RIP eBay and online shopping in Australia in general.

Why Australia can't into economics?

Is it true they banned gta? What other stuff do they ban and why? Violence against women?

>>381326165
Nope. They banned Left 4 Dead 2 though.

>>381326165
It's just depicted rape and drug use. Australia being Germany-tier is a total meme.

>>381326165
>Is it true they banned gta?
No, one retailer pulled it from their shelves months later, the kind of retailer that has videogames tucked way in the back of the electronics section, has 2 copies buried in a mix of other popular releases and tons of shovelware.

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>tax on digitally delivered services

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>>381326084
i don't know man. I just don't know.

>>381326270
Left 4 Dead 2 isn't banned, just heavily censored.

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>>381326084

>>381327053
>Tweed Heads

The fuck? With all the teenage gangs and old cunts at the club?

>>381325989
Canada will be going down the same path soon. Trudeau and the liberal party have had a netflix tax in the works for awhile now.

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>>381327328
Right?

>Australia
Who cares?

>>381327586

Wow, not even a great apartment. And I thought Brisbane/Goldy was bad. What on earth is the appeal of Weed Heads that makes these real estate cunts charge so much? They must want to be near Twin Towns real bad...

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>>381327729

Fuck off out of our thread seppo cunt

>>381327963
>Brisbane/Goldy

Man, I live in Sydney. It's so bad here I have basically given up on the idea of ever owning property. Not in Australia at least.

>>381326084
You fuckers will pretend to be all for "the economy" one moment and then laugh at anyone who doesn't support welfare.

>>381326165
They tried to ban small tit porn because of some bullshit about pedophilia.

>>381326427
And isn't anymore after they gave us R18.

>>381328131

Sorry to hear mate. I can't believe how expensive shit is here. Even renting a half decent room in a shared house as a student bleeds you dry in this country.

Where do you reckon is a more affordable alternative if you want to own a home?

>>381328335
I know. We are renting a 2 bedroom place here at the moment and it's $925 a week. So insane.

Japan. I'm moving there in a month. Hopefully permanently.

>>381328335
this is just the beginning
people have been distracted for too long while the jews keep making the state bigger and bigger
it's just a matter of time before we have full socialism

>>381328143
I'm laughing at you right now for thinking welfare is good for the economy

>>381328516
Best of luck, anon. がんばって

>>381328516
Fark, that's an insane price for a 2 bedroomer. Didn't realise it was that bad. Is it at least a good spot?

Japan has always been the place I wanted to visit the most, like so many others. I've heard from some that if you know what you're doing its cheap to live month to month. How are you going about it if you don't mind me asking? Would have to have some stable work I imagine.

>>381328781
Read his post again, he is saying it is bad for the economy.

>>381328160
not true

>>381328261
I haven't got it installed at the moment, but I'm pretty sure it is still censored to hell and back even after we got the R18. Could be wrong though, it has been a while.

>>381328904
Yeah we are in a good spot, so it's KIND OF worth the price, but not really.

It is really cheap to live there, especially if you can get by not living in a big city. My partner has a job over there so I am going with them and will try to get work myself hopefully. Just gotta give it a go and see what happens.

>>381329049
http://store.steampowered.com/app/322070

You don't automatically get the uncensored version.

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>>381328781

>>381328516
Anon, Japan's economy isnt all that better. They go through regular recessions and it's unbelievably competitive to get a job. I was there on a study tour in 2015 and the uni students there were all infatuated with Australia and were shocked when I told them it was essentially the same except worst because weaker economy and way less production jobs. That and their work/life culture is honestly garbage. All the best though, hope you have a plan at the least.

>>381327053
ha, fuck auckland
god damn jaffas

From what i'm reading it's going to be pushed back to next year

Would based Tones have supported this?
The man stopped the boats, would he have stopped this tax?

How come VR costs 1,000,000+ for us
It couldn't be any more deader.

>>381328516
I hope you are not moving to Tokyo then, because if you think 925 is bad, strap in.

>>381329112

I wish you all the best with it, hope you guys get a good break there away from this shithole and have a great time.

>>381326271
isn't Germany much more lax these days as well?

>>381329649
joe "Looks like a old italian man and probs has bikey friends" hockey came up with the digital goods tax

>>381329820
Not even close to Tokyo. To give you a taste, our rent for our 3 room apartment is going to be about $720 a MONTH, so about $180 a week.

On that note though, I have lived in Tokyo before and rented an apartment for about $1000 a month or $250 a week. Still so much better than Sydney. That was only a single room apartment though.

Thanks! We are really looking forward to the break.

>>381329649
Absolutely. I dont think you realize, but economy is straight up fucked, with no future proof plans to fix it. We well for the services meme, got rid of all our production jobs, still kept the high minimum wage and have people entirely dependent on welfare. Every budget they drain different sectors from funding to support welfare. This is why our education system (among other sectors) is fucking garbage. Weep for the future m8 - it's looking grim.

>>381330182
I think it's pretty much only the depiction of Nazi Iconography anymore that's a no-go. Otherwise you just get a 18+ label slapped on, which is practically free advertising.

>>381329821
whoops meant to reply that to you.

Thanks! We are really looking forward to the break.

>>381327053
Although it is nice to know I can move anywhere except Hong Kong and totally be able to afford it. So.. there's that.

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TAXING DIGITAL SHITTT

>tax digital goods
>"Good now they'll buy locally"
>doesn't realise Australia has 0 industry outside of mining

Country's fucked lads everyone out

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i fucking hate ebay tax. i decided on a whim to purchase a 3.5K box of legendary collection last year, only to have it taxed a further 700 dollarydoos because of some bullshit "import tax".

WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO PAY 20 GOD DAMN PERCENT TO SOME LITERAL WHO FOR A PRIVATE PURCHASE???!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!

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>>381328516
>>381328804
>>381328904
Here's reality, you dumb fucking weaboos. Do NOT think of living in Japan. Yeah, visiting and staying for few weeks is cool, but DO NOT WORK OR LIVE IN JAPAN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Z2O9Nwt6c

>>381331279

>Announce tax as part of budget to get monies
>Make an announcement and set a date
>Have no clue how to do it
>No-one else has a clue how to do it
>Multinational corporations have no clue how it'll be done and some are just saying 'get fucked'
>Bill postponed until they figure out how to do it

It stands a chance of just dying. All this for an extra $350m between 2017-2019? What a fucking joke.

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>>381331279
Could we invade burger land and open up a centrelink and servo to keep us going?

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why the fuck would you game in australia? Don't you have shit online experience? I would immediately movee

>>381328904

I've lived in Japan for over 6 years, central Tokyo. Apartments are small but reasonably priced for a large city. You can find studios for about $600 a month. My place is $750 and it's big for one person.

Food is cheap if you go grocery shopping. Eating out can be fairly cheap as well provided you don't binge and stay away from high end places. I have lived off of a $200 monthly food budget before but it was difficult. $3-400 a month and you can eat very well. Again this is all in Tokyo; in smaller cities everything is cheaper.

Teaching English is the easiest route to get started with. Jobs are plentiful and the pay is decent. I've heard you get more out in the countryside but work is scarcer. Actual Japanese work culture is brutal and stifling, highly not recommended. Many foreigners insist on trying it but almost all end up overworked, underpaid, stressed out and generally unhappy. Working for a foreign firm in Japan is supposed to be better but again jobs are hard to come by unless you are a specialist in a limited number of fields.

>>381331465

I mean I agree. But the guy you linked is the biggest deadbeat in the world, he's like autism incarnate.

>>381329281
>That and their work/life culture is honestly garbage.
work culture is shit everywhereyou dumb cuck

>>381329820
Nigger I've been in central Tokyo near Ueno for years and it is nowhere near that bad. The most I paid for a 1-bedroom was $800 a month.

>>381331758
He showed the guy's video at 3:40.

>>381325989
Fuck I can't wait until I move to the US in December.

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>That feel when still awaiting this countries collapse

Their inconveniences are their own, just a few more years of dumb shit and I'm out to greener pastures nigga

I can bet in 5 to 10 more years they'll STILL be arguing about how fast internet is the devil

>>381327053
All three of those California places make sense since it's square right in the bay area, where all "100k+ starting" jobs are.

Living in Santa Cruz would be living the life. Imagine being within biking distance of the beach and less than a 20 minute drive to work and due to constant tourism the city is always alive with events every week and new people.

>>381331465
It isn't for everyone. You spend a lot of time alone, probably more than you're used to. The fag in that video is a bum however. If you listen to the whole thing, which I unfortunately did, he clearly came over with a set vision of Japan in his head and was then disappointed when it did not turn out to be like he thought it would.Your mileage may vary but if you come here with an open mind you'll find it to be a pretty great country.

He also says living in China is much better and I call bullshit on that. China is a shithole by any standard.

>>381331928
>fast internet is the devil
tell me this is actually a thing

>>381331279
>want people to buy local
>don't make buying local more attractive
>make importing more difficult

What a bunch of stupid fucking cunts.

>>381332262
I'm convinced that the NBN is an elaborate ruse set up by the government to try and keep us quiet, I don't know anyone who has it.

>>381332262
It's not considered the devil, but internet as a commodity is basically ignored by our politicians. The entire country is run by people who think the only relevant jobs are coal mining, healthcare, or trades, so software and tech industries tend to suffer. Our internet is utter shit because they simply don't see having first-world internet speeds as being a priority, and we're lift with copper-wire that's slower than the standards of Latvia and Peru.

>>381327532
There's still hope
https://www.google.ca/amp/globalnews.ca/news/3530258/netflix-tax-committee-report/amp/

>>381331465

10th month of living in Japan here.

If you work shit conditions it's because your field is shit. I don't earn that much but I work at a low stress job with tons of free time and no real problems that regular salarymen have. People are super fucking nice and if you don't follow their culture they just dismiss it as being a clueless foreign, their expectations for their own are not held for me at all.

>>381332262

Its more the tech companies asking for faster infrastructure so they can be more productive and the pollies just tell them to get stuffed because their facebook pages load just fine.

>tfw Amazon is coming to Australia next year

I can't wait until those smarmy retail fucks who have been gouging the Australian consumer for years finally have an online competitor.

>>381332492
Wasn't there some big plan to get better Internet but then your politards decided that it's a "bad idea" just 'cause?

>>381332415
I have it. It's pathetic. The TPG fibre I used to have at my old place was better. So dumb.

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>BAWWW THEY ARE TAXING ME I DESERVE TO SELL FOR FREE BAAWWWWWWWWWW
Really? There's no reason to not tax digital services or online sales
>but but taxes are theft, muh gubmint muh librul, muh Honk Kong and free markets
Stop larping and read your own laws

>>381332720
I think they were building a national broadband network, then a different party got voted in and sold it all to private companies

privatisation is hilarious

>>381332415
I've got it. I also live on an old farmhouse in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with nothing but goannas for neighbours. The availability stops right when you get to the border of the nearest town.

Good. FUCK the aussies. They are literally the descendents of the absolute trash of my country sent off to inhabit a shithole to avoid prison time.

The funny part is that they all believe that THEIR descendents did nothing wrong, that it's the "english aussies" who were the real criminals.

>>381332616
I know its going to be yet another kick in the economy's dick but they had fucking years to get their shit in order but instead decided to be cunts and now have the nerve to talk shit about the govt for not saving them from amazon. Disgusting lizard people desu

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>>381326084
china is artificially inflating it

>>381332845

we're not saying they shouldn't we're saying that they've gone about it in the most incompetent manner possible.

>>381332720
Yep, the NBN. We currently use a copper-wire system that gets extremely bottlenecked, so during times when everyone's using internet (so mornings and evenings), it becomes slow as shit, especially in rural areas. It's also just fucking slow in general, due to being fucking copper-wire.

The NBN was a plan to upgrade the nation to a fiber-optic cable system and give our speeds a massive boost. It basically would have been Australia's digital equivalent of Eisenhower's highway system.

But we've had 5 Prime Ministers in 5 years, our politics has fallen to shit with people appealing to the major voting bases (i.e. baby boomers) and stuff that costs a lot but only benefits the younger generations gets pushed aside.

Basically our internet is crippled, when it has no reason to be so.

Who is going to win the toiletb owl? Canada or Australia?

>>381332986
Pure fucking autism.

>>381333217
Both are shit, but at least Australians are cool people.

>>381332596
What field are you working, then?

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and this is on a good day in a capital city.

>>381333481
canberra? living in gungahlin here and getting good speeds because nbn

>>381333658
Brissie lad.

UP THE MAROONS CUNT

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>>381325989
>>381331919

it's not just australia, internet tax is coming to the USA soon too

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>>381325989
This fucking continent. Jesus fuck, I wish I could move somewhere else before Australia just collapses under it's own incompetence.

>>381333739
FUCK THE BLUES THEY FELL APART IN THE LAST 30 MINS
also the refs were trash for both sides, genuinely unbelievable they missed that many blatant calls

>>381332720
The Labor party started implementing the National Broadband Network, which was designed to upgrade Australia's online infrastructure. Not long after work on it started the Liberal party was voted in and severely reduced the scope of the project, under the guise of saving time and costs.

This was years ago and the project still hasn't been rolled out in significant areas of Australia and costs have ballooned beyond the estimates of Labor's initial plans. Furthermore the "upgrades" are basically almost obsolete already by modern standards, with some customers complaining that their internet speeds are the same or worse than prior to the NBN. So basically our internet infrastructure is fucked for the foreseeable future, and I have no hope of any political parties changing that.

>>381333845
dual-citizenship is the only way to live.

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>>381333937
I want to move back to England, but it doesn't seem much better there. I feel like I'm trapped in a box with no way out and I'm scared.

>>381330310
It's only nazi shit on kids stuff and games are all considered kids stuff, you can have swastikas and such in movies and shows

>>381333916

Don't forget the Nationals initially rejected a FttN NBN by Labor as fraudband and this caused Labor to adopt the FttP NBN. Then Liberals and Labor called that fraudband and wanted to go back to FttN.

http://www.fionanash.com.au/Media/MediaReleases/tabid/84/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/213/LABORS-RURAL-FRAUDBAND.aspx

>want decent internet
>live in fuckhole no where town
WARHJKHB AUSTRALIA internet SUCKS!

>>381333805
>Out of state businesses have to pay tax for a state they don't reside in
How in the fuck is that supposed to be enforced? What recourse does Washington have if the business owner just wiped their ass all over the demand letter?

>>381334138
The UK is shit, but at least we've got decent cheap internet now. I pay 18 bongs a month for 60mbps.

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>>381325989
EMUS WILL NEVER LEARN

YOUR MONEY BELONGS TO ME

>>381334192

Second sentence should say Liberals and Nationals. My bad.

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>>381328781
and what's your opinion on funding education

Fuck telstra and their politics.
We could've gottent ridiculously fast internet but they pulled string because they don't wanna spend money changing wires.

>>381332616
>australia doesnt have amazon in 2017

fucking hell, i heard the 'australia is 10 years behind the 1st world' meme on /int/ but i didnt think it was true, but after seeing your internet and not having amazon im shocked. how are you so shit? youre a british colony, everyone is white, you get good wages etc why are you so backward

>>381334634
Australians fell for the "she'll be right" meme.

>>381326084
When has Australia ever into economics?
They tend to fuck themselves up all the time.

>>381334765
hawke government

>taxation is a barrier to economic activity
who'da thunk?

>>381334183
Not really, you can only have swastikas on stuff called "art" and videogames are not considered art (yet?)

>>381326165
Just Target. But Target is fucking shit anyway, nobody shops there for video games. You either buy from JB Hi-Fi, online or as a last resort EB Games (Gamestop).

>>381334634
aussie government would rather you buy a peice of shit bogan built car for 100k than import a porsche for half. its literally illegal to import cars to here. the government likes to think its 1400s and other countries dont exist/its impossible to get there/get stuff from there

>>381328995
true actually

>>381334249
tons of bills get introduced and no senators or congressmen ever consider voting for them. it's weird jewery and filibustering

>digital goods are op yet local goods are up
>nerf digital goods a little
>don't even buff local goods
australians can't into economics metagame

The imaginary man who moves packets and bytes around needs a raise?
How the fuck can you tax more for digital data?

>want to buy the witcher 3
>even though its the exact same product as the usa version, have to pay twice as much from steam as them
>its 40gb
>my 200kb a sec internet that costs 40 a month takes so long that by the time its done witcher 4 is out

>>381335372
Games cost more in Australia because Australians are willing to pay more. You only have yourselves to blame.

>>381335206
well, this one was real enough for ebay to send me this message asking me to petition against it

>>381335562
Doesn't help our dollar is utter shit.

>>381334250
still can't believe they banned fucking porn videos, like female squirting or "rough sex" etc.

>>381332845
fuck off commie

>>381335562

we have to pay more because there are no other options

its either you pay what they want or you cant get it at all. australia wants australian companies to have monopolies and give us no choice

>>381334634
>everyone is white
cao ni ma dis our land now

>>381327053
Toronto will probably be on that list soon enough
God somebody help us

>>381332845
>taxation isn't theft
lmao

>>381335725
Careful now, we don't want any free trade globalist shilling here.

Alright lads serious question time. When do we gas the boomers?

>>381336015
they gas themselves so no worries.

>>381336015
Never. We are supposed to be better than them, not the same as them.

>>381333937
>>381334138

>unemployed in Australia
>all jobs are casual based jobs
>give up and move to the UK
>barely apply for jobs
>everyone responds back and gives me interviews
>get comfy as fuck job
>make $600+ a week tax free
>work can't stop asking me for overtime
>mfw own my own house
>super fast 200mbit internet for only $30 a month
>mobile phone has unlimited data and only $20 a month
>become fat as fuck because rich as fuck for the first time
>realise I'm in the UK
>move back to Australia
>unemployed
>have to live with parents
>internet always disconnects every hour
>houses are super inflated
>"get a home loan/credit card"
>mfw Australia

>>381336015

We don't. We wait for them to slowly pass away one-by-one and leave us nothing because it turns out they never owned the houses they were just paying mortgages until their death.

Then we become the system we hated and keep the cycle rolling.

>Netflix finally comes to Austrlia
>foxtel goes fucking crazy
>stan is introduced and tries to steal netflix's userbase, presto too
>They all have to lower prices like crazy to compete.
>Still can't compete.

Hahahahahah.
I fucking love you America I can't wait for amazon, to fuck over retailers too and give us cheaper shit.

>>381336197
Fuck that. I'm not buying a house anywhere that has property tax, because you don't own it if you're paying property tax, anyways. Also, I'll never take out a mortgage. I've got 200 grand tied up in investments for the next 5 years. If I find a property I want that doesn't have property tax, I'll buy it outright.

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>>381336326

>go to Australian retail store
>they don't have it
>Australian retail industry

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>>381325989
>literal dinosaurs roams your backyards
>every animal can kill you
>descendants of Britain's undesirables
>government censors your games
>everyone loves your hooning
>toilet flows the other way
>government is now taxing your shit to death
No wonder you guys shitpost all the time.

>>381336015
As the old saying goes "The best time to plant a tree was two weeks ago. The second best time is now."

>>381336197
But then we just become a Chinese owned colony at that stage. We need to stage a coup or revolution to retake our country.

I delayed on upgrading my PC for ages, since 2 years before Ryzen. Nothing fucking changed, so I'm buying a gtx 10 series now along with a killer monitor. I won't regret it since that will be $200 tax for no fucking reason in a fortnight.

>>381336326
Retailers are already shitting themselves over it, there's going to be lethal levels of salt when Amazon actually opens up and it is going to be hilarious.

>>381336178
>£600 a week tax free
u wot m8

>>381336416
>I've got 200 grand tied up in investments for the next 5 years.
Lucky bastard. Any beginner tips?

>>381333805
>most cucked state in the union

You're surprised?

>>381336540

inb4 news headlines

>Is buying from Amazon unaustralian?
>If you buy from Amazon then ISIS wins, an opinion piece by Waleed Aly
>Giving local brick and mortars a fair go
>The multinational shakedown of true blue Aussie industry

>>381325989
Doesnt this mean any body's dlc and In app purchases for mobile games are also taxed?

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>>381336687
>most cucked state in the union
Objection!

>>381336763

That will be the case, yes.

>>381336569

You can earn upto £11,500 tax free.

https://www.gov.uk/income-tax-rates

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>>381331415
Who even proposed the tax? Do you guys have that problem too where old people are mad that those meany weany millennial won't shop at their shitty overpriced store?

>>381336678
Not really. I'm just doing it to break even after taxes and inflation. Got lucky on bitcoin a few years back, cashed out and went to an investment firm and told them what I wanted.

I think there's some robot that can help you for dirt cheap. Seems to do a really good job at advising, from what I hear. Can't remember the name, though. It gets mentioned on Aaron Clarey's podcast almost every episode, though.

>>381334250
>tfw east euro
>900Mbit down 300Mbit up for 12€

Feels good to have 5 ISPs competing for roughly 30 square km

>>381333805
>Washington state wants to impose tax on anything involving Washington
>Businesses on the digital chain pull their devices outside of Washington
>Washington becomes the new Detroit
Top kek

Why would you want to live in Australia? Florida is pretty much Australia except without the absurd taxes and price-gouging.

>Buy a game from a store: pay tax, that's just how it is
>Buy the same game online: REEEE HOW DARE THEY TRY TO COLLECT TAX THIS IS SO UNFAIR

This balance patch was way overdue mates

>>381337215
I don't know how Washington continues to function.

>>381337316
And gun ownership.

>>381336840
£660 a week times 52 is £34k
Also how the fuck did you get unlimited data for £20 a month on a phone. Even GiffGaff don't do that shit any more

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>>381337058
>A fucking leaf.
>Only two major internet companies in West Canada.
>They will fucking go crying to the senate if any kind of competition springs up at all.

There's a town near Calgary called Olds that was so sick with how a ISP was treating them that they set up their own network and get roughly 1000/1000 speeds per house. Last time I talked to someone from Olds they said that the original ISP threw a shit fit and tried to get the network handed off to them even though it was privately owned by the town itself, though I don't know how true that is.

hello my bogan friends, come to texas

>>381325989
strayas BTFO

this is appalling

>>381337316
>Why would you want to live in Australia?
Why wouldn't you want to live in Australia?

>>381336909

It was the Coalition government.

In Aus theres:

>Labor party who are the unions / workers / muh true blue aussies.
>The National party who are the muh rural issues what about muh farmers
>The Liberal party (who are actually socially conservative but liberal in the economic sense of muh free market but not really) and closer to American republicans than you may think.

The Nationals and Liberals formed the LNP Coalition to stand better chances at beating Labor. Elections are tug-of-war between an Australian population that goes 'ow! I'm never voting Labor!' then 'ow! I'm never voting Liberal!' with the added issue of leadership challenges and political scandals meaning leadership of the parties change and there is tons of backstabbing.

Imagine musical chairs with out of touch old classical liberals, farmers, and out of touch baby boomers. Political dissatisfaction is high and the hilarious racist "One Nation" party of Pauline 'please explain' Hanson fame got a LOT of protest votes as a 'fuck you' to everything that's happened since around 2010.

>>381335663
I think they banned the production of them because I haven't ever seen any block of them

>>381337518
I have a job interview in 40 minutes for Arkansas. Little Rock. Checking out the city's stats on the web, it seems like a shit hole. But they are offering me 35/hr, so I may as well hear them out.

Seems like the best paying places are all in liberal shitholes (I dunno if Little Rock is liberal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was, looking at that crime rate)..

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>>381337316
Well for one, no Florida people.

just pirate

>>381338046
THIS

>Live in Perth
>Skilled jobs already scarce
>Won't be able to even get a job in this city when I graduate
>Having to save and hope to christ I can get a job in another state on graduation

Yeah because I'm going to keep spending the precious little money I have on taxed games when we're in an economic downturn and I could just pirate them.

>>381338046
they get taxed when they pirate as well

No cunt that's earning under 25k a year should be taxed. Tax is only meant for people who have money, not the ones without.

>>381337478

Mate read it again, I never said £660. I never even said 660.

Back in 2014 I got offered by Three Mobile, 10gbp a month with 300 minutes worth of calls, unlimited text and unlimited data. You weren't allowed to tether, but if you rooted your phone then you could bypass it.

Shit was cash, I sat outside a 4G cell tower.

>>381337316
Florida is shit

t. Floridian

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>>381338046
Can't, internet too shit.

>>381338274
Any place with a significant voting population that is liberal is shit.

>>381338171
Gotta pay for that Pirate License.

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>4chan is full of aussie cunts because it's the only website that load properly
kek

>>381337374
>buy a physical good, pay tax, fair enough
>pay tax on a download on a service you're already paying for and being taxed on

Yeah, nah, get fucked cunt

>>381338340
you still have to download all your shit
even if you get 25 gbs of the game on blu-ray you usually have to dl 5 gbs of first-day patches etc

Sales tax in my town is like 9.8%, so I just pay the dollar every 6 months to forward mail from my parents address. They only pay 5% sales tax.

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>>381338439
On good days I can get 480p on Youtube, but at random it decides it wants 144p or 240p. I hate this place and its internet.

>fucking 1 am for most of australia
do none of you have work in the morning?

>>381338746
Then move somewhere else. Your property is so fucking expensive, I don't know how you guys don't try immigrating.

>>381338802
its a long slog to centrelink but we're a tough bunch

>>381338802
Uni holidays mate

>tfw people are exchanging money and you aren't skimming your cut

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>>381338802
>do none of you have work in the morning?
>working morning shift
>not based arvo shift

>>381338885
>tfw too stupid to get on centrelink
i should just cave in and try work at fucking coles or something

>>381338547
I've been on both sides of the fence. Currently got NBN that mostly works except when local council starts fucking with the irrigation systems and somehow crawls the entire network to a fucking halt for a month but also had the joy of downloading a game more than twice my allotted monthly limit.

>>381338802
I don't sleep much.

Jesus what's going on in Australia? Last few years they've been getting fucked hardcore.

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>>381326084
no taxes =/= good economics. thats libertarian bs.

taxxing the poor and working class with sales tax and shit like this instead of the australian bourgouise is fucked tho

>>381328516
>moving to a xenophobic country with California-prices, strict social "honor codes", shark employers, 7-day work schedules and high suicide rates for a reason

Japan's good for visiting, not for living.

>>381338982
trying to get a job at any major supermarket is fucking impossible, they are constantly full and everything is already taken. I go to my local Woolies and for the past 7 years I've seen the exact same faces there every week. Same thing with IGA or Coles.

>>381339180
Same thing as Canada

>Aging population of fucktard Boomers
>Disenfranchised voterbases
>Chinese money raping the real estate market

>>381339180
The Jews remembered we exist.

>>381338046

>900kb/s download
>7.3kb/s upload

>>381337874
It's more liberal than the rest of the state but it's still a fairly right-leaning state overall.

>>381339293
Flat tax seems to serve the areas it is implemented in the best. Like Texas, which gets all its revenue from sales tax. No property tax, no income. But the poor bitch and moan so much that they do shit like property tax, which they don't think they'll have to pay, but will pay it in rent anyways.

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>>381338802

>>381328516
A 1 bedroom apartment in AZ costs that per-month, you'll like it much more here if one of you doesn't mind bedding in the living room.

>>381331415
They start doing it because most people use it as a business, so they need to offer ways for business owners to have their GST automatically added.

>>381339427
The crime is outrageous. Even if I get the job and take it, I can't see myself living within city limits.

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>faster than 52%

>>381339321
well fuck
some ACA story a few months ago was criticising aussie "NEETs" saying there were jobs available at their local woolies

>>381339321

I go to my fucking Woolies and have to wait until the old cunt to try and understand how the selve serve works because there's no cunts working at a till anymore.

>>381336326
Stan's library is a hell of a lot fucking better than the Netflix library though.

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>>381331415
sup fellow factory sealed fag

>>381339689
ot it sim

>>381330283
It really shows I live in bumfuckville, I live in a 3 bed, 2 bathroom with terrace for 300€ a month.

>>381338746
got anymore bird memes like this one?

i remember seeing some others.

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>>381325989
>Fucking private sellers who probably can't take the hit with a humongous tax as opposed to taxing businesses who totally can take the hit.

Did E-bay fuck the PM's sister or something? The only reason I can think of to do something like this is to ensure businesses don't get undercut by secondhand sellers in the most dickish way possible.

>>381339671
Woolies staff here. Wages just got another cut cause it's end of financial year and the powers that be need their bonuses, so expect barely a skeleton crew even at rush hours.

>gonna have to pay $10-15 extra a month for the nbn with no extra speed or benefits
Why do Government projects always go pear shaped?

>>381339791
you could get roommates at that rate and make profit, are you sure thats right

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>>381339504
flat tax is fucking retarded. its a way for that billionaire to pay way less in taxes then he should be and for the NEET virgin autist who makes less than 100 dollars a year to fork over money he doesn't have.

the working class and poor should not be paying any taxes whatsoever, no matter what porky says. their income is a drop in the bucket compared to those who own the means of production

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>>381339884
If you want some more, look up "Guide to Troubled Birds".

>>381339991

It's always skeleton crews now, it shits me off every time I have to go to Woolies because of it.

Meanwhile IGA is always booming, great variety, just a tad more expensive.

>>381339952
Businesses still have to pay the taxes, they just pay it on their quarterly/yearly instead of at the time of sale. This is to make sure everyone selling something pays since your average person selling a few things probably never paid the taxes before.

>>381340080
>I demand equality!
>Why do I have to pay taxes? REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>381328516
nigga a week?
I live in texas and my mortgage is about 900 dollars a month for a 5 bedroom house on a 5 acre lot.

>>381340080
>that image

No the problem is continents like Africa and most of China screwing up the numbers with their huge numbers of apes and insectoids.

Also those 4 people are all Jewish, funny how they leave that fact out.

>>381327586
start up an organized and prolonged crime spree in that area and watch the property values plummet then swooce right in pick up the "scraps"

>>381340279
alternatively you could just use illegal methods to gain money and buy it

Australia is such a fucking shit hold

>>381340224
thats probably in aussie fun bucks, i hear a loaf of bread is like 1 trillion

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>>381331415
btw you can completely avoid having to pay any sort of tax if you write "GIFT" on the box.

dont ever tell the shipping company that you are selling shit, just ship everything as gift.


the day i decided to sell all my pokemon cards (made around $4.5k) some bitch in britain bought them. she had to pay some sort of duty tax that cost like 500 bucks and she wanted me to pay it, all because i didn't write GIFT on the box.

tldr: if shipping expensive shit internationally always ship as gift

>>381340173
This. IGA/Foodland is the way to go. Fuck Coles and Woolworths.

>>381331465
>it's not like i wake up everyday and im like "OH YEA IM IN JAPAN!"
> i wake up every morning and be like "GODAMN IM IN JAPAN!"

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>>381340220
ahahaha you stupid ignorant fool

>>381333202
>5 Prime Ministers in 5 years
Fucking hell are you competing with Spain for the "Most presidents in a year" award?

>>381326084
It's an island filled with spiders and crocodiles. They can't into anything.

>>381340601

Word of warning though, don't ever fuck with the ATO.

>>381340795
You are the one who regurgitates Marxist crap without understanding that if there are no classes while supporting the taxation of the richest then everyone has to be taxed equally.

>>381340871
Enjoying that wifi anon?

>>381339674
>supporting sketchy Aussie businesses that prevents international business that gives the consumer a better deal.

It doesn't really bother me if they have things I want to watch. I'd rather have neflix than allow all this shit continue.
Netflix was perhaps the best thing that happened to Australian tv, people are moving on and stopping paying 100 bucks a month for foxtel.
The only thing left is sport really and no other place gives them that but foxtel.
If sport goes foxtel goes.

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>>381340871
That's just a load of bollocks sold to tourists. Nobody gets harmed by some spider waddling about and anyone that gets attacked by a croc is a fucking halfwit.

Why is there tax on digital goods?

>>381341143
Cause australia is fucking retarded

>>381341143
Because retarded boomers think that's the only way to do business in this country.

>>381338814
I'd imagine a lot of the people posting here are in their late teens or early twenties and don't really have the means to emigrate without taking a hit to their living standards. Meaning they're either studying, or don't have the work experience to seek a career.
Plus, outside of the cost of everything this is actually a great place to live. High standard of living, good weather and safety. There's a reason our cities keep getting ranked so highly.

I plan on moving out of this country once I graduate and can find a job elsewhere, but that has little to do with being unable to make a life here and more to do with wanting to escape from everything I know now.

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>>381341143
jews want to control the internet and ensure you pay the shoah tax

>>381325989
Good, fuck online shopping. Shut-in nerds want to force everyone to be as lonely and virginal as them, and make everyone blind in their 40s from constantly staring into bright computer screens. Should go out and buy things at a store like a normal person. Maybe we can get something like this in America to BTFO Geofredo Bezosos 4ever.

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>>381341371
t. pic related

>>381341334
>$10,000 for an AR

That fucking sucks. I spent $500 on mine.

>>381339321
Yeah, good luck getting a casual job at any major chain or franchise without being a literal child. Why pay someone adult wages when you can pay a 16 year old $10 an hour?

>>381341371
>Should go out and buy things at a store like a normal person
I'm not driving fucking 6.5hrs just to make a fucking purchase.

>>381340006
Because we have 3 year election cycles.
By the time a government manages to get any project started, it's time for the next one to step in and mess around with it. There's a reason our infrastructure has stagnated over the last 30 years.

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>>381341371

>>381341314

Where would you go though?

>>381341143
Fewer property taxes being paid as online shopping replaces high-street shopping but the government still wants their cut.

>>381341143
Local retailers inflating prices because no competition, forcing droves of consumers to import because it is cheaper even with shipping prices. Instead of noticing they're pushing consumers away and reining in the rampant greed to make buying local actually worthwhile they try to fuck up digital and online shopping to try and force people back, making themselves look like even bigger villains and idiots than before.

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fda

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>>381341371

>drive 30 minutes to store
>do you have x product
>sorry we don't have it, but we can order it in for you
>30 minute drive home
>60 minutes worth of wasted time and fuel

Yea nah, Australian retail industry deserves to perish.

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>>381341757
>but the government still wants their cut.
The banking jews have been pressuring me to put more money into the account and spend more for some reason.

I've never had anyone at a bank tell me that up until recently.

Can't you use VPNs?

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>>381332068
>Santa Barbara
>Bay Area

>>381342043
Of course we do. There's a reason Australia is one of the leading countries in piracy.

>>381341861
fucking call first dumbass

>>381341910

I've been constantly pressured into getting a home loan ever since I came back to Australia, 2 of my friends have already fallen for it.

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>>381342289
>2 of my friends have already fallen for it.
hehe, take out that VARIABLE interest home loan goy

>protectionism is bad
Heh, all that matters to /v/ kids is their shitty videogames. Wish my country had something like that so we wouldn't be literally a jewish puppet.

>>381342286

>call retail store
>hi, do you have x product
>one moment please
>5 minutes go by
>we don't seem to have that product but we can order it in for you

>>381342374

>tfw just saving up my centrelink monies

>>381342289
My friend took out a fucking car loan last year.
He had the money to outright buy the fucking thing, but he went and got himself a loan.

>>381342530
>call retail store

yea man makes more sense than driving and finding out..... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

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>>381339689
>Be murrican factory seal fag
>about 5 years ago
>One of my young nephews is over
>He's interested in the card packs
>Fuck it, let him have one of the easily replaceable recent ones
>mfw he gets the rarest card in the entire set, worth an estimated 180 dollars.

I wrapped that shit in one of my best card protectors and told him to take extra good care of it and to not trade it away no matter what.

It got him into collecting too. He's not as hyper autistic about it as I am but he's snagged himself a few good pieces here and there.

>>381341861
>>381342530
>before
>"hi do you have x product"
>"no sorry"
>"ok"

>today
>"hi do you have x product"
>"no sorry"
>"T-... THIS CANNOT STAND!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE TO BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY"
this is exactly why we need digital tax

>We need more people to come to this barren wasteland
>Oh shit people are coming in let's focus on building houses. Fuck technology.
>What?! Are you kidding me people use technology a lot?
>Hmmm the opposing political party setting up really fast internet.
>H-hey guys we know technology is important please vote for us the thing their building is too expensive, plus Telstra is throwing a hissy fit.
>okay you should get your NBN sometime this decade or next couple of them.
>Hahaha WTF technology is important???? Nobody wants that shit.
>Everybody put your prices up come on we need a profit.
>What the fuck, why don't you buy our overpriced shit? Fuck you, we'll put a tax on your digital goods.

Aussie_Aussie_Aussie_Oy_Oy_Oy.jpg

>>381342289
I'm 5 years into mine. Should have just stayed at the parents.

>>381342763
why didnt you just murder him and take it back?

>>381340067
Owner doesn't allow me to do that, not that I would want to have more people living here. And for the record I live in a village, no one wants to live in a village if they don't have a job.

>>381342780
you must dissent
this thread presents some pretty good arguments like how importing is cheaper, which is retarded and local prices getting jacked up and this new tax on internet good and for what

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>>381342584

After my mate got a loan for his house, he instantly went out and got a loan for a new $100,000 ute.

>>381342639

That's why I just buy online you fucking dolt.

>>381342772

Once Amazon arrives it will shatter the entire industry. I know you're shitposting so here's a >>(you)

>>381342859

My parents earn great money and I'm lucky enough to know that they understand what the youth are going through right now. I actually caught my Dad browsing /pol/ one day, fucking traumatised me.

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>>381343196
>I actually caught my Dad browsing /pol/ one day
That's hilarious.
>dad anon shitposting in aus/pol/

>>381343196
oh im sorry i was assuming you were pointing out one of those "slice of life" moments
calling first is still a good idea, ASSUMING the product you want is at a store you intend to shop at

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This extends to in game currency.
This extends to an australian buyer selling in Australia
Internationals n companies don't wanna deal with the gst and are backing out.

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>>381332986
>1 GBPS
>High speed

Oh I'm laffin

>>381333805
neat. time to riot.

>>381326426
>Both hotspots for chinks buying up land
Really ponders the old bonce

Most of our problems come from our aging population.

Young people (i.e. people that actual worry about the future) are the minority, so our opinions don't matter to politicians.

It's like living in an elderly home. We need to get the fuck out and let them fuck themselves.

That's what you aussies get for shitposting so much. You, hues and Canadians all deserve it

I heard that land almost as big as portugal was sold to a chink. Is this true?

>>381333805
The thing is, we already have to pay sales tax on Amazon because they're headquartered here. I wonder if Amazon pushed for the bill to reduce competition.

I'd be less pissed if we didn't have so many bullshit taxes in Puget Sound. Half my tax rate is paying for stadiums and buses in Seattle when I live in Pierce County.

>>381338802
NEET master race

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I live in a fucking capital city here in Australia and the net regularly drops out, fucking ridiculous

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>>381327532
Hahaha

>>381327053
fucking chinks.

>>381328660
you have no idea about what socialism is dumb nigger

>>381328781
People are more important than the economy

>>381339293
what the fuck happened in 1973?

>>381350428
>Whiting out the cancermeme.com watermark
>Not just cropping it

>>381350428
That's a really terrible, unfunny image. It's blatantly obvious that the top pic was never made to stand on its own, and only exists for the excuse to put Hitler beneath it.

>>381325989
What fucking cancer. So glad I moved out of that shithole.

Sometimes I go back to visit and bring in a bunch of shit to sell online for easy money. Thankfully that does not effect me because I'm a resident (technically)

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>>381334250
Too bad you can't get the panda there.

>>381354109
I've never had an issue accessing it. The obscenity laws are something that's never enforced, there are bigger fish to fry than masturbators.

>>381354463
>there are bigger fish to fry than masturbators
Yeah like proponents of "hate" speech