Will you ever forgive him?

Forgive, huh?

>>381325618

Hayter did nothing wrong except whine like a little bitch when he got cucked by Kiefer.

>>381325831
He threw a pretty big tantrum. It really changed my opinion of him

>>381325874
Do you really blame him? He got fucked out of a role he has played for years. Maybe he whined a bit to much and for a bit to long, but he got a raw deal. They basically told him "get fucked" and gave his role to someone who wasnt that great. Keifer wasnt terrible, but he wasnt as good as David would have done.

I would have been pissed too.

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>>381325618
Kiefer is better than him anyway. Who even care about him.

>>381325680
made me kek

He should be ashamed of himself after peacewalker

>>381325680
Forgive, huh, huh?

I remember hearing (online discussion sources, so take it with a grain of salt) back when Twin Snakes was being made that Konami was only willing to pay for him to return and everyone else was going to be recast, until he used his own money to get them back, which if true makes his ouster very ironic. For my part, I skipped MGS5 not because he wasn't there, but because they went with Keef instead of Richard Doyle, Ron Perlman, or hell, anyone with more talent than fucking Keef. Dodged a bullet, I suppose.

>>381326039
>he wasnt as good as David would have done
Hayter got consistently worse as the series progressed. His voice sounded too plain and clean in MGS3, and way too gruff in PW. Hell, he should have never voiced Big Boss to begin with, and Kojima has intended to replace Hayter since then.
He only gets a pass for MGS4 somewhat because he was supposed to sound like an old man, but still felt pretty forced.

>>381325618
Forgive him for what? what did he do, now?
He voiced the main character in my favorite game of all time, he's alright in my book.

>>381326039
I like the Kief as a voice actor and everything. But if they point of changing voices was to give (((Snake))) 3 lines in the entire game, then what's the point?

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>>381326758
He literally cried like a bitch for almost a whole year

>>381325618
>Still whines to this day about being replaced
>The only other person on this silly strike, along with fucking Ashley Burch of all people

Nah, he can get fucked. The only reason Kojimbo wanted him in the forst place was because he was in an action movie or two. Sutherland does circles around Hayter in acting and voice acting.

>>381326991
>im going to not work and get paid, thatll show em

Seriously why?

The most iconic voice in gaming

Prove me wrong

>>381325618
lol what a fag

>>381327147
Not even close

>>381326950
Wouldn't you? The fact that more MGS fans didn't complain about it was kind of surprising. He voiced these characters for like 15 years. And then we got Kiefer recording like 40 seconds of audio for V.

>>381327147
bing bing wahoo man has him beat

>>381327129
Unions are mafias

>>381326950
I also remember when Hayter had a conversation with YongYea, he accused Kojima of being jealous of him getting too much fame or credit for his role or whatever.
At the same time, he also said (and I'm pretty sure this was all in the same interview) that Kojima wanted to replace him for Kurt Russel in MGS3.
Now think about those two claims for a second, they don't make any sense. If Kojima was jealous or some shit, why the fuck would he hire a celebrity who's more popular than the creator among the general populace? Hayter just acted like a bitch that whole time.

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>Fire Hayter to get some of that B-list celeb cock
>crash the franchise and the company

Hayter could have probably collaborated with someone for an unofficial voice replacer mod or smething, right? Why didn't he?

>>381327467
That would be really sad.

Kiefer Sutherland
David Hayter is salty
MGSV shit

>>381327467
Hes tried to do several fanmade projects. Konami shuts them down. He even offered to pay for one of them if i remember correctly

>>381327147
This is true. Everyone else sounds like Nolan North for some reason.

>>381327540
Nice haiku you got
Anon took english classes
Hayter is a shit

>>381327403
Is he, dare I say, "our" guy?

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>>381327649
Sure, his spergy attitude fits /v/ perfectly.

>>381326664
it's all voice directing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgwu2Byjx-Q

>>381326854
>what was the point
Kojima pleasing Avi Arad to open doors in Hollywood.
Bet your ass that's why he chose Keifer of all things.

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>>381327854
Holy shit. He's such a little faggot and I love it.

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>>381325618
Kiefer Sutherland was a better Big Boss than Hayter. It's just a shame that they didn't let him speak much

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>replaced by this guy

Lmoa

>>381328615
>Kiefer Sutherland was a better Big Boss than Hayter
Man, MGS V was such a disappointment, I honestly don't know what's wrong with Kojimafags.

>>381326039
>Do you really blame him?
Yes. He was like a little child. Adults accept it and move on, they are not married to those companies.

>>381325618
For writing the world's worst Watchmen screenplay.
No

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>>381326950
>>381327854
> tfw he's more [Nuclear] than Keef has ever been

>>381328254
This tells me he can only do MGS1/2 roles really well, so I still stand by my opinion he should have never voiced Big Boss. It should have been a different VA as to give the character his own identity. Ironically as it stands, it feels like Naked Snaked/BB is the clone of Solid Snake, instead of the other way around.

>>381328762
Throat cancer man has absolutely nothing on this Kiefer scene. It just sucks that most people will never see this scene during the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifY5kktFw44

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>>381326039
Big Boss and Solid Snake are different characters

I don't know why people always forget about that

Naked Snake should've been voiced like Kurt Russel, like Kojimbo originally wanted

>>381328952
I don't need to rewatch that shit, I already played through the game. The dialogue was so corny and poorly translated, even moreso than previous games.
I don't know what it is that you're trying to prove with this shit.

>>381328876
The plain/clean effect of his voice works well in Naked Snake's favor, still being "green" and having no emotion to carry into battle
For what it's worth, I think he has the vocal range/dedication to be Snake. He even offered to accept Kojima's plan to learn Russian for MGS3

>>381329016
>Big Boss and Solid Snake are different characters
Big Boss is barely a character at all.

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>think there is some sort of grand ruse going on because Hayter is acting like a fucking manbabby in Twitter
>turns out he is in fact, a genuine manbabby

>>381329276
n-n-n-n-n-nice one anon

>>381327854
>24 legacy didnt end with black bauer going to russia to break jack out

What a waste

>>381329098
Cringe

I liked Hayter in war in the pocket

>>381329356
What are you, 3 years old? He has no personality, you dumb shit.

>>381329235
Are you sure you're not talking about his Japanese voice actor? I've only ever read that he was going to learn Russian for MGS3. Never heard about Hayter.

>>381329345
>in Twitter
>in
You have to go back, Paco.

>>381326646
ye, I've heard that as well

desu, I get the impression that he's the kind of guy, who was way too passionate about this one particular role.
it was not so much as him not willing to take the L, he thought he was legit fucked over by Kojimbo.

>>381327854

What a pathetic, faggot. Kiefer could buy and sell him a thousand times over

>>381329446
he had more personality than Solid lol

>>381329369
couldnt even make it to the end of that shitpile. such a horribly made spinoff

>>381329098
This is honestly the best thing to come out of this mess. I just can't understand people that get clearly angry because Hayter is a salty cunt? Who the fuck cares.

I don't blame him. He himself wasn't really pissed about being replaced as he was about the fact that no one bothered to tell him.
He had been doing Snake's voice for years, and is probably the most iconic voice in the industry. I would be mad if after 2 decades, I didn't even get a single phone call about it.
Kojima wanted to stroke his tiny jap dick to big hollywood cock, and threw Hayter under the bus for it

>>381329698
You didnt miss anything. I dont remember the last time a season of 24 had such a lame ending

>>381329098
>Lmoa
poor guy

>>381327256

nobody cares about Mario's voice
hes easily replaced

Mario was an icon long before he had a voice, its not important to him

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He's getting 50k to voice in Bloodstained.

He's fine.

>>381330258
Where is David Hayter
Where is bing bing wahoo man

thought so

>>381325831
Whine like a bitch?

>>381326646
Keef was great though.

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>>381325618
>forgiving Hayter

>>381329474
I might just be confusing them, I thought Hayter was autistic enough to do it considering he split his check to get the old VAs back for TTS

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Which one was worse: Hayter saga or removing Ironside from Splinter Cell?

>>381331205
Ironside because he's actually talented

>>381325874
You would have seen this coming if you ever visited his political Twitter. He's like a fucking whiny child.

>>381331396
>muh Hilary
>TONALD DRUMPF!
>constant retweets of libfucks
Not you, Amy Hennig. I expected more of you.

>>381330258
>Snake
>More iconic than Mario in ANY sense

Walk outside right now and ask the first person you see to give an impression of both characters. Report back with your findings.

Hayter thought he was Snake. That's all. Medium psycho problem when someone "stole" his identity.

>Hayter curls up in fetal position and starts mumbling the lyrics to Snake Eater in his Snake voice while trying not to cry
>"David, are you coming to bed?"
>"NO. KONAMI MIGHT CALL."
>He stays up all night playing the first metal gear on the PS1 while wearing an ill-fitting skintight latex suit and a towel

cut to resemble a bandanna , voicing along with every line. His wife is upstairs in tears. His marriage is failing.

>"Honey, have you seen my best towel?"
>David is outside yelling at a cat for ejecting the first bullet by hand, and how testing a technique he's only heard about

the middle of battle wasnt very smart. The cat runs off. David spends the rest of the afternoon rocking back and forth in

the leaves and muttering something about being pretty good.

>Honey, I'm going to bed, do you need anything?
>Y-You're pretty good... you're... pretty good...

>Sometimes he goes to a graveyard to salute random graves and then try killing himself. Then he starts fist-fighting

someone that isn't there until his wife manages to find him and drag him back home in the middle of the night.

>>381331313
This. Hayter was essentially the definition of cheesyness.

>>381332376
So just like MGS.

>He walks passed a window with his wife (turned carer) and sees an advertisement for The Phantom Pain. He starts to preen

his hair in the window as if it were a mirror. Some nearby children start to point and snicker. His wife fights back the

tears.
>That's not who you are anymore, David. Let's go for some lunch.
>I WANT A TREEFROG.
>A-anything you want, dear.

>Hayter sees The Phantom Pain commercials, and looks at the tele in bewilderment, freeze-framing parts of it and studying

the characters.
>Sweetheart, I'm about to head out the the shops, would you like anything while I'm out?
>LISTEN TO HIS VOICE, IT DOESN'T COMPARE TO MINE
>R-Right... I'll just get the usual.

>His wife bought him a toy phone and wrote CODEC on the back of it hoping that he'd see how ridiculous he was being.
>David now wakes up in the middle of the night to talk into the toy phone without responding to anything else around him.

>It's a squeaky dog toy phone
>She accidentally stands on it one time and he thinks Otacon is calling
>By now david spends most of his days inside a cardboard box. He wife knows from experience that if she gets too close he'll bite her hand, and instead leaves his TV dinner (with 'calorie mate' crudely written over the packaging) by the flap. Again he asks if Konami have called.
>His wife once pulled the box off of him and he started screaming Snake's death cry. He didn't stop until she put the box back over him again.
>He crudely scribbled the words "LOVE BOX" on the side of it, and sits in the middle of the living room the majority of the day, only coming out when the lights are off, and everyone is asleep.

>David's wife and her parents sit quietly in the kitchen. Her father asks if his dear son-in-law is busy in the studio. In that moment, David crawls in from the garden on all fours, completely naked with (hopefully mud, probably cat shit) smeared all over his face. He opens the fridge, removes a juice box, and crawls slowly backwards the way he came.
>He then crawls through the hedge into the neighbours' garden. If they happen to be outside when David crawls by, he runs at them and punches them two times in the chest followed by a kick to the shin.
>He intentionally tosses a backpack full of "medical supplies" into a tree and attempts to climb up it as his wife and the in-laws watch him.
>He grabs rocks from the garden and hides in the hedges, tossing them into the opposite direction he's heading and gallops to the other side of the developement.

>Emotionally destroyed, she takes david to be assessed by a medical professional. In the waiting room, a small old woman, wearing red gloves and a red scarf, sits in the corner.
>David, in his homemade sneaking suit, spots her and starts to stand up. His wife is filled with panic.
>Ocelot isn't real honey, please sit down, I beg of you.
>But its too late, as David action rolls across the waiting room, grabbing the frail old woman by the hair and throwing her backwards into a pile of old magazines.
>HONEY PLEASE
>Heh, trying new tricks in the middle of a fight?!
>And with that, Hayter grabs a handful of magazines, and runs out of the waiting room, setting one by one down face-up in the hallways, hiding behind some greenery and a bench.

>He starts brawling with a cat until it scratches his eye out.
>David then tries to drown himself while in an intense psychosis where he hallucinates all the Konami employees he has ever seen slowly walking towards him.
>His wife eventually finds him and pulls him out of the water only to hear him yell: "I want the lies to end now!" before passing out.
>The cat scratches the opposite eye to the one Big Boss lost, so he insists on wearing two eye patches and bumping into things.
>He seems to be recovering from his ordeal well, until his wife leaves him unsupervised with the tv remote and he accidentally turns to 24. At the sight of his "phantom", he shrieks and punches the wall so hard the TV falls from the bracket and smashes on the floor.

>>381332534
>>381332356
Nice reddit spacing.

>>381326646
>dodged a bullet, because of a voice actor
Hahahahahaha as if you faggots needed any more proof of how worthless you are

>>381332765
Oh shit you caught me, this is all from reddit.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/123836745/#123871626

>>381332850
>/vg/
Even gayer. Don't you have a circle jerk to go to?

>>381327348
HE just dont realize that biggboss and solid snake are not the same character, i think thats the reason kojima wanted to cast someone else in mgs3 and it makes sense. Hayter is way to up his ass in this shit

>>381333125
I do, it's called /ss13g/

>>381331205
Ironside himself decided not to voice Sam anymore. He already sounded out of place in Conviction.

>>381331205
>not getting him to reprise Darkseid in Injustice 2
Truly the worst offense.

>>381329204
>The dialogue was so corny and poorly translated
So just like any of the other games uh?

>>381326646

His Peace Walker voice was atrocious, no excuse

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>>381325618
No. Not because he was a baby about the whole thing but because he could always do classic snake but for some reason hammed in up too much during MGS3 and onward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgwu2Byjx-Q

>>381328952
>OH MAH GAWD

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>>381329016
>Big Boss and Solid Snake are different characters
Not really. Big Boss and Solid share very similar traits in looks and personality. And the whole Japanese egg thing doesn't factor that much because they made sure that the clones were mostly Big Boss. The main difference between Big Boss and Solid are their beliefs.

Also if he could get Kurt for Snake he would have him do Solid and Big Boss just like he does with Akio Ōtsuka. Kojima didn't want Hayter to play BB because BB should sound different, he just didn't want Hayter as Snake period.

>>381334441
This is the real MGS5.

He got worse later on, but his voice led to the corny charm the series had. Replacing him with Kiefer just felt like Kojima sucking Hollywood cock. Boss barely talks in the game, so there didn't seem to be any real need for a change. Hearing an actual actor recite these lines really shows how bad the writing is.

>>381334441
Paul Eidings voice is so fucking great

>>381334352
Voice direction given. Not his fault.

>>381337067
he will die in your life time. ;_;

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>>381337409
Solidus' va died last month ;_;

>>381328952
>what th- OH MY GOD
well it's realistic

>>381329442
Loved him. Wear a say it ain't so Bernie shirt erryday. Hurts to find out how much of a huge shitty diaper he lugs around. Even liked him in Guyver 2.[spoiler/]

>>381328782
>adults are okay with being laid off

>>381338243
Not him, but its not like he didn't have a ton of stuff to fall back on. Being Snake isn't his only job

>>381338243
Hayter was not laid off, he wasnt a permanent Konami employee he was just a freelancing contractor who simply did not get a call to work again. He got attached to the character like an autist and cried like a baby when Kojima lost interest in him.

Try again, summerfag.

>>381338530
It IS his whole public identity.

>>381338570
So? Why does this matter? Should anybody feel sorry for a 40 year old guy?

>>381338649
Yeah.

Anyway he's only doing this because, well, it's his whole public identity. Being memetically butthurt about it is just a transition from the previous persona.

>>381338649
I do. He's a pretty cool dude.

>>381338530
I don't think it's that he needed the work, he felt betrayed. I mean the guy took a pay cut so they could get the rest of the english voice cast for twin snakes.

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>>381327241
>Wouldn't you?

No because I'm not a cucked little bitch.

>>381338934
>on a Korean finger painting board
>smug pic
>not a cucked little bitch
Guess again.

>>381338561
>contract gets terminated
>not laid off
Okay

>>381338768
Yeah, its not like I don't feel bad for him, he built up the character for 15 years and the way they let him do was pretty dickish

>>381338934
>>381339079

>>381325618
>shitposters make non-stop threads about Hayter
>now pretend that most of /v/ ever hated Hayter

/v/ shitposting has become so fucking elaborate, people force narratives for days, weeks, months, years, and then get to a point where they pretend that narrative is the norm and hope that everyone just buys into it. And then years afterwards they pretend that /v/ always believed it. Fucking ridiculous.

>>381339673
Basically what Kojima was telling us in MGS2, anon. Speak the lies enough times and it eventually becomes truth. Memes, Jack.

>>381339673
This isn't unique to /v/. In the early years of /mu/, we used to laugh at Neutral Milk Hotel and spammed it on the board much like /v/ does with Battleborn. As a lark, some have started posting about it in a positive light while everyone in the thread snickered at the comedy that was unfolding. It was an in-joke within /mu/. Fast forward a couple years later, /mu/ actually likes NMH now. The joke went over the heads of the new users and just rode the bandwagon.

Any mention of this little history is disregarded too. This is why you don't ever pretend to be retarded.

>it's announced that Kiefer will voice Snake
>immediately the internet goes crazy with conspiracy theories, thinking it's one big ruse and that Kiefer is voicing Big Boss and Hayter is voicing Solid Snake
>that, or it's not really Big Boss, and the real Big Boss is voiced by Hayter anyway
>creeping up to release, slowly becomes clear that it's not a ruse and Hayter really is gone
>at the very end of TPP, it's revealed that we were playing as an imposter all along holy shit
>real big boss shows up
>it's still Kiefer

Fucking why

>>381339089
He would have been laid off if he was hired and then fired. But he wasn't hired to do another voice acting job, he simply didnt get the call.

You sure are underaged, are you?

>>381326039
I can't image Hayter as Big Boss in his later years. His voice sounds too young. Sure he played Old Snake in MGS4, but Old Snake is scrawny and scrappy-looking. It still kind of fits his voice.

Big Boss in his 50's though? Nah. He's too... idk, big, and hearty, and he needs a strong voice. Keifer did a great job capturing that.

>>381340559
still wouldn't make sense, considering Keef started voicing him in GZ

>>381339673
I never really browse /mu/ but I unironically like Neutral milk hotel. Am I part of the problem?

>>381341291
GZ was planned to be part of TPP. They just needed to shit it out because they were running out of funds.

voice actors are the whiniest bitches in the game industry.

>remember when /v/ thought there was some grand ruse going on and Hayter was just hamming it up to make his inevitable surprise cameo all the more satisfying
>it turns out he really was just an autistic baby the whole time
I can't think of a greater /v/ moment than this.

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>>381335745
Young Hayter was a handsome lad, no homo

>>381339673
>thinking anyone would still like him after he smeared his ass all over the internet shaking and crying about not getting called back to voice a cartoon man

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>>381327565
>for some reason

>>381327854
This made me cackle

>>381332765
>everything I don't like is from reddit

>>381343775
he is referring to that abomination of formatting

>>381335745
Just because they're similar doesn't mean they're the same

>>381340670
>sign contract to do voice for 5 years
>company holds off to expire contract
>wasnt laid off
Okay

>>381325618
David Hayter did nothing wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKn9yis8YA

>>381344362
[citation needed] fuckface :^)

>>381327147
Cortana

She's far beyond gaming now, still amazed they actually sampled the VA's voice that well.

>>381343908
Of course but they are pretty close. Kojima made them look and sound the same because he wanted a Snake in every game. And Solid might not be like Old BB but Kojima wrote BB pretty similar to him in MGS3 even to the point of having him quote Solid Snake's lines. Where they differ is minor for his younger days. He seems pretty different than Solid in GZ/TPP tho.

>>381345078
>changed his pic to keifer

Jesus

>>381344647
I've no idea what she sounds like. Don't think I've ever heard her.

You were saying?

>>381341915
Damn, he looks like David Bowie here

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>>381327403

>>381345078
is this real?

>>381325618
Nope. He outed himself as an autistic manbaby when he didn't get his way. I was never too fond of his Snake voice either and Kojima seems to agree considering he's been wanting to replace Hayter since MGS2.

>>381346495
Yes.

>>381346495
It is

This guy is such a little bitch.

>>381331205

They should have just ended that series but I know its a business and they have to squeeze every dollar out of it, but they should have just made the character of Sam Fisher retire and got a new younger character to take his place in the newer splinter cell titles. Sam was a grizzled old vet in the first fucking game.

>>381327241
>Wouldn't you?

No I'd move on. It's fucking childish and unprofessional.

>hurr bigboss and solid snake are basically the same!

Listen hayter fags, solid, liquid, and solidus are all clones and basically the "same" character, yet they all had completely different voice actors. Sorry the creator of the fucking series actually wanted to get a voice actor to make his character more realistic instead of some Saturday morning cartoon tier goofy shit that Hayter is only capable of doing. Hayter also acted like a giant bitch about it to

>>381343839
I left word wrap on

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>>381348771
>He doesn't know about Akio Ōtsuka and how Kojima believes he's the real true snake and that he voiced SS, BB and solidus.

>>381327241
>15 years
>decent performances in 1, 2 and 3.
>phoned in for Twin Snakes
>phoned in as fuck for 4
>phoned in as absolute fuck for Peace Walker

If you consistently fuck up, you get fired.