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Why do people pretend this looks good? idTech engine is shit.

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Why do people pretend this looks good? idTech engine is shit. Megatextures are a failed experiment. They look blurry, the pop-in, and they perform like shit. This lighting looks like its from an xbox 360 game. Why the fuck is MachineGames, who are talented developers, slaving themselves to a dead and outdated engine? This goes for all of Bethesda, really. Their in-house proprietary engines are garbage. Prey was in CryEngine, and coincidentally was their first modern looking game they've ever made.
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Technology doesn't matter as much as artistry and budget. Wolfenstein has top notch production values. And I hope they switch to Doom version of the engine that doesn't have pop in textures.
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>>381128728
Prey was a great game but the worst use of the cryengine i have ever seen.
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>>381128728
Prey looked like shit as well
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>>381128728
Megatextures are fine after hardware and APIs started supporting them directly in 2012-2013. In that version of idtech it was done via software hacks. Most current games utilize them now.
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>>381129380
Agreed. I went from constant 120fps the entire game to 25-30 fps for the entirety of the time spent in the reactor area.
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>>381128728
Artstyle is all most people including myself really care about.
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What is a Mega texture?
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>>381128728
it doesn't look bad either, not every game needs a frostbite engine tier graphics
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>>381129783
>Most current games utilize them now

No they don't. Neither Unreal 4, Unity, or CryEngine, the 3 most popular engines, use them in any sort of format.
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>>381129907
Instead of having different textures for different things, or tiling smaller textures, you have giant, gigabyte-size textures that plaster the whole map.
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>>381130053
Yes they do? They just don't call them megatextures.
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>>381128728
While other companies focus on graphics and neglect gameplay, Bethesda makes sure to neglect both
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The cutscenes looked like the last game but the actual gameplay looked a lot better, way better lighting.

Textures will be shit but not as bad as the Wolfenstein TNO because at least they're using IdTech 6 now.
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>>381128728

The real question is why would anyone pay for cultural marxist garbage? Only a retard would pay for some game featuring a hideous sassy negress with one of those disgusting huge brillo pads on her head.
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>>381130053
>No they don't. Neither Unreal 4, Unity, or CryEngine, the 3 most popular engines, use them in any sort of format.

UE4 bakes its lightmaps as one huge texture, so your statement is bullshit
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>>381129897
This. Muh graphics don't matter if 1) the game has a cohesive aesthetic and 2) it's fun to play.

It's a game, not a tech demo.
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>>381130227
Source. Because I develop in UE4 and Unity, and they don't.
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>>381130337
>new engine
>Frau Engel looks worse than in TNO

how did they even manage that?
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>>381130502
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/SparseTexture.html
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>>381130437
No it doesn't. You literally specify the lightmap resolution for each item separately.
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>>381130563
idk but everything else looks much better
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>>381131235
That looks worse than Bioshock Infinite.
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>pretend
But it does look good?
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>recently play wolfenstein tno
>graphics look like ass
>story is tired and lame
>characters suck
>gameplay is repetitive and boring
>bulletsponge enemies in lieu of decent ai
>level music is same 10-15 second tunes on auto-repeat
>save fergus and you get some useless 'spergy atheist cunt
>save probst and you get some useless #blacklivesmatter nog

Pic related, it's where I stopped watching the recent trailer.

"Just who da fuck is you, whyte boi?"
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>>381131361
Wrong, and the point is that it looks better than IdTech 5 Wolfenstein
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>>381131361
Yeah no, retard.
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>>381131235

2008 Xbox 360 called and asked for their Brown & Bloomâ„¢ Rubble Simulator back.

With every game they develop or publish, Bethesda shows how much they hate their idiot fanbase.
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>>381129897
Art style and the great German actors.

Might not matter to Burgers but I speak German and Frau Engel and her boy toy really made The new order shine.
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>>381129907
Have environments that aren't tiled/repeated textures. People like to meme that it is a bad thing but it is pretty impressive and opens up a lot in terms of environmental design.
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>>381131892
I don't care a ton about voice acting.
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>>381131892
I think if you aren't deaf and autistic you should be able to tell a good performance even if you cannot speak the language.
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>>381130437
you realize lightmaps have existed since quake right?
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>>381131762
>waaah why doesn't the sunset in a battlezone look like mario with rainbows
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>>381130836
yes and then it bakes them into one huge map, this the same as a tile based map for 2d game.

>When a lightmap is baked it's not just a single texture for each object. These get put into a texture atlas that stores multiple lightmaps for objects in the world. You can view these lightmap textures for each level by going to the World Settings and expanding the drop downs under the Lightmass section.

good god you're stupid!
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Why can Wolfstein show TRIGGER WARNING swastikas, but Call of Duty can't?
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>>381131914
Did Breath of the Wild use megatextures?
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So let's recap, the political left just desensitized people with 2 years of calling Trump and his supporters Literally Hitler, and nazis. The man took an electoral shit on democrats.

The new trailer has nothing but "whites are evil except the bearded numale trash who hang out with negros to overthrow whites."

It's already established that the fantasy army of leftist game consumers don't exist and that most people who purchase video games are still heterosexual white males.

All the status signaling cultural marxist garbage that the game industry shit out last year suffered catastrophic or underwhelming sales.

Generation Z is sickened by the millennial generation and are the antithesis of everything the kikes have forced in the culture wars.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3790614/They-don-t-like-drugs-gay-marriage-HATE-tattoos-Generation-Z-conservative-WW2.html

The new Wolfenstein is dead in the water and they don't even know it.

>mfw yet another snowflake game gets shit on in the free market
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>>381132289
because surprise surprise, Call of Duty is fucking gutter trash
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>>381128901
Doom has pop in on the weapons. If you load a new level and select different weapons, you will notice the textures loading on each weapon.
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>>381132685
Nice reverse-viral-marketing, shill.

Also,
>linking the daily mail
>expecting to be taken seriously

You've made it too obvious
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>>381132161
yes and mega textures have existed since 2d plattformers
nothing is new, just a shitty name to bring up hype
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idtech 5 is such a shitty engine, such a shame that evil within 2 will still use it..
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>>381132976
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>>381132976
That looks nice.
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>>381132813

I think I hear RINOs having a baseball game, be a good butthurt bernvictim and run along.
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>>381130437

>UE4 bakes its lightmaps as one huge texture

as every unreal engine and any engine that uses lightmaps, anon
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>>381133197
you've convinced me to pre-order.
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>>381132976
What's it like to play wolfenstein as a kraut?
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>>381132289
Call of duty just doesn't want to have to release a censored version - Wolfenstein the new order was censored in Europe, and this one will be too.
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>>381132976
>That shitty looking arm with the nice looking gun
>that lack of real time shadows

Well at least it has fog, I guess
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>>381131892
One of the reasons why people like The New Order and Old Blood was because of the those Tarantino-esque scripted moments, where the villain NPC acts like a total sociopath around you and makes you shit your pants.

I'm convinced MachineGames used Inglorious Basterds as a major source of inspiration.
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>>381133140
It looks like dogshit, the textures are super low res all the time except on the guns - see >>381133124
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>>381133529
>lol my system is fucking trash fuck this game!!!
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>>381133241
you're missing the point, UE3/UE4 both have lightmaps, but UE4 batches them togheter into one huge texture.
you talk like megatextures is something unique when UE4 does the exact same thing.
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>>381133334
I get to kill commies instead of nazis, so it's okay I guess
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This is going to be like Mafia 3. We're going to have months of /v/ laughing at this trainwreck, neo-/v/ libtards from /lgbt/ will be defending it and pretending that only racists have a problem with it, then the shit game gets released and nobody cares for it leaving it with laughable sales figures.

At that point, the same neo-/v/ libtards who defended it will mysteriously vanish and never talk about it again.

I only hope trashing mafia 3 last year helped at least one of their devs consider or actually commit suicide
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>>381130053
Far Cry 4, D44M, Battlefield 1, and some other AAA games all use virtual texturing
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>>381132976
What!? Fuck, seriously? Again with idTech5? Why not use 6? It's vastly better.
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DUDE 100 GIGS LMAO
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>>381133626
>play in 4k, everything maxed out
>I-ITS YOUR PCS FAULT!!!!

lol, so you never played an idtech 5 game?
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>>381132685
Are you this retarded?
>Whites are evil
This is an alternate timeline where the Nazis won WWII, lets recap some history, Hitler was out to purify Germany of races he felt were obsolete...so yes the now reining Nazi's would mostly be white and probably blonde with blue eyes. I am certainly no fan of liberal bullshit, but you going around saying this shit makes you just as bad as them. Go back to /pol/ or the_donald kid.
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>>381133687
What the fuck are you smoking?

>first game is very well liked and did well
>this one is more of the same and will do just as well

I love how you will bring up 'muh /pol/ boogieman' when that is the exact, only corner of the internet that is so asspained about this game
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>>381133687
>This is going to be like Mafia 3.
MachineGames =/= Hangar13
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>>381133827
I just played The Old Blood a few days ago and everything looked nice as hell.
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>>381130809
fucking ouch
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>>381130502
you're full of shit
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>>381133909

>people like Mafia 1 and 2, there's no way they'll hate what we're doing with mafia 3!
>people loved dx: human revolution, they'll love our new game dx: white guilt!

Ok.
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>>381133986
So you're blind, okay.
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>>381134270
>hurr durr my system is shit so ur blind lole xD
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>>381133882
he's just a reverse viral marketer, he's intentionally posting bait so people give him replies and thus the new wolfenstein game gets more board time and more attention.

pretty genius desu.
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>>381134108
Yeah I think that guy is going and actually reading up on Unity now. That isn't even a brand new feature it's been in for years, back in Unity 4 even.
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>>381134246
>people will now be really upset about killing Nazis
>when no one was the first time round and the only thing that's really changed is that people like me have become more easily triggered by everything

wew
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Another stellar Bethesda title and this time they're pandering to the lumberjack shirt with bowtie audience.

Let's spend release day together on /v/ enjoying cigars and brandy as the sales figures flop on yet another Jew marxist game.
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>>381134728
Again, I already told you I played it in 4k, everything maxed out.

It's not my fault IdTech 5 is the worst engine ever created.
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>>381135820
or your system is shit and you set the settings higher than your system can handle lmao
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>>381135805
another reverse-viral-marketer detected
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>>381135882
>1070
>shit

Okay kid
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>>381133986
>everything looked nice as hell.
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>>381136156
>1070
>not shit

>>381136298
Didn't look like ass in my game. Something's wrong with your system.
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>>381132685
Americans call everyone they don't like nazis. It is a bit strange for my European sensibilities.

Calling someone a nazi is a serious thing here and not to be done lightly.
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>>381136401
>i-its ur s-system!!
>meanwhile DOOM runs 4k/60fps maxed out
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>>381136595
>Americans call everyone they don't like nazis
Gonna need some proof, friendo.
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>>381128728
Looks fine to me dunno why you sperg out.
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>>381135085
never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence
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>>381136401
Why is the 1070 shit?
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>>381137279
>r/t_d user
>never been to /pol/
I don't habeeb it
/pol/ is 70% redditors now
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>>381128728
Clearly you haven't plated Doom.
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>>381137279
Fuck reddit seriously. They have never not been awful.
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>>381137519
Wrong, they stay in their /ptg/ safespace most of the time.
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>>381135219
>everyone is triggered about something
>can't offend anyone
>not even neo nazis

So in a few years who can we shoot in videogames for fuck sake?!
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>>381137279
>Posts that disrespect President Trump will be quickly removed
>spend 8+ years disrespecting Obama
>can't even take a little bit of actual criticism once they get someone in office

Holy shit
unreal
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>>381133651

I'm not him

also, we can't compare lightmaps with megatextures

that HUGE lightmap texture you are talking about in unreal engine 2 was at least 4096x4096 and loaded in his entirety on memory, a megatexture is (on idtech4) a 32,768×32,768 and the engine only loads what you are seeing at the moment (this is the joke of this tech)

I talk specifically about those two versions because I actually worked on them, I don't know what happens now
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>>381133525
the train level-scene-moment was tense as fuck
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>>381137279
>>381137580
>>381137804
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>>381137804
you can't brainwash people if you let criticism in
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>>381136401
>you need to have a $700 card for parts of this game to not inexplicably look like ass

lol?
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>>381138083
You have to go back to neogaf.
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>>381136401
>1070
>shit
>best price to performance is shit
>everything is shit
>your pants are full of shit
>you're a shithead
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>>381137804
They said Americans were ready for a black president. I knew better.

"It's gonna backfire". I was right.
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>>381138860
>>your pants are full of shit
>>you're a shithead
who are you quoting?
your mother?
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>>381139303
kys
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>>381139916
quoting your mom again?
i bang her ass lmao

also you forgot your meme arrow
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>>381140204
t. underage
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>>381140631
you're underage? you know that's a bannable offense, right?
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>>381132798
thats not pop in, thats loading. pop in refers to distances
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>>381136595
No, Tumblr and Twitter liberals do that. They come from plenty of places.
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>>381136595
>calling nazis nazis is a big deal
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>>381141735
In fucking Germany you'd be fucking careful about that shit, come on
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>>381141905
i dont live in cuckistan
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>>381132813
>if its not my SJW rag of choice you shouldn't be taken seriously
this is what SJWS actually believe
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>>381142230
That could mean a whole bunch of countries at this stage famaramalamadingdong
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>>381138209
>>381137804
>>381138102
>>381139238
>>381137580
>>381133882

fuck off anit white shills
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You know there are boards where discussions about video games don't inevitably descend into political mudslinging
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>>381142328
and im not in one of those
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>>381139238
why do you anti white cucks worship obama?
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>>381132685
>it's not okay to shoot nazis and take back the US
pic related my diggity dude.
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>>381142527
>>381142274
go back to r/the_donald.
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>>381143638
fuck off Bethesda shill, /v/ isn't your anti white safespace
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>>381143757
nice reverse-psychology-marketing, bethesda shill.
you can't fool me.
I'm pre-ordering your game no matter what.
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>>381143947
>pls buy my anti white propaganda
kill yourself, shill
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>>381144119
why would you tell yourself to kill yourself?

do you need help, anon? please call your local crisis hotline.
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>>381140204
>also you forgot your meme arrow
that wasn't me
also go back to plebbit
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>>381144342
if that wasn't you then why are you replying to me about a post i quoted?
checkmate.
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the animations in this game look too ass for me to care about its plot
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shut the fuck up OP
Doom looks and runs great
idtech 6 is huge improvement over 5
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>>381145686
and in north korea you get executed if your in a yoga video but you dont see me quaking in my boots

euros, wew
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