it still hurts

Actually it's not that bad like Diablo 3 levels, at least the gameplay was really good, not the open world part but how fluid & tight the gameplay & animations are.
FOB was pretty good too, had like over 200 hours on it.

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SUCH A LUST FOR CHAPTER 3!!

>>381325524
I wanted more life in the MB with more interactions with the soldiers. I wanted more infiltration missions like the one where you save Huey and less powerful weapons. A more subsistence version of each mission and so on... also more story

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>>381325315
Three changes you'd make to the development of this game. 2 Reasonable and 1 Never Ever.
+No open world, stick to levels ala GZ
+51 in the game
Never ever:
+Replace FOB invasions with an MSX stylized "Build-a-MB" that other players can attack

You didn't play Ground Zeroes? Writing was on the wall, it wasn't Metal Gear anymore.

>>381325751
>more this more that
whiny faggot be glad you got a good game in this day and age

>>381326193
> it wasn't Metal Gear anymore

this meme lol

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>>381326210
I paid 45€ at launch, I'm entitled to whine

>>381325315
>I can't get over a product not being my fantasy image of a revenge story
fuck off retard
muh feels ;_;
muh bad boss go nuclear waah

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>>381326193
Yeah that Metal Gear series best known for its complete rigidity when it comes to style and gameplay...........................................................................NOT!

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>>381326193
GZ is superior to TPP because of the short but intense story, small are with neat infiltration mechanic, in TPP everything blew up

to be honest the whole experience PW GZ TPP is the real MGS5

>>381326828
>the short but intense story
there's no story

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>>381326924
that's because you didn't play PW and had no connection with it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCcXgOmBW5g

Has anyone seen the MG Survive Gameplay?
It looks EXACTLY like TPP, even the animations are the same
now, you could argue that the whole game will be a quickly rushed out sequel to make some buckaroos

but honestly, that shit makes me believe in the ruse even more
to make the ruse believable you don't need to make a whole game, just recycle old assets and animations und throw them into a steaming-hot turd of a game

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>>381327179
>>381326828
I put off playing PW for the longest time because of the disapointment that was GotP. But I ended up loving it, and getting to play PW/GZ/TPP over the course of a single month was pretty fantastic.

>>381327179
This so much. Why did kojima make the secret ending to PW canon? They might as well have mentioned that the monster hunter universe and metal gear universe really are the same

Where all the ruse threads went?

>>381327779
they died with caramel

>>381327767
>monster hunter universe and metal gear universe really are the same
again with this shit...that is an eastern egg. Also the secret ending is not a new thing since a lot of people went with Otacon at the end of MGS1

>>381327478
>but honestly, that shit makes me believe in the ruse even more

Actually it just cleared things up and ensured there is no ruse. The game was first demoed in 2016, it looked the same, and people rightfully thought it was a ruse. But a year later, continuing to show the exact same thing clearly shows it's not a ruse, it's just a regular, shitty game.

Especially considering Death Stranding wasn't at E3.

>>381327478
Caramel lives on

It'll always hurt. After Ground Zeroes I was hyped beyond belief. The thought of an open world with incredible, self-contained level designs like that had me at the most hyped I'd ever been for a video game.

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>>381327779
>DJT is the President of USA
>how that happened?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm_lxeQ6PmM

>>381327767
>Why did kojima make the secret ending to PW canon?
It's not a "secret" ending, but a "waaah I'm a retard and I'll stop playing the game even though I don't even have 50% completion" ending.

Most people got it. Actually, judging solely by the missions available, it was obvious there was more content.

So it's a lingering hurt that still resides within you, always present in the back of your mind? A Phantom Pain, if you will.

>>381327478
dont link mongyea ever again
dumb catposter

>>381328121
it's all confirmation bias on both sides.
they added new screenshots to show they put work in
they even added a hub that looks like the MGS4 shooting range

>>381328313
MGS5 (GZ and TPP) was the only metal gear I was able to beat without a guide here and there. How the Christ are you supposed to know to go back to target practice?

>>381328651
boredom

>>381328001
The whole "who did you end up with?" Is a little less important than, "Paz was secretly a fucking super spy and piloted your metal gear in panties"

>>381328121
I just refuse to believe a giant company like konami ist stupid enough to put out a game like that, a game that's basically a shitty DLC no one asked for, right after they part ways with one of the most important persons in the industry
for me, the ruse makes much more sense desu senpai

It's like pottery.

>>381328761
I will remember that when I'm getting bored of a fun video game on my PSP. /V/ says I'm doing it right!!

>>381327779
the ruse was confirmed fake and caramel sudokud on live stream taking his threads with him

>>381328795
it was a big deal. In the beginning of MGS2 I was thinking the Otacon ending was the real one but a second later he starts talking about Meryl...Kojima tricked me in the very first minutes...
btw as >>381328313 said, you just had to play the game

Why did the story have to suck so hard?

>>381325315
this...phantom pain...

How can I make the singe player more enjoyable?
Like clearing outposts in a fun way? I just wanna finish it already

>>381329329
always use shitty weapons. never upgrade

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>>381327726
>>381326828
>PW

>>381329416
>wario reaction image
can you be more pleb than this?

>>381329181
Kojima was running out of Juice since MGS3. With MGS4 everything went downhill until it got lower with MGSV.

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>>381329629
Let me know

>>381328813
When the only people capable of making good games, aka "Kojipro", left the boat, what the fuck do you expect?

They make fucking Metal Gear pachinko machines ffs.

It really is fucking weird when you think about it, the stories and characters of PW/GZ/TPP ended the MGS series. it's like the complete opposite of the Solid Snake saga. Who, 10-20 years ago, would've thought that Big Boss and Master fuckign Miller would be the main 2 characters by the end

>>381328651
>How the Christ are you supposed to know to go back to target practice?

There's no new "Find Zadornov" missions at this point, Kaz tells you they don't know where he is but he can't have gone far. Like maybe he can be found on the very first Extra Op that is set on Motherbase?

>>381330875
Also, everyone complains about V somehow killing the lore but it really doesn't. IV killed the lore. Kojima fucked with the fanboys on that game, he never wanted to go back to the Solid Snake arc.

>>381325315
the overhate for this game is unjustified.

sometimes i think it's just kojima hayters pretending they liked anything past MGS1.

>>381325315
it's ok OP
kojima will show up at e3
turns out, death stranding is MGSV-3
caramel said so

I'm still holding out hope that Konami will one day sell the franchise to another developer so they can make an MGS6, featuring BB building outer heaven.

Should i even play V? I'm a big fan of the series and would like to get some closure on the story, but I don't think the pain will be worth it.

>>381330875
>>381331094
Even though I like 4, more so than Peace Walker and V, 4 was where the problems started to occur. 4 is the bridge between the old and new MGS games. Characters who weren't all that important to the story, Zero, Miller, Paramedic, etc. suddenly gain incredible prominence, being behind a shit ton of events no one knew about. New RPG elements of upgrading weapons and customizing abilities are introduced and expanded on in future games. The writing gets more convoluted and darker, til we get to V where the entire thing is incredibly bleak and not fun like the original trilogy. If 4 were better written and didn't open up a million questions, we wouldn't need PW and V to bridge the gap. And even then they don't do that very well either.

>>381331538
V raises more questions than it answers and leaves the series lore in shambles. Trust me, the "closure" from PW is the most satisfied you'll be. If you play V it will kill the story for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKhpE-oNoGY

>>381331226
/v/ is an echo-chamber, what did you honestly expect?

>>381331780
This. MGS V is a bunch of plots mixed as one.

>>381331538
It doesn't really give closure, and the story is weak overall, but I'd still play it.

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>>381331538
>big fan
>hasn't even played V
Do you know what "fan" means?

It's mediocre on every level.

>>381331538
>closure on the story
btw liquid stole a metal gear when he was young and never used it or mentioned it or alluded to it ever again and ocelot knows about it and he also doesnt care

>>381325726
But Chapter 3 is just a meta-chapter, not an actual chapter full of missions and story content. Tons of sites and ecelebs reported the dataminers finds out of context. The title cards still in the game files. The only thing that was removed was Kingdom of the Flies (and Battle Gear.)

>>381331226
>the overhate for this game is unjustified.
>defending an incomplete game made by someone clearly tired of working on the same thing, released by a greedy company that clearly doesn't give a damn about their IPs

I mean, there's a lot of reasons to not like the game

>>381332168
>Chapter 3 is just a meta-chapter,
Anon, Konami was breathing over Kojima's neck and forced him to release a game incomplete. It's not a meta thing, it's just an incomplete game.

>>381332209
the only reason you listed was that it's incomplete. The rest is just complaining about the people who made it.

>>381328813
Konami's driven itself into the ground game wise. They disbanded Team Silent, forced IGA into mobile games, outsourced SH and Castlevania to crappy western studios, abandoned other franchises like Suikoden, ZoE and Goemon completely, botched HD ports and continuously sabotaged themselves when it came to releases, advertising or basic fucking competence. If you look at what they've put out since the PS2 era, KojiPro have basically been an independent studio whilst the rest of Konami, except for PES, has down bugger all. Companies don't act 100% rationally.

>>381332363
I didn't listed complains. I just said the game is incomplete and a lot of people have their complains. A few examples are stuff like no codec, incomplete parts(the most usual complain), a really empty world, no stamina or life bar, regen life, issues with the plot (the most prominent aspect of this would be the plot twist), tapes(which try to substitute the codec), Keifer removed lines.

Look man, if you liked the game that's fine. But there's reasons why people don't like MGS V. Which is also fine because for the most part, the people and media liked the game

>>381327478
> quick cashgrab
> announced a year ago
> still no release date

They reuse more assets than fucking Lego games and those come out every 6 months. It's unbelievable how fucking slow Konami is.

>>381326145
Is she supposed to be Nami?

>>381332358
Believe me, I've looked into and read everything about it. On a purely technical level, the lua files and mission ID data show that KOTF (and some repeat extreme missions not included) are the only traces of more content. Kingdom of the Flies was a separate mission independent of TPP, like GZ and dropped early in development, and trailers from 2012-14 show finished cutscenes from the second half of the game, before the Kojima-Konami clusterfuck happened in early 2015. The game does have a clear thematic structure- it's the pacing which is an issue. There's a good quote from Kojima in the novelisations intro about it:

'This work is a story about people who have lost their companions and their past. They vow revenge, and try to take back the things they’ve lost. But, as the story enters the middle stage, the more they try to take back, the more they lose everything. Those who assembled for revenge are lost one by one. That is to say, by the chain of revenge, in the end nothing is left. This work is not a “phantom pain”, but is a story of “loss”.

I think TPP is by and large a finished game. Chpt 2 is like PW after the Peace Walker fight and Coldman's death. (Even the Truth mission and a Quiet exit have to be triggered in a non-obvious like the Paz/Zeke fight and just appear out of nowhere). Without retaliation against Skull Face, DD turn against each other and everyone -Eli, the child soldiers and Sahelanthropus, Huey, 'Paz', the staff killed in Shining Lights, Quiet, leaves you and Venom/the player learns the Truth. I can't think of what story or content, or ending different from Truth, that isn't just bad Grey Fox fan fiction.

>>381325315
I dont see it as a Metal Gear game, but it sure is my favorite tactical QT simulator.