Is this a viable option for gaming?

>>381173608
If you consider a 5820K viable for gaming then yes

>>381173971
a who

For a $800 or less budget PC, why not.

>>381173971
It still has worse single thread than a 5820k

>asking /v/ for tech advice
It's like you want to get fucked

>>381174553
Mainly due to compilers not being mindful of it's weird ass cache architecture. With the latest GCC version it's actually getting higher IPC than Kaby.

>>381174752
whats gcc?

>>381173608
of course it is
a 2600 is still a viable option for gaming
a Ryzen will destroy anything

>>381173608
It's THE option for gaming if you want to do multiple things at once.

>>381174917
GNU Compiler Collection

>>381175339
ty

It's a logical budget choice, the performance on it is only getting better. It's a great game performer.

Intel's new Kaby Lake X and Skylake X are still the best for performance but they're power consumption monsters at more than double of the 1800X.

>>381173608
>>>/g/

>>381176903
>buying X299
>ever

>>381173608
New games with multi-threading: yes
Any game more than a year old: no

>>381174443
i want a budget pc
>>381177528
what do you mean by that

It pisses me off how the new intel and amd CPUs require Windows 10 for all features to work. I'm not "upgrading" from my Windows 7.
I'm never going to upgrade again unless a new Windows that isn't shit comes out, which probably isn't going to happen with all the Pajeets in charge of microsoft.

>>381177943
get windows 10 ltsb

>>381177796
Any game more than a year old is heavily optimized for Intel's fewer, faster cores because literally no one used AMD
You're better off buying an older i5 or a Pentium G-series if you're on a budget and want to play games that are already out

Ryzen shook up the market and more future games are being optimized for 6+ cores, but it's not yet the new paradigm

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>>381178164
>y-you can turn everything off!
>I-I swear!

>>381178267
>not the new paradigm

Just off the top of my head, battlefield 1, tomb raider, witcher 3, the division, and gears 4 all make use of 6 or more cores. Devs have been working their engines for more cores since the latest consoles launched

>>381178483
I mean upgrading to new CPU is privacy/security concern in itself given Intel's IME and AMD's equivalent. I think the hardware side much more terrifying than MS's optional OS.

>>381173608
Yes
Lower lower consumption and better performance than intel
Only disadvantage is the lower clockspeed, but the additional cores more than make up for that (except for unoptimized garbage like Arma 3 or DayZ or some shit)

>>381178483
Even the fucking Nvidia drivers have telemetry.

You can't escape the botnet. The only way to truly escape is to use linux and never connect to the internet.

>>381178783
>MS's optional OS.
Not really optional when the new hardware pretty much requires you to have it.

>>381173608
It costs literally more or at best, the same as an i7 but has worse performance.

Don't fall for the /g/ memes. The fact than an i7 has half the threads than a Ryzen yet performs better is hard factual proof that "MOAR CORES!" is a engineering dead end.

>>381181281
it has marginally worse performance in single thread but beats the shit out of it in multithread. Games that take advantage of this do perform better on ryzen.

That said, the clock speeds are too low for high FPS gaming but in NO way is it actually bad for any game. It's no longer a bottleneck on your system like the fx chips were. Nobody here is actually going to get the full benefit out of single threaded performance unless they only play fucking CS:GO.

>>381181604
Or Arma 3, but that's Bohemias fault for using such an old engine.

>tfw got a 1600

NO WHERE'S MY RX 580 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FUCKING MINERS

>>381174752
who gives flying fuck about GCC if they're looking to game?

>>381173608
Yes but I hear emulating is worse on it, if that has any effect on you.

Is intel going to release their 6 core processor to compete withryzen?

>>381181770

I can get them in my country. Is Gigabyte aorus good? Last month I could buy a Sapphire nitro+ 8gb really cheap but they all disappeared now

>>381181968
emulation is fine on it

I've had no issues running dolphin. CEMU will optimize eventually. It's broadwell level IPC easy and they had no real problems with emulation.

Still, not ideal clockspeeds for it and if you're setting up an emulation box you might as well use an i3.

>>381182291
It is fine

>>381182198
you can bet so

>>381173608
Yes. Modern games are not CPU hungry, pretty much any CPU above 100 EUR will do fine.

>>381173608
>compare benchmarks
>all the whining comes over games running 20% slower but the lowest average fps is still 70-100+ in games

ryzen isn't worth if you stare at the fps counter and afterburner overlay, its worth it if you actually play video games.

>>381182495
WRONG

won't bottleneck anything

>>381182291
pls mail me one ;~;

stupid fucking chink miners buying them by the thousands and taking them from chinese warehouses before they ship to glorious first world cuntries

2nd hand market is gonna flood with them sooner or later for cheap probably

>>381178267
The problem with your reasoning is that older games don't use as much resources as modern titles. A high end CPU in 2012 is a mid-range in 2017. So even high settings on an old title wont saturate a modern CPU (usually) and so the ~10% "gain" Kaby Lake has over Ryzen in older titles becomes mostly irrelevant. (In that you will have no problem pushing 60+fps with either when paired with appropriate graphics)

>>381182541
Name one game that can't be comfortably run on an i5.

>>381183748
gta v with advanced settings turned on is too much for the i5s

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BUY INTEL

>>381183748
Most modern games.

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ITS NOT FAIR

>>381183810
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1911-gta-v-cpu-benchmark-4790k-3570k-9590-
I'm calling bullshit. Obviously you won't get 60 fps at all times when maxing out absolutely everything, but it's still perfectly playable.
>>381184005
>Most modern games
That's blatantly false, retard.

>>381184316
So it's about as good or better than the 6900 at less than half the price?

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what are you gonna do? buy Intel "burning smell" skylake?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-x-series-skylake-x-kaby-lake-x-x299-basin-falls-core-i9,34545.html
>The LGA2066 socket is compatible with LGA2011 cooling solutions, which is a plus. However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option, which will add more cost to the overall solution.
>However, Intel now recommends water cooling as the minimum cooling option,
>water cooling
>minimum

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>>381184907
I never get tired of housefire jokes.

>>381183030
A mid-range Intel from years ago, and current Intel low-end, still beat a high-end Ryzen in single-core performance

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>>381185129

>>381185217
>watercooled_skylake.jpg

>>381184481
Fuck off i5 apologist.

>>381185342
>Stating facts means I'm an apologist
I don't even own an i5 lmao.

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>>381184481
never trust the jew

>>381185430
Stay mad and wrong for eternity.

>>381184481
"all you need for gaming is an i5" is a dying meme buddy

>>381185504
What am I looking at

>>381185664
DLC

>>381185664
hardware DLC

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>>381185748
>>381185773

>>381184628
>>381185664
>>381185664


upograde key PREMIMUM
nah but for real

ryzren 1600x or 1700 isthe best buy if you do anything other than gaming atall

if you ONLY and i mean ONLY play video games (no streaming, no vifdeo editing, no music making, no anythingelse), thne get an i5 760kkk

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ITS NOT FAIR

>>381186031
>(no streaming, no vifdeo editing, no music making, no anythingelse),
So all stuff that nobody fucking does.

I'm sure your youtube channel is going to take off any day now, brah.

Is a 1600 enough to play Skyrim Modded the fuck out, Witcher 3 on max,etc?

I'm finally going to upgrade my 2010 PC.

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>>381186415

>>381184481
> Obviously you won't get 60 fps at all times when maxing out absolutely everything

in the loo goes your opinion

I get down to 40fps on my 4690k on the highways with extended drawdistance

>>381186452
Yes, just keep in mind that Skyrim's engine is a piece of shit that runs terribly on most CPUs

>>381183748
rise of the tomb raider

Ryzen 5
16GB 2000-something DDR4
GTX 1070
Goal is to run everything released thus far bar graphics monsters at 1080p 60fps. Ye or nah?

>>381187004
What GPU are you using?

>inb4 a 960

Intel is still better. Single core performance is much better. Until games care to utilize muh 8 core powerhouse, youre stuck with Intel being on top.

>>381187282
Literally the exact setup I have except 3200 MHz RAM and it just werks

>>381182291
BUY IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW BEFORE THE MINERS DO

>>381187302
1070 you trucking arguing monkey I also got performance metrics on screen showing that CPU is maxed

your no games are CPU intensive shit is wrong and so is your i5 can run any game COMFORTABLY, below 60fps is okay only by third world standards

>>381187282
Get higher clocked RAM, 3000Mhz is the sweet spot
this has to do with infinity fabric, it likes higher ram freq

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>>381187282
>2000-something DDR4
sweetspot's 3000/3200mhz

>>381187369
Can I run skyrim with enough porn mods to make my nut's nut bust a nut? This is extremely important

>>381187456
>>381187471
Thanks lads

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>>381181968
>Yes but I hear emulating is worse on it,
Wrong.

>>381184481
>i5 3570k and 1060 3gb with 8gb of RAM on my second PC that I use for work
>Still runs everything I throw at it at 1080p 60fps
More cores does not mean better performance you fucking mongoloids. Single core performance is what matters and will continue to matter until consoles die.

>Emergency shutdown after using Prime95
The house fire memes are real.

>>381187661
>More cores does not mean better performance you fucking mongoloids
Smoother performance and better minimum frames.
But really it depends on a number of factors: how lazy game developers are at optimizing, the game engine, and if it's a console port. Because consoles are all on AMD.

>>381187595
>Emulating DOOM 3
What the fuck is your problem?

>>381186415
idk anon i've found a lot of people here make music, maybe you've never heard of /v/ the musical

maybe you have no creative outlets at all

i dont have a youtube channel but sometimes my friends like to watch me broadcast stuff, not enough to decide my purchase of a CPU, but just throwing it out there.

lots of us do other things than sit on this shitty site. I photo edit for a hobby and ended up with 2 photos of mine from a vacation in colorado being published in NatGeo, which is pretty amazing to me; I'll admit I didnt make any money off of it but it's still really crazy to think about.

>>381187398
You're trying to max out a graphically intensive open world game on a mid-range CPU and you're complaining that it doesn't run at solid 60 fps, well done.
If your comfort bar is 60+ fps, ultra settings, then don't buy a mid-range CPU, you literal autist.

>>381187812
Anon...

>>381187812


this biat istn even funny, anc sonedering how w stupid people here are, its wortr addressing.

hes emulating with dolphin and eft, hte bottom right doom is acutally just naturally ruanngin.g

>>381187938
well you're the one claiming that no games are CPU intensive and that i5s can comfortably run anything

I named one and now your retort is that under 60fps is fine and dandy

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>>381187812
>>381187940

>>381187767
Consoles utilize the AMD chips with built in graphics. I believe they call them APU's. Those chips use 4 cores just like high end Intel chips. 8 core chips are special snowflakes - even the Intel ones. Only good for compiling videos.

>>381173608
Ryzen is garbage for emulation.
You'll want high single-thread performance which AMD fucking sucks at.

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>>381187661
>it totally runs all of 2 (two) games I throw at it
>graphics settings? why do you need to know that?

>>381187976
English pls

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>>381188107

>>381188053
No, my point is that for the absolute vast majority high settings are fine and dandy. And an i5 can handle high setting GTAV at 60 fps just fine, as shown in the benchmark.
That's why I used the word "comfortable" and not "maxed out".

>>381187976
Jesus Anon.

>>381188102
>Those chips use 4 cores just like high end Intel chips.
Consoles are on 8 core custom jaguar cpus.

>The central processing unit (CPU) consists of two x86-64 quad-core modules for a total of eight cores, which are based on the Jaguar CPU architecture from AMD. Each core has 32 kB L1 instruction and data caches, with one shared 2 MB L2 cache per four core module. The CPU's base clock speed is said to be 1.6 GHz.

>>381188141
>Prey maxed at 60fps
>Infinite Warfare maxed at 60fps
>ARMA 3 maxed at 60fps
>D44M maxed at 60fps
Get fucked, bud.

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>>381188397
>Infinite Warfare maxed at 60fps

>>381188393
>He doesnt know that AMD marketed 8 core processors that only had 4 physical cores split into 8 logical cores. Hence the low clock speeds.

>>381188538
They're not logical cores. They're two quad-cores duck taped together.

>>381188465
>Cherrypicking

>>381188594
>caring about console port performance

>>381187661


thisguy gets it

i have an Intel Pentium G3258, literally kiscks all games asses

considering upgrading to i3 7350 though.

check single threaded benchmarks it sjust as good as an i7 for like 1/6th the pridce

>>381173608
short answer: yes
long answer: everything is viable for certain level of gaming, you fucking retard

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>>381188993
>literally kiscks all games asses
literally a worthless statement

>>381188993
try out borderlands 2 on max next time

>>381173608
>You will never be a richfag
>You will never own Skylake-X
>You will never enjoy both top tier multithreaded and singlethreaded performance
Feels bad.

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>>381189590
>You will never have a housefire
just

>>381187552
A Pentium can run Skyrim, so yes.

>>381189734
richfags tend to have money to pay for watts and water cooling setups, you know

>>381189734
>Performance takes power
Wew, who would've thought?
An i9 7900X blows an R7 1800X out of the water. Get a proper cooler and you'll be fine.

>>381189734
Intel lets me play games AND outputs enough heat to keep my entire house warm? How can one company be so based?

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>>381173608
no

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>tfw 2500k running at 4.8 ghz for 6 years now
Every year I'm thinking of doing a upgrade and every year I'm like why even bother im still pulling above 60 fps in all games.

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>>381189846
>>381189851
I wish I could afford the liquid nitrogen coolling and all the DLC for a skylake x :(

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>>381189851
Yeah that's not gonna cut it anon, the 7900X is a fucking furnace. The temps go through the roof if you overclock it.

>>381189973
wait until memes will arrive
>muh housefire
>muh less cores
>muh intel for gaming is meme
etc

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>>381182540
>muh framerate overlays
while in reality shitty ryjzen has much lower min frames and will stutter like crazy and you should notice it without overlay but since you are amd pajeet you won't notice shit since you are used to shitty performance since athlons

>>381189590
Singlethreaded performance isn't that top tier on skylake-X since OCing them to levels that make them match OC'd kabylake processors requires extremely good cooling on a processor that already requires high end air coolers or liquid cooling to even function

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>>381190094
don't worry i'm well prepared ;^)

JUST YOU WAIT™

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>>381189973

>>381189973
a genuine question - why is 7700k is so goddamn cheap? I paid for 6600 nearly the same amount when it was released

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>>381190104

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>>381190216
my pajeet friend

>>381190243
prob due ethereum/litecoin miners since they buy ryzens in mass

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>>381190104
>higher averages while running OBS
Meanwhile in benchmarks not performed by complete morons...

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Intel just gets better

>>381190328
fuck, don't remind me of that crypto meme (compared to it, paper money is the most eco-friendly currency we ever had)

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ryzen delivers the best bang for buck
skylake is still the undisputed king of single thread speed, but at a premium price

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>>381190373
and better

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>>381190438
LOL

If you buy Intel right now you are beyond retarded.

>>381190243
also, is there a simple workaround for installing 7700k on windows 8.1? I've already lost my trusty Win7 to Skylake, there's no way in hell i'll move to a platform that takes all decisions for the user.

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>>381190354
>Meanwhile in benchmarks not performed by complete morons...

yeah right brother i just wonder why i7 ram speeds are gimped (along with clocks which doesn't scale) and 1800x is all over the place with like 10 tests for some fucking reason. nice amd biased trash benchmarks you got there pajeet try harder next time ;)

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>>381190440
>those temps

holy fuck, you're going to need a cascade setup just to let this fucking thing idle

>>381187595
how are you emulating doom

>>381173608
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xeflc/ryzen_dx11dx12_draw_call_performance/

If you like skyrim with mods, don't buy Ryzen.

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Skylake X theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIBTg7q9oNc

Skylake is a burnin' thing
And it makes a fiery ringbus
Bound by watery TIM
Intel made a ringbus of fire

[2x]

Intel made a burnin' ringbus of fire
Speed went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ringbus of fire, the ringbus of fire

The taste of shekels is sweet
When our wallets meet
Intel played you like a child
Oh, but the fire went wild

Intel made a burnin' ringbus of fire
Speed went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ringbus of fire, the ringbus of fire

Intel made a burnin' ringbus of fire
Speed went down, down, down
And the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns
The ringbus of fire, the ringbus of fire

And it burns, burns, burns
The ringbus of fire, the ringbus of fire
The ringbus of fire, the ringbus of fire
The ringbus of fire

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>>381187595
nice 30fps you have there, and huge fps drops when something will happen in doom ;) amd pajeets don't care about quality only about quantity

>>381190659
>yeah right brother i just wonder why i7 ram speeds are gimped (along with clocks which doesn't scale)
The 1800x beats it even with 2400 MHz RAM, look again.

>1800x is all over the place with like 10 tests for some fucking reason. nice amd biased trash benchmarks you got there pajeet try harder next time
That's because they benched it with different RAM speeds and with SMT turned on and off, learn how to read a graph.

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>>381190872
Doom runs best on Xeons and Ryzen
why are these threads always filled with retards supporting the concept of buying a badly designed CPU on a dead chipset anyhow? i7-7700k right now would be a retarded purchase.

are you all shilling here because /r/intel told everyone to not buy the i7-7700k and wait?
are you all here because this is probably the only board that doesn't look at retards such as linus tech who has been shittalking intel for their shitty decisions?
oy vey don't forget to buy your raid DLC

>>381191194
>buying a new chipset as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w-G85O8n3I

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oy vey start the barbeques
>21 extra watts for 0.1GHz boost

>>381191349
i9 14,16,18 core CPUs may be incompatible with existing X299 motherboards
http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/52-english-news/8509-skylake-x-14-16-18-core-will-utilize-mcc-die

"A lot of users don’t seem to know that Intel – for almost 10 years – use three kind of Die to produce its own Server SKUs in order to maximise profits: LCC (Low Core Count), MCC (Medium Core Count) and HCC (High Core Count).

For this reason we have to wait a little bit longer to see 14, 16 and 18 core variants of Skylake-X SKUs. These CPU are based on MCC Die (Up to 20 Core), while 6/8/10/12 variants are based on LCC Die (Up to 12 Core). Intel has always used only LCC Dies in its HEDT SKUs, until today.

Intel will have hard times to tweak the MCC Die in order to stay inside the TDP supported by LGA2066 Socket (140W, max 160W), and that’s why we could see a new revision of this socket (Intel engineers are still thinking how to solve this situation)."

tl;dr Intel announced high core count CPUs for X299 without even thinking about how they would work. Amazing knee-jerk reaction.

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>>381191467

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Ryzen CPUs are horrible value. The extra cores stay mostly unused.

>>381182291
It's really good, compact size compared to other 500 series cards and they unfucked the cooler design so it runs much better than the 4XX G1 Gaming series ones.

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>>381191912
Userbenchmark is fucking trash m8

>>381192078
Cinebench is my favorite video game too.

>Skylake-X just came out
>10-core annihilates Rypoo
>AMD on suicide watch

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>>381190083
A FUCKING COMPRESSOR

>>381192138
Userbenchmark isn't a video game either, so I'm not sure what your point is. Maybe don't post shitty benchmarking sites if you want to discuss game performance instead.

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>8 and 16 cores soon a thing
>games today still barely utilize 4 cores even though its been the standard for almost a decade now

>>381192587
Lazy devs

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What did Intel mean by this?

>>381192845
jew cum

>>381192845
>tfw you run out of intel approved brand goo TM so you have to use your own jizz to create conductivity

seen this thread 3 times in the past week. AMD is shilling Ryzen.

Dont fall for it

>>381193056
>implying Intel would let you cool their processor for free
They would probably try to sell you Intel Liquid Cooling™ drink so your you would produce extra cooling semen.

>>381190440
>>381192285
So this means the cores in which the heat is produced are plain unable to get rid of it?
How does that even happen, and why is this a thing particularly for Skylake? It seems such a basic but severe design fault.

>>381181835
GCC is a C/C++ compiler.
It is the thing that gets the source code from the game and turns it into a .exe you can run and play.

The better the compiler, the better the frame rate you get out of the .exe

In terms of general ratings i would say Intel compiler(when used with intel CPUs) > GCC >>>>> Microsoft compiler >>>>>>>>> Intel Compiler (When not using a intel CPU)

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I'm going to upgrade my CPU from a 3570k i5 to something new, should I get an i9 or an i7? I got money to spare.
I've been completely out of the loop for CPU performance since 2013.

>>381193237
Intel don't really have any means to significantly improve their current cpu designs, see how they've mostly just been squeezing out small frequency and IPC improvements ever since sandy bridge
The announcement of threadripper caught them with their pants down and their only recourse has been to try and force what CPUs they have available to clock even higher, since the only architectural "improvements" they had ready was to move cache around and add AVX512. AMD have a design that scales much better and gives much better yields since all they have to do is glue zeppelin dies together (ryzen is 1 die, threadripper is two, EPYC is 4) with infinity fabric, whilst Intel are still making monolithic huge dies. Intel won't have a new architecture out until around 2020 at least.

>>381191194
Doom runs perfectly fine on lots of CPUs, what kind of retarded argument is that

>>381191912
Ryzen are good value (in rendering, encoding), just not for vidya at the moment

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>>381194065
get an i9 7900x

>>381173608
people told me to get a multi core AMD because it's "future proof", 5 years later and games still don't take advantage of those extra cores

Just get Intel, it's safest choice

>>381194447
best =/= perfectly fine you dyslexic moron

>>381194725
go suck your mom's dick, faggot - nobody needs numbers measuring and fixing what's not broken

>>381194065
i9

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>AMD making a 16 core processor
I'm kind of amazed that this is still relevant.

>>381194874
It's much more relevant for Intel than AMD nowadays

>>381194874
but intel is making an 18 core processor

>>381194806
you what
>>381194874
>AMD makes a 16 core processor
>Intel made a 72 core processor running at 1.2GHz
hurr

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>>381194874
more like

>>381194874
MOAR CHIPSETS
vs
MOAR CORES

>>381188538
Jaguar is unrelated to Bulldozer, they're full cores but intended to be for tablets so are actually weaker than the int clusters in Bulldozer.

>>381189973
Nice, a DX12 review before Nvidia patched their DX12 drivers.

>>381193385
https://godbolt.org/

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>>381173608
>mfw I'd have to save my entire paycheck for 4 months to even get a Ryzen 1500X, and that's without the mobo.
>mfw Phenom II house fire master race.

At least I'm not a pajeet.

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MOAR BINGBUS!!!! :DDDD
>>381184907
>>381184907
>>381184907
>>381184907

>>381195263
>entire paycheck for 4 months to even get a Ryzen 1500X
t. ultra poorfag

>>381195263
>entire paycheck for 4 months to even get a Ryzen 1500X
so your wage is like 50$ a month?
here you'd get more being a literal neet

>>381188141
It's true though, I finally upgraded my 3570K this year to a 7600K and got no performance gains on Arma3, DasIII or War thunder.

The only FPS improvement I could see was around 5FPS in Deus Ex Mankind divided, I shouldn't have even upgraded yet, Intel has been scamming people for years.

>>381194551
>at the moment

what will make them better

>>381188987
What else there is to play? Are you saying that PC exclusives are better optimized? Which ones? Paradox games that favor utilizing one core, even if they are supposedly support multithreading? TW:W that had an abysmal perfomance with Ryzen until later patches? Cities Skylines that is running on an old version of Unity that barely supports Ryzen? DoW3 that shows dominance of 7700k, again? LMAO

>>381196302
>Paradox games that favor utilizing one core
>tfw EU3 and HOI3 already were bottlenecking hard on the CPU late game
>bring out EU4 and HOI4 without multicore support
absolutely ebin

>>381189786
Not with a shitload of mods.

>>381196302
Mount and Blade 2 will have multicore support and is said to recommend 6 cores.

>>381195283

>the hat

Fucking killing me.

>tfw I have a xeon
multiclient shitty games and bot all day

>>381173608
for gay-ming yes.

dont fall for the shills that promote shitty stuff on /v/ ,do your own research.

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>>381197425
>do your own research

>>381197327
but do u have 18 cores?

>>381184316
>white and chink
no more poo on cpu?

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>>381185748
>>381185773

>>381201340
You need to buy a physical dongle from intel that plugs into the cpu to enable certain RAID features

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>>381201340
what >>381201479 said

>>381190083
what? does it mean it'll throttle on a standard air cooler? what kind of shit did they push out?

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>>381202107
>standard air cooler
oh my sweet summer child
see >>381184907

>>381181968
I've been throwing everything I could think of at it and Ryzen has been doing really well.

I couldn't manage consistent frames with a 2500k in Dolphin on Sunshine but now I can, performance is definitely noticeably better than sandy bridge.

>>381178483
>Windows breaks when you block stuff in your router
>but unplugging it from the network and having no WiFi it still runs perfectly fine
Something fishy going on here.

>>381204229
>it's like windows has an ability to detect a plugged in ethernet cable
Really activates the neurons to stimulate cognitive sentience

>Ryzen is worse for vidya!
>[dumps benchmarks made before performance patches were released]

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>>381189973
nice bait
this one is updated version

>>381204683
He's talking about blocking windows from accessing certain servers on its own.