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You can say what you want about Nintendo and their fanboys, this looks like it has the better and tighter gameplay with the classic, reliable animations, all the hardcore stuff and most definintely a better monster roster (it's almost perfect).

Styles are 100% optional and you have the same animu shit in World.
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>>381351805
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Zinogre, Barioth, Deviljho, Amatsu, Tigrex, Alatreon, Lagiacrus, the four flagship monsters which are amazing, Rajang, Nargacuga, Uragaan, Agnarok, Shagaru Magala.

Those are fucking great and always fun to fight.
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I want to know how to get Japanese eShop credits without paying a ridiculous markup
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What weapons are confirmed. Are there any new additions?
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>>381352645
Prowler is the only new weapon from the X games
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>>381352645
I think I heard 15 weapons. I'm more curious about the changes that will come with them though, there's no way they can be the same in a game like this.
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Looks pretty sick
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>>381351805
Can someone help me understand this game? Some say its a complete rehash of all the previous games, does that mean that it has all the content from the previous 3ds/Wii games?

I love MH buy I've never owned a nintendo console, is XX the definitive MH experience if I missed those titles?
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>>381351805
But anon the game is already out. Stop being a filthy gaijin piggu and buy the honarable japanese version for the wonderful 3ds.
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>>381353075
If you want all the new shitty styles and being completly gimped if you don't use them sure. But it does have every weapon and monster boasting the biggest roster.
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>30 fps

but why...?
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>>381352969
I'm kinda sad for Capcom on this one. Game has no audience at all, they stand to lose millions. The main team is gonna get bummed out and Capcom won't localize future releases out of spite.
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does it allow for 3ds save importing?
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>>381353310
Keep sync with the 3ds version since they can play together. God eater did the same shit with vita and PS4 cross play.
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>>381353310
Consoles, it's trying to treat each version equally.
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>>381352969
>"Cinematic" zoom
>Over the shoulder camera instead of traditional center

>>381353310
I think that's just the stream quality.
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>>381353382
Agreed
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>>381353382
Feel sorry for yourself, pissbaby.
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>xx stream barely reached 3000 viewers
>world stream hit 70000 before the gameplay even started
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>>381353549
>"Cinematic" zoom
The one new feature I'm really hoping I can turn off
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>>381351805
God this looks so much better than that washed out colorless garbage from MHW.
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>>381351805
Looks so old and outdated.
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>>381353549
Agreed just look at this, so cinematic and horrible
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>>381353382
>MH5 doesn't even have a release date
>"I'm sad that it sold so poorly I'm worried about MH6"
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>>381353640
Gee, maybe because one is a new game and people want to see what it's like.
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>>381351805
One trailer is meant for Japanese players, the other is for a Western audience that doesn't exist. I'm skeptical about Worlds, but the trailer itself was god fucking awful, especially with how half of it is just the hunter walking around with his back turned to the monster. I'm still looking forward to both though.
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>>381351805
Oh god that webm looks like absolute shit what are you even thinking?
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>>381351805
Oh NOW you all like XX lmao
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>>381353640
>XX stream
>show a bunch of things no one cares about
>take 5 to 10 minute breaks every 5 to 10 minutes
>showing MHW before showing XX
What a shit stream.
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XX Switch -vs- MHW PS4

Which has the most sales after a year released?(only counting sales from the Switch version of XX, and the PS4 version of MHW)
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>>381353754
So true, MHW is all washed out
>>381354074
MHXX
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>>381352070
>Zinogre
>fun to fight
lol what
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>>381353831
yeah they want to see the next monster hunter it looks great
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>>381354074
>sales

time to close this tab
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>>381354074
Depends on how long the PC version of MHW and international version of XX are delayed. Impatient people will get the PS4 version of MHW.
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XX is pure trash, just as bad as MHW. it all went to shit after FU.
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>>381353549

All that intro shit is probably just the tutorial. Pretty much anytime you run into a new monster in village quests in any MH game, there is a short cutscene that plays when you reach the area they are in. This is the same kind of shit.
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>>381354242
Not trying to turn discussion into a console -vs- debate. I'm genuinely curious if MHW will be able to outpace XX, considering it's an attempt at doing something *different*.

I plan on buying both, but want to know how other fans of the series feel.
>>381354424
I don't have a ps4 yet, so I'll have to wait. but I could see a lot of people doing just this, to avoid having to wait too long.
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>>381353310
Same as World. It's a good question.

Absolutely fucking retarded. Even Tri on Wii and 3U were 40-60 FPS. Also 4U. It's a fast frame controlling action game.
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>>381353310
Utter shit games like Souls showed that western fags eat up everything.
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>>381354639
>different
>XX didnt also try the same
>was as we can see not ok with most hunters
>The vast majority of hunters are excited for MHW

I see no issue with MHW im wondering if XX is going to actually sell a few hundred thousand outside of japan lol
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>still not returning to 60 fps
Gen is still a mistake
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>>381353942
How? What I see is amazing gameplay that works perfectly well and has great controls, camera and game design in general (everything concerning the monster and its animation and modelling).

Do you actually know anything about video games?
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>>381355013
Since you were in a coma for the last decade, MH does pretty well on handheld systems outside japan, like on, oh, I dunno, the PSP, 3DS, and potentially Switch.
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>>381354205
If you don't suck and also know how to use fun weapons such as hammer, lance or long sword, he is one of the best monsters in the game, easily. Especially high level versions such as 136+ Apex who rapes everyone from /mhg/ whenever I played with them.

If World doesn't have Zinogre, Deviljho and not even Nargacuga, Lagiacrus or Rajang, let alone Alatreon which is a hundred times better version of Kushala, it can go fuck itself.
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>>381355065
Which Naruto episode is this?
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>>381352969
I'm gonna get this but I'm 100% sure it'll bomb.
>"MHW sold like shit?"
>"I guess the west doesn't want MH"
>MH isn't localized for 15 years
I can see this happening
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>>381354832

Probably because it felt like shit if uncapped and dipped. 4U on a regular 3DS dipped like crazy. No wonder they capped it for X and XX.
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>>381352607
maybe buy an eshop card at a store elsewhere in the world and then use the code on the eshop?
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>>381353802
>>381353571
>>381352969
Goddamn, this looks incredible. I can't wait.
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>tfw you own a PS4 and a Switch and will buy and enjoy both XX and World

I don't get all the salt, both games look fun, XX for its portability weeb style shit and World cause it's next gen MH weeb animu shit
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>>381355592
Yeah but it ran great on N3DS, except for Apex effects every three minutes sometimes. And there is no excuse on PC/PS4 anymore.

Stop eating shit.
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Which should I get: Worlds or XX?
I know Japanese so it wouldn't be a problem importing and I have all current-gen consoles + a gaming PC.
I only want one though because splitting time between two fuck-huge games warrants no progress in either.
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>>381355706
You never played MH and are just a console warrior, right? You fight the same monsters 200 times. Imagine doing this shit over and over again instead of just having a tight fight with an even location.
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>>381355989
None if you want to signal Capcom that we want a worthy MH3 sequel. Both if you're rationalistic and know it's hopeless anyway.
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>>381355875
poorfags gonna poor, got a good pc and switch, gonna play both and if rainway turns out to be good shit i'll play mhw on my switch anyway. still apprehensive at mhw tho
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>>381354074
I'd say Worlds solely because XX is selling fairly well in Japan on the 3DS as it is.
But that doesn't mean that Worlds will sell well.
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>>381355989
Get XX, it's clearly the superior game
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>>381355561
Then you just import, like literally everyone did with P3rd, still one of my favourite hunting memories with adhoc party and that small tight-nit English community. I think I ended up putting around 1.5k hours into P3rd.
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>>381355886

There is 0 news about PC performance and I highly doubt there is anyway they can enforce a frame cap especially in the MT framework engine. PS4 and Xbone I can see because of their online environment with their higher end Pro and XBoneX versions. I don't know the technical details but I imagine there would have been issues in multiplayer with split FPS caps between the two camps.
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>>381355989
XX is more of a traditional MH game so go for that I guess.
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>>381355992
>being hyped for a game makes a console warrior
Wut?

Also, I've played Freedom Unite, 3 Ultimate on WiiU, and 4 Ultimate on n3DS. I'm glad we're finally getting a next gen Monhun on consoles, as 3 Ultimate on WiiU was my fave.
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>>381355989
Wait till we see more of Worlds. We already know what XX is going to be like, yet we still don't know everything about Worlds.

Honestly I would get XX only if you already played X, you can transfer data from X so you don't have to grind for early game stuff all over again.
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>>381354074
>Caring about which does better
You stop being a bitch and buy both, if XX gets localised.
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Wew

HD Fox Pussi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXeOpj3RWI
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>>381356092
>>381354074

Doesn't seem fair to compare the sales between the two. You have MHXX which has already been on in Japan on 3ds for awhile now, will be coming out on Switch in Japan in August and so if it comes out in the West, you would need to compare all iterations of MHXX and not just Western MHXX sales compared to MHW being a new thing and released on multiple platforms whereas MHXX will be on the Switch/3DS

This whole situation just feels so shitty
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>>381355065
What the fuck was that after longsword?
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>>381352070
>no Steve
>no BrachyDIOs
You got it wrong, try again.
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>>381351876
World needs to boost the saturation this isn't gen 7
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>>381356341
So you are braindead. No one with half a brain would say those webms that show scripted shit and some Naruto super attack looks amazing.
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>>381356402
>This whole situation just feels so shitty
Duh, it's Capcom.
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>>381356476
looked like a Prowler(Palico) doing some big combo attack, the bomb barrel launcher thing is some new MHXX hunter art and then the final thing looks like a great sword hunter art thing.

Never played MHXX but I know of those things, just waiting on a MHXX localized version ;_;
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>>381356194
No way that isn't sarcasm with this webm.
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>>381356546
Maybe you're just jaded anon cause for the most part I enjoyed the gameplay of World I saw
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>>381354074
hmm
a port of the G version of a spinoff to a console that just launched thats only in japan
or a new generation launching on 3 consoles at once worldwide
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>hookshot is op
>stealth is pretty fucking op based on the reveal trailer
>mounting is super easy and the hookshot makes it even more casual
>can use hookshot to mount or re-mount if knocked off monster
>changing gear from any camp
>fast travel between camp
>fast travel all over the map
>extreme focus on environmental damage and monster distractions because those two things do way more damage than a hunter ever could
>giant green fireflies which track all the resources and monster hunts
>monster heart beat sensor
>anime garbage from X is still in
>paid online

R.I.P
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>>381355989
XX
I'm not a fanboy, I'm even buying World, but if you want the raw MH experience then go with XX.
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>>381356293
This would make the PC version the 500 times better game, though.

Wouldn't it mess with iframes dodging and stuff, though?

>>381356498
>Brachydios
>that disgusting, time-wasting gimmick
>literally no openings for slower weapons unless you are very lucky and autistic, way too easy for DB
>equipment single-handedly ruined MH3U
>that shit tier design
Please end your life.
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>>381356667
Or, you know, the could have released XX in all regions THIS year.
And then Worlds NEXT year ensuring you don't fuck over the only western support you have.

You know, like a normal company.
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>>381353483
But the 3ds versions were always 60fps. It was the WiiU port of 3U that was 30 fps, unless you played on the gamepad where it was 60.
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>>381356632
Oh fuck I didn't even notice it was a Palico
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>>381356559
I know, I just don't want this horrible thing to be happening to my sweet baby boy Monster Hunter.

I've been playing these games for 11 years and enjoyed each one of them for at least 300 hours each. I just want the franchise to maintain its steady incline in sales while sticking true to its gameplay but MHW seems to be shaking up the core gameplay with its additions and it worries me.
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So XX never for us englishcucks?
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>>381353640
>XX is already out
>XX has already been shown off so we already know what it'll look like
its baffling how braindead console warriors are
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Does anyone else like the ideas of Deviants? not saying subspecies are cool, but the idea of regular species monsters surviving to get new abilities is pretty neat

Deviants and subspecies should return in 5th gen
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>>381355992
>never played MH
>console warrior
>PS2, PS3, PS4, Wii, Wii U, Xbox 360
Fuck off newfag.
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>>381356806
>It was the WiiU port of 3U that was 30 fps, unless you played on the gamepad where it was 60.
MH3U was around 45 FPS on Wii U, GamePad and TV. GamePad "mode" is just streaming what you see on TV, it doesn't change anything.
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>>381351805
graphically it looks like a Wii game
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>>381353640
DELETE THIS
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>>381356546
Looked better than Generations to me.
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>>381356890
Deviant set 1&2 $7.99
Subspecies set 1&2 $9.99
Elder Dragon set 1 $5.99
Elder Dragon set 2 $8.99
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Nice that they port XX now, months after i stop caring.
They should really nerf absolute readiness for this release at least, and make the game less of a joke,
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>>381356852
Make a japanese NID on your switch so you can download it instead and not pay for import prices.
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>The game I can play looks way better and I don't even want to play the other one its so lame haha NINTENDOMINATION RIGHT GUYS??
Great thread OP.
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>>381356726
>nintendofag lying again
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>>381357036
Well, you're just quoting the webm of a 3DS game and a low quality Youtube video.
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>>381356546
>Shitposts about Naruto supers
>In fucking XX
Jesus Christ
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>>381356839
>shaking up core gameplay

Did we watch the same gameplay? Cause it looks just like classic MH made for new consoles
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>MHW
>most tweeted game of E3
>failing

I don't think so Tim
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>>381353571
>It's treason, then
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>>381356726
>stealth is pretty fucking op based on the reveal trailer

t. person who never steath bombed
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>>381357128
>giving Capcom money
I'd pay $100 if it meant they don't get their hands on it.
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>>381354934
that's Bloodborne. Souls has accurate hitboxes and tight controls
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>>381356857
yeah they bought the nintendo switch, its like they didnt learn with the wiiu
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>>381357219
>fell off the amazon top 100 sales chart after a couple days
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>>381357164
>le lying
>le console war
it has damage numbers, a kind of health bar, visualized sharpening bar and a lot more. You had to get used and understand those things with experience back then. Now it's all there. An equalizer to make noobs and good players even. Who would want this? Exactly, the noobs.

Same with all that scripted shit and mounting.
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>>381357227
>stealth bombing
>over sleep bombing
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>>381353571
>Tfw saved money for the upcoming 4k HDR 144Hz monitors and GTX 2080
>TFW Mh World will just come in time

PC masterrace always wins baby
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>>381357258
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>>381357219
>>most tweeted game of E3
Sauce?
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>>381357258
>DaS
>tight controls
>press dodge before getting hit
>get combo'd
>characters still decides to dodge without further input
>die
So tight
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>>381357258
If you have very low standards, yes.

>those retarded controls for archery and jumping/running
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>>381356546
I've been playing monster hunter with my friend for 8 years, and we still regularly go back and play freedom unite on emulators. When we want to do 'tight fights' we just play that.

The core game play looks like it is all there, and I'm excited to do stupid shit with my friends. My fucking eyes hurt playing 3ds games, so this is a very welcome change.
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>>381355251
It should bring back Tri level Barioth.
It was still a fun fight in 3U and its new hipcheck hurt like hell, but it was one of the harder monsters in Tri.
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>>381357219
>>MHW
>>most tweeted game of E3
You mean Mario Odyssey.
Which was trending 4 different times with one being New Donk City specifically.
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>>381357128
Id rather not memorize
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>>381351805
So am I going to be allowed to discuss MHW when it comes out or has the hivemind damned it to the ninth circle of hell?
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>>381353894
Exactly how I felt watching the E3 trailer. I really wish that they had shown more with it because while it showed off plenty of the new mechanics and changes it failed to show the actual core gameplay staples of monster hunter, which combined with how their Twitter PR guys were talking about "westernizing" the game it had me pretty worried until I saw the stream yesterday.
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>>381355697
>without paying a ridiculous markup
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>>381357384
>implying you'll be able to uncap the fps
>the physics will be tied to fps and if you tried to uncap it, it will break
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>>381357565
Say that again?
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>>381357095
this is capcom. why sell dlc when you can resell the whole game?

>Not MHWUltimate for 59.99
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>>381357391
>>381357443
>>381357418
ah yes, people that need to git gud. As always.
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>>381357443
Literally only NeoGAF believes From games are anything but 5/10 at best. Stop posting it here.

>>381357563
That zig-zag move was a boot too similar to Nargacuga, probably, and they don't want this. So Narga stays the more challenging monster since it was a flagship once and Barioth is basically Gobul level now.
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>>381357443
Why do you always post this webm? You take damage exactly when part of the spear hits you.
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>>381357717
>not selling DLC and then making another game with that DLC for full price with only three new monsters
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>>381357684
>first tweets
>now it's youtube views
Pick one and stick with one. Also the reason why the spider-man trailer had that many views was because Marvel uploaded and tricked people into thinking it was a trailer for the upcoming movie.
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>>381357725
>getting good at bad game design and 30 FPS spam: the game
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>>381355561
It might be able to sell 4U numbers outside Japan, which is about as good as it will ever get for monster Hunter overseas
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>>381356797
>that disgusting, time-wasting gimmick
>literally no openings for slower weapons unless you are very lucky and autistic
You listed harder monster and now you complain about the Brachy, Git gud gayboi, this monster good to fight with every weapon.
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>>381357801
No, he doesn't. And there are thousands of webms showing bad Souls hitboxes, don't motivate people posting them here, please.
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>>381356726
>>changing gear from any camp
>>giant green fireflies which track all the resources and monster hunts

I can see how some people are skeptical about the game and raise valid concerns, but I do NOT understand when people honestly say these are two bad things.

Psychoserum is very much a thing. Sometimes when chain hunting with friends I fuck up and bring the wrong stuff, so now I have to make everyone abandon and go through 3 loading screens? How does that make it any less difficult?

I swear, if they let you change your equipment in the same room as the hunting board you shitters will cry about it not being "traditional"
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>>381357725
I got a gud video game instead and it was called Demon's Souls.
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>>381357824
>>381357867
>the game is bad because I'm bad at the game
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>>381351805
MHX and XX are literally the equivalents of a "Best of" episode of a sitcom.
Styles are almost completely superficial and it just feels like MH4 2.
Glad I didn't buy this shit.
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>>381357883
I doubt that, even with advertising the series doesn't sell particularly well in the west.
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>>381351805
Looks awesome. I'll be importing it if they never localize
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>>381357684
Why do sonycoons constantly lie?
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>>381353382
At least we're getting this. I've been dying for MH updated for HD consoles since the thing migrated to handhelds.
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>>381356505
>vignetting
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True Monster Hunter won't be back until the right analog stick attacks are back.
The real casual filter.
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>>381358073
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>>381357991
>giant green waypoint indicator is not a bad thing
Fuck off retard.
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Monster Hunter threads are gonna stay shitty like this forever, aren't they?
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>>381358167
>my ms.paint picture will surely prove my point

mad cuz bad
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>>381355065
As someone who has only played the original on PS2 and the first Freedom, this looks like animu bullshit.
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>>381357146
I can play both but I'd rather play XX based on footage from both games
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>>381358297
Yep.
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>>381353802
wtf he stops midair to grab that vine
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>>381358324
>>381358324
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>>381358097
Hey anon? What's 8 million + 13 million?
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>>381357824
>no effort put into it
The funny thing about this is it's 100% true and there are so many devs that just proved EVERY SHIT DEVELOPER can make Souls. It basically pioneered a new genre; the auto-target, circle-strafing genre with otherwise zero effort.

The Surge, Nioh, Fallen something, Memory Of Eldurim and a lot more. And the funny thing almost all of them even do many things better, especially The Surge did so many actually awesome things THAT I'D ALSO LOVE TO SEE IN MONSTER HUNTER. For example how you can just skip crafting levels and can level your gear up straight to the max level when you have the needed materials already and don't ever have to farm low rank shit again when you are already 5,000 hours in. Or how you equip the whole full armor of a set by keeping the button pressed for a few seconds.
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>XX still looks like the oversaturated garbage that 4 introduced
EUGH
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>>381358206
better and more lore friendly than whatever the fuck paintballs and psychoserum are
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>>381358297
3 different points of view and none of them are up for discussion.... Yep is gonna suck.
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>>381358448
>2016
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>>381358448
>e3 2016
Wow, nice one you fucking idiot nigger.
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>>381357951
I don't complain because he is hard, I complain because he isn't fun. EVER having to stop fighting so you can take this shitty item or roll three times because of his gimmick is fucking anti-fun, his animations are completely broken and seem "laggy" (yes, even offline) and he's just ugly with ugly equipment.
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>>381358448
>>381358097
>more than double the number of views of Odyssey combined

BTFO
T
F
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>>381358503
>melee combat in a futuristic game

into the trash it goes
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>>381358448
>2016
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>>381358507
It looks better than world's style imo
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>>381358448
about 13 million less than 10 million + 24 million
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>>381353894

the E3 trailer was a scripted cinematic piece of shit not indicative of actual gameplay, the same for most games shown at E3
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>>381356194
>no blood spill
>but dammage number and rocks instead
Fuck this
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>>381358073
It's bad, shut up. Your shenanigans work in Zelda threads or whatever kind of threads but not here. This is a Monster Hunter thread.

Even when just fighting fucking Royal Ludroth and other shit tier monsters, Monster Hunter still has more satisfying and more varied combat than Souls which is literally just tilting stick to right or left and pressing dodge button when enemy attacks. No positioning, nothing.

>b-but my awesome level design with ladders and le shortcuts
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>>381351805
how retarded nintodlerss are ? sorry but i played xx and any other mh game and its just fucking trash in 2017, mh:w improves everything about MH and no amount of butthurt of nintodlers and retards will change it
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>>381358206
you're right, paintball maintenance and a map taking up 30% of your screen is superior
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>>381358724
Damage number can be disabled.

Hell, they even confirmed that you can replace the English or Japanese VO with classic MH gibberish if you're severely autistic.
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>>381357214
you know what? I'll give you that. Alot of this is my fear of change and the effects it could have on the rest of the franchise.

Grappling hook seems too good and as far as we know, we don't have much details on it. It seems like it would give you too much distance both horizontal and vertically and would seem like a "get out of jail free" card if a monster was breathing down your neck and going balls out on you. Usually that situation would require you to be running and doing superman dives at the right time and escape this situation.

Tracking is now a big thing as shown by the bugs, and I'm hearing unconfirmed rumors that monster spawns are now randomized meaning it would be much more annoying to find monsters the old fashioned way so people who didn't like the bugs(i.e. Me) would be at a disadvantage for not using them. I didn't see a paintball being used in the demo and while that doesn't confirmed its removal, seeing it would at least let me feel as if my classic methods were still viable. Check monster spawns, engage monster, paintball, enjoy the hunt.

Also, the fast travel, camp letting you change equipment and the environment seemingly provides you with everything you would need now so it feels as if it doesn't punish you for being unprepared now. Yes, I can see how those things would be a quality of life improvement, I just feel that it teaches the new players a bad lesson that other monster hunter games would teach them otherwise. I got both of my friends into MH with MH4U and one learned to be prepared, while the other constantly forgot to change weapons, eat a meal, bring items or traps. MHW will just teach him that stuff is fine and acceptable.

I think i have more grievances but I need to make some breakfast and water some plants friend, so I'll collect my thoughts. Hopefully you don't just call me a nintenbro and to fuck off.
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>>381358661
But a few weapons can actually shoot huge plasma beams and your Drone's shots are very powerful too.
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>>381358520
>>381358790
t. casual shits

>lore friendly
what the fuck is this, dark souls?
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>>381358790
>/v/ likes handholding now
interesting
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Third gen best gen
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>>381358503
surge...good... you just made everything you say pointless lie
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>>381358774
any Souls player can stroll through any MH game in their sleep. Let MH players play a Souls game and watch them cry and rage like the unskilled fags they are
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>>381357214
>>381358830
Don't forget that drinking a potion and eating meat slows you to like 80% of walk speed which is more than enough to dodge a lot of incoming shit (specially if they fixed the hitboxes even more).
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>>381358928
Just like how every one shat on anime moves in X/XX but as soon as they were shown off in MHW is was fine.
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>>381358928
/v/ is predominantly Sonygro, what did you expect?
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>>381358790
>paintball maintenance
You don't have to use paintballs. Watch the shadow when it flies. The whole point is that you have to find the monster first.
>map taking up 30% of your screen
You can change that you know.
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>>381358950
don't mind me, i'm just here to watch 10 other people reply to this obvious bait
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>>381358905
It's the fanbase Capcom seems to want
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>>381358982
Healing while moving is almost as fast as max running speed. It hardly slows down anything.
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>>381358503
Surge is literally the most underrated game of this decade. It's kinda sad, actually.

>>381358946
Well, compared to other Souls like shit and Souls shit itself it's actually very fresh and yeah, good. Things that were already named, also complex level design with shortcuts everywhere and some actual verticality that allows you to climb everything while you can't even climb over fences in Souls and it's basically just backgrounds.
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>>381357365
Bowgun actually looks fun for once.
It's always been awkward to play because of one stick.
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>>381358520
>lore friendly
Kill yourself already. Nobody gives a shit about MH lore.
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>>381351805
>better monster roster
>no molten tigrex
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>>381358724
blood is has been confirmed every thread, it's just subtle and not ridiculous anymore
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>>381358801
>MH gibberish if you're severely autistic.

And I am. I didn't hear about that yet. Hells yeah.
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>>381358520
>lore friendly
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>>381358297
Gotta love Nin-ten-yearolds
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>>381359048
>MH
>let me just upgrade to some bullshit armor set and weapon by killing the same Monster 5 million times
>Souls
>farming won't change the fact that you're shit and are going to get raped by most bosses if you don't know how to play
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>>381358801
WHERE IS MY BLOOD
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>>381358950
Dude, webm related is the hardest super bonus boss of 3 and literally all you have to do is tilt stick to left or right, press 30 frames dodge button when he is about to attack, hit him twice, repeat. And the checkpoint is right before the fight.

I actually and literally bet both my balls that NO Souls fanboy here on 4chan could EVER defeat a 140 Apex Zinogre, even as a team of two people. Probably even four people. Probably not even the hot monkey dick (he is very hard, people with 500 hours of playtime just got used to him so they think he is easy).
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>>381358905
>casual
great argument
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>>381351805
>you have animu shit in World
I like the Styles and Arts but the hammer spin is the only anime thing we've seen so far and it's not as bad as shit like this.
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>>381358790

>not putting your map on the bottom screen
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>>381351805
>all the hardcore stuff
>posts a webm of brave style
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>>381359130
>>381359208
lore friendly as in makes sense or isn't fucking magic

autistic cunts
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>>381359284
>yes just let the game play itself, who cares? fucking nintendofags there's nothing wrong with casual give me waypoints and health bars!!!!!
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>>381359309
This is optional, that hammer trash isn't.
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>>381359309
Or this.
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>>381356797

That is what I am concerned about. I am not sure the MH team knows enough about modern systems to make it fool proof when doing shit like uncapping frames. Can you imagine a DS2 debacle where weapons would lose durability ridiculously fast depending on the frames of collision with the environment/monster?
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>>381359309
You're right, it's far worse because it can be done on a whim.
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>>381359309
It is considering it's a heavy as fuck hammer. We've also seen long sword moon jumping already.
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>>381358982
ah, yeah that too!

I heard people spouting on about how the animations and what not of the monster will be so much more fluid than on "shitty ps1 handheld hardware 3ds barffff nintendoshit" but they don't appear to be. Rathalos still has his 45 degree angle turns, T-rex thing still turns like Deviljho so that means that the player would still be able to learn the openings of the monster and do the Drink+Flex animation.
Having to waste an opening to attack to heal yourself was a nice consequence to the player because they were hit, nothing that would ruin the hunt. Just something to make them watch as the monster was wide open to attack but to be powerless to take advantage because you got hit by the monster previously.

I could accept the healing while moving thing if they severely reduced the movement while doing so. feels like they are trying to go more of a Dark Souls look and feel but even in DS3, you move like 90% of your movement speed while chugging estus so the same should go for MH.

ok, NOW I'm done. thanks for reminding me of the healing thing. that was the one major grievance i couldn't remember
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dark souls is more unforgiving but MH has more depth and requires more skill. theyre both good though
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>>381359378
>sentient green flying bugs that float around and track monsters
>not magic and makes sense
Okay.
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>>381359271
Champion is harder than Nameless.
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>>381359420
>>381359409
>>381359389
>people who like Generations are now acting like something not even as extreme is a problem
You double standards fucks are just desperate for reason to be mad.
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>>381358950
>I frames souls
one of the main reasons people hate the new games is I-frames you casual faggot

I've played the shit out of souls and there's no replayability after you learn a boss
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>>381359271
shut the fuck up. Back when I played Freedom Unite on my PSP when I was like 13 years old I completed all G-Rank quests designed for parties of 2+ alone because there was no one around who owned a PSP with MH.

The game is piss easy.
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>>381359309
We saw a LS jump slash too.
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>>381359243
bleh blah blah blah blaah blaahh bleh blah
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>>381359406
>monster uses wreckage as a puppet
That's pretty fucking awesome to be honest.
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>>381359378
Flying faeries are also magic.
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>>381359406
That's fucking cool and I wish they brought that monster back in MHW. That's one way of being different without changing core mechanics of the game: just change the setting and what you fight.
I wouldn't mind a cyberpunk MH.
Or heck a gothic MH with armor like Bloodborne.
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>>381359382
>play itself
how is it any more "playing itself" than psychoserum or paintballs

the maps are far bigger and the chances of you running into the monster are far less

is your suggestion to then keep it the way it is? because you would be fucking stupid if that were the case
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>>381358297
Only until MHW is out for a year and everyone treats it like just another entry.
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>>381359406
World and X are both trash.

3 was the last very good Monster Hunter with actual effort and atmosphere. Call me a Nintenbabby, I don't care. It tried. And it gave us some of the best monsters with Jho and Alatreon who is the most complex elder dragon. Also Jhen which just felt amazing the first 10 times. And actually good online mode with chatting and a decent 100 men lobby.

Only plebs whine about swimming, too.

>that night Mova VIllage atmosphere

It just lacked content, that's all.
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>>381359243
Source?
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>>381359515
No, I dislike Generations as well, autistic cuck. But at least Gen's shit is optional.
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>>381359592
>>381359627
>/v/ hates on anime shit added to X and XX for months
>but now it's suddenly okay because it gives them an excuse to fuel their World hateboner
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>>381359406
Hey now thats cool as fuck, but man the graphics are terrible.
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>>381359409
The hammer spin is only possible at full charge and after sliding down a slope. It's pretty situational.
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>>381359515
>not even as extreme
>Anime weeb trash attacks are now standard attacks of a weapon
>don't require charge
>not as extreme
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>>381359476
yea, less magic than whatever psychoserum is or how you could track paintballed monsters

do you have an actual argument or are you just going to keep quoting me as if it's self evident?
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>>381359720
>dat fucking armor design

And in Tri it was actually a fucking good armor.
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>>381359752
Barely anyone disliked that monster when it was revealed. Better than arts and styles which change the way you fight and not what you fight.
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>>381352070
>Anything from Gen 1 or 2 outside of Narga and the reworked Diablos and raths.
>Fun to fight
Pick one
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>>381359751
The most common argument for Gen's shit has always been it's not really optional if you want to beat monsters quickly and this has been a common argument whenever it's brought up. But NOW suddenly it's "actually optional" because you fucks will change your story if it means blindly hating a game before it's out.
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>>381359609
they're bugs that track a monster through smell

as opposed to a potion giving you real time gps coordinates, or a paintball doing the same
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>>381359827
Best locations. Even and just focussed on the fights. No ledges everywhere.

3 was the last great MH. Bonus points because I met a girl in it that literally lived 10 minutes from me and let me fuck her ass, even though she had a boyfriend back then.
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>>381359548
You don't know shit about G rank unless you play naked and only use boomerangs, faggot
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>>381359720
>call me a nintenbabby
no, that's the autists who liked the game turning into frontier
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>>381359864
This is the reason why 3U is still, imo, much better than 4U which brought back a bunch of annoying 1st and 2nd gen mons and barely any from 3rd gen. I fucking hated cephadrome in 4U, or any drome really.
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>>381359878
>has always been it's not really optional if you want to beat monsters quickly
And every single time it's brought up someone always proves that that standard play is far quicker especially when making use of more traditional tactics like sleep bombing
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>>381359952
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>>381356667
the comparison was switch version against the ps4 release of mhw. considered that every mh on nintendo has been localized, it's not unlikely that it will move over to the states soon enough and give mhw a run.

i'm also leaning more towards mhxx since switch owners will be desperate for big releases when it launches.
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>>381359918
Source? Also it's still magic bullshit so I don't know how you're trying to say it makes more sense for the lore. None of the shit posted ITT is "lore friendly". This isn't fucking dark souls.
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Am I so sick and tired of Switchspergs shitting on MHW.

You guys are seriously trying your best to become the most cancerous community on /v/.
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>>381359878
>blindly
There are already a fuckton of red flags and shit to complain. Go to your home Reddit if you want blind praise. And that complain about killing things faster only applies to TAs, not regular play.
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>>381359720
>Jhen
I never liked jhen, but I only ever fought him solo. Ceadeus was also miserable

I agree about everything else though loved the atmosphere in 3.
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>>381360052
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>>381359998
why would I play my PSP naked.
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>would've liked MonHun World on Switch because I have to travel between two areas for my job now
If it turns out good I'll just buy it on PC but I'm a bit bummed since I won't be able to play it as often as I do with the 3DS ones.
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>>381358609
the nuclear brachy is still one of my fight, I gess the fun is subjective too.
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>>381359952
>3 was the last great MH
sorry, but I think you meant to type mh4u. and ledges gave players a unique way to approach battles, so not sure why you have an issue with them.
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>>381360121
>m-muh console war
Fuck off, you're the only cancer here.
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>>381360121
>The MH fanbase is now comprised of only Switchfags
Yeah sure.
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>>381355561
No, it's up to Nintendo the save the franchise and then Sony swoops in to ruin it again.

Just look at the history of Resident Evil where this happened. Twice.
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>>381358405

He uses the slinger.
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>>381359918
Fuck you I want my psychic skill not some weird lore breaking bugs
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So does /v/ suddenly love Generations/X garbage now or what?
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>>381356505
Holy kek, now it suddenly looks less impressive graphically.
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I like most of what we've seen so far. A lot of these posts lead me to believe people weren't around to see World's leaked gameplay prior to the Japanese demo where it was mainly pure multiplayer combat and gameplay that was the standard affair.
World is likely going to be the game everyone but /v/ likes just as Generations was that until people decided to change their minds to shit on World. But this community always has a cycle of hating the newest game before release, dating back to 4 or even 3.
Considering how it's nearly all shitposting, falseflagging, and blind hateboners, I still think MH threads need to be contained to /vg/ until release.
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>>381360121
>it's the switches fault

both sides are cancerous
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>>381360270
Apparently anime shit is okay now because MHW has it too.
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>>381359864

That is my biggest complaint with X and XX. While 4U brought back some annoying shit, X and XX went full retard with the nostalgia pandering. No one wants to deal with those shit ass g1 and g2 zones and monsters and villages. NO ONE WANTS TO TALK TO RANDOM ASS NPCS IN EVERY VILLAGE ALL THE TIME. Fuck off B team. I still enjoy some gen2 stuff like Tigrex and variants though.
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>>381360151

>>381360218
>unique way to approach battles
>tilt stick forward and press attack button mid-air to inflict a little damage

Not worth blocking you all the time, making playing hammer or gun lance a pain in the ass and autists online camping on them.
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>>381360280
>Considering how it's nearly all shitposting, falseflagging, and blind hateboners
Wow, how did you fit all of that in your ass?
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>>381356839
>I just want the franchise to maintain its steady incline in sales
It's been on a decline since it left the PSP.
This is good, it'll inject some fresh blood into the franchise.
I'm tired of looking at the same models all the time.
Besides, it's coming out for 3 of the most popular platforms, it's gonna do fine.
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I'm hyped for this new Dragon's Dogma
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>>381359720

Why 3 and not 4? 3 is the only MH I haven't played because underwater battles sound like a fucking nightmare.
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>>381360089
source for what? that the scout flies are tracking things???

>it's still magic bullshit
again, it's far less "magic" than the aforementioned items, having an in game explanation for something is better

>lore friendly
again, lore friendly was a colloquial for the feel of the game. Obviously monster hunter has no lore, but if a fucking alien showed up in a space ship and started assfucking a ghost on your screen, it wouldn't fit the game
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>>381360364
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>>381360413
Not that I don't believe you, but source?
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>>381359827
That's what I like about XX, it actually had a cosmetic armour system so good-looking armour didn't have to be trashed because of bad skills.

I hope that returns in MHWorld.
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>>381360170

The men we are sending up are the brightest and best that we have. They also SHIT in zero G for no reason.
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>>381360275
when everything is grey its all gonna blend together. They probably did it intentionally to cover up the fact environments don't look much better than shit that was on handhelds
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>>381360413
Nintendo platforms are the most popular and most important
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>>381360435
underwater killed tri for me. not even the most autistic fan can defend that shit.
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>>381360443
No the scout flies tracking through smell you fuck.
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>>381360270
Most of /v/ always loved it, just not as much as the others.
It's the same shit with Dark Souls. Almost everyone prefers DS1 and calls the other two garbage but they're still leagues better than the majority of games in the market.
So everyone is now worried if MHW will be a game like the past MH or just part of the "majority of games in the market" that don't come close.
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>>381360435
Because of the things mentioned in the post you quoted, also no cancer graphics, GOOD online mode with keyboard support and 100 men lobby, big, even locations instead of crammed shit with ledges everywhere. 4 is the more polished and modern gameplay but 3 was just more "perfect" and better for its time.
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>>381360121
It's not our fault MHW is going to bomb since Japanese companies can't learn that trying to pander to the West always ends in failure.
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>>381360482
Literally takes what's great about MH armors; their personality. And you're also way happier when you actually manage to make an armor with good skills that also looks good, which is possible in all MH games if you have the right talisman.

It's a horrible feature.
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>>381351805
ITT
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>>381360405
Don't pretend to be blind, faggot. There's constant MH threads and they all go the same way since World's release
>wow I hate these totally legitimate and not shitposter Sony fans/Nintendo fans ruining the threads
>insert obvious falseflag of someone lamenting the game not being on Switch that people fall for
>insert obvious falseflag of a standard goldenface post that people fall for
>insert one of a hundred logical fallacies
>no discussion of the actual game or the series allowed because bringing it up has the same aggressive posts that 4 used to incite
These threads haven't been what they used to be the past week or so.
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>>381360545
I don't remember where I heard it, but how is that not obvious?

you point out markings and give them shit like monster snot
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>>381360413
No one is going to buy this shit on Xbox, PC is a big hit or miss, and sonyfags don't buy games that aren't the yearly sports or fps rehash. The most popular console MH was Tri on the Wii and it only sold 1 million in japan when there were 12 million wii owners. There are only 4 million PS4 owners in Japan and there aren't any PS4 games that sold more than 1 million copies over there.
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>>381360413
>It's been on a decline since it left the PSP.
Uh, no.
What you fail to realise is that the PSP games were bloated with about 3 rereleases for each game in japan. And by rereleases I don't mean Ultimate versions I mean the exact same game.

With that said MH has been selling steadily in the 4m range without the need for releases since it left.
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>>381360459
>>381360364
>>381360151
>>381360052
>>381359952
Why does this look better than World?
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>>381360702
it's a great time to not be a nintentoddler
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>>381360462
Freedom 3 is the highest selling MH of all time.
Nothing after has beaten it.
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>>381355251
>Zinogre, Deviljho
These two are a probably certainty I hope. They've been in each MH game since 3rd Gen, and it would be wierd if the were excluded on World. I hope Capcom doesnt think World needs an exclusive new batch of monsters with a "Western appeal" in mind, while ignoring old favorites.
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P3rd is still the best game, prove me wrong fags
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>>381360758
So you said it without anything to prove it? So it isn't confirmed? Okay then dumb ass. By your logic the paintballs do the same thing so then they're just as lore friendly as the fucking bugs.
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>>381360702
>15 fps
The worst of them was gen which was at 30fps. MH4U and MH3U both ran at 40-60fps which is more than MHW will ever run on consoles, maybe on pc.
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>>381360459
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>>381360835
because they tricked people into thinking it has more content than it actually had
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Reminder that all current Mon Hun threads are now kill. you're better off just ignoring them.
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>>381360785
>selling steadily
also known as stagnation and bad from a business perspective
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>>381360696
Nobody forces you to use it, you can still clownsuit if you want to. But since low rank and G rank armours generally have different models, 50% of the game's armour designs are wasted since you'll never use them after low rank. How do you think that's a good thing?
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>>381360765
I thought MH was supposed to be a console seller. Whatever happened to that?
When it's XX coming out on the switch you say it's gonna sell a bunch of switches, but if it's coming out on the PS4, then it'll flop because no one is going to buy a new console for it.
Make up your mind.
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>>381360270
Of course.
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>>381360912
>maybe on pc.
there is no fps limit on pc, its uncapped
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>>381360912
>mh4u ran at 40-60fps
as long as you shelled out for your new New 3DSâ„¢ like a good goy

4u ran like dogshit on the o3ds
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>>381360431
Kinda funny how it looks like it even shares the same color palette. I think they're using the exact same modified MT Framework engine for this. Even the animations look Dogmafied.
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>>381360789
Art direction and color palette
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>tfw can't be allowed to like XX and be excited for World because people are insisting on splitting the fanbase in two
I've liked and enjoyed every Monster Hunter game. But god forbid I'm not like the rest of the fanbase following the pattern of shitting on every new release before it's out, seeing as how this is far from the first time.
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>>381360789
Color and saturation. Everything in World shown off so far is the same kind of gray filter.
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>>381360954
>a game selling consistently well is bad
You're not too smart are you.
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>>381360702
>30fps
>no one has even played it yet and feeling smug
>delayed on pc
>using HD as if the switch version won't also be
anon
>calling XX worst mh game to date when tri exist
anon, come on now.
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>>381360789
Because the older graphics style had a charm that "muh realistic graphics" do not. Sure it might look like a ps2 game but it is a look that has a lot more of an unique identity than realistic looking game #215035.
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>>381361014
>4u ran like dogshit on the o3ds
It ran at 30 FPS at all times, nigger.
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>>381361009
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>>381360893
Tri and 3U exist.

Just be happy that it's in the best gen.
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>>381360984
Lol? Monster Hunter always sold like shit on consoles. Are you fucking new? Also the switch is a glorified handheld and MH sells well on handhelds but always sold like shit on consoles. This isn't rocket science.
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>>381360984
MHXX appeals to the MHfanbase.
MHW appeals to an entirely new fanbase that doesn't know what MH really is and isn't particularly interested in it.

On top of that the Nips want the PC version and not the PS4 version.
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>>381357384
>still get 30fps cap no matter how good your rig is
>get delayed release by (probably) months
>miss out on PS4 exclusive content
>highest probability of facing scriptkiddies/hackers and no form of avoiding the usual 'problematic' regions since the server is global

Yeaaaaahh... Thanks but no thanks.
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>>381361130
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>>381360218
I love ledges only because they allow you to sheathe instantly, which is a godsend for me as I play switch axe and lance a lot, plus its really satisfying to do even when it's not necessary.
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>>381361112
Not that anon, but Tri was great. It had barely any content but it was comfy as fuck and it felt a lot fresher than most entries, mostly due to all the new monsters.
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>>381360895
>without anything to prove it
yea, let me just keep this obscure self evident piece of evidence on me so I can prove that the flies are less retarded than magic to some autistic nigger who needs proof of everything

>by your logic the paintballs do the same thing
they explicitly don't, what is keeping track of the paintball mark? a tunnel system of scout gooks on a radio channel? gps tracking device in the paint???

and fuck, even assuming it is magic and is just as retarded, how the fuck is it bad for the game??
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>>381360984
mh4u and mh3u sold quite well, actually. he meant home console mh, while the switch version is clearly a combination of both home and portable.
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>>381361025
They do, when i saw it live i knew it was MonHun but then it was just like DD, i was legit bamboozled. Mainly because i wanted a new Dragon's Dogma
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>>381361059
>I've liked and enjoyed every Monster Hunter game
How was Monster Hunter Diary? I'm thinking about picking it up
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>>381361120
no it didn't. it ran almost always below 30 when anything was happening and dipped during online play and multiple monsters constantly
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>>381361228
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>>381360974
nobody thinks its a good thing, but cosmetics are a bad solution to a balance problem, mostly due to talismans
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>>381361014
it was 30 on the o3ds, which is the exact same as mhw.
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>>381360893
Got about a thousand hours on P3rd, and I'll always fault it for not having G or online matchmaking.

>>381360789
Remember that you're comparing a stream of one area in action to composed shots from about a dozen areas with minimal compression. For each zone with a good looking shot, I can think of two points in that zone which are ugly as fuck.
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>>381361228
what game is this? P3rd?
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>>381361103
>is bad
a lack of expansion of a business is universally regarded as a bad thing, yes
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>>381361341
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>>381361331
Oh would you look at that, the console warrior has no idea what he's talking about, probably because he never played the game before.
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>>381361264
You're still backpedaling like a retard after being shown to not have proof that the scout flies are more lore friendly by tracking monsters via smell. What's to say paintballs aren't just smelly colored sacks of shit used to track monsters through smell in all the other games? Oh that's right you can't but because of your retarded logic it's fine for me to assume that's the case without proof. So then they're both as "lore friendly" as each other so this is a fucking moot point. Kill yourself.
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>>381361190
>the Switch is a glorified handheld
That everyone including Nintendo is treating like a home console.
XX on the Switch is going to sell as well as 3U on the Wii U did, despite it being the superior version
Sales is a stupid as fuck argument that people keep bringing up for no reason anyways just because it's not on the 3DS anymore. Capcom could have killed the series after Frontier or Tri if they cared that much.
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>>381360974
>this is the exact reason transmog was added to wow
>people actually, legitimately called it a bad feature when it first released
can't please everyone
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>>381361112
>tri worse than xx
that's the worst MH opinion i've seen in quite some time
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>>381361491
Nintendo is marketing the switch as a home console and a portable console. Stop being dumb.
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Everyone would be happy if Capcom localized XX.

Instead Capcom decided not to which is seen as a massive slight to the western fanbase that has supported the series thus far.
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>>381361465
I love Jhen Mohran armour so much. Basically carried me through half of high rank and the large majority of G rank
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>>381361216
xx appeals to the newer fanbase and is alienating the older one, hence the massive criticism in japan

MHW appeals to the oldfags who bought monster hunter for the feeling it brings, not some autistic notion of a game
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>>381361491
>that everyone including Nintendo is treating like a home console
Well if you look at the Splatoon sales, the japanese market is definitely treating it as a portable console.
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I wish you idiots weren't insistent on splitting the fanbase and making the people who like XX and are looking forward to World appear to not even exist.
I mean for fuck's sake someone was trying to coin the term "Anti-XX Faggots" yesterday, this is getting ridiculous
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>>381361465

>>381361434
Tri. With 3rd and 3U the franchise began to suck. Karate moves for Deviljho, anime wolf and more anime shit in general, shit online, PS2 rehashes, getting rid of new ideas instead of improving them, easier difficulty, more horrible marathon quests that make the game piss easy.
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>>381361596
Who cares westerners hardly buy MH anyway. Capcom ignoring them probably does nothing for the money they make. They could honestly just focus on Japan only and do just as well as they're doing now.
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>>381361537
I was really looking forward to the transmog for XX
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>>381358928
>>381359035
Listen all I'm saying is that it is equivalent to current tracking systems in a non-zone based game. Paintballs/Pyschoserum = Scout flies.

From what I've seen you need to actually interact with the trail to get the glowy marker shit. If you don't want to use them, just follow the shadow like the other anon said.

Now if the monster won't spawn unless you do it, then yes you are totally right and that is retarded.
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>>381361331
>it ran almost always below 30 when anything was happening and dipped during online play and multiple monsters constantly
Did you play it on Citra or something?
3/4U run at a 30 to 32fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0sZJyCArfg
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>>381361689
>piss easy
So, what MH game should I start with? Most people either recommend FU or 4U, but I don't know which one to start with.
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>>381361596
They never said they weren't going to, just that they had no plans, which is code for none of your business.
They're probably still going to localize at least the 3DS version later down the line.
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>>381361689

>>381361604
Only in Tri it's actually good, though, especially when you swap High Rank pants with Low Rank pants.
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>>381361634
>xx appeals to the newer fanbase and is alienating the older one, hence the massive criticism in japan
xx is closer to mh4u than mhw, and mh4u printed money. no one cares about you ancient psp friends, still bringing up claw grip and "the good ole days"
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>>381361481
I haven't backpedaled once autist
>being shown not to have proof
you're asking for proof of something everyone else finds self evident
>whats to say paintballs aren't smell
the retarded comparison you're making is that the paintballs can track exact, moving location, and it's the hunter that is tracking it with their supposed "super smell"
>this thing I made up is just as right as this criticism that nobody else thinks or cares about
sure thing fag, go fuck yourself
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>>381355989
XX comes 6+ months earlier.
It's also a shit game, so you'll get tired of it way before MHX comes out.

No reason not to get both.
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>>381361634
>hence the massive criticism in japan
Which is why it's selling fairly well.
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>>381361784
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>>381361537
>thinking transmog in wow was a good thing
>comparing it to a game where half of the point of the game is wearing what you kill
*thinking*
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>>381361596
dude, are you new? what nintendo mh hasn't been localized? why can't you people wait the 8 months or so for them to announce it?
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>>381361596
The majority of the western fanbase is already forgetting about XX in place of World. Portability is meme.
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>>381361723
Actually it's Nintendo that pays for the localization which is why it happens.

But it's still up to Capcom to allow a game to be localized even if someone else pays for it. Which would really be a dick move on Capcom's part (And give credence to the rumor that Sony is paying off Capcom to keep MH off the Switch as much as possible.)
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I'm not going to lie, I wasn't able to finish Generations like I have every other Monster Hunter. I finished the singleplayer and got halfway through the Guild quests before no longer feeling a drive to continue playing. Generations just didn't add anything to shake up enough other than the anime shit, but using that made the game way too easy.
I likely would not have bought XX since it doesn't change enough to fix these issues, and it's part of why I am optimistic about World shaking things up.
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>>381361469

Both of you are fucking idiots. 4U was uncapped on BOTH 3ds models. The difference is that it ran way worse on o3DS and even n3DS could not hit 50-60 consistently.

https://youtu.be/_0sZJyCArfg?t=85

Look here, o3DS struggles to stay barely above 33 with a SINGLE hunter against a GREAT JAGGI. Imagine it with 4 hunters against something like a double hunt.
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>>381361793
>nobody cares about you ancient psp friends
APPARENTLY THE DEVS DO, LMAO

are you forgetting you're not in any sort of majority you fucking delusional faggot?
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>>381361937
MH4
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>>381361932
point proven. you have people upset over having to wear clown suits, wishing they could transmog, then you have people bringing up "muh killz wear".

capcom can't win.
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>>381361059
Console war people will have to go away eventually right? Right?
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>>381361993
Play the game before taking shit, cuck.
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>>381361891
>stagnation of sales is "selling fairly well"
when you're sales are not meeting expectations and selling less as a percentage of the market share than your last title, that isn't "fairly well"
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>>381361634
>MHW appeals to the oldfags
With damage numbers, visualized sharpness state, monster health, scripted traps and monster fights, wobbly "organic" animations with teleporting, more mounting and open world meme instead of shortcuts and anime moves?

Sure thing.
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>>381362034
>are you forgetting you're not in any sort of majority you fucking delusional faggot?
>ignoring the part where mh4u printed money
typical gramps. go back to your dusty ass psp and vita, and pray that capcom throws you a bone.
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>>381361634
>xx appeals to the newer fanbase
XX using traditional gameplay with minor gimmicks attached as usual while Worlds changes the game significantly both in the world design and in weapon combos not to mention the additional grappling hooks.

>MHW appeals to the oldfags who bought monster hunter for the feeling it brings, not some autistic notion of a game
You do realise that prior to the actual announcement no one was on board with the idea of MHW but the people who wanted the title and not the actual game right?
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>>381354832
>Even Tri on Wii and 3U were 40-60 FPS

Why do people keep saying this? Yeah it was technically uncapped but that meant maybe you'd top at 38 for a split second when nothing's onscreen. For all intents and purposes the game was ~30 the entire way through.
The 3DS version could actually reach 60 though for some inexplicable reason. They just sucked at porting it to the console and even added a shitton of input lag for fun.

>>381353483
I'm not buying it. Games like Peace walker let different versions play together at different framerates. Not to mention the millions of different PC setups playing together at different performances just fine.
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>>381362060
it's almost like the former is self inflicted and a minority of minmaxing fags, and the latter is taking a game design view (as opposed to feelings) consistent with every game but 2 in the series
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>>381362054
to be fair mh4u was a better game.
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>>381362124
>1.7m in less than one month
>b-but stagnation
Yeah sure.
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>>381362089

I have the game on a n3DS, in fact I bought the bundle with the game and no, it doesn't run at 60 locked on n3DS. Start showing some evidence before you spew stupid shit. I gave you a link with frame analysis and n3DS dips as low as fucking 30 with a single hunter.
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>>381362149
>damage numbers
Can be turned off
>visualized sharpness state
This doesn't affect anything, it's not much different as it suddenly changing a color and then you going to sharpen
>monster health
False
>scripted traps and monster fights
You sure know a lot about scripting from mostly tutorial gameplay
>wobbly "organic" animations with teleporting
This sounds like "game feel" drivel that you're spouting that's not even a real fact.
>open world meme
But it's not open world. It's larger maps without zones but there's multiple maps. Open world would imply one singular huge map.
You and other people need to get your facts more straight before trying so hard.
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>>381362175
>You do realise that prior to the actual announcement no one was on board with the idea of MHW but the people who wanted the title and not the actual game right?

Because they were going by the leaks which are complete bullshit.
If you saw the stream and still hate MHW, you're just a salty cunt.
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>>381362401
>Because they were going by the leaks which are complete bullshit
They were fairly on point bar a few wording choices.
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>>381361634
If this isn't bait please seek help
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>>381361937
Let's see how much you can count.

Monster Hunter games on Nintendo systems that were localized
Monster Hunter Tri
Monster Hunter 3U (3DS)
Monster Hunter 3U (WiiU)
Monster Hunter 4U
Monster Hunter X


Monster Hunter games on Nintendo systems that were NOT localized
Monster Hunter G
Monster Hunter 4
Monster Hunter XX (3DS)
Monster Hunter XX (Switch)

Only 5 out of the 9 games released were localized.
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>complain about arts when you can turn them off
>you're suddenly not allowed to complain about the shitty grappling hook when you can SUPPOSEDLY turn them off

Incredible...
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>>381362348
>I gave you a link with frame analysis and n3DS dips as low as fucking 30 with a single hunter.
You know that video doesn't have it drop below 40 outside of cutscenes right?
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>>381362149
>anime moves
less than previous titles, especially as far as flashy effects are concerned
>sharpness indication was never some hardcore element until you fags needed it for your """"argument""""
>scripted traps and monster fights
how is this bad? aside from the fact that you're overstating their viability
>monster health
not a massive change, not direct health
>wobbly organic animations with teleporting
as opposed to what other monster hunter, also the latest demo was free of most of that, 3 quarters out
>more mounting
less mounting
>open world meme
it's not open world

damage numbers are valid, but not enough to ruin the game worse than the direction it was previously headed
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>>381362242
If you're supposed to wear full sets and never mix, why require each part to be individually crafted?

Visual choice is good, and if changing the appearance of armour A to armour B required consuming a crafted armour B, the only think lost is another player's ability to read skills from armour appearance alone.
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>>381360337
>anime shit
>Usual shit posting in MHW threads
>Taking a moment to branch off from the usual arguments and shit posting to wonder if liking anime and MH are or are not mutually exclusive
And honestly I have no side to take on Styles and Arts. I admit I'm an Adept and Arialfag, but every now and then I go back to 3U or 4U and have no problem playing those games without them
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>>381357308
It's almost as if the Switch is a success with even Sony saying it is.
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>>381351805
>>381352070
>shilling a shit rehash not even japs like just because it releases on your $300 brick
>mfw all systems are getting MH5 while n-drones are being fed scraps
>mfw it's not even going to be released in english
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>>381362163
>bringing up 4u in a comparison between xx and MHW
oh look I'm thinking again

>>381362175
>minor gimmicks
stopped reading, try using less hyperbole next time
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>>381362358

>>381362363
>Can be turned off
You can also stand on your head when playing the game, doesn't change that intentionally crippling yourself NEVER feels good since there is something called psychology and psychological effects like, for instance, loss aversion. It's horrible and contradicts what Monster Hunter was about once; experience. Not reading the rest of this time-wasting shilling. Getting boring.
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>over 4 million sold
if mhw doesn't break this number across 3 systems, it will be a total failure. please remember this.
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>>381362668
>not even japs like
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
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>>381362739
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>>381362346
yea, that's pretty much on par with what I said

they expected 2 million and that's still on track to sell as much or less than other titles
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>>381362760
Crazier things have happened, but I doubt it will. Consoles are dead in Japan, and that's supposed to be their main audience.
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>>381362739
>that reply
>psychological nonsense in an attempt to justify being mad at something you can disable
>posting the actual facts is "time-wasting shilling"
And the sad thing is I know you're not shitposting. This is the deluded mentality that this side of the fanbase has. Dismissing anything that disproves their fallacies or warped view of reality as shilling. Pathetic, really.
And the saddest
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>>381362760

Wouldn't be more fair to compare to original release of MH4 if Capcom is going with the same model of rereleasing G rank version later? MH4 sold less than MH4U.
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>>381362518
>said the newfag
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>>381362856
You realise there's now about 3 months of unaccounted sales right?
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>>381362739
So you're saying that because you could see the numbers, not seeing the numbers is traumatic enough to not make you play the game.

How is that different than not knowing the numbers because you didn't use the readily available spreadsheets?
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>>381362660
where did I say you were supposed to or it wasn't intended?

the point is that if you do want to engage in that, you'll look ridiculous and that's your own choice. You still look like you're wearing the monsters you're gaining powers from
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>>381362959
MH4 sold 4.1 mil in japan only
Doesn't really make a difference to his argument
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>>381362956
Not him, but you're really fucking stupid if you think it's okay to defend damage numbers since you can turn them off and then bash on Hunter Arts where you can do the same thing.
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>>381361596
It's not a slight to the western fanbase because they're releasing World anyway. Which is an international release and therefore renders a localization of XX a pointless waste of time. There will be a new MH for the western fanbase to play already, the only people who would feel slighted are people who literally only own a Switch.
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>>381362739
>crippling yourself
I'm sorry, are you under the impression you need to see the damage values to know which parts to hit?

when you turn off the numbers you won't know where you're supposed to hit?

it's useful for not having to consult some damage chart outside of the game somewhere since they're never provided the calculations in game

I'll just be using it for testing myself, which is more than I could do for previous games
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>>381363160
And he's even worse for ignoring facts on everything else to believe his hatred-induced fallacious view on reality.
He'll continue to parrot open world and monster health despite both being untrue and just like everyone else like him, a scary portion of the fanbase, they'll deflect everyone that goes against them as shilling.
This fanbase sucks.
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>people defending damage numbers
>not realizing you'll be grouped with people that have it turned on
experience ruined
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>>381363160
You realise he's just going to say something like
>But they're better than normal play!
As if there's no such thing as status effects.
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>>381363049
Why not allow people who want to double their effort to get double the rewards in meeting both their stat and appearance goals?
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>>381362962
you realise that it won't sell anywhere near that much per month and it's still on par with the other games right?
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>>381358448
>2016
>>381358691
>24m
>2017
please dont be to hard on him
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>>381355251
Zinogre gets it's ass beaten by shitty annoying monsters

>Has to go full zombie sayian to kill them

LOL
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>>381363309
>being so autistic that you get triggered by people using numbers you yourself still won't see
So this is the average kind of sperg complaining
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>>381363160
one is gameplay making you more powerful and the other is information that will not be useful the more you play

it's like comparing a 1 shot stick to a tutorial
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>>381363336
>and it's still on par with the other games right?
You keep on saying this as if it means something.
Your "stagnation" doesn't matter in the slightest because it's still a net profit for the company.
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>>381363160
If you turn off damage numbers you just don't see them. But not using hunter arts doesn't mean the people you play with don't. You're still gonna see anime bullshit on your game.

That said, I don't really mind either way. I like arts and numbers only make it more convenient since I don't have to go to websites to find out damage numbers.
It's pretty dumb to say MH is going down the drain because you can see how much damage your weapon does.
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>>381363209
And the 3DS, which is the mainstay system for the franchise.

It's a clear slight, and if Capcom localized XX, then you wouldn't hear all this bitching over MHW.
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>>381363309
it provides no material advantage, and is a decent substitute for looking shit up

I personally don't like it, but not enough to complain, because it's reasonable
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>>381363460
>It's pretty dumb to say MH is going down the drain because you can see how much damage your weapon does.
uh oh better not tell the delusional side of the fanbase that does this with every new release since 4/3!
Monster Hunter threads should be banned just because of how shitty these people make them
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I like every MH game. I'm just old and want it portable so I can be lazy after work and play some in bed. I hope we'll get XX in English.
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>>381363160
>defend damage numbers since you can turn them off and then bash on Hunter Arts where you can do the same thing.
Not him(also), but if we have these features and mechanics that in the end are completely optional and don't have to hamper your style of gameplay if you don't want them to by simply avoiding them...what's the point of complaining in the first place?
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>>381360435
this guy is right, ive started with tri but man 4 is just better bc no water, weird fucking controls slowd down battlespeed
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>>381363390>>381363441
>>381363460


Oh yeah don't worry, there will a ton of casualization factors that will directly effect you.
All these and more, will make the game incredibly easier.
>constant environmental hazards for monster
>grappling hook
>moving while healing
>incredibly fast health regen
>easy mounting
>firefly shit
>monsters constantly falling
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>>381351805
>Monster has preset attacks that are all extremely telegraphed.
>Charge attacks have giant flash effects to remind you.
>Monster gets dazed after a single attack
What is this casual anime mess?
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>>381363334
because it ruins the overall experience of the game by letting you wear things that don't reflect your abilities

it's a cheap bandaid for a problem that they need to fix
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Damage numbers only serve to make using upgraded weapons and exploiting weaknesses more readily apparent, they do nothing to help you understand how close a monster is to dying without a health bar.

Instead of killing a monster in 15 minutes rather than 20, now you see that you're doing 75 damage instead of 50 for using the correct weapon type right away. It's literally just quality of life and detracts from nothing.
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>>381363593
That's the point, he's saying the anon complaining about arts is being hypocritical
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I really don't understand how i-frames work in MH. No matter how much I practice I can't dodge a fucking thing.
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>>381363459
>your stagnation doesn't matter
when you progress beyond burger flipping you might understand what I'm talking about

it's a universal concept true of any business anywhere and throughout all of history
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>>381363593
That's exactly what I'm saying. If you can turn off both of those features, who the fuck cares.
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>>381363441
>one is gameplay making you more powerful
Except in the time it takes to charge an art you would be halfway done with the monster using an optimal set and strategy.
Why are you under the impression that arts and styles are that over powered? If anything they're under powered despite their flashy animations and they only serve to waste time.
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So how long will we have to deal with butthurt nintendo fanboys shitting on MHW?
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>>381363673
that removes a large part of what makes the game "fun". when you test a new weapon upgrade, you go out, hunt a beast and compare that kill to previous ones.

just say NO to casual changes.
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>>381363642
>ruins the overall experience of the game

"I'm a nitpicking faggot who cannot bear any kind of change, only my way of having fun is the correct way!"
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>>381363840
forever on this garbage board
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>>381360040
>every speedrunner's best times are with arts
Try again, dumbass.
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>>381363620
>incredibly fast health regen
But the health regen on used items is slower and more gradual than it was before.
>constant environmental hazards for monster
Constant is a bit of an overstatement and you don't need to use them. We've seen gameplay prior to the demo that shows a group of four fighting a monster like you would in any other game.
>moving while healing
Because there's no zones and it's again balanced by the slower regen
>easy mounting
From what we've seen it takes longer to finish a mount and the monster more actively tries to knock you off to where body position is important. Different is not the same as easier.
>firefly shit
As if finding the monster was ever part of the challenge, right? Totally not when you have 1 out of 99 stored Psychoserums and 1 out of 99 stored Paintballs ready
>monsters constantly falling
Literally nothing proves monsters fall more
And now you're going to say "hurr you're just shilling" like the last idiot because you're all the same kind of retard.
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>>381363840
We're not going to get proper MH threads until the Sonygros go back to Neogaf so I'm guessing never.
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>>381363441
>one is making you more powerful

In what regard? The 10% chance you'll actually make an impact on the monster or the 90% chance you're going to miss the right chance to use the actual hunter art. Not to mention the insanely powerful ones take forever to charge up, this isn't even a speculation. It's fact.
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>>381361217
>pc delay bc optimization
>60 fps
>ps4 exlusive, ok (..for how long?)
>you have to call for multiplayer
allrighty then
>modding
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The worst thing about Worlds being a thing is people retroactively trying to say X and XX aren't super fucking dog shitj.

Stop trying to do that, X is literal dog shit.

At least back an actual good MH like 4U or Tri.
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>>381363840
So how long will we have to deal with shilling sony fanboys praising MHW?
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>>381351805
Looks neat, hope it's good. I don't think I'll be getting a switch just for it though.
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>>381362663
>Being a fan of MH
>Being a fan of anime
pick one.
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>>381364021
>>381363958
>>381363840
>x fanbase is doing it
>no y fanbase is doing it
You are both terrible and are both responsible for making these threads shitty.
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>>381364035
It's not getting a release in the west anyway.
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>>381363642
If hunters needed to be keen on their teammates' abilities, I'd agree. But generally, hunters are mechanically self-contained damage-maximizing engines (HH kinda exempt, though team buffs could be considered part of the HH's damage). And how the fuck would you visually read charms and jewels?

Relying on visual reads of armour is a poor way to communicate abilities.
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>>381363620
>constant hazards
they aren't constant, and seeking them out is less dps
>grappling hook
another way to dodge, will depend on balance considerations. You still have to activate it to use it, as opposed to instant rolling
>moving while healing
another balance consideration. Hopefully there will be more, but the fact that you can't leave the area, and the item doesn't work until the animation finishes is a good start
>incredibly fast health regen
another balance consideration, we don't know what the later game will be like as well as item availability
>easy mounting
how can you make this """point""" with a straight face?
>firefly shit
better than the previous implementation, also makes sense given how much harder it would be to actually find the monster in such a large map
>monsters constantly falling
same point as the disasters point, having to go out of your way isn't worth it, and you're using hyperbole with "constantly". Also another balance consideration

so all of your points are essentially things that can easily be addressed by harder or smarter enemies at endgame, or other possible considerations, and you don't actually know the final gameplay
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>>381364091
Word of advice, if there are three different sets of people singling out the fourth and the fourth is singling out one of the three, not all of them just one, then it's clear where the problem is.
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>>381363620
>monsters constantly falling
I don't know if they fall more, but god damn do they stay down for so much longer from what we've seen
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>>381364180
>they aren't constant
Not him but did you even watch the gameplay? Environmental hazards are everywhere,
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>>381364210
>argument ad populum
If an entire fanbase chooses a boogeyman that doesn't make it right and it doesn't erase the hypocrisy.
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>>381363813
>in the time it takes for you to change an art
since when does it take time for you to change an art? have you played this game for a significant period of time?
>why are you under the impression that arts and styles are overpowers
I dunno, maybe that they are and the meta ones that don't provide free i frames provide incredible utility or damage?
>if anything they're under powered
why are you arguing when you have literally no significant knowledge of the subject?
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>>381363901
I'm fine with change, like most in MHW

this isn't a change issue, it's an issue with the overall feel of the game

>nitpicking
of course it's nitpicking, whether it is in the game or not is hardly effectual. That doesn't invalidate what I've said and I didn't bring the subject up
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>>381364532
>using game feel as a real argument
Take your meaningless buzzwords somewhere else
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>Yfw when you liked both Gen/XX and are optimistic for World
>Fandom is split because Gen is too "anime" and World is too "casualized"

Jesus. An honest question for Worldfags though: would you be upset if the Fated Four were added into world, or Capcom even manages to add Rocket dragon to make up for no XX localization(yet), because those monsters would be too "anime"?
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>>381363967
how can you read that post and not delete it out of shame? are you under the impression good players think any of that is true?
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>>381360912

MH3U ran at less than 30fps in most content on WiiU friendo
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>>381363948
>But the health regen on used items is slower and more gradual than it was before.
Go look at the gameplay that was streamed yesterday(?) and tell me that is slower. It is not.
>constant environmental hazards for monster
Okay so we're here at the earlier argument of not using a feature, JUST LIKE HUNTER ARTS. The game heavily encourages you to use the hazards and as shown in the gameplay, it's pretty often.
>Because there's no zones and it's again balanced by the slower regen
Again, earlier argument. I may be wrong but I have yet to see an actual video comparison of the two, and from the gameplay it looked MUCH faster than other games.
>From what we've seen it takes longer to finish a mount and the monster more actively tries to knock you off to where body position is important. Different is not the same as easier.
You jump on a monster and you're almost guaranteed to grapple onto it. This is not even addressed ever and I hardly see people complain about it, but we've never seen anyone fail to grapple onto a monster.
>As if finding the monster was ever part of the challenge, right? Totally not when you have 1 out of 99 stored Psychoserums and 1 out of 99 stored Paintballs ready
Fireflies are not just for finding monsters, they are literally almost everywhere you do anything.
>Literally nothing proves monsters fall more
In the gameplay shown the monster falls more often than anything shown in previous games, and like >>381364228 said.

I am completely judging this game based off what gameplay was shown, so If I'm wrong I'm going to blame Capcom for pushing out shitty gameplay.
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World is to westernized, XX is way to fucking anime bullshit weeb pedophile garbage.

No in between

Series is dead, I hope you are all happy.
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>>381364661
Are you under the impression that good players make up majority of the fanbase? Because they don't, you retard.
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>>381364727
That health regen was from using a potion, as opposed to INSTANTLY gaining a chunk of health when you use a potion.
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>>381364130
>how would you read charms and jewels
those don't provide most of your skills, but I would never defend those, as they're the principal reason transmog is perceived as needed in the first place

>relying on visual reads of armour is poor
I'm not coming from a gameplay perspective. Of course people don't rely on the visual effects, it's just that somebody using narga set, covering it with gravios, and then jumping 30 feet takes away from the game, albeit in a very minor way in my opinion
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>>381364648
Soap Lagiacrus is great
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>>381364062
???
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>>381364727
>Go look at the gameplay that was streamed yesterday(?) and tell me that is slower. It is not.
Use your eyes better. A potion used to be instantaneous.
>JUST LIKE HUNTER ARTS. The game heavily encourages you to use the hazards and as shown in the gameplay, it's pretty often.
But it doesn't. Leaked press conference gameplay has the environmental shit for the tutorial gameplay then it cuts to normal multiplayer affair without any environmental shit.
>You jump on a monster and you're almost guaranteed to grapple onto it.
And as previous gameplay has shown, it's easier to get knocked off now because you have to be positioned well and change your positioning.
>Fireflies are not just for finding monsters, they are literally almost everywhere you do anything.
This still isn't an issue when finding stuff has never been an issue.
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>>381364968
You can already jump 30 feet in a Gravios set even without transmog, just equip the right gems and charm. Your argument is invalid.
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>>381364331
yea, they wasted shit tons of time dragging the monsters around the setpieces, 2 of which (the monsters) were scripted in

if you do the math, it's easy to outdamage those pieces even with something as shitty as the bone gs they were using
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>>381364762
>Complain about XX being too anime
>get shitted on
>Complain about Worlds being too westenised
>Get shitted on
Sure am glad to be part of this shitty fanbase.
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>>381364648
>Add fated four and jet dragon
Mizutsune and Valfalk deserve to be added just because of their themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXeOpj3RWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOlPIHIe2rM
I was dissapointed when their deviants have the deviant theme and not their actual themes
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>>381364632
>meaningless buzzword
only to an autist

>>381364864
so you're argument is that because they provide no significant value to people who haven't learned to use them, they provide no significant value?

and why a majority, I'd say people who aren't retarded like you make up at least 40%, if not the majority
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>>381352969
>hiding the part where the jaggisaur jumps in the air and his animation is cancelled to enter the prescripted rath encounter
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Remember when we could talk about any MH game before the leaks?
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>>381365356
I can't be bothered to look it up does it just stop mid air and teleport down or move to a default position and drop out of the air?
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>>381365093
>just equip the gems and charms
>*literally* right after I just explained how they are the genesis of the problem
do you forget what you read every sentence?
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I no longer have to deal with nintendo consoles or their shit again.
Thank god.
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>>381364895
>>381365021
I'm not even talking about the actual effect of taking a potion you stupid fucks, I'm talking about when your health has the vulnerable red section, It regens much faster.

>>381365021
>But it doesn't. Leaked press conference gameplay has the environmental shit for the tutorial gameplay then it cuts to normal multiplayer affair without any environmental shit.
You CLEARLY didn't watch the gameplay that was shown the other day.
>And as previous gameplay has shown, it's easier to get knocked off now because you have to be positioned well and change your positioning.
And you can hook right back on instantaneously with the grappling hook.
>This still isn't an issue when finding stuff has never been an issue.
I am not talking about the actual act of finding stuff, the visuals are constantly in your face.
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>>381365356
the rath being there is part of the demo, so that's likely only a result of the demo, as rath is said to not be there all the time
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>>381365373
>pic related sort of gets his way
>MH threads all die everywhere
We need him back
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>>381365312
>only to an autist
Only an autist or someone as stupid as Egoraptor would use game feel as a real thing.
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>>381365162
>I was dissapointed when their deviants have the deviant theme and not their actual themes
Everyone was
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>>381365312
I'm fully convinced that you're a retard who has played with a specific group only and never went online.
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>>381365162
If there's one thing that has indisputably improved since MH moved to Nintendo is that the music has become infinitely better.

Just go back and listen to the first few games, they're cacophonies.
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>>381351805
>MHXX
>HD
>you need to pick one
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I just want the series to end at this point.

Capcom doesnt' know what to do with.

Japan is just going to ruin it by injecting their gross anime into.

Just let it die.
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>>381365621
the overall consistency of the game designed to evoke an idea or emotion, etc. is obviously something people do when they make games like this

you actually have to be autistic to not recognize it just because it isn't part of a concrete system or something
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>>381365612
>all along his image was prophetic
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>>381365473
it jumps into the air, then gets stuck for half a second and teleports straight down to the ground so the rath fight can begin
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>>381365162
Have we got rips of any of the music from Worlds yet? Deviljho better fucking come back in worlds to rape the newfag players.
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>>381365627
after beating singleplayer I play exclusively online, and most people know to use their iframes sharpening dodge don't miss their special when the monster is rolling on the ground for a minute

if you think being able to use anything you described even semi competently constitutes less than most of the population after a certain point, you're retarded

maybe if you include people who just start out, but we both know that's even more idiotic and asinine
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>>381364968
If jewels/charms were removed, play style would be far more constrained. A HH user would need to equip a HH-focused armour set and be bound by the other skills it has, instead of being about to jewel/charm a set to work with HH. In order to have the selection of armours to meet various monsters, there would either need to be an armour class for each weapon type (extending the current melee/range divide), or a fuckton more monsters just to pad out armour sets.
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>>381361837
>self evident
But there's no evidence so you're talking out of your asshole. The scout flies track the exact same location and you're tryi to argue semantics in a series where super soldiers carry around giant anime weapons like they're toothpicks yet one of them being able to smell is somehow beyond reason? You really are fucking stupid.
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>>381365897
All we've heard as for music is the one from the 22 min leak from E3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIYLYT7ssIE

It's alright, but I prefer the older themes more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDdMSca1ZE
>Gobul return never
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>>381365356
Go make the webm yourself then you fucking crybaby, I only captured cool parts.
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Going multiplat was the worst thing to happen to this series.
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>>381366029
>a hh player would have to equip
how is it you can imagine not having jewels, but can't imagine changing things in consideration of the fact?
>a hh player would need to equip
not if they remove such a set and balance the HH
>there would need to be an armour class for each weapon type
why? have you not played before they started adding armor sets like that?
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>>381365897
>Jho
The magic of Jho from Tri will never be repeated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW5kDpCX6hA


That's just melancholy right there. Especially when in 4U they used that annoying faget Rajang and had to give him artificial difficulty apex upgrade to make him a threat as a party crasher monster,
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>>381365728
>>381365017
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>>381366213
Tri HR really felt like every mission was a dangerous expedition. In 4U and Gen you see so much artificial shit with Apex and Hyper that no monster is actually felt or respected as a threat on its own. It's just not the same.
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>>381366061
>the scout flies track the exact same location
what does this mean?
>le everything is ridiculous so anything can be even more ridiculous argument
this never ceases to amaze me, as if space ships would be fine just because something else is also ridiculous
>semantics
I've tried explaining, in words used by the devs, the reason for scoutflies, and why they're just as good if not making more sense than previous implementations

the semantics is coming from you, where you think this whole concept is invalid if you can prove the flies don't use smell, despite it being evident to everyone else, and trying to win a stupid argument solely on that point

it's like arguing with a toddler
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>>381366213
I hope they use the removal of loading zones between areas and destructible terrain to make Jho more interesting.
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>>381355251
>shows rathalos
>anyone thinks jho, zinogre and brachy aren't almost completely guaranteed, let alone rathian, kut-ku, garuga, khezu and fucking gypceros
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enjoy your B team XX switchcucks.
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>>381351805
Cant play in english right? Shame for people that wanted to start monster hunter on switch. Not everyone got used to use translation website/dont want to use.
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so it's fairly evident that the vast majority of complaints about world are borne from a lack of critical thinking

so why can't you guys just think about your complaint before posting?

is it actually autism?
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>>381366709
>Wojack cancer
>Using old and busted meme 'cuck'
So new, so sad.
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>>381366520
Eh, when you figure out how everything works it kind of ruins the magic and danger.
I remember being a novice at MH and feeling the exact same way and then I got gud and I lost it completely.
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>>381366659
rath is in every game

this game will likely be like tri and have a limited prior roster
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>>381366192
What would the HH balances be, specifically?

I played prior to the melee/range divide, and it was a good addition. The amount of weapon types had almost doubled, so making two sets of armour come from each monster was okay.
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>>381357443
>shit hitbox
>actually fucking hit you
this is actually bait
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>>381366845
Advantage of home consoles and PC is that they have hard drives, so it's really easy to do periodic updates with more monsters, quests, etc.
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>>381366809
Maybe so, but Tri was able to do what others weren't due to the magic of surprise. An all new cast of monsters (except the Raths) and no apex or other artificial bullshit like that. 3U also was able to achieve it a bit but didn't have as much surprise as Tri did.
Maybe MHW will bring a lot new to the table too, we'll see.
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Flashy, over the top shit is fine, what's not fine is
>adept/brave and absolutes completely invalidate utility skills like evasion up and earplugs
>brave LS and HBG are ridiculously better than the rest of the weapons and styles
>to compensate for this, hyper and deviant monsters have insane HP and damage bloat
>the entire deviant system is garbage, from the quests working like urgents to the fuckload of tickets required for gear to super deviants being OHKO machines worse than any 140 GQ apex monster
>performance is still worse than 4U
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>>381366756
You do realise that critical thinking is meant to be objective right?
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>>381366845
but there's almost no info on the other monsters, how could you make that assumption?
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>>381366876
no idea

but if they take the armor skills that apparently are "necessary" and just add them onto the weapon, the skills are no longer necessary

I personally would keep HH a piece of shit and make the buffs better, but make them aggro the monster
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>>381366809
I think the bigger factor was no power creep. Even in 3U. Getting a decent skill set was a massive accomplishment.

Then 4U and Gen came along and just shit out skills on the players.


Also no G rank played a major factor too. Because in that case, players just race through HR because G exists and it makes HR seem like a waste of time.

Oh and Tri had completely different skill sets from the HR version and you could fully upgrade your LR armor too.


Tri is so underrated.
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>>381366953
yes I don't disagree, and I hope they do that in a non jewish fashion

>>381367150
that's what they said, or at least what I remember them saying
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>>381366953
Capcom is still going to make on disc DLC for Monhun you know, the difference is that they can actually charge players for it this time.
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>>381367292
source??? I never heard them say this
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>>381367064
yea there are complaints that can be proven objectively wrong, like the environment doing more damage than players

rathalos doesn't do more damage than 8 shit hits from 4 people with the rathalos longsword, and takes a fairly long time to get to, on top of likely not being where he is guarunteed in the demo. Yet the meme is brought up in every thread

this is one example of many, most having to do with being based on assumptions of current unknowns
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>>381358950
I can confirm this. I'm a 500 hours 4U, 300 hours Gen veteran who could avoid glavenus' attack without evasion skill, but I can't get past Abyss Watchers.
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>>381367430
why do people do this?

I can provide a source for a particular moment in a fight

I'm not going to sit through all the videos and press releases and shit to find a one liner
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>>381367670
>why do people want proof for claims?
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>>381361723
Capcom cares. They're marketing MHW as more western friendly. Which makes it even more bizarre. They're shitting on an established western fanbase while trying to cater to some other one that doesn't exist (yet) or hasn't existed since pre-nintendo MH.
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>>381367167
So weapon skills that are focused on offence, and armour skills that are focused on defence? Simpler, though it would be something for an X-like side-title to do first, before rolling it into the main series for a new generation.
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>>381367773
more like
>why do people demand unrealistic proof instead of just ignoring or disputing it
I didn't make some sort of steadfast guarantee, i just recall hearing there would be a limited roster from the previous games
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>>381358950
Is that because Souls is an unpolished piece of clunky shit and Monster Hunter is not after Capcom moved the series to Nintendo and fixed everything?

Of course you'd be better at a game that doesn't strap a bolder to your back and demand you run a marathon.
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>>381367853
>or hasn't existed since pre-nintendo MH.
You realise that the pre Nintendo MH and post Nintendo MH fanbases are the same fanbase, right.
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>>381367875
what I would like is entirely defensive or quality of life skills

when they throw in attack up (anything), of course people are almost entirely going to go for that advantage, no matter how slight

offense stats are idiotic because they just become, "which set gives me the highest dps?", which leads to clownsuiting and irrelevancy for everything else
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>>381358950
>Let MH players play a Souls game and watch them cry
Dude, Souls games are easy as shit.
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>>381368046
>after capcom moved the series to nintendo
you mean after tech advanced right?
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>>381368359
No, look at some of the gen 1 and 2 monsters in 4U and Gen.

They're hitboxes are still a crime against humanity.
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>>381358950
souls games are like those people who want monster hunter to be pure boss memorization, the autists who argue for predictability and rigidness in MH

dark souls is just i frames abuse and memorization, and I play the series and like it alot

not forgetting to deal with x trash mob provides more of a challange than any boss, and they've been making that aspect more casual
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