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Roadhog funeral

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I always hate this guy for one-shotting me but this is just sad.
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Not gonna lie, former Roadhog player here. This is hilarious watching Roadhog crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let him land those hooks.
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Thank christ. Hog shouldn't be a mandatory pick.
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Is he really that bad now? Thought the changes just meant you had to stick closer to your party, rather than peel off and be a super-sustainable ganker.
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>>381300907
His gun is as strong as shooting nerf darts at a person.
His hook is useless now unless your target is Tracer
He's a walking ult battery and that's all he's good for now
>>381300740
Yeah now Reaper is his mandatory replacement, big fucking difference
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>Jump in as winston with 500 hp.
>Get one shot by roadhog.

He deserved it.
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>>381299713
imagine you played this game.


the real funeral should be the multiplayer FPS genre but I guess it's been in the grave for awhile now.
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>>381301579

yeah but now Reaper is the must pick

GG
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>>381301579
>is too stupid to have situational awareness and know when not to jump it
>waaah why did I die
Roadhog was the casual clearer and punisher of shitty players and that is why so many people cried about him.
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>>381301660
At least Reaper can't OTK you in one second.
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>>381301687

>one shotting a 500hp character
>balanced
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>>381301730
stop.
you're making my headache worse.
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I like the nerf, you actually have to play as a team now, if he grabs a target it's not just "lol insta kill", the team has to target it to finish it off. It's supposed to be a team game so that makes more sense. I wouldn't mind them buffing something else of his to make up for it, but fuck one shots with the hook.
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>>381301804
He only one shotted you if you were too fucking stupid to stay in his close radius.
But enjoy the self-healing edgelord now I guess.
>>381302001
Except most classes are self-sufficient as is. This doesn't put Roadhog on an even playing field, it throws him into the trash.
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>>381302001
Playing as a team means grouping up and pushing! Let's get together guys! Group and Push! Let's go! Come on! Yea that's team spirit! Let's go guys, group and push!

Come on! Don't spread out! Let's group up and push already, damn! Yea! Now that's what I'm talking about! All grouped up and ready to push!
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>>381302072
Most classes also don't have 600 hp, a gun that can one shot kill at medium distance, a self heal for 300 hp and an ability that line up your enemies for a quick easy kill. No, fuck the one shot shit, it's better this way. If he's actually underpowered right now they should buff something else but no more one shot shit.
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>>381302292
>a gun that can one shot kill at medium distance
Hyperbole from tear-stricken whiners who finally got their way.
It's Genji Nerf 2.0, and to this day Genji is still worthless compared to any other alternative because of what they did.
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>>381301687
Roadhog is the only character that instantly deletes the targets they counter without a chance for counterplay. Pavementpig is the worst example of a counterpick-based balance, where it literally comes down to the pick and no skill. If the pig is even somewhat competent, he'd be able to save his backline from stupid distances and thus render an otherwise pretty good pick absolutely worthless. The reach of his influence is huge considering it was a one-hit-kill for a huge part of the cast. And even if he's a fat target and an ult-battery, he's still dangerous if he has his hook up and if he heals himself, he's also getting ult which is not a bad one all things considered. At least his ult has weaknesses and counters, compared to the rest of his fucking toolkit.
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>>381302440
>Genji is still worthless

On what fucking planet? He's top three right now.
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>>381302440
>what is RMB snipes
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>>381302440
>It's Genji Nerf 2.0, and to this day Genji is still worthless compared to any other alternative because of what they did.
?? Genji is super viable for dive comps, wtf are you talking about
Roadhogfags are the worst, I'm so happy your easy point and click adventure character got destroyed. Stay mad.
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>>381301579
>mfw shooting Winstons point blank
>hooking
>and shooting them again for the kill
He was the ultimate pubstomper, he was too good this world.
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>>381302001
>I like the nerf, you actually have to play as a team now

if you played as a team before you shouldn't have been killed by it

>defense matrix
>ice wall
>orisa shield
>reinhardt shield
>winston bubble
>concussion blast
>soundwave
>zarya bubble
>sleep dart
>flashbang
>another hook

there were so many fucking ways to not get killed if your team isn't braindead, there was even one point where reaper could simply wraith form out

Hanzo scatterarrowing your feet from across the map is infinitely more frustrating than Roadhog's hook ever was.
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>>381302440
Nigger what? They should have let him keep infinite wall runs, but otherwise he's fine still. Your only alternative is the lesbian either way.
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>>381302572
>easy point and click adventure character
Yeah, now there's just lifesteal Reaper for that now ;)
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well it's a generally known fact that roadhog could hook one enemy from the one side of universe from the other. Think this nerf for roadhog with upcoming patch is kinda justifiable. But at the same time this doesn't make reaper as must pick character, since he's completely useless (not even joking) compared to other dealers. even if he's picked, he's not going to be efficient substitution for roadhog.
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>>381302595
Yeah but roadhog's making the play, so his team should react to it.
>Hanzo scatterarrowing your feet from across the map is infinitely more frustrating than Roadhog's hook ever was.
sure but it's not nearly as reliable and really doesn't happen as often as grabs.
>Yeah, now there's just lifesteal Reaper for that now ;)
reaper is much more enjoyable to play against, so yeah, I like that reaper is replaced by roadhog
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>>381299713
>T. Shitters

They BUFFED roadhog

You can't 1 shot but you attack much faster and have a smaller headbox and a larger clip

If your team has any cohesion he's great

He's just not a one trick one shot pony
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>>381302763
>reaper is much more enjoyable to play against
There's nothing enjoyable about getting 1-2 shotted by a Hot Topic model with a free escape button and an ult that now makes him as invincible as Tranquility does.
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>>381302817
yeah exactly, he's much better for a coordinated team now, shitters are just mad that they can't solo carry to masters with him
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>>381302817
you havent actually played him yet have you?
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>>381302817
>>381302924
I doubt he has. The damage reduction on the gun is extreme, you're literally nothing but a walking ult batter now.
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>>381302875
I hate the hog nerf too, but
>what is zen with any dps for 500?
Discord shits all over death blossom.
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>>381302484
>>381302440
He's not really worthless but he's definitely not a must pick hero.
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>mfw i'm playing reaper
Finally fags stop complaining about "MUH NOT META HERO".
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>Mcree was nerfed because he killings things too fast and stunned them
>Roadhog did the exact same thing but was never nerfed
About time they caught up with their design philosophy
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>>381302998
Do you not realize his ult also has lifesteal? That doesn't matter, and it's likely the Zen will be dead if Reaper is ulting if it's a smart Reaper
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>>381302817

33% damage reduction is not a buff. In no fucking universe is Roadhog going to be able to get off all 5 shots on an opponent, even one that he's hooked. I urge you to play him and get a feel for just how gimped his left click is, he's a total non-threat at close range now
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>>381302875
>ult that now makes him as invincible as Tranquility does.
unless he gets stunned by mcree, hooked, frozen, sleeped, kicked out of the team, blocked by zarya shield, blocked by diva, blocked by reinhart, blocked by orissa, healing through with tranquility or kicked off the map by lucio.
At least with reaper you're not insta killed unless he's literally in melee range of you (which is also super risky for him btw) you're not just >grabbed>dead
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F
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>>381302440

Opinion. Trashed.
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>playing babbywatch
Lmao
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>>381302817
Have you played or played against him since the patch? D. Va can probably out trade him in 9 out of 10 engagements now.
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>>381303157
>typing like this
Kill. Yourself.
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>>381303086
>>381302998
wow.
they just want reaper players to carry now apparently.
like you can just carry as reaper now.

>>381303037
there's a bunch of nuance to the way it works that basically says that those aren't equivalent examples.

for example, roadhog is a character designed entirely around the hook shotgun combo and he doesn't have anything else.
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>>381302440
>and to this day Genji is still worthless compared to any other alternative
Why do roadhog shitters have such low IQ?
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>>381302595
>Hanzo scatterarrowing your feet from across the map
How the fuck does this shit even work? Every time I play Hanzo and shoot a scatter at an enemy's body or feet it hits for 10 damage and they go off in all other directions, every time an enemy plays Hanzo and shoots a scatter it's an instant condensed 200 damage.
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>>381302995
>>381302924
>>381303116
i've been playing him all day, he's fine
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Ana nerf when? 76 nerf when? Pharah nerf when?
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>>381302817
>walk up to Bastion
>load a whole clip on him in point blank
>bastion still alive
>buff
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>>381303536
sounds like someone needs to retake geometry 101
I wish I fucking knew myself
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>>381303425
That's how blizzard does balancing, everyone takes their turns. It'd be nice if they could just make a balanced game but they're incompetent so this is what we get. But yes, I prefer reaper rather than roadhog.
>roadhog is a character designed entirely around the hook shotgun combo and he doesn't have anything else.
yeah except a lot of hp, a ridiculous self heal with low cd, a gun that can literally one shot at mid range and a really powerful ult for closing out games. But yeah he's got nothing but his combo
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>>381303545
Keep telling yourself and maybe that will become true.
>>381303554
They tried to nerf Ana and the baby whiner community threw a fit until they removed it.
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>>381303425
>Mcree's entire kit was designed around flash stun mag dumping and rolling for a reload
>Mcree had less HP than roadhog and couldn't bring people to him

Oh yea not equivalent at all tho, Mcree's was much harder to get off and he had a lot less health too.

Ain't that funny?
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>>381303536
I think it has to be as close to their feet as possible without actually hitting them with the arrow. And fully strung of course
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>>381303627
>>381303636
all his shit is dodgable and predictable.
actually, I feel like people that can't fight roadhog just have really shitty pattern recognition in general.
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>>381303896
And they'll never have to learn that because Blizzard makes sure the babies can play the game without struggle.
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>"we want all our characters to feel powerful"
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>>381303896
Mcree was dodgeable and predictable

Why shouldn't have mcree been allowed to keep his fan the hammer power?

I bet you're one of the people who complained about it too.
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As a Roadhog main in plat on PC, he was a little op. Maybe I'm just exceptionally good at getting off hooks, but having a hero that can bring down literally any other character in a 1v1 is a little much.
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>>381304101
no, his flashbang is literally instant.
it's predictable but you can't dodge it. it's just 100% guaranteed shit. also it's an AOE.

it was really retarded when he could also snipe people with his gun AND instagib people with his gun up close.
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>>381304027
>Tornbjorn
>Sombra
>Orisa
>Widow
>Mei
>people still complains about Road nerf
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>>381303554
Symmetra nerf when? She's the grim reaper himself.
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>>381304151
>in plat
Your insight means nothing
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>>381303896
>all his shit is dodgable and predictable.
so is literally everything in the game, the thing is at some point the roadhog's gonna land his hook and it will kill you if you're a 250 health or less character (talking about pre nerf obviously). It'd be passable if the hook had a 15 second cd so it actually meant something if you dodged it or if the character didn't have 600 hp, plus a self heal, plus a one shot kill right click at mid distance, plus a good ult for ending games and pushing in general. Roadhog players want to be able to do it all because they can't into team games, they want to be able to solo carry. Thankfully they can't do that anymore so I assume they'll just rage quit or something.
>>381304006
looks like you'll have to learn how to press more than shift ;)
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What could they do to Bastion to make him better?
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>>381304270
Most people play in gold-plat.
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>>381304368
Most people are also shit at this game hence why. As shown by the balance patches that are most desired.
If you're under Diamond your opinion doesn't matter
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>>381304270
I wasn't trying to qualify my opinion with that I was just saying what skill level I'm at and how hog fares at it, and honestly he dominates plat.
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>>381304368
most people means average.
average means bad.
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>>381304353
bring back the frontal shield on him, you're supposed to feel like a bastion when you play him but you just feel like a bitch that has to redeploy every time an enemy can see you
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>>381304253
>Snipe people
Nigga his drop off was garbage on release and then they buffed it after he was neutered, then they promptly nerfed him agian. It didn't snipe when he gibbed with FTH

And you could dodge it easy, you dodged it by dodging the corner he was humping.
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>>381304425
>average means bad.
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>>381301635
This. Multiplayer FPS peaked with either Perfect Dark of Timesplitters
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>>381304514
ye
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>>381304545
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>>381299713
Daily reminder that Blizzard has no fucking idea how to balance classes, stats, characters, abilities, etc. in any of their games.
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>>381304497
well used to be able to one shit at mid range and at close range with roadhog plus have high hp and a quick heal, but it wasn't op because people who played roadhog deemed that it wasn't
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>>381301635
RIP.
>>381303182
Pretty much.
>>381304595
Blizzard has no idea how to design shooters, period.
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>>381304268
I'm honestly fine with her range boost but what the fuck is up with her movement speed?
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Someone please tell me something good about the lunar base map.
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>>381304816
Isn't it the same as practically everyone else?
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>>381304709
yeah it's pretty bad but it's one of the only games where you can grab a couple of friends and get into it for an hour or two and be done with it, other than that you get shitty mobas or cs which is ok I guess if you like getting destroyed by hackers/smurfs but overall there's not much to play with buddies nowadays
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>it's 'roadhog's victims cry babies claim to be roadhog main and say he's better now so Blizzard will keep him like this' episode
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>>381302572
>i know dive comp so i'm so skilled and knowledgeable in Overwatch guys!!
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>>381304885
blizzard doesn't care about roadhog players' complains anyway. They won't be reverting the changes, no one needs to pretend to be a retard to influence them.
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>>381304885
Nah I stopped playing when they nerfed Mcree again

I'm just here for the giggles since overwatch is hot garbage.
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>>381304968
Anyone who just randomly mentions dive comp is an idiot trying to sound like their favorite streamer.
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Road was pretty shit because he punished everyone in any situation save from people peeking from corners or balconies (and even then he had his magic hook) or protected behind shields.

Glad he got nerfed but I doubt he'll stop being an highly-played hero.
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>>381299713
>play reaper after new patch
>get hooked by hog
>fuck here we go
>does like half my health
>shoot him once and back to full
>fat pig cunt tries scrambling away like the piece of shit he is
>mfw

get fucked piggy, spitting on your grave
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>>381304863
Ok I am aware of the fact that most mid sized heroes have the same movement speed, sans Tracer and Lucio. But shit doesn't make fucking sense when I have seen Symmetra catch up to almost anyone even if they belonged to the same size class. And it's not just one time either.

I have checked and checked again, there is no Lucio anywhere around her to give her movement speed or anything, just me and her 1v1 both moving in the same direction with enough distance for her laser to not touch me, and yet somehow after a second or so the damned thing is caught onto me. I honest to god believe that she have like a slightly higher movement speed compared to other mid sized heroes.
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>>381304968
genji's good in divecomps though, that guy said that he was trash
>>381305103
it wasn't randomly and I don't watch overwatch streams so I wouldn't know
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>>381305103
>watching streamers instead of playing to get better

holy shit the fucking betas are everywhere today.
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>>381302817

>They BUFFED roadhog

>15% overall damage reduction is a buff.

Go back to elementary school to learn some math, jesus.
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Now when will they nerf Tracer? Bitch has obscene DPS, a free pick ult every 15 seconds and like 300 hp. You can't name one weakness she might have that's not covered by her kit.
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>>381303005

Tracer>>Soldier/Genji>Sombra>Mcree>Reaper (Old)

Dunno where new reaper goes, genji is good.
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>>381302643
>lifesteal Reaper for that now
reaper has been irrelevant for a long, long time. 20% lifesteal is not changing that in the long run. Maybe for 2 weeks while people figure out "wtf how is this reaper sustaining" but after that, nah. He's not any stronger than he was.
From the average kill, he gains 40 (forty) HP. Thats less than one more zenyatta ball to the face. Entirely killing roadhog will give him less than half his HP.
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>>381305309
WOAH THERE
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>>381305395
lol tracer shits on mcree
>getting hit by flashbang when your effective range is outside the range of flashbang
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>>381305381
noooo buuuut duuuuuude reaper is a muuust pick hes op cuase he gets less heal per kill than he used to! they also made it so he doesnt need to releoad when he press shift!!
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>>381305309
I feel like it's hard to justify her because she is one of those skill requirement characters that will do godly if the player is good or absolute garbage if the player is shit.

But oh boy, there is nothing in this world worse than a really good Tracer.
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>>381305205
I played a bit of Symm and it happened often that I'd lose my ray chasing after someone. I suppose it's simply a matter of going slightly off track so the distance between the two characters grow or shrink, and if there's no obstacles to go around it keeps that way.
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>>381305395
McCree is irrelevant because of how fucking terrible he is. He's not a Tracer counter either.
Tracer has the second highest DPS in the game, Bastion being the first, and has no actual counters.
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>>381305461
>using FTH instead of 2 easy headshots unless it's a tank
you deserve to die to tracers.
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>>381305461
lol by the time it takes you to shoot 2 times she can kill you pretty easily
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>Rein, Winston, 76, Phara, Mercy/Lucio, Ana
>both teams in 90% of games
"Fun".
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>>381305395
See this point falls in the same category as being told Roadhog is a counter to her. You have to be godly good with either one to ever think about killing a GOOD Tracer.
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>>381305661
>Phara, Mercy
People whine about a lot of things but all complaints falls flat when this fucking cancer still exists.
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>>381305601
>2 easy headshots on a small as fuck head on a small character zapping around around you and constantly going in and out your fov

Hell, with Recall it's 3 headshots. You must just play against shit Tracer.
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Blizzard should have let every hero stay OP
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>>381305103
Dive comps are pretty common in normal play. It's not like some secret high level tactic.
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>>381305205
It's just the jolly 'shortest way between two points' issue
She just has to run towards you, and every time you slighty stray off the path and curve she can close the distance
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>stuck in Diamond
>every game a shitter pick Rein
>do nothing all round besides holding his shield
>shield is useless as fuck and you can bet money that once you start trusting him he'll drops it and get you killed
>asks that the shitter switch off Rein
>“Woah man Rein is like really good fuck off you know nothing"

If you're not in GM and play Rein you are actively throwing the game by making it a 5vs6.
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>>381301687
> waaaah I'm a roadhag main and I'm butthurt

Fuck you and your main.
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>>381301579
>jumping directly down the barrel of the strongest shotgun as gorillaman
Winston players
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>>381300740
>It's fine if Rein is a mandatory pick
>It's fine if Ana is a mandatory pick
>It's fine if Lucio is a mandatory pick
>Roadhog shouldn't be a mandatory pick! fuck that guy!
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>>381300740
he was never a mandatory pick, he was still a high risk high reward character because if you dont consistently make picks, you are going to lose a 6 v 6 because hog has no team fight utility besides insta deleting a guy and the other team prob has more ult charge since you just feed them ult for free.
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>it's a bronze /v/ complains episode

LMAO
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>>381306740
>If you miss your shots and don't get kills you're a liability
Wow no way. That's not exclusive to roadhog.
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>>381302160
This is autism.
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>>381305461
>tap Tracer once between her jumps
>she panics and rewinds
>throw flashbang where I know she's rewinding to
>FTH
>"I'm yer huckleberry."
Every time.
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>>381305335
i honestly hate when people pick genji on my team especially when we dont have the comp for it, the whole team is getting fucked in shield wars because we are missing sustained DPS and the genji is fucking about in the back getting picked off and shit and refuse to switch

it just takes too much coordination in pugs to support some faggoty genji main
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i never even played roadhog but it's still pretty sad
i played a little bit during the anniversary event and it felt really off, mccree felt really weak and i kept getting beaten down by tracer and symmetra, two characters who were pretty shitty the last time i played before that
i dunno what the hell is going on with that game anymore since it seems like they change everything drastically all the time
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Just made roadhog players aim more. Good change if you ask me. Also reaper was always good. Fucking cucks just gotta go in!
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If this is how he is from now on without Blizzard addressing feedback (which they had plenty of on their forums) then I won't be surprised if some other heroes get similar nerfs that go back on what they're meant to do. Now that the hook is done, people will find something else to complain about.
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>>381306740
>600 hp character with a self-heal, a practically instant kill combo, a shotgun that can actually be useful past 3 meters and an ult to make everyone on the enemy team fuck off is "high risk"

Zen is an high-risk hero, Genji's an high risk hero, fucking Winston is an high risk hero, not Road.
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So when does Mercy's ult get reined in to the point she's no longer mandatory?
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Hog nerf was needed. Reaper buff is broke af. Blizzard a shit
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>>381307735
i sincerely agree to you
i used to play as reaper a lot, like total 300 hours
and now i can't pick reaper or being forced not to pick reaper in competitive, since he's considered as same as hanzo, like trolling picks
it's really sad that Blizzard doesn't really care about balances between characters
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Holy shit this new update is great! Really separates the good Roadhogs from the bad ones

>play against a handful of Roadhogs today
>every time they hooked me and didn't kill me in the first shot they panicked
>miss every other shot
>rip them a new asshole because I can heal myself now with every shot

I only had one game where they had a good Roadhog who didn't freak out when I didn't die right away and followed up on another good and accurate shot on me.
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>>381302595
>If your team isn't braindead
There's the issue, man.
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>>381307735
How in the fuck did Reaper's upgrades leave their test environment? I don't understand.
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>>381308373
I always noticed that most Roadhogs will only emerge into view to try and hook someone and slink off back to hide if they fail
Some tanks
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>>381308598
Well he only heals for 40 hp now, even just 30 hp against tracer so its kinda a nerf.
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>>381300041
i caught the joke. im surprised no one else did.
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>>381300041
Heh
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>all these people playing buffed reaper and mccree

>mfw getting flash fan roll combo'd or clipped down by reaper after hooking

another worthless dead hero for the pile
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>>381308709
/pol/ posting should never be encouraged.
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>>381306706
Ana's pick rate is in the toilet now

Below diamond can't aim so they won't use her
Master+ always mirrors the comp meta which is currently Lucio/Zenyatta with a sprinkling of Pharamercy.

Since you think Ana is mandatory I can accurately determine your rank is diamond.
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>>381308830
But Ana is the most fun support.
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>>381308652
Yeah but he heals even before killing anyone. And in case of tanks he heals more than what he originally got. And a good ult can basically makes him immune to people trying to shoot him while he does it.
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>>381308830
Ana's still picked often in gm+ at least, idk what below that is like, but it really depends on the map

koth luc/zen/merc
2cp you'll see a lot of ana
payload is kinda equal
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>>381309281
Healing from kills was pointless when he never killed anyone
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Glad the chunky Pigdog got nerfed gives some room for other tanks to shine
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>>381300041
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I actually support this nerf because it's another step towards taking the must pick status from Reinhardt. The only defense I've heard for the hook being okay is "positioning errors", which boils down to you not being behind Reinhardt's erection-o-protection which indirectly leads to your team fighting a 5-6 if you lack a Reinhardt as soon as Roady pushes shift.
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>>381300740
>soldier is mandatory, is fine
>tracer is basically mandatory, is fine
>mercy, the lowest skill character who has a game deciding ult, is fine

Lmao
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>>381301579
>jumping into a giant with a giant shotgun, dies
Winston players, no aim no brain
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>>381301730
You can, barrel stuff a squishy and its a OHK
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>>381305309
People always underestimate the engineers
*bunk**bunk**bunk**bunk**bunk*AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>381299713
I'm so glad this nerf went through. It really separates the bad Hog players from the good ones, and shows just how much of a crutch he was for so many people.

Anyone whos actually decent can still get a lot of value out of Hog. But the shitty players? All they can do is cry now that their one shot is gone.
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>>381302817
>hook a bastion
>barely takes his health down past his armour

>hook a lucio, no kill boop and he gets away

Yeah sure he xan spam into some rein shield big fucking whoop
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>The Reaping (Passive)
>Removed health orbs
>Now regains 20% of all damage done to heroes as health

Fiddy bucks says that they removed the orbs because someone asked Jeff Kaplan on twitter asking how they work from a lore perspective and he spun some bullshit how just because they're in game, doesn't mean it's part of the lore and you need to suspend your disbelief for a fantasy game.
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>nerf him because he is a pubstomper
>don't touch genji or ana tho
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>>381311028
Don't forget Sombra. They think she's perfectly fine with that pissy little toy she owns.
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>>381310991
Someone asked him that months ago, and yeah thats more or less the response he gave.
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>>381311115
The fiddy bucks is still up there just in case he had that idea for the change in mind.
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>>381309281
Reaper deserves that after a year of getting his shit kicked in by other heroes
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>>381311028
No other hero is as uncontested as Hog was. His only weakness was literally using voice chat and focusing him down whenever he appeared/keeping track of him at all times.
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man seeing all the balance whining surrounding this game makes me glad I'm not invested in it anymore

I rarely played hog and I never had a problem fighting him, in fact I liked playing against hogs because he was literally a free ult pinata
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>>381311382
His weakness was not walking into his hook range and using him as the ult battery he has always been.
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>>381299713
>now every time I'm not paying attention and everyone sticks me with tank, I have to play reinhardt and move slowly while holding right click for 10 straight minutes instead of having fun
FUCK.
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>>381311475
Only at low ranks is that a weakness. At higher Ranks Hog will either hide behind shields, corners, or just approach from anywhere thats not out in the open to close the gap. 20 meters isn't that short, and unless you avoid the hell out of the objective, you will have to eventually go into that range..
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>>381311554
Learn when to drop your shield and attack. Having a shield up is helpful, but there are situations where pumping out damage and killing people helps more. Especially when they're already in your face.
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>>381309281
Honestly, buffing him during his ult is deserved. He's a huge target during DIE DIE DIE, and it seems like he always gets picked off before it ended if the enemy had even the slightest coordination.
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>>381308619
thats because hog isnt an hard tank
he's just a big sack of fat ult feeder once his hook is in cooldown
and it's pretty bullshit that now I cant punish genji when he has the highest mobility and deflect.
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>>381311836
>he's just a big sack of fat ult feeder once his hook is in cooldown
It's a short cooldown and your right click can one-shot 200 hp hero at mid range. Sorry could*
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>>381311554
>>Crestfallen keanu
Kek
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>>381311836
I'm not sure why people say Ult Feeder like its a downside. He gains Ult pretty fucking fast due to his heal, and ontop of that he can charge up healers amazingly fast for the same reason.
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Roadhog main here so get ready for my shit opinion but i just think that its weird how, people will complain about the hook when most of the time they can get saved so easy, hell the ana bio nade will make sure you cant one shot a 200 hero.

also Hanzo can do more damage then Roadhog with unlimted ranged one shots AND he also has his E which is just a ranged shotgun blast which also kills most heroes in the game.

Im just guessing but maybe there is a reason the best players in the world are flanking dps mains
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>>381299713
>Roadniggers have to scratch someone before getting their instakill hook

Last I heard, you can still do about 170 damage with the hook, shot and melee combo. Is it really that hard just to pepper someone a little bit first?
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>>381303536
heh, simple geometry
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>>381312579
'Cause its not as easy to save people as you think. Theres a rather small window for people to act, and an equally small amount of heroes who actually can do anything to stop Hog from getting a kill.

The list is basically Ana if she gets a heal nade off in time, and its not intercepted or on cooldown. Zarya, if her bubble is off cooldown and finally Dva, assuming shes in range or has her dash off cooldown.

As for Hanzo, he has less health and his E is only a reliable kill on people who are very practiced with it. It can miss or not deal full damage if you're not.
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>>381305309
Tracer is really hard countered by Torb.
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>>381311554
you could just play a better game
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>>381312614
A lot of other classes can kill you during said "peppering" due to his hitbox
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>>381313518
>One of the most popular heroes is countered by a hero that might get you reported for throwing.
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>>381313607
>The highest skill cap hero gets shit on by the lowest
Its poetic.
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>>381313545
Name a more active, non-shit game in your opinion then.
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These comments in a nutshell
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>>381313591
If you can't inflict 30 damage on someone before they kill you, you deserve to lose.
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>>381313820
i hate how active community is so important

makes me feel fucking weak when i cant get into a game that has no community.
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>>381306364
>pick mercy
>nobody fucking dies together
>always 1 person dies then nobody protects me
>get flanked by 4 people from different directions
>kill 1 or 2 with my pistol die
>my entire team dies to a torb or an orisa 1v5

>pick ana
>everyone picks genji and fucking shit and goes into 5 random different hallways and breaks los constantly
>yells at me for not healing when there is like 5 walls between us

>pick rein
>hold my shield up trying to push forward
>nobody heals me
>nobody pushes with me
>ult hammer 5 people down
>nobody attacks with me just stands behind me hiding behind cover
>get a quad kill all by myself
>nobody pushes cart
>enemy team comes back
>1 by 1 they ult down on me and me alone
>my team switches off to attack symm, attack torb, attack orisa, attack lucio
>OMG REIN WHY IS YOUR SHIELD ALWAYS BROKEN AND THEIRS IS NOT
>GOD YOU FUCKING NOOB
>have like a 70% win rate with all my heroes
>still in gold
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Is McCree ult worth a shit now?
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>>381314560
You can use it to reload your gun now.
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>>381314704
It's something I suppose
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>>381305205
You run slower when moving backwards
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I always liked hog as a way to stop the cancer dive meta, since I would always shit on their tracer/genji/winston leaving the team to focus on bitch pharah.

Then again I quit this game about a week ago once I hit diamond after soloq being absolute cancer.
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>>381311382

>Play Zen
>Press E on hog
>Congratulations, hog is now useless
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His right click is way more useful now. Honestly it wasn't a huge nerf. Pretty balanced changes.

Plus I still do great with him.
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>>381317502
Also his hook is more for finishing off opponents now. Sort of like Pudge in Dota 2. Not saying its not meant for initiating either, but I like it this way.
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>>381299713
>The strongest counter to the anti-tank guy was a tank
>People are surprised he finally got nerfed

I will never understand how Roadhog was ever allowed to one-shot people as a tank, sheerly by virtue of what a tank is supposed to be.

I look forward to living in a world where Roadhog is expected to coordinate with his teammates like all the other tanks are. I hope they take this opportunity to buff him in ways that make him better at tanking.
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>>381303536
you need to aim about 1-2 meters in front of the model, if you hit him on the feet arrows will bounce away.
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>>381303536
It's has to be exactly at their feet. If they jump, it will miss. If you were to far off, it will miss. If you have ping, the game will decide its somewhere else and miss.
you need 2 of the scatter arrows to hit to kill a tracer, 3 to kill 200 hp, 4 to kill 250hp and 5-6 to be reasonably capable of killing a tank
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>>381299713
He's so fucking shit now I just can't believe it.
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>>381318141
Yeah. Roadhog's role was pretty baffling. Being able to one shot everything WHILE being able to absorb all attacks AND self-heal.
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>>381318586
B-but muh ult battery!
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>>381304709
You were so proud of your post you screencapped it, huh?
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