Towers

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>I-it's okay when Nintendo does it!
>Revolutionary!

>>381316637
watch as they say how it's better because it's less useful

it's better because it's l-
N-NANI??

>>381316637
Gliding off a tower into the sunset is way more fun than falling from a tower into a haystack

Ubisoft towers aren't inherently bad, they're just overdone

>>381316762
>Gliding off a tower into the sunset
far cry 3?

>>381316637
The amount of bullshit that people defend about this game astounds me.

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>I-it's okay when Sony does it!

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>find a giant fucking robot on Horizon
>expect some crazy SotC fight
>its just a fucking WALKING TOWER
WHY. THEY JUST TICKED OFF CHECKBOXES DIDN'T THEY. FUCK.

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>>381316448
>>381316637
At the very least they could have made each tower look different, maybe give them different shapes. Lost Woods has that skull at the top but that's pretty much it. Shrines suffer from the exact same problem, they all look the same inside and out. Nintendo vastly underestimates how important variety is for an action-adventure game.

>>381316762
yeah but like... assassin's creed came out a fucking decade ago.

>>381316448
ITT: Buttmad Sonybros

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stay salty

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>>381316448

>>381316448

Jedi Knight had a great tower

You start off at the outskirts, infiltrate the heavily defended base, and eventually fight the first Dark Jedi at the top of it

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Nothing wrong with this system just because Ubishit over uses the concept doesn't mean no other developers can use it, faggot.

>>381316693
>>381316637
>Ubisoft towers are hated because they are required to unlock any content
>and there are 30-50 per game
>and they are identical every time you find them
>and they clog your map with icons

>BotW towers just fill in the map's topography, give a teleport point, differ fdom place to place, and there are only 15

Now call me a drone.

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>>381317109
Go knock a moblin down and come back once your game unfreezes.

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>>381316637
Maybe Assassins Creed is just a shitty game...

>>381316801
FC3 controls like shit and is kinda unpolished tho

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>>381317316
>i-it's shit, but there's less of them!

Are the apologists ever going to stop and acknowledge how overrated this game is?

>>381317390
You know, when the first assassin's creed came out there was nothing else like that. Climbing to the tallest tower was just a natural instinct when given the climbing mechanic.

The problem with Ubisoft is that you have way too many towers, a single island in Black Flag could have three or more towers which is completely insane. Each tower is the exact same to climb and serves for limited utility.

In BotW you have few towers and they reveal great chunks of the map. They all have a different gimmick you need to overcome. They have some added utilities like you being able to use your binoculars to spot objectives or being able to glide off to said objectives, which is nice since they fit really neatly with the game's mechanics.

>>381317493
okay

>>381317464
>overrated
Overrated is a meaningless buzzword only used by teenagers and contrarians that can't rate things for shit so they rate the critical reception instead.

>>381316874
Walking vantage point still sounds pretty cool to be honest

>>381317616
>They all have a different gimmick you need to overcome.

maybe if you are 8

>>381317464
It's not shit. BOTW towers don't put 354098234 points of interest on the map, which is the only thing wrong with Ubisoft towers.

BOTW towers are basically just vantage points. Ubisoft towers are "come to each of these towers to get 20 quests that are identical to the ones you got at the last tower".

>>381317663

It's a 7/10 game at best. The world is too barren, has no real dungeons, and the shrines all look the same. The game has virtually no variety and extremely little polish with dumbed down, unnecessary crafting mechanics that add no gameplay value. It's both unremarkable as a Zelda game and as a modern open world game.

>>381317734
I see you did not play the game

>>381317767
OK but the entire industry disagrees with you :^)

>>381317767
To you of course, and given you have shit taste it's not surprising

>>381317773

wow a tower is in a lake!
I need to fight a couple lozaflos!


wow a tower first terrace is very high!
guess what I need to glide from the mountain in front of it!

wowww

>>381317680
I dont know what its like on the Pro but the landscape is usually hidden behind fog so you can see fuckall from your view. Was disappointed honestly. Found out theres bandit camps and corruption in each zone to clear out after that too.

>>381317464
Wait, that's not what that post said!

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>>381317767
>The world is too barren

The whole open world in BotW is utter shit. The really great parts are few and far between in villages. The game grew on me the more I played, but I'll never buy an open world one again. Traditional Zelda or I'm out.

>>381317848
These are two gimmicks, the easiest ones too

There are 13 more

And what did you expect? A grand quest or one of the most difficult mathematical riddles of the world in order to be able to use a tower? It's supposed to be quick so it doesn't eat up your time doing your other quests.

I don't have a problem with towers themselves, I have a problem with a mechanic where you solve a boring, repetetive environmental puzzle and the game magically gives you a tour of the vicinity and all the locations of interest. It's the formulaic, disjointed design that annoys me.

Give me something like what Miasmata did: an actual logical reason to search for vantage points. Make it an organic and optional part of the fucking mechanics of navigation. As it is, you don't climb the tower to actually have a better view, you do it because it is a stupid, arbitrary hoop you are supposed to jump through for the game to unlock more content. And fuck that noise.

>>381317848
>le cynical
>le jaded xD
>I'm le /v/ as fuck
Children raised by 4chan should be euthanized.

>>381317365
they fixed that already

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>>381317767
>The world is too barren
ok

>>381317767
>no real dungeons

The Divine Beasts are the best thing to happen to dungeons. Their coherent design inside and out is god tier. Plus if you add up all the puzzles, chests, and enemies you fight in shrines combined with the four divine beasts you easily have 10-12 dungeons worth of content, just spread out.

>no variety

Except for the dozens of hand-crafted locations that all look vastly different. And the same locations even look different in rain. And even the rainy locations look completely different based on light or heavy rain.

>extremely little polish

At this point it's clear you haven't even played the game.

>>381317928
This

>>381317936
Holy shit you're an entitled first world crybaby

>>381318156
>you want a reason?
>WOW ENTITLED MUCH?

>>381316762
Ass Bro has parachutes

>>381318271
they wouldn't know

they literally only play nintendo

I straight up can't understand why people like open world. It's literally just 15 minutes if travelling between actual content which would be much better if it flowed together. So without the 15 minutes of running around. Plus half the time it's 10-15 minutes to a shrine that takes 2 minutes.

>>381317834
By "industry" you mean shitty journalist that will suck Nintento's dick even if they will fuck and kill their mothers?

>>381318303
>assuming shit because people don't have any interest in a franchise that had thirteen entries in a single gen
Kill yourself

>>381318370
>I straight up can't understand why people like open world.

you can go to the "places" in the order you want

example in botw the 4 villages

>>381318482
>Kill yourself


You just told a man to end his life.
Why don't you stop for a second to think about the consequences of your actions and words?

>>381318418
By industry I mean devs like the bioshock director, witcher 3 lead dev and others
>he still tries to rewrite history through shitposting
Autism is hell.

>OP posts a picture of two video game towers with no further instruction
>this somehow incites endless shitposting

>>381318554
You too, kill yourself, nobody will miss your retarded ass opinions and your parents will be relieved since it's one leech less to feed.

>>381318303
well to be fair only Bro has it iirc, which is dumb because shit's fun

>>381318576
>By industry I mean devs like the bioshock director, witcher 3 lead dev and others
>hey we've seen that open world sells to casuls so we will make more bland open worlds and hype it way more than they deserve it
Yea sure. Thanks for that i guess.

>>381318601
>Somehow

Don't play dumb

>>381318683
Hahahahahaha look at this desperation, he actually thinks that if he shitposts hard enough he will diminish Zelda's praise and influence.
Autism IS hell.

>>381318203
It wasn't so much your reason, it was how you worded it.

>>381318370
>I straight up can't understand why people like open world.
Some people like to feel like they can explore. They like to see the world and how it's interconnected, they like to feel like they are discovering the world on their own. It's also (sometimes, in the rare cases where it is handled well) more immersive: first by providing a world with more belivable dimensions (places look like real places, not like an artificially restrained room or a fucking theme park ride). Third: open world often opens a lot of opportunities for emergent scenarios, which are fun because A) again player is being an actual agent, rather than a mere passive observer, and B) they can be unique, which is satisfying on it's own.

The real problem with open world games is not the concept of an open world, but the fact that most open-world games utterly fail to take advantage of it.
I don't know about Breath of Wild - I have not played it - but most open-world games are just actually using the world very poorly.

>>381318601
OP could post a picture of a fucking potato and it would surely turn into a shitfest in this cancerous place

>>381317316
>i never played a Ubisoft game, just heard the memes
you couldnt be more wrong, retard

>>381318775
Zelda's influence ended with OoT. Everything else is not revolutionary at all. Just retards did not realize it and will keep being Nintendofags.

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>>381317109
>People think Nintendo sucks

>>381318370
Not only that but the content tends to be watered down to fill the space it has to on top of it. You walk more and do less and the shit you do is never as in depth as a game that takes care to craft more curated scenarios.

Good example is taking MGSV:GZ and MGSV:TPP. Ground Zeroes is the best fortress between the two games by far.

Similarly, BotW would only benefit by taking its core mechanics (the physics based shit is fantastic) and focusing it into 8 or 12 dungeons designed to test the player's problem solving, exploratory, and technical mastery of the game.

>>381318006
And on this note, these locations are great but the game makes you walk traverse and do nothing with vast stretches of the areas. They overstay their welcome. There's no focus.

The game is Zelda: Meandering Edition. And the devs knew it. They knew the space had to be filled so they padded it out with tiers of weapons and armor AND made them consumables so they'd never be redundant by the vast world offering them too much.

When you make a game so large that you can't sufficiently fill it with -unique- rewards not too far apart from one another you have a fucking problem. A problem the very first fucking Zelda avoided while still being a Goddamned sandbox.

It's a great game but a better sense of focus would have only made it better.

>>381318919
>He spent 450$ to see bushes moving

>>381318370
open world games like elder scrolls are great because you can replay them over and over without getting sick of them. in a linear game you'll get sick of taking the same path over and over whereas in some open world games you can start wherever you want

>>381318909
The Witcher 3 lead dev disagrees with you though.

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>>381317109
come back when the grass both casts shadows and reacts to the player lmao

>>381318909

You are still wrong.
No matter how hard you try.

>>381316448
>>381316637
BotW towers are completely optional and only reveal the main points of interest. Ubisoft towers are mandatory and reveal every landmark, quest, and POI in the area.

>>381319012
Wow the Dev of a shit game thinks another shit game is great

Brb buying r SWITCHES

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>>381318960
>2017 and not having proper vegetation movement
Step it up sonybro

>>381318872
I actually like AC and this is mostly true, though. Except for the "they are identical every time you find them" part.

>>381319012
>BotW did some things right and some random dev (not lead you fucking retard) said it inspired him
Living with autism surely is hard.

>>381316637
>asscreed: pins shit onto your map and just fucking tells you where everything is, making discovery very counter intuitive
>BotW: shows geography of area and that's literally it
Yes it is okay when Nintendo does it.

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oh look, another thread where /v/ is crying about botw.

just can't stop thinking about it i guess.

>>381319093
>they unlock content
nope, they unfog the map
>there are 30-50 per game
nope, Unity had like what, 10?
>identical every time
obviously no
>they clog your map with icons
again, nope

>>381316637
>tfw nobody responds to your shitposting thread so you have to samefag with an inflammatory post
feels bad man

>>381319065
Imagine being this salty over a game and trying to shitpost it into being bad.
Maybe if you do this for a decade you'll succeed and prevent Zelda from getting all the praise it's already getting from devs and fans alike.
>>381319113
>random dev
Hahahahahahah he's the lead designer you tryhard little shit, I love how butthurt Zelda is making you retards, it's been four months, get over it already.

>>381317464
>come on guys it's only a 7/10 at best! s-serious!
97 lol get fucked nigger

>>381319035

The shittiest game

Does the salt caused by BOTW already surpassed Bayonetta 2's salt?

Don't come here too often, buy every single day, there are a couple of threads pouring salt in tons about some shit they saw in BotW.

>>381319257
http://gamingbolt.com/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-has-raised-the-bar-for-world-building-says-the-witcher-3-developer
>Damien Monnier
This guys is not even working at CD Projekt anymore you fucking idiot.

this >>381319035 lmao

>ps4 exclusive
>game looks good
>vegetation stiff as a rock

>nintendo exclusive
>game looks like shit
>vegetation reacts to player

>multiplat ubisoft game
>game looks good
>vegeation reacts to player and other physics like a helicopter

and consolefags >>381319325 BTFO
by Ubisoft again

>>381318872
Then explain how he is wrong you dumb child.

>>381319419

>"It's a different person, it doesn't count"

Anon. You're embarrassing yourself at this point.

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>>381319419
FOUR MONTHS

>>381319510
>im retarded and cant read
already did faggot

>>381318909
BOTW is the resurgence of Zelda's influence. I agree they had nothing influential for the past 18 years, but BOTW very clearly breaks that trend. The retards are the ones who don't realize how well crafted the world is, how coherent the physics are, how non-existent the hand-holding is. Like OOT, other devs will be playing catch up for the next 10+ years.

BOTW is by no means the first game to do what it did (neither was OOT), but it's the first game to do everything so right. For example at this year's E3 alone there were no fewer than three games which showed off slow-mo aerial arrow. BOTW may not have invented this, but it certainly is making it very influential.

>>381316448
WHY DID THE LAST GEN HAVE NO COLORS AT ALL

all these sour grapes are making me want to replay it

>>381319215
>nope, they unfog the map
Technically yes, but they also show you where content is. I doubt you would like to run around and search for this stuff blind
>nope, Unity had like what, 10?
Unity actually has a relatively small amount of them, so that's not a good example and I think they were still at least 20-something of them. AC2 had at least 50.
>again, nope
I mean, you can turn the icons off in the map options, so it's not like the "clogging" is the problem. More like the sheer amount of repetitive timesink side tasks. That's indeed not the fault of the towers though

>>381319627

You're fucking colorblind if you didn't find color in Zelda.

>>381319570
People do the same because it's overhyped Nintendo, not because it was well done. Combat is one of the weaker points of BotW.

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>>381317365

>being so pathetic that you actually look up videos on youtube about things wrong with the game so you can sound like you played it and didn't like it

>not knowing that was fixed within a couple weeks of release

just kill yourself already

>>381319705
Wait until the 30th and replay it on hard mode.
Also the new update will let you have more than one save slot.

>>381319705

Just imagine /v/ when the dlc comes out and it's perfect, cheap and fun and many people replay and re enjoy the game.

Just thinking about the salt makes my dick hard already.

>>381319734
I'm talking about AC you moron.

>>381319562
Well that's how a dumb child would think, yet you haven't explained shit.

>>381319774
Why are you trying to rewrite history anon? Are you seriously claiming to know better than the entire industry? Do you have any source for your claims other than your hot opinions?

>>381319858

Then don't say "last gen", say AC, you fucking mongoloid.

>>381319832
Oh, so the DLC is going to fix the mobilegametier combat and will introduce enemy variety?

>>381319912
Not him but you're the mongoloid, it was obvious what he meant.

>>381319995
DESPERATE.
Try playing the game instead of regurgitating shit you see here.

>>381319912
>Surely everyone agrees that the mongoloid here is the guy referring to the last gen game and not me, a guy failing basic reading comprehension

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>>381319832

mfw i'll be playing the game and not even be aware of all the shitposting going on here... they'll all just be shitposting to eachother while we enjoy a video game, something they haven't done in years

>>381320045
I'm currently at 70 hours Anon and there is no enemy variety at all and the combat is a snoozefest.

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>>381320080

i don't believe you

>>381319832
I want to believe the DLC will be good. But I have a feeling it will make an average Souls DLC look masterful.

>>381319908

STFU ALREADY

videogames are my life and it fucking hurts that Nintendo is making my life go to hell.

Let me fucking enjoy myself shitposting about your shitty kiddy game that just makes people look down on me and my hobby... Let me have this. Go to any other thread. Please.

If nintendo didn't exist, videogames would not be a kiddy hobby and society would respect me more. You don't get it because you don't love videogames as much as I do, clearly... Because you like your fucking kiddy game.

Now fuck off or I'll fucking hack you, find you and kill you.

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>>381317918
>>381318006
Different anon here, but do you guys know what barren means? Half those pictures literally prove his point, it looks barren as shit.

>>381320080
Stop shitposting.

>>381316637
>all the cancerous summerfags defending this shit

holy fuck i hate nintendo, literally creatively bankrupt and being applauded for it

>>381320067

Zelda is last gen too.

Fucking morons.

>>381320137
>>381320160
There is no enemy variety and the combat does become a snoozefest after you beat your first lynel. Also criticizing a game is not shitposting you fucking retard, stop misusing that term.

t. different guy

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>>381320158

>you can't have a body of water or plains in your open world game

>>381320143
>videogames are my life
Get a real one then
Your shitposting isn't witty or funny, you're a real faggot.

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lol ya'll niggas have an easier time accepting death than you do accepting the fact that nintendo made a good game

>>381320303
>>381320303

implying that lynels aren't hard to kill after the first one

i don't believe you've played the game anon

>>381320137
>>381320160

Are you retarded? I applaude what the game did with its open world and would say it's one of the top 3 games of this decade but just like Witcher 3 it suffers from piss-poor combat and has ZERO enemy variety outside of boring elemental reskins.

>>381320303
Stop shitposting.

>people actually defending Ubishit in this thread
I wish I could kill all of you.

>>381320430
>Flurry rush
>Mount
>Hit
>Repeat

Are you 12????

>>381320445
See
>>381320445

>>381320073

>>381320380

It wasn't supposed to be funny.
I think you still don't get how serious I am about this topic.

>>381317184
This. Does someone want to explain what exactly the problem is? You're always looking for vantage points to glide from in botw, i would climb them even if they didn't unlock anything

>>381320574
You are most certainly not serious if you care about how society thinks of your hobby, if you do, you got into gaming after 2007 when it became "cool", otherwise society not respecting your geek ass hobby should be business as usual.

What's the skyrim or witcher equivalent of these towers

i'm asking for my wives boyfriend

The towers in Zelda and AC are shit. I really liked the towers in Horizon Zero Dawn since they were actually difficult to climb and interesting to get to.

There's not even a reason for towers in Zelda since the world if full of vantage points.

>>381320687

Newsflash, Homo:
Gaming is cool now. And it can seriously get you laid if you have the right credentials.

Nintendo makes those credentials less valuable.

You wouldn't know about it because you only play nintendo shit. There's a secret side for you of this hobby, the adult one.

>>381320687
Nigga 2007 was 10 fucking years ago
I was like 8

>>381320718
In Witcher the only thing that might prevent you from exploring too much are high leveled monsters, but there is an option in menu to turn on scaling.

>>381320718
In Witcher those sign posts that unlock all the question marks

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>>381320305
Yes. Exactly. You can't, unless you want it to look barren. Open plains and large bodies of water are boring and uninspired, and when trying to compete or deliver a fresh experience when it comes to the open world genre, they just don't work anymore.

The same applies to extremely steep mountains, large canyons devoid of life and oceans of any kind. Unless they implement suitable realism, these areas are boring empty spaces with nothing to offer. And they're never implemented with suitable realism, you'll never have big waves or a crazy wildlife under the ocean that you are free to explore, you'll never have dynamic avalanches on mountains. And that's what makes these areas so boring compared to the real world.

@381320908
Not even gonna bother giving a (you) to this shitty b8
>>381320909
Well that's just embarrassing.

>>381319052
>Ubisoft towers are mandatory
How are they mandatory?

>>381321180
>You can't

Hold my beer

>>381321180
Autism.