Nintendo NOA - Pokemon and metroid 2018

>>381360825
Fuck that fagggot in the other thread that said I was delusional when I stated they'd be out next year

and zelda was 2015

Metroid 4 will use unreal engine 4 and it will be the greatest 3D metroid

>>381360825
thats bullshit but i believe it

>>381360971
Almost every 3D zelda gets delayed, but Pokemon and Metroid is never delayed I think?

Fire emblem in 2018 and showed no footage too

>>381360825
Yeah.

>>381360825
I guess 1 up is doing prime.

Retro/gamefreak on pokemon.

>>381360825
Nintendo saw the reaction to these announcements and now they are cracking that whip. But also this >>381360971

>Here’s what was said during an interview with Venture Beat with Nintendo of America corporate communications director Charlie Scibetta.
>Charlie Scibetta
I'll believe it when I see it rather than believe some literally who American who has no fucking clue

If Xenoblade makes it this year, I believe it.
>>381361378
1 Up?

pls do not rush my prime game

just put out prime trilogy on switch in the meantime

>we're gonna focus on 2017 stuff mostly this e3
>lots of 2018 shit announced anyway
I'm not complaining but I'm confused as to why they worded it like that before the spotlight

>>381360825
No way pokemon is before 2019. Generation are never 2 years apart.

>>381361504
1 up is owned by Nintendo and haven't made a new game in a while.

>>381361084
diamond and pearl, and gold and silver were delayed.

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>Metroid on Switch
>Pokemon on Switch
>In the same year

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>>381361378
>Retro making a Pokémon game
I really doubt that but it'd be definitely interesting

>>381361668
We got Zelda and 3D Mario the same year so anything goes now.

>>381361576
I've never heard of them. I'll have to looke them up.

>>381360825
Maybe december 2018 or something then. I just hope they take their time to make real good games and don't rush them...

With metro samus returns and Pokemon ultra sun and moon.

It makes sense for Nintendo not to straight up say there coming in 2018 at e3.

They don't want to kill sales for 3ds games this year

>>381361570
It's meaningless to bring out "muh patterns" in this case. It's absolutely likely the new games will be out next year: http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/20/new-pokmon-switch-horizon-game-freak-recruiting-console-project/

>Both positions will be done in contract fashion and will last until May 2018 at the longest.

Contract work on 3D models for them ends next May at the latest.

>>381361908
Used to be brownie brown.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-UP_Studio

>>381362230
Well i guess we'll be getting less than 50 new pokemon this time. hurray

>>381362350
The can of worms is open. All "new" Pokemon will be Megas or Alola/Region forms now.

>>381361570
And new Pokemon games are never announced at E3.

>>381362235

I have no fucking idea why you would think these guys would be doing prime 4.

Retro & Gamefreak collab on pokemon though? that's actually a super interesting idea.

>>381362350
Or they reboot with few.

>>381362350
Maybe there purposely trying to hit 1000 Pokemon for gen 10.

Already 820

>>381361570
I think it's going to be a Red and Blue remake but in an Open World style in the same vein as BotW

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>>381360825
>show nothing of metroid
>2018
Bullfuckingshit.

why didn't Retro want to do Prime 4 again?

>>381362521
They just announced there working on it.

Did anyone ask Nintendo what Retro is doing?

>Metroid, Mario Kart, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Yoshi, Zelda, 3D Mario, and Kirby will all be on Switch by 2018

What's left for 2019? F-zero probably isn't coming back. There could be a Smash or Kid Icarus by then.

>>381362702
They wanted to do something new

Holy fuck
If that's true I'm going to fuck a hole through my switch.

>>381362702
they want to make a retro metroid game instead

>>381362746
Yeah, they announced a Pokemon game at E3.

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>>381362679
They didn't show anything for fire emblem and said 2018 too

Didn't even get title

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>>381362776
>F-zero probably isn't coming back.
shut up, it's coming I tell you ;_;

>>381362776
Dont forget sequals.

Marios out this year.

Metroid Prime 4 in 2018 would be super sweet. Especially since Samus Returns will make the wait super easy.
I can see it happening too. Let's assume the developement has started a short while ago. Not enough time to get any major developement done, but maybe to decide where they wanna go with it. Tanabe seemed to have an idea about how a Prime 4 would work ever since that cliffhanger from Prime 3.
Then they could just dive right in and start programming the engine while the art-team starts defining the look. If they continue the Retro Studios-look, they won't even have to come up with something entirely new, but can instead work off of it.
Echoes was done in a year and a half I believe. So this is all possible.

btw, I want that Samus Returns trailer in 3D on my 3DS, but the european eShop doesn't have it. Any way I could get it? Like could someone from the US download it from the NA shop, put it onto a SD-card, transfer it to their PC and upload it to MEGA for me? Or wouldn't that work because of region lock?

>>381362776
>KIU with a proper controller scheme

Nothing on Sony and M$ repertoire could even grasp that game.

>>381362776
Animal crossing, diamond and pearl remakes. Smash bros.

>>381362586
They're the only other studio left besides ncube who makes mario party and animal crossing party.

Unless Nintendo decides to go thrid party with Metroid.

>>381362881
A metroid game takes a lot more effort to develop than a yearly weeb turn based RPG

>>381361378
I can see Retro making something akin to Colosseum/GoD. Still horseshit.

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>>381360825
>Want to keep my library digital.
>Mario Odyssey is $47 on Amazon for physical.
I don't know what to do.

>>381362759
BBQ simulator, you can feel the meat thanks to HD rumble.

>>381363098
>yearly weeb turn based RPG
how the mighty have fallen

>>381362803
well I'm not complaining if we get Prime 4 AND something new from Retro for the Switch soon

metroid prime 4 is gonna be extremely rushed if that's the case

they had literally nothing they could show this year, not even a CG concept trailer

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>>381362986
>KIU Switch
>you hold the Joycons like for ARMS
>tilt left joycon to move
>tilt right joycon to aim
>L/R to shoot/dodge
yes/no?

>>381363161
Why would you NOT want a physical release?
What's the advantage of digital? I can understand Steam, because you install the games and never use the disc again and also the games are like 5 bucks...
But why on a console, let alone a Nintendo system?

>>381360958
It's going to be rushed as hell then considering they only just started development.

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>Pokemon generations on three year cycles
>only putting a years worth of work in the Switch title since they started somewhere between March and January of this year

>>381363275

Why do people keep saying this? They showed what they wanted to show, do you think BG&2 is farther in development than MP4?

Metroid Prime 4 was announced early since for some reason they didn't want to put Samus Returns in the Direct.

Pokemon is pratically a month into development and best and was only announced as damage control to the backlash from the previous week's Direct.

>>381360825
Lies. Nintendo will have plenty of titles for 2018 even if Pokemon and Metroid doesn't happen. Kirby, Yoshi, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Wii U ports. Whatever Retro new game is.

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>>381360825
>2018

>Pokemon
> Metroid
>Fire Emblem
>Senran Kagura
>Platinum Game
2018 is already under their thumb

>>381360825
Some of these might be made with unreal. I know yoshi is. Kirby isn't though.

Hals doing Kirby. intelligent systems is doing fire emblem. Gamefreak is doing a core pokemon game.

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Update. Both still TBD

>>381363327
this. having a thousand games on steam is fine, but a console that only has space for half a dozen games at a time, you're better off buying as many physical games as u can. keep the sapce for the ones thata re actually digital-only.

t.8GB wiiu owner
(idgaf tho, i have an old 320gb hdd plugged to it either way, but you cant do that on a fucking portable console)

>>381363294
Anything is better than those hideous controls that it has on 3DS, top tier game whit a horrendous control scheme.

>>381363498
You faggots said the same about fire emblem 2018

>>381363376
It's not like they use that time, pkmn games are pretty low quality compared to most Nintendo series.

>>381363264
I just hope they don't fall for the Destiny/Anthem meme

>>381363294
I don't give a fuck as long as there's an option for traditional controls

>>381362592
You're a dumbfuck

>>381363625
50% nintendo dont follow trends, and the other 50% when they do, they do it right

>>381363098
Not really. We have yearly shooting games.

I guess they probably hired some third party studio good at shooting games.

>>381363598
low quality games
high quality waifus

>>381363706
>metroid prime is a shooting game
xDD

>>381363695
Nope. You are faggot not understanding the normies and lasped fans who hate most new pokemon.

>>381363567
>No change in what we announced last week, which is that those two games are coming, but they have no specifically announced release window/year.

good
I really don't want this rushed
if 4 is mediocre we may never recover

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I'm excited.

>>381363090
Fucking Brownie Brown isn't making Metroid Prime.
They could have formed a new team just for Metroid Prime 4
See: Project Sora and Kid Icarus Uprising

>>381361084
Metroid Dread would like a word

>>381363567
>No change in what we announced last week, which is that those two games are coming, but they have no specifically announced release window/year.

Damage Control.

>>381363752
Yeah first person and fps. Nintendo agrees.

Retard

>>381363090
Prime 4 is being developed in-house at EAD. Tanabe said they didn't want to partner with anyone back in 2015.

>>381363864
Metroid Prime is a first person adventure game, retardino.

>>381363837
Then what is brownie brown doing?

>>381363782
Pokemon games still sell way more than most other franchises and most people like them. They will not reboot it and undo the ability to bring your Pokemon from the old games.
You're an old man yelling at clouds

Given Nintendo's recent focus on multiplayer, do you think there's a good chance of online multiplayer for Prime 4?

>>381363625
That would never happen.

>>381363376
I'm its been in development for a while

>>381363656
>>381363575
>m-muh traditional controls
Fuck off retards, Sakurai already said the game wouldn't work with those
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/05/sakurai_dual_analogue_control_in_kid_icarus_uprising_was_technically_impossible

>>381363275
>>381362679
They could have held off on showing the switch Metroid and Pokémon so people will buy the 3ds ones this fall instead of holding off Until the switch games

>>381363370
who says they only started development? Just because they didn't bother with an expensive cg trailer this e3 doesn't mean they haven't been working on them

Realistically, how many Switches could be sold because of a Mainline Pokemon game?

>>381364128
3.5 gorillions

>>381364097
Pokemon didn't even get a logo. And it's not that difficult to piece together some gameplay footage or just show concept art. They're both in the early stages of development, guaranteed.

>>381364128
>mainline pokémon game with 720p, maybe 1080p, graphics
>playable on the go or on the TV
30-40M

>>381363941
>>381363950
>>381363995
Retards with no facts

>>381363965
Look at their history, they mostly do development assistance with other studios on their games.

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>>381364328
:) kys

>>381364328
They will never reboot Pokemon. The closest thing to a reboot they'll ever do is Black and White. Get the fuck over it.

>>381364097
Pretty sure that with one of them, pokemon I think, they said that it just started development in the spotlight.

>>381363837
>Project Sora and Kid Icarus Uprising
Fuck this shit.

>great team that bothers to experiment with gameplay, makes interesting challenges and does a great job balancing casual and hardcore audiences
>use it for one game and no more
Second game by Project Sora when?

>>381364013
I don't think so. They already have Mario Kart, Splatoon and Smash as the big hitters so it doesn't seem necessary.

>>381360825
>Metroid Prime 4 2018
I advised that they delay it until 2019. I have a bad feeling Nintendo will fuck up again and release the game around the same time as Halo 6. Halo 6 is going back to its roots putting Master Chief in the forefront and bring back split screen and lan, it will also have everything at launch this time. Nintendo has to stop doing this.

>>381364128
maybe a couple hundred seeing as that's all they are making

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>>381364272
Have you considered that Pokemon didn't get a logo because they didn't want to reveal its name just yet?

>>381362658
>Red and Blue remake but in an Open World
pffffffff hahahahahahah

>>381364128
Everyone who buys the game also buys a switch, then 12-18M. As nearly everyone who has bought a switch up until now is probably also a Pokemon player and we assume this trend continues (first year buys are probably dedicated Nintendo fan who buy everything Nintendo) by this time next year there will be 6-8M switches so 12M-8M = 4M sales.

>>381360825

I guess it helps when you're just rehashing the same games over and over. Surprised it won't be out sooner.

>>381364625
Halo is old hat by now.

>>381364491
Project Sora was just the name for Sakurai and Nintendo's partnership.
Really, all Sakurai needs is a bunch of competent programmers and full creative control. He doesn't have his own studio.

>>381362658
Just because Nintendo fell for the open world meme for one of their franchises doesn't mean they'd make that same mistake again.

>>381364736
Good point.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if they stockpile the things and then release them all out a month or two before Pokemon Switch drops.

>>381364919
Open World Pokemon needs to happen.
But not for the mainline RPGs, it needs to be a Pokemon Snap revival.

does the Switch have achievements/trophies?

just thinking this would be cool for exploring every inch of MP4

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>>381364404
Lol using wiki retard. The makers in japan called it a shooter.

>>381364825
Master Chief sells Halo
Halo 1 sold over 5 million
Halo 2 sold 8 million
Halo 3 sold over 14 million
Halo 4 sold around 8 million
You see pattern here? Halo games that star someone else always sell worse.

>>381365006
Oh god yes

>>381365007
>just thinking this would be cool for exploring every inch of MP4
Doesn't the game reward you for doing this?
Why does it need to be an achievement?

>>381364774
Or because there releasing a mainline Pokemon this holidays and don't wanna fuck up the sales

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>>381364128
Around 15 million at least. Pokemon has tons of fans and the first HD Pokemon that you can play on your TV and a controller? It will break records.

>>381360971
second post best post

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>>381364886
reminder
sakurai also bought a figure of some kind of mecha with a rifle 'as reference for my next game' (specifically he was interested in the weapon)
place your bets

>>381360971
And it is amazing.

I wouldn't mind a delay on the new metroid, as long as it is what BotW is to the Zelda franchize.

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>>381360825
Soooo, a 3D Metroid is gonna have a sub 2 year dev cycle?
Yeah fucking right

That or Nintendo is rushing it in which case fuck em

>>381365006
That's actually a really good idea for a spinoff game. Wander around diverse environments and take pictures of pokemon. That would be pretty comfy.

>>381362776
Smash, Kid Icarus, new Zelda, DK, Eternal Darkness 2

>>381364886
Sakurai is a great director, Dreamland, Kirby Air Ride, Smash Bros and Uprising are all fantastic games full of things to do.
It is a shame he is mostly used for Smash Bros (which he is clearly bored of) without having much time for something else.

>>381365067
That's not nintendo's website though?
:thinking:

>>381363950
>you shoot things
>is in first person
>not a fps

>>381364774
GameFreak will pretend like it doesn't exist until well after Ultra Sun/Moon have run their course.

The only reason they revealed it so early is because all the morons who don't remember the same exact thing happening with the DS and 3DS complained about no Switch version

>>381365076
Halo peaked with 3 and it's been downhill ever since. Metroid is a very different game so it makes no sense to compare the two. All Nintendo needs to do is market it.

>>381365134
>Mario Kart Wii outsold ORAS in 2016 despite no online and being ~8 years old.
Neat.

>>381365107
You're pretty much right about that, considering Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon releases in November.
Regardless, Pokemon on Switch WILL be 2018.

>>381360825
>Metroid
Wow, great
>Pokemon
It's going to be a rushed pile of shit

>>381360825
I will cut my own head off if both of these games come out in 2018.

>>381362776
Mario kart 8 doesn't count.

>>381365161
The game is did not start being developed yesterday, we have no idea how long the game has been worked on.

>>381365329
>Regardless, Pokemon on Switch WILL be 2018.
Don't get your hopes up.
Pokemon Switch will most definitely be the beginning of gen8, if it releases in 2018 it would make Gen7 the shortest gen too date.

You also have to figure GameFreak will struggle with development on a new console like they always do because despite making the biggest franchise ever they can't hire more people for some reason

>>381365257
Go google japan stuff retard. Its fps regardless of your autism.

>>381365302
Not really, Halo was at its worse when Master Chief left the scene in 2007 when he returned in 2012 Halo was hitting sales records again, Halo 4 sold very well despite its playbase drop. Halo 5 undersold when people found out about Chief getting sidelined, no split screen and lan also helped, but even then Halo 5 sales are still in the 6 millions..

>>381365134
>Spaltoon more than 5M already
For being a new IP released on a dead console, those sure are amazing numbers. How the fuck Nintendo managed to do this?
I can bet not even them imagined success a success.

>>381360825
Some /v/ larper "leaked" this a few days ago, I guess it kinda suggests that it's further along that suspected?

>During a Skype conversation in May 2017, I was made aware of a supposed Metroid home console game, seemingly for the Switch. The game, of course, was confirmed at Nintendo’s E3 Spotlight. A few details of the Skype call.

>My source was not aware of ‘Metroid: Samus Returns’ on 3DS, suggesting the game is handled by a completely different team with few, if any, overlapping members
>Prototypes and concepts go back to “what must be early 2015, they’ve been trying to figure out what to do with Metroid for a while”
>Metroid Prime 4 was added to the E3 spotlight “pretty late in the game” and my source stressed “this information was made known to me earlier in the week”
>Nintendo considers the early reveal of “Zelda for WiiU” to be a mistake, and opted for a short teaser for Metroid Prime 4
>Development is beyond the concept stages, a gameplay teaser “could have been possible for E3, if E3 were held just a week later”
>Early concepts included a take at the “cinematic experience” genre, supposedly “a bit like Uncharted or The Last of Us, very heavy on cutscenes and motion capture”
>The concept and development was locked in to the Metroid Prime 4 formula after the negative reception to “Metroid Prime: Federation Force”
>The current game plan is described as “the same, but different” by my source

>>381364289
Pokemon isn't like 3d mario, mario kart that release 1 game per console. Have long legs.1 game every 4-5 years

Pokemon pumps 3-4 mainline games per system

It's like COD and fifa
I
3ds is getting 4 mainline games

Pokemon x and y

Pokemon omega ruby and alpha sapphire

Pokemon sun and moon

Pokemon ultra sun and moon

They want 12-15 million sales every year

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>>381365556
nice source you got there, phoneposter
I'm sure you know more than NoA's CEO right?

>>381365642
>How the fuck Nintendo managed to do this?
Effective marketing

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>>381365153
Apparently it's inspired by Round Vernian Vifam. A mecha game? Maybe a FPS or TPS?

>>381363706
>yearly shooting games.
Do you even know how many people work on Call of duty?

>>381363294
just make it like Sin and Punishment gameplay

>>381365694
Metroid Prime's "First Person Adventure" is a subgenre of FPS.

FPS doesn't mean it has to be exactly like CoD. It just means it is in first person and you shoot.

>>381365385
kys

...wait

>>381365787
Custom Robo by Soccer Eye?

>>381365615
I wasn't talking about sales. I'm saying the series sucks now. Halo had a lot of potential but they threw it all away https://twitter.com/SmashBros_Nin/status/800929401525469184

>>381360825
>Delayed until 2020.
At least for Metroid.

>>381365510
Yeah but lets be real, there was no need to add the "now in development"
It felt tacked on as if to say "don't get your hopes up any time soon guys"
So it's now probably in actual production this year probably either last year or few were pre production

>>381365810
Fps arent hard to make. Lazy ass.

>>381362658
I just can't imagine the torrent of shitpost and damage control /v/ is gonna be under if that happens hahahaha ( i do want it to happen)

>>381360971
I'm okay with MP4 getting delayed. The longer Nintendo takes to make sure it's absolutely perfect, the fucking better.

>>381365694
Reggies always wrongl noa lol.

>>381366052
Yeah. A lot of developers always write a release year and then delay it for whatever reason. Ace Combat, RDR2, and others were all delayed this year.

>>381365928
It doesn't matter about it's potential, Tanabe keeps fucking up Prime's potential because he keeps believing the Prime series can challenge Halo. Metroid Prime will never reach up to 3 millions sells again because of these crappy launch windows. I can already see Metroid Samus Returns outselling Prime 4.

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>>381363656
>>381363575
>Mfw Sakurai is sticking to his guns on KI:U's "no traditional controls" rule
Probably no port because there isn't a stylus but maybe one with gyro controls, nothing but aiming with them though for the love of fucking god, make sure it stays free of ARMS cancer.
I hope he also sticks to his "All versions of Smash 4 must have the same roster and gameplay" rule if it gets ported to the Switch

Based Sakurai.

>TFW finally broke down and bought Super Metroid on N3DS
>TFW I never knew how much I wanted handheld Metroid before experiencing a full fledged, ungimped Metroid on handheld

I'm excited for both 2bh

>>381366052
This is Nintendo we are talking about, they don't like to show videos that won't look like the final product, they have already said to announce Zelda so early.
They probably just don't have a sure date for Metroid right now, but I think they might be producing it for a while now. I can believe 2 years or so of work by now.

>>381365668
He may be right.

Nintendo had to have learned from the zelda mistake

>>381365668
>The concept and development was locked in to the Metroid Prime 4 formula after the negative reception to “Metroid Prime: Federation Force”
Fucking right, it better have

>>381366161
I kno rite? xDDD
>maybe you can ask me about Metroid. Look, again, I am proud as an executive with Nintendo to say that we look at all of the boards and all of the comments and we really have a good understanding of what our consumers want. And believe me, we take that to heart as we work to create content.
>So I have nothing to announce - here. But we are aware that there are some key IP that consumers just can't wait for the next true installment in that franchise's legacy. Suffice it to say, we're aware of it, and talk to me in a year and let's look back and see what's happened.
>January 2017
>5 months later, 2 metroid games announced

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>>381365928
>https://twitter.com/SmashBros_Nin/status/800929401525469184
Sakurai can be pretty based.

>>381366317
>But we are aware that there are some key IP that consumers just can't wait for the next true installment in that franchise's legacy
I hope they make more Kid Icarus games

>>381366580
>KI
>not fucking F-Zero
come on son, Pit got a new game just a few years ago. It's the Cap's turn now

>>381360825
Sony always wins ninten-drone

>>381366580
>>381366692
There's no need to mess with perfection. Give me a port so I can play the multiplayer again at most.

>>381366317
So triggered over my facts.


Lol reggies always wrong.

>>381365161
Now in development usually means they have all the foundation work done if it's a AAA game. Reggie has been hinting a main title metroid was in development over 2 years ago so "now in development" probably just means it has a full sized team instead of the smaller base. They are probably giving it the zelda treatment.

>>381366784
For KI:U*

>>381366815
What facts?

Why does Nintendo suck so bad at announcing games? I get not wanting to overshare and under-deliver, or announce things before they're ready to be shown, but they're so clumsy and haphazard about it that it seems like Nintendo just doesn't have a marketing department.

Every time they have a Direct, there's a portion where they just show a title card and say "it's totally coming, get excited" and that's it. Other times, they don't even go that far. I think it was during the Wii Music E3 debacle, I remember that they didn't announce anything at their conference, and then at a press briefing at another location hours later, Miyamoto sheepishly threw out "we're making a new pikmin" to placate people disappointed by Wii Music.

That's not even a title card. That's your announcement of Pikmin 3? Why bother?

I just don't understand why Nintendo seems incapable of waiting while silently developing a game, getting to a point where they can put together a simple trailer showing some gameplay concepts, and THEN announce it, like every other developer anywhere does.

>>381366119
It won't happen. One of the main draws of Pokemon is being able to transfer your Pokemon from old games to the new ones. A reboot would destroy that. They won't give up a decade of progress in that area just for the open world reboot meme

>>381363782
Why are genwunners so fucking cancerous? Most fans like the new Pokemon. You aren't a fan and they shouldn't cater to outsiders like you.

NINTENDO WON

>>381367286
They seem to have eased up on the whole "only announce games if they're coming this year" thing. Metroid Prime 4 got a video, they announced Pokemon in a very casual way but at least they announced it. They had a good presentation.

>>381366971
My facts.

>>381367535
Most don't.

>>381367858
No, (You) don't like them. Most fans do.

>>381363838
Delayed and cancelled are two different things. Dread is never coming out.

>>381367286
>>381367759

They managed to make a core console Pokémon game and Metroid Prime announcements somehow sound not exciting to me, and I'm a huge fan of both series. I'd rather they remained silent or at least put some effort and release a trailer, it doesn't even need to be gameplay, just something more tangible than what they did.

>>381362776
Paper Mario, I hope

>>381360825
my wallet in 2018 BTFO

>>381360825
I believe it. People need to start realizing, that while Nintendo had problems starting off with making Wii U games because they weren't used to making HD games back then, now that has changed. Plus they seem to have started getting used to using unreal engine 4. Also the pokemon guy literally said they only needed a year.

>>381364625
YeH, look how horizon had butchered botw releass

>>381367858
>Most don't.
>Am I out of touch? No, its the fans who are wrong

>>381360825
>gf releasing after a year on a new console

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>>381367759
>They had a good presentation

>"okay here's 20 minutes of shit you already knew about, and 5 minutes of saying the titles of games that we can't show you or talk to you about"

Nintendo did not have a good presentation. Nintendo bungled what could have been the biggest announcement of E3 by saying "hey metroid's comin'... BYEEEEE"

>>381368192
Anon, just let the series die while it still has a shred of dignity left.
They can't make proper Paper Mario games anymore. They can only make garbage like Color Splash.

>>381361563
for the suprises?

they were pretty much the only ones who talked about things we didnt know about

>>381368184
>or at least put some effort and release a trailer
Why do people want this? Why trailers? Square Enix releases trailers but their games are 5 years away.

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>>381365668
>>Early concepts included a take at the “cinematic experience” genre, supposedly “a bit like Uncharted or The Last of Us, very heavy on cutscenes and motion capture”

Please be fake
Please be fake
Please be fake

>>381368389
I'm sorry Anon. I can't let it go ;_;

>>381368389
I'm sorry Anon. I can't let it go ;_;

>>381361563
Its the response to last year's E3 backlash:
>Last years E3
>Nothing besides Zelda
>Reggie: "We do not want people to get excited for games not coming out this year."

They went with a balance this year, and it worked.

>>381367958
>>381368275
MOST DONT.

Now stop being wrong.

>>381368257
Dude, this happened twice already, Halo 2 killed Prime 2 in sales, Halo 3 killed Prime 3 in sales, and Halo 6 will kill Prime 4 in sales. With all the hype on a Metroid game, you would expect Tanabe to make a smart move like Miyamoto with Prime 1 and release the game a year after. Prime will never reach the high sales of Metroid Prime 1 and that's unfortunate.

>>381368668
>MOST DONT.
Prove it, you autistic piece of shit.

>>381368415

How are screenshots with 'now in development' better than trailers? Why are you comparing Nintendo with Square Enix instead of comparing Nintendo with Nintendo?

They should have waited until they had footage to show, like they did with Super Mario Oddyssey or Smash Bros 4 or Mario Kart 8 back in the Wii U days.

>>381368498
Its bs like most leaks.

They said that Metroid is in early development, so I'd rather they don't rush it and take till 2019. Rushed Nintendo games are never as good as they can be like Prime 2 and Mario Sunshine.

>>381360825
>2018 Pokemon

Delayed or an absolute garbage of a game.

You need to realize that Gamefreak can't work on 1 year anymore.

>>381368684
>non related exclusives killed another platform
Thise are mutually co related imbecile

>>381361570
Are you a idiot? The pokemon guy even said "around a year" of time.

I just hope for Pikmin World next year

>>381360971
Yeah but this isn't Zelda.

>>381368731
Sales went down, normies LEFT. Pokemon go being bigger for a while due to old pokemon only.

(Go eventually got old due to the non rpg gameplay)

You are playing a niche series. And you have autism for liking black and white.

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>>381368747
>How are screenshots with 'now in development' better than trailers?
It's called a teaser and yes, it's perfectly fine after all the dumb shit Nintendo has done. All I hear is a bunch of kids complaining because they wanted more CG trailers that achieve fucking nothing.
>They should have waited until they had footage to show
Please, do me a favor. Never think again. About anything. Nintendo was awful with this before.

>>381368794
Do you remember when Nintendo stated that Wii U games development is going slower then normal because they aren't used to using HD games development tools yet? Well they are used to those tools now, and thus can make games faster then they did with the Wii U. Its not that they are rushing, its just that they are more used to using their development tools now.

>>381368184
You could argue that the time spent on trailers can be used on actually making the game.

>>381369050
>Sales went down
Wrong, Sun and Moon were the most pre-ordered games in Nintendo history
>You are playing a niche series
You are truly delusional if you think Pokemon is niche
Seriously anon, you're an old man yelling at clouds. Pokemon is still popular. It will never be rebooted.

>>381368972
Miyamoto said in a interview that Pikmin 4 is close to finished. Expect it late this year, or early next year really.

>>381369326
It's definitely not this year. It might be announced in a direct next year as a summer release, and then show it more off during the next E3 like with arms and splatoon 2.

>>381369075
I agree with this anon. In the future, I hope all E3 press conferences are someone wandering onto the stage, saying "Uhhhh.... We're gonna maaaaake... Um help me out here what's a good franchise we've got? Oh, oh man that's right, we're gonna make a new Gran Turismo. Okay thanks for coming everybody have a great E3 goodbye see you all next year" and then leaving. Gameplay is overrated and unneeded when showing off video games.

>>381369050
>Sales went down, normies LEFT.
>https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/3ds.html
>15.44 million
Huh

>>381362776
Smash is a guarantee, if not an outright new game than an enhanced port of 4.

AC is another

>>381369460
Its going to be revealed in a direct this year, and come out in January.

>>381369560
I have the feeling Smash Deluxe will be the game they will use to entice people on entering the paid online program.

>>381369050
>normies LEFT
Pokemon GO was THE normie game for a month. Were you under a fucking rock? They actually attracted normalfags who had never played a pokemon game into the franchise with Sun/Moon.

>>381369712
>>381369560
I foresee people being utterly furious if Smash 4 gets ported instead of a new Smash developed. I don't think even diehard fanboys would take that lying down.

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>>381369050
>m-muh facts!!!
Lol, stay BTFO you delusional autist

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>>381368906
I think Prime 2 and 3 sales says enough.

>>381369712
I could see it coming with a 30 day free trial.

>>381369212

You realize the marketing team has nothing to do with the development team, right? And by that logic, why even make a spotlight video in the first place, just have a press release to announce the games you're working on to save time and money for the development team.

>>381369478
But that's why Nintendo is so good. They show trailers with gameplay. Others just have Ubisoft people talking over the action

>>381369907
Where was the gameplay for Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch, anon?

>>381362776
2019 will have another attempt at Star Fox, a sequel to Mario + Rabbids spawning its own turn based tactical series just like how SMRPG spawned its own turn based RPG series, Super Mario Maker 2, Smash 5, Bayonetta 3, and Donkey Kong Country Returns 3.

>>381363370
Consider your own retardation for a moment.

When they are at a point where they actually announce these games to the public, they are far enough past the R&D phase to even consider canceling the games.

They have absolutely not "only just started development."

>>381369907
This, pretty much everyone else has people talking over the game or start with some prerendered cutscene.
Nintendo? It's a teaser and then later a gameplay trailer.

>>381369789

Metroid Prime 4 will probably make a bit less than Metroid Prime 1 numbers, because of the huge wait between titles. It's still very low and will probably mean another hiatus for the series.

Not surprised. Gotta find a way to pad those year-one Switch sales figures, after all. When 2018 rolls around, we'll get the usual "Please Understand" line instead.

Honestly, I'd rather they get "delayed" (along with Xenoblade 2). The last thing I want to see is Nintendo rushing games out just to pacify early adopters and having them end up mediocre.

>>381370005
>2019 will have another attempt at Star Fox
kek no it won't
Command wasn't anywhere near as big of a flop as Zero was, and it still killed Star Fox for 10 years

>>381363515
>That guy who kept saying Mario Odyssey was guaranteed to be delayed
>when no Mario game ever gets delayed

The only Nintendo games that get delayed are Zelda games, really.

>>381364272
Pokemon's Switch announcement was pretty obviously a panic response to the fan reaction of the Nintendo Direct that was just a few days prior.

>>381369818
Devs usually have to polish quite a lot for the scenes that will be included in the trailer, and that's usually not how Nintendo does it anyways. They will show the game when it's ready.

>>381369907
>>381370073
The samefag is so obvious helen keller could spot it.

>>381369983
I don't get why you're getting so butthurt from this.

>>381370073
To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time that an announced game was cancelled. Although it has to take a huge issue to do so.

>>381360825
did retards think entirely new games announced mid 2017 with no footage in game were gonna be out this year?

Are people literally this retarded?

>>381370092
I kind of depends whether they can tap into some new audiences with 4.

But dang, a game with a "4" at the end doesn't exactly look inviting to newcomers. If I was in charge I'd think of something else.

>>381370283
Shit meant for >>381370036

>>381360825
Yes Nintenbros, BELIEVE. It'll be more fun to see you fall apart in a couple of years. The cycle shall not be broken.

>>381370279
Who is butthurt? I'm asking where the gameplay was. You said they show trailers with gameplay, my dude. So where is the gameplay for Metroid Prime 4 or Pokemon Switch?

>>381370331
It worked for EO and SMT which were both way more niche titles on the 3DS. You'd be surprised.

What if they do this to compete with the new ps4 only monster hunter in japan?

>>381370283
>>381370398

True, it wouldn't be, but you know they wouldn't fuck around with Pokémon and Metroid fans.

>>381365668
Where's that from

>>381370092
Here's the issue, Nintendo will be going against Microsoft's advertisements on Halo 6, Nintendo won't promote Metroid Prime 4 enough, while Microsoft will go nuts with Halo 6. to make matters worse after Halo 6's absence from E3 this year, people will be very anticipated to finally see Master Chief kicking alien ass in 4K 60fps. Metroid Prime 4 may not even surpass Prime 3 sales.

>>381370408
It doesn't matter what state it is in when it comes out. Nintendo fanboys will still fight tooth and nail to say it's the best game ever and everyone is jealous.

>>381370439
>You said they show trailers with gameplay
Yeah, and they do. Everybody knows this. Even when EA was going to show "gameplay" all they did was being annoying and talk over the action. They treated it like a fucking let's play.

>>381370331
>a game with a "4" at the end doesn't exactly look inviting to newcomers
Eh, did well enough for Monster Hunter.

>>381370491
Nips already want the PC version over the PS4 version
You should have seen the begging in the streams.

>>381370474
Depends how the game is made as well. SMT4 is babies first SMT, it was very welcoming to newcomers.

I assume Prime 4 is going to be as well. Start fresh with little ties to the previous trilogy, re-introduce all mechanics.

>>381370586
Where is the gameplay for Metroid Prime 4 and Pokemon Switch, anon?

>>381370286
Nobody thought that. The debate is whether they're coming in 2018 or 2019.

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>>381369050
sun and moon did 15million sales in less than a year, bubber
if you're gonna talk about facts at least put in a modicum of research before you spew shit

>>381367286
>not allowed to announce them as soon as development starts or people whine
>not allowed to announce them as soon as the have s passable trailer ready or people whine
>not allowed to just point out that a game is being made or people whine
>not allowed to announce them too close to release or people whine
>no CGI allowed, gameplay isn't HOYPE enough, title cards aren't allowed, devs aren't allowed
Fuck off.

>>381370474
Sure, it could work. But it's a potential barrier of entry, even if it is also a potential seal of series pedigree.

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>>381370664

>>381366226
>that one guy who likes motion controls and hasn't played arms but talks shit about it nonstop
gettin real tired of your shit, anon

>>381366226
Neck yourself.

>>381360825
Even if these two do come out in 2018 (which I doubt), what other big stuff is the Switch going to have next year? Just those? Those Yoshi and Kirby games are all well and good but they're not exactly system sellers.

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>>381371205
>what other big stuff is the Switch going to have next year?
Animal Crossing probably. Whatever other studios are working on like From Software, Platinum, Retro.

>>381370557
I hope you are aware that Halo and Metroid as series share almost none of the same audience.

>>381370742
>>381370742
>at least put in a modicum of research before you spew shit
You're asking way too much from a genwunner, anon.

>>381365538
Its gonna be a remake though

>>381371205
>What other big stuff is the Switch going to have this year besides this big stuff

4 big games is one per quarter, that's not bad

I expected that Prime 4 started as a WiiU game so 2018 was what I expected

>>381370557
Halo and Metroid Prime may have vaguely been competing back near the start of the 6th gen, but that's really not the case, anymore.

>>381371205
I can't fucking see the future, mate. What will the PS4 have going for it in 2019? What will the Xbox 1 X 2 have in 2022? What will the Super 4DS XL micro have in 2040?

>>381371205
with Mario being Q4 they'll be sitting pretty for the following 8 months until the next E3

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I have a feeling that Pokemon will get delayed, or at the very least will be like December 2018 and the only reason why they even announce it is because nerds were screeching about how the pokemon direct didn't show anything.

I just hope they don't give away so much information like they did with OR/AS.

>>381371205

>(which I doubt)

>Shit, Mario Odyssey turned out to actually be coming out this year. Better start talking out my ass about next year's games.

And they you go on to question the rest of the 2018 line-up? Right after fucking E3?

Step it up, sempai.

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>>381362776
>Breath of the Wild Gaiden
>Call of Eternal Darkness
>Wave Race Tsunami
>Kid Icarus Revolt
>Smash Bros Kerfuffle
It'd be the hypest shit, anon.

>>381371483
Did your uncle who works at Game Freak tell you that?

>>381369789
How is that evidence halo had anything to do??
Halo is. Fps , metroid is a fps adventure

>>381371395
Key word, almost, Metroid Prime back in the day was compared to Halo back when it was releasing in 2002. I'm sure many fans of Halo fans went out to buy Metroid Prime as they waited for Halo 2 to release. then there was a significant sales drop with Prime's sequels Prime 2 and 3 which released around the same time as Halo 2 and 3, do you believe that this was a coincidence?

>>381371580
NoA believed that Geist was a "Halo-killer" in that gen. Apart from monty oum and retards on the internet arguing about what genre Prime is, no one really associates the two series.

>>381371719
Remember how everyone was going on about
>lol, they yur delusional if you think Xenoblade 2 will be out this year! Late 2018 at best, with a few months gap for localization and censoring! XD
/v/ is filled with idiots.

>>381370557
Who is the faggot that keep trying to pair halo with prime series??

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>>381371818
>Wave Race Tsunami
Don't play with my emotions, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNnfTVkpN4

>>381371483
This.

If remakes of Pearl/Diamond actually become a thing, they'd use these for testing the waters on Switch.

>>381371205
Metroid
Pokemon
Fire emblem
Platinum Game
2 Senran Kagura game
monster hunter 5: World Hunt

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>Still can't preorder Metroid SR in Germanistan
Help me /v/.

>>381360825
>not footage at all(well metroid at least have the logo finished) and expect a 2018released
bawhwahawhhawhawhwa it took 4years to finish zelda and it was rushed and unoptimized af since it cant even run at 60fps

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>>381369050
Pokemon x and y is the highest selling 3ds game. Which came 3 years before Pokemon go lol

16 million

Omega ruby and alpha sapphire highest selling remakes. 2014
13 million
Did pokemon go help Pokemon sun and moon? Absolutely but it still would have sold a shit ton of copies

You can't be a niche franchise when. You have 3 out of top 4 most sold games on a system

>>381370742
Shut up monkey. Still disnt outsell the old ones.

The generation that made your games what they are.

>>381372008
Pretty solid thing to do. 1-2 objectively good, 3 tries to be too mainstream, ends up being boring. 4 is made by a new studio.

>>381372293
Niche franchise.

>>381372227
>weeaboo is sad because he can't give money fast enough
You should be sad that you're still alive

>>381372485
>If I repeat it enough maybe people will believe me

>>381371987
Some people need to feel like they have figured it all out. These people also keep the "artificial scarcity" meme alive.

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>>381360971
Metroid and Pokemon don't have Aonuma working on them.

>>381372412
But Halo 3 is the best Halo in the series.

>>381372008
>>381371950
>>381371917
>>381371580
Here the problem though, gaming journalism, those faggots will once again pit Halo and Metroid Prime against each other like they did back in the day.

>>381370920
ARMS is everything wrong with motion controls faggot. Just because I like video games doesn't mean I liek bad ones, same goes for motion controls

>>381372412
>3 tries to be too mainstream
Except that Prime 3 was trying to be like Halo. And Halo was already mainstream, so Halo 3 was what? Trying to be like Halo?

>>381372547
AS is literally a meme by contrariasn to try to undermine the popularity of a Nintendo product

>>381371948
>I'm sure many fans of Halo fans went out to buy Metroid Prime as they waited for Halo 2 to release.

I'm sure they didn't. And neither of us have proof.

>then there was a significant sales drop with Prime's sequels Prime 2 and 3 which released around the same time as Halo 2 and 3, do you believe that this was a coincidence?

This occured because the series had proved to be a rather aquired taste, however brilliant. They first only sold so much better than all other Metroid games ever because of the rave reviews and all the coverage as "the Citizen Kane of games". It was THE single-player game to own if you had a GameCube.

Also, 2 and 3 aren't as good, and certainly don't maintain the novelty.

>>381372857
>arms is wrong with motion controllers
Look at this spaghetti arms faggot

>>381372857
Elaborate

>>381360825
METROID PRIME FOUUUUUUUUUUUR

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>>381367374
>One of the main draws of Pokemon is being able to transfer your Pokemon from old games to the new ones.
>A reboot would destroy that. They won't give up a decade of progress in that area just for the open world reboot meme

The Pokebank is still a thing , they can release an open world reboot while allowing you transfer you old Pokemon when you get enough metals or whatever like the other games.

It's not like the RBY and GSC to RS transition when they were limited by hardware, nowadays you'll only have to download a few kilobytes of data to get you Mons back.

>>381373070
There are people who genuinely believe that Bank can't go to the Switch for reasons.

>My Nintendo news

Aren't these the same faggots who got a bunch of leaks wrong?

That would mean Gen 7 would only be 2 years long, it came out in 2016 and ended in 2018. Is that the shortest Pokemon generation?

>>381373070
>>381373171
Did you retards even read the post that was being replied to?
These people want a reboot that gets rid of the newer pokemon and goes open world (implying a new battle system)

>>381372901
It keeps amusing how they can't ever reason soudnly for why anyone would want to do what they claim.

The term doesn't even cover withholding of stock in the first place, it's used about advertisement lingo.

>>381364919


>The same mistake

Huh, some of you are still left, huh?

>>381363161

digital is useless on Switch due to the limited space.

Either buy a decent case that can hold games in or keep buying micro sd cards which are even smaller than the games?

>>381373351
AS do os real but only apply to markets where the supplier has a monopoly and used said controlled demand to manipulate the market value of the goods
Example : Diamonds

>>381362776
Pikmin 4 is probably coming out for 2018 as well

>>381372507
What's your problem buddy? You got the wrong door.

>>381370752
>s-stop bullying nintendo!!! STOP!!!

>>381373291
>These people want a reboot
He said remake not reboot. They're two completely different things and I suggest you learn that now.

>and goes open world (implying a new battle system)
You do realise that being open world has nothing to do with the battle system right?

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>Pokemon RPG for Switch

>>381373667
What do you think the mainline pokemon is?? A action adventure?

>>381361480
>American

Do you also clarify when someone is white or a man?

>>381373515
I suppose it makes sense when you're dealing with something that is in limited supply and of a fluctuating value.

But yeah, for a manufactured piece of electronics sold at a fixed price, that you wish for as many people to own as at all possible, it just doesn't make sense. No when it's the software you hope to make bank on.

>>381373610
>turn based battles in an open world
lol

>>381373781
If a crime had been committed, it might be useful information.

On /v/ in general though, it's already heavily implied.

>>381373993
There's absolutely nothing preventing that.

>>381373459
See that's the thing. The games are so fucking small, you can fit your whole library in one game case. Why waste digital space on games you can actually own?

>>381364013
I don't see why not. If they could do it on the fucking DS, they could easily do it on the Switch.

>>381373993
How is that funny? There are tons of games that do that.

>>381374069
Whats the point of making it open world then?
He also said "in the same vein as BOTW," which is absolutely retarded. Pokemon doesn't need stamina management for the player character.
The guy you're defending is just some stupid genwunner nostalgiafag.

>>381374150
Metroid Prime is basically Nintendo's Halo already. Could be neat.

>>381374254
such as...

>>381373993
It can easily work like Okami does.

>literally no footage
fucking DUH its not this year

>>381372259
I'm blown away that anyone thinks BotW could possibly considered rushed.

But then again this is a board of retards.

>>381363294
Eh I'd prefer Splatoon 2 style controls, aim with gyro move with the stick. Camera control on the ground can be handled with the left stick. It's literally perfect

>>381374276
You have crossed so many unrelated elements in this one post.

>Whats the point of making it open world then?
1) to do away with random encounters
2) for player freedom so they can build their team with different Pokemon instead of grind up a pseudo just for the league
3) to regain that element of exploration

>He also said "in the same vein as BOTW," which is absolutely retarded. Pokemon doesn't need stamina management for the player character.
You do realise that there's a difference between world design and mechanics right?

>The guy you're defending is just some stupid genwunner nostalgiafag.
It's less that I'm defending him and more pointing out that you can't read.

>>381364013

Prime 2 had 4-player splitscreen.

Hunters had online multiplayer.

Prime 3 had motion controls with breddy good aiming, and 4 is likely to have both that and old-style controls.

Federation Force was all about online.


I find it extremely unlikely for 4 to NOT include some form of online multiplayer.

>>381374732
>2) for player freedom so they can build their team with different Pokemon instead of grind up a pseudo just for the league
You can do that already, if you rely on just Garchomp or whatever then that's your own fault, not the games.

>>381374880
>You can do that already
You've never been able to do that without trading.
>if you rely on just Garchomp or whatever then that's your own fault, not the games.
God forbid people have favourites that are found in the late game.

>>381374368
All Ultima games before 8 for starters.

>>381365161
Metroid Prime began development in 2000 (however i should mention the engine prototype was ready then), released in 2002, Prime 2 began development after Prime 1 and released in 2004, Prime 3 however took 3 years (2007) however they did release Hunters in 2006.

TL;DR: Prime games take about 2 years, i say this game has been in development since early 2016 so later 2018 sounds reasonable.

>>381373285
Gen 5 was 2 years in most of the world. But gen 7 woukd still be a little shorter. I think gen 7 was just an anniversary gen

>>381375045
>God forbid people have favourites that are found in the late game.
Open world wouldn't change that, if they're meant to be found late game then they would still be too high of a level for the player to catch early on.
Just stop dude, pokemon would never work like that.

>>381375210
>they would still be too high of a level
>what is level scaling

> pokemon would never work like that.
There have been many games that work in such a way anon.

>>381375357
>>what is level scaling
something that doesn't work with pokemon's evolution mechanics.

>>381369050
Dude i have never played a pokemon game but calling it a niche series is the most idiotic thing i have seen on a gaming board this year.

You need to rope yourself.

>>381375426
>something that doesn't work with pokemon's evolution mechanics
There's no reason why it couldn't.
After all it wouldn't be the first time we've seen under leveled evolved Pokemon.

>>381363706
>>381365264
Metroid is about level design, not shooting things.

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>>381371818
>Smash Bros Kerfuffle
>not Super Smash Bros Switchblade

>>381360825
They're going to be rushed pieces of shit aren't they?