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FF:XIV Stormblood

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So now that everything's stabilized hows everyone enjoying stormblood? What's you're favorite zone?
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I was expecting Hien to be kind of a faggot but then you actually meet him and he's a pretty cool guy.
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>RDM quest
>one of the dialogue options is does a girl have a name
Fuuuck off.
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>an unexpected error happened
>dx11
>game crashes
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>>381182571
arya a cute
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*nods*
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>>381182290
>So now that everything's stabilized hows everyone enjoying stormblood?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Estinten just stabs the fuck out of both Nidhogg's eyes at the end of SB
if we did that in the first place none of this would've happened
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>>381182290
it's good
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I'm really enjoying SAM, probably a little too much.
It's making me relive my old weeb days, I've been yelling out japanese phrases, targeting dishonorabu NIN in frontlines especially, and just all around weebing out.
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>mfw doing the 30-50 dragoon job quests after completing Stormblood
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>in an alternate universe Squeenix released a stable Stormblood with no 90ks of the sort
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>It's a "do a loop around the fucking world" aether current episode
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>>381183161
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The writing for the most part is better than anything we got in ARR or HW
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>>381183329
The character development is actually surprisingly good.
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If your not at endgame yet then when you get to the ex primal, please watch a ducking guide.
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>Rdm single target is really fun
>aoe is mash scatter and sometimes press moulinette

What happened?
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>>381183195
is that alternative universe called japan
not one of those "SE ONLY CARES ABOUT JAPANESE" posts, but aside from duty finder being fucked up for the first couple of hours or the Susanoo thing everything has been fine
>>381183221
>that one current on top of the wall of the Lochs
at least SB zone design is less fucked up than HW for the most part
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Monk is unironically top DPS again.
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>>381182290
>xpac isnt even out yet
>already know the RDM rotation to perfection

I honestly feel like it's just me though and im baffled because it's pretty simolistic but no apparently not because one friend was using scatter single target to setup dualcasts and another was wondering why the fuck "the white magic casts so slow" when in fact he was just not using dualcast at all
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>tfw AST is pretty fun
It's a shame SCH died for this but I believe in the heart of the cards now.
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LYSE A S H I T

ARYA BEST GIRL
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>>381183608
Shut your mouth. I don't want to hear such lies after I dropped monk for astrologian
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>>381182571
There's more GoT references than that man. Get ready/
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>>381183667
Whoa
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>>381183537
JP/EU haven't had nearly as many issues as the NA data centers have had.

who Odin here
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>>381183509
AoE rotations arent meant to be hard

The only issue i have is that it's slightly awkward because moulinet is a melee skill and scatter is not
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BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
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is Odin trial solo-able by lvl 64 DRG? i want his armor set for non-tank classes
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>>381183667
Midlanders always best girls. Can catgirls even compete?
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>>381183608

But it's not, SAM is.
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>>381183608
Do tell me more.
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>>381183435
Funnily enough I had a tank threaten to kick anyone who didn't watch a guide for a story dungeon. I lied, and a RDM got kicked out.
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>>381183717
It's not a lie, anon. Even with Brotherhood being garbo we're #1.
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>Meditate
Who approved of this garbage?
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is it just me or did they really gimp ninja for pvp
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>>381183608
I abandoned MNK after 2 years of playing it for SAM and this is what I get?
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Are there any welfare level 70 accessories? Don't want to waste my tomes for them and dungeons aren't really favoring me drop-wise
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>>381183667
>RDM questline
>boring as fuck
>muh blood magic fencer
>suddenly Arya
The only redeeming quality of the questline. Too bad WoL will forever remain a perma-virgin.
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>>381183938
but SAM is lowest dps LOL
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>>381183931
everyone got shafted except ast
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>>381183816
That's why Lyse and Minfillia had to have Midlander models, they knew no one would care about these chicks if they were actually highlander women.
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>>381183931
No idea anon, I'm too busy having a blast as DRK in PvP
>ranged pull for drawing people into your allied blobs
>stun and leap as well
>mitigation out the ass with added Blackest Night
>occasionally Bloodspiller for burst and silence
Shits great
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>>381184086
and BRD.
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>>381183608
I genuinely hope this is true just to take a big dump on all that pre-release autism.
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>>381183653
I keep switching between my WHM and AST. I really enjoy both for different reasons. If plenary indulgence gets fixed in 4.1 I'll be really pretty satisfied with the job.

>getting big dick heals and pretty respectable healer DPS with WHM feels amazing
>getting multiple aoe balances in a row with AST feels amazing

I wish the healers weren't so much fun, I try playing DPS and Tank and end up bored within an hour
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>>381183608
Source? Lemme see those parsers.
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>>381184086
MCH is unlordly but that's a trade secret. You'll be complaining about them more in a few weeks
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>>381183931
Don't know. I can beat everything except tanks and the new jobs in 1on1
Especially Samurais are damn tough to kill
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>>381183509
DRG AoE used to be heavy thrust then ring of thorns then just spam doom spike until out of TP
at least, that's how I did it, and assuming there are only three enemies you can still dualcast verthunder/veraero like normal because it's the same damage and probably more mana than fishing for scatter proc
>>381183651
if you know it to perfection, am I supposed to end up using one of verflare/verholy more than the other? I mean, when my first finisher was a verflare I end up using it a lot more than verholy for the rest of the fight
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>>381184194
I was SCH in Heavensward so I decided to try AST since SCH feels ruined. Shit's been fun but I'm just 62 so far, the Earthly Dominance ability is really cool though.
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>>381184194
I really want to try out AST because I like the concept and found SCH too boring but I'm worried it's going to get nerfed to shit.
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>>381184295
It won't be nerfed, they'll buff the other healers
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>>381183818
That's incorrect anon.
MNK has higher DPS.

>>381183838
Turns out that Riddle reduces you based on your current GCD and so rather than removing GL3 it works out to a -5% speed decrease. It also lets you unironically double weave all your OGCDs except Forbidden Chakra during the duration because of animation changes.

Furthermore, Brotherhood may be terrible for us because of the lack of getting the 5% buff ourselves, but in an 8 man you're basically guaranteed two FC during each one with riddle up for both.

Fists of Earth is the hidden OP shit. That is such a good skill.

tl;dr, Sam has higher skill potencies, but because of RoF and our autoattack delay we still stomp them.
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>>381184261
Depends on procs really, like everything about the class.
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>>381184245
>when you counter a limit break as samurai
Samurai can 1v1 any class except for healers
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>>381184283
Yeah earthly dominance and its animations alone are making me sway to the AST side of things. I just wish their AF3 gear looked better on male characters.

>>381184295
May as well try it. It likely will be toned down in an upcoming patch but avoiding it on the off chance it gets ruined seems a bit paranoid. Once you have it at 50 you'll definitely have a really good feel for how the kit works so it shouldn't be a huge investment to get it there too.
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does ACT work yet?
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>>381184245
>>381184117
its fucking dumb
>can't hide freely
>dont even get ninjutsu anymore, have to make the bar fill up
>which also means no huton
>1 2 3 and maybe a jugulate or mug here and there
>???
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>Lyse
>Fordola
>Yotsuyu
>Yugiri
>The Princess Twins
>all before level 64
SQUARE PLEASE. MY DICK CAN'T HANDLE ALL THESE WAIFUS
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>Sleeve draw
>50% + AOE
>Ewer
>Ewer
>Lady of Crowns
Let me click this shit off
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>>381184487
>Samurai can 1v1 any class
Not DRK, that shield and stun is bonker against SAM
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>>381184261
It depends on procs. When you get to 65/65 ish you need to start planning out your next ~5 gcd's and aim for 80/85ish or 85ish/80. Remember that you can hold fire/stone procs for like 40 seconds as long as you don't press the aero/thunder that gives the proc you are holding.
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>>381182431
>expect him to be brooding and slow to want to go back to Doma based off of what Yugiri said about him
>lol he's actually been planning to participate in a battle royale as an excuse to recruit an army of Au Ra warriors along for the ride

Given his seiyuu's tendency to get roped into hot-blooded leader roles, that certainly left a good impression.
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>>381184587
You have Undraw.
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>>381184565
>can't romance any of them
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>>381184587
Undraw exists to replace unclicking.

You'll only get bamboozled on your spread card now
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What's the tomestone gearing order? Weapon first?
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>>381184443
So is theory crafting all you have to back yourself up?

No hard numbers or videos of you playing as a MNK to prove your point?
Or will you just shout pointless rhetoric to abide your point?
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Are the NPCs in oriens based on your grand company? I just realized there's a ton of storm officers/soldiers around it
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>>381184668
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>>381184563
samefagging because im that mad
its like im playing without a fucking job crystal i only get to be a ninja when my gauge is filled every once in a while

what the fuck
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I'm more happy with the tank changes than I thought I'd be,
having tried drk yet though so who knows
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>>381183931
nope
much easier to get a battle fever now
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>>381184590
Tanks are easy as sin for samurai to beat, and even easier to run from
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>ending
HOW THE FUCK ARE THOSE TWO STILL ALIVE
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>>381184443

This is false unless you can show parses, which you can not because
ACT plug in is currently bugged and doesn't track samurais completely massive dot. Even with the dot not being shown samurai is still about to hold just under 4k on a dummy for around 3 minutes which is exactly what monk is able to hold also.
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>>381183329
They've found a reasonable middle ground between needs must and more modern speech. I found myself skipping less dialogue in this expansion than in the previous arcs. The bongs also stayed pretty good even if we lost Aymeric's lines.
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>>381184741
Left Side then Right, weapon first unless you can get a piece of left gear and it'll still take the same amount of weeks of collecting tomes to get your weapon.
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>SB is actually the Hyur expansion.
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Can SAM use the 50% buff on its dot?
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Why is Fordola so cute? Why can't I just join her side or give her the dick until she joins mine?
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I like the little things that SB added to this game such as the dialogue gets changed a bit if you're a nin and doing all of Yanix.
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>>381184856
you can run away yeah but you can't really kill DRK if they have their CDs and aren't compelete retard, if trade with them they will win eventually cause soul eater + shield and stun to interrupt your iaido
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>>381184964

yes
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>>381184867
They know how to rebuild themselves like Dr. Manhattan.
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>>381184563
Least you're not boggle down by that retarded pvp trait where if you had a poison stance up that it greatly lowered your movement.
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>>381184965
TRAITOR
K I N S L A Y E R
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>>381184867
I can understand the one that was shot with a peashooter being alive, but it was pretty ridiculous for the one being slashed
hope we see them in 4.1
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>>381185160
>not wanting to join the empire by this point
Imagine what Zenos and the WoL could do together and all he has to do is give me Fordola
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>>381184996
Not him, but does that mean that the ticks that come from the dot are increased?
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>>381185374

Yep, the dot is extremely strong.
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Am I just not geared or is everything in the lvl 70 dungeons supposed to hit like a fucking truck even with a CD, I'm in my 290 job gear.
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>>381185160
delet this
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>tfw AST main
>but really digging RDM
>don't know which one to use for MSQ

SEND HELP
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>>381185564
RDM because it'll be easier then use armory bonus + dungeons to level AST.

Keep AST relevant for queues though.
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>>381183127
Pretty much. When I heard the guy say throw off the cliff, I I was like welp not the last time we see those
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>>381185470
That's just a hard hitting dungeon.
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>>381182290
Is this a good time to get into to the game? I have zero friends who play it so will that be a problem or is groups good?
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>>381185470
Around doma castle the incoming damage starts to ramp up pretty sharply. From a healer point of view it looks deliberate.
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>>381185564
Go healer since queues are absolutely fucked right now and you'll probably have to do a bit of catch up leveling during the msq, level RDM once people start moving back to their mains and they go down a bit I started out SAM and stopped as soon as I had to deal with the queue times
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>cant access character information due to server congestion

i bet the nips dont have to deal with this shit
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>>381185736
The secret is
>Do MSQ as DPS till you hit a dungeon queue
>Catch healer/tank up with dungeons/potd/pvp for the queue
>Rinse/Repeat
You get both jobs up around the same time and get to skip out on the queue.
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>>381185694
Tons of new players will be joining with you, so yes. Having no friends isn't a problem, you'll get hit up for a fc immediately and will never have a shortage of people you can ask to run stuff with.
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>>381185764
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>>381185764
Yes they do. Once you're in everything works fine, but there's no way around login shit unless you get on in the morning.
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>Going into endgame dungeons and trails without doing your job quest
But why?
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>>381183608
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did preorder items get distributed yet? waiting on EXP earrings
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>>381185694
>I have zero friends who play it so will that be a problem or is groups good?
Half the game is single player, you'll have to play thorough the base game and HW expansion before you even get to the current content so playing solo is actually fine. Dungeons and stuff are all done through a queue so you don't have to worry about finding people and old story content is constantly ran since max level players have a queue for it that gives them a bonus.
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>>381185906
I got mine in the mail this morning.
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>>381185826
That's still grinding 2 classes, I'd rather just get my main to max quicker then start grinding out the others
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>>381184936
Hyur and Lizards, aka the two best races.
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>>381185906
If you have your SB main game code you can apply it then get the rewards.
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>>381185861

>>381185880
a few months ago i transferred to balmung but never actually logged in. i guess i'm SOL now huh
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What's the flashiest shit you can do as RDM?

>Fleche into Corps a Corps
>Displacement into Verflare/holy

I feel so cool doing this. Only got to mess around with Verflare/holy via PVP though so I don't know how Contre Sixte looks yet
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So now that pre order stuff has come in, how do I redeem my collectors edition stuff?
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Why are ala mhiggers the worst people? Just look at lyse
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If I start the free trial on steam, I have to buy the game+explanations from there too, right? And I'm guessing it's better to go the standalone client for sales?
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>>381186074
Get a free transfer back to a normal server.
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>>381186175
Because the empire is actually the good guys just trying to bring magic and technological progress to the savages
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Zeno's VA is so fucking good holy shit
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>>381186146
Actually I'm not sure if Fleche into Corps a Corps or Fleche into Displacement looks cooler

>summon rapiers
>rush in as they zoom in to impale the targets

or

>summon rapiers
>jump back as they fly forward
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>>381186261
His Japanese one, yeah.
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>>381186181
Literally no advantage to either, but you might want to go steam to pick up base game on sale since it's frequently discounted and summer sale is most likely within the next week
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>>381186237
it was only a level 5 character so it doesn't bother me much

is there some secret golden time for me to login, or, am i fugged
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>>381186181
>>381186348
Also your sub can be paid through steam wallet if you buy on steam
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>>381186334
>using the inferior audio
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>>381186146
melee combo->displacement->fleche>corps a corps
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The more I play Monk the more upset I get, all retarded cuckshed memes aside, seriously what were they thinking? Riddle of Earth is garbage and no skill should exist in this game that requires you to be hit unless you're a tank
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>>381186334
Easy weeb, his English VA is great.
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>>381186371
it's only congested right now because early access + Stormblood launch

a week from now it'll be normal
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>>381185470
>>381185674
I quadruple pulled in the Ala Mhigo dungeon as PLD when i could
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>>381186424
>being eop and trusting koji's translation
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>>381184965
How many Garlean shatfs was she forced to polish?

and when will she polish mine?
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>>381186427
but if you do flech before displacement you jump back as the rapiers fly out rather than jumping back and summoning the rapiers
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>>381186424
>>381186445
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>>381186445
and JP VA is greater overall
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>>381186490
>turned hauchenfaunt from a perverted nutjob to a well meaning bro

Translation is fine, weeb.
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>>381186334
The English one is a million times better, faggot
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I hate how underused the time travel aspect of the echo is used. Every expansion the time travel is only used sparingly and then forgotten for the rest of the patches.
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>>381186602
>wanting FFXIV: Warlords of Draenor
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>>381186535
Nice argument, here's mine.
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>>381186592
Whoa don't get touchy, normalfriend.
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>>381186648
You're going to have to explain this to me, because I never played WoW.
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>>381186586
>he likes having inaccurate shit fed to him
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>>381186724
It was an expansion about traveling back in time. It was hot ass garbage.
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>>381186737
>he likes having actual shit fed to him
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>>381186515
>How many Garlean shatfs was she forced to polish?
None she was raised as a full citizen and willingly joined the military, ala mhiggers are the ones in the wrong here for hating her
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>>381186787
You're literally eating the bastardized translation of the game and claiming it's better, how fucking retarded can you get? How do you enjoy having no idea what's actually happening?
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So Yojimbo was a dungeon boss. Shame.
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>>381186648
Don't respond to the time travel shitposter.
>>381186787
And you stop responding to weeb cancer.
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>>381186917
>Change VA to Japanese
>Still have to inhale the same Koji trash because the dialogue doesn't change
Wowee
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>>381184965
I bet she couldn't turn down any imperial soldier that wanted to fuck
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>>381186772
In terms of the story?
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>can't see AST cards anymore
Who approved this shit? I can't call out retards on spreading spears and ewers anymore
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>>381186947
Anti-weebs are the most cancerous thing on this website. Literally worse than /pol/
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>>381186962
Stop being an eop, learn japanese, there's plenty of resources online or if that's too hard for you uni's and cc's often have open enrollment in the summers for stuff like languages
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>>381187065
Yes, time travel plots are stupid.
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>>381187073
You can still see them when they're played. I'm only mad because this needs even more co-operation in AST/AST situations
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>>381185837
>>381185968
Thanks for the info guys, sounds like I'll be getting it. Really been wanting to get into a new MMO since WoW is getting stale again.

Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a pain to get into for new players.
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>>381187031
She's would have been above most imperials still so no way a common soldier has ever ordered her around the only one she's fucking is me until she joins the scions
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>>381187065
The whole expansion was a mess. The only saving grace is that the final raid was actually kind of decent during progression. The story was stupid and full of holes as well.
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>>381187154
Since the game is heavily story based pretty much everything in it is designed to make sure new players have an easy time adjusting.
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>>381187154
It's not a pain from a population standpoint however prepare yourself because unlike WoW, FFXIV has you play every patches story arc from launch leading up to the current story. It's a lot to digest and if you try to burn through it you'll just quit.
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>>381185489
Holy shit! Looks like I need to hurry up and finish the MS-
>System error has occurred during event movement.

AEEEEEETHERRRRRRRR!
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>xiv keeps getting bigger in japan
>still no decent doujins
JUST
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>>381187138
I'm aware. There's no excuse though, knowing what ast has in stock is kind of important to me, regardless of what class I play
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>>381187084
>learn japanese, there's plenty of resources online or if that's too hard for you
I wonder who's behind this post.
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>take a shit
>foxy lady spawn
>by the time i reach her she's dead
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>>381187427
I got a minor for it when I was in uni and I still study outside of it, not everyone is a brainlet unable to learn like you
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>WHM story is holding hands with Sylphie

Am I skipping this shit?
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>>381187528
Feel free to tell us all those enormous plot differences.
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>>381187638
It becomes more about a mother letting go of her daughter.
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>>381187528
*tips trilby*
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>doing the thing with yugiri
>she mentions i'm a shinobi and oboro would be proud
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>>381187638
Sylphie is relevant again in the 60-70 WHM job quests?
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>>381187745
Unfortunately, yes.
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>Garleans have better enhancement technology than the fucking Allagans
Mhmm.
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>leveling paladin as my second job after doing the msq with bard
>earning 100k experience per minute in dungeons

Time to level up every tank and healer before I even think about doing a second dps.
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>>381187791
Garleans are the good guys just trying to bring civilization to the savages across the world
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>>381187802
>>earning 100k experience per minute in dungeons
Explain
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>>381187849
By creating biological monstrosities with abducted citizens.
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>>381187882

Spam Shisui you can chain pull pretty hard
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>>381187882
same level dungeons average 2.5 million experience and can be done in 25 minutes.
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WoL romance questline when?
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>>381187791
most of the Garlean's shit is stuff they reverse engineered or just outright used from the Allagans

They're just mad they're magic retarded so everyone who can use magic is a filthy savage
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>>381187709
You sure got me anon
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Did you just call me fat
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>>381187965
But both Xande and Zenos are enhanced, and only one of the two spanks our asses twice.
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So where do you get faster mount speed in the new 4.0 zones? Hunts?
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>>381188009
From the (you) you just gave me it looks like I did. I'll be on my way now. See ya faggot.
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>>381187961
never because WoL is cursed forever to be a virgin
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>>381188135
See ya anon stay proud of you're ignorance
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>Durium Foil
This is one jank looking rapier.
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>>381187961
It would have to be nobody npcs because the story ones will end up dead at some point
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any other lvl 70 sams out there? want to see what the avg dps is, i'm i302 and i'm hitting 3624 dps on the new sss dummy (dots dont work on act atm)
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>>381188238
What's the best looking Rapier in your opinion?

>No ARR or Makai PVP Rapiers or Katanas
>no Coil Rapiers or Katanas

boo
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>>381187961
Romance Fordola when? also never this was literally an april fools joke by them one time
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>>381188348
That I've seen so far, probably Rapier of the Round. Although I'm pretty fond of the simpler design most of the crafted rapiers have.
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>>381188348
>no grand company weapons for the new classes
They really got lazy
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>>381188360
>>381184965
>She will never hate fuck you with that face
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>>381188402
I kind of really wanna get the Shiva Rapier (that or the Lore one depending on which looks better). I'm not sure if I actually want the upgraded shiva rapier since the glowing ice might be a bit too much.

It looks like it goes well with Fleche since it summons ice rapiers
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Just finished Susano NM as PLD. Did they raise the damage that you take as MT during boss fights? I'm full i270 and it seemed like you needed a heal after each auto attacks. Also that full party AOE seemed to be giving the healers a hard time. I get the feeling I was just running with shitty healers, so does anyone know if they made bosses hit harder this expansion?
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>>381188523
I should take another look at the Primal rapiers. Also, I really like Murgleis. But this thing...
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>>381188634
Yes, everything in general hits harder.
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>>381188634
I had the same impression. Even with Sheltron+Rampart, the Storm Splitter or whatever his tankbuster is called hit pretty hard.
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When can you purchase houses in Shriogane?
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For any culinarians who have leveled up a bit, are there any of your levequests or collectibles that need fish to make? trying to find out what people are going to need to buy up early
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>doing Zekkl quest
>fagfaces keep triggering their mobs then letting them aggro me so I end up with 5 fuckers killing me to death
>999g teleport cost
>2 minutes of swimming through FUCKING NOTHING WHY IS THIS USELESS SHIT IN THE GAME
PLATINUM MAD
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Hey /v/, we had a rocky start to the EA but things are starting to pick up now. I've been experiencing SB slowly but I gotta say it's great, and as I sit int he DPS queue for Susano I just wanted to share a story with you guys, really selfishly just to help me.

Me and my brother started out FFXIV playing in the beta for 2.0. we went through everything together and it was our game. We were all hyped and ready for SB to hit we had both preordered it and everything. He was gonna play SAM and I was gonna play RDM and we'd suffer through the DPS queues together.

Unfortunately in March I lost my brother quickly and unexpectedly. I had mixed feelings about returning to FFXIV as it really seemed like it wouldn't be the same. As time passed I felt though that it'd be best if I did. I felt I could honor him the only way I knew how. So I started in EA and am going through SB as a Samurai, doing for him what he can't. I have to say, the expansion is amazing so far and aside from the instance hiccups I haven't been disappointed. Samurai is good fun and I feel like somehow we're kind of going through it together still.

I'm not looking for pity or anything, but I felt like sharing our story would help me with my own healing process, and I hope you all are enjoying the expansion as well.
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>Good characters die
>Lyse is still alive despite having no positive qualities whatsoever

I'd take minfilia and thancred back if it just meant this bitch would go away.
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>>381188896
This tastes like Reddit.
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>>381188929
but the only characters that died were Conrad and that other guy
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>>381188985
Zenos died and he was easily the best character
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>Fate of Stars plays for the final SMN job quest instance

That was pretty hype.
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>>381188929
Yeah. I've never been a fan of her character and this expansion featuring so much of such a shit character is beyond me. Maybe they're good in the japanese version but dumb annoying blonde brute needs to go.
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>>381189314
Nope, maybe even more annoying in Japanese. Because of her inherently high-pitched voice in the Japanese VO, her incessant whining grates hard. Not sure how it goes down in the English VO though. I want Y'shtola back already.
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so I've never really messed with melee classes before but I'm playing RDM and notice that I don't automatically auto-attack when tab targetting unless I use a melee move or right click

is there something I need to toggle?
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>>381189483
You right click or use a melee move. Welcome to the coils of bahamut maximizing mage DPS.
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>>381189437
Her English voice is pretty pleasant and doesn't come across as a squeaky girl. She's still annoying, but that's down to her behavior, not the delivery.
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>>381188929
I only like her when she fights and has confidence. Right now she's not doing anything and crying when she doesnt get what she wants
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Pls stop throwing so much crap at me MSQ, no one is buying anything. Or maybe everything has been devalued to 1 gil.
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>>381189198
>Revenge Twofold plays during the Final DRG instance
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Cute.
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>>381189656
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>>381188970
It really does
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>Stormblood Dungeon gear is dyeable

THAT MEANS THEY WON'T RECYCLE IT LATER ON RIGHT

RIGHT
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>>381189946
Only the hw recolors, not the new gear :^)
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>>381189946
Not all of it is. The Shisui stuff will come back again.
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When did tataru become so best
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>>381189732
They've always reminded me of that one incest anime with the twin with gray hair.
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>>381190303
...Go on
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>>381190327
Good job with your spoilers you dumb ape, just hit CTRL + S.
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>>381190327
>dumb Y'shtola throughout the expansion
That is, infact, my wife you are speaking about. I will stand no disrespect or damage to her honor.
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Tjhe Temple of the Fist has to be one of the shittiest dungeons in this game.
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>>381190329
if you don't know what he's talking about you can get the fuck out
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how is it? played heaven for 1 month after release
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>>381190497
Nay.
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>>381190459
Alphinaud sold the nudes he drew of her to everyone in Mor Dhona and Idyllshire. Everyone's beaten it off to your wife.
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>>381190303
The one with multiple arcs?
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>>381190636
yosuga no sora

they have sex
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>>381190286
Tataru has always been the bestest. She is the only Scion that pulls her own weight. Everyone else gets carried by the Warrior of Light
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>>381190649
Alphie getting called out on seeing her nude is still one of the best scenes I want her to bully him some more
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>>381190765
Thanks for spoonfeeding me.
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>ex susan has two whole new moves
>he repeats the same 4 things from 60% to death

what a disappointment
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>>381190286
She's probably the only one that got shit done in SB
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>>381190649
Let's be more realistic; Alphinaud drew nudes and Tataru found them and sold them.
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>>381190790
>Everyone else gets carried by the Warrior of Light
And Cid who's not even a real part of the scions
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>Shisui as SAM

>obi of aiming
>ring of healing

>kote of aiming
>earrings of casting

>mengu of casting
>necklace of casting

>joi of slaying
>bracelets of fending

>necklace of fending

>longbow
>kohakama of fending

>it finally says fuck it and gives me a joi of striking
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>>381190914
Why the fuck isn't he a Scion anyway?
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>>381190921
You're guaranteed at least one piece of gear now
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>>381190876
This is definitely what happened.
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>>381190987
I know, that's what makes it ridiculous
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>>381190921
Reminder that the SB dungeons give you a freebie piece of the dungeon set for your job on completion, so even if you don't get shit you get at least one piece, and you're guaranteed not to have that as a freebie next time so you can get all the pieces in so many runs
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>>381190980
Too busy running ironworks and doing his own thing
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>>381191052
Yeah if I had 7 fucking hours to just run this dungeon with DPS queues. I'm also stuck looking fucking retarded until the next gearset now because this top doesn't even slightly go with the recoloured Valerian pants
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>stormblood
>no dont fight them here and now you'll make things worse
>lyse: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANT TO FIGHT
>repeat in every area
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>>381191135
>Stormblood
>Lyse comes into frame
>Blank out and mash 0
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>Shisui pops between quests right before Susanoo
>now have to swim all the fucking way back to that fucking cave yet again
Fucking fuck
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>>381191135
She's actually a pretty accurate character, ignorant girl raised pretty sheltered who then tries to run on idealism when when she knows nothing
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>>381191135
>Why don't you people who are oppressed and beaten down and tortured and have family killed and maimed for resisting the empire get up and fight for your homeland? BTW I'm not from neither Doma nor Ala Mhigo but I'm just gonna act like this homeland is super important to me for some reason even though I've spend my time in Eorzea away from Garlean oppresion
She's a fucking privileged first-world activist and I would rather live under Yotsuyu's heel than listen to her dumb ass talk about liberation
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>>381191228
You could not use the portal and just leave the dungeon instead. That'll put you back where you were.
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>started msq with main
>took a break to level SAM
>got it to 60
>want to take it through msq now
>too burned out on potd/pvp to do anymore to catch up to my main
>dungeon queues are too fucked to level through
The leveling system in this game is cancer
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>>381191265
you would think she would have grown out of it during her time as a scion
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>>381191404
Swimming back to the dungeon entrance would be even worse
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>>381189656
Sit it in all that extra armor chest space for a month for bank. People haven't had time for to do leveling on a 2nd character. Once they do they'll going to be in higher demand. On top of that Grand Company turn ins when people start leveling crafts too.

>>381191228

Honestly, anon. The dungeon is right next to the island. You can't be that lazy.
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man, shatter a bigger fucking mess than before what a joke.
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>>381191418
They released two DPS and no healer or tank. They fucked themselves.
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>>381191418
Get a level 70 pocket Tank. Helps to have higher level friends.
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>>381191431
She didn't do shit without papylymo, an actual decent character. Wrong scion died.
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>>381191447
Yeah, you need to tag quest right at entrance again.
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Sugoii
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>>381191378
Uh, she is Ala Mhigan. Her dad was Raubahn and Sloppy's boss.
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>WAR and SCH players spend all of HW laughing at other tank/healer players
>both have landed firmly in the cuckshed

You fuckers deserve every bit of it
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>>381191550
She's Ala Mhigen but has lived outside of Ala Mhigo for a large majority of her life and hasn't suffered the hardships her people have.
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How bad did Stormblood flop? Is it another reddit expansion?
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>>381191543

This is goofy, i like it.
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>>381191597
Preach it.
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>>381191431
She grows during the course of the main questline.
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>>381191550
She wasn't raised there, it's be better to say she's the equivalent of an immigrants child going back to their home after being fed nothing but idealism and not being told the bad
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>>381191543
Potato hate aside, that's actually pretty good.
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>>381191543
>not using /pdead to make the scene better
What a fucked up webm
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Are there any new Beast Tribe quests in SB?
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>>381191543
>1920x1080
For what purpose?
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>>381191758
beast tribes are never at release
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>>381191705
Well yes, but you forgive a returnee's ignorance when they bring a demigod with them to kill all your enemies.
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>>381191672
It flopped so hard they actually added new servers to help accomodate all the new players and they still fucked it for a few days
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>>381191597
I can only imagine the conferences went something like
>Sir, it says here you've slated two healers and two tanks for nerfs and utility removals
>yes
>And you're adding two new DPS classes with the expansion too?
>of course
>Don't you think it might be a bad idea to give already in demand players incentives to play other classes? Especially considering DPS queues are already long?
>queues wirr not change
>But si-
>prease rook forward to it
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>>381191484
I don't think it would have been a problem if they hadn't fucked all but one of the healer and tanks so that everyone started switching in droves, the main reason I even want to switch to SAM is because doing a bunch of solo duties as SCH is boring as fuck I'd rather do it with a dps but I fucked myself and started out with my main, which is ridiculous and shows how shitty the leveling design is.
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>>381191672
>reddit expansion
nice maymay friend
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>>381191892
It helps stop people rushing through the MSQ and makes them respect the content.

Yoshi knows what he's doing
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>>381191859
>you forgive a returnee's ignorance when they bring a demigod with them to kill all your enemies.
You mean the Warrior of Jobbing?
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you know what, I don't care what people said leading up to launch, WHM seems better this expansion. definitely to do with the fact that i just seem to never go OOM anymore. I can dps to my hearts content and spam heals and with my 2 cds and an occasional ether, i never run out of mana. sure I lost stoneskin but i'm managing fine without it. does the lilies cast speed buff also effect how fast you can cast stone also? that'd be great.
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>>381192012
stoneskin was never that good
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>>381191962
>Warrior of Jobbing
>Zenos was literally the first time our special snowflake demigod has ever lost anything ever

I was pleasantly surprised we didn't just roll over everything as the chosen champion of righteousness for a change.
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>>381191962
It was merely a ruse to take command of the Golden Horde before returning. You'll notice WoL doesn't even need a power up to take out the final boss, who did get a power up.
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>>381191892
Adding DRK did not do a single fucking thing for HW queues.

SB DPS queues are also not any worse than HW.
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>>381191672
What the fuck is a reddit expansion?

You are starting to sound like the fucking smurfs if you keep using reddit for whatever word.
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>>381192012
I was saying as soon as it was revealed people were underselling the hell out of Thin Air, lierally having 12 seconds to spam all of your resource intensive spells is absolutely fucking amazing. If Lillies were actually a good system WHM would be strong as hell right now.
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>>381192149
Because they also added a dps and a healer so status quo was maintained, right now you have 2 new dps and a lot of short sighted people angry with their jobs changes before any balance patching has been done, you're talking out your ass if you think HW queues were this long for DPS
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>>381192012
WHM is definitely a lot better than expected. Lilies and confession can be tweaked in a future minor patch and really help solidify the WHM position but even now I'm very happy. Really good damage output relative to other healers and no MP issues either.

The lilies only reduce the recast time on things like Asylum, Assize, Divine Benis, or Tetra. So if you have 3 lilies then cast Assize, you'll lose all the lilies but Assize will only have a recast time of 40 seconds. The other abilities, if on cooldown, won't be affected.
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>>381192149
>Adding DRK did not do a single fucking thing for HW queues.
You're fucking joking. For the first time DPS WERE IN NEED.
Tank queues actually took a few minutes instead of instant, it wasn't until the stat scaling nerf that tanks started to become scarce again.
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>>381182290
Eh just bought the expansion, if I wasted my money I'll kill you guys. But whatever, I'll get plenty of hours of fun, it's good bang for buck I guess.
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>>381191786
i play at 2560x1440 but suck at making webms
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>>381192268
I remember when dps had a leveling roulette adventurer in need bonus for the first day of HW early access.
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>>381192304
Not in fucking Dusk Vigil, Sohm Al, The Vault, or sure as fucking NEVER EVER Reap they fucking weren't.

>>381192268
>Because they also added a dps and a healer so status quo was maintained
No because it only did shit for 2.0 content and most people didn't actually level it all the way immediately
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>>381192313
SUCKER
>>
Did all the NIN switch to SAM? I haven't seen a single one in dungeons this entire expansion.
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>>381192407
I was in a dungeon with one earlier who said he hated the changes and was going to switch to SAM soon, haven't looked into them myself but maybe they turned a lot of people off
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>>381192372
>what do you mean people using a tank that starts at 30 weren't level 50+ in the first day
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>>381192407
I've seen a bunch on Tonberry. Comparatively few casters.
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>>381192392
In all seriousness, this game will keep me occupied during the summer. I don't drink or waste money on anything else so whatever, I work hard for my money, I'm entitled to have fun. To most women this kind of money is petty cash for a single afternoon.
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>>381192372
>No because it only did shit for 2.0 content and most people didn't actually level it all the way immediately
So you're completely talking out your ass, at the start of HW dps queues took a few minutes at most
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>due to semi busy weekend and the server fuckery, just got to Kugane tonight
>that dungeon beforehand

Wew lads, now that was a great dungeon. Loved the aesthetics and the bosses had okayish mechanics for the very first dungeon. How does the quality change from here?
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>>381192518
>I don't drink or waste money on anything else
>tfw I've spent most the summer so far drunk
being a friendless sperg and having a stay at home job is suffering
>>
can i just live forever in the azim steppes
>>
Is this a good time to start the game as a newfag?
Saw some streamer playing it and the setting + music makes it look comfy as fuck.
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>Susano NM
>Shitty DPS
>At least one person dies every time he does the "split the sea" attack
>WHM eats the lightning and is paralyzed
>Healers eating the orbs during the QTE phase
>One dumbass dies to the big AOE after QTE
>SCH has raised about 12 times
>OOM and tank dies
>Wipe
>"Goddammit why did they nerf the fuck out of SCH!!!"
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>>381192601
They're pretty good, the level 63 one is probably the worst. I'm just glad the expert roulette is decent. I'm not sure if I could take another Neverreap.
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>>381192667
I've seen a lot of bads dps and heals using nerfs for as an excuse for being shitters so far, makes me wonder what they'll claim when the first patch rolls around and everyone gets buffed
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>Monk now has dogshit DPS until 68

Great fucking decisions Yoshit
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Some of these side quests are pretty good.
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>>381192730
>I'm not sure if I could take another Neverreap.
Temple of the Fist isn't really that exciting but Ala Mhigo and Kugane Castle are both pretty good.
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>tfw BLM main

Jesus it's like I'm playing 50 BLM
again except I shit out even more damage, I'm in heaven.
>>
Why do Badders exist to do nothing but fuck things up for the teams that aren't shit
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>>381192407
No one played Ninja to begin with
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>oh nice WoL got to have little more movement in cutscenes
>some animation take away the weapon
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>>381192789
All that nodding practice finally paying off, huh. Love WoL's responses so far.
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>>381192752
>implying that they wont nerf AST+PLD instead
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>>381192789
which one is this?
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>alisaie talking shit to the pirates then ragging on alphie
I'm liking her more and more
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>pants that are too skinny for the sheath to sit properly
This is an affront
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>loved WAR since 2.0
>class has lost all charm and fun in 4.0
>don't know what to do with myself now

Tried out SAM and RDM and both are pretty fun, but I hate these DPS queues. I just miss 3.x WAR man
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>>381192627
You're living the dream, people are are a fucking pain, just stop drinking and you're golden.
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>>381192961
Confessions of the Heart.
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>>381192805
I just had a run of Ala Mhigo on MNK with a DRG and SCH. Having 80% crit rate is kind of gross. I was getting 5+ Forbidden Chakras off on those big trash packs.
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>>381193064

WAR is pretty much the same you retard
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>>381186424
>not switching to English for gyr albania and weeaboo for othard
Really breaks the immersion when the scions talk though
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>>381193110
>confirmed never played WAR
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>>381193115
>tfw Nioh made you appreciate just having voices done in the characters native tongue with subtitles as needed
Hanzo speaking engrish was the best.
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Stormblood releases in a few hours. You haven't beaten it already, right?
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>Can't complete emanation because there isn't a single healer searching.
>everyone in my fc are retarded and just talk complete bollocks.

The urge to give up is strong.
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>>381189665
>>381189198
Oh so breaking boundaries no longer plays in the final job quest? That is a shame Breaking Boundaries is one of the better tracks.
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WHERE MY PLD BROS AT?

What's your 70 rotation like? Requiescat?
You got macros set up for Cover/Divine Veil/Passage of Arms? Why are macros so unreliable that I have to clutter my hotbar with the individual actions so I don't spam?
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>>381192938
There'll definitely be buffs I'm guessing that sch and whm will even get overcompensation buffs and just end up OP
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>trailer shows tons of deathflags
>NONE FUCKING DIES

Why is this allowed?
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>>381192407
From the polls everyone kept doing of Stormblood mains, it was usually second to last after MCH in number of votes.
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So is DRK still button mashy or is it just using one combo over and over?
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>>381193219
because spoiling everything in the trailer would be even worse.
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>>381193219
4.0 aint over yet
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>tfw Y'shtola got placed in the cuck shed the entire expansion.
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>>381193083
>job is the most boring shit ever
>go weeks without leaving my house and seeing people
>when I finally do I'm too much of an actual sperg to talk to them
This is not the dream anon
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>>381193218
i just want them to fix the SCH mana problems.
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>>381192667
>tfw you can run 1 healer + RDM now
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>>381193301
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>>381193306
And how would you feel if you were a highschool teacher like me? Every day with dozens of people, mostly teenagers. I'd really like a slow paced job. Go out sometimes, ride a bike or go to a coffee shop.
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i legitimately hope every newcomer that bought a jump potion dies
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>>381190876
i want to see nudes of tataru
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>>381193115
The two main NPCs for the Othard content have Japanese actors in English anyway.
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Why the fuck didn't they add more customization options to these stupid job bars? Constantly having glowing pulsing shit on my screen is annoying
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>>381193526
>>381193306
>teacher and stay at home job

kek and YOU people are the ones complaining. you've no clue how good you both have got it.
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>>381192979
Alisaie is better than Alphi in every way.
Gotto admit that i started to really like Yugiri more during the game, when she got introduced i allways felt like she showed very few emotions, was happy to see she had a fiery temper about certain things atleast.
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>>381193314
SCH shouldn't have mana problems if you take lucid dreaming.
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>>381191418
They should give us an EXP multiplier for every job we have over that job. Like if you have 10 jobs that are a higher level than the one you're playing you get a 10x EXP multiplier.
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>do the level 63 dungeon quest follow up
>random box of gookspeak out of nowhere
Do other characters speak foreign tongue in game or was that just an oversight.
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>>381193874
Indeed. AST has the real mp issues now and whm can just spam everything full blast.
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>>381193905
Oversight
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>every samurai tips out there is different
reeeeeee
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Why did it come to this?
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>>381193905
It will probably be fixed in the maintenance tonight.
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>>381193314
>One of your main abilities now costs as much MP as a 60 second cooldown gives. Please understand.
>And our new shitty buff doesn't effect any of your kit.
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
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>>381194000
Because the class is new and most people are retarded spouting off old incorrect information such as certain skills not being affected by kaiten.
The best tip you're going to get right now is start with kasha combo then gekko and finally apply yukikaze. The increased skillspeed increases your DPS to about 11% rather than the flat 10 of jinpu which is why you'd do it first.
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>Out of Doma and back into Mhigger land
fug
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>finally unlocking Lance Mastery
>5 move combos now
>tfw
Can't wait until 66 my fellow DRG bros.
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>>381193179
If you don't have expert roulette by now then you are a baddie
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Is it just me or are all of the sb zones super dull and unimaginative? Ruby sea is cool and I haven't seen the lochs yet but.. Is that really it? Azim steppe is basically thunder bluff in 2017, it's a fucking boring golf course
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>>381193141
>confirmed thinks the sky is falling because he lost some utility that all the tanks lost
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>>381194013
>being surprised at miqo'te players being filthy degenerates
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>>381194013
The ancestors weep.
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SAM and RDM are the top2 most fun classes in the game
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do you get verity stones if you get into a none level 70 instance when doing duty expert? I got into Ala mhigo but fuck doing that if I don't get any stones
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>>381194220
It looks kind of goofy, but It feels nice getting the tether. I'm really glad it doesn't fall off if you move out of range.
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>>381194362
Is RDM actually fun /vg/ poster?
It looks ARR BLM tier braindead.
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>>381194371
Ala Mhigo is 70.
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>go from dragoon to sam
>no positionals
>no lockdown on skills so you don't have to worry about when to use them in the fight
>no nothing, just stand there and use your skills
I mean we all knew positionals and lockdowns and shit were only an attempt to mask how braindead everything is in this game but damn does sam feel lackluster.
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>>381194463
>no positionals
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What's the samurai blade with a fire effect on it when drawn?
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>>381194463
>no positionals
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>Celebrating defeating the trial to become a warrior of the Mol and obtaining a new bird mount
>Next second we're serving some edgy Xaela cunts
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>>381194417
I like it a lot so far, haven't played it over 60 but it's fun. It's simple to play suboptimally but requires some planning ahead to play closer to optimally, plus it goes pretty fast for a caster and you have a lot of hybrid options like bailing your party out with dank heals.

Aesthetic is fantastic too.
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>>381194463
>no positionals
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>>381194501
Ifrit.
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>>381194463
>no positionals
Get to 52 and then 62 to be rewarded even further for them.
What the fuck do you mean no lockdowns? Do you mean animation lock? You enjoy animation lock?
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>>381194463
bait
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>>381194501
Probably ifrit?
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>>381194182
The one tip I'm most interested in is if it's worth applying the single target combo buffs in aoe scenarios or if it ultimately becomes a dps loss due to you doing single target in aoe.
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>got AF gear
>not dyeable
nani?
I thought yoshi said AF gear would be dyeable as soon as you got it?
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>>381194508
It's hilarious how at the end of that line the Xaela guy is all >tfw no gf wtf am I always going to be alone?
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why is it called "ride papillon" what does it mean
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>>381194609
>Ever believing Yoshi
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>>381194362
>unlock the 50% dmg buff on next attack
I don't think they playtested sam that much
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>>381194609
I'm sure once Omega comes out we'll be able to upgrade it much like HW AF, given it's still labeled Antiquated, and then it becomes dye-able.
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>>381194490
>>381194503
>>381194529
Explain
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>>381182571
I NEED PICTURES

PICTURES OF THE RDM QUEST WAIFU
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tenacity or crit/crit hit melds on tank gear?
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>>381194534
>>381194560
I was almost certain it was an ironworks item
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>>381194596
In my experience I apply Jinpu and Shifu combos once each and then when they're about to tick down I activate Meikyo Shisui to reapply them inbetween aoe spamming.
Usually everything's dead or I'm low on TP before the second set runs out.
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>>381194680
Gekko and Kasha give extra Kenki when done from the Rear/Flank respectively.
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>>381194631
I don't understand the question.
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>>381194690
Only one I had it seems.
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>>381194596
only really jinpu is worth it cause you have to remember it buff your iaido and kyoten too which cost no TP, shifu helps if you want to makes thing go quicker but not crucial
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>Try PVP
>Whatever team you're on your guys are autistically brawling in the middle while an entire enemy group killing ice blocks

Nice game
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>>381194640
They did and they wanted it to be the best damage in the game with the lowest effort. Did you not realize the trend of stormblood where everything is for dumb people?

Enochian is now infinite as long as you keep playing, blood of the dragoon has 2 refreshes back to back and gk no longer consumes timer, so on.

Welcome to stormblood, please enjoy.
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>>381194785
Better that than having half the team afking at base.
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SE please reduce the MP cost of Thunder III, I'm begging you.

This is not good design.
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>>381194785
And you get like 3 buttons

XIV always had awful pvp
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>>381194785
>Try PVP
>Entire team is bots and they just follow each other around the whole match
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>>381194802
>being upset they removed Geirskogul eating buff uptime
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So for sch do I just drop cleric stance completely now? I'm going swiftcast, protect, esuna, lucid dreaming, largesse, should anything be switched out?
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>>381194802
>People constantly complain that the playerbase sucks and how they hate putting up with shitters in pug groups
>SE makes rotations and stuff easier so even the worst players will end up contributing more
>People complain they made the game too boring
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>>381194779
fucking manlets, when will they learn?
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>>381194973
>SE makes rotations and stuff easier so even the worst players will end up contributing more
>Shitters still find a way to fuck up
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>>381194963
theres a macro you can do to cast protect at the begining then swap it out for esuna or summit else, do that.
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>>381194973
>People
/v/ doesn't count as people
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>>381194912
You can feel however you want about it, but the post is about it being part of the changes that dumbed down rotations and you probably can't deny that it did this much.
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>>381194779
>>381194690
>>381182571
CUTE
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>>381194973
Best solution:
Make classes fun and complex, but give shitters an option that dumbs the rotation down but is suboptimal and like 10% worse than doing the complex rotation.

That way all the turbo casuals can do decent damage with their simple rotation, but all better players will opt for the hard rotation because it's got better output
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;_;
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Have they added any sort of customization to your abilities, similar to Talents in WoW? I don't think I can stomach another year or so of 1 2 3 3 2 1 1 2 3 1 2 COOLDOWN 3 that literally never changes.
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>>381195027
I've been catching up on the HS patches and got to the part where you have to fight Titan HM
I was literally the only one alive at the end of the fight, had to knock off his last ~4% by myself
If a fight requires more than standing in one place and mashing one button, people will fuck it up
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>>381195049
The only thing I don't like is Geir being on a 35 second cooldown until level 70 when it becomes Nastrond.
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>>381194973
Doesn't take a genius to realize people who thought previous mechanics were too difficult like the changes but people who thought previous mechanics were fine or even too easy hate the changes.

They made shitters happy and annoyed the fuck out of everyone with at least 1/5 of a brain or more.
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>>381195095
great way to get people to complain about shitters using the suboptimal choice because they're bad
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>>381195029
What should I be swapping out for? Cleric stance doesn't seem worth it now with the way mana management it
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>>381195174
>Have they added any sort of customization to your abilities
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Level 70 NIN quest

basically

"look at all this cool shit you can't do because you're not a real shinobi"

5.0 when
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>>381195209
Which is a huge improvement compared to complaining about shitters doing half the damage of good players trying to deal with hard rotations, or being bored going 123123123123123123123.
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>>381182290
The Azim Steppe MSQ is absolutely fantastic.

It's hands down the highlight of the expansion if not the definitive area/storyline of the entire game and you can tell they put the most effort into making this zone great. I seriously got lost in how pretty the zone is and got lost in the tribes stories during side quests.

Its not only a beautiful zone but it has the most varied and interesting people, fauna, and design out of anything in this game. I really hope they don't waste the potential they have for 2 years with this zone and hope 5.0 has something similar to its greatness.
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>>381195174
Don't act like wow had some hidden set of previously unimagined hotbars with all new numbers to press. You change jobs if you want different patterns.
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>>381195196
>HS
>HeavenSward
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>>381195280
Basically everything in the East was a hundred times more interesting than Mhigger struggle. Which comes as no surprise.
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>>381195208
>and annoyed the fuck out of everyone with at least 1/5 of a brain or more.
The sad part is that isn't even a majority of the playerbase.
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Still getting to 60... I hate POTD
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>>381195174
>that literally never changes
You mean the same way wow played with talents
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>Hype up the Eastern inspiration to most of Stormblood
>Samurai and shit
>Housing looks straight Edo era architecture
>First zones are sandnigger "muh ala migos" garbage
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>>381195323

>Don't act likw wow had some hidden set of previously unimagined hotbars with all new numbers to press.

No, but it had and still has different talent builds that change how your play and what you specialize in. Being more technically dumbed down than even modern WoW is a pretty sad state of affairs for an MMO.
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>>381195110
SHOW ME A GOOD TIME, JACK!
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>>381195379
>leveling dps
Enjoy getting to 60 and spending it in queues
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>>381195421
Heavensward literally ends with them planning to go to Ala Mihigo what the fuck did you expect
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>>381195443
lol ok
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>>381195362
The plight of the Doman's and the Confederacy didn't hook me as much as the Xaela did.

Also this entire expansion was a bait and switch for expectations

>Game advertises about going to save the Mhiggers
>Fans think that its actually about Japan with the introduction of Kugane
>It's really about saving the Chinese/Mongolians
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>>381195443
>but it had and still has different talent builds that change how your play and what you specialize in
No it didn't you had the exact same rotation no matter what unless you were purposely being a shitter
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>>381195346
>autism
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>>381195447
I'm going in with most of my FC retard. No queues for me.
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>>381195443
>different talent builds that change how your play and what you specialize in
Let me stop you for a second. If you're talking about ye talents of olde, that's some bullshit. Shit was cooker cutter as fuck. And if you're talking about post-MoP era talents, there are FEW examples of that being even remotely true, since a lot of them are minor passive effects or cooldowns.
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>>381195443
its not like there's more than one talent build for most classes at any given time. Tanks and healer get some more choice in wow but for dps its pretty much all the same all the time and sometimes wow dude you swap out for aoe content
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>desert spiders
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>>381195518
Fatter cat when?
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>>381195539
>>381195543

I didn't say it was for every class, but the lion's share of classes had additional play options which is a marked improvement over 1,2,3 with literally no possible change at all for two years.
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>>381195443
talents are situational and you choose it based on on that or whatever is more OP at the moment

and before that, all "different talent builds" where garbage where you would be stomped, would tank like shit, can't heal or do shit DPS, Vanilla to Cata you needed an specific set of talents if you wanted to do anything

the only good thing WoW has going for it is three different subclasses inside a class, and don't get me started with dumbed down, some classes got pruned and still double in buttons to majority of WoW classes
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>>381195232
I miss Utsusemi tanking from XI
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>>381195443
There were very few abilities in talent trees and you ended up with the same rotation regardless with maybe an extra chance for some sort of proc, shit was no different than this
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>>381195636
Well, cling to the illusion of choice if you must. I'm not going to claim that XIV is any better in having practically none, but most of WoW's choice is a choice between the right and several wrongs, and a lot of the change from patch to patch is Blizzard trying to fix their own mistakes after they butcher classes from one expansion to another.
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>Buy PS4 physical version
>Put registration code into PSN code
>The product tied to the registration code is just the Early Access for some reason
>Mog Station doesn't show I have a Stormblood full license, only early access
>PSN media list only shows I have Stormblood early access

Can see myself getting fucked when early access ends on Friday, lads. Seems like SE printed an early access code in the PS4 physical cases.
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does gear matter iin PvP?
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>>381195642
The only way to make talent trees work is to make it impossible to check other peoples talents, which is what made it interesting in vanilla because most people made their own builds and guilds often kept their cookie cutter builds secret.

But that's not possible in todays internet culture, the datamined, optimal, best builds will be leaked week 1 on ribbit.
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>>381195756
no
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>>381195756
Literally nothing matters in PVP now, everybody's fixed level and you can only choose some traits and extra skills.
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>>381195232
Be happy NIN is not "look at all this cool shit you can't do because you play with 220 ping" for you. It is for me.
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>>381195636
>but the lion's share of classes had additional play options which is a marked improvement over 1,2,3 with literally no possible change at all for two years
No they didn't you picked what was optimal and went 123 nothing in talent trees ever considerably changed your rotation unless you're trying to talk about specs which isn't comparable
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>>381195739

It's not an illusion of choice if there is a tangible, realistic and ever pertinent addition of choice.

>and a lot of the change from patch to patch is Blizzard trying to fix their own mistakes after they butcher classes from one expansion to another

Or having to lift up literal shitter, 100% downgrade Jobs like AST, MCN and DRK in HW release? XIV is no better for this historically, I don't know the state of Jobs post 4.0 but I'm guessing at least three Jobs got straight up gimped or made redundant.
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>>381195806
>>381195831
Awesome. Now I can wear fun clothes instead of tryhard sets
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The music is the only good thing about this expansion.

Everything else is shit tier.

Fuck SAM
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>Kugane Castle is amazing
>Fisting Temple sucks
4 months of expert roulette with these
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>>381195856
>living in the east coast
kek
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>>381195923
Ala Mhigo is in the roulette too, so it's only a 1/3 to get a bad one.
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>>381195856

Australian?

>tfw no OCE servers EVER
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>>381195925
well meme'd friend but I live in the extreme south of south america
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>tfw 20ms

double weaving like crazy
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>>381195916
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>>381195539
There were a decent amount of build choices for some classes in the old talent system. Deep fire, deep frost, tri-spec elemental mage, PoM fire for example for mages in vanilla. Shockadins in vanilla and TBC. SL/SL for locks ontop of investing deep into each tree. Hemo swords and HARP rogues in TBC. It was definitely more variety than the new talent system, which has been "swap to optimal talents for each encounter" since day one, which pretty much defeats the entire purpose of a talent system in the first place.
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>dps leveling queues are 30+ minutes
So grinding pvp is the only way to level post 60 now once you've finished msq?
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>>381195916
RDM is fun tier
Everything else sucks
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>>381196026
Fate train and hunts while queueing
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>>381196026
I prefer doing dungeons than grinding pvp even if ultimately the exp per minute is worse at least I'm not selling my soul.
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>>381182571
The rntire fucking SB story is a game of thrones reference

>unable to win the fight in the west so you travel east and recruit a horde of nomadic horsefucking barbarians to create an army to win the war
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>>381196023
>well as a 910 paladin with a lot of haste focused gear and dps trinkets i can pull about 600k ST as holy so shockadin is a thing
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>>381196036
To me what sucks the most is how strong SAM is. As a non sheep who actually stuck with his class instead of flocking like a braindead zombie it's very annoying to see how broken it is.
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>>381196067
>exp per minute
You're talking exp per hour at this point, dps queues are slow as fuck
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>>381196026
>Queue for dungeon
>Do FATEs, Sidequests, or jerk off in the meantime
Is it really that difficult to fill in the time? Do you just stand around huffing and puffing and whining about queues?
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>>381196026
Gonna queue up to my highest dungeon and then do all the sidequests while waiting.
Didn't do any of them earlier since I had instant queues as a healer.
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>>381196117
Welcome to literally every mmo that has introduced a new class in an xpac, you have to make it strong to make those braindead zombies feel like they got something special for at least the first patch then you can go back to balancing
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>>381196117
I have yet to see a good one.
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>>381196197
Because that's exactly what happened with AST.
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>>381195232

Seriously though, there is no reason we shouldn't have fucking Shadow clones at this point.
I'd rather have those be one of the new Nenki gauge abilities than...Baklava or whatever the hell it's called.
They'd be fun as shit in PvP too.
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>>381196145
>doing sidequests on a char that is doing msq
I never do this. Sidequests are a good filler for when you are leveling an alt job and you have no msq to fill the time.
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>low level MSQ forces you to queue for dungeons
Why
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>>381192407
I'm grinding both at the same time.
Nin is just so meh now, horrible ping, pld rotation, only fun thing about it is the frog.
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>>381196236
>doing sidequests on a char that is doing msq
But he said
>once you've finished msq

I don't either, I saved all of mine so far. I fill in the time with FATEs.
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>>381196228
Baklava is from a different quest.
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>>381196220
AST wasn't poster child for HW that was DK, which was the most forgiving tank at launch a single unleash and everything was stuck to you for good so that people who had never tanked could feel competent
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>>381196279
>Not climbing the tower.
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>>381195509

The storylines tend to last the entire expansion though. We'll probably still end up doing those other things.
I'm sure the Mhigger suffering hasn't ended yet.
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>>381196243
Get used to it, I think the game forces you to do at least half the dungeons in the game for story progression
There used to be some instances that were not part of any roulette but necessary for MSQ so you had to wait an hour or more to get into them
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>>381196329
Which tower?
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>>381193876
>whole milk
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>>381196313
and so the backpedaling begins
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>>381196381
No nigger that's not backpedaling, RDM isn't op right now either for the same reason it's not what their selling you on
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>>381196372
The building in Kugane with the hunt stuff. It's a giant jumping puzzle.
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>>381194182
It's not that simple when you have a 60 second DoT that will always be your 3rd or 4th weapon skill.

Shipu being on the second combo is the same as doing nothing for about one second but having it on the first combo means losing 141 potency off of a Kaiten Higanbana. The sen combos average out to ~126 potency per second if you're just cycling them for Midares so I'd guess opening with Gekko would be stronger at level 52 but it's much more complicated at 70. Shipu should be better for level 50. But then opening with Yukikaze means getting Higanbana up 2.1-2.4s faster with the slashing debuff on so that's a complete other can of worms.
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>>381196426
Oh my, I'll have to go check that out.
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>>381196416
You are backpedaling. Read your posts again. You're a big boy, I'm sure you can figure it out.
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>>381196236
Sidequests are shit for alt jobs because they're flat EXP while most shit gets massive bonuses on a second class.
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Why is tank always the last role to get filled? I thought tanking was popular in this game.
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Aussie here, Tonberry is full, where the fuck do I make my home? Typhon?
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>>381196519
You clearly don't know the meaning of backpedaling and haven't experience and xpac launch before
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>>381196586
You clearly are one dumb motherfucker
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>>381196416
>RDM isn't op right now
If you had done potd exp grinding with a black mage you'd notice just how strong it is compared to vanilla dps.

Granted that's only lvl 60 gameplay, but still. Also, not the other guy you were talking to.
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>RDM is extremely fun
>Too used to Tank/Healer queue times
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>>381196647
>with a black mage
red I mean
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>>381196617
Explain how I backpedaled then dumbass
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>>381196558
It's the least popular role after healers. Although the job is braindead easy once you have a tank stance (even moreso now with SB upping enmity generation on all your combo moves) it's arguably the most stressful as your fuckups are the most visible. You're also expected to be a leader and know mechanics so there's a higher level of base expectation for someone in the role.
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>>381196698
Take a look at your first post, retard
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>>381196450
Actually though you can't open with a Kaiten Higanbana at level 52 unless you have left over kenki from a previous fight so I'm full of shit. I think at level 63 it's probably better than Shipu but I'd have to work out how often you can Shinten and fuck that.
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>>381196731
No nigger explain
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>>381196572
Behemoth. It's the NA data centre equivalent of Tonberry.
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>>381194963
>>381195029
Cleric Stance is garbage because it's only a 5% DPS increase for 15 seconds.

Only one healer needs to take Protect and Esuna is situational but I take them anyways.

Lucid Dreaming and Swiftcast are necessary.

Given these 4 you basically decide between Largesse or Eye for an Eye.
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>>381196647
Man leveling SAM was extra suffering because 50% of the time you try to Iajitsu something an RDM is going to pull aggro and make the mob walk past you and cancel your cast.
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>>381196729
Derp I meant healers are a close second in how few there are. There's definitely more tanks than healers.
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>>381196760
I'm not your babysitter
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>>381195925
>being a communist
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>>381196840
No you're a dumbass who doesn't know what backpedaling means
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>>381196647
>potd grinding
Wow aren't you a special one.
PotD contains mobs with virtually no HP so RDM can expend its burst almost every time. In real fights at the cap it's the weakest of the casters - though not by a large margin and it's well compensated with Embolden and mobility options, however a talented BLM will certainly outdo RDM.
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>>381196812
I literally cannot stop fucking up. There's more healers than tanks.
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>>381196868
No, you're a retard who's full of shit
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>>381196910
>you backpedaled
>where
>NOT YOUR BABYSITTER LOL RETARD
sure thing anon
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>>381196876
>Wow aren't you a special one.
What the fuck are you even talking about? How on earth did potd grinding manage to trigger you enough that you needed to throw defensive sarcasm on it?

Holy shit attempting to talk with autism lords is like walking on a minefield.
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>>381196876
Gathered that information from playing with pugs, I'm sure?
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>>381196876
>a talented BLM
Sorry Stormblood killed that. There are no talented BLM's anymore, there are only BLM now.

Repeat after me: Infinite Enochian
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>>381196876
>t. BLM

fear the fedora
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>>381196956
Okay open wide little baby.
>any time an expansion introduces a new class it's OP and then they make it balanced after a while
>b-but this job that was shit at launch and has been retardedly overbuffed since doesn't count because muh posterchild
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>>381196876
RDM can actually substitute as a healer, their burst is pretty good and despite being proc based too, their damage is still pretty consistent.

it's fun.
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>>381197063
Do you not know the difference between a and all?
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>>381196978
Because you have to be fucking retarded to try and use PotD as a point of reference for how strong a class is.
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>Extra $60 to skip straight to Stormblood content
Seriously considering it if only to get past these low level MSQ dungeon queues. Wouldn't mind it if I could just grind through it all on my own but being forced to sit around making no progress for 40 minutes at a time is pretty shit.
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>>381197110
Anon, stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>381197129
At lvl 60 it's not a bad reference. PotD has bosses and a lot of people run it with friends in groups of 2 or 3 so not everything is being exploded in minus 2 seconds.

Calm your autism and try your best to hold a conversation like a regular person, so far you are behaving like a complete clown.
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>>381196876
Everything you said in this post is wrong.
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I wanna try a Melee DPS job, MNK or NIN? Don't really care for DRG/SAM
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>>381197360
NIN
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>tfw finally using the amatsu set
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>>381183608
shh dont tell them
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>>381197302
The fact you can't tell the difference between a and all should be embarrassing for you. Enjoy all the (you)s you got though dumbass.
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>>381197415
The fact that you don't know how language works and can't admit you were wrong is pretty sad.
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>>381197415
>The fact you can't tell the difference between a and all
Yes, how clever of you to leave yourself that little escape route to back pedal once more.
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>>381196056
>Fate train
Where are these fate trains at?
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>>381197048
BLM talent wasn't with keeping enochian in 3.0, it was keeping uptime.

Poor casters are still going to be shit at amount of f4s, even with triplecast.
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>>381197132
grind your character to like level 55 and then bumrush the MSQ with unsynced dungeons
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>>381194539
>You enjoy animation lock?
Enjoying is a stretch but there is no denying at least it adds an extra layer of thought regarding when to use a skill depending on the fight.

Not that it means much anyway. Ultimately everything in this game is dumb. Not only this game but MMO's as a whole.
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>>381197449
>planning an escape route in my first post before your dumbass even came along
wow I must be playing some 4d chess here
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>>381197510
You're right, I gave you too much credit. You're just plain ol' back pedaling like he said you were.
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>>381197510
people do that when they know they're full of shit.
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>>381197548
>back pedaling
You still have no idea what that means anon
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>>381183608
Higher dps than SAM? I doubt it.
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>>381197579
>Say thing
>Thing is not right
>WHAT I ACTUALLY MEANT WAS
This is what you did and this is back pedaling on a previous statement. Sorry.
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>>381197579
have you considered that you're the one who doesn't know?
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>Not doing the story with the garlean outfit you steal
pleb
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>>381197628
There was no backpedaling you're just a dumbass who can't read
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>>381197636
That's exactly what I'm doing, but I turn the helmet off for cutscenes.
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>That final DRG instance
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>>381197672
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>>381197636
>Not wearing heavy iron.
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>>381197765
How does it feel to have gone down so much in the dps chain of jobs?
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>>381197672
lol retard
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>>381197883
I'm not the illiterate one here anon
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>>381197907
it's funny because you actually are
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>>381197471
You are talking about the difference between a shitter and a regular person. I'm talking about the difference between a regular person and a talented person.
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>>381197907
Well, you are, but I understand your anonymous pride won't let you back away from an internet argument. So take this one, champ. :^)
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>>381197972
The only one concerned with winning here is you friendo, you for some reason have went out of your way to convince yourself of something that is plainly written down to the contrary
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