the hardest difficulties, for what it's worth.
Damn. There is so much to cover in that game. You can easily lock yourself out of certain solutions if you don't have the appropriate skills or certain stats. I never bothered much with Outdoorsman and it literally made me escape after many tries dying in that Bishop casino just to get that map for the raiders quest.
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>>381401198
Thankfully 1's reduced length and better job at nudging you towards the next location means it isn't quite as harsh as 2 if you get fucked in the endgame. First time through on a pure small guns guy, I was frantically looking for something better than the .223 pistol since it wasn't doing shit outside of crits to super muties thanks to fast shot. Then there was being taken to Lou and getting stuck behind forcefields, period.
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>>381401373
From what i know after the Vault Dweller is exiled, some faction in the Vault gets angry at the Overseer because of it and leaves too, they join the VD and together they from Arroyo.
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>>381400943
>Some dude beat it with Big Guns and a flamer on the hardest difficulties

I feel like this would be fun, but also like I would get crit and die even with 10 end.
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>>381401638
If you have good stats for fugging Mrs. Bishop you can talk to her in her sleep and she gives you the code to the safe
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>>381402040
Actually tried that. There are three safes in that level, she only gives you one code and it's for a safe that has unimportant stuff. The one that has the map and the holodisk is even trapped. I didn't care for traps either so i couldn't disable it.

In the end the thing exploded and a guard went to investigate. I had to kill everyone in the second and third floor just to escape. There were way too many in the first floor to kill so i had to run away there.

It was fun to think how Mrs. Bishop would react when she awoke and found the place littered with bodies. Would be quite the reaction.
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>>381402356
Just run to the corner while the guard runs up. He won't see you.
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>>381399821
just run away dude
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/v/ what do you think of when you look at the images here and at >>381397180

my reaction now is so caught up in the atmosphere, the music, the sheer experience of the glow that i'd love to see it from a new perspective
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>>381403254
anus clenched thinking about all dem rads and somehow fucking up the rad-x doses
desire for dat power armor and anger at having to leave some juicy loot behind in exchange for cool shit like the plasma rifle
boner for the music
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NV > 2 > 3 > 1 > 4

this is objectively the correct order
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kill yourself
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>desperately want to get rid of NV's orange tint
>Fellout makes nights too fucking dark
>Clarity makes interiors too fucking dark
>RWL has weather shit I don't give a damn about
Christ, there's no winning with this shit
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>4 was bad
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4 doesn't feel nearly as floaty and bullshit like NV or 3, i think it was better than both honestly.

didn't like the voiced character and limited dialogue, but the better gunplay, setting and characters just means it's a superior game
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>>381403720
Clarity but then ILO overwriting it? Though that does make things darker on its own, doesn't it?

If you like how RWL looks, just get RWL instead of RWLE?
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I don't hate her anymore
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How many people placing 1 and 2 above everything else have actually played them?
The games are probably older than half of this board.
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>>381404183
Explain your reasoning in detail.
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>>381404184
~200 hours in both, probably half that as far as character planning and analysis goes.
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>>381375928
Fallout 3 and 4 aren't part of the series because they have little do with the world and have too many inconsistencies with the source material.
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>>381404217
Felicia recently did something that made me miss my mom.
I'd say more but it's GR15. Look it up
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>>381379625
Fallout has never really been great for its gameplay in a mechanical/skill based sense, you play Fallout for the deep writing and the feeling of being immersed in a living world. In that sense, FO2 and NV are the same thing just from different player perspectives.
FO3 and 4 on the other hand largely fail from the standpoint of writing and immersion.
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>>381404184
Yeah, because games can't be played after they were released. I'm only 4 years younger than the first Fallout game, but played it for the first time at the start of 2015, and went through (almost) all of the games in order before 4 was announced.

>>381404363
So did Bethesda mistake Vault-Tec and West Tek, or do that on purpose?
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>>381404426
Then explain why 4 felt much more immersive than the games before it.
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>>381404184
i played them without the nostalgia goggles you old fags have, and they're not even close to being as enjoyable as NV or 3, nor is the writing as good
anyone without their head up their ass should be able to tell that
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This is gonna trigger some kiddies but this is legitimately my opinion.

3 > 4 > New vegas. 1 and 2, never played.

Really really didnt like new vegas. Didnt feel like a 'fallout' game at all. Its too up beat and happy. I dont like the western theme. Honestly its boring and ugly as shit too.

But this is just my opinion :)

Doing my 4th play thru of FO4 atm, loving every minute still :).

May replay FO3 again too.

New vegas just sits there gathering dust.
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>>381404414
Precursory glance of the board that shall not be named didn't reveal much, though I'd like to keep exposure to a minimum. Could you try broad, general terms that won't attract the son of gold?
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>>381404549
>felt
it's almost like that's your own experience and it doesn't apply to anyone but you
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>>381404426
Really I played them because I like cRPGs and RPGs in general. I know it will never happen because of Todd and his fagboi Pete Hines, but if obsidian where ever able to make a fallout game along the lines of what larian has done with divinity and the structure of 1,2, nv, It would probably be the best fallout game ever made
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>>381404572
>Didnt feel like a 'fallout' game at all.

In that case neither did 3 or 4.
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>>381395913
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>>381404572
if i were to become a dictator i would round up any fucking degenerate that claims 3 was better than NV and gas them and their families.

it's not jews, niggers or faggots that are the filth of society, it's your kind
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>>381404572
0/10
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>>381404572
>people will respond to this
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>>381404572
That's your opinion and that's fine, but can you say it doesn't feel like a Fallout game when you've never played the originals? Bethesda put the bomb front and center in the culture of the games, when it was ancient history only mentioned in passing. 4 especially doesn't have any focus on the world actually being rebuilt, because the east coast was fucked up badly by Bethesda so no one could make any progress in the 200 years.
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>>381404578
She voiced someone who looked like my mom, who died several years ago from complications resulting from breast cancer.
She was the Apple mom
And it just happened to be the best episode of the season thus far

That's all I can say.
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>>381404916
Sorry for dragging that up.
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>>381404572
>trigger some kiddies
>has never played 1 and 2
>new vegas didn't feel like a fallout game at all
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>>381404765
hey man thats just my opinion.

theres no such thing as a right or wrong opinion! :)

>>381404841

when i say 'a fallout game' i mean comparing it back to fallout 3, as that was by far my favorite fallout game.

new vegas and 4 i compare to 3, and since 1 and 2 aren't 3d / open world, i cant compare them to 3.
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>>381405234
>since 1 and 2 aren't 3d / open world, i cant compare them to 3
I mean, you got a point, but you can still compare the tone and atmosphere and writing.
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>>381405234
trying to hard
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>>381379625
take your 10 AGI aim for the eyes simulator back to NMA
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>>381405234
>:)
don't use ":)" if you want your bait to be convincing, faggot, this shit's like page 1 in "being a dicksucking faggot for dummies"
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>>381405582
*critically hits you in the groin for 200 damage, knocking the stuffing out of you*
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>>381384779
This desu
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>>381405452
>>381405739
thats the whole thing, it isn't bait.

never played 1 and 2. fact.

i enjoyed 3 and 4 over new vegas, fact.

as i said, you virgins were going to get upset, i was right.
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>>381397220
Who's the 23 yr old far left? Also, being 19, fucking older women is my fetish... too bad Cass is an insufferable drunk that tries too hard to be tough.
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>>381405902
>I-I-It isn't bait guise I swear
>Haha got you good though xDD
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>>381405902
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>>381375928
Fallout Tactics, because the first one is the best.
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>>381406015
You are going to fuck that drunken cowgirl with your barely not-underageb& ass and you are going to like it.
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>>381405049
Don't be. Sometimes, you need to have feels. It's all part of being human.

>>381406015
No clue. I recognize Arcade, Cass and the rest. I've never seen that guy before.
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>>381406069
>>381406162

I didn't 'get' anyone. I wasn't trying to 'get' anyone. No one was 'got good'.

I simply said how i felt about the fallout games, and people responded accordingly.

No one is pretending to be retarded either. That is genuinely my opinion on the fallout games.

Am I not allowed to have a different opinion without being called a retard or a 'le troll xD'?

Grow the fuck up.
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>>381405902
Unrelated, but I still can't believe fo4 doesn't have good waifu technology yet.
Every single waifu is confined to looking like a milf (at best) no matter what you do
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FO4 is better than any of these lame titles. Only autists will disagree.
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>>381406354
>she's almost twice my age
>she's a ginger
It is here that the boner is created
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>>381406015
It's the artists courier
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>>381406490
The only good reply in this entire thread.

Yep I 100% agree, compared to Skyrim, the waifus in that game are dogshit. All have massive fucking ugly foreheads and all of their faces follow the same pattern.

Bodies and skin textures are rookie tier shit.

It's a shame.
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Anyone who honestly thinks that the Fallout 1 is the best game of the series has some major nostalgia goggles on and haven't actually played it in last 10 years.
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>Going in to kill Benny in his casino, in front of all his guard with bras knuckles
>Johnny Guitar starts
Pure kino
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>>381406443
alright man have fun with your shit taste
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>>381406490
What's wrong with that?
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>Try out DUST for the first time
>it's fucking awful
I'm glad that the author admitted that he needed to use godmode in some areas to complete his own fucking mod and instead of tweaking it just released it as is.
>buff tunnelers then scatter them everywhere
>create "cloud victims" which are enemies that have extremely fast rate of self-healing and can use weapons, then fill the casinos with them
>change a majority of the perks to have downsides for some reason, but then don't edit perks like hoarder to fit in with the game (Hoarder requires you to have at least 160 lbs on you or you get -1 to all SPECIAL stats, but the new maximum weight you can carry is like 70 lbs with max strength)
>Make nearly every NPC hostile to you, then put in a mechanic that causes you to lose sanity if you kill them, then never tell the player how much sanity they have/can lose before they go insane, then make it so once you do pass the invisible line you lose 3 INT and 3 CHR with no way of regaining sanity
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>>381406645
>the artist has a muscle girl fetish
either that or Cass is a mutant
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>>381406751
Literally nothing waifufags are just pure cancer
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>>381406748
As i said earlier:

"hey man thats just my opinion.

theres no such thing as a right or wrong opinion! :)"
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>>381406443
Why did you rate games you never played though? You probably didn't play Tactics either, right?
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>>381406763
Honestly, most mods that try to make the game harder just make it tedious as fuck, slow as fuck, or just plain bullshit.
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>>381406991
you are getting rightfully mocked for your shitty opinions, not every opinion is worth a fuck and not every opinion deserves respect.
i'm not gonna look at some commie cunt spouting his bullshit opinions and respect them, i'm gonna call them on their horseshit.
same thing applies here.
if you can't handle the criticism then fuck off
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>>381406697
If you want some keks go look at people's presets on the nexus trying to make something other than a middle aged woman
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Characters only you thought were cute
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>>381407750
Red Lucy is best grill btw
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>>381407150
Yeah, I'm just going back to the normal game but with RWD, though I'm trying to remember there was another damage mod similar to RWD that I liked more, it was like BLOOD or something? I dunno, can't find it right now
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>>381407857
i masturbated to her multiple times
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>>381407907
BLEED
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61141/?
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>>381407750
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>>381407975
My man, thanks dude.
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someone help
ive got the holodisk from the glow but cabbot just keeps telling me to fuck off and i have no other dialog options with him
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>>381407750
I wonder why she has that autistic stare, she's the only character I've seen that does that
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>>381408213
whats your intelligence?
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>>381408459
4
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>>381408619
The INT requirement is 3, so I'm not sure what could be causing it. He just says go away? Did you do anything before-hand that pissed him off? Been a while since I played 1.
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>>381396687
You're welcome to walk from every point for 10 minutes but why be retarded?
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>>381408807
I think I asked him to tell me about the brotherhood one two many times; at first he says its classified and then he just starts yelling at you
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Hey real quick, does anyone know if in vanilla NV head DT is kept seperate from body DT? If it isn't anyone know of a mod that fixes that?
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>>381385350
yeah dude. If you mod New Vegas, it becomes a different game entirely.
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I ran out of things to kill in NV
any mods that offers new missions, new enemies, more enemies or just more things to kill and do
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Does anyone have a list of essential mods/content to get?

I only have played the game on ps4 till now.

Also luck is the best stat in the game.
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>>381409562
the assassin questline mod is really fun
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>>381407937
Me too
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About to replay NV properly after several years, should I download any mods or just go vanilla?
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>>381410503
at most I would recommend the bare bones basics
jsawyer ultimate
YUP
NVAC
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>>381410503
modded new vegas is way way way better
if you've already completed it before just go crazy
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New vegas was boring
This is the only place on the internet that actually thinks it's much better than 3
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>>381410902
then leave
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>>381408938
Kill them all and claim the power armor that is rightfully yours.
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>>381411153
i wont have pa training though; plus can you even loot it
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>>381411153
plus my anime girl character would never do that
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PLEASE redpill me on NV. To me, it's an ugly, buggy mess of a game with terrible combat. Sure the RPG mechanics are better than FO3, but that's not really saying much at all.
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>>381386937
Worst thing about F4 is Bethesda clearly learned NOTHING from New Vegas. Both what not to do, but more importantly how to bring back more RPG elements that are so characteristic of Fallout. Then again Bethesda clearly resents the fact they're making roleplaying games in general and would much rather just make action or FPS with some RPG elements in there.
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>>381376668
Same. I did every single one of her quests, bought the house in the same town, everything. No regrets.

I can definitely see the flaws of the overall game though.
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>>381411465
>would much rather just make action or FPS with some RPG elements in there
Then they should fucking drop their retarded game engine if they want to do that.

And sell the rights to the RPG's to people who knows what to do with it .
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>>381411205
>2D Fallouts
>pa training
I'll give you credit for trying something new, though
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>>381375928
lol is that even a question

>fifty shades of brown with a story revolving around finding your dada and helping people get WATER
vs
>cool game with a giant open world, story about finding and killing the fucker who shot you and stole your stuff
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>>381411691
lol sorry
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>>381375928
neither.
>>381376668
moira and her quests was the best thing about fo3. not saying much but still.
>>381377378
you didn't miss much, it's one of the few games i have stopped playing.
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>>381411465
Bethesda would much rather just print money without doing jack shit as evidenced by their traditional laziness and lack of effort. They fucking S T I L L haven't hired an actual animator since the need for one arisen 15 years ago, in 2002 for Morrowind.
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>>381411702
>fifty shades of brown
It wasn't that brown. There was a good amount of teal in there. It wouldn't have been better had we played as Liam's character.
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>>381411312
Your first impression about the game is hardly suprising. It was already buggy, and lacking as far as the graphics go on release, though the latter comes from mainly the engine.

The game is something like a cult classic, you have to trudge through some shit before truly enjoying it. Overall it has a more coherrent world building, storyline, and characters than FO3.
Still, you need at the very least half a dozen mods to make the game acceptable.
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>>381411652

That is not how corporations work. They'd rather take those IP's to the grave with them then allow anyone else to make a bit of profit off them.
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>>381411886
Why pay a professional when you can have an intern do it?
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>>381411986
I know. But it grates me everytime games gets dragged into the abyss. Greedy fuck no longer want some money or more money, they want all the monies.

Though keeping Gamebryo is detrimental to Bethesda in the long run.
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>>381411652
>And sell the rights to the RPG's to people who knows what to do with it.
TES VI will just be the Creation Kit and the license to make a TES game with assets from Skyrim. Bethesda retains full ownership of anything you create and sells everyone's creations at full price.
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>>381375928
2>1>New Vegas>4>3

4 isn't RPG but at least it is fun to play
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>>381409562
New territories, enemies, items:
>A world of pain
New quests:
>Someguy series
hold your ground type of endless "quest" with endless waves of enemies
>checkpoint charlie
simply more enemies
>mo monster mod
>increased wasteland spawns
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>>381412165
Them sponsoring people who wants to make shit with the creation engine is not that bad of a thing.

But those people needs to be payed or supported fairly and they should setup guidelines, and make sure the contents are at least DLC worthy. Heck the content doesn't even need to be TES or Fo4, they should encourage people to make stand alone modules, since shitty as their engine is on some aspects, mod support is its main strength.

Release it as a collection pack as to showcase their engine, and creator support.
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It's good to think of Fallout 3 like it's a spinoff (because it basically is).
Fallout 4 isn't even good on its own.
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>>381411312
Don't listen to shills
The game is ugly, boring and broken
Not worth it, unless you want to become one of these "cult members">>381411940
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>>381412336
>simply more enemies
>A world of pain
>increased wasteland spawns
In my experience this kind of mods can be detrimental if you actually want to play the game. Running them at the same time chokes the wasteland full of hostiles that ruins a lot of things. Can't go two steps without some fuck shooting you, and you character would get over-leveled.
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>>381411312
Stop playing it on a console you massive fucking faggot
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>>381412675
>don't expand your horizons or try to have fun anon
>be a luddite like me
>if you do play the game please refrain from posting why you like it cause it annoys me
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>>381412757
>waste your time on a shit game anon and convince yourself it's good
>don't go play better games
>also anyone not sharing my shill opinion triggers me, so if you don't end up liking it anon, please don't post
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>>381412890
>its broken even though it isn't
>and no, no matter what you think its what i think that matters
>play the games that i like not that
>don't enjoy shit without my permission
>even though i don't like a game i'd go to a thread about it, so i can tell people i don't like what they like
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>>381412675
>ugly
definitely
>broken
right again
>boring
And that's where you're wrong, because despite NV's issues which are greatly fixed with one of the many bug fix mods like Mission Mojave it's still a fun and great RPG.
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>>381413134
probably likes fo3

what a faggot
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>>381413101
Stop being upset at opinions fag
I'm not reading your drible, get over yourself
>>381413134
Sorry that I don't like bland games
If it's so fun name 5 memorable quests from it
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>>381412890
>people are talking about a game I don't like in a thread for that game
>better go into it and call them shills
People might take your opinion more seriously of you didn't act like such a blatant fucking retard.
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>>381413289
What people? You're the only one talking to me
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>>381413236
Fallout 3 isn't a good RPG, so no.

>>381413274
Beyond the Beef
Come Fly With Me
G.I. Blues
Pimping for the Atomic Wrangler
Raiding Black Mountain to rescue Raul
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>>381413474
I only remember 3 of those and I played the game 3 times
Also Come fly with me is a garbage fetch quest
>>381413474
>Fallout 3 isn't a good RPG, so no.
Neither is new vegas but that won't stop you from shilling it day and night
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>>381413578
dude anecdotes lmao
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>>381413274
>If it's so fun name 5 memorable quests from it
Ring-a-ding-ding!
Still in the Dark
Heartache by the Number
The Omerta quest where you work with Cachino
Talent Pool
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>>381413274
Easy.
1) the noir-style quest about the casino with cannibals running it
2) the quest where you first gain access to the brotherhood (there's about a dozen ways it can go based on several different factors)
3) the quest involving assassinating/protecting president Kimball
4) all of the companion quests are interesting and flesh out those characters greatly
5) the quest line where you work with the kings/ncr

I didn't even mention the dlcs which have some of the best quests. Besides, I know me naming these doesn't matter anyway because you're going to toss out some half assed arbitrary excuse about why the ones I listed don't count.
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>>381413578
Which 2 do you not remember because all are fairly significant unless you just completely ignored them. The ending to Come Fly With Me is a memorable finisher and the quest directly ties with Novac's ending. There's also
>Finding the Spy attempting to plant a bomb on the New Vegas Monorail
>Finding the research data from Vault 22 then leveling the entire place
>The entire Vault 11 quest
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>>381413347
Lmao that was the first time I responded to you you fucking dip. Feel free to quote me along with the posts of the first guy you were talking to so I can screenshot it to prove to you that more than one person thinks you're acting like a retard.
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>>381413787
Talent pool is run around freeside boring shit
The Omerta quest is pretty good

the rest I guess are something in the main quest or whatever
Ring a ding ding is something to do with Benny or whatever his name was
The cunt that shoots you at the start

>>381413834
Oh you mean the buggiest quest in existence? Sure was great fun to see it break in a million different ways. The start was great, the rest was broken

>the quest where you first gain access to the brotherhood
That's not a quest

>the quest involving assassinating/protecting president Kimball
It was a letdown but a highlight for sure I'll give you that

>all of the companion quests are interesting and flesh out those characters greatly
Yea true

>the quest line where you work with the kings/ncr
Kings quests sucked imo. Don't know what you mean by ncr, you mean all quests with them or what?

>>381413963
Is vault 11 that place where people killed each other then realized they didn't have to?

>>381413995
Sure
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>>381413274
>Stop being upset at opinions fag
Says the illiterate retard that got trigged over the idea of people liking something.
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>>381400856
I felt this way too. I played it for about an hour and I couldn't stand a minute more of it.
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>>381414405
>That's not a quest
You're making it really easy to just disregard everything you're saying since you're not even bothering to hide that you're a fucking idiot.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Still_in_the_Dark
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>>381414405
>the rest I guess are something in the main quest or whatever
Ring a ding ding is the first main quest of the game, you don't realise it exists because you have other smaller quests to keep you busy but it's there

Still in the Dark is the BoS quest where you search various vaults, Vault 11 included for stuff the Elder asks you too or you can just get head paladin Hardin to usurp him and change the ways of the Brotherhood

Heartache by the Number is Cass' quests where you find her caravsn and then choose how to deal with the Van Graffs and Alice McLafferty

Talent Poll wasn't anything special, but it's personally memorable because of the Lonesome Drifter who also gives you the Mysterious Magnum if you have high enough barter
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>>381400439
what game?
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>>381415057
Underrail, you have a diverse cast of furfag characters you wind up genociding.
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>>381414758
I'm literally shaking LMAO

>>381414851
Yea ignore my entire comment because I don't remember every detail from a 200+ hour that puts anyone sane to sleep
Smooth move

>>381414854
The brotherhood future quest was fine but the conflict itself is kinda odd and forced
It was something like, nobody can leave except for "some" people?
It was kinda daft

I didn't like the Cass quest because I didn't like her. I always gave her to the Vans
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>>381414405
Beyond the Beef is complex but isn't close to being the buggiest one in the game, White Wash is probably
>That's not a quest
Depending on if you have Veronica or not, if not then you are forced to do some dirty work for the BoS under the threat of an explosive collar
>It was a letdown but a highlight for sure I'll give you that
I disagree, having to figure out the 3 assassination attempts as the president arrives gives some pressure to the quest where you have to pick up on details from exploring and talking, such as Boone offering tips on where a potential sniper could be, an NPC mentioning their friend is missing who happens to be a mechanic, and then using that information to pick up on the "engineer" that tampers with Kimball's vertibird. Plus there is some unique events that occur if you do things in a specific order.
>Kings quests sucked imo. Don't know what you mean by ncr, you mean all quests with them or what?
The quest leading up to and involving the stand off between Pacer and the NCR which you can help escalate into a full on war.
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>>381415131
>but the conflict itself is kinda odd and forced
it's not like it matters since the current elder would still lift the lockdown if you finish the quest with him. Hardin is only there if you're too lazy to complete McNamara's quests
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>>381415057
A shit fallout-wanna be made by one serb who never updates the thing

>>381415134
For the president quest, I think I just spammed the VATS button until the sniper popped up
Nice they gave it some effort

>The quest leading up to and involving the stand off between Pacer and the NCR which you can help escalate into a full on war.
Yea the food thing
Didn't like it, and the King sucks. He sounds mentally damaged
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>>381415131
>Yea ignore my entire comment
You mean the parts where you agreed with me that 3/5 the quests I listed were memorable even in your eyes? Is that seriously your deflection?
Also if you want to announce that still in the dark took you 200+ hours then you're just making yourself look dense, and you really aren't helping your case for why anyone should take your opinion seriously.
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>>381415131
Just so we have a frame of reference, how about you tell us three games you think are good.
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>>381415345
>the King sucks.
You better watch the way you speak about the King, baby.
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>>381375928
I liked both, but I feel like Fallout 3 woulda been better if Bethesda didn't try to completely retcon a lot of Fallout 1 and 2's lore just to make it work.

Like...there was a whole bible written on the lore and they tried to censor it and file cease and desists to any sites hosting the original version.

It could have been great if they didn't have their heads shoved that far up their dicks.
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>>381398659

But that means they'd actually have to care about quality.
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I dunno, I like all mainline fallouts and NV
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>>381375928
New Vegas with TTW, Returning to the Capital Wasteland when i want to wander the wasteland and kill shit.
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>>381375928
Fallout 2
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>>381415753
>deflection
It was an explanation

>>381415874
I play a ton of games I'll name more than three why not

Mortal Kombat X
Super mario bros (the first one on NES, don't play or like the new ones)
Max payne series
Zeno clash 1 and 2
Some of the resident evil games
Bloodborne, dark souls 1
Xcom2
Punch out (both NES and Wii version)
All the Contra games
Payday 2
Depth
Super monday night combat
Batman Arkham games
fallout 3, new vegas and 4

My favorite game ever tho is cryostasis
You can't buy it anywhere anymore sadly
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>>381411312
it's actually a fun game, i didn't really notice bugs in my playthroughs, care to elaborate on this?
also combat isn't all that important in rpg games, just as long as it works, which it does.
anyways, people usually compare it to fallout 3 and that's why it's praised so highly.

still, a solid game
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>>381396530
Perks are just skillpoint upgrades masquerading as perks
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>>381416438
>it doesn't matter that a huge part of the game sucks
Fucking new vegas shills
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>>381416378
You sarcastically telling me to ignore your entire comment as I'd that invalidated the point I was making was an explanation?

Also,
>keep saying how shitty new vegas is
>list it as one of the games you think are good when asked to do so
Okay.
>>
New Vegas > Fallout > Fallout 2 > Tactics > BoS > Oblivion with Guns
>>
2 > 1 > NV >>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4
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>>381416602
>as if* that invalidated the point I was making
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>>381416537
>playing RPGs for the combat
sure there are some that specialise in it like Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma but they are weaker in the RPG part
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>>381416602
I still kinda like new vegas, it just has so many fucking flaws and is unfinished mess of a game
I still respect what they were trying to do and I did like some of my hours playing it, it has good parts obviously
>>
HOW LUCKY CAN ONE GUY BE
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>>381416830
I KISSED HER AND SHE KISSED ME
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>>381416752
>playing a shit game 25% of the time
Legend, a true scholar of the RPG experience
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>>381416818
I'm not sure what's sadder, someone who goes into a thread for a game he hates to call everyone who likes it a shill, or someone who goes into a thread for a game they kind of like to call everyone who likes it a shill.
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>>381416893
LIKE A FELLA ONCE SAID, AIN'T THAT A KICK IN THE HEAD
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>>381405902
>never played 1 and 2
>rated 1 and 2
>im not baiting guise

listen you sorry sack of shit ive been here for over 10 years now, im breaking my fucking nazirite vows to tell you to improve your fucking bait.
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>>381394856
Cute, quirky and intelligent. Overall just fun to be around.
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>>381416985
Because shit like this>>381416752
Isn't pure retardation?
Excusing shit game mechanics, bugs and other shit is typical of new vegas braindead shills
I like the game but I'm aware of its many shortcomings
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>>381413274
i remember every quest in that game, i'm not autistic enough to fucking memorize their names

as if that's the standard for defining a fun game
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>>381417156
>quirky
since when is obnoxious, autistic, awkward, annoying a positive character trait?
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>>381417158
are you sure he excused it or just didn't care about it because it's actually pretty non-essential?
like complaining about the graphics in tetris even though the graphics have nothing to do with the game
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>>381407150
Only modding community that got this right that I know of is the BG1 and 2 community. There difficulty mods moslty add better scripting to enemies so they act less predictably, and require a deeper knowledge of the combat system instead of just adding massive amounts of hp or damage output, which is the usual thing.
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>>381417546
Something that you're doing for 50% of the game is "non-essential"
Alright man
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>>381416909
>>381417158
I don't get how you get so butthurt when combat standards about RPGs were not really high, not to mention the combat was basically Fallout 3's but better
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>>381417158
>implying 3 was less buggy than NV
>implying NV didn't have the same mechanics as 3 and more
>other shit
the average IQ of people who prefer 3 is lower than that of niggers
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>>381417757
>better
It was the same
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>>381417829
>same
more variety in weapons, armor, consumables, enemies is not the same
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>>381375928
F1>F2>NV > (massive potential gap) F3 > F4
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>>381417902
Yea I love broken animations and 2 things that don't matter
>>
sort of off topic

but back in the day, did bethesda just buy fallout from interplay and turn it into an elder scrolls copy, or how did that go?
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>>381417982
>broken animations
what?
>2 things that don't matter
again, what?
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>>381418018
Why, it went splendidly, my fellow average user of this here image board.
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>>381418018
>and turn it into an elder scrolls copy
you'll have to explain further what you mean by that
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>>381418027
Don't act dumb
>>381418018
Fallout IP ended up dead and buried
Bethesda got the IP from them cuz the publisher went bankrupt
Bethesda revived it some years later
The end
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>>381417829
>new ammo types and craftable ammo
>weapon mods
>new weapons
>actual ironsights
>proper loading system for non-mag fed weapons
>perks that had more drastic effects on gameplay such as meltdown
>"same"
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>play F3 years ago
>be really bored with the world and locations that just feel flat out boring
>never finish the game because of that

>try FNV
>get hooked from the start
>currently finishing my 5th playthrough

>play F4
>quests are shit, don't care about settlement building, no builds and close to no skill checks
>finish the full game in 80h to have a full opinion on it and never touch it again
>>
>>381375928
The second best Fallout game is Fallout 2. The third best is Fallout Tactics. The fourth best is Fallout 1.

The worst Fallout game is not Brotherhood of Steel, that shit doesn't deserve to be associated with the franchise
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Any idea why the holograms turned into Tyrones in Sierra Madre?
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>>381375928
They are both shit. Especially NV, since idiots on /v/ delude themselves in thinking it is a great Fallout game.
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>>381405902
She looks like when you score a critical hit with an energy weapon in Fallout 2.
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>>381419152
>When seeing a hologram and then quickloading the game, the hologram's color can go dark. They still flicker, but they won't be blue anymore, and it may be hard to see them. Only way to fix this is to open console click on the hologram till the hologram non-player character's ref. ID shows up and type "resurrect".
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>>381375928
Why are some reasons some of you guys prefer 1 over 2?
in my eyes 2 is much better but i wanna hear the reasoning
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>>381404916
Wew lad, thank you for reminding me...that.

gotta check something.
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>>381419152
we
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>>381375928
The only answer to your question is 3. Reason for that is because you think 4 is the best. If you like 1 or 2 the best then the other is the second best
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>>381420502
Some people just don't like 2 because it's taking itself less serious.
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>>381420130
Oh well, thanks. I already got banned from gambling there so it doesn't really matter, and the guard holograms are blue for some reason.
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>>381404572
t. Todd Howard
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>>381377378
2>NV>1>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4
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>>381385236
>You can't even post deep sea threads anymore
What? Why does /v/ have such shit mods?
>>
SINCLAIR?

SINCLAIR!
>>
ITT: Fallout 4 apologists trying to get cute.
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>>381384592
>4 is a good
No.
>>
I thought jsawyer was suppose to make everything squishier but deal more damage? Why does a shotgun to the head not kill fucking convicts?
>>
>>381386326
We need to turn the board into twitch and youtube threads, playing games for yourself is a thing of the past. If you're not playing them for at least 200 people you're wasting your time.
>>
Why does the hunting rifle when fully repaired have more damage than a sniper rifle, yet it says it has less dps?
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>>381375928
New Vegas is overrated as fuck. Outside of the decent writing, there is nothing. Long stretches of nothing, and the 'choices' within the narrative are extremely overrated. The strip was disappointing as fuck. I mean, once you've beat feet across the mojave one time, that's it - you've seen basically all the game has to offer.

I find myself spending way more time with Bethesda's in-house Fallout games. They lack in writing a bit, but they do world design and exploration like no other. All the Obsidian fanboys seem to want a gutted, linear experience with an open-world as window dressing. Everything that Obsidian has done since NV is total shit, so I don't know what you are all expecting honestly.
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>>381426158
>All the Obsidian fanboys seem to want a gutted, linear experience with an open-world as window dressing.
It's ironic considering that in F3 you could easily break main quest if you decide to explore a bit.
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>>381426158
>choices are overrated

At least NV lets me just blast into The Fort and decapitate Caesar with my bare hands and it won't fuck up the game.
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>>381398759
>spoiler
Have you tried increasing the fov?
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>>381426470
You know whats really ironic? Obsidian is a dead studio filled with communists and social justice freaks who only care about the inclusion of faggots and trannies in their unplayed games. Good riddance, they can stay the fuck away from any Bethesda IP's from now on, thanks.
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>>381385246
Then make a New Vegas general, retard. You still wouldn't be the slowest general on /vg/.
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>>381403720
>not wanting dark nights so you have to either plan your trips around it or get Flashlight NVSE
Darker nights make the game mor fun
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>>381404217
Not him, but I'm able to separate voice actor and character. Veronica is alright, even though Felicia Day is a hypocritical judgmental piece of shit.
>>
>>381426780
i wish it made more of an impact desu, I decimated the entire camp+caesar and all I get is a little unenthusiastic radio segment
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Fallout 1 > Fallout 2 > New Vegas > Fallout 4 > Fallout 3
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>>381427149
You should have started with this. Now it's obvious that you are retarded.
>>
>>381428196
It was disappointing, but at least you're given the option to do it.

I absolutely love the voice of Mr. New Vegas but I have to turn him off after some hours because I'm tired of hearing about Goodsprings forming and impromptu militia.
>>
Where's a good place to go to get mods for 3 and New Vegas? I just recently got my first real gaming PC and I'm kinda clueless on where to start where and what to get. Any recommendations?
>>
>>381428265
Nothing retarded about it, Obsidian's current main writer is a fat white whore who is open about how she will only write with a focus on inclusion and general faggotry.

No wonder /v/ is obsessed with this fucking garbage studio, really makes you think
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>>381427149
>>381429486
>I'm not this guy
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>>381428306
I wish they recorded more lines so they could phase out old ones. Imagine NV if they had more money and time.
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>>381395032
Felicia day is one of the worst things to happen to "nerd culture"
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>>381418230
Oblivion with guns, you FUCK.
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