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Why do people consider these versions the best?

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Why do people consider these versions the best?
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>>381211594
Pokewalker was GOAT.
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They're 16-18 years old and grew up with these empty remakes instead of the original
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>>381211594
It was a mixture of the old and new. Gold/Silver were the bomb back then because for many people they were the perfect sequels to their favourite games, and they came before the timespan were Pokemon stories became over the top.

The remakes themselves were also good with great UI implementation of the DS.
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>>381211594
just a better version of the best game
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>>381211831
No rule that forbids Pokemon outside of /vp/, newfag.
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>>381211594
Lead Pokemon follows you around.
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>>381211594
>that level curve and gym leaders having nothing but kanto pokemon
I dunno, people are retarded i guess
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>>381211594
>Part of the best gen of Pokemon together with Platinum
>Tons of Pokemon and secrets to find, no other Pokemon game has come close to how fun it was to find some of the legendaries from other regions
>Events like the Celebi one and Giovanni, Spiky eared Pichu, Arceus egg and the Sinjoh ruins, and so on
>Last games to have the Battle Frontier
>Kanto wasn't as bare anymore and it was a fun and long post game
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>>381211594
Post-game

That's basically it. Gold/Silver/Crystal were already widely considered some of the best in the franchise, then HG/SS came along, took everything they had, and added some should-be-staple post-game features like a Frontier, decent Gym leader rematches, legendaries in tasteful locations (instead of that shit ORAS did) and so on.

Personally I don't really care that much about post-game as long as the game itself is good, but hardcore pokefaggots go on about it every day of the week so I can only assume that's why this game is held in such high regard
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>>381211594
I was always fond of amazing GSC/HGSS ost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAnBYBGEif0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jauAYIjYQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWeAd7Rhfog
Johto has great aesthetic I appreciate. Many good locations are condensed in a way people are wrapped in a blanket. Bonus points for the fact that most of the towns are close to each other (Ecruteak has FOUR neighbourhood towns).
Interface and menus are pleasant to look at. I love the green colour.
Pokemon following you is a gimmick I adore. I was pleasantly surprised with PokeRide in the newest games.
Pokewalker actually made me walk more outside.
And lastly - nostalgia and what that anon said >>381211972
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>>381211594
One of the last games, if not the last, that actually tried to make a full gameplay experience.
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>>381211972
Except for the game corner.
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>>381211879
The original games were just as empty. The remakes only intensified how flawed Gen II was.
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>>381213723
I always thought the original OST was way better, and disliked the HGSS remake.
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>>381214926
This sounds way better in remakes https://youtu.be/RdqNzFd86vc
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>>381215046
>Azalea Town
probably my favorite song in the original game, and my least favorite in hgss
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>>381213723
Yeah, I love both but HG/SS's soundfont is really great. It's much better than what they did to RSE's soundtrack
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>>381211594
they don't. Platinum is the best.
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>>381211594
The Player VS Red
Kanto and Johto regions
Gen 1 - 4 Pokemon
Pokewalker
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The same reason people consider all the other Pokemon games the best: they like them the most.
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>>381215428
You misspelled Emerald.

But in all seriousness, Platinum is a close second.
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>>381211594
Here's your answer. Kinda.
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If ORAS had emeralds battle frontier it would easily be considered the best game in the series
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>>381214926
>>381215317
All Pokemon remakes have a bunch of great pieces which are as good as (or even better than) their original ones. Of course this is just my opinion but I'm willing to give some examples for people's pleasure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQv9E8j_h7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i5PuoX4zcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBj_Tdw_7xE
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>>381215747
So it's true what /vp/ say, you only need to play Tajiri's, Morimoto's and Unno's games. The rest are pure garbage.
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>>381215792
And Gym Leader rematches. But look at it this way, ORAS being the best Pokemon games in years says a lot about how good the Hoenn games in general are.
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>>381215747
>letting go the genius that is satoshi tajiri to the person who made ruby/sapphire.
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>>381215908
>Morimoto, Kawachimaru, Ohmori
ftfy
You really would rather play the original Gen 1&2 over the remakes.
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>>381215747
It's a shame you can't buy Heart Gold and Soul Silver on the eshop-
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>>381216016
Pretty good decision
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>>381215908
That lines up with my taste. Do we know who's doing Ultimate Sun Moon?
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>>381216172
>Ohmori
You're joking, right?
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>>381215908
Platinum was alright as well, but pretty much.
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>>381211594
Because they take everything that was good about Gen 2, including Crystal, make it all better, and then add even more cool shit.

The only thing they don't do well is the music, but Gen 2's music was so amazing I'm not surprised they weren't able to improve on it as much as I hoped.

This is opposed to ORAS which dumbed down a lot of shit, added nothing of interest from Emerald, and also failed to build on the music of the generation it was based on.
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>>381216294
It's not gonna be masuda or omhori since there developing the switch Pokemon game.

It would be the B team of game freak

Who created
Emerald
Platinum
HG/SS
Black and white 2
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>>381216419
Of course not. ORAS are great, despite what the contrarians spewing their fake news claims. I didn't like Sun/Moon but that's because they were more of a linear, story-driven game and I like gameplay being the emphasis in Pokemon, but that said there are people that might actually like Sun/Moon's style.
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Did the new games do something to speed things up? Slow transitions and endlessly repeating animations is what kept me from Pokemon for a while.
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>>381216419
Omhori the one who created the pokewalker.

Dex nav

Soaring feature in oras

Pokeride

He has good ideas just doesn't understand pacing in a story
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>>381216642
Nigga, if everyone else hates ORAS, and even you don't like SUMO, how the fuck you gonna say his games are the ones you need to play?
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>>381216523
This post is all bullshit, especially the part of ORAS failing in the music department. ORAS soundtack is phenomenal, and even the original music they added is god-tier. People bitch all the time about HGSS butchering the soundtrack, which is that game's leading criticism aside from the ridiculous level curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn8_Q27WFY
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>>381216507
Platinum is ok too. I just really didn't like Pearl and Diamond. Do we know why Kawachimaru only directed one game? I think Platinum, altough an improvement, didn't sell well.
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>>381216821
I'm not saying he can't contribute, I'm saying he's a garbage director
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>>381216853
It probably didn't sell well cause everyone got diamond/pearl already, I doubt there's a lot of people that get more than 1 version.
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>>381216832
>posts the one good song

Like fucking clockwork. How about posting a song they didn't outsource? Like the completely butchered version of Route 113?
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>>381211594
It actually made me realize GS were kind of bad.
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>>381215883
Yeah, but they ruined my favourite piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3ZUBRfdKB8
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>>381216829
>if everyone else hates ORAS
They don't though? Go on YouTube videos and you'll see people saying how much they love them. Even on /vp/ there have been posts positive about ORAS cropping up recently.

The problem here is that you can't seem to differentiate being upset that ORAS didn't include elements from Emerald, and just flat out hating ORAS. I'm salty they didn't bring gym leader rematches or the Battle Frontier back, but I still like the game.
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>>381216629
>best games
>B team
Actually made me think.
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>>381216853
The "third" versions never sell well compared to the two versions released first. The business model created by releasing two versions at the same time generates sales that a single improved version can't compete with.

Which is probably why they're trying something new with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, which seems like a third version combined with the sales model of a regular two version release.
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>>381216832
>This post is all bullshit

How so? HGSS has everything that was included with Crystal and then some. What is the excuse for all of that great Emerald content being left out of ORAS?
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>>381217165
It is consistently, in all polls, one of the most hated games. It is the height of unhelpful contrarianism to tell people that Ohmori's games are must play.
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>>381216989
>one good song
Nice meme brah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbl6o9mGEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91tODLXipK4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA3mccI1DjY
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>>381217165
You're not really missing out on much if one decides to skip out on ORAS.
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>>381216989
>Route 113
>butchered
How is it possible to have such shitty taste?
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UI design. Best one yet. I can play with the stylus in one hand and mash L through dialogue with the other. Don't have to hold a button to run, and can tap to use bike and item finder.
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>>381211594
This generation was just the best one in general that did the most for the game series as a whole.
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>>381216832
Zinnia's theme is horrendously overrated and doesn't come close to the best themes in the series. Hell, Gen 6's entire soundtrack (including ORAS) is largely forgettable outside of that dive them, oh that shit speaks to me like no one else has.
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>>381217394
You're missing out on the best 3DS Pokemon game.
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>>381217359
God, I hate nu-male Maxie so much.
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>>381217308
OR AS is a remake of R/S not of emerald
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>>381217512
Ask yourself that question, regardless of whatever else you think Route 113 is one of the songs in ORAS that is almost universally condemned for being worse than the original. If you can seriously listen to both of those and say that the ORAS version is better than you've got problems.
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>>381217576
>Zinnia's theme is overrated but the DIVE FUCKING THEME is actually memorable
This is the most obvious bait I've seen all week.
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>>381211972
>The remakes themselves were also good with great UI implementation of the DS.
This. Best part about HGSS was the UI, which saved the remake of an otherwise mediocre generation.
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>>381211594
Black/White 1&2 are the best games in the franchise by far. Anyone who disagrees is just hanging on to nostalgia
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>>381217597
But how come that in every last poll it ranks at the bottom? Even here on an argentinian asado asado enthusiast board.
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>>381217694
You're trolling, right? It's universally praised. You're the only person so far that I've seen say it's worse than the original. E4, and Route 110 themes are the ones that get shit on. I really hope you're just trolling and your taste isn't that bad.
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>>381211594
Because they have no taste.
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>>381217656
>OR AS is a remake of R/S not of emerald

Yeah, but that's a shitty excuse because HGSS were remakes of Gold and Silver, but still included content from Crystal in addition to a lot of new shit.

If they overachieved on HGSS they should have been honest pre-release and downplayed people's expectations for ORAS. There wasn't a single person excited about those games that wasn't expecting content to be in.
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>>381217746
BW2 sure, BW1 no.
BW1 was missing everything BW2 filled in, including being able to fight all gym leaders e4 and champions.
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>>381217935
Its a remake of r/s. Stop expecting content from another game you moron
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>>381217746
>Gen 5 being anywhere near the best
That's some trash taste you got there friend. There is a reason why Gen 5 is the wrost selling Pokemon generation despite being on the best selling handheld: because they suck. Actually B2W2 is okay, but BW was bad and ruined that gen's reputation.
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>>381217597
USUM doesn't come out until November tho? Are you an insider :^)
anyways, that's really not saying a whole lot, considering what's currently out. XY had a strong beginning that dropped the ball hard, and SM pretty much was the opposite, because the late game portion was when they finally decided to let you play the game for an amount of time.
I played ORAS tho and was largely disappointed with it and no "muh batal fruntear" is the last thing on my list but I'm trying to play it again to form a new found appreciation for it.
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>>381217748
Fake news
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>>381218113
not to mention you have to play the shittier one for the full experience of the second one.
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>>381217710
>>Zinnia's theme is overrated

Are you saying it isn't? Because it is. If it wasn't outsourced to a fucking legend in the video game music industry I could see it being praised this much but it isn't even in the top 5 of Shimomura's best work.
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>>381218194
>anyways, that's really not saying a whole lot
It kind of is. Especially considering IMO Platinum is the best DS Pokemon game and D/P remakes will likely be on Switch, ORAS will keep that title.
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>>381217710
it is tho. Zinnia's theme is just a mishmash of flutes that don't even fit her character nor the tone that the music was giving you the entire way through. That dive theme is ace and is my favorite track of ORAS as it captures the mood of deep sea diving perfectly.
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>>381218341
i never liked zinnia's theme, what do people like about it? it is good sure, but nothing special.
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>>381216642
gen 3 was literally when the story started to slow Pokemon down though you retard gen 2 is the experience you are describing.
take your fucking goggles off gen 3 is OBJECTIVELY the WORST gen and I WILL prove it with science.
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>>381211594
I actually don't get why. I skipped gen 4 initially but bought HG while it was still in stores, and I really didn't enjoy it, to the point where I dropped it after a particularly bland gym. I just didn't like it, the Pokemon were the same dead looking cardboard, static images I disliked in gen 3 (not the same as the static ones in gen 1 and 2) and the world aside from that lovely autumn looking route felt kind of dead as well. Pokewalker was nice though.
Can't bring myself to sell the game despite not enjoying it much though.
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>>381211594
I'm wondering where the fuck Pokemon SunGold and MoonSilver are.
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>>381218341
Are you saying it isn't?
Yes. It's deserving of all the praise. If you don't think it's in the Top 5 or at the very least Top 10 I don't know what to tell you lad.
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>>381218097
didn't stop FRLG and HGSS adding content from another game you ORAS apologist.
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>>381218485
Gen 2 still sucks, though.
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>>381218390
He said 3DS. If you want to include DS, Platinum, BW2 and HGSS are all better games.
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>>381218219
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/02/poll_vote_for_your_favourite_main_series_pokemon_games_-_20th_anniversary_edition
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>>381215921
>ORAS being the best Pokemon games in years
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>>381218412
What? Zinnia's theme is literally her overworld theme with a faster pace. This is wrong on so many levels. If you like the Dive theme better that's fine, but you're out of your mind if you think that is more memorable to people than Zinna's theme.
>>381218485
Being this retarded. BW is where the series went onto this """"""story"""""" driven nonsense that is ruining the series.
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Because they have good taste.
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>>381218113
>BW was bad

The game had a decent story, satisfying endgame, and most importantly the best art/animation out of all pokemon games before they switched to shitty low-res 3-d models. It was anything but 'bad'
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>>381211975
>>381212078
/thread
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>play heartgold last year for the first time/second generation for the first time
>hey this games alright so far, pretty neat pokemon
>yeah man fuckin killin all these trainers left and right, got my team all set up too this is great
>oh man an ice area check out that pokemon, ima fuck it up
>oh wow a dragon gym trainer is the next one? thats gonna be tough i dont have much to deal with that really, oh well ill figure something out
>gym leaders pokemon are nearly 15 levels higher than my team

I fought and defeated every single trainer I saw in the game up to that point, I even went off the beaten path and retraced some steps to search places I couldn't earlier in the game before heading up to that ice place and then that dragon gym.

Seriously, that level difference is FUCKED and it's dragons.
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>>381218836
sprite animations in BW were fucking horrid
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>>381218836
>best art/animation out of all pokemon games before they switched to shitty low-res 3-d models
>liking Gen 5's horrible moving sprites

Good job invalidating everything else you said with your objectively terrible taste. Gen 5's sprites looked like hot garbage when they were new and haven't gotten better with age.
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>>381218647
Platinum I can agree on, and MAYBE B2W2 but not HGSS.
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>>381218980
How bad are you? i destroyed that gym with a piloswine i picked up and just evolved to mamoswine.
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>>381218720
Objective fact. XY are mediocre all around and Sun/Moon are more like interactive movies than games.
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>>381219142
SM are actual fun games with a lot of gameplay improvements and is actually fun to play.

Gen 6 is trash, both games.
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>>381218652
>BW, B2W2 are both lower than ORAS
Not that it really matters considering this is a poll from over a year ago.
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>>381219140

I already had my team set up way before that. I still beat it dude, I didn't say I didn't.

I was moreso saying the level difference was fucked even with me never running away from a trainer fight up to that point.
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>>381218980
Yeah it's great, Pokemon games are usually way too fucking easy.
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>>381211594
Quick design a hard mode for pokeman games that will make them fair but challenging ill start
>Item limits in battle
Ide say 1-3 items per battle should be fair.
>Make gym and other important trainers have high IVs and EVs
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>>381218981
>>381219016

Shit opinions. Can't believe people actually prefer the attack animations in the previous gens over gen 5's. Those games had animations that made it look like a goddamn powerpoint presentation compared to BW.
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>>381219226
Sun/Moon has the most barren postgame, a massive downgrade of the bottom screen use, the useless Battle Royale, and horrible FPS issues, AND Festival Plaza sucks. Just watch a walkthrough of it on YouTube because gameplay wise Sun/Moon is TRASH
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>>381219492
Your pokemon literally can't go above a certain level based on your badges.
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>>381219492

Limiting items solves nothing. Most people who play this can 1 to 2 shot the majority of gym trainer pokemon nowadays.
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>>381219492
Boss characters match the average of your party's levels.
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>>381219770
>Level 50+ starter Pokémon with 5 level 1s
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>>381219492

There is no way to make a pokemon game challenging without giving the AI unfair advantages, and when you do that it's guaranteed never to be fun.
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>>381218796
>>381218626
God save me /v/ if this thread live i will blow you out so fucking hard you will shit tears.
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>>381219850
Okay, then.
>ace always matches the highest level mon on your team
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>>381219492
You can't use more pokemon than your opponent. Excepting if it's a bad guy, but they will often gangbang you anyway.
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>>381218485
gen 3 was just right storywise
it all went to shit since team galactic
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>>381219492
Also, delete items in battle, the IA can't use it right and it's busted for the player even if limited.
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>>381219367
>Running from trainer battles
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>>381219492
they already did max ivs and evs in sunmoon and it was still piss easy
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>>381211594
HGSS had more of an "open" feel to it since there was less of an emphasis on story and more on exploring and collecting 'mons. That's why they make up one part of the holy trinity of pokemon games besides black and white 2 and platinum.
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>>381220718

Running away as in avoiding them.
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>>381211594

Because they haven't played it beyond the initial run and nostalgia is filling in the blanks.
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>>381221770
>/vp/ hasn't replayed hgss
nigga come on
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>>381218980
>just somewhat rush through the game to elite four
>my pokemons do not have any space on skin left for more Full Restore injections or space in belly for another Revive

some people complain about low difficulty, some about level curve, perhaps it was intentional even if shit by design
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>>381222017
>/vp/ actually playing videogames
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>>381220951
without level scaling that's shit
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>>381222337
after ecruteak it's a mess
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>>381211594
The Pokeathlon is my favorite side activity in Pokemon games
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>>381222017

You'd be surprised.
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>>381222446
i fucking loved that shit and got all the medals and doors open. fuck yeah!
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>>381218485
>>381218626
>>381218796
>>381220154
Here it is, my scientific study on gen 3 and why its objective the worst generation to ever show is pathetic face into the franchise. The first analysis I will make is the time period.

Gen 3 came out when pokemon was doing nothing but promising improvements. Gen 2 improved a shitload on the core franchise, added a SHITLOAD of new features, and the ability of course to trade your old pokemans over, making the second half of the game all the more better. It may have had a weaker map than the first one and kanto was indeed watered down, but it was on a fucking tamagotchi console for gods sake.

Let us look at the features that were ruined or changed or even straight up removed because game freak sucks.
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>>381223016
1: Backwards compatibility. An ESSENTIAL fucking core to the series when your franchise has the fucking slogan "GOTTA CATCH EM ALL" and the only way to ACTUALLY beat pokemon is dex filling. If you did not complete your dex you definitively never beat that game. You never did factually. The point of pokemon is catching them all. Its literally what its marketing is based off of. A shitload of different creatures. You may enjoy fighting with your favorites more, but the core heart of the game is collecting these monsters to begin with.
Removing this is the shittiest thing you could ever fucking do to a pokemon game you LOCK OUT beating the fucking game. How awful is that?
Not only this, we didn't even get the chance to beat the games without cheating until WELL INTO the fourth fucking generation. Absolute horse shit.
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>>381223118
2: Breeding. This alone should be enough to turn you away. The only way i can get a decent pokemon is spending an impossible amount of autism because the game designers PURPOSELY don't want you to have perfect pokemon. You will always have a pokemon who is fucked in some way unless you cheat. This is ESPECIALLY BAD in the third generation. Moves, ability, nature, gender, IVS, EVS. Al of this is a fucking clusterfuck of a breeding mechanic guaranteeing you'll never get what you actually fucking want even when you DEDICATE to fairly breeding for it months upon end. The later generations at least see they fucked up and tried to make it better, taking until the 6th generation to give us something that is actually not hair pulling tedious and frustrating. Nothing about breeding requires skill. It is like a chore, not a game. Everything is simply to understand and implement, it just take forever because of bullshit RNG and lack of control you are at the mercy of RNG. Breeding in gen 2 was much better. I put a couple pokemon in and they fuck i get a pokemon of the gender i want and name it. Boom. I don't disagree with deeper breeding mechanics but literally all they needed to add were EVS and nature. IV makes this shit ridiculous and its a completely unnecessary aspect to the game as a whole. Its INVISIBLE AND COMPLETELY DETERMINABLE TO THE STATS OF YOUR POKEMON. PEOPLE THINK THIS IS GREAT. GAMEFREAK DIDNT ADD IT TO ADD DEPTH THEY LITERALLY DID IT BECAUSE THEY DIDNT WANT ANY POKEMON OF THE SAME SPECIES TO BE THE SAME ONLY TO STILL HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

Those two reasons alone should be enough to objectively rule the third gen worst gen but I'll go a little bit further.
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>>381211594
I always thought people made HeartGold threads because it shares initials with a certain type of banned thread. At least, that's what my experience with /vp/ taught me.
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>>381211831
/vp/ is too busy pulling a /vg/ that if you try actually talking about the game you'll get three people that discuss it as everyone else either waifupost or throw temper tantrums over people having actual discussion instead of waifuposting.
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What is even the point of IVs besides wasting your fucking time?
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>>381223228
Music: Shitty, gen 4 and completely trumped it on every level and gen 2 and 1 had wfar more wel composed tracks. All there needs to be fucking said. Listed to the battle themes between the first two gens and the third, completes garbage in comparison. Compare the more relaxing melodies in gen four like eterna forest, floraoma, or Eterna City or route 209, route 228, I literally could go on and almost every single song in the first two gens is very well done especially compared to the ""adventurous"" farts that is the 3rd gen ost.

The rivals: Everyone knows what went wrong here and it has never been good since the first two. Moving on.

The story: Really corny and gets in the way of the gameplay. First ones didn't have this kind of issue like the third gen introduced. It makes gen four slower but everything else in that generation, especially platinum, made it the better game all around.

Gen 1 set the stage atmosphere and design philosophy, Gen four and those beyond perfected everything aside from breeding, it had online and brought back backwards compatibility so I wouldn't have to go through that awful shitstorm that is the third gen. Every other gen after the fourth is basically a streamlined fourth gen though xy and sm were less good storywise but had better breeding mechanics so there you go.
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>>381223327
"""""""""unique""""""""" pokemon
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gen2 had the best zone and hgss added the endgame content it sorely missed
plus gen4 had the best mechanics. finally brought all of the base gameplay to where it should have been right from the beginning (stats, natures, abilities, phys/spec move split) without adding on all the bloat mechanics like megas and whatever else the newest gens have added
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>>381223476
Yeah, with all but one brand of "unique" belonging in the dumpster.
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>>381211594
I dunno. It was pretty bland, I hate remakes. Defeats the whole purpose of buying a new Pokemon game for me since I only really go through the sameness of Pokemon for the new Pokemon designs. I enjoyed SM more than HGSS as a comparison (although not XY, the new designs there were mediocre for the most part).
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>>381211594
Nostalgia.
That's it.

Looking at the game from an objective stand point it's a pretty poor game where it's "content" was just shoved in without a care.
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>>381223529
This. HG/SS may not be the best or everyone's favorite, but it was pinnacle Pokemon before they started adding other things to it. Not that I hate the newer games (B/W and B2/W2 are fun) but as far as perfecting the formula, HG/SS and Plat were perfect.
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>>381215683
Where did you get that key chain my man
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>>381223228

You realize that IV's existed since Gen 1 and 2?

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values
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>>381216205
just get a flashcart or emulate it.
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>>381211594
>Nice soundtrack
>The redesign of Gold, Ethan, looked pretty nice.
>Expanded on the original games with features like the Pokémon Follow Me, Pokeathlon and Battle Frontier
>Kept the Gym Rematches trend of Emerald and Platinum
>Extra development for Giovanni and Silver, the Celebi Time Travelling event was pretty nice and the double battle against Clair and Lance in Dragon's Den was unforgettable.
>Reworked design of Mt. Silver that was prettier than the original
>The mother fucking GB Player was 10/10
>The UI was nice and useful.
>Included legendary Pokémon in areas where they fit like the birds and Mewtwo.
Those are the reasons I personally loved them.
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>>381217889
Count me in as a second person to say ORAS arranges of the RSE soundtrack are underwhelming. The battle tracks are especially disappointing, it feels like they focus on the main melody and percussion only while throwing away everything else about the tracks that was interesting (and sometimes they fail even with the main melody, like the Magma/Aqua Grunt battle). The only battle arrange that rivals what FRLG and HGSS did to their respective originals is Vs Maxie/Archie. The route/town arranges range from ok to meh, but none of them do anything notable. There's a general lack of ambition and a feeling of just phoning it in that plagues the ORAS soundtrack. Even completely new tracks like the Wally fight are just 50-second loops that you get tired of before the battle is over.
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GB Sounds made me dislike the game a bit once I got the item. All this hubbub about item that lets you hear the original game soundtrack. Instead they butcher the old songs with shit midi.

How it should sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNHlJ6yvEA

What you get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCHmkt9jvU

Even the rearranged music is mediocre in my opinion.

Same song in FRLG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQxXjR0bEMI

The HGSS version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jauAYIjYQk

That's just my opinion though. Still a 8/10 game for me.
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>>381215792
I hate this "they should have had the Battle Frontier" meme. Why the fuck would you miss this garbage? I'd rather just go gambling.
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>>381228372
At least post a better quality upload of the GSC version if you want to compare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG0-UMOljBU
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>>381228372
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>>381228372
I think this is more a problem with the DS than anything. I've come to realize that the DS has a terrible soundchip.
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play sacred gold or storm silver instead.

much better versions of the game.
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>>381217181
B is for Best.
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>>381215747
ohmori should kill himself. what a loser.
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>>381229120
While I actually love Emerald. I have to admit the Battle Frontier is only good for cloning Pokemon.

The Platinum Battle Frontier is GOAT though.
Just listen to this shit and try not to get hyped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSDnyVq0kao
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>>381211594
>Adds more fucking dialog and sidequest busywork
>Forces you to get the legendary
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>>381211831
fuck off newfag
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>>381231374
>Forces you to get the legendary
That is the thing that pisses me off the most.
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>>381230984
>Silver
Cuck much? Secondary versions are for betas.
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>>381231374
Why is that phox so angery?
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>>381231728
His trainer didn't give him his dose of daily cum.
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>>381215747
>Satoshi and Shegeki are the truest niggas with it comes to the pokemon series.

Aint that some shit.
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i came to this thread for the porn. where is it?
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>>381231606
>Having Not!Moltres as your legendary instead of fucking Lugia.

You are the true cuckold
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>>381214843
Gen II are the only good games on the entire series though
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>>381232008
No!
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>>381211594
Most content, even if a disappointing amount of it was locked behind events, great graphics, Pokemon following you around, great two region game.

Only other game on that level is Emerald.
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Why is Crystal not being re-released on Virtual Console?
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When a pokemon region is not Japan-related, it's shit.
Like the pokemon games after the 5th gen.
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>>381211594
They're fucking retarded. Gold and Silver were fucking perfect but their remakes are an abomination that slaps all the things wrong with nu-pokemon with the perfection that was generation 2. They might have better visuals and more shit to do, but the very presence of the newer and shitty overdesigned pieces of shit and the existence of meme features outright ruins the experience.

It's another instance of Nintendo raping a corpse and sullying the memory of the good old days, which is why we have the revisionists heralding this game as one of the best even though it was absolute garbage.
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