I simply cannot take all this innovation!

>>381315927
Kiby has never had a bad game.

the one on the right has smooth edges, that's groundbreaking. don't be mad just because your $2000 computer can't do that when a $100 handheld can.

>>381315927
Switch Kirby is a soft looking mother fucker, and I want to hug him.

>>381315927
If it ain't broken why fix it

Grow up

>>381316019
The one on the right is Switch

>>381315927
Yeah, I'm not a fan of this rehashed art style either. I'm probably going to get the game, but still.

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>the 3ds model
Fucking hell I'd rather play on a gameboy color screen than the 3ds

>God Tier
Switch Kirby
>Mid Tier
RTDL Kirby
Triple Deluxe Kirby
>Shit Tier
Planet Robobot Kirby

>>381316013

Motherfucker Kirby has never had a GOOD game. They're all so easy a fucking lobotomy patient could beat them. They're about as satisfying as learning to parallel park in a space the size of a stadium.

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>hd kirby

>>381316910
most games are braindead easy desu

>>381316974
Most Nintendo games.

>>381316910
i'd love to know what your favorite game is so that i can laugh at you for it

>>381315927
Isnt that the joke of kirby?
Like his graphics trasformation in the brawl opening?

>>381315927
First you draw a circle

>>381317030
most games in general

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>>381317052

>>381315927
>New Super Mario Bros
>New Super Kirby's Dreamland
>New Super Donkey Kong

Getting really sick of this

I think the Kirby games are just as uninteresting and slow paced as the yearly Assassin's Creed games.

>>381317031
Megaman X

>>381317131
But Nintendo doesn't even give you a choice of difficulty, all their games are meant to be completable by small children.

>>381315927
If you pay attention to the picture, you will see that kirby has a MUCH better indirect illumination, almost at the point it looks like CG.

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This shit makes me so god damn mad when I see how Nintendo treats it's other IPs. Every 3D Mario tries to do something new and cool with the series, yet every new Kirby game is a copy paste of the old one, but up-res all the assets.

It makes me so mad that they cancel the games where they actually try something different.

>>381315927
I want a 3D Kirby but they will never make it. They would rather recycle the same game with minor tweaks.

>>381316013
kirby 64

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>>381317032
Don't you want Kirby to be rendered in a definition so high you could see the texture of his skin?

>>381317290
I love me some Kirby, but the series could definitely do with some new ideas. Bringing back ability combos ever 3 or 4 games isn't really doing it for me.

>>381315927
Hey cool, Kirby's shoes are red again.

>>381317249
more like megayman X lmao

>>381315927
>shitting on a game made for children
>doesn't realized he isn't the target demographic anymore
you still buy them star wars toys son?

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>>381317521

>>381317521
lol got him

>>381315927
how many hours did it took to make THIS picture?

What's the best one I can play on a 3DS?

>>381317709
kirby planet robobot is the best one you can find

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>>381317249
The easiest Mega Man X game? Are you fucking serious? You're complaining about Kirby games being easy, and therefore bad, and your favorite game is Mega Man X?

You weren't supposed to give me a reason to laugh at you, god damn, you hypocritical son of a bitch.

>>381317521
fucking SAVAGE HAHA

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>>381317384
Just make him a little fuzzy. Give Waddle Dees fuzz like Kirby, with faces as detailed as Mario's skin. Give King Dedede slick duck feathers and a detailed, bony looking beak. Meta Knight should be glimmering, with plenty of nicks, dents, and scratches on his armor. His eyes are more glowy and less like yellow oval stickers.

I want a Kirby game with an amazing physics engine- with the copy abilities and inhaling having all sorts of environmental consequences.

>>381316013
Most series's haven't, /v/ just has absurd standads where anything less then a 9/10 is bad

>>381317305
wrong

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>>381317249

>>381315927
>Choosing the main character for this comparison thing
At least choose something that doesn't need to stay the same

These games have kind of stagnated. When are we getting something that really takes a spin on the formula like 64, Super Star, or Amazing Mirror?

>>381317809
that's very clearly a batamon and not a kirby.

>>381316910
>>381317521
embarrassing

>>381318068
the kirby game that's coming to switch has the combine abilities from kirby 64,the helpers from super star ultra and the multiplayer from return to dreamland,seems like a good mix

>>381316174
This, but literally. I've played Kirby Dreamland a hell of a lot more than any 3DS Kirby.

>>381317305
Kirby 64 is objectively the best game

>>381315927
Don't use Kirby for your shitposting.

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>>381316910
>They're all so easy
You've never played a Kirby, shitposter, 100% any Kirby has always been a pretty good challenge.

>>381318442
Triple Deluxe.

>>381318464
but there is also the true arena

>>381318649
c'mon

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>>381318140
It's the REAL Kirby. The one we have now is a Batamon imposter.

>>381318649
>Kirby is easy
>>but what about this one short little thing at the very very end?
Every. Time. It's like aruging with kingdom hearts fanboys.

>>381318684
come one what ? if you want some challenge in kirby game then try with the true arena,it can give you a good challenge

>>381316013
But has he ever had truly good games? At least in the last 10 years?

Every game with Kirby is absolute toddler tier to the point where you often can' even die. Ultra baby games.

>even Kirby threads are full of shitposting now
This board has zero redeeming qualities now

>>381318814
Kirby Adventure on Gamecube was great.

>>381318747
>i want challenge in kirby games
>try the true arena then
>true arena doesn't count because it's at the end of the game

>>381318884
I want challenge in the whole game not 1% of it

>>381318764
He means the actual game, not a bonus post-game boss rush. Something like DL's and RtDL's extra modes, but they should be available from the start instead of trying to pad out the content by making you play both and recoloring the bosses.

>>381316910
>IF A GAME ISN'T DARK SOULS IT'S SHIIIT

>>381319001
yeah to be honest the hard mode in RtDL should have been unlocked from the very beginning instead of having you to replay the whole game

>>381318814
Yep, plenty. Epic Yarn for example.

>>381318939
Go play the first kirby on hard mode then.

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>>381316019
HA HA HA, ITS SMOOTH BECAUSE ITS BLURRY

>>381317250
Is there something wrong with that? Nintendo knows their market and they aim for that market. Why piss off the easiest consumer to please in favor of manchildren looking for hardcore pokemon?

>>381317741
Rockman X is one of the easiest in the series but don't bullshit, it's nowhere near as braindead easy as Kirby outside of extra things like true arena or the power challenges in Wii. Well, exploiting boss weaknesses and sub tanks might push it over the edge, but those are very easy to avoid. The only thing I can do to make Kirby less brainless is avoid pressing the guard button.

I loved Wii but I'm finding it difficult to maintain interest in the series when they refuse to provide even a modicum of challenge in the meat of the game and have only made it easier if anything, extra mode in that at least required me to be conscious and again, the challenges were great. That said they are still very solid and Robobot was pretty creative even if it again used the skeleton of Wii (which I don't have a problem with in itself).

To be fair, there isn't much to improve on upon Kirby's rotundness.

I kinda wish there was another 2D sprite based adventure honestly.

>>381316910
I bet you think Dark Souls is hard, fag.

>>381319594
>it's not brainless if you don't do the thing that makes it brainless

>>381316013
this is true. might be actually nintendo's most consistent series. i have to admit that there haven't been any kirby games that i consider masterpieces like some games in maro, zelda or metroid series but those series have had some stinkers

Ok OP you tell me how you can get creative with a pink ball

>>381319687
A lot of people do.

>>381316013
Objectively speaking, Rainbow Curse is a bad game. It's a straight downgrade from Canvas Curse in every way besides graphics, and even then, it's not exactly ground-breaking in that department.

I also don't like Mass Attack or Epic Yarn, but at least those games are unique.

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>>381315927
>Kirby will never be perfectly circular
No matter how many pixels or polygons you have NEVER EVER

>spins off get really unique art styles like yarn and claymation
>mainline platformers gets nothing

i just want the best of both worlds

>>381319826
I mean, ok? At least it's possible through reasonable self imposed challenges (literally just don't use sub tanks, easy peasy) unlike Kirby where at most you can do a no power run which wouldn't be fun at all outside of true arena.

I'm not the guy who said X was my favorite game. If any from that franchise I'd pick one of the Zero games.

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>>381316013
You can't have a bad game when you keep making the same 7/10 game with a new gimmick for 20 years.

>>381320237
>the game is only challenging if i self impose rules on myself

then in that case i can say that kirby is a challenging game if you only use the normal jump without using the fly

>>381318346
>>381317893

I'm sure you have some nostalgia for the ability mixing but you're never able to use it anyway because the game arbitrarily demands you have X combination at X time or you won't be able to break X checkered wall
And when you're just playing it to get through the levels it's slow and boring with every level as a long corridor, no enemy variety, and stunted controls

>>381320107
>what are vector graphics

>>381320107
the same applies to real life... it cant be perfect
really makes you think...

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>>381320414
Not spamming healing items and face tanking everything is not the same as not using your fucking jump. Why are you so desperate to defend a series from someone who clearly likes it? I'm not the guy who said it's never been good.

>>381320150
Never forget Dreamland 3.

>>381320814
Yeah but Dreamland 3 sucks.

>>381316013
You can see it that way. Like with mainline Pokemon. But you can also see it that way that all those rehashes are worthless and make the series absolutely uninteresting. Like with mainline Pokemon.

>>381320814
w-what is rick doing to kirby?

>>381315927
What should he look like?

>>381321143
fucking it in the butt, bareback. will come on his face and have him clean the shit of his dick with his mouth
obviously

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>>381321379
Reminds me of an old story.

>>381316013
I mean, if you don't evolve the series at all how can it be bad? I've only played superstar ultra and I feel like I've played every Kirby from what I've seen

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>>381321061

>>381322060
Fight as much as you can -- you know I'm not wrong.

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All this new fags talking trash about Kirby they don't know how metal this game is.

>>381317032
The brawl graphics transformation was dumb. Kirby's model did change from melee to brawl so I don't know why they just made him identical

>>381318814
Planet Robobot and Return to Dreamland

>>381318764
It'd be nice if the platforming was challenging too

OH SHIT /v/ NINTENDO WANTS YOU TO REDESIGN KIRBY

DO YOUR BEST

>>381316013
Amazing Mirror
Mass Attack

And while the last few Kirby games haven't been bad, they're uninspired as fuck. Boring, actually.

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>>381322074
how can you be right if you haven't provided any reasoning whatsoever

wait shit i'm falling into a trap, if i get invested in this shit nothing will happen because nobody on /v/ is interested in discourse, only shitposting, and all this will lead to is an endless cycle of mental gymnastics where you never have to actually use your brain because you can't win an argument by saying "i don't have to explain why, it just sucks" but you can't lose an argument that way either, i better shitpost instead because that's how you win arguments now

shut the fuck up cuck neoredditfag and go back to ebaumsworld with your wife's son

i love /v/

I'm going to buy Kirby Switch. It'll be my first Kirby game.

>>381322331
Make him square

>>381322440
it is qualia you fucknugget

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>>381322331
Make him white

>>381317385
I mean, every game gets a new super move mechanic, plus the hard mode changes things up as well.

>>381322074
If you play kirby games you do it for the comfiness, which KDL3 excels in. The artstyke is great, the music is fantastic and the bosses are very creative. Maybe the level design could've been improved but that's about it.

>>381318939
Then don't play fucking kirby

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>>381322479
I'm sure you'll love it anon

>>381322379
fuck you amazing mirrors and robobot was amazing.

>>381322642
I play Kirby for the level design, because that's where the comfiness comes from. Okay, everything else helps, but playing KD2, 3, 64 + TD is very...unsettling. It's like everything's kind of off and lonely. But Superstar Ultra has a huge sense of place with excellent level design, and it's comfy af.

>>381322723
I don't know if you're being sarcastic but thanks, I hope I do.

I'm going to buy Yoshi Switch too. I've never owned a Yoshi game either.

>>381322736
all you had to say was that you prefer closed, dense level design over spacious level design

what's the point in trying to shitpost so hard with an opinion like that

>>381322891
>what's the point in disagreeing with me
>don't you see it's futile?

>>381322947
>Fight as much as you can -- you know I'm not wrong.

>>381323004
Exactly.

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>play a game literately made for young kids
>"WHAT THE FUCK MAN, WHY IS THIS GAME TOO EASY!?!"

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>>381316910

>>381317893
Holy shit you have terrible standards. You're definitely nintendogaf

>>381323117
Yeah but if I don't like eggs I'm allowed to say I don't like eggs.

>>381323303
You are, but you shouldn't say eggs are shit just because you don't like them.

>>381322882
I love the kirby series, so I'm not being sarcastic. If you do enjoy, you're lucky to have found a series that pretty much has no bad games.

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>>381323303
>YOU like eggs? Holy shit, talk about terrible taste, only manchildren enjoy eggs, eggs are objectively shit, just try and prove me wrong.

>>381323383
Why not? Anyone with 2 brain cells can infer that it's just his opinion.

>>381317290
They did make a mode similar to this.

>>381322725
Amazing Mirror was a mess with a fedora on top, and Robobot was the same goddamn game we played the last 2 times.

>>381322379
AM is great. MA is pretty good.

>>381323490
You're clearly new here.
The retards in question actually believe their opinions are facts.

>>381323490
>people here got 2 or more brain cells

>>381323441
>YOU like children's games? But you're a man. I guess that makes you some kind of man but also child? Man-child, for short. Huh...

>>381324529
>anon tries to sound smart.bmp

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>assuming gamers want innovation when they just want their expectations to be met with existing brand names.

>>381324641
I do want innovation. But, actual innovation. Not gimmicks, and not stagnation.

>>381316910
>They're about as satisfying as learning to parallel park in a space the size of a stadium.
fucking kek

>>381324682
Then why are you looking for it in existing, old, well established IPs?

>>381315927
Kirby's like Megaman. Perfect an idea early enough and you only have to change by degrees.

>>381323431
To be honest, out of the Switch trailers from this E3 it's probably the game I'm the least excited for. Kirby's a cutie though and the Switch has no games so I'll still get it.

And like most Nintendo games, it looks like most of the fun would be from playing it with friends. But I have no friends

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>>381322331

Or alternatively

>Poyo, the edge.png

>>381324959
I'll be your friend

>>381325520
That's not how it works

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>>381315927
how do you improve on perfection?

>>381318814
Kirby games can be pretty brutal if you want to 100% them. Although it wasn't difficult, the challenge in Epic Yarn was to collect beads which you lost upon getting hit. Not as much to get to the end of the game.

>>381318814
>Every game with Kirby is absolute toddler tier to the point where you often can' even die.
It is an entry tier series, to be fair.

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>>381325903
like this

>>381317250
Honestly that's better than the illusion of difficulty in other games

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>>381325903
Least they could do is give him a better texture

>>381316910
>why isn't this game specifically designed for young small children challenging for my 20+ year old brain?

That's like asking why the creators of Dora the Explorer aren't targeting adults with their show. It's for small children and small children only.

If you want games for adults, get a PS4.

>>381324838
Because I found it in the earlier games.

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>We can't even have Kirby threads anymore
I hate nu/v/

>>381321379
>>381321143
That's Nago, you dumbfucks.

>>381326450
Kirby shaves every morning. Can't use that.

>>381327071
What?

>>381326839
>If you want games for adults, get a PS4
You mean games for children right?
On top of being incredibly simple they're often purchased by children and manchildren to validate the maturity they think they have.

Basically adult games are the games you like childish games are ones you pursue to prove something.

>>381317290
I'd kill for a full isometric kirby game

>>381317131
This a hundred times. All these "Nintendo is baby tier easy! I'm so mature!" posters are idiots. Unless the game is designed around the "so hard" mentality, they're easy as shit.

>>381317031
Crusader Kings 2

>>381316013
Air ride was cool tho

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>>381317139
delet

>>381316013
Dreamland 3 and 64. Don't quote me.

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Shitposting about Kirby should be a criminal offense

God, could you imagine fucking that soft little puffball Kirby?

>>381329194

>Hypernova bj

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>>381316013
relevant

>>381329194
I would fug a kirb, but not before I would fug Ribbon.

>>381316013
Squeak Squad and Rainbow Curse.
Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot, while not bad are stagnant.

>>381318939

Then Kirby is the wrong franchise. The devs outright said the main game is meant to be a tutorial game for kids, a comfy journey for adults, and with any actual challenge limited to post game.

>>381331884
>Squeak Squad and Rainbow Curse.
They weren't exactly bad games as much as they were a little too easy.
SS was fun for ability mixing and fucking around with Ghost.
Rainbow Curse was just Canvas Curse with none of the normal abilities but a charming artstyle and a fair bit of unlockables.

>>381316910
>They're all so easy
well you are playing as the Superman of videogames. ofcourse it would be easy

>>381320765
COURSE IT CAN
first you draw this head
Then you erase some of the detailes

>>381332124
>SS was fun for ability mixing
Yeah, variants of bomb and sword vs. Crystal Shards' attempt with all the abilities. Real fun there. I 100% it in under 24 hours, and was left with nothing more to do. And Rainbow Curse's controls were hit-or-miss. A perfect description of the entire game.

>>381315927
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>381334721
Exactly.
I don't know why /v/ has gotten into the mindset that games have to completely change just for the sake of changing.

That's what new IPs are for.

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>>381317521

>>381317290
>>381317385

What are you EVEN talking about, half of the kirby games released are some weird shit.

Mass attack, Canvas curse (and its sequel), dream course, tilt n tumble, they just put out the fucking RPG game for free on 3DS and there's an isometric one coming out soon too.

Kirby gets more consistent experimintation than maybe any other videogame character. Like half of his games are some weird shit and every "typical" kirby game excepting maybe a few has some weird shit going on in it too. There are so few "just a kirby game" games to the point where you can break them down as "the one where he pilots a robot, the metroidvania one, the one where it's 8 small games" etc.

>>381316910
so many toddlers assblasted by the truth

>>381333367
>forgot to mention how ridiculously easy SS's final boss is

>>381318814

I'm sorry, but in what world does easy =/= good?

If that's all you got to show, your argument is shit.

>>381317290
I want to agree with you, but I sincerely felt that Triple Deluxe was one of my favorite Kirby games when it came out, and then Robobot came out and was even better. There were clear iterations between RtDL, TD, and Robobot, and it's not like the environments are all the exact same style.

>>381336025
Anon, look at the post he's replying to.

>>381315927

I kind of want a webm of all of the 3D Kirbies doing the whole arms swinging back and forth thing.

>>381318814
Arin egraptor Hansen can't understand the controls of fucking Kirby air ride

Yet at the same time that game is legit so fucking complex for a Kirby game that I'm still finding new ways to git good

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>>381317290
this, I love me some robobot but I also want a true 3d kirby, how hard to make can it be?

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>>381315927
>Kirby raises his arms higher in each image

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>/v/ hates Kirby now

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>>381317521

>>381318068
>what is Rainbow Curse
>what is Mass Attack
>what is Kirby Fighters Deluxe

>>381338428
There's a reason it's called Neo-/v/

>>381328845
Those were solid games.

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>>381339702
...

>>381315927
Fucking finally someone said it. At least make another Super Star style game. RtD,TD,PR, and Switch all look and handle the same.

>>381317031
le cuck gaem

>>381316013
Epic Yarn

That game is so fucking mind numbingly boring and easy it legitimately almost put me to sleep

>>381317521
hoohoohahah

>>381319209
That's literally what anti aliasing is.

>>381340506
Not everybody's perfect, anon.

>>381317305

Kirby 64 is the only Kirby game I like

>>381332080
For the first game only, Adventure, Dreamland 2 and Super Star about the right amount of challenging for Kirby.

>>381315927
I remember the joke in the smash 3 trailer where it turned all the melee models into the then new models for wii and kirby wasn't changed at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbetJKOQB7k

>get Return to Dreamland on Wii back when it first released
>Friend who doesnt play videogames was crashing at mines
>Ask him if he wants to play a game he says sure
>Start it up
>Right away can see he's kinda uncomfortable with the kiddy cartoon graphics and the little pink fluff ball
>"Haha its better than it looks anon trust me it's fun!"
>He gives it a go anyway
>We are like 2 minutes in and one of us pick up a healing item, characters walk past each other
>They fucking KISS each other or regurgitate food or something but it looks like they fucking kiss
>I slowly turn my head to my friend
>Staring at me with a look of disgust and shame

Fucking normues. I still cringe to this day thinking about it.

>>381340506
>it legitimately almost put me to sleep
That's the best part.
It's comfy

>>381341738
lol what a tard

i'm referring to you and him

>>381341664
Why is the Smash theme song always so fucking hype?

>>381341738
wouldn't be an issue if you weren't friends with homophobes, non

Kirby should've never had a guard button. It makes the game even easier than it already was.

>>381343178
brawl theme is a work of art

>>381315927
So you want gimmicks?

>>381341664
>dat Snake reveal at the end
The hype reached critical mass at that time. I don't think I have ever been that hyped for a game in my life.

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>>381317305

>>381316013
WHAT IS KIRBY'S EPIC YAWN

>>381343217
A good player would never need to use it anyway.

>>381341738

>kiss

I always even as a kid assumed he feeds the helper like bird parents do, regurgitating it back up.

>>381343217

Well you can still make a self imposed no-guarding play.

>>381317893
>Most series's haven't
That is a blatent lie and you know it.
Mario has Mario is Missing and Hotel Mario.
Zelda has those awful CDi games.
Metriod has Other M, Pokemon has Pokemon Channel and Hey You Pikachu, Donkey Kong has the gameboy port of country, the list goes on.

>>381343217
The game is meant for children. If you find it easy, just don't use it.

>>381343594
There is a difference between IP and series.
Mario is an IP. Mario 3D platformer, 2D platformer and the RPG games are 3 different series.

>>381343594
>most
>lists only 4

>>381343736
The game is meant for children. If you're an adult, just don't play it.

>>381344151
That makes absolutely no sense.
It's a kids game but adults can enjoy it as well. Just that the adult should actually understand that it's not aimed at them and might be easier than they would want.

>>381344151
>there are kids like this that believe that maturity is defined by what you enjoy

>>381343594
If Kirby was as big of an IP as Mario or Zelda, it would have had a shitty CD-i game too. And while Other M was a mediocre game with a god-awful story, I'd say it's more enjoyable than the majority of Kirby games.

>>381315927
Jesus Christ, WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED???

>>381343217
yeah I never use that shit

>>381344354
This

>>381344274
There's a difference between a game being aimed at kids and a game being enjoyable by all ages. For example, 3D Mario games can all be played and completed by children but they have mechanics and controls that actually test the player and feel good to control. Kirby games are incredibly simplistic in comparison, the closest thing the game has to depth is the copy abilities and even then you never get tested as a player since the level design is non-existent and the combat is trivial. It's fine if you enjoy playing games that require practically no concentration to beat but claiming that the majority of Kirby games are "good" is just a straight up lie.

>>381322891
This is probably the reason I dislike superstar so much, everything is so small and cluttered. And then on top of that, or maybe as a result of it, everything is harder to navigate and the whole thing just becomes annoying.

>>381319223
Children are not the main demographic. They like to stay family friendly but that's certainly not the case.

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I can understand playing Mario.
I can understand playing Zelda.
I can understand playing Splatoon.

But fucking KIRBY or Yoshi?
Are you literally five years old?

>>381344795
3D Mario games are obviously aimed at teenagers. In fact I would say that every Mario game is aimed primary at teenager while everyone can enjoy them. Kids the Wold 1 and adults the later worlds and finding all the hidden stuff.

Kirby is literally aimed at kids, sub 10 years old.

>>381344992
The original Yoshi's Island was pretty good. Every game since then has just been mediocre though.

>>381344992
Of course /v/ can't understand basic enjoyment.

>>381322379
>Amazing Mirror
>Bad
Fucking kill yourself.

>>381316910
This. The concept is always fun for an hour but you can cheese these games too easily. It's good for what they try to be but it's not like it's an achievement.

It's the opposite of
>its a good game, just not a good x game

>>381323303
>food analogy

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>>381344992
I can understand enjoying things I don't enjoy.

But shitposting on THE INTERNET?
Are you literally retarded?

>>381317031
Fallout 4

>>381344795

For that you have to define "good" first.
So for you good = challenging but others may define it differently, it's all personal.

>>381316013
I can't stand the 3DS games, the movement is so fucking slow

>>381344324
>there are kids like this that believe that maturity is defined by what you enjoy
Agreed. I could say, "You're immature because you play Kirby" and I'd be dead wrong. That's mistaking a symptom for a cause, right there.

>>381345392
A good game is one that fully utilises its mechanics. Kirby games never do that.

>>381345574
So what mechanics aren't used then

>>381344274
If Kirby still stimulates you for more than 10 minutes you have a simple mind. Like that of a kid.

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>>381317521

>>381345716
Or you want to relax and are playing an easy, cute game where you can relax.
But hey, no everyone can be as mature and deep as you are.

>>381345716
You realise you can say the same about most games right?
They aren't designed to "stimulate" they're designed solely for entertainment. You'd be hard pressed to find a game that's truly stimulating outside of puzzle games.

>>381315927
>/v/ is now shitting on fucking Kirby
Is nothing sacred to you underage assholes?
Not enough burly, sweaty men and guns for you?

>>381345716
>ADH?D = maturity
lol

>>381345716
If Video Games still stimulates you for more than 10 minutes you have a simple mind. Like that of a kid.

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I knew this day would come, when the shit posters would come to the Kirby threads.

>>381345953
Kirby was supposed to be a burly tough guy in a cute pink ball's body until it was decided he should be a baby with an annoying voice at some point.

>>381346178
Allah's work is already done.

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>>381317521

>>381346178
>oh no. there are people with dissenting opinions in my hugbox
Get over yourself

>>381344324
this post defines a generation. good work

>>381346178
I thought it was over now that Metroidfriends finally got their games. But nope, reddit came by and just had to direct their hate to Kirby because it's isn't mature and hardcore enough.

>>381346178
It's a sad day indeed.

>>381315927
I really hate this Kirby design. I wish they went back to his Melee design or even his original>>381317809

>>381345662
For a start, copy abilities are not pushed to their limit. You can get through a significant portion of most games relying on just a single copy ability while ignoring a lot of them. Each copy ability has a fair number of moves available but the player is rarely required to utilise it to its full capability. The level design is also incredibly dull, the game is clearly not optimised for Kirby's infinite jumping and it renders the games completely brain dead. The only remotely interesting Kirby games are the ones that try to be something other than a generic platformer and those are often quite rough around the edges.

To put things into perspective, Subspace Emissary was essentially a Kirby game with Smash characters whose moveset had a lot more depth than any copy ability in a Kirby game. Yet almost no-one thinks that portion of the game was amazing because they have standards.

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>>381346367
It's not opinions it's shitting up the thread with useless arguments that have been used countless times in the past over and over in other threads about different games.

But I won't bother as you'll probably reply with some smug picture or a shit opinion again.

>>381315927

I would rather Kirby stay the same with new gameplay additions than having it go berserk and become Sticker Star

>>381340506
It actually put me to sleep
and I was playing co-op. it's just that boring

>>381346753
This.

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>>381317521

>>381317031
skyrim

>>381346178
Op here.

I love Kirby but the mainline games are essentially New Super Mario Bros rehash tier

I wish they would mix it up a bit with the series. Try a 3D kirby like the 3D Mario's or something. Even that scrapped isometric GameCube game looked interesting. Enough with the fucking 2D shit it's too samey.

>>381315927
legit true

>>381347146
>Op here.
Fuck off.

>>381347091
todd pls

>>381347146
>OP here.
Fuck off.

>>381347146
>op here
Nice reddit

>>381343956
>This horseshit
That's just a lazy way of segmenting a series in an attempt to claim that it's never actually had bad games.

>>381344102
I'm not going to list every game series in existence, but sure, have some more.
Spyro has everything after the classic trilogy.
Crash has everything after the classic trilogy.
Sonic has too many bad games to mention cleanly here.
Twisted Metal has 3 and 4.
Mortal Kombat has 4.
Street Fighter has Street Fighter the Movie, the Game.
Wario has Game & Wario.
The longer a series goes on, the closer the probability of there being a bad game approaches zero.

>>381347201
just fucking buy it

>>381345716
>stimulates you
this is activated almonds levels of pretentious

>>381346816
So basically you're complaining that you don't HAVE to use these options when you can use them if you want.
You're not really making a good point for yourself.

>>381321061
Who would actually have this opinion?

>>381347323
Like I said, a truly great game will fully push the mechanics to the limit. Kirby games can only be considered mediocre at best because clearly there isn't a lot of thought that goes into the game.

>>381347442
Define "limit".

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>>381347170
>>381347235
>>381347257

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just found out you can emulate the 3ds games at a decent speed now
play kirbs

>>381347626
>not already having a hacked 3ds

>>381346896

The main point of the thread was the lack of innovation on the kirbys series, if you don't like it you can hide the thread fuckface

>>381347626
Wew what resolution can you get it upscaled to?

I bet 3DS games actually look pretty good in 720p and such

>>381343180

this honestly

>>381347972
*The main point of the thread wad shitposting

>>381348191
Here's your hugbox, anon
>>381261582

>>381347271
>That's just a lazy way of segmenting a series in an attempt to claim that it's never actually had bad games.
It's not.
You can't seriously claim that Mario Party, Paper Mario and Mario 64 are the same series.

>>381348164
4k but it's not optimized

>>381347972
>Lack of innovation
Spoken like a true shitposter who doesn't play games.

>>381347972
>The main point of the thread was the lack of innovation on the kirbys series
Not that you can judge innovation solely on a character's design.
Especially when said character is a is a pink ball with minimal features.

>>381347520
I'll use another example of a good game. Super Mario 64 has the side-flip. It's not required to beat the game since the backflip also exists and it's much easier for novice players to pull that off. But if a player can master the side-flip, they get rewarded with smoother movement options and can take a fair number of shortcuts. Another example would be Super Metroid. Bomb-jumping, shine-sparking and wall-jumping isn't required to beat the game but if the player can master them they can sequence-break, reach certain upgrades and get a much faster completion time. In both cases, the developers have designed the levels to completely cater to all of the player's movement options so the mechanics are being pushed to their "limit". Essentially they're focusing on how the character controls first, then designing levels around them to make full use of their capabilities.

Now let's compare that to Kirby games. First of all, the moves you can do with a copy ability are all basic, there's no depth to the controls. Secondly, your movement options are still pretty much the same no matter what copy ability you use. The developers have added all these copy abilities with their own movesets, but that's as far as the effort goes. The challenge levels in some games have a bit more thought put into the level design but the main game is just lazy.

>>381317031

dark souls

>>381348791
So now you're praising a game because you can use those options even though they aren't required.

You're not too good at arguing are you.

>>381349092
I've explained the difference between how Kirby implements optional moves and how good games implement optional moves.

You're not too good at reading are you?

>>381348791
>there's no depth to the controls
When it gets to the point that "dash, jump, tap B" and "dash, jump, hold B" produce different results, I'd say that the controls are just

You're right that your movement options re: platforming don't change much, but floating isn't a platforming tool, it's a combat tool. Quickly repositioning and abusing invincibility frames is far more viable with certain powers than others.

>>381349651
>>381348791
whoops didn't finish my sentence.
I'd say that the controls are just as "deep" as "flick the stick in the direction opposite to your movement and press jump"

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>>381346753
I don't hate it but I don't like it as much. His proportions are too exaggerated now, which is a big change actually for such a simply designed character.

>>381316910
Welcome to Nintendo. May I take your order?

>>381349405
>I've explained the difference between how Kirby implements optional moves and how good games implement optional moves.
Not really no, you're just saying that they're underutilized for being what they are.
It's also worth noting that a lot of abilities and such are used to find secret areas throughout the game which has been an aspect of the series since abilities first came about. Basically, your argument is that they aren't using them in the way you like and the way they are using them is wrong.

You know anon, you might want to try talking about a game that you've actually played.

>>381315927
Its Kirby. We're not talking the biggest franchise ever. As long as it still Kirby at his best It shouldn't matter

>>381316910

I wouldn't call them bad, necessarily. They're just too easy for the most part. Not only that, but it's pretty slow-paced.

>>381317521
Ha! Pokémon Gale of Darknesssssssss

>>381349651
The difference in effect between "tap B" and "hold B" are negligible in the main game. Like I said, challenge levels are the only time when the mechanics get close to being tested and those are all really short.

Plus most Kirby levels are extremely open and the combat is basic, positioning is hardly important. Even in the True Arena, by far the best way to beat it is to just spam the same moves over and over.

>>381349783
If a game's mechanics are underutilized then that means the developers are being lazy with the level design. And the "secret" areas are all incredibly obvious. There are a number of platformers out there so if you want to make a good one, it either has to feel good to control or feel good to explore. Kirby fails at both. The copy ability is an interesting idea but lack the execution.

>>381345850
Watch a movie then ir listen to music
>>381345897
>aren't designed to stimulate
They literally are. But kirby games are meant to stimulate kids and if it still works on you, you're mentally a child
>>381345981
Ironic because kirby games can be played without paying much attention as
>>381345850 suggests
>>381346007
Not an argument
>>381347308
It's true though. Has nothing to do with pretentiousness. Know what WOULD be pretentious? Claiming Kirby is a suitable game for a 14+year old

Nothing wrong with liking Kirby, just stop pretending you're mature.

>>381350905
>And the "secret" areas are all incredibly obvious.
I guarantee you haven't found the HAL rooms in Robobot.

>>381351079
>Watch a movie then ir listen to music
Why would I when I can relax and get more enjoyment out of a Kirby game.
You really are retarded.

>>381347146
>>381347972
We see improvements in level design, boss battles, post-game, minigames and gimmicks over the course of RTDL to PR

I agree that the 2D formula is getting a bit stale but ignoring how much Robobot improved upon its previous titles is just stupid.

HAL has constantly said that they will tackle a True 3D Kirby title but the transaction from 2D for 3D for a franchise like Kirby (also megaman) means a lot of drastic changes to the core game.

>>381316910
This. How anyone can honestly say Kirby games are good I don't know. They're not bad either, they're just so bland and generic, they all sort of blur together, there's no challenge or excitement to any of them. There's no story, no interesting gameplay, no major draw for the series. The graphics are never anything special, the enemies are always the same, the maps are just mediocre, even the music is boring at times. The only interesting one was the cart racer spinoff

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>>381351079
>Know what WOULD be pretentious? Claiming Kirby is a suitable game for a 14+year old
I'd like you to really think about the implications of that statement. That would be like if a pretentious, Ebert-like moviegoer put The Incredibles in the same league as Casablanca. That would be like if Robert Christgau gave the highest recommendation for Billy Joel or Boston. "Pretentious" doesn't mean whatever the fuck you want it to mean. You know what a pretentious gamer might like? Games with highly complex themes, ambiguous storytelling, and minimalist artstyles. Last time I checked, Kirby has none of those things.

>>381318939
>not 1% of it
Kirby's Avalanche is for you.

>>381352245
But liking actually complex things doesn't make you pretentious. It's liking things that PRETEND to be deep and complex
>>381351268
Whe you can get fun out of a kirby game and are over 14 years old YOU are the retard

>>381352954
>It's liking things that PRETEND to be deep and complex
I'm pretty fucking sure Kirby has never pretended to be deep or complex.

>>381316013
First post best post, like always. Thread should have just ended here.

>>381353117
And no one has ever said it was trying to be deep or complex either. What is this anon talking about exactly?

>>381352245
Kirby has a minimalist art style, in a few aspects.

>>381315927
Kirby is the Xenomorph of vidya, he's the perfect organism.

>>381353202
Kirby is deep and complex.

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>>381352954
This is embarrassing now.
It's like (you)'re just being pissy because (you) can't enjoy some nice lighthearted fun.
Some people want to take a break from the pressure and stress of the real world, and Kirby is great for exactly that.
Please fuck off back to whatever overly serious pretentious shithole (you) crawled out of.

>>381351809
Real talk I think kirby would make for a dank 3d collectathon

>>381353117
But their fans do

>>381320150
Anon the trailer clearly had at least one fabric/yarn themed world.

>>381353737
>you're pissy
Incredibly. Really outrageous that immature manchildren are on the mental level of a toddler. Aaaah I'm so angry I'm short of enabling capslock!
it's always the ":^)"/laughing reaction image that gives away madness btw

>>381320367
Yoshi has never had a good game.

>>381353867
Well Paper Mario and Metroid must be fucking garbage then because their fanbases are insufferable.

Also, no? This thread >>381261582 is- or apparently, was- full of genuine Kirby fans. I can't see a single one trying to unironically say that Kirby is a deep, mature series full of complex themes, do you?

>>381354327
There is nothing wrong with Paper Mario or Metroid fans.

>>381316784
best Kirby was Kirby and the Magic Mirror for GBA, 4 player coop was the best

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>there are actual posters in this board who don't appreciate kirby
>there are actual posters in this board who will shit on Triple Deluxe and Robobobobot just to be le ebin contrarian shitposter
you disgust me. kirby is one of the last bastions of actual vidya. it's just fun. no bullshit, no filler, no qtes, no cutscenees.
just fun.

>>381354526
I know how you love /v/ memes and Nintendo, but there really isn't. Not compared to the background cancer of just being a fanbase, anyway.

>>381354123
Nah, I'm pretty sure that equating my laughter to anger shows how mad (you) really are, an that post is even more pissy than your last one :^)
Caring so much about the perceived maturity of strangers on the internet is unhealthy.

Kirby direct when? Its basically guaranteed.

>>381354653
>no cutscenees
>mentions robobot in the same post

>>381324529
this sounds like the kid who cant win in mario kart or Smash

>>381317139
HI Jadf

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>>381317521
holy fuck

>>381323303
>Food analogy episode on /v/

>>381316974
This

The difficulty argument is us avoiding the fact that with our years of experience inside our fully developed adult brains, there is no game that is too hard to complete other than multiplayer games that focus on competition.

Even the so called hardest games just rely you to learn patterns. Thats it. I dont see that as a true test of skill.

>>381317139
what is this font? It's always in doujins

>>381315927
why the fuck are you taking shit on kirby, those games nerver hurt anybody, just because the games use the same engine doesn't mean you can have more things in it and new levels new story.

>>381324959
Kirby has a bit of a reputation now for good music and final bosses. If anything, this game might pique your interest for older kirby games.

>>381318814
if you dont smile while playing epic yarn you have no soul

also the racing one is fun no mattter what you do

>>381346753
i cant even tell the difference

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>>381317521

>>381316910
>hasn't played super star

If it aint broken, dont fix it. This is were western companies fail.

>>381316013
FIRST
POST
BEST
POST

>>381359695
>This is were western companies fail.
isn't there like five RE4 clones coming out next year

>>381355041
Almost as unhealthy as defending a kids game as vehemently as you

>>381360558
so what you're saying is, everyone should just stop arguing with you so that you can be right

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>>381360558
>an hour later
>two posts poking fun at a 2serious fgt is 'vehemently defending'
I'll stop now because making fun of special needs kids is rude

>>381346189
When?