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FFXIV STORMBLOOD

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>WoW hired third party hackers to DDOS SB's launch for days to try and keep people from bleeding off their game

Could Blizzard get any lower?
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>>381300647
>The mute one who works for the market is the cutest.
Where?
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>SE does a free login period where there are no issues
>Somehow a "DDOS attack" is supposed to be worse
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>>381300684
>source:me
Cmon anon, you've gotta try harder than that
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>>381300684
>tfw SAM/BRD parsing top DPS since the ACT update
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>>381300814
>>381300767
t. blizzdrones
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>>381300724
She is in the main building at the market in steppes. You meet her to get an aether flow for quest but she has an entire quest line where you try to talk to her through emotes.

Would show you but servers are down and all
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>Second expansion in a row where she does literally nothing.
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So there are no Leves for battle jobs in SB?
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>Playing as a Ninja
>Get to Doma
>Series of quests where it's just Yugiri and you doing sneaky things, having bonding moments, and riding off to your deaths in a foolhardy mission with a low chance of success.
>She acknowledges you as a fellow Shinobi on a number of occasions throughout.
>Not a Lyse or Alisae in sight to ruin the mood.
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>>381301008
PLEASE

UNDERSTAND
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>>381300970
I can feel it. She's gonna get killed off during 4.x.
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>>381301008
sure there are, they're called normal fucking quests go do them and stop requesting dumb shit you don't need. next question, shit-for-brains?
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Are servers down yet?
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>>381300970
She's dead.

Died in 2.0, and her corpse has lacked the dignity to stay down.
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>>381301031
i love now that your job gets referenced for certain scenes, i'm going through as WHM since i've mained it since XI (I know, I know) but I'm about to hit 70 before the end of the MSQ and i;m thinking i'll do the rest on NIN
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>tfw playing way of the samurai during maintenance
This xpac really peaked my weeb boner
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RISE
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To the anon who was asking: aero iii remains a separate skill.
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>>381301118
>i love now that your job gets referenced for certain scenes
I was wondering about this during the attack on the reach scene, krile called me out as a healer I was wondering if it was just because I was WHM at the time
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>>381301085
Wow what an autistic bitch, go outside or something
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>Finish main story quest
>Barely got to enjoy any of it because of lyse

Im sad.
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>>381301287
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>>381301148
>tfw no Tenchu Z on pc
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>>381301240
Healers get to help heal. Others are on holding duty.
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Zenos is fucking based. So many god slayer wol are salty as fuck he shits on your character in the first fight.
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>>381301240
Yeah that was the scene that surprised me, I'm going to look back see if anything happens if you're DPS/Tank but i figure it's just for scenes that seem fitting.

Little details like that make me smile

now please have our WoL have lines of dialogue instead of just nodding, Yoshi and we'll be golden
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>not done MSQ
>scared of being spoiled but want to be in these threads anyways

Fucking XIV servers being so unstable recently or I would be done by now.
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How bad did they fuck up the game with Stormblood?
Is Gathering and Crafting still as shit as they made it in HW or did they attempt to fix it? Get rid of or change scrips.
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>>381301240
>>381301108
>>381300970
>krile and y'shtola are healers
>for some reason y'shtola decided to try and tank Zeno
>surprised when she gets BTFO
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>>381301371
>So many god slayer wol are salty as fuck he shits on your character in the first fight.
Are people really upset that Zenos curb-stomps you? That's like the best goddamn thing in the story.
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Zenos tells WoL that he is like him, libing only for battle.

Estinien in HW mentions how he realises that he and Nidhogg were much alike, living only for vengeance.

I see.
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>>381301434
No one dies the expansion.
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>>381301463
>implying healers aren't tanky as fuck in pvp
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>>381301349
That's pretty neat, is Oriens also based on your grand company or is it just a coincidence there were a ton of storm guys giving me quests?
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>>381301523
WOW ANON THAT WAS TOTALLY UNEXPECTED
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>>381301118
You get special dialogue from Yugiri for being a NIN
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>>381301062
>Face of the game in cross-over material.
>The main Mi'qote in the game.
>Most popular named NPC for FFXIV porn.
>Most popular waifu with the playerbase in general.

She's not going anywhere. They just like to tease her death over and over again.

>"'Shtola! Don't overexert yourself or you'll die!"
>"If she doesn't accept her blindness and stop using her Aether, she'll die!"
>"Zenos almost killed her, but she'll be fine!"

It helps keep the player on edge and ramp up the drama factor, since we already know they're not afraid to kill characters to a degree, so there's always that sense of "What if they do it this time?"
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>>381301463
to be fair she used the same technique in 1.0's LL scene as well as in ARR to shield the Scions from Lahabrea

I think they were all just shocked af over Zenos's strength
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>>381301523

I expected he would die but I hoped he would die like during a later patch.
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>>381301287
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>>381300880
played MCH all of HW, fucking bailed on that job teh secodn I saw how BRD was gonna be updated. All I have to say is I regret nothing!
Sustained high dps, constant song uptime, timing your Troubadeur and songs to the boss' ultimate attack etc.
So much to pay attention to, but man does it finally feel like a proper bard. Heck, the day I hit 70, I got to ilevel 304 because I joined a PUG for Susano EX and farmed him for hours (am 310 now though). Ended up getting BRD bow, SCH book, and 8 currencies so 2 more kill and I am guaranteed SAM sword!
It's starting to look more and more like Bard from "RIFT", which I makes me super happy since it's my favourite interpretation of the class ever.

Also leveling SAM atm, those 25k crits while level 63 makes me super happy. Just sucks that the queues are insanely slow as DPS...
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>>381301576
Nero shows up
all the implied deaths are fake
you kill off shinryuu with ease
you save the world as always
and lolascians are gonna show up again
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>>381301523
>Alphinaud calls him a coward

I mean Zenos knows is father won't bargain for him let alone the humiliating position Garlemald would be in if the Alliance don't out right public execute him or humiliate him.
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>>381301523
his english VA is so damn good
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>>381301371
My only salt so far is that a number of the single-story instances have WAY too much HP.

Like, it's no wonder people were having a hard time getting through "Best Served with Cold Steel," as that instance takes like 10+ minutes of whittling to get through.

And it's kinda the same with the Zenos fights. They're neat, but fuck do they last WAY too long. It's not even like you're in serious threat of death unless you're retarded... It's just whittle, whittle, okay finally proc'd the damn story.
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>>381301484
To be honest Ive stopped questioning how he could easily best you. Its kike trying to explain why if DC made a new Superman villain he would be a threat when Supes had fought off people like Zod, Bizzaro, Metallo, Brainiac, Darkseid etc.
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>>381301590
Welp, I'm motivated now. She is best girl and should have been the Maiden of Revolution, thank you /v/ for the spoilers
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>>381301503
WILL ZENOS POSSESS ME
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>>381301536
I think that's coincidental because all companies are working together. I suspect some of your dialogue choices lead to different voiced responses, but I haven't tested this yet. There are some instances where the response is quite specific.
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>>381301450

It's more of the same, but SE tried to tweak crafting skills and make specialties worth having. Still have weekly scrip shit though.

DoH is even more of the same, only FSH now gets to spearfish above and underwater. So that's cool I guess. Unlocks at 61.
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>>381301503
The WoL is the tempered of Hydaelyn, her ultimate manifestation, created only for violence as a planetary self-defense mechanism.

Zenos was a horrific test subject crafted by Emperor in order to make a better soldier and ultimate weapon. They are very much the same.
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>>381301531
absolutely fuck healers in pvp so much.
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why they need to kill characters? ever since game of thrones fags think killing characters is a plot twist or something
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>>381301531
Okay, this is true. I once tanked like 5-6 fuckers somehow. I don't even know how. I just kept spamming my heals, barriers, and MP refreshes on myself until the rest of my team respawned nearby.
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I just want Yotsuyu to step on my dick
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I unironically enjoyed Lyse's company but understand why others don't.
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>>381301536
it's a joint venture with all the GC and Ishgard, but you get recognized by your GC mates, it's pretty nice.
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>>381301008
Because battlecraft leves are extremely obsolete right now. PvP gives tons of XP, PotD is a thing and Stormblood has a shitton of quests. I actually leveled from 60 to 70 exclusively by doing each dungeon once and by doing quests, and i still have quests left over.
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>>381301614
>so there's always that sense of "What if they do it this time?"
Not for me there isn't.

They won't fucking kill her, so every time they try and go "OMG SHE MIGHT DIE!!!" it just robs the scene of any tension. She can't die, and they don't want her to do anything, so they conveniently find a way to write her out every storyline.

I genuinely don't know what the fucking point of her character is. Except for bland, entry-level waifu-bait.
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I am a glutton for punishment and want to roll a dps class next.

RDM or MCH?

Both are new to me so I don't care about the shinyness of RDM. Just legit curious which is more fun.
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>>381301795

Too bad she amounted to nothing and you never get to fight her.
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Subbed for the first time and I have no fucking clue what I'm doing.
I'm a level 30 summoner, have mixed level 18-25 armour, have a level 18 quest that has a christmas tree on it and forgot all of the rotations.
How should I try to get better armour? Besides just doing quests obviously.
Is summoner a good job for 30-50?
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>>381301807
I honestly don't like alphinaud and don't understand why people do and unironically think alisaie is top tier and lyse was jsut fine.

Hien was best companion of expansion though. Wish we saw more of hancock
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>>381301864
She's still alive, maybe you will eventually.
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>>381301864
>Too bad she amounted to nothing and you never get to fight her.
The after-credits scene might point to more, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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>>381301864
She's still alive though, we'll get more from her in future patches
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>>381301807
The fact that our entire relationship was built on a lie with her trying to be someone she wasn't - and to which I only received a cursory apology for with no attempt to earn my trust back made me dislike Lyse's company
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>>381301763
the heal potencies are like 4 times those of the damage ones
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>>381301754
I thought the emperor was disgusted with his son and considered him a monster hence the lack of emotion from his death.
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>>381301807
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>>381301807
This.
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>>381300684
What compared to first party DDOS hackers?
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>>381301979
She was a prostitute I have no use for used goods.
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I find it more likely that their shitty new servers just can't handle a bit of extra load.
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Anyone have a link to the ripped music?
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I don't want to know details, but is the final battle of Stormblood as epic as Knights of the Round?
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>>381301614
>Most popular waifu with the playerbase in general.
God only knows why. There are incidental NPCs with more character and development than fucking Y'shtola, and you can throw a rock and hit a catgirl. She's hardly special enough to warrant it.
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>>381301904
don't worry too much about the stuff, as long as you don't end fights with 5% HP you're fine, just like any other mmo

every job is decent; just pick one you like, you can clear the main content with pug, no one will shit things like "need [this job] or kick"
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>>381302096
It's better.
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>>381302096
No, but Shinryu is a pretty fucking amazing fight. Hope they turn it into the hardcore trial for offpatches.
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>>381302096
I would say yes?
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arya is cute!
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>>381302043
So you want someone who is as inexperienced as you?
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>>381300970
>Scions
>doing LITERALLY FUCKING ANYTHING
Did we play the same game?

They're not even useful for spirit-bombing.
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>>381301904
What the fuck kind of questions are these? Just play the game you retard. Drop the christmas quest because you can't do it anymore and if you really need gear hit up the auction house. You shouldn't though, as you get lots handed to you from dungeons.
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>>381301904
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9234771773411559458/forum/18185/

Vendors can sell you acceptable gear while you level to 50. That link has a list of what vendors sell what level gear.

Summoner has been a nerfed in stormblood but if you're still enjoying it there's no reason not to stick with it. Anyone talking about cucksheds is memeing and doesn't realise that this shit doesn't matter unless you're in the top 1% of players that minmaxes all content.

If you've forgotten rotations just hop into a dungeon or find some mobs out in the world and practise until you get a feel for it again.
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How can other zones in this game even compete with the Azim Steppe?

>10/10 visuals
>One of the best field themes in the game
>Extremely interesting lore and worldbuilding, was the only part of the expansion where i really felt like i was in a place completely different from Eorzea
>Xaela clans are cool as fuck
>Best single player instance in the game
>CUTEST GIRL Anyone know who's her Japanese voice actress? Her voice is so girlish and adorable.
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>>381301904
SMN main here.Reroll.
Atleast they gave you earrings that give you more EXP till 50 and you really dont need to quest anymore if you really want to catch up quick.
Do Palace of the Dead.

I hope you preordered.
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>>381301914
>I honestly don't like alphinaud and don't understand why people do
He's got actual development throughout the story, he went from whiny brat, to cocky kid, to depressed, to finally understanding his place and attempting to grow as a person and alisaie makes a great character for him to bounce off of and not become too perfect although estinien made and even better one
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>>381301760
I think oeople are waiting fir the next Hauchefant, Ysayle, Papalymo etc.

The thing is those deaths were meaningful, helped drive the plot forward and for a lot of people unexpected.
Deaths just for the sake of killing off NPCs doent mean much.
That said, in the next few patchs I can see Thancred dying. Since everything they can do with him is done, he cannot use magic anymore and the onky thing he can really do is have closure.
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>>381301845

Haven't played new MCH yet but RDM is fun as fuck, very stylish and flamboyant. Loved MCH in HW though- only the opener was a pain in the ass, and that's completely gone now. I'm kind of skeptical of the heat management system but I haven't tried it beyond making sure my keybinds felt good on a target dummy. Seems to be alright. Just that BRD stole the show with its latest rework and awesome raid utility.

Both are priority and proc-based so you don't have to worry about memorizing a chain of moves to do in order. It's better for intuitive types rather than logical, I guess.
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>>381302139
they will senpai. they did it for thordan
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>>381301523
Oh really?
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>>381301614
>10 more years of expansions almost killing Y'shtola over and over and over and over and over again
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>>381301904
>Is summoner a good job for 30-50?
No
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>>381302158
another expansion, another storyline where all the secondary characters are fucking amazing compared to our boring friends
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>you will never be part of a quirky Samurai trio that roams the land punishing evil
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>>381302218
Might wanna check that after-credits scene, anon.
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>>381302218
Yes really
He is alive and yotsuyu is alive with him on an island
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>>381301845
I've been leveling MCH in potd and it's fun as fuck. It's a pretty technical class and keep a track of plenty of things.
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>>381301904
>rotations

>on summoner

Miasma > Bio II > if there's more than one target Bane

then you spam Ruin until you need to reapply your DoTs
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>>381302096
no

SB tries to mimic HW in every part of the MSQ from 60 to 70, be it with timing, whats gonna happen at what level and etc, and fails horribly

so far its HW>SB>ARR for me
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>>381301904
As for armour etc, try running your latest unlocked dungeon a few times and see if you can replace some stuff?

Christmas Tree quests is an event quest so really don't think you can complete it??

Rotations; literally not important until 50, 60 and 70. Just make sure your Miasma og Bio is up, and spread it if it's and AOE pull. Oh and keep your pet on Obey.

Keep on doing your main story and sidequests with a + on them to unlock stuff!

Godspeed!
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>>381302172
The Xaela clans are retards. They believe in retarded things and kill each other for no reason.
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>>381302373
>4.0
>Bane
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>Get home form work wanting to play
>Servers down due to ddos

Ok, which of you niggers did this shit
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>Fordola with 2fast4u magic buff is stronger than Zenos
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Post your characters
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>>381302493
pls no, that's for /xivg/
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>>381302172
>tfw "Crush the emperials, drive them before you"
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So anyone remember what the ending crawl text said exactly? All I remember something about hunter and prey (Zenos and Wol) and child and father which I assume is Zenos and Varis who will play more of a roll?
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>>381302229
>10 more years of Y'shtola being written out of storylines and having no character development because she's beyond saving.
She should've stayed 'dead' in 2.55.
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>>381302493
>>>/vg/
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>>381302460
It's maintenance you dipshit
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>DRK 60-70 questline
Fucking amazing
65 and 70 were pure kino
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>>381302460
You did it.
Squeenix thinks their paying customers trying to log in is a DDOS attack.
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>>381301760
>why they need to kill characters?

Here's a list.

>Because when there are too many characters and you need to remove the bloat, and having every character retire or go on an extended vacation isn't the best way to go about it.
>So that risky actions taken by characters (Like what Yugiri did) actually have an affect on the player. There would be no tension for the player if they knew going into an intense scene that it's impossible for the good guys to ever die.
>On the flip side, it makes it all the sweeter when a character DOES escape a life or death situation, instead of just being predictable.
>It's unrealistic in a setting so reliant on war and battle for there to only ever be causalities on the other side.
>Because life can not exist without death, just as death can not exist without life. Shying away from one while the other is so prevalent is unrealistic.

And while we only had a few minor deaths that didn't matter (I already forgot that one Ala Mhiggers name) in 4.0 so far, you can bet we'll lose one or two before the entire thing is said and done.
I doubt Lyse is on the chopping block, but it's entirely possible we'll lose another Scion or maybe a Doman or two.
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>>381302306
god damn anon, at least spoil your shit
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>>381301904
Go to limsa lominsa and get the quest to start POTD then grind POTD to 60 and buy 230 ilvl 60 gear for poetics gg wp
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>>381302460

Right now servers are down because of planned maintenance. They'll be up again by 3am PST/ 6am EST. The DDoS was apparently all weekend, but was only really felt in the hours leading up to maintenance today.

Just blame it on a butthurt fan of any competing MMO and call it a day.
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>>381301807
Lyse is cute. But don't you mess with her!
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>i've been wasting time doing ARR beast tribes

they really need to buff the xp from it or something. but that robo eye will look sick on a sam
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>>381302449
>kill each other for no reason
Have you just never read a single bit of the story?
They are the most peaceful race towards one another except once a year in order to determine whose dominant. AND GUESS WHAT? You can opt out, you don't have to fight and die.

Meanwhile ala mhigans had traitors killing their own, domans had traitors killing their own, the 3 main factions fight over resources all the time and note the PVP frontlines is a canon area that the 3 factions are killing each other for.
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Alisaie's ENDLESS complaining about everything is really starting to get on my nerves.
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>>381302172
i can listen to that theme for hours, god damn, in fact i'll do that while maintenance. going to re-read the patch notes, look over anything i might have missed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3yMqpaCrU
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>>381302172
THIS.
Azim Steppe instantly became my all-time favourite map in any MMO the second I arrived.
The style, the music, the atmosphere, it was all just on point.
Sure I have a soft spot for nomadic styled things, but this was just very... nostalgic, somehow. It reminded me A LOT of Calm Lands in FFX, somehow gave me the first Monster Hunter feeling as well.

Either way, best zone.
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>>381302586
I personally think it's probably from a cadre of BRs who are still mad about the server stuff.
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>>381302493
Just finished the 60 SAM quest, gonna start the SB msq tomorrow hopefully.
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I bought the expac this time yesterday. Was I fast enough to get the preorder bonuses? The earrings are the only thing I want.
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>>381302541
A lot of people should've stayed dead in 2.55. But people weren't ready for that. I knew people who were really upset at the idea we lost a lot of them. Gotta ease people into it like Minfilia and Papalymo.
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>>381302172
Azim Steppe's music and appearance is fucking 11/10 dicksucking good
Reminded me a lot of the Karaya from Suikoden III and the plains there
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>>381302626
the allied beast quest is well worth it, regardless of the mask, some really funny/great shit comes out of it.
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Why PLD is so fucking boring to play? I know hes powerful, but man, his rotations are snorefest
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>>381302678
>>>/vg/
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>>381302586
Protip: It wasn't the DDoS, although there was a minor event at the end of the day, Balmung - the most populated server - only reached about 48% capacity, although we at SE like to leave the servers at 25% for stability purposes.

The issue was with the instance management service and the fact that many thousands of players were quite literally failing to complete the trial or taking the full allotted time, so the backend instance queue was backed up to fucking high heaven, not allowing servers to spawn more instances across a datacenter.

Source: I literally work for SE.
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>>381302779
Should have made the other guy BLM.
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>>381302637
There is zero problems with Ala Mhigans dying.
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>>381302767
Because it's a tank. Holy Spirit/Requiescat saves it quite a lot though.
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>>381302460
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>>381302836
keep M'naago alive tho
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>Got a nice birb minion in PotD
>Sits on my shoulder if I idle for a bit

Well this is just fucking swell
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>>381302726
>>381302658
Right, the Azim Steppe really has this weirdly nostalgic feeling to it. It's so different from everything in this game but also so familiar. Honestly the entire expansion could have been about the steppe and i'd probably be happy.
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What's the Jenga tower going to be used for? New deep dungeon?
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>>381302839
I was playing DRK earlier this year, and he was WAY more enjoyable
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>>381302832
What. BLM is still the king of single target magic dps and is now also king of aoe magic dps. I don't know what your smoking.
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>>381302704
Did you get two codes or one? If it's two you got the preorder bonus enter it on the additional services page and the other on your main accounts page
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>>381302607

Lyse is dumb and her earnest charm is the only thing she has going for her. Alisaie and her were fun to travel with for a while, since it was dumb and dumber and WoL on epic adventures. Lyse with people who are past her point in character development is noticeably lacking and childish. I assume she'll get better but from where I am right now (about to enter the Azim Steppes dungeon) she looks like a huge weight that I'm going to have to drag around Othard until she fucks off to do something right for once.

Now I know why people hated Alphinaud. If the NPC slated for character development via proximity to the WoL isn't in thier strike zone, it can be a long slog.
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>>381302892
Future raid. It's clearly Allagan technology.
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>>381302892
Yes.
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>>381302493
The urge to go full weeb in this expansion is overwhelming.
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>>381302836
fuck you, I liked Meffrid and I'm happy that Arenvald made it alive so far
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>>381302905
All the jobs changed 4 days ago.
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>>381302716
>But people weren't ready for that.
How anyone gets so attached to those fucks, I'll never understand.

I get liking individual members. Character doesn't have to be an amazing monument to writing to be endearing, even for superficial reasons. But people genuinely shocked and dismayed over the Scions dying, and preferring them to live on as corpses robbed of what little character they originally had? Do people really get that attached to such dull characters?
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>>381302863
Tataru in a Kimono is fucking cute.

C U T E
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>>381302892
>Heaven-on-High
>Locked gate with some crazy braille looking lock
Probably, that or new raid dungeon
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>>381302918
I think you misunderstood me.
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Its so good, I love how toned down yet cool looking the starter SAM gear is
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will i get into endgame stuff with MCH? i read its the worst dps job in 4.0
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>>381302637
>and note the PVP frontlines is a canon area that the 3 factions are killing each other for.

This is false.
It's literally stated that wards and shit are in place that prevent people from killing eachother.

Frontlines is, canonically, a glorified slapfight.
No different than the mock-up wargames real life soldiers engage in using paintball guns.
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>>381302452
is it really a DPS loss like people say or is that a meme?

i mean mostly for SCH
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>>381302767
DRK is even worse.

TWO COMBOS.
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>>381303031
Not a fan of the metal corset, myself.
I glamoured it over with the nightgown to become Pajamurai.
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Did anyone else catch the Star Trek reference they slipped in at the Ruby Sea zone?
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>>381301523
>The Emperor
>Zenos
>Cid
Apparently Magiteck makes fucking amazing leave-in conditioner.
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>>381303042
the parsing programs are still buggy, nobody actually knows how strong the classes are yet
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>>381302640
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It feels so weird having the Reach be the end game hub. It really doesn't feel like it at all, probably because it's also the first hub in the expansion. Mor Dhona and Idyllshire had that high level feeling to them. Although, i do find it suspicious that the tomestone dealers are seemingly unrelated to Rowena. Perhaps she'll build a base and we'll migrate to the Ala Mhigan quarter in the future or something.
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>>381303064
Spreads a target's Bio and Miasma effects to nearby enemies.
Potency is reduced by 20% for the second enemy, 40% for the third, 60% for the fourth, and 80% for all remaining enemies.
Duration: Time remaining on original effect
Additional Effect: 15% chance that Bio and Miasma duration resets if shorter than original effect duration
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>>381302892
Or it's how you access Amaterasu in not-Takamagahara.
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>>381303031
that fox is from some hunt right?
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>>381302997
You know envision her during a strip dance in thise garbs.
You know envision Wedge blowing his load immediately at the sight.
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>got WHM to 70 and finished the story

Some feels, but overall pretty bland. At least the AF set is top fuckin tier.
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>>381303079
It looks much better on females
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>>381303073
It's not, you have plenty of things to do. Sure, if you want to sit in grit and massage your balls it's boring. If you want good mp generation you have to stance dance and use delirium effectively and make sure that you use BN and BS as much as possible too.
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>>381300684
I don't buy it at all, since they limit it to the NA data centers, yet all regions and all servers had these issues going on with connectivity throughout EA.

Just like I told others that Yoshi's JP pride would have him keep the servers running as shittily as possible without taking them down for some quick upkeep during EA just so he can spout to media and investors that the expansion had no major issues and was a great launch, despite holding everything together with duct tape.
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>>381303073
>blood weapon
>dark arts
>edgy fell cleave
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>gets delayed for two (2) days because of PLEASE UNDERSTAND
>gets spoiled to death before even finishing the Raubahn duty
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Is there a way to have different glamors for different jobs that use the same gear? I want my SCH to look one way while my WHM looks different.
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>>381302306

I like him but fuck do I wish this story had some definitive rules on what it takes to kill someone.

You see a sword pass right the fuck through Y'shtola with bloodspatter. Looks just as bad if not worse than Horsefont.

Get shot to the point of puking blood while a building comes down on you? a-ok!


Also I dont necessarily need full blown gore but if you get a limb chopped off there needs to be something more coming from that artery than a small momentary splatter on the floor. And if a sword passes through someone in a dramatic scene would it have killed them to not have the clothes and body look utterly pristine save for a red trickle on the chin?
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>>381303064
SCH aoe dps is complete garbage and bane might as well no even be on your bar. Single target is fine, don't listen to retards saying they had OP dps, they always did the lowest out of all the healers, it's just that most of their damage being dots mean they didn't lose as much for dropping cleric
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>>381303204
You could you know, just not go to these threads.
It's your own fault.
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>>381302306
YFW this actually sets up the next Hildebrand questlines.
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>>381303186
Except they didn't. Other regions only had issues with Raubahn on the first day and none of the other crashes and errors.
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>>381303204
Things looked grim for us after Carteneau, didn't they? :^)
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>>381303042
Just have fun, anon. End game is a ways off.
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Garlean playable race when?
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>>381303185
>stance dance
I would love to if everything in the late game dungeons didn't hit so fucking hard. I wish we had another defensive cooldown.
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>>381303160
its a special boss fate reward in Yanxia you also get wearable fox ears and a housing item

fun fact the ears also have physics
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>>381302637
>the 3 main factions fight over resources all the time and note the PVP frontlines is a canon area that the 3 factions are killing each other for
Excepts that's not true at all you're the one that needs to read, frontlines is an training exercise with precautions in place to prevent killings

>ala mhigans had traitors killing their own
Also explained in the story if you had bothered to read the optional dialogue, conrad explains most of the ala mhigans that turned were kids of officials and were raised as full citizens so they didn't really have a reason to be loyal to ala mhigo
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>>381302892
I just want it to be used somewhere so we can have an explanation as to how or why someone built a fucking space elevator-tall tower out of giant jenga blocks
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>>381303137
Possibly. The patches may focus on rebuilding Ala Mhigo in the same was Idyllshire was built up over the course of HW, and Revenant's Toll over the course of ARR. Might be what Yoshi was referring to when he said that Ala Mhigo would "take advantage of the genre".

I kind of like that Rhaglr's Reach appears so early so at least people coming into the expansion can see where all the people are hanging out instead of it being like Ishgard which is dead as fuck. Although I don't understand why its music is the Garlean national anthem.
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>>381303229
you only die if you get a light spear hurled in your stomach
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>>381303308
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>>381303279
The only issue I experienced on Lich (CHAOS datacenter) was with Raubahn on the first day. That's it.
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>>381303229
>I like him but fuck do I wish this story had some definitive rules on what it takes to kill someone.

For major, non-villain characters? Something involving Aether.

Moenbryda? Died by expending all of her Aether.
Minfillia? "Died" while jumping into the Lifestream. Which is a big endless flow of Aether.
Haurchefant? Died when he got impaled by a spear made of Aether.
Ysayle? Died when she expelled all of her Aether.
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>>381302920
I only got one ;_;
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>>381303375
I'm literally wearing what I'm showing but thanks for playing.
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>>381303307
Hey, healers need to step up. Their dps is shit anyway, them healing you more and you doing more dps is an overall dps gain. Anyway, DRK is crap before 70, just like many other classes, just hang on and it will get better.
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>>381301431
There are more variation in the dialogue options you are given this time around.
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>>381303436
We don't need to see your ugly character to get the jist of what you're saying, you just wanted to avatarfag.
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Excogitation would have been an amazing ability for 60 last expansion Yoshi you fucking hack, what the fuck. Dissipation shouldn't even be a fucking thing anymore especially since it's even more fucking punishing with SCH's MP problems and the fairy gauge being a thing now.
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>15 year old mmo patch beating new mmo expansion
what went so wrong bros?
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>>381303229
Think about it in storytelling terms:
Gosetsu paddled across the fucking sea in a rowboat. He's clearly more roegadyn than roegadyn. A couple of bullets and a building is not going to stop him.
Y'shtola is a fucking ultrahealer capable of warping spacetime.
Haurchefaunt was a simple knight going up against Ishgardian Space marines who were empowered by Papal Evil Eye Magic, and he managed to stop the projectile, if briefly.
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>>381303204
Feels bad.
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>>381303307
Seems they really wanted to force mt to be defensive more than ever. The question is if it will force dps players to be less shitty. The answer is no.
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>>381303308

What's the housing item?
I've got another 100 things to fill my house with and so far all I have is some kind of Chinese guitar and Alphinaud's creepy ass drawing.
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>Dungeon boss theme

i was really scared the music this expansion wasnt going to match HW considering the cutsence music was trash to Dragonsong, but damn
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>>381303271
>looking to see if every other data center is having the same problems
>"DUMBLEDORE DIES LMAO"
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>>381303405
>>381303229
Papalyimo? Died to the most anticlimatic attack.
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>>381303337
The Garleans co-opted the Ala Mhigan anthem.
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>>381303206
PS4 limitations please understand
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any links to a list of the 60-70 WHM skills? for some reason the xiv wiki i usually use does not have them and google has turned up nothing but a bunch of rumors pages
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>>381303481
Ok
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>>381303424
Well if you ordered before official launch it might be worth sending in a ticket, xiv customer support isn't nearly as generous as wow and other games but they do occasionally take pity, especially if you can prove you ordered before official launch
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>>381303510

Oh right. Papa died too.
By expelling most of his Aether and then getting blown the fuck up by a giant Aether explosion.
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>these new crafting/gathering skills

They really want players to be able to shit out HQ crafts huh
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>>381303567
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/
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>>381303405
Haurchefant got Dark Soul'd
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>>381303567
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>>381302648
one thing i need to know...
Dragons or Demons?
Seriously which do they hail from
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>>381303206
>>381303548
limitations aside, Yoshi said the team is aware folks want this and they'll look into it.

Take that with a grain of salt, but yeah that would be a great QoL addition
>>381303584
Now that's better. Keep that up.
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>>381303486
Excogitation is so stupid I just use it as a slightly stronger lustrate when the tank falls below 50%. Also 20% is worth taking on scholar is it, since their big heals are all abilities and not spells?
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>>381303305
Maybe on 5.0 since it's going to be the Garlemald expansion. The Garlean scientist's remarks about how they used to be an opressed people because of their lack of magic untill they went to a cold, northern nation and built themselves an empire is really interesting. I'm kinda excited for it.
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>>381303629
Duh. Or did you really enjoy heavenswards 48 step macros in order to do one craft that produces one item that takes 6 sub-items?
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>>381303305
It's a possibility for 5.0 if 5.0 takes place in Garlean proper.
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>>381303012
Oh I see my mistake. But I had assumed that most SMN players would switch over to RDM since they both fill the role of mobile caster, unlike BLM's stationary turret casting.
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>>381302930
Not enough Christmas lights for Allagan tech.
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>>381303206
It's not like getting two sets of gear would require you to do more grinding and stay subbed longer or anything.
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>>381303503
I don't have a house atm but its a placeable sleeping fox I think
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>>381303206

No, and it's a frequent complaint.
You can't even have two of the same damn item, assuming you wanted to work for it, outside of crafted gear to circumvent the problem.

I'd also kill for even just 3 hair presets so I can swap between short/medium/long hair depending on the job I'm playing.
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>>381300814
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/dd506077db314182ddc2dc15b1d033d72da5630c
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>>381303672
He's also "aware" people want ass sliders, but there's no ass sliders.
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>>381303715
Reminds me of 1.x crafting.
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i want more of those resonance shit
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>>381303721
>more Garlean/Empire/Ascian shit
please no
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>>381303665
I know the devs has said they aren't draconic, but fuck me, the whole Dawn Father (Bahamut wyvern of Dawn) and Dusk Mother (Tiamat wyvern of Dusk) just makes too much god damn sense.

Except for the whole Dawn Father and Dusk mother warring with one another... could be voidsent or perhaps they hail from a different World?
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So two days ago someone managed to spawn the Azim Steppe S rank on Mateus. Unfortunately we didn't have near enough people to take it down. We know it was an S rank because you could see it from across the map. No fucking clue on how to actually spawn it though.
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>>381303632
>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/whitemage/

so divine benison sucks dick and pretty much should never be used right? because I remember stoneskin not being all that useful and +5% more doesn't sound significantly better. and planery indulgence looks kind of useless because I almost never need to use cure/cure 2 on anyone else but the tank, so the heal won't even effect them. kinda lame.
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>>381303748
kinda difficult when healers share gear and it's all unique equipped ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>381303757
>placeable sleeping fox I think

...That is fucking adorable.
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how do i transfer my ownership of a house in The Goblet to Mist?

i looked on the patch notes but it didnt even mention it
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>>381303376
Same. Elemental, and after Raubahn the only problem has been login queues, which is less of an issue when the servers are stable.
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>>381303826
The big Wall? We've fought it like 6 times on Balmeme. I think we also managed to do Ixion tonight right as servers were going down.
You need a good 20 people at current gear levels to do the Wall, and they can't be getting hit by his massive aoe.
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>>381303887
transferring isn't available yet, i thought. not until we get Shirogane opened
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>>381303781
They already said it's too much trouble because of the way gear is display on models or something haven't they? having different ass sizes would make it harder for them, they're either lazy, incompetent, or both
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Someone tell me how they fucked WAR first hand. Always have been between pld and war so I have a soft spot for both.
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Why does the MQ and side quests especially give a shit amount of exp? I mean, doing sidequests is a fucking waste of time.
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>>381303865
Divine Benison is okay. Really only useful for tankbusters though. Plenary Indulgence is a joke though.
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>>381301523
Exactly 2 people do.
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>>381303939
Ixion spawns at the Lochs? Also, does anyone have any info on the other superfate with not-fenrir? Where does it spawn and what does it drop?
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>>381303715
The mats were the only real problem with HW crafting (the actual crafting process, not counting capped scrips and favors being a shitshow), thess new skills are pretty fuckin ridiculous. A 90 percent success rate Hasty for 5 CP? Careful Synth 3 that completely obsoletes Standard Touch? An on demand Precise Touch? That new skill
that just shits out 3 IQ stacks? Fuck me man double full Byregot's is pretty viable now
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>>381303940
hmm... so do you know if you'll be able to transfer to other zones that arent Shirogane?
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>>381303865
Benis is ok. Indulgence is shit. Thin air is so good it'll probably get nerfed in some way.
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>>381303958
just buy the jump potions goyim :)
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>>381303957
Okay so, you know, how like going into tank stance on a warrior was the worst thing on the planet, easily the worst penalty of all the tanks, essentially a 43% damage loss and no defensive gain whatsoever until healed.

Well, now imagine that, but even worse. Imagine losing half your stacks every time you wanted to swap. Imagine having no utility at all. Imagine having no identity at all. DRK mitigates magic damage. PLD is the ultimate wall. WAR used to be DPS guy, but then they took all of his DPS from him and made the penalty for stance changing even worse. It's like playing a clunkier version of yourself. Nothing makes any fucking sense.
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>>381303939
Ixion??? wtf how much FFX stuff is in this game? I'd list all of it but don't wanna spoil people.
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>>381303301
Okay
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where can I get decent level 60 crafting gear?
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>>381303508
>looking to see if every other data center is having the same problems
>On 4chan
Good going, champ.
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>>381301523
>Hes not dead.
>Gaius doesnt show up in DRK 70 quest
>Darnus shows up again in 2nd Coil
>Estihogg picks up his eyes but lack of Zenos body

I cant wait to see him in.[spoiler}The Moon[/spoiler]
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>>381304023
oh wait no it's one more than that.
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>>381304071
i don't know for sure, sorry, but i took it being an option that was available for every residential area. i could be wrong though, so don't want to get your hopes up.

Though, realistically, just by going from forum posts and in other places, folks are excited to move to Shirogane, so maybe plots will be available in the place you want.
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>>381304026
Ixion 100% spawns at the Lochs and you cannot even begin to damage him unless someone on the server has the item that drops form the new maps. It's like a very light version of true NM from FFXI
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>>381302493
Glam glams not ready yet. Need to get full 310 set first. Will probably use the PVP caster set though. It looks great
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>>381304026
>>381303308
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>>381303802
Where the fuck else is it going to take place?

All that's left is Garlean empire.

Also, this will be a new experience because it will be a more "modern" setting, like metropolitan areas. Could get a cool FF7 type areas. And of course we'll get a bunch of areas that look completely different than each other because that's how all FF14 expansions are.

Really though it's a pretty safe bet that 5.0 will take us to the capital city
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>>381304071

I'm more curious if we'll be able to transfer into a larger house from a smaller one.
Seems pointless to move if it's just...Moving from one house to an identically sized house.
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Anyone else notice Lyse constantly seducing the WoL or how she didn't bat an eye when Tataru replaced her shirt with a jogging bra and a rarely fastened jacket?
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>>381304159
pay out the ass in scripts for each class's specific crafting gear, then spend more upgrading it for each class.
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>>381303454
I am at lvl 70, maybe I just need a full set of 310 gear, but I'm not brave enough to stance dance yet, everything hits hard and I don't know how large of a pull I can handle since they nerfed the fuck out of blood price for whatever reason.
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>>381304231
>Where the fuck else is it going to take place?

Thavnair
Sharlayan Homeland
New World
Merycidia
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>>381303031
I'm just glad none of the Katanas I've seen so far have retardedly outlandish designs.
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>>381304124
This is too accurate.
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>>381303948
Yes, anon. The only reason why there is any deficiency in any game ever is because of laziness and incompetence. There is no such thing as constraints.

The only reason we do not have real life teleportation, invisibility and personal jetpacks is because scientists are incompetent lazy fucks.
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>>381304241
tataru being a slut is canon
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why do people complain that job X or Y is bad?

are people literally, LITERALLY loyal to jobs?
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>>381304143
Yojimbo is the boss of Kugame Castle dungeon and it's a really fucking great fight.
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>>381303131
a world without parses. imagine. how much longer before certain jobs become undesirables in the job caste system?
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>>381304241
she's belongs to garleans for breeding
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>>381304231
>ff7
it will be ff12 empire
and I'm totally okay with that, as long as we get the imperial officer class
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>>381304231

It could be cool but most of the garlean buildings we've walked through thusfar haven't looked that interesting desu
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>>381303774
Man if it did turn out to be Blizzshills that would be some pretty big corporate espionage shit, doubful tho
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>>381303865

Not that I've gotten to end-game yet, but from what I've seen Divine Benis is lackluster because the system it relies on sucks.

1) Need lilies, which you can only get from cure I or II on damaged targets
2) Uses all lilies, so fuck you for trying to hoard keep healing you little healslut
3) Using only one lily for it is optimal, since more Assize/Tetragrammatrons are better (fuck Asylum why does it even use lilies fuck you YoshiP)
3) Puts up a barrier but your co-healer should do the same thing more reliably and with less consequence for doing so (assuming you have AST/SCH)

I mean the lily system in general is an attempt to fix WHM's inactivity, I think. Always do SOMETHING: push buttons to get prizes, use prizes to push big fun buttons more often. But they fucked it up by only giving procs from your Cure I and II, and the only thing you get to do with lilies is... heal more. WOW so amazing. It'd feel better to use if procs were granted from Stone casts (still doing stuff), and the lilies could also be dumped into a DPS or GOOD utility skill. I'm not smart enough to think of things in the current kit to make that second part work, though.
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>>381304124
You held top spot for too long so now you're in the toilet for a while. Have fun.
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>>381304294
>Thavnair
>Sharlayan Homeland
>New World
>Merycidia
Are any of these on the map we've seen so far?
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>>381304241
>Always looking at you when other people are talking to her
Cute!
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>>381304241
She wants that shaft of light but too bad WoL is forever canon virgin
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>>381304307
So the exact opposite of all the rapiers, then?

Seriously, it's a one-handed sword. The handles do not have to be that fucking long.
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>>381304325
2 or 3 days, then it's goodbye mnk, goodbye drg, goodbye whm, goodbye smn, goodbye war, goodbye blm
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>>381304313
No need to be so passive aggressive there Yoshi P
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>>381304307
the only one I think looks legit bad is Kinna but luckily you never have to use or need to use kinna ever again.
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>>381303724
If SAM wasn't a thing, I would seriously consider SMN + BLM as being strong as fuck because of Contagion.
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>>381301450
It still has scrips and they still suck dick, but they suck less dick than they did before.

- blue scrips are gone, but if you had any left over you can now trade them 1:1 for reds
- you still buy the HW folklore books to unlock more gathering nodes with blue tokens, but the books are only 50 instead of 99 now, and you can trade red tokens for four blues each; this is assuming you didn't already buy them all a couple years ago
- red scrips are uncapped
- they're adding yellow scrips in two weeks as the new high type, but they'll also be uncapped
- red scrip gathering today is far less of a chore due to it being far easier to get collectibles(even in bullshit equipment like me) and them being worth more scrips in general(you'll note the old HW ones still give about jack shit for scrips)
- all HW and SB timed nodes are(or were changed) to have a two game-hour window instead of one, and all spawn twice per game day(some HW nodes had their spawn time changed)
- new collectibles and crafting leves are worth a shitload of exp
- gathering and crafting got a bunch of highly useful new abilities and traits this time around, unlike the useless shit sandwiches they handed out during HW
- even specialist got shit that's legit(all the old specialist actions are still worthless)

So far, so good. The possible hangup is they might go full-fucking-retard again once yellow scrips are on the scene, and god knows with SE it's always one step forward and two back, but here's hoping they're just an extension of the situation now without any added bullshit overhead.
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>>381304316
>like playing [job]
>[job] gets nerfed or continues to be bad
>

how is this a difficult concept to understand?
>just play a different job lmao
maybe they got/get the most enjoyment out of playing that job
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>>381302648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IohqAwV4Mjw
I fucking loved getting into the dungeon, the Calm Lands is definitely the best fucking area.

When can I do a questline to get lonely Magnai a date?
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Sephiroth beats the WoL like he was just a fly at first, the WoL could not even scratch him. Later on WoL put up a little fight but then get BTFO when Sephiroth went "Psssh guess you've earned to see my true potential". And then when he fuses and gains 1000x power the WoL is somehow able to beat him
Say what you want about powerlevels and such but this writing was just such bullshit it was unbelievable.
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>>381304371
Thavnair and iirc Sharlayan homeland
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>>381303042
Depend, are willing to put your time in raiding and extreme contents?
MCH isn't even the lowest.
Worst of all, dont even bother with /v/ propaganda and cuck shitposting. Just fucking enjoy the game because people hardly give a shit. You can't even enjoy if you play with a hive mind mentality.
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>>381304231
>And of course we'll get a bunch of areas that look completely different than each other because that's how all FF14 expansions are.

Almost every zone this expansion looks exactly the same. I'd say 4 of the 6 look the same. Ruby sea is kind of unique but its just a big zone thats more annoying that anything and Steppes is the only really unique one and even then its still just grass field with rocks.

Aside from Kugane the zones feel especially lazy this time around.
>>381304294
And who would the villian be? We just defeated the strongest person out there aside from the emperor himself. It'd be an insult to have us go deal with some small city problems that the factions and armies could deal with.
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>>381304235
its not really pointless if you wanna change aesthetics which is basically what personal housing is
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>>381304437
do not try to understand power levels in this game, all that matter is taht the WoL end up being stronger at the end
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quick what class do i roll
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>381304437
There were 8 of yous though.
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>>381304231
A massive Voidsent invasion.
Have to go to there dimension for the most of it.
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>>381304324
yeah that was one of the things I wanted to avoid spoiling lol.
I loved the fight, but all these FFX references everywhere makes me wonder... Blitzball???
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>>381304535
sam if i got 5
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>>381304412
I still can't believe they kept the cross-class system for crafters after going to so much trouble to remove it for battle jobs. They could have single-handedly fixed almost every problem with crafting with just that one change but instead opted to add even more pointless button bloat..
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>>381304241
>femWoL
>all girl party
>that hug
It's a s/u/barashii kind of feel.
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>>381304287
You have to turn off grit at least for delirium+blood weapon. Also, use abyssal drain.
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>>381304462
>It'd be an insult to have us go deal with some small city problems that the factions and armies could deal with.
We just spent an expansion picking up dung after ending a millennia long war.
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>doma castle theme
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>>381304415
i agree if its DPS but tanks and healers are the exact
same
fucking
shit
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>>381304371
Yes. In the cloud covered white space in the middle. Below Garlemald.
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>>381304379
After some of the shit I've seen ingame and in XIV threads I can't help but doubt that all WoL's are virgins.
>>381304462
Pull something out of your ass. We had a pissed off lizard and the pope as previous antagonists. Fuck you could even steal oblivions plotline and no one would care.
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>>381304462
>We just defeated the strongest person out there aside from the emperor himself

Bitch you didn't even know this guy existed until you were told about him by YoshiP. The villains will be as strong as they need to be.
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>>381304540
Speaking of returning by popular demand...
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>>381304540
Dragonsong diving with him was cool as fuck. Just about the only time I've ever seen the WoL do anything in a cinematic.
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>>381302637
Xaela are anything but peaceful and they do routinely slaughter eachother for shits and giggles. I would hate to live in that place, it's like Mongolia, low in resources, high in homicidal horse fuckers. I don't like the idea of being carted off to be part of someone's harem because I was out for a walk one day.
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>>381304462
The villain is other Imperial factions and the mad scientists they've got working for them. Garlemald has a surplus of mad science/engineering going on it seems, so it would make sense to see more in the vein of Zenos appear.

It would be nice if we could make peace with the Emperor and work with the main faction in Garlemald to stabilize them and make a deal that they actually work with other nations to deal with eikons instead of just trying to genocide everything for safety.

The current emperor seems kind of hesitant to keep on the offensive, not letting Zenos immediately try to take back the wall and all.
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>>381304379
Pffft, I make my own canon. When Lyse and I were searching for info on roegadyn samurai and auri shinobi, we snuck away to the inn and hot springs for snuggles and nooky.
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>>381304612
>Stormblood General dungeon boss theme
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>>381304206
>you cannot even begin to damage him unless someone on the server has the item that drops form the new maps
That's pretty cool.
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>>381304364
Benis is ok if you just used assize and tetra, but really it shouldn't require a lily at all.
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>>381304617
Tanks play completely fucking different are you retarded.

unless you're just being a dipshit and assume that because they all hold threat and use defensive cooldowns they're exactly the same

3.x PLD was completely different to 3.x DRK
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>>381304540
>Estinien shows up
>Heavensward motif starts playing

I love dragoons and the music in Heavensward so much.
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>>381304718
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can someone explain to me how the lvl 70 ninja skill works?
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>>381304294
All of those places would be complete asspulls. The only one of those that has any real setup is Thavnair, but it's too small to be an entire expansion by itself.

Heavensward was set up with the mysterious isolationist country with the big looming gate and a lot of quests with the player, Stormblood was set up with the Shinobi showing up way back before heavensward even launched and the Ala Mhigan liberation stuff that's been hinted at since ARR.

Thavnair homeland has barely been referenced at all, and the other three are pretty much nothing but flavour text on some item descriptions.

What I'm getting at here is yeah, there are places other than the empire on the planet, but none of them are actually set up in any to be an expansion. All of those places if the expansion was said to happen there people would react with "what? what the fuck is that place?"

Meanwhile an invasion of the empire has been firmly set up with the Stormblood expansion. It's inevitable.

Although, I would not be suprised if Thavnair was a small side zone thing
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>>381304725
i think after 3.4 they noticed dungeons should have good music too
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>>381304369
>job being ruined is a punishment for it being good in the past
Fucking
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>>381304714
>>381304558

My theory would be we fight with garlemald in 5.0
Come to some sort of understanding through 5.4
5.5 is oh shit the ascians are pissed about us making peace and opened voidsent portal to fuck the entire world
then 6.0 is about us and the gareleans working together to deal with the voidsent
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>>381304462
Each zone was more or less taken from a distinct unique aesthetic from Asian countries.

Steppes was Mongolia, Ruby Sea touched on the Pacific Islands/Philippines, etc. We got the strong Japan and Chinese flavors from Kugane and Yuxia.
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>>381304718
Cringe.
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>>381301148
bestboi
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>>381304725
The stormblood leitmotif is overused. It doesn't feel special at all as the final boss for dungeons because it's also the Kugane theme, the othard town theme, and the regular battle theme. You hear it constantly.
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>>381304617

Excellent bait, friend.

All three healing classes play very differently from 50 and up. WHM is brain-dead easy, SCH requires forethought and shines best when the player knows the fight's mechanics and timing inside-out, and AST is God of Healing, Buffs, and Utility fuck the other two.
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>>381304371
>Are any of these on the map we've seen so far?

Well, since I'm a faggot that spent 200 dollars and have the map right next to me.

Thavnaria is an island nation right below the Empire's reach smack dab in the middle of the map. They can probably squeeze two zones and a main city out of it.
To the northwest of Eorzea there's an island chain that could easily be another zone, maybe two if they milked it.

We haven't actually touched most of Othard yet. And then there's the giant ass moon crater desert with the big ass worm that we can see from the bottom of the Azim Plains but not enter.
Northwest of Othard is also a mountain region that can easily be a zone.

And the majority of the center of the map is just obscured by clouds, but clearly has a few floating islands of it's own, and most of the clouded part is clearly covering some massive landmass that's definitely larger than Othard and Eorzea combined.

There's also nothing stopping them from pulling a "That was only the Eurasia equivalent of the world map." and pull an Africa/Australia/North and South America out of their buttholes if need be.
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>>381304782
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>>381304462
interesting, I felt like the HW zones were lazy and looking extremely similar. while these zones being colourful and fun.
Each to their own I guess?
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>>381303491
>Lsye will never make your face this blissfully happy
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>>381304657
Hating this smarmy motherfucker is one of my favorite pastimes. I hope he never gets killed and continues to be a prick bastard forever.
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>>381304812
>All of those places would be complete asspulls
Just like Kugane.
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>>381304540
I want his hair style.
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>>381304657
Nero is too good for this story.
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Zenos just randomly combined with Shinryu and this was all explained by "possible with the power of Echo"
So what the hell is the echo power even suppose to do? Right now it seems like it's just like the "speedforce" and allows the user to do whatever the writer wants.
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>>381304714
The current emperor didn't want him to take back the wall because he has all his best scientists working on a world ending machine that will eat the whole universe and return it to nothing, so he doesn't care about holding on to some wall or Doma or Ala Mhigo.

This is final fantasy, after all. It's not final fantasy unless the final villain is some nutjob who wants to destroy the universe because muh nihilism
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Question about Lakshmi, I'm not there yet, waiting for friend to get caught up but he's busy with work.

But I was listening to that awesome theme song of hers and saw her primal fight, just curious :

do we ever see her snake body? Is it in the EX fight?
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I hope the next expansion is in a cooler place.
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>>381300684
>WoW Clone siphons users off WoW
And nothing of value was lost, you're still a honeypot for shitstain MMO players.
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>poopclik through Great Wall of Pipin at 4AM on release night
>enjoy storyline untainted by filthy plebbitors posting spoilers in between avatarfaggotry

who else /fucking invincible/?
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>>381305023
Anon go back and read it again and watch everything again. Zenos doesn't have the echo. He is a Resonant.
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>>381304390
>goodbye blm
where is this meme still here?

also DRG and WHM are still great, the only true cucked classes right now area SCH/SMN/MNK/WAR.
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>>381304912

The alamhigo zones are kinda weak. Looks like a lot of recycled Thanalan and samey rocks.
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>>381305005
Kugane was just a transitional zone to transport the player to Doma, which was firmly established before hand.
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>>381304969
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>>381304558
Zodiark is finally sumobed tearingva massive rift between the world and the Void.
Expansion to deal with the massivevinflux of Voidsent (including Exdeath and a demonic clownlike being called Kefka)
A Voidsent Primal known as Griever is on the loose too.

At the end though it turns out that balance is key. Zodiark, impressed with your ability to weild the Light lends you his Dark powers to become a fully whole Warrior. To you you pointband laugh at the Ascians.
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>>381304812
there is no way the alliance even with Ishgard and Doma could hold the empire so its probly going to be some weird alliance with a would be Emperor

then again the WoL could just fuck the whole empire and leave it in chaos because muh bad guys
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>>381305093
DRG is very bad. WHM is very bad. BLM doesn't do enough DPS to be brought to anything over someone who can do similar DPS but also increase raid DPS. DRG's rotation is fucked and it's utility is cucked out of existence by SCH and the disembowel nerf.
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>>381305034
We already had that shit with Xande
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>tank gauge now punishes you for switching stances
Why even bother having a second stance then? So I could scream in anguish every time I switch, just to see half of my big dick bar disappear?
Why did they put +20 gauge on Storm's Path and not Butcher's Block? Why? SP combo has the weakest potency of them all and gives you almost no health back. Why did they take away my bread and butter combo in favour of this shit? Why can't I build gauge by popping berserk and useless shit like raw intuition?
Why, SE?
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>>381304812
I mean, Sharlayan has as much shit going on for it as Ishgard or Ala Mhigo did. The whole Circle of Knowing is comprised of Archons, Louisoix's son/twins' dad was the governor of Idyllshire and ordered their exodus. And if Interdimensional Rift doesn't deal with it, the Isle of Val got exploded in 2.1 or something.

As for some event needing us to go there specifically, just the Isle of Val thing, or if the Empire randomly decides to boat their way there. We got 5 patches to set that up.

>>381305034
I mean, we've met the guy, he didn't seem all that unreasonable.
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>>381305101
True but for the sake of argument you could say they really couldn't take too far a departure from what we were given because the zone was already in our backyard and we knew what to expect. The Doma questline zones were across the sea so they had more liberty to go crazy.

It's just a shame the story had to end in 2 very similar and bland zones though.
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Just woke up to farm suzie and now I'm greeted with 4 hours maintenance. What a sad day to be a neet

>>381305035
Nope
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>FFXIV takes us to Doma/Othard
>GW2 refuses to take fans to Cantha due to upsetting Chinese community
>FFXIV has Chinese version

the fuck, Anet, let me go to my homeland.
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>>381304964
Eorzea is Africa. Ilsabard is Europe. Othard is Asia.

There is a North and South America, it's only called the New World in-game. Meracydia is Australia.
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>tfw maintenance right as the story started to get good
Should I just stay up and wait for it to end or sleep /v/?
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>>381300684
nigga what
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Why does DRG get such heavy protective gear? Wouldn't it make sense they share gear with like MNK/SAM? What about their playstyle necessitates needing that large of an armor bonus. I'm guessing it's because of the aesthetics of the class that they'd look weird wearing cloth and leather
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>>381304973
HW zones were much better to me with a ton of variety.
We had flying space castle that was like nothing we've ever had
Floating sky islands
A snow zone that sucked and was completely forgettable but at least it was different
A shitty forest zone but had a dragon tower which was kind of cool
Already there thats more variety in my mind, I'm surprised we haven't had more unique zones like mor dohnas where its a corrupted land with magic and aether everywhere.
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>>381305134
>which was firmly established before hand.
Appeared out of nowhere in 2.2, barely talked about in a long time besides the "Yugiri exists!" reminders

Nothing stops them pulling this crap again during SB endgame patches
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>>381305225
>Why even bother having a second stance then?
To differentiate between off tank and main tank. Stance dancing has never been intended gameplay.
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>>381304390
>>381305093
Seriously, BLM just fucking shits out F4s single target and T4/Foul in AoE and has semi-unique utility in Manashift with how they work. BLM is doing a bit less per hit than in HW but they don't have to shift to Ice nearly as often as before.
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>>381305267
>nope

THE FUCK, YOSHI, THEN WHY THIS ILLUSTRATION
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>>381305225
because fuck you stop dpsing and tank, i think
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>>381305195
>WHM is very bad.

Can you explain why? They didn't lose any potency and their mana problems are basically gone. The worst you can say is that most of their new traits/mechanics are fairly useless. They also have the best DPS. Nothing that came with SB actively hindered them in any real way.
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>>381304767
>MT
>threat/damage combo
>keeps a DoT
>keeps enfeeblements up
>damage cooldowns
>tank busters

>OT
>keeps a DoT
>damage cooldowns
>damage combo

>tank swap eventually

every single tank plays like this

>inb4 "youre oversimplifying it"

the only two DPS you could simplify on HW like this were NIN and DRG, and even then you'd miss something unique for each of these two jobs
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>>381305301
>why does a Dragoon need that large of an armor bonus
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>>381305225
It's fucking heinous that Vengeance and Raw Intuition don't grant meter. Changing those two alone would make everything not so fucking awful right now. Quad Cleave is good. Upheaval is good. Charge is shit, shouldn't cost meter. Not having a fucking STUN is hellish.
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How do you feel about refugees?
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>>381305275
cant hurt the fee fees of the japs and culturally appropriate them, that wouldnt be very nuanet like
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>>381305359
RISE
HIGH
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>>381305290
>scaleys literally giving people bottles of horse cum
They should be purged.
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>>381305374
>They also have the best DPS.
They have the best *personal* DPS. What they can output while healing doesn't stack up for shit compared to AST's DPS + Cards. It's debatable if the Scholar's Chain Strategem is worthwhile, I've heard some grumbling that might indicate people want AST/WHM rather than AST/SCH, but the main problem is simply that AST is too fucking good in 8man.
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>>381305421
>that joke about not japan's police cutting down people like telejejeji was
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>>381305275
Fuck this eastern crap, when MMOs pulls this is exactly when they go to shit.

Based FFXI never did it, which is why it's still the best MMO in the market.
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>>381305374
Their only bad aspects are their new abilities/mechanics being weak or useless. Even with that they're still a really solid job right now

>>381305401
I have LNC at like 12 you're gonna have to explain the joke to me
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Anybody think we'll go to the moon in a later exp?

>ride lunar whale from ff4
>viera race
>ascian space battles
>raids with zero-g gimmicks
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>>381304657
>those sunglasses he came with
I actually expected him to go "I came here to laugh at you"
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>tfw PLD
>tfw He-Man power Requiscat
>tfw fell cleaving with holys
>tfw dropping dudes across the map in PVP with it

feels good man
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>>381305532
DRGs die a lot to AoE because their jumps have an animation lock
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>>381305301
Fun fact: Dragoon gear used to have the lowest magic resistance out of all the gear types, to the point where certain boss AoEs would one-shot you while everybody else would survive despite having a slightly higher HP pool then the other DPS classes.
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>>381305286
Just take a nap, or go to bed if it's really that late. Then you can do stuff fresh and attentively tmr.
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>>381305535
>viera race
Fuck off
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>>381305518
MoP was so much better than Cataclysm though and actually a decent WoW expansion.
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>>381305518

?
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>>381305432
it's fucking annoying, i stayed in that game for my friends, but even HoT did little for me missing Cantha/Elona.
>>381305518
Fuck off, cunt. Factions was god damn amazing.
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>>381305535

Viera is still up in the air, even if they considered it before. We'll know if they add them if we get an important Viera waifu npc as part of Return to Ivalice.
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>>381305384
>Paladin OT
>Keeps a DOT
>Damage rotation/using MP to spot heal as necessary
>use Shelltron for more damage on raidwides but make sure to keep spare meter for Intervention+defensive CD for MT tankbusters
>Cover instead of tankswap
>Divine Veil to help healers and allow them more DPS time

I can't speak to the other two, but yeah you're oversimplifying it.

If your healers really suck you might out heal them.
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>>381305350
Fuck you it was. I could actually contribute to team DPS on Bismarck and Ravana by putting 3 fell cleaves during boss' downtime. Now I am forced to constantly monitor my gauge.
It doesn't remove the fact that +20 meter was put on the worst possible combo for no reason, nor does it explain why can't I build meter with certain non-GCD skills.
>>381305370
That's cool and all, but if I just tank then this turns into PLD snoozefest. With 3.x system, I could always have a panic button by popping some abilities in favor of getting stacks. But gee whiz SE, thank you for upheaval, that's a really useful skill for a tank, the only party member who is usually not FULL FUCKING HP to maximize the potency of this skill.
>>381305410
Onslaught should at BEST be worth 10 meter, and why would I need it anyway when I can just throw my axe?
THEY EVEN REMOVED DAMAGE FROM MY ONLY STUN ABILITY!
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>>381305495
I mean obviously AST is top dog, so we're obviously talking about 2nd place. No one on earth is saying WHM is better than AST because AST can match them on healing while bringing the fat utility of Balance.

That being said, yes WHM has the best personal dps, but it matters, and their healing is just as strong as ever.

SCH is just in the dust because their potency took hits because SE is thickheaded about Aetherflow and fairies, plus they're the only one out of the 3 with mana issues which is just ridiculous.
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>>381304973
HW zones had distinct structures and colour palettes to them imo, making them very unique and separate from one another. Only the Othard zones are up to the same standard as far as I'm concerned. The Ala Mhigo zones are so homogenous and boring. I had my hopes up when I first stepped out and saw the red & green trees, before everything turned to cliffs and deserts.
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>>381302493

I love this outfit so much
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>>381305518
>he didn't like Pandaria
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>>381305195
>it's utility is cucked out of existence by SCH
How?
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>>381305605
>hating on anything and everything ivalice
Eat shit basic bitch.
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Lalas that don't use at least 20 emotes per minute should be disciplined!
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>>381305697
counterpoint: Fuck Warriors
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>>381305731
>tfw Pandaria will never have Hozen/Jinyu playable leaving Pandaren as just NPCs to avoid the degenerates who picked them and distance itself from the "kung fu panda" shitflinging

Good expansion that didn't deserve its fate.
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>>381305410
Your defensive skills don't grant meter so that you actually use them on defense instead of blowing them for muh dps.

Charge is meant to be situational, it's useful to get you to your target quicker, not to spam on cooldown but WARs have already been babied with the mindset of "all my skills need to boost DPS or they are useless" so they don't even think about shit like that.

If you want a stun take Low Blow like the other tanks.
>But muh Shield Bash
On the GCD making it almost worthless for actually stunning shit.

Notice how the jobs that were the most overpowered are the ones crying the most about their changes? Absolutely nothing but whiny, shitty babies who can't handle any kind of nerf even if it's deserved. The jobs are still pretty much balanced and come down almost entirely to personal preference but autists just can't let it be.
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>>381305195
>DRG is bad
Nigga you dumb.
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>>381305518
>Based FFXI never did it
Reisenjima begs to differ.
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WTF I WANT TO PLAY
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>>381305773
Spank me!
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>>381305720
>I had my hopes up when I first stepped out and saw the red & green trees,
The East End is absolutely beautiful. I don't mind the rest so far, but I really enjoyed the foresty parts. Some of my favorite zones are still in Gridania.
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>>381302493
I'm using the ugly gypsy suit now since I switched to AST, gotta glamour it.
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Last boss was harder than both of the Ex primals. Shame.
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>>381305782
It used to be the only option for enjoying a tank job. That, or going 1-2-3 on your keyboard, because not a single competent person plays as DRK.
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>>381305773
If you use more than 20 emotes in a day you should be killed.
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>>381305621
>endless daily grinding
>be happy or evil spirits will kill you XD
>fucking LFR since the beginning
>four raiding difficulties because grinding the same shit over and over is fun
>no new dungeons after the first batch
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>>381305605

They were already considered once and were only beaten out by Au Ra because scaled humans fit the dragon expansion thematically better than rabbit humans.
You're crazy if you think they won't happen eventually, especially with how large the fan demand is.
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>>381305801
Hozen were unironically the best thing about MoP. Some comedy fucking gold with their quests.
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>>381305652
They also considered Lupin for Stormblood as the new playable race, but decided against.

Makes me think that's the reason their storyline was just a blip towards the end, that maybe they'll bring them in later on with more lore.
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>>381305731
i wish XIVs monk was half as good as WoWs monk
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>>381305706
So where we're at is that SCH could use a buff to mp management, WHM could use some sort of DPS utility, and AST needs to be fucking nerfed, or the other two significantly buffed to actually bring some sort of min-max equilibrium.

Because right now it's just looking like HW tanks. You bring an AST because of fucking course you do, then WHM and SCH get to squabble over second best and one of them will be favored by content design, leaving the other one to be deemed 'worst' and rot.
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>>381305225
To be fair it is possible to gain 10 extra job gauge by switching up combos so you can change to Deliverance with Inner Release without losing any real meter that you'd utilize. People need to figure out the combo rotation yet though.
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Can you get those rice farmer hats people in kugane are wearing?
I don't see them on the market board so is it an MSQ or dungeon thing?
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>>381305697
>WARs spend all of HW shitting on the other tank players
>MUH FELL CLEAVE CRITS
>MUH MITIGATION
>seeing the meltdowns as the nerfs put them in their placs

You faggots deserve everything you got, eat shit.
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>>381305697
>It doesn't remove the fact that +20 meter was put on the worst possible combo for no reason
The reason is so that combo is useful.
>nor does it explain why can't I build meter with certain non-GCD skills.
Balance

All I'm hearing is BAAAAWWWWWW NOT ALL MY ABILITES ARE JUST STRAIGHT MORE DPS NOW I NEEEEEEED DPS WHERES MUH DPS BAAWWWWWW

Pic related, it's all WARs and SCHs right now.
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>>381305886
>tfw you'll never ook those grickets as a Hozen Warlock

>>381305896
I wish FFXIV had Disc Priest and Brewmaster monk. Legion Versions
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>>381305518
>FFXI never did it
Uh-huh.
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>>381305350
>Stance dancing has never been intended gameplay.
Not for MNK.

Now with new tackles.
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>>381305856
The last boss was meant to feel like an accomplishment. EX-primals are midcore fodder for droolers. Wait for Shinryu Ubersavage in 4.1
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>>381305858
>Warriors trying to claim that any other tank has ever been less competent than them
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>>381305638
>Turkey is now the Far East
You posted the wrong expansion
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>>381304962
im a healer main buddy

>you keep DoTs up and spam your filler for DPS
>you use shields and mitigation before tank busters and on raid damage if undergeared
>MP regen on CD post 80%
>sustain on tank

the only special snowflake is Draw. every other action is the exact same and has a counterpart in every healer
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>>381305697
WARbabs are hilarious
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>>381305823
>>381305957
In his defense, FFXI was already destroyed and raped by Abyssea by that point, so it's impossible to separate & quantify whether Adoulin would have ruined FFXI. It was already ruined.
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Revamp was a mistake.
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>>381305350
You say that, but given the changes to DRK I'd say that stance dancing is in fact being enforced if not heavily incentivized.
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pm me when servers come back up ty xxx
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>>381302523
I started playing the Conan theme for that fight when I saw that this was a dialogue option. It was xenial.
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>tfw humming the Garlemald hymn while driving
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>>381305801
The Thunder Isle patch is still my favorite patch in the history of WoW. I had shit to do for god knows how long, it had one of the all time greatest raid tiers, and the Warlock questline was fantastic. It was really the last time I was truly impressed with WoW. That alone makes MoP good to me.
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Well it looks like my computer will be sweating a lot, I plan on playing this all day every day

I fucking hate summer.
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>>381304567
I'm guessing they were aiming for that whole spiel about everything keeping the same number of actions, but in a more roundabout way. The new abilities are learned by all the classes, and most of them are direct replacements for older abilities(including a lot of cross-class ones).
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>>381306078
sent ;)
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>>381305963
was this skill designed to make your tank hate you?
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>>381306064
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>>381305951
>WW monk keeps getting nerfed while Brewmaster is apparently second only to druids

i should have learned to tank, maybe i'd have stayed with legion longer. but legionfall was a fucking insult
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There are *definitely* different voices responses depending on what you choose in the different dialogue options. There's a ton of variable shit around in the files like that
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>>381305905
If they reverted SCH back to pre-patch state I don't think anyone would complain. Maybe keep the potency nerf on Embrace to quell the people whining about fairies.

What would be nice is redoing Selene and giving her a better damage buff. WHM getting something would be nice but something makes me think SE's design philosophy would dictate that not so, as they like to keep WHM the "pure" healer.

Balance going to 10 or 15% I think is honestly warranted.
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>>381306095
They are not direct replacements. Stuff like Hasty Touch II and Careful Synthesis III may look like direct upgrades until you notice they have a CP cost.
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>>381306063
>In his defense, FFXI was already destroyed and raped by Abyssea by that point
But he said FFXI was still Based. So clearly he just forgot, or is an idiot.
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>>381306107
>not SAM
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>>381302493
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>>381306150
5 CP on Hasty II is pretty much a direct upgrade, that's less than a Comfort Zone tick.
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>>381306087
>he thinks this is hot
Fuck you, you don't know what heat is.
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>>381306107
>solo fate
>earth
>forget about knockback
>have to run and reset aggro
Apparently tackles are the signature MNK skill or something. Can't be worse than healer pull. I think it was WHM.
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>>381306134
I had fun with Legion until its massive RNG set in and I had no friends to play with. Also never getting any legendaries/titanforges

However Discipline Priest is the most fun healer I've ever played and Brewmaster the most fun tank. Shadow Priest with Voidform was also way more fun than it had any right being.

>Surrender to Madness pre nerfs
>Haste reaching critical levels where your insanity is jumping up and down constantly as you mash your keys doing insane DPS until you literally die.
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>>381306207
WHEN DO I GET MY FUCKING MANTA RAY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>381306207
>>>/vg/
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>>381306242
>105/66
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>>381306138
Balance should be changed to 10% Direct Hit instead of 20% damage. Pure damage buffs are cancer and always preferable to anything else. AST's healing is already in the fucking stratosphere, they don't need to have mandatory buffs on top of that.
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>>381306265
Beast tribe quests, please look forward to it
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>>381305746
Don't get me wrong, I think that an Ivalice MMO would be much better than FFXI-2.

But we don't need Viera to make player races be 50% animals.

>>381305883
200 retards spamming the OF and live letters with this crap doesn't means that the playerbase at whole wants them.
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>>381306152
That's because Rhapsodies and post-Rhapsodies patches fixed the mess

https://youtu.be/kTqzA-9nrZY
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>>381306265
>He didn't find the unmarked quest
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>>381301740
>I suspect some of your dialogue choices lead to different voiced responses, but I haven't tested this yet

There are *definitely* different voices responses depending on what you choose in the different dialogue options. There's a ton of variable shit around in the files like that
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>>381306138
I feel like if Confessions could be generated via any heals and Plenary had a lower cooldown, WHM would be totally fine where it is, even compared to AST. It would be amazing to mostly be spending my GCDs DPSing and throwing oGCDs to heal, while still maintaining the ability to GCD Heal Bomb as necessary.
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>>381306242
You are like little baby
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>>381306293
Probably lives in a desert area where the nights are considerably cooler. I know because I also live in a desert.
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>>381306293
66 is the low in that number.

41C high, 19C low in Europleb units
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>>381306068
Only on DRK, which since its inception has been the tank least penalized by stance management. PLD loses their gauge as well, but their gauge is also only used on defensive abilities.
The old ways are gone boys. Once you start out a fight, you're probably going to be staying in that stance until you deplete your gauge and call for a swap, which means the healers are in turn going to have to spend more globals healing you through your vulnerable phases which in turn is going to take globals for DPS away from them thus achieving Yoshi-P's ultimate goal in lowering healer and tank DPS contribution and putting DPS requirements firmly in the driver's seat of the DPS players.

You might not like that kind of game, as it is a very different game from the one we've been playing for the past 3 years, but that is where we are headed. Everything in stormblood hits much harder than everything in heavensward did at the start. There is less groupwide mitigation available than ever in the history of the game. I don't doubt that truly exceptional players are going to be excelling, putting out respectable DPS numbers and still maintaining high survivability, but healer DPS is shaping up to be 25% of a DPS's DPS combined at this point.
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>>381306265
Its kinda cute IMO

>>381306271
What'd I do differently from everyone else that warranted that? Or do you always bully cats?
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>>381306225
For only 10% more success rate? Maybe if you could get 100% success chance that might be true. Shit like Byregot's Blessing and Steady Hand II are also still mandatory and have no replacement.
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>>381306313
Is that at level 70?

>>381306321
I DID EVERY QUEST IN RUBY SEA THERE HAS LITERALLY NEVER BEEN AN UNMARKED QUEST IN THIS FUCKING GAME YOU FAGGOT
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>>381306242
>farenheit
Can you use real numbers
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We need a Christian/Judeo primal for 5.0
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>>381306314
>200 retards spamming the OF and live letters with this crap doesn't means that the playerbase at whole wants them.

No. There is no one thing that the playerbase wants "At whole".
But it's still a sizeable chunk, and you're out of your mind if you think otherwise.
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>>381306395
The beast tribe quests won't be until the patches.
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>>381306293
They probably live in a desert.
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>>381306378
These threads are not for avatarfagging, some folks are either sharing screenshots with their characters cropped out or of things in-game/story scenes.

It's just best not to go down that route, but then again the thread is close to auto-saging soon, but just a heads up for next one
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>>381306401
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=105f+to+c
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>>381303186

lolno

"JP pride" is one thing but outright telling a lie about what's going on is another. it's far more likely that they were just too damn stupid to realize what was going on at first so they tried to fix the problems being caused rather than preventing them in the first place.
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>>381306414
>trusting a fucking japanese dev with a history of poorly/badly misrepresenting mythological figures to do old testament figures any justice at all
I'll stick to my SMT for judeo christian stuff, thanks.
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>>381306314
>we don't need more fantasy in this fantasy mmo
Basic boring hyurcuck.
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>>381305706
Ast mp is also garbage now, but balance is too good.
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>Still can't side with the Garleans

God fucking damnit, when will Gaius come back? I still refuse to believe that he's gone.

And why is Estinien so fucking best boy? Do you see him in the DRG questline? Might level DRG to 70 just for that if you do.
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>>381306378
Plenty of other people got told to /xivg/
I noticed everyone who posts their characters have terrible taste as well. I guess that's just a trait required for being /xivg/ material.
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>>381306380
Considering how 80 percent is more like 50 percent in actual percentages due to the wacky RNG in this game, yes I'll gladly pay that price. One ToT proc pays for four of them, it's cheap as hell.
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>>381306414

Fuck off Christian fag
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>>381302229
Y'shtola will be reduced to a stump by 6.0 at this rate
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>>381306520
Yeah, you bro it up with him to fight a dragon
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>>381305684
one or two skills you use at time X does not make a job different

now how a SMN deals damage is entirely different of how a BRD does
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>>381306242
>5C warmer
It's the difference of getting a heatstroke in 10 minutes and 8 minutes.
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>>381306502
didn't they get the SMT character designer for the Ivalice raids or am I thinking of something else
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>>381306479
It was literally "post your character" you prancing lala man, get a grip

>>381306532
Now I'm definitely going to post more of my cat
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>>381305746
>hating on anything Ivalice
>when the best Ivalice game, Final Fantasy Tactics, was hume only because the other races had been genocided

Piss off bunnyfucker.
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>>381306479
>>381306532
The /vg/ boogymen in these threads are even worse than the whole /pol/ boogymen in nu-/v/.
If you're so afraid to see people posting their characters on an IMAGEBOARD you should maybe go and discuss the game somewhere else
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>>381306539
But don't you want to kill a giant cute winged girl
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>"AST and DRK didn't help DPS queues so why bother?"

fuck you SE, fuck you fuck you

>DRK and WAR get changed for the worse, PLD only gets the love
>SCH and WHM get worse and stay just as boring, respectively, AST stays just as good but doesn't really get anything interesting either

meanwhile

>2 of the most fan-favorite DPS jobs
>arguably great reworks for BRD and MCH
>some dps gets worst but for the most part, most got something interesting or rewarding to add to their rotations

at least one tank or healer job per expansion should be standard, dps queues are going to be a fucking joke for a long while, it doesn't help that they knocked SAM and RDM out of the park so people will be sticking with them for a long time as opposed to what happened wtih MCH

don't say "just queue with friends or and FC!" because 90% of my ENTIRE FC is rolling dps
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>>381306242
>>381306356
we just have to make it through the week boys.
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>>381306539
ahmed, you're not supposed to be rude during the rhamadan
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>>381306612
>stop being such a fag
>doubles down on being a fag
you'll fit right in at /xivg/
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>>381306585
Time to do it, then!

Now, if only someone would only explain to me why the Garleans are wrong because I just can't see it.
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>>381306534
>Considering how 80 percent is more like 50 percent in actual percentages

God this game pisses me off so much when crafting/gathering.
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TFW Gaius stopped garlean mustard gas from being used. TFW Gaius did nothing wrong and he was at least empathetic to Eorzean plight in 1.0 before YoshiP railroaded him.
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If possible, can someone clue me in on the side quests actually worth doing?

Maybe fun, interesting, or gives me emotes or glamor shit? Thanks! Kinda hard to find what gives what without looking through 200 quests. Gotta expand my dressup game.
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>>381306642
You can transform into an Angel already in PotD
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>>381305195
Dude, SCH is fucking dead. It's in the worst place out of every job right now. The worst healing, poor personal DPS, and MP problems out the ass.
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>>381306376
I only recently got to 70 and did the story dungeon which DC'd right as I started the last boss, fuck you, but from what I saw it looked like a good DPS could output about 3800 on a boss (not sure what his gear was), while I being fresh had to stay in tank stance and could only put out about 1200, the worse DPS did about 2900 and the healer pulled about 1000 if I recall.

If my gear had been better or at least even with the DPS during leveling I've been able to do bosses in sword oath and maintain aggro easily enough, which I think would put my dps closer to 1800.

>>381306592
Do you want me to describe how Paladin's DPS rotation works or something? It's a good deal different than the other two I'm fairly certain. You seem dead set on pretending the tanks are literally the same class with the same buttons when they've all got pretty damn different strengths.
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>>381306520
If you want to make choices in any way, shape, or form then you are playing the wrong game.

In Final Fantasy 14 you play a good guy hero who likes to save people, kill evil gods, and fight the unambiguously evil empire. That's it. No exceptions, no choice. Deal with it.
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>>381306612
you didn't see the fucking replies to it you stupid cunt?
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>>381306414

I could play just about any other Japanese video game if I wanted a poor interpretation of a Christian deity/entity of power. It'd come part-and-parcel with a dull "dismantle a religious sect that is not the wholesome and pure institution it makes itself out to be" story too. Fuck that noise.
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>>381306694
Doesn't matter, still has the most free globals and indom on top of litany.
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>>381306628
Discuss it where exactly, every avenue of discussion is full of people trying to shoehorn their OC donut steel kawaii uguu character in your face.
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>>381306657
meow meow meow I can't hear you :3
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>>381306602
Nope, if I recall correctly it was someone else.
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>endgame
>2 dungeons and 2 pugable bosses

really makes you contemplate
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>>381306414
SMT/XIV when? I want the Jack brothers to give me quests for orchestration rolls by Shoji Meguro and a Nekomata glamour.
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>>381305892
Lupin would be super fun!
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>>381306676
Look for quest markers that have a blue + sign next to them. That means they unlock new content.
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>>381306628
The /ffxiv/ threads will thrive without seeing your ugly slut-glam character
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>people wanted a 4th tank when SE can barely balance 3
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>>381306628
dont be asshurt people dont enjoy your fedora-core fashion and gateway to /vg/-lite
if you want like minded angsty individuals who truly appreciate your special snowflakism go to /xivg/
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>>381306663
>Failing a synthesis because of retarded RNG when using expensive HQ items
I've never been as angry at a video game as I am when I'm crafting.
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>>381306714
> DPS numbers
ACT is kill, what other tool are you using?
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>>381306694
>SCH used to have infinite mana a pet that could literally solo heal dungeons and the best healer damage of all
>Now when SCH actually have to heal themselves and manage their mana they think their class is shit
Just because they got balanced doesn't mean their class is shit anon.
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>>381306646
i cant help it anon, i cant bring myself to play boring pld and rdm is to fun. can only pray 4.1 will balance some shit back out
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>>381306676
Any that have a sort of "banner" image to them are worth doing imo. Their narratives are a little more involved than your throwaway sidequests and usually last for 3-4 quests in a chain. They also usually originate from Aether Current quests anyway, so keep an eye out.
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>>381306646
DRK is not worse, it actually got more things to manage.
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>>381306736
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>>381306615
>bunnyfucker.

You say this like it's an insult.
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>>381304241
It's basically canon that WoL is a Miqo female, anon.
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>>381306791
beta build of the ACT plugin. It seems mostly trustworthy unless an LB is used, which it attributes to SAM/RDM if they use it.
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>>381306785
Seriously anon, why not go to reddit if that's clearly a place you would love?
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>>381306791
ACT isn't kill, it just can't pick up re-worked dots correctly right now, so it's hard to know how much DPS SCH, and by extension SMN are actually doing.
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Remember when people thought Lyse was going to be emo throughout 4.0

What a bunch of idiots
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>>381302418
SB is leagues better than both HW and ARR. Your opinion is discarded
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>>381306758
>Thordan
>not pugable
Every Trial is puggable. The actual Raid comes out in 4 weeks.
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>>381306612
>>381306628
Bruhs

We're already walking on thin ice with these threads in /v/. Shit gets deleted and moved daily, so it's best to keep these threads as far away from emulating the /xivg/ community as possible.
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>>381306828
Rabbits are filthy animals, if you've ever owned one. Same as guinea pigs, all they do is eat and shit pellets. No affection like dogs or cats, just endless shitting and eating and shitting.

I'm glad viera were genocided between the time of FF12 and FFT.
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>>381306502
Sephirot and Sophia are both vaguely part of that continuum anyway.
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>>381306312
they should just revert balance back to 10% single, 5% AoE

make SCH debuff the boss with invunerabilities caused by DoTs

and have WHM deal raw damage
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>>381306652
Shut up or i will throw my shoe at you
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>>381306634
p-please respond I'm about to bite the bullet
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>>381306856
>It's basically canon that WoL is a Miqo female, anon.

>WoL
>Anything but a Midlander.

It's like you've never seen a final fantasy protagonist before.
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>>381306781
>all 3 tanks are trash
>make a 4th that's not trash
>game fixed
I don't have a good reason just give me my fucking Gunblade Yoshi.
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>>381306883
This. Those character posting assholes don't understand that avoiding the shit like in /xivg. is what keeps the threads alive here on /v/

Honestly, it won't hurt you if you DON'T share your character with the rest of us. Or maybe it does, in that case, head over to /xivg/
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>>381306940
>AST retains its AoE 10% damage increase
this cannot continue
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@381306871
i guarantee the xiv reddit will be mostly character posting
maybe you should take your oc there
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>>381306719
I dunno, they're giving us a shit load more dickbag dialog options lately. Not that we're gonna be joining the empire any time soon but at least they let us express our exasperation at being surrounded by fuckwits now
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>>381306646
preach.
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>>381306978
>Cdkeys.com
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>>381306719
See, I wouldn't mind that if it weren't for the fact that Garleans are the only really active force in the story.

While Eorzeans are completely content with just throwing WoL at everything and seeing if it sticks, the Garleans are developing new ways to deal with the primal menace.

What if some shitty beast guy decided to get bad tummyache and summon Ifrit while WoL was solving shit in Doma? The policy to deal with beast tribes is absolutely retarded in every way, they're practically just restricting crystals and hoping that the thralled ones don't somehow smuggle them through, which is impossible considering the fact that the thralled beasts want nothing more in their miserable existence.

Why not wipe them out? There's no cure for being a thrall anyway, it's all so retarded.
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>>381306978
Should be, I've bought timecards from them no problem before.
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>>381307000
>implying the next tank wont be Blue Mage
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>>381306789
>fail a ton of touches
>Reclaim
>breaks on a 10%
>does it again the next time
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the mindless simplicity of being healer in pvp has actually made it for fun
troll your team by using the ability to call back someone to you

>one button slow+limp

its like playing whack a mole while dancing and still doing doing some shenanigans

rip noct tho
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>>381306904

This is by far the most autistic post in this thread.
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>>381306880
yfw the "actual raid" is just as easy as susanoo ex
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAHFZR0D9ss
They won't make a better fight. Ever.
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When are the servers going up?
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>>381307000
We've wanted the garlean gunblades, gumshields, gun- since 1.0

YoshiP will never give us them.
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>>381307018
The dialog options are always

>Yes
>I always do anyway
>edgy yes
>...
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>>381305352
If you get to 70, you have foul for every umbral phase, which fixes any potential MP issues after B3. T3 > B4 > F3 > F4x3 > F1 > F4x3 > B3 is about 27 seconds. Probably will be 25 under higher spell speed. But, the polyglot timer keeps going even after you get polyglot, which means because of Convert adding 6s to the clock, as well as each extra proc adding 2.5s, you're never without a foul after B3 in single target. Also because of foul and thunder 3 (instead of thunder 1), there's simply more damage going out in umbral too.

The main problem with BLM is honestly SAM being as strong as it is.
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>>381307120
1 hr 15 min
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>>381307086
Next healer's obviously Geomancer
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Do you think I will enjoy it if I just play the free trial version? Is there a lot to do?
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>>381307142
>Why don't they give me dialogue options that would just halt the story with WoL being a huge dick to everyone and walking off?
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>>381307117
Maybe not a better story fight, but think about Menagerie ex.
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>>381307049
I assume I'm given a code and I just redeem it somewhere?
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>>381305721
plz tell me what set this is
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>>381307193
Give it a go, it won't hurt to try, know that you won't party with others until level 15 when you unlock dungeons by doing the main story quest.

so don't feel too lonely at the start.
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>>381307043

It's pretty funny when you consider the fact that the non-thrall beastmen seem to be down with genociding their enthralled brothers. The Amalj'aa seem especially bloodthirsty for Ifrit's pawns.
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>>381307109
>being attracted to filth-animals is not autistic
I don't know what is then.
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>>381307172
I 100% believe SAM will be nerfed before Omega Savage is released. It can't continue on in its current state, it's pretty much NIN all over again, where the developers are so myopic they couldn't see the optimal rotation the playerbase came up with. Then all they really need to do is tone NIN's potencies down a little, as well as RDMs and then all the DPS will be really fucking balanced.
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>>381307086
>a mage that takes other people's abilities and uses them
I fail to see how--would it be BLU, BEM, or BUM--would be a tank. Sure they could take a tanks abilities, but the overall job seems more of a omni role than 1 particular role.
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>>381307189
Thats incorrect it's alchemist
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>>381307043
They have been saying a few times in the story that they're constantly trying to find ways to cure being enthralled by a primal, though they've also put well meaning brass blades to death like seen early on with Ifrit's story.

But the main thing is that #notallbeastmen - there's pretty much always a good portion of any single race that doesn't throw down for this primal summoning shit, and killing them would be like killing all lalafells because Teledji was a piece of shit.
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Reminder that blitzball is confirmed now.
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>Beastmaster tank
>Blue Mage dps
>Dancer healer

tell me why this would be bad
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>>381307193
I'm not a mind reader form your own opinion. But yes, do it. Here's a recruitment code.

Use it so I can get a shiny mount.

8VKQWK3V
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>>381307193

The beginning is the most boring part of the game story- and gameplay-wise. But if you want a glimpse of the fun to be had later on go for it. You'll run out of shit to do quickly though since it caps you at level 35.
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>>381302116
DONT throw rocks at cats!!
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>>381307263
It makes sense, they aren't dumb. Even if they don't understand the Primals are draining the Aether from the world slowly killing it, they understand that everyone who went off to "see the God" is suddenly a brainwashed sheep that wants to kill everyone.
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>>381307283
don't you fucking touch our NIN potencies
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>>381307240
52 or 54 gear of casting chest with the arachne legs of casting and dyed miqote male starter boots because every other boot I saw sucked shit
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>>381307120
>>381307183

2 Hours


http://www.xenoveritas.org/static/ffxiv/timer.html
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>>381307193
You can't use the duty finder which becomes mandatory at level 15, effectively locking you out of the rest of the content up to 35. Not only that Duty Finder is the 100% exclusive way to do content as a party, so you're kinda missing out on the second M of MMO
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>>381307283
What's wrong with 40k frits anon?
Kek
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>>381307263
Probably because the sane Amalj'aa realize that their tempered brethren are a major risk to more than just the Amalj'aa way of life.
That, and the Amalj'aa are a proud race of warrior beastmen so it's not hard to see that succumbing to Ifrit's tempering would be a major sign of weakness.
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>>381307313
I forgot to mention, use it in the event you choose to buy.
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>>381307360
FFXIV doesn't have the second M because it's largely instance-based for most of its important shit.
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>>381307352
Stop being an overpowered piece of shit. You've been broken since your release, it's time to get off the throne.
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>>381307297
>killing them would be like killing all lalafells because Teledji was a piece of shit.
I don't see the issue
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>>381307109
They're right though.
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>>381306615
>tactics
>best ivalice game
It has the worst gameplay with its only saving grace being story but even then the story is unimpressive if you played Tactics Ogre.
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>>381306795
SCH right now is an AST with no draw and worse shields

>Chain Stratagem
a 15% crit chance on a 12,5% uptime, wow
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>>381307360
>You can't use the duty finder which becomes mandatory at level 15
Trialfag here, I can use it just fine?
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>>381307304
Explain to me how you think Blue Mage will work in the context of Final Fantasy 14.

Beastmaster would just be a DPS if they added him, with 3 pre-packaged beasts to summon. Effectively just a melee version of Summoner

Dancer is actually possible
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>>381307283
Both SAM and RDM are getting nerfed. Also, SCH and SMN are basically unplayable. Old trials are fucked up due to skill pruning. Things are quite messy.
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>>381307360
What the fuck? The free trial doesn't prevent you from using the duty finder.
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>>381307403
people are still doing Odin 4 years later.
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>>381306869
>>381306874
I keep getting memory errors when I fire it up
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>>381305570
would buy those things on Mogstation
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>>381307291
yes but yoshi wont break the trinity so it will either be a spell tank or another deeps, still hope it will have dual scimitars again
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>>381307279
>I don't know what is then.

You are, clearly.
I bet you'd quit the game if they ever included them just top spite yourself out of principle.
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Next tank will be a magic based tank or something. Right now we have sword, longer sword and big sword on a stick

It's pretty dull
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>>381307480
You can buy them with gil, Anyan.
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>>381307446
>>381307304
>melee summoner
That exist already it's called puppetmaster and its coming in 4.2
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>>381307461
>>381307439
My mistake then. I heard the trial was severely limited.
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>>381307297
I'd say that an acceptable loss considering the fact that the risk is literally ending the world.

At the very least you could just kill the thralls, I'd be fine with that compromise.

I mean, fucking hell, the resonant are the perfect answer to any primal threat. Zenos knew what the fuck was up with Echo.
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>>381307427
>It has the worst gameplay
Tactical RPG is the height of the RPG genre.
Bonus is that it has the most robust class system in all of FF, the one used in FF3/5.

>the story is unimpressive if you played Tactics Ogre.
The only notable event in TO:LUCT was the false flag village burning. Like FFT it devolved into "lol demon" shit toward the end, so at best TO:LUCT is its equal in story.
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>>381307432

Get ready for more nerfs in 4.1. Yoshi wants SCH dead and buried, my brother's friend's uncle works at SE and he said that YoshiP is always telling the dev team to neuter SCH.

WHMs are next on the list. 4.0 was a sign of things to come.
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>>381307550
not that limited
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>>381307529
Both PLD and DRK are magic based...
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>>381306736
jesus christ that hud layout is awful
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>>381307549
Based on what fact and with what evidence?
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>>381307492
>I bet you'd quit the game if they ever included them just top spite yourself out of principle.
I don't play FF14 because it's a WoW clone. Luckily I figured out this game was shit in the closed beta (both times, 1.0 and ARR).
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>>381307529

I want them to continue the "big thing on a stick" weapons by giving me a hammer tank next. Shit would be so cash.
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>>381306904
>he hates fantasy chocolate amazonian rabbit girls because he didnt like an irl rabbit he owned
Autism
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>mfw dancer is a _tank_
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>>381307536
WHERE
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>>381307472
A friend of mine can only see his own DPS, so I've been hearing rather mixed results about it, but for me it's been okay.
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>>381307586
PLD Is literally the only one who regularly casts a spell to attack outside of muh powerups
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>>381306646
>90% of my ENTIRE FC is rolling dps
get a better FC, they probably dont even have good parses
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>>381307529
Next one is dual axe beastmaster
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>>381307446
>Explain to me how you think Blue Mage will work in the context of Final Fantasy 14.

Give them a specialized hunting log of monsters to take abilities from.

You know how job role abilities work now, how you pick 5 out of a list of whatever #? Give them a page of abilities like that where monster ones sit, let them pick a certain # abilities from that list to use on top of their base job ones, allow them to switch as you would.

SAM is the no utility/high dps class, make Blue Mage heavy utility/medium dps.
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>>381307638
>wanting a viera to poop pellets on you as you rail her from behind
no

thx
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>>381307454
wait what
I thought RDM was called shit in these threads just yesterday
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>>381307454
>Also, SCH and SMN are basically unplayable.
Dramatic babies. Their spammable AoE was cut to bring them in line with other DPS jobs. The DPS rotation of the healer job was simplified because it's a fucking healer job. Its mana management was nerfed because before it had effectively infinite MP. And it had a slight nerf to its healing output because they have a fucking mini-healer that follows them everywhere and constantly throws out free heals, which before essentially allowed them to DPS full-time.

SCHs are mad because now they are a healer instead of a DPS that heals.
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How do i collect my preorder rewards on ps4?
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>>381307640
>Dex-based dodge tank
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>>381307705
>medium dps
dead on arrival
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>>381306356
Watch this.

It was 119 tuesday, There's an outdoor cat that begs me for food all the time and I'm 90% it almost died of heat exhaustion
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>>381307640

>DNC is announced
>Healers get hyped
>turns out it's a DPS
>And it's basically MNK, only better

The shitshow would be amazing to see.
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>>381307640
>dodgetank with paper defense that's about pressing short cds at the right moment or you get rekt
I will finally tank if it's true
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>>381307754
they're going off broken ACT parses as if they are gospel, and since it is broken, it changes every day
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>>381307784
whoops
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>>381307640
I imagine the offical forums or something would explode
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>>381307826
So basically like tanking in TERA
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>>381307454
>RDM
>getting nerfed

Fuck off
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>>381307772
>Implying they will break the tank vit gear thing they have going on. Nah another tank with its own gear would be too much work for these devs.
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We dont need DPS job for the next 4 years or so
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>>381307454
>Old trials are fucked up due to skill pruning.
example?
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>>381307754
No one will really know until the actual raids come out and are mostly just spouting shit. Everyone here is obscenely angry and miserable and wracked with constant self-loathing which they love to take out on the game. In fact I suspect it's the entire reason they play because no sane person would continue to play something they hated THIS much.

I must hate myself too because I keep coming in to these threads.
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>>381307760
As someone who played healers like DPS that heals before, the existence of RDM almost made me stop giving a shit. It's a DPS that heals with a playstyle that's lightyears ahead of healers' "dots + spam button" braindead bullshit.
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>>381307904
there is way too much gear bloat already, let's be real
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>>381307801
would not put it past SE
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>>381307229
Yeah redeem on mogstation
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>>381306823
You're not wrong, but it's a huge problem that DRK is designed entirely around their level 70 toolkit with basically no thought whatsoever given to anything below that.

>DRK is literally worse than PLD now at holding hate from level 1 all the way to level 56
>Does less than half WAR's damage in all those 1-46 dungeon, when they were shoulder-to-shoulder or DRK was even behind before
>Actually does less than half of PLD's damage from 46 to 56, for fuck's sake
>And then once you get to 56, all it does is put you on par with PLD and WAR by finally giving you a usable GCD AoE attack
>But your sustainability still fucking sucks and is a million miles behind both WAR and PLD
>You don't get that basic function of sustainability back until fucking level 66

It's not the first time that they've designed a class so that it just doesn't function properly until you hit level cap (see: ARR Dragoon, HW BLM), but you'd really think they'd have learned not to do that by their third fucking expansion.
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>>381307640
What if dancers dance with some kind of breakdancing or hiphop instead of some slutty belly dancing
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>>381307626
>I don't play FF14

...Then why the Hell are you here?
Christ, maybe you genuinely ARE autistic.
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>>381307760
SMN dps during the bast majority of the leveling process is absolute garbage. Had 2 SMNs in Bismarck hard yesterday, it was a shitshow, the fight took ages, people started dying and I simply had to take the 30 min.

>>381307932
In general. Say it ain't so.
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>>381307826

Too hard for us, SE can't stand having complex classes for veteran players because they might confuse and frustrate newbies and turn them away from the game.

God I wish I had interesting decisions to make and rewards for difficult skill tests while doing content. Savage raids aren't enough compared to all the casual-focused content.
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>>381307860
Phoenix?

they cancelled flights yesterday because of the heat, fucking crazy
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Tfw you just want to fuck your horse waifu on the steppe alone but these asshole foreigners keep giving you strange looks
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>Tfw seen arguments for every class to be in the cuckshed

It's like you're never ever satisfied with anything, eh?
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>>381308071
Because you don't go back to /vg/.
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>>381308052
Well yeah, the consensus is that DRK is quite bad before 70.
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>>381307454
RDM and SAM are examples of good job design(for them) now they just need to raise other jobs to there level
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>>381308147
Revert to 2.1 and I'll be satisfied
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>>381307705
Try listing some actual monster abilities that would make sense to put on a ranged DPS character. The vast majority off enemy attacks are just attacks that players already have access to (like Aero or Overpower), or would be way too powerful to give the player.

Like, do you really think Yoshi will give players an ability that gives like 10 different status effects in a large cone like Bad Breath? Even some skills that "seem" unique like Charge Whisker are effectively identical to an existing ability (Holy)

There's also the fact that FFXIV has a heavy focus on rotation based combat. They can't really build up an ability rotation with a huge list of random abilities
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>>381308147
haven't seen a single one about BRD because everyone playing the job knows how good it is
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>>381308147
It's almost like it's all shitposting.
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>>381308160
I guarantee you that people only think SAM and RDM have such great design because they are new and fresh. A few months down the track people will be bitching about their shortcomings, like every other job.
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>>381308052
You mean second expansion. I agree with you though, as a DRK main I'm feeling kinda gutted right now. At least my toolkit's starting to come together again. Lvl 66 is a fuckin' gamechanger.
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>>381307760
they should give a rotation to healers to somehow increase the DPS output, kinda like how Draw works right now

it would make it interesting, because.. lets be honest, the DPS/utility meta is here to stay
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>>381308191
>There's also the fact that FFXIV has a heavy focus on rotation based combat.
Which is why it's shit. Shut it down, remove Yoshida and begin development on the next MMORPG.
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>>381307705
>blue mage is a caster tank with tons of ogcds
ftfy
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>>381308195
I've seen someone in Novice Network saying they miss the HW Bard and its castbars.

I don't know how.
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>>381308062
This is exactly what I want actually. Pull aggro with flashy moves cause haters gonna hate.
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Does anyone know the .ogg filename for the final boss phase 1 soundtrack? I somehow missed it while ripping.
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>>381308095
Yeah, it's fucking terrible.

Never come here.
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>>381308253
They do have a DPS rotation, it's just markedly less complicated than the actual DPS jobs, because they're not a fucking DPS job.
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>>381308191
It could be done, and I want to angrily argue with you that it could be, but I can't because you're not entirely wrong, and the biggest hurdle is that SE is lazy as fuck.
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>>381308087
High end content in this game are such rigid dances that you wouldn't be able to make decisions if you wanted to anyway.

What we need: more reactive gameplay instead of "rotations" and exact buff/debuff timers, unpredictable bosses. The problem is addressing both of these requires you to redo the designs for many of the classes because these designs assume everything is predictable and shit themselves when something goes wrong. See: old Enochian and Wildfire.
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>>381308191
Considering the status effects in XIV are little more than mild annoyances and even less useful on enemies, there would be nothing wrong with Bad Breath on a cooldown.
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>>381302818
not sure if bullshitting but i'll play along because it's interesting.
I assume you work with the NA servers, was there any panicking when the instance server bullshit came to light? did any body even actually fucking care? was there any interesting behind-the-scenes things you could tell us about
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I'm really enjoying MNK, almost 69 already and glad to see all the doomsaying didn't have much impact.
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>>381308309
I can agree with you that it "could" be done, but it will never ever actually happen because it goes against the FF14 teams design philosophy. Just like a beastmaster class that actually collects bests, or summoner being able to summon any primal he's beaten; it could happen. It never will happen.
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>>381308191
remember that SCH and RDM are known for being able to use a fuckton of spells

if BLU ever came it would be based on proccing stuff on damage received or something
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>>381308369
No, you're problem is that you want an entirely different game.
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Official Cuckshed Rankings:

>Not in the shed
SAM, RDM, BRD, AST, PLD, NIN, DRG, BLM

>In the shed
MCH, WAR

>Basement level shed dwellers
SCH, SMN, WHM, DRK, MNK
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>>381308307

WHM: Cast Aero, spam Stone (Holy if more than 3 enemies)
SCH: DoT up (two!), cast Shadow Flare if you have it, spam Ruin, use Energy Drain when necessary
AST: Cast Combust, spam Malefic (Gravity if more than 3 enemies)

Yeah, no, none of them are rotations. SCH is the only one that comes close since it's a split of Arcanist.
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>>381308426
That's kinda what needs to be done to enable "interesting decisions to make and rewards for difficult skill tests while doing content".
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>>381308468
Call them whatever you want, it's damage they can do to supplement the group. If you want a rotation, play a DPS job.
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>>381308408
It play literally the same and even less option than in HW tho, I personally find that too boring and switched to SAM.
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>>381308468
>[cast all of your dots] [spam something] [refresh your dots]
They are all the same lmfao
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>>381308468
Why would I use RuinII instead of Broil?
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>>381308408
I simply can't enjoy it. It's been the exact same thing ever since the launch of ARR
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>>381308221
The problem is that they nerfed Blood Price all the way back at like level 35 or whatever it is that you actually get it, in anticipation of a trait that doesn't buff it until 66.

They should have kept Blood Price the same as a base skill, and then make the level 66 trait reduce MP generation while adding Blood generation.
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I with this new expansion i feel like blind buying FF XIV
am i retarded y/n?

I cant remember the last time i even played any FF title
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>>381308554

It automatically upgrades Ruin into Broil for you now, so you're still spamming one single-target damage button.
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>>381308445
>MNK
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>>381308550
at the very least AST has "fuck with your cards every 30 seconds"
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People complaining about there only being two new jobs don't realize that BRD was so heavily reworked that it's pretty much an entirely new job now
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>tfw late to thread again
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>>381308606
There's a free trial that lets you play any class until level 35. Try that before you commit.
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>>381300880
>BRD
BRD can't even reach 3k now. SAM and RDM are both within the 4k region.
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>>381308623
No it dosnt, I still have my RuinII and Broil, Ruin don't have any castbar, while Broil does.
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>>381308647
True. This is why AST is the only healer I enjoyed. Though with how often WHM can act now instead of standing around worrying about their shit MP regen I kinda enjoyed them too.
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>>381308606
Try the free trial if you're curious but still unsure, it won't hurt! Can play to level 35
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>>381308584
I'm actually really upset about the Blood Price nerf. The intent behind it is clear - with the change to how Syphon Strike works in Grit you're clearly meant to be using Blood Price to suplement Syphon Strike, not have it act as a reliable source of MP on it's own.
The problem is at you go from generating 300+ MP each time you get hit to less than 100 in the 60s. I'm not 70 yet so I dunno if it breaks triple digits again but it's just really bad.
Blood Weapon on the other hand is still just as good as it was in HW.
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>>381308676
Go back to /vg/
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>>381308369
>What we need: more reactive gameplay instead of "rotations" and exact buff/debuff timers, unpredictable bosses.
I really agree with the former, not so much the latter. The difficulty should be something fun for everyone, but not everyone is paying for the same experience. Casuals, retards and children make a significant portion of the player base- and content should still be viable to everyone.

I feel like if a boss got garnered a different experience per play, then it'd have to be Extreme/Savage. Content locked behind an ilevel the average player wont have unless they worked for it.
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>>381308253
they most certainly should abso-fucking-lutely not
AST is such a massive OGCD shit show, and i fucking love it. if you're not currently casting Benefic 1 or 2, you should have aspected helios casting. Already got the buff? PULL THEM CARDS BABY! Balance? Save. Anything else? LORD AND LADY THAT SHIT BITCH CUZ GUESS WHAT? with Essential dignity, earthly star, AND the lady we now have 3 off-GCD heals for bailing out that shitty tank who used to call healers out for not dpsing when he wont use a single cd on trash pulls. Oh, did i mention we also still have Lightspeed and Synastry IN ADDITION to Largesse(role version of divine seal)
Get fucked SCH, enjoy getting kicked from all your savage raid groups
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>>381307568
>Tactical RPG is the height of the RPG genre.
That's not what I was referring to. It has the worst gameplay of the Ivalice Tactics games.

>Like FFT it devolved into "lol demon" shit toward the end, so at best TO:LUCT is its equal in story.
Except the demon shit happens way way way later in the TO story unlike FFT, where it happens too fucking early.
FFT didn't have godlike character development for its protagonist either.
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>>381308445
Checks out.
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>>381308676
>implying there wont be another one
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>>381308573
>>381308546
I'm not sure about less options but I actually appreciate the main rotation remaining the same.

On a sidenote, Ifrit Hard is quickly becoming my favorite trial because of the new One Ilm Punch.
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>>381308663

But it's still a DPS job. And the excuse that they needed to re-balance the tanks and healers was total bullshit since PLD went from zero to untouchable hero and AST remains the indisputable King of Healing. No wonder people are mad.
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hey there guys does EB still give a mount? Pic related
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>>381301523
/ourguy/
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>>381308663
Am bard, can confirm. Pitch perfect is neat. Being able to run and shoot again is also neat.
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>>381308857
y
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>>381308843
>main PLD and BLM

i ain't mad one bit
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>>381308584
MNK is the same way. All the stuff that is supposed to make up for the removal of Touch of Death and lost skill potencies isn't gotten until 66-70. You play a MNK synced to level 60 content, it's all the same skills as HW except weaker attacks, no Touch of Death, no Blood for Blood.
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>>381308775
But I want to talk about the game with you guys instead!
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>>381308776
I think the game needs to up its difficulty floor in general or casuals, retards and children will continue to exist. People shit themselves at the slightest difficulty jumps or get rusty doing Extreme/Savage because the rest of the game puts them in a too relaxed state of mind
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>>381308814
>It has the worst gameplay of the Ivalice Tactics games.
The only other games in the Ivalice series are RPGs, so in fact FFT is still superior in that statement because it is a tactical RPG.

>where it happens too fucking early.
Late chapter 3 is not early. Chapters 1-3 are setting up characters like Wiegraf to be corrupted by the lucavi, as well as Cardinal Draclau.
>FFT didn't have godlike character development for its protagonist either.
Both Ramza and Denam go from naive and innocent boys to hardened men by the end of their stories. They're typical Matsuno characters.
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>>381308841
They removed ToD and no Fracture in case you can't hit positional anymore, I know True North mitigate the need for Fracture but I think it was neat.
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>>381308857
>>>/vg/
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>>381308982
Or they could keep appealing to the majority instead of the minority that wants harder content in general.
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>>381308912
Isn't it obvious?
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>>381308759
>>381308678
dammit I should have checked to see if there was a free trial thing to begin with
thanks
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>728 posts on a late night /v/ thread
Nice.
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>>381308982
I'm sad Wildstar failed because it felt like the first themepark MMO that didn't use dungeons as an extension of solo play/questing as a handholding tool for group content. Dungeons had tons of mechanics and it forced players to learn instead of dungeons being a loot pinata safe space because the "end game raids" are were all the challenge should be.
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>>381305091
but arent the resonant just injected with the echo or sth?
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>been ignoring launch primals again because I'm leveling all my jobs to 70. Sometimes I wish you could only be 1.
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>>381309030
im letting it slide just because thread is ending
dont post chars again faggot
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>>381309073
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